2-yr deal
you beat me by 17 seconds you bastich.
The least you could do is post a link you lazy farg.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=20454
no time for facts, it's all about the timing.
...so.....who is he and is he any good? :paranoid
The new FS?
Nice blown out knee signing.
The Eagles never sign bad free agents.
top 5 defense.
the eagles LOVE the second wave of free agency
My greatest fear has been realized.
Sarcasm. :-\
Quote from: hbionic on March 10, 2010, 02:42:56 PM
...so.....who is he and is he any good? :paranoid
former 1st-rd pick CB from Michigan, blew out his knees
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 10, 2010, 02:49:54 PM
the eagles LOVE the second wave of free agency
this is more like the ripple after the wave
yeah its still early for a second wave but this year is an exception because the first wave really was just two players
Yeah this is a pretty weak crop of FAs, this move is hard to get excited about either way. No real risk.
Unless they don't get a decent FS with functioning knees, to start when Marlin falters.
This move ensures that we'll be sitting here this time next year wondering how the Eagles are gonna "fix" the FS position. It also ensures that Jackson will be a FA next year once the Eagles give him 8 games to show this is a bad move.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 10, 2010, 06:37:24 PM
No real risk.
Wrong. Very wrong. This guy will be starting at FS going into the season. Then he'll blow out his knee...again. And then they'll be stuck with Demps back there...again.
Seeing how this team has run shop over the years, I actually see this as a potentially high-risk move.
How is this not Stacy Andrews Round II?
this move pumps me up to send my ticket money in.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 10, 2010, 11:56:51 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 10, 2010, 06:37:24 PM
No real risk.
Wrong. Very wrong. This guy will be starting at FS going into the season. Then he'll blow out his knee...again. And then they'll be stuck with Demps back there...again.
Seeing how this team has run shop over the years, I actually see this as a potentially high-risk move.
the only way this isnt a risk is if this is one part of a master plan to move up and draft eric berry
Well they aren't getting Eric Berry and not likely to get Earl Thomas either. I am pretty sure they will add some other safety help in the draft. My point is for what is out there, this isn't a big risk.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 11, 2010, 10:06:18 AM
My point is for what is out there, this isn't a big risk.
And here is where my problem lies. The team completely farged up the Dawkins situation last year, never found a replacement for him throughout the 09 season, and now they plan on moving a CB with 2 blown knees to FS and people are fine with it because "it's whats out there".
It's only out there though because the front office put themselves in this position. It didn't have to be this way.
the worst smelling thing about it is that they didnt make a serious run at rolle and instead sat around and watched him sign with a division rival and then 10 minutes later signed a guy with no knees...im not saying they 100% should have signed rolle as the competition in this years free agency was thick...but the way it all went down looks embarrassingly bad for the eagles
with whats out there ? rolle was out there too. ryan clark was as well. and they were free safties.
For the record, I think Rolle is overrated for what he is, and the Giants gave him way too much money, but not only would he have been a better option than Jackson, he had been a vocal on-field guy for the Cards for years..something that was sorely missed last year.
The fact that Thomas (who I have a mancrush on) and Mays (who I'm not crazy about) will both be gone by #24 means to me that the FO feels they did what they needed to do in addressing the FS this offseason - and considering how this deal went down strikingly similar to the way the Sean Jones deal did last year, it makes me want to go on a rampage.
overrated and overpaid by the giants ? but like you said he would've fit here very nicely.
but of course like that bearded vagface on WIP always says this front office knows more than we do. ::)
Quote from: smeags on March 11, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
with whats out there ? rolle was out there too. ryan clark was as well. and they were free safties.
I meant currently, those guys aren't on the market. As far as Ryan Clark you saw how good he was last year when he didn't have Polamalu next to him. I hope they draft one early there are some solid guys that will probably be 2nd or 3rd round picks.
I agree on the Dawkins thing, but not much can be done about that now.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 11, 2010, 12:04:53 PM
I agree on the Dawkins thing, but not much can be done about that now.
Fine, but I refuse to just throw my hands up and accept whoever this FO tells me is a "good fit" at the position, when we all know that the FS position is one that should have been set - at the least, throughout the 2010 season.
People (mainly non-Eagles fans) generally feel that Eagles fans reaction to Dawks departure is already a dead horse, but I think its pretty obvious that it was a step backward that they are still paying for.
DEAD HORSE ALERT!
Throw that shtein on the grill
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on March 11, 2010, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: smeags on March 11, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
with whats out there ? rolle was out there too. ryan clark was as well. and they were free safties.
I meant currently, those guys aren't on the market. As far as Ryan Clark you saw how good he was last year when he didn't have Polamalu next to him. I hope they draft one early there are some solid guys that will probably be 2nd or 3rd round picks.
I agree on the Dawkins thing, but not much can be done about that now.
the point is they were out there and while i dont ryan clark is an elite safety i def put him above jackson.
igy is so cute when he gets all diva. :-D
ryan clark is 31...he is of no use to the eagles right now and when they really do need him he will be done
And he has some condition where apparantly he can drop dead at any time.
He's a dead horse?
regardless of his age or drop dead condition he's better than a 26yr jackson who has trashed both his knees already.
All of this dead horse talk is making me horny.
well we will see this season if the eagles made the right choice. personally i dont have faith in this decision.
rjs - remind me never to go to the race track with you.
rjs confused the whole 'beating a dead horse' with eating out a dead horse. Easy mistake to make.
jackson will have minimal impact on the season...he will either win the starting job stay healthy and play at an unacceptable level or he will get hurt and his replacement will come in and play at an unacceptable level
either way the plus minus effect it has on the teams wins is negligble
i see a .500 season for 2010. i may be high balling it too.
the thing with the eagles is that all their moves are lateral...yeah its nice to sign weaver and avant but those dont improve the team...and other than mack who are the young players that have substantial room for improvement
where are the obvious upgrades going to be?
you normally would count an injured player coming back like bradley...but because of the nature of his injury you cant count on him
the only place i could see improving greatly is the oline if the big kid plays and plays to his potential....and thats a huge if
lol a huge if
there is a 0% chance you get what youd want out of him. youre lucky to get 1 quality game out of him.
well i'm actually looking forward to seeing if mccoy can live up to his potential. that is going to depend on the o-line's play as well though.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 11, 2010, 01:03:14 PM
the thing with the eagles is that all their moves are lateral...yeah its nice to sign weaver and avant but those dont improve the team...and other than mack who are the young players that have substantial room for improvement
where are the obvious upgrades going to be?
There won't be any unless it's in the draft.
I think they'll be active in the post draft waves that come along. I can see them waiting til roster cuts to address a need or two.
Thats entirely possible also. Really there wasn't much to be had in free agency this year, not that the Eagles would have been active if there had been.
Quote from: shorebird on March 14, 2010, 08:01:57 PM
Thats entirely possible also. Really there wasn't much to be had in free agency this year, not that the Eagles would have been active if there had been.
Are you talking about the Eagles or the Ravens? Do you even know?
Talking about Eagles this time. As active as the Ravens were you should now that. There wasn't much to be had for what the Eagles needed, linebacker, d-back, o-lineman.
so wait the main free agency market sucked this year but somehow the eagles are going to make waves in a secondary market?
also keep in mind that roster cuts are going to be minimal this year..and ones that do happen have for the most part already taken place...the june first cut date that used to be semi meaningful does not exist anymore
really what you see with the eagles right now is what youre getting next year barring two possibilites
1. they trade donovan
2. they make a power move in the first round and get up to a spot where they can take a player who will help them this year
there's plenty of good restricted free agents available. if there was one that would help they would make that move. it's not like reid is afraid of making a trade, especially now that the one guy who could stop him is in cleveland running that franchise into the ground.
i still question the idea that the eagles will give up picks for a RFA. it would have to be a big, big name and i'm not convinced edwards would be one. so who is out there that would look to be worth giving draft picks up on ? ???
they gave up a #1 pick for jason peters just last year.
they'll do it. whether they would do it for a defensive end, linebacker or other position player they don't consider "important".
i know they have in the past i am talking "this year" ... last year was for an OT - doing it for the positions they don't deem important makes it even more of a stretch IMO. i wouldn't mind being wrong if it does help but i just don't see it happening.
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 15, 2010, 08:54:57 AM
2. they make a power move in the first round and get up to a spot where they can take a player who will help them this year
I think that this year with how deep this draft is you can get guys that will help right away in the first 3 rounds. Though the Eagles will probably draft a white LB from an ivy league school in the 3rd.
i dont 100% discount them getting a player in the draft that will significantly help them this year...and when i say help i mean in terms of wins and losses...but the chances of that are minimal...and thats not an eagles thing it goes for most teams picking in the later stages of the first round...its just not realistic to expect another pimp type copntributor to come along again
i think the eagles are what they are as we sit here today and i dont think much will change btwn now and the opener
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 15, 2010, 02:50:15 PM
i dont 100% discount them getting a player in the draft that will significantly help them this year...and when i say help i mean in terms of wins and losses...but the chances of that are minimal...and thats not an eagles thing it goes for most teams picking in the later stages of the first round...its just not realistic to expect another pimp type copntributor to come along again
i think the eagles are what they are as we sit here today and i dont think much will change btwn now and the opener
Why not? It took long enough, maybe now he's on a roll.
no i mean you cant expect the eagles to draft a guy in the second round this year that will contribute the way pimp did in his rookie year
between pimp, maclin and mccoy, i'd say that the eagles have pretty much maxed out their rookie productivity for quite some time. if they do manage to draft a guy who makes significant contributions from the get go, then i may have to re-evaluate reid's drafting ability.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 15, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
between pimp, maclin and mccoy, i'd say that the eagles have pretty much maxed out their rookie productivity for quite some time. if they do manage to draft a guy who makes significant contributions from the get go, then i may have to re-evaluate reid's drafting ability.
Didn't you get the memo? Howie made all those picks! :-D
lol. yeah, i don't believe that for a second. but, if that's actually true, then i'll change my opinion on howie and give him props for making what could turn out to be, 3 of the best draft picks in franchise history.
Quote from: Die-Hard on March 10, 2010, 11:56:51 PMThis guy will be starting at FS going into June. Then he'll blow out his knee...again. And then they'll be stuck with Demps back there...again.
is this your clever way of saying that Jackson just blew out his knee?
It was already being talked about in the "laugh at" topic....just wanted to bump this one
Quote from: Diomedes on June 01, 2010, 02:42:35 PM
is this your clever way of saying that Jackson just blew out his knee?
its already being discussed in the other thread....
Jackson leaves practice with injury
June 1st, 2010, Author: Geoff Mosher, Categories: Uncategorized
By GEOFF MOSHER
Twitter: @geoffmosher
Eagles safety Marlin Jackson left practice early after sustaining an apparent knee injury, one that could be major given his track record of knee injuries and surgeries. No information is available yet from the Eagles, but Jackson stayed down on the turf for several seconds at the NovaCare Complex bubble after a passing play in which he was involved on the defense and needed help getting back to his feet.
Team trainers helped Jackson limp off the turf. Jackson appeared to be favoring his right knee. After making it to the sideline, Jackson angrily punched the bubble's wall and appeared to be sobbing loudly. After exiting the bubble with some of the medical staff, Jackson was taken by cart to the complex for treatment. He could be seen with his hands over his eyes as the cart drove away from the bubble and toward the complex.
Jackson, a first-round pick who spent his first seasons with the Colts, suffered a season-ending ACL tear in October after playing just four games. He also had an ACL tear in 2008 and missed nine games. He's played just 11 games over the past two years.
More information to come.
awesome
And its June 1...I'm a g'damn visionary.
jersey 1
everyone else 0
Injured RIGHT ANKLE according to Bowen. Not knee.
He was just pronounced dead.
wrong thread
good riddance?
right thread
shame, there was such promise for this guy.
:paranoid
Whoever suggested Marlin blew his knee out was clearly fishing.
The haters just don't get it: Marlin won't give up without a fight.
I blame roy halladay--he's been sitting down Marlins a lot recently.
boom.
I could keep this going but I don't want to bait anyone further.
Even if the injury isn't serious, he'll be on a very short hook once he gets in there.
Marlins are fish.
Wait, did I do that right?
You are Cod's Gift to Comedy, rjs.
I'm a farging comic savant compared to this abortion. Fact.
Why so crabby?
He doesn't like the cut of your jib?
Maybe he's just shellfish?
pssst, Dio. it's NOT good to be skilled at puns.
heretic
Torn Achilles.
So the Eagles signed a guy with an injury issue and he ended up getting injured in an unrelated area with shells & shorts on.
I can't believe it.
Thank God we have Macho Harris and that Demps guy. I hear Geoff Pope is making a push as well!
how much money will they save not having to pay his performance bonuses? thats the key here.
Expected.
Great job, Howie.
In all fairness, no one touted him as a huge get or the answer to anything. And they did draft Nate Allen nice and early. And Jackson wasn't playing corner anyway, which is where the real problems are. And his name is Marlin, which is pretty awful.
Quote from: hbionic on March 11, 2010, 12:46:39 PM
rjs confused the whole 'beating a dead horse' with eating out a dead horse. Easy mistake to make.
the best thing about jackson tearing up his achillies is i got to re-read this post by chuggie.
an all-time classic!
Quote from: FastFreddie on June 01, 2010, 07:19:14 PM
In all fairness, no one touted him as a huge get or the answer to anything. And they did draft Nate Allen nice and early. And Jackson wasn't playing corner anyway, which is where the real problems are. And his name is Marlin, which is pretty awful.
seriously who gives a flying farg about marlin jackson...the only that matters this year is the development of kevin cobb and the relationship building he does with his skill johnsons
the defense is a lost cause it doesnt matter who is playing safety...in fact if anything this is good news as it will allow us to see more of nate allen and allow us to see him early and often
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 01, 2010, 08:43:07 PM
the only that matters this year is the development of kevin cobb and the relationship building he does with his skill johnsons
Now there's an image to give me nightmares.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 01, 2010, 05:15:14 PM
Torn Achilles.
Marlin can get some good advice from Elton Brand about getting his career back on path after Achilles rehab.
A marlin is a fish.
Quote from: Mad-Lad on June 01, 2010, 08:56:29 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on June 01, 2010, 05:15:14 PM
Torn Achilles.
Marlin can get some good advice from Elton Brand about getting his career back on path after Achilles rehab.
Brand was a beast coming back from that injury, and he's still half as good as he was from what i've seen. Enjoy all the Eagle gear you got. I liked Nate Allen and preferred to have him win out in competition. Instead he just has to play better than Demps and Harris. I want to see Allen just go out there and know his shtein. Take control of the job without a doubt early. I was fan of the pick even if they had traded back a few to get him. Jackson just has some bad 'Buckwalter" luck going on.
If marlin comes back "half as good as he was" then he'll be a fantastic 3rd stringer in two years
This proved to be a great signing. They only did it to make everyone think there was no way they would swoop in and draft a safety early. This enabled them to get Nate Allen without anyone leapfrogging them in the draft.
Now that they have Allen, Marlin was just collateral damage and was expendable.
There are good reasons you're not in charge of anything important.
haha
Quote from: King Cole on June 02, 2010, 04:48:17 AM
This proved to be a great signing. They only did it to make everyone think there was no way they would swoop in and draft a safety early. This enabled them to get Nate Allen without anyone leapfrogging them in the draft.
Now that they have Allen, Marlin was just collateral damage and was expendable.
Sarcasm rules.
Quote from: King Cole on June 02, 2010, 04:48:17 AM
This proved to be a great signing. They only did it to make everyone think there was no way they would swoop in and draft a safety early. This enabled them to get Nate Allen without anyone leapfrogging them in the draft.
Now that they have Allen, Marlin was just collateral damage and was expendable.
Good point. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles FO tore his Achilles on purpose.
If a Jackson on the team had to tear his achilles, this is the one I'd pick.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 02, 2010, 08:49:20 AM
Quote from: King Cole on June 02, 2010, 04:48:17 AM
This proved to be a great signing. They only did it to make everyone think there was no way they would swoop in and draft a safety early. This enabled them to get Nate Allen without anyone leapfrogging them in the draft.
Now that they have Allen, Marlin was just collateral damage and was expendable.
Good point. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles FO tore his Achilles on purpose.
They did the same thing to Pinkston.