fargi the laws, i'm smoking myself stupid this weekend. that won't take much but whatever.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 12, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
It's amazing to me that no one has engineered an odor free strain of the stuff. Although admittedly that would take some of the enjoyment out of the smoking experience.
If it doesn't stink then it ain't no friggen' good.
so i'm surfing the channels last night looking for something to watch and i come by platoon and i come to the scene in the base bunker after barnes kills alias. the guys are talking about getting barnes while smoking up some pot and there's barnes, a murdering POS and barely able to fnd his mouth with the bottle of jack daniels cause he's trashed and he starts mocking these guys for smoking pot.
the scene kind of pointed out the contradicitve bullshtein of pot being illegal while alcohol isn't.
that and me realizing i need to score some stanky shtein.
I just got a new connection. It's good to have a few in case your main guy gets popped or runs dry for a spell.
yeah, always good to have a backup
From the Chicago Sun Times:
QuoteDecriminalizing pot would devastate cartels
Comments
March 30, 2010
BY STEVE HUNTLEY
One step forward: California voters will get a chance in November to decide if the state should legalize marijuana. Two steps backward: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently told authorities in Mexico that the United States was looking at anything that worked to fight the drug cartels killing Mexicans daily -- but responded "no" when asked if anything included legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana.
The California vote, however it turns out, constitutes a recognition that millions of Americans see lighting up a joint as no different than sipping a martini. Clinton's rejection of easing U.S. law on recreational weed use reflects a wide opposing belief that allowing marijuana use would violate moral norms and inflict onerous social costs on our society.
Sponsors of the California referendum attempt to sidestep the moral argument by framing the issue in dollars and cents. They assert taxing legal marijuana could bring $1.4 billion to California's bankrupt state coffers while cutting law enforcement and incarceration costs.
Passage of the Golden State measure would set up a state-federal conflict. Federal law trumps state law, but the Obama administration has wisely stopped federal prosecution of medical marijuana sales in the more than a dozen states that have approved them. But turning a blind eye to a defiant challenge on recreational use would be another matter.
A California yes vote could force the nation into a realistic conversation on drug prohibition. Casualties from the war on drugs keep piling up. Nowhere is this more true than in Mexico, where more than 18,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence in the last three years, including several recent victims with ties to the U.S. consulate in Juarez. In this country, FBI crime statistics list narcotics circumstances behind 3,052 murders over five years ending in 2008.
The deaths and millions of arrests, convictions and imprisonments stem from a trade supplying products Americans obviously want -- and No. 1 is marijuana. The National Institute of Drug Abuse found that more than 40 percent of high school seniors used marijuana at least once. Sports Illustrated reports that personnel in the National Football League see joint smoking "almost epidemic" among 2010 draft-eligible players. Weed has been depicted as the norm in books and movies for years, and the medical marijuana revolution in the states now has even timid broadcast television addressing the issue.
Legalizing marijuana wouldn't end the criminal drug trade and its violence. Addicts still would crave heroin, cocaine and other hard narcotics. But decriminalizing marijuana would be a body blow to drug cartels. Half the annual income for Mexico's violent drug smugglers comes from marijuana, one Mexican official told the Wall Street Journal last year. Imagine how many smugglers and street-corner reefer hustlers would be put out of business.
One recent advocate of considering legalization as part of a new approach to crime is John J. DiIulio Jr., who served as President George W. Bush's director of faith-based initiatives. Writing in the journal Democracy, DiIulio said that the impact of more than 800,000 marijuana-related arrests on crime rates last year was "likely close to zero." He argued there is "almost no scientific evidence showing that pot is more harmful to its users' health, more of a 'gateway drug' or more crime-causing in its effects than alcohol or other legal narcotic or mind-altering substances."
Legalization backers go further, pointing to Canadian studies suggesting health-care costs are higher for tobacco or alcohol users and that police disruption of drug-trafficking gangs contributes to street violence by causing gang power struggles.
The prospect of reducing violence, undermining gangs, freeing law enforcement to concentrate on serious crimes and more revenues for hard-pressed governments -- all are reasons to end the "reefer madness" in our laws.
http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs38/38661/index.htm
http://www.justice.gov/ndic/pubs38/38661/marijuana.htm#Marijuana
Nerdy stuff from the gubament about chronic
also how about this article
QuoteMexico bristles as some U.S. states relax marijuana laws
BY TIM JOHNSON
MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS
MEXICO CITY -- As more U.S. states permit medical marijuana, and California considers legalizing cannabis sales to adults, Mexico is voicing irritation at the gap between drug laws north and south of the border and saying it undercuts the battle against Mexico's violent drug cartels.
Mexico Secretary of the Interior Fernando Gomez Mont said last week the U.S. medical marijuana trend was "worrisome" and "complicates in a grave way" efforts to resolve Mexico's soaring drug-related violence.
The issue came to the fore earlier this week when Secretary of State Hillary Clinton led a high-level U.S. delegation to Mexico to discuss counter-drug strategies.
Clinton said law enforcement authorities are keeping close tabs on medical marijuana dispensaries in the 14 states where such sales are permitted. She added that she doesn't believe that the rising number of states that allow the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes was a major factor in marijuana flows into the U.S. from Mexico.
"We have not changed our laws, and we do not see this as a major contributor to the continuing flow of marijuana, the vast, vast majority of which is used for recreational purposes," Clinton said.
More states are permitting medical marijuana use, and New York may become the 15th to do so. California, which pioneered medical marijuana use in 1996, is moving even faster, setting a November vote on whether to legalize personal marijuana possession and allow regulated sales of marijuana to those over age 21. If approved, the move would be the first of its kind in the U.S.
A Mexican historian and commentator, Lorenzo Meyer Cossio, said the government of President Felipe Calderon "feels offended" by the growing trend of U.S. states to allow medical marijuana, or perhaps go further as California may do. Mexican laws against marijuana and narcotics remain tough, the result of U.S. pressure dating back more than half a century, he said.
Meyer said the California initiative to legalize marijuana sales, if approved, would ripple to Mexico, underscoring the difference in legal treatment and giving impetus to decriminalization efforts.
"It is inevitable that if this occurs in California, a neighboring state that is so important to us, that there will be repercussions here," Meyer said.
Calderon, the head of a center-right party, deployed 50,000 soldiers to the border days after coming to office in late 2006 to combat the cartels, which derive huge profits from marijuana as well as cocaine, heroin and methamphetamines.
More Mexicans than ever are dying as drug cartels battle for turf along the busiest border in the world. In Ciudad Juarez, Mexico's most dangerous city, more than 530 people have been slain already this year, including three people connected to the U.S. consulate earlier this month.
Mexican marijuana production is soaring, according to a report issued Thursday by the Justice Department's National Drug Intelligence Center.
Estimated Mexican marijuana production climbed to 21,500 metric tons in 2008 from 10,100 metric tons in 2005, the report said, adding that as the military has turned its attention from illicit crop eradication to combating violence from the cartels, marijuana eradication efforts have fallen by nearly half.
Even advocates of the decriminalization of marijuana in the U.S. said they empathize with Mexican leaders, who are deploying troops in a fierce battle with well-armed drug cartels at the urging of Washington.
"They are caught in the middle of realities of U.S. consumer demands and American political intransigence," said Stephen Gutwillig, the California director of the Drug Policy Alliance, an advocacy group for alternatives to the drug war.
Gutwillig said he thinks the trend toward allowing medical marijuana in U.S. states, and even the outright decriminalization of marijuana, would eventually weaken the Mexican drug cartels.
"Any sort of authorized regulated market for marijuana in the United States cannot be good for the bottom line of criminal cartels," Gutwillig said.
So the mexican government is clearly not happy, since they pretty much acknowledge that they'll be losing money
That NJ bust happened about 5 minutes from where I grew up. Luckily, I don't get my shtein anywhere near there or I'd be in for some long nights.
wait, you smoke ? :evil
I can't remember.
you holdout ! :-D
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that shtein is screaming hallucinogen
Holy shtein my mouth literally just started watering.
i think i am high just from looking at it.
way too pretty to smoke
thats probably the kind of high that makes you not want to leave "home base" with your buddies.....laughing in hysterics, then 2 seconds later paranoid as shtein to open the door and leave because there's people out there.
i think that's the grape chronic. i had that once before a flyers game. just three hits. we went out for smoke breaks between the 1st and 2nd periods and i didn't need another hit. incredible buzz.
Quote from: smeags on March 30, 2010, 04:58:26 PM
i think that's the grape chronic. i had that once before a flyers game. just three hits. we went out for smoke breaks between the 1st and 2nd periods and i didn't remember the 3rd. incredible buzz.
Don't get me wrong, I could smoke some pocket lint and get high right now (in fact I think I did exactly that at the Giants game in 08, and I was so cooked that I turned down an offer to blaze with Die-Hard *shame* and then couldn't find my seat in the stadium).
I haven't been a regular in three years or so. But that doesn't mean I can't appreciate a thing of beauty like that. Hot damn that's sexy.
seabiscuit has been trying to light his computer screen for 10 minutes now
Quote from: rjs246 on March 30, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Don't get me wrong, I could smoke some pocket lint and get high right now (in fact I think I did exactly that at the Giants game in 08, and I was so cooked that I turned down an offer to blaze with Die-Hard *shame* and then couldn't find my seat in the stadium).
I haven't been a regular in three years or so. But that doesn't mean I can't appreciate a thing of beauty like that. Hot damn that's sexy.
was that home or away ?
Quote from: reese125 on March 30, 2010, 05:02:03 PM
seabiscuit has been trying to light his computer screen for 10 minutes now
why is my screen on fire
theres some places that ship the seeds for those bad boys, SWIM has been looking at them for a while.
Quote from: smeags on March 30, 2010, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 30, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Don't get me wrong, I could smoke some pocket lint and get high right now (in fact I think I did exactly that at the Giants game in 08, and I was so cooked that I turned down an offer to blaze with Die-Hard *shame* and then couldn't find my seat in the stadium).
I haven't been a regular in three years or so. But that doesn't mean I can't appreciate a thing of beauty like that. Hot damn that's sexy.
was that home or away ?
Home. At IGY's tailgate.
think i was there. was it a zesty rainy day ?
Yes sir it was both zesty and rainy. I choked on some dirt weed like a little girl and pulled a Kaiser Soze and got the F out of the parking lot. Then I sat next to two of the dumbest people I've ever met. Good times.
You get a $5 starbucks card for using Kaiser Soze. Not from me though.
that was garbage day. DH and i were they only two from our crew to go that day. so we went to IGY's spot. that dirt weed may have been mine. sigh
HIPPOS
Whoopsies.
suprisingly it was the pot heads that failed 1st.
Quote from: smeags on March 30, 2010, 06:12:44 PM
that was garbage day. DH and i were they only two from our crew to go that day. so we went to IGY's spot. that dirt weed may have been mine. sigh
Nah it was my boy scotty's. And let me tell you, it was garbage. Did the trick though.
That purple ish is the sexiest thing I ever saw.
I wish my HD with the "Best Buds" folder didnt crash. Some good photos to share. :(
Quote from: rjs246 on March 30, 2010, 07:35:04 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 30, 2010, 06:12:44 PM
that was garbage day. DH and i were they only two from our crew to go that day. so we went to IGY's spot. that dirt weed may have been mine. sigh
Nah it was my boy scotty's. And let me tell you, it was garbage. Did the trick though.
you've been by ours a couple times. we have to hide from the two coppers or tell them to take a piss run. so sad it has to be that way.
anywho, i didn't attend to sidetrack this thread out of the no hippos but that pic was too damn fine not to post. :-o
nothing wrong with showing picture examples in serious discussions smeags
very true.
now this a bikini.
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I'll see your bikini and raise you:
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/wub
Quote from: paco on March 30, 2010, 09:36:32 PM
I'll see your bikini and raise you:
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/wub
man i love me some Lexi Belle
Marijuana is an illegal substance and you guys should not be promoting it here. Whats wrong with you? Damn potheads.
more HIPPOS means less prying eyes
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 31, 2010, 07:45:23 AM
Quote from: paco on March 30, 2010, 09:36:32 PM
I'll see your bikini and raise you:
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/wub
man i love me some Lexi Belle
Who is that? That is a bad bitch.
Quote from: smeags on March 30, 2010, 04:43:25 PM
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:o That is some amazing looking shtein!
I have some stuff right now that smells so strong you literally don't want to take it anywhere outside your residence. If you keep it in a bag and not a something sealed the odor follows you everywhere.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 31, 2010, 06:35:46 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 31, 2010, 07:45:23 AM
Quote from: paco on March 30, 2010, 09:36:32 PM
I'll see your bikini and raise you:
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/wub
man i love me some Lexi Belle
Who is that? That is a bad bitch.
Porn star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexi_Belle)
As per Wiki..
Belle had sex for the first time with her boyfriend on her seventeenth birthday. Both virgins, they attempted to use Saran Wrap as a contraceptive since they did not have a condom.
Quote from: Die-Hard on April 01, 2010, 01:20:36 PM
As per Wiki..
Belle had sex for the first time with her boyfriend on her seventeenth birthday. Both virgins, they attempted to use Saran Wrap as a contraceptive since they did not have a condom.
That's pretty funny considering now she probably takes it raw from complete strangers
Also she was filmed the first time she ever tasted wang. Classy.
Quote
Belle is a self-professed Star Wars geek with her favorite film of the series being Attack of the Clones
I think I'm in love
Quote from: Yeti on March 31, 2010, 06:31:30 PM
Marijuana is an illegal substance and you guys should not be promoting it here. Whats wrong with you? Damn potheads.
That's really funny coming from you Yeti (phffft)
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 31, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 30, 2010, 04:43:25 PM
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:o That is some amazing looking shtein!
I have some stuff right now that smells so strong you literally don't want to take it anywhere outside your residence. If you keep it in a bag and not a something sealed the odor follows you everywhere.
Sorry, but what the hell is that? It looks like something my cat horked up.
It really cracks me up to think there are people who will crumble that up, light it on fire, inhale the fumes... and then claim it doesn't do any damage to the body.
That thing looks like a Peep that was stuck under the couch for a year, and some people want to smoke it? :-D
ever hear of a vaporizer? How about the studies that there are no carcinogens, any damage you get is from butane
Quote from: Dalton on April 01, 2010, 02:07:55 PM
Quote
Belle is a self-professed Star Wars geek with her favorite film of the series being Attack of the Clones
I think I'm in love
perfect woman
Quote from: charlie on April 02, 2010, 10:12:40 AM
It really cracks me up to think there are people who will crumble that up, light it on fire, inhale the fumes... and then claim it doesn't do any damage to the body.
That thing looks like a Peep that was stuck under the couch for a year, and some people want to smoke it? :-D
do you just make shtein up ? seriously, who the hell EVER claims it doesn't do any damage to the body ?
Quote from: smeags on April 02, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: charlie on April 02, 2010, 10:12:40 AM
It really cracks me up to think there are people who will crumble that up, light it on fire, inhale the fumes... and then claim it doesn't do any damage to the body.
That thing looks like a Peep that was stuck under the couch for a year, and some people want to smoke it? :-D
do you just make shtein up ? seriously, who the hell EVER claims it doesn't do any damage to the body ?
When people argue about pot vs cigs... I didn't say it was here.. but i've heard the whole "natural and pure" argument. Personally I don't care either way.
Jeez, you sure are sensitive to the topic.
Quote from: charlie on April 02, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
Quote from: smeags on April 02, 2010, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: charlie on April 02, 2010, 10:12:40 AM
It really cracks me up to think there are people who will crumble that up, light it on fire, inhale the fumes... and then claim it doesn't do any damage to the body.
That thing looks like a Peep that was stuck under the couch for a year, and some people want to smoke it? :-D
do you just make shtein up ? seriously, who the hell EVER claims it doesn't do any damage to the body ?
When people argue about pot vs cigs... I didn't say it was here.. but i've heard the whole "natural and pure" argument. Personally I don't care either way.
Jeez, you sure are sensitive to the topic.
umm it's not called being sensitive it's about calling shenanighans on a comment. the
natural and pure discussion has nothing to do with not doing any damage to the body. it's about the fact that it's not processed like tobacco is.
Once you legalize it, it will be.
I was just parroting what I hear, I personally don't care about the effects one way or the other.
when i grow it out back, it i'll add addictive properties?
Quote from: charlie on April 02, 2010, 10:31:27 AM
Once you legalize it, it will be.
there's zero need to process it in the sense of needing to use additives or perservitives unless it's being done for other reasons.
Seriously, is that Mary Jane? I didn't know it was purple and fuzzy.
i didnt either. but i don't smoke it so if it doesn't look like something from dre or snoop's album art, i wouldn't recognize it. to me, that just looks like a really nasty head of cauliflower.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/20100405_Philadelphia_to_ease_marijuana_penalty.html?submit=Vote&oid=1&mr=1&89898592=Y&cid=8500281&pid=89898592
QuotePhiladelphia to ease marijuana penalty
By Craig R. McCoy, Nancy Phillips, and Dylan Purcell
Inquirer Staff Writers
The city's new district attorney and the state Supreme Court are moving to all but decriminalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana for personal use in an effort to unclog Philadelphia's crowded court dockets.
Under a policy to take effect later this month, prosecutors will charge such cases as summary offenses rather than as misdemeanors. People arrested with up to 30 grams of the drug - slightly more than an ounce - may have to pay a fine but face no risk of a criminal record.
"We have to be smart on crime," said District Attorney Seth Williams, who took office in January. "We can't declare a war on drugs by going after the kid who's smoking a joint on 55th Street. We have to go after the large traffickers."
The shift is a major move in a reform agenda being hammered out in an unusual partnership between Williams and two members of the state Supreme Court, Chief Justice Ronald D. Castille and Justice Seamus P. McCaffery, each of whom has a long background in criminal justice.
The goal is to sweep about 3,000 small-time marijuana cases annually out of the main court system, freeing prosecutors and judges to devote time to more serious crimes. The diverted cases amount to about 5 percent of the caseload in criminal court.
Police have been briefed on the policy shift, but appear less than enthusiastic about it.
"We're not going stop locking people up," Lt. Frank Vanore, a police spokesman, said Friday. He said marijuana possession remained illegal.
"We're going to stop people for it. . . . Our officers are trained to do that," Vanore said. "Whether or not they make it through the charging process, that's up to the D.A. We can't control that. Until they legalize it, we're not going to stop."
Some key aspects of the change remain unresolved.
Williams' top aides are still researching whether they can simply convert all the small marijuana arrests into summary charges of disorderly conduct. The shift might require a change in state law or in a city ordinance, his advisers say.
The new approach could generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines for the Philadelphia courts. While the amount has not been formally set, fines for minor drug possession would be $200 for first-time offenders and $300 for others.
"We are not looking at it as a moneymaker, but we could use those funds to focus on other efficiencies," said Castille, who was Philadelphia's district attorney from 1986 to 1991.
McCaffery, a homicide-detective-turned-lawyer, has talked of using some of the new cash to pay consultants to study further ways to reform the court system.
Castille called the new policy "appropriate" for a system loaded up with a total of 60,000 fresh cases a year, including the arrests of about 5,500 alleged heroin, cocaine, and methamphetamine sellers.
Of marijuana possession, the chief justice said, "It's a minor crime when you're faced with major drug crimes." Taking those cases out of the city's main courtrooms, he said, "unclogs the system."
The new approach was endorsed by Chris Goldstein, a leader of the Philadelphia chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML). His group has been quietly lobbying prosecutors and top Philadelphia narcotics police for change.
"The marijuana consumers of Philadelphia welcome this," Goldstein said.
McCaffery, appointed by Castille to oversee the ongoing shake-up of Philadelphia's criminal justice system, said the shift would help the courts focus on more serious cases.
"This will free up a lot of time in the courtroom," he said. "The fewer de minimis cases, the more time the judge and the prosecutor are going to have on other cases."
The new policy on marijuana is part of a wave of changes under review in response to The Inquirer's investigative report on the criminal justice system, "Justice: Delayed, Dismissed, Denied," in December.
The newspaper's reporting portrayed the Philadelphia system as in crisis, clogged with cases, bogged down by delay, and harsh on victims and witnesses. The paper found that Philadelphia defendants escaped conviction on all charges in nearly two-thirds of violent-crime cases - one of the lowest conviction rates in the nation.
Williams, working with the two justices and others, is also moving forward with plans to streamline preliminary hearings and overhaul the charging unit, rejecting prosecution in some cases and kicking others back to detectives for more investigation.
He and top aides - First Assistant District Attorney Joseph McGettigan and Deputy District Attorney Ed McCann - have been giving misdemeanor marijuana cases special attention. The maximum penalty for possession for personal use is only 30 days in jail, and defendants rarely serve time.
Under Williams' predecessor, Lynne M. Abraham, the district attorney for 18 years, the office prosecuted about 3,000 such cases a year.
The prosecutions often tied up judges, assistant district attorneys, police, and defense lawyers - not to mention defendants - in Municipal Court for multiple court listings.
Prosecutors would agree to withdraw the charge if a first-time offender completed community service. Offenders with a criminal history could end up with a formal misdemeanor conviction.
Under the new policy, people charged with possession for personal use will still be arrested, handcuffed, searched, detained, and fingerprinted. Then, regardless of their criminal history, their case will be heard by a special late-afternoon summary court in Courtroom 408 at the Criminal Justice Center. This "quality of life" court handles offenses such as public drinking and disorderly conduct.
Defendants determined to fight the charges could still demand a full trial, but few are expected to do so.
Arrests for small amounts of marijuana aside, police still make thousands of drug arrests yearly in Philadelphia - 18,000 last year for drug-related crimes of all sorts, including charges involving possession and dealing.
Of these, they arrested about 2,000 suspects as alleged marijuana dealers and about 2,500 people for possession for larger amounts of marijuana, over 30 grams.
The handling of those more serious cases will not change, prosecutors say.
Police and prosecutors in other cities and states have taken similar steps toward decriminalization or something approaching it. Several dozen cities have enacted "lowest law enforcement priority" ordinances, stipulating that police pursue such cases as a last resort.
Voters in Seattle approved a ballot question mandating this change in 2003. Since then, arrests for possessing small amounts of marijuana have fallen by three-quarters. In 2005, Denver voters approved an ordinance legalizing possession of less than an ounce, or 28 grams. San Francisco passed a similar law in 2006.
Several states, too, have taken a softer stance on marijuana possession. For example, Massachusetts decriminalized marijuana in 2008, making it a civil offense and imposing a $100 fine for possession of less than an ounce.
According to the Department of Justice's latest report on drug crime, 28 percent of adults ages 18 to 25 who were surveyed admitted using marijuana at least once within the previous year. For the rest of the adult population, 7 percent admitted using the drug during the same period.
McCaffery has considerable experience with the use of special courts operating under the umbrella of Municipal Court. When he was the court's administrative judge, he pioneered "Eagles Court" for unruly football fans and spurred the collection of fines for "quality of life" summary offenses.
During McCaffery's final 16 months on the Philadelphia bench, the courts levied $2.3 million in fines. Since he left, the imposition of those fines has diminished, costing the city millions, he said.
Under the new initiative, McCaffery said, the court will resume imposing those charges even when defendants fail to show up for summary court.
According to McCaffery, the court will be able to go after as much as $5.5 million in fees from 2008 and 2009 in this fashion. Any new marijuana-related charges will be on top of that.
Goldstein, of NORML, said his group had been lobbying for relaxed treatment of marijuana cases for more than a year, meeting with members of the District Attorney's Office, Mayor Nutter's staff, and police brass.
"This is a very progressive thing to do on the part of the city," Goldstein said of the new policy. "I couldn't be happier about this."
He said the change also would redress a racial pattern apparent in Philadelphia drug-possession arrests. More than 80 percent typically have been of African Americans, Philadelphia police data show.
"All the data from the federal government indicates that blacks and whites consume marijuana at near-equal rates," Goldstein said, yet "the pattern of arrests is that over 75 percent are black men."
According to him, the situation is the same in New York City, where research indicated it was due to more intensive police patrol activity in African American neighborhoods.
Goldstein said he was troubled that Philadelphia police would be permitted to keep arresting people for marijuana possession.
"It is completely absurd," he said. "It's harsh. For minor marijuana possession, it's very harsh treatment."
Police elsewhere merely issue people a ticket and send them on their way, he said.
Leading members of the defense bar also endorsed the new marijuana-prosecution policy.
Joseph C. Santaguida said that "it's a good idea" to steer these minor drug cases to a diversionary program.
Brian Zeiger, another criminal-defense lawyer, said he saw the move as positive both for taxpayers and defendants.
"The city gets money, and the city doesn't have to pay [court] overtime to the cops. It's a guaranteed win for clients. It takes all the risk out of it."
Quote from: charlie on April 02, 2010, 10:31:27 AM
Once you legalize it, it will be.
I was just parroting what I hear, I personally don't care about the effects one way or the other.
Yes you do scooter.
Denver had their cannabis convention this weekend. The news said it may eclipse the previous largest convention in the city: The Beer Festival.
Damn I love this town.
D.C. Council approves medical marijuana
The D.C. Council unanimously approved a bill Tuesday to allow chronically ill patients to receive a doctor's prescription to use marijuana and buy it from a city-sanctioned distribution center.
Under the bill, which passed without debate, a patient who suffers from HIV, glaucoma, cancer or a "chronic and lasting disease" may receive a doctor's recommendation to possess up to 2 ounces of marijuana in a 30-day period.
The patient would not be allowed to grow their own marijuana, but between five and eight pot distribution centers would be established in the city.
Those distribution centers would receive marijuana from privately run cultivation centers, where up to 95 marijuana plants could be grown at a given time. The distribution and cultivation centers, which could not be located within 300 feet of a school or preschool, would be operated by private or nonprofit organizations and businesses that would be licensed by the city.
The council will have to vote on it a second time next month. But it will likely be at least several months before the city's medical marijuana program gets off the ground.
--Tim Craig
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/dc/dc-council-approves-medical-ma.html
Nice. Bringing it to congress' front door. This should cause a stir...
holla. and on 420 too.
I'm not in DC so it doesn't much matter, but would Alcoholism be considered a "chronic and lasting disease"
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everytime i hear someone bring up the "gateway" argument i want to shove a gernade down their throat considering they get their info based on a question that is put forth to be biased because the question is "what was the first "illegal" drug you tried.
yeah, forget nicotine or alcohol because that would wipe out your assinine claim.
I prefer "stepping stone" to "gateway" as well
they both conjure images of adventurers working their way through a dark luscious forest, to the beautiful elf city
don't they?
No.
okay tough guy, pretend you don't love it.
I'm no tough guy but I don't even know what you were trying to say there.
wukk =====
vonmer to visit the beslf ciwy with me
Parenthood is making you senile. Or you're having a stroke. Either way, I'm into it.
The only drug weed is a gateway to is more weed. That's it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/KpnwUHF0A4o this commercial does everything they can to say its for chronic. "Let it take you to new Heights" my buddy just got one and its ridiculous. Best part is you can keep whats cashed, it doesnt turn to ash, and use it for cooking to get any leftovers