Pimp was voted in as a WR and KOR; first time in league history that's been done.
Jason Peters - starter
Killa - reserve
Asante Samuel - starter
Leonard Weaver - starter
Dawk voted in as a starter for the AFC
and Akers is the kicker
Woodson and DRC were taken instead of Sheldon, and Davis and Witten were taken instead of Celek...
nice, now lets pray that this means that all Birds players will be resting the week before the SB, before their big game :evil :evil :evil
good info for andy reid since he will probably wind up coaching this game....again
how the hell does witten get in the pro-bowl with 1 TD? colossal joke
peters? really??
lolz.
He deserved it.
Who was better in the NFC?
Flozell? Hell, he has played better than McKinnie too.
Wow, Sheldon got hosed.
Goddamn right he got hosed, PG. That's why the Pro Bowl is such a complete laugh riot. A guy like Sheldon gets passed over yet a turnstile penalty flag magnet like Peters gets to start?
I figured Samuel and Weaver would make it. I figured Jackson had a 50/50 shot. Peters making it is hilarious.
I've thought peters has been playing pretty well.
Peters has been ok at times, awful at other times, and downright embarrassing at other times.
At no point in this season was he anywhere close to ProBowl worthy.
If you watch Peters when he is on his game, he is dominant he just blows guys up. Problem is the penalties and the sacks he gives up. I agree with Phreak in the NFC there aren't that many good LTs.
Sheldon not making it is a travesty, I have been critical of this guy throughout his career, but this year he has been unreal.
Dumerville blew by Peters like he wasn't there yesterday to sack McNabb.
No doubt that he gets beat for sacks and he definitely needs to improve that, but like we said there aren't that many good LTs in the NFC.
I haven't seen much of DRC this season, but Woodson is having a sick season and I can't really argue with putting him ahead of Sheldon.
Woodson could very well be the Defensive Play of the Year.
woodson is a solid choice and can't really hate on him getting picked over sheldon. whitten is a joke for this year's team....purely a case of name recognition. vernon davis is having a hell of a year and probably should have gotten the nod over everyone else. celek probably should be 2nd in te voting.
pimp going is legit at both positions. peters is kind of surprising, but as stated left tackle in the nfc has almost no depth.
would liked to have seen bunkley and/or patterson get some love from the voters based on how well they clog up the middle. but no one gives a shtein about interior lineman so i won't waste much time on them.
Have you guys been watching Peters closely? Turnstile? Flagged a lot?
SO he got beaten by a guy with 16 sacks...kill him!
Alternates:
McNabb (first)
Brown (second)
Celek (second)
Mikell (third)
Manneans (fourth)
Bunkley (fourth)
peters has been flagged seven times this year which is not pro bowl material
but he has only given up a total of 13 sacks and qb pressures combined which is good
hes not nearly as bad as some people say but hes also not a probowler
not that the probowl means jack shtein
AP all nfl team is the only one that matters
Peters has been slightly less mediocre than the rest of the LT's in the NFC.
OMGPROBOWLER!
The Pro-bowl sucks. Who cares, other than the players who have contract incentives.
And now that it's the week before the SB, it will be even less well attended than usual.
It won't matter, none of the Eagles will be there anyway. :evil
Quote from: Rome on December 30, 2009, 08:11:01 AM
Peters has been slightly less mediocre than the rest of the LT's in the NFC.
OMGPROBOWLER!
Peters getting into the Pro Bowl is a very similar reward to how your wife ended up with you, you were the best of what was around. You cranky old farg. :-D
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 29, 2009, 10:22:27 PM
Woodson could very well be the Defensive Play of the Year.
agree...and I would put Darren Sharper right next to him
Quote from: Rome on December 30, 2009, 08:11:01 AM
Peters has been slightly less mediocre than the rest of the LT's in the NFC.
OMGPROBOWLER!
so he was slightly better than all other LTs in the NFC yet he shouldn't make the pro bowl?
Peters getting it is blah, Sheldon got robbed again.
There are quite a number of Sportswriters who think Sheldon was robbed as well. that he should be there more than Asante.
i wouldnt go that far, Asante is a beast, dude cant tackle outside of one good pop a game, but he's an INT machine. Sheldon got hands this year, and has been playing with a torn hammy, and it hasnt knocked his game.
assantes sixth sense in being able to intercept ball not thrown at his man is uncanny...but hes not as good when covering his own man and sheldon has had a better all around year
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 30, 2009, 10:41:15 AM
i wouldnt go that far, Asante is a beast, dude cant tackle outside of one good pop a game, but he's an INT machine. Sheldon got hands this year, and has been playing with a torn hammy, and it hasnt knocked his game.
Asante has 3 more picks than Brown does....and Brown has outplayed him in every other aspect of the game. Those 3 picks are not enough to make him better than Brown. Samuel has also blown more coverages than I care to think about that have directly led to big TDs for the other team.
You are biased so just stop happy scrappy lover. Asante is the best or at least top 3 on reading plays. Sheldon is the whole package
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2009, 11:47:15 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 30, 2009, 10:41:15 AM
i wouldnt go that far, Asante is a beast, dude cant tackle outside of one good pop a game, but he's an INT machine. Sheldon got hands this year, and has been playing with a torn hammy, and it hasnt knocked his game.
Asante has 3 more picks than Brown does....and Brown has outplayed him in every other aspect of the game. Those 3 picks are not enough to make him better than Brown. Samuel has also blown more coverages than I care to think about that have directly led to big TDs for the other team.
he has four more ints
and lets not get carried away and spew unwarranted hate on assante because of your stalk crush on sheldon
i personally think sheldon has had a better year but nine ints is incredible...no ones had more than 10 in like 30 years
i have no problem with nine picks getting you in over ANYONE
9 ints IS incredible. But if he could play any other aspect of the game better, it wouldn't be such an issue for me.
This national writer sums it up well (others have agreed on other sites)
Quote• Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown: Teammate Asante Samuel got the start at one cornerback spot, largely because he's tied for the league lead with nine interceptions. But Brown has had the better season. He is tied for fifth with five interceptions and has returned a pick and a fumble for touchdowns. More impressively, he played through a strained hamstring injury and was there for the Eagles at a point when their season was teetering. Samuel's picks are nice, but the stats don't show how many times he jumps routes and is beaten on a double move. Or how he sometimes struggles to make tackles. Brown is a more complete player and has had the better all-around season.
Brown sure seemed to be there at pivotal moments, making a big stop or blowing up a play. He certainly should be a first teamer.
Funny how after significant contract dust-ups Sheldon went the high road and Sheppard, well, he just kinda drifted to irrelevance. I wonder what the FO will do given the year Brown's had.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2009, 11:58:06 AM
• Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown: Teammate Asante Samuel got the start at one cornerback spot, largely because he's tied for the league lead with nine interceptions. But Brown has had the better season. He is tied for fifth with five interceptions and has returned a pick and a fumble for touchdowns. More impressively, he played through a strained hamstring injury and was there for the Eagles at a point when their season was teetering. Samuel's picks are nice, but the stats don't show how many times he jumps routes and is beaten on a double move. Or how he sometimes struggles to make tackles. Brown is a more complete player and has had the better all-around season.
:yay :yay :yay
Quote from: JackStraw on December 30, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
Funny how after significant contract dust-ups Sheldon went the high road and Sheppard, well, he just kinda drifted to irrelevance. I wonder what the FO will do given the year Brown's had.
they dont make reactionary moves...one season is not going to make them all of a sudden see the light
hes one year older....if they didnt cake him off last year dont expect it this year...altho it wouldnt suprise if they throw him a small westbrook type bone
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 30, 2009, 11:58:06 AM
9 ints IS incredible. But if he could play any other aspect of the game better, it wouldn't be such an issue for me.
This national writer sums it up well (others have agreed on other sites)
Quote• Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown: Teammate Asante Samuel got the start at one cornerback spot, largely because he's tied for the league lead with nine interceptions. But Brown has had the better season. He is tied for fifth with five interceptions and has returned a pick and a fumble for touchdowns. More impressively, he played through a strained hamstring injury and was there for the Eagles at a point when their season was teetering. Samuel's picks are nice, but the stats don't show how many times he jumps routes and is beaten on a double move. Or how he sometimes struggles to make tackles. Brown is a more complete player and has had the better all-around season.
ummm i was driving the sheldon bus all that last spring summer defending him against everyone here who was trying to say he didnt deserve extra money and basically saying all the same stuff in that article...all im saying is you dont need to rip assante to big up sheldon
Given a choice to keep Brown or Samuel, I'd give the edge to Brown. Brown also gets burned occasionally, like all CBs, but not as much, and he doesn't do dumb shtein like Samuel taking a penalty spiking the ball after his int. against Denver.
Samuel is a double edged sword, he has a fantastic break on the ball but often misses tackles because of it. He's just going too fast and receivers side step him and blow by. He needs to change his technique there as well as run support tackling and wrapping up instead of just Lito-hitting.
eagles actually have the best of both worlds outside...a playmaking turnover machine on one side and a safety who plays corner at a pro bowl level on the other
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 30, 2009, 01:51:49 PM
eagles actually have the best of both worlds outside...a playmaking turnover machine on one side and a safety who plays corner at a pro bowl level on the other
This....
Nice problem to have. Asante can tackle, but he insists on the big hit when healthy, and he either connects/whiffs/or hurts himself. He's gotta do some work with Joselio to learn how to wrap people up. Joselio does a great job with leg tackles for a little guy.
I know its in everyone's nature to argue who is better but it would be much better for everyone if you all just died. They are two different types of players, both of which are invaluable to a defense that needs them. Probowl schmobowl.
well the jerk store just called, and they're runnin out of YOU!
Typos are my farging nemesis!
youre better than that dammit
i think RJS stopped drinking, he's been slipping lately, and not arguing
Shut your mouth. I just found other things to do while I'm drinking. Like go to work.
Looks like Sheldon might be at that Pro Bowl anyway. The Eagles suck + DRC was carted off with a knee injury
he proved he belonged there today with his stellar performance
hes had a great season. if by great season you mean gimpy and burned.
he's going to come off the field today 3 shades blacker.
nm
A couple of updates, one of which was mentioned already:
-- Dorenbos was added as the NFC's "need" player
-- McNabb will replace whichever QB makes the Super Bowl between Brees and Favre
-- DRC was replaced by Antoine Winfield, but if the Vikings make the Super Bowl and he can't play either, Sheldon goes
All Eagles should be ashamed of taking that invitation to the pro-bowl, the lot of them. Ashamed!
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 20, 2010, 05:58:10 PM
A couple of updates, one of which was mentioned already:
-- Dorenbos was added as the NFC's "need" player
-- McNabb will replace whichever QB makes the Super Bowl between Brees and Favre
-- DRC was replaced by Antoine Winfield, but if the Vikings make the Super Bowl and he can't play either, Sheldon goes
and to top it off, rj's favorite player vince young was just added to the roster. the pro-bowl is cute.
Quote from: reese125 on January 21, 2010, 01:11:58 PM
and to top it off, rj's favorite player vince young was just added to the roster. the pro-bowl is cute.
From Peter King's column:
Quote1. The continuing downward spiral of the Pro Bowl. It's almost like it's a punishment to have to play in it. If Peyton Manning wins Sunday, that will mean that eight of the 16 quarterbacks in the AFC this year can call themselves 2009 Pro Bowlers. The three voted in were Manning, Tom Brady, Philip Rivers. Brady and Rivers bowed out because of injury, as did the first alternate, Ben Roethlisberger, though none of them missed any time because of their injuries late in the season. Then came Matt Schaub; he'll play. Then Carson Palmer; he won't because of thumb surgery on his non-throwing hand. Then Vince Young, who started all of 10 games this year. As I said on Twitter the other day, I bet Bruce Gradkowski's next.
Young was the 4th alternate so he was deemed the seventh best QB in his conference. Hahahaha. He's so awful and he now has 2 pro-bowls under his belt. What a farging joke.
shtein, in their minds if I cant take my family on a vacation to Hawaii Im out.
Poor guys, can't afford to take their families to Hawaii.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 22, 2010, 03:46:17 PM
Poor guys, can't afford to take their families to Hawaii.
How true! :-D
I disliked the Pro Bowl when it was here. Well other than the pageantry surrounding it as the sate went all out and it was like a huge rock concert at the game and usually all those selected played but other than that it was a glorified touch football game.
Now I just hate it. This thing is reverting back to the 70's when Mike Boryla of the 7-7 1974 Eagles played QB for the NFC. I believe he was like the 6th alternate.
Honestly, who wants to go to Hawaii, its not like its beautiful, and full of hot asians
i can't help but wonder if the nfl has finally come to the conclusion that the pro bowl is (and has been) dead in the water for quite some time now and rather than admit it publicly, they are putting it in a place where it will fail miserably and leave them no choice but to finally pull the plug.
i can't see how the league could ever come to the conclusion that playing it before the super bowl would be a good idea, since typically the 2 super bowl teams are going to account for a decent portion of the entire pro bowl roster and those players aren't going too busy prepping for the sb to worry about some stupid scrimmage. especially one they could get hurt in.
Mikell was named to the Pro Bowl :-D
holy hell, how many safeties bailed out before they got down to him? more importantly, how much longer until we get to macho harris?
Kyle Vanden Bosch was just named, too. I think he had 2 sacks and 44 tackles this year. Crash and burn.
pro bowl fail
I'm happy to report that I was just named as a tackle to the pro bowl.
the pro bowl could use an injection of munsons speed
Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2010, 10:19:44 AM
Kyle Vanden Bosch was just named, too. I think he had 2 sacks and 44 tackles this year. Crash and burn.
remember the good ol' days when everyone here wanted him?
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2010, 10:46:38 AM
the pro bowl could use an injection of munsons sp
The dry heaves started up right about there.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 25, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2010, 10:19:44 AM
Kyle Vanden Bosch was just named, too. I think he had 2 sacks and 44 tackles this year. Crash and burn.
remember the good ol' days when everyone here wanted him?
To be fair, he was kind of good in the good ol' days. I think he's going to retire, isn't he in his 30s?
congrats to donovan for making it :yay
a well deserved reward after another terrific season :D
Quote from: KDS on January 25, 2010, 01:25:40 PM
congrats to donovan for making it :yay
a well deserved reward after another "outstanding season" :D
at least get it right if youre gonna rip him
i wasnt even thinking about that, but thanks
is wilma gonna stay in the hotel with him in miami? is this a rhetorical question?
yeah probably a connecting door though
Mikell making it is a joke.
Whiff on tackles?
Drop crucial INTs?
Make the Pro-Bowl!
I think I'm going to watch. I believe I'll be more entertained by this Pop Warner game than any other Pro Bowl.
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 25, 2010, 10:39:22 AM
I'm happy to report that I was just named as a tackle to the pro bowl.
See, if it was in Hawaii you could have stayed with me.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 25, 2010, 05:30:13 PM
I think I'm going to watch. I believe I'll be more entertained by this Pop Warner game than any other Pro Bowl.
since they are inviting players who were like 6th, 7th and 8th in the voting, they might as well just call it the "getting to know obscure players around the league" bowl. just scrub the pro bowl and instead, make up 2 teams with random dudes buried on everyone's depth chart. players who play more than X amount of downs during the year are not eligible.
i think i'd actually prefer to watch that instead of a pro bowl. at least with the scrubs, they'd be out there working hard trying to impress the chick working the nacho stand.
Ugh, the Pro Bowl was enough of a joke before they moved it, now it's just silly.
One question I have is: if a player bows out due to injury, or in this year's case playing in the SB, does it still count as a PB selection on their record? I.E., elected to X consecutive Pro Bowls?
Maybe they should call it the UFL Pro Bowl... all these guys would be stars there.
Quote from: NC_Eagle on January 25, 2010, 06:52:30 PM
One question I have is: if a player bows out due to injury, or in this year's case playing in the SB, does it still count as a PB selection on their record? I.E., elected to X consecutive Pro Bowls?
yes, because they were voted to the pro bowl. at the same time, quinton mikell can now use this upcoming pro bowl appearance in future contract negotiations as well to try and squeeze out a few more dollars even though he didn't originally get voted in, and was only sent as a replacement player.
If they'd just get rid of the damn game all together, the honor would be less of a sham. It's getting to the point where in contract negotiations, it should count against you if you didn't make the PB, even if you replaced your team's starting punter in week 11.
Quote from: Don Ho on January 25, 2010, 05:50:57 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 25, 2010, 10:39:22 AM
I'm happy to report that I was just named as a tackle to the pro bowl.
See, if it was in Hawaii you could have stayed with me.
Oops, looks like I gotta change my plane tickets to MIA. Thanks though, I'll take you up on it when the NFL puts a team in Honolulu.
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 25, 2010, 08:17:06 PM
If they'd just get rid of the damn game all together, the honor would be less of a sham. It's getting to the point where in contract negotiations, it should count against you if you didn't make the PB, even if you replaced your team's starting punter in week 11.
it has no bearing whatsoever in contract negotiations....you think fans know its a sham but players agents and front office personel dont
what you might see it effect tho is the bonuses and clauses in future contracts....you may not see players getting a 100k bonus for making the probowl anymore
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2010, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 25, 2010, 08:17:06 PM
If they'd just get rid of the damn game all together, the honor would be less of a sham. It's getting to the point where in contract negotiations, it should count against you if you didn't make the PB, even if you replaced your team's starting punter in week 11.
it has no bearing whatsoever in contract negotiations....you think fans know its a sham but players agents and front office personel dont
what you might see it effect tho is the bonuses and clauses in future contracts....you may not see players getting a 100k bonus for making the probowl anymore
you just contradicted yourself
just a little bit.
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 25, 2010, 08:31:56 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2010, 08:27:51 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on January 25, 2010, 08:17:06 PM
If they'd just get rid of the damn game all together, the honor would be less of a sham. It's getting to the point where in contract negotiations, it should count against you if you didn't make the PB, even if you replaced your team's starting punter in week 11.
it has no bearing whatsoever in contract negotiations....you think fans know its a sham but players agents and front office personel dont
what you might see it effect tho is the bonuses and clauses in future contracts....you may not see players getting a 100k bonus for making the probowl anymore
you just contradicted yourself
clauses and bonus have no bearing whatsoever in how good a player is...nor does the probowl...thus neither have a bearing in contract negotiations
the worst player in the league can get a meaningless clause in their contract and the best player in the league can get them
years and upfront money is what its about and the pro bowl doesnt effect that in the least and never really has had meaning outside of public posturing...thus the probowl has no effect in new contract negotiations...again not that it ever has
for the most part, i agree. but where i disagree is if it's a relatively unknown player who made the pro bowl during a contract year. granted, the production is what got him there in the first place, and that's what is going to get the most money in contract negotiations, but just having "pro bowl" on your resume is probably worth a few extra bucks in contract negotiations. it might not be worth a lot, but i think it's worth a little something.
and i'm sure that it's a card that any player/agent will try and play. whether or not it gets them anywhere is another story.
Can Shawn Andrews make the Pro Bowl?
That's a good question. I would say it's between him and Stacy.
Keibler?
All anyone needs to know about the Pro Bowl is that VInce Young has now made two of them.
Also, I would rather watch two and a half hours of footage of Stacey Keibler's ass than this abortion of a game.
That's hardly fair. That would be like asking an expecting mother if she would like her child to be born healthy or if she wants to raise a circus freak.
Cant believe my eyes that I just saw David friggin Gerrard made the Pro Bowl. Smile Roger.
Bubby Brister also selected.
QuoteSheldon Brown turns down Pro Bowl
As the many replacements were announced for the Pro Bowl rosters, one name that did not appear is Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown.
Brown was named a second alternate when the rosters were initially announced and the opportunity was there for him to make his Pro Bowl debut. However, Brown turned down an invitation, citing personal reasons, the Eagles told the Daily News' Les Bowen.
At the time, Brown said he hadn't been counting on making it, though he'd rate this season among the top two or three of his 8-year career. He said he can't fault the role of stats in the process, even if they don't tell the whole story.
"It will kind of mess with you, but it's something you can't control," Brown said then.
The Eagles will be well-represented Sunday in Miami with nine players, after Donovan McNabb and Quintin Mikell were added yesterday.
He should have declined based on those Dallas games alone.
31 of the original Pro Bowlers have bowed out. Granted the Colts and Saints can't represent but this is becoming more comical by the hour.
So there are nearly enough guys saying "no thanks" to fill out an NFL roster. Awesome.
half the nfl players live in miami and the other half visit regularly so there is absolutely zero incentive to play in the game this year...it was on life support anyway but taking it out of hawaii was final death blow for the game
im pretty the nfl makes $ of the game so they will never, ever get rid of it
i'm pretty sure the nfl will lose money on it this year.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 26, 2010, 05:49:30 PM
He should have declined based on those Dallas games alone.
He shoudl have declined the Dallas games since he was playing on one leg.
cue journey "open arms"
so McNabb got picked off by Dawkins and Samuel got burned for a TD. Good times
mcnabb was so bad from the little i saw...in a game where people werent rushing and the qb's literally had upwards of ten seconds to throw he was throwing unbeliveable garbage...i didnt see the dawk pick but the pick he threw that got returned for a touchdown was an embarrassing display of quarterbacking...and of course after every brutal throw he made he tried to giggle it up with everyone....luckily all his teammates tried to shy away from him
the little dance move he did on his TD to desean (which was all desean) was sickening. not quite air guitar bad but pretty close.
thank god i missed that
lol his last 3 performances ever an as eagle were epically bad
Low Throw McBlow 2010 Probowl To Do List...
High Skyscraper pass? Check.
Low Wormburner pass? Check.
Interception returned for a TD? Check.
Overthrow and throw behind wide open recievers? Check.
Inability to run an offense down the field in a non-blitzing Pro Bowl game? Check.
Stupid little dances? Check.
Embarassing Eagles personnel, players, and fans? Check.
Same stupid shtein-eating grin during moments of failure? Check.
LTM was in true form tonight; the only thing he didn't do was spew on the field....
Blowing off questions about trades? Check.
Quote from: GeneralZOD on January 31, 2010, 11:34:56 PM
Low Throw McBlow 2010 Probowl To Do List...
High Skyscraper pass? Check.
Low Wormburner pass? Check.
Interception returned for a TD? Check.
Overthrow and throw behind wide open recievers? Check.
Inability to run an offense down the field in a non-blitzing Pro Bowl game? Check.
Stupid little dances? Check.
Embarassing Eagles personnel, players, and fans? Check.
Same stupid shtein-eating grin during moments of failure? Check.
LTM was in true form tonight; the only thing he didn't do was spew on the field....
POTY
3/10, 78 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
I just looked at the PBP and it's way worse than those stats indicate, too.
McNabbulous
But, but, but Chuckie & Jaws kept calling him a CEO!
i didnt watch a minute of the PB, but my coworker said that Jaws said Mcnabb is done as an eagle and the city is done with him?
I wasn't paying attention to most of what those imbeciles were saying but I don't recall hearing that.
We have three more years of Reid so it wouldn't matter if Joe Montana was the QB in his prime. We're all doomed.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 01, 2010, 09:31:56 AM
i didnt watch a minute of the PB, but my coworker said that Jaws said Mcnabb is done as an eagle and the city is done with him?
I've been surprised to hear some people in the media who have a good handle on things talk seriously about 5 being traded. A couple of days ago Kirwin and Ryan were talking about possible destinations that could make sense.
I'd still be surprised if McNabb were traded but it's the first time I remember hearing this from somewhat credible commentators. I've also seen some people here tell about eskin, who is an Eagles mouthpiece, turning on McNabb too, so who knows?
not saying they arent credible but those guys dont know anything that we dont know
banner inc are the only people that know if mcnabb is going to be back and they dont talk to anyone
i doubt he'll go anywhere next year although i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they keep him on a short leash just so they can run kolb out there and evaluate him more.
what a farging waste of a season that would be.
either lock him up long term of get him the farg out of here. i'm fine with both options although obviously i'd prefer the latter.
Trade him to the sixers with Pimp in 2 years. It's a basketball town!
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 01, 2010, 06:35:21 PM
not saying they arent credible but those guys dont know anything that we dont know
banner inc are the only people that know if mcnabb is going to be back and they dont talk to anyone
Maybe in this case with the Eagles, or maybe not. But Kirwin, who was a gm, knows a lot of FO people and sometimes gets the inside scoop. He also has a much better understanding of these things than anyone here.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 01, 2010, 06:40:09 PM
i doubt he'll go anywhere next year although i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they keep him on a short leash just so they can run kolb out there and evaluate him more.
If you could find a team willing to give a first and a third this year, he'd be gone. I'd start Vick, draft a qb with the extra pick and let Kolb fight it out with the pick for the no. 2 spot. If Vick sucks, bring in Kolb or the pick. You gotta' start somewere, gotta' do something.
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 01, 2010, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 01, 2010, 06:35:21 PM
not saying they arent credible but those guys dont know anything that we dont know
banner inc are the only people that know if mcnabb is going to be back and they dont talk to anyone
Maybe in this case with the Eagles, or maybe not. But Kirwin, who was a gm, knows a lot of FO people and sometimes gets the inside scoop. He also has a much better understanding of these things than anyone here.
While I agree with you Holic, I listen to these 2 religiously every day. I think they do more of pumping the other teams fan base up when they call in to give them a glimmer of hope. Theres been huge speculation since seasons end that Mcnabb is going to the Vikes because of Childress and heads will continue to talk about until told otherwise. Pat and Tim are no different.
Quote from: reese125 on February 01, 2010, 09:37:31 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 01, 2010, 08:18:32 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 01, 2010, 06:35:21 PM
not saying they arent credible but those guys dont know anything that we dont know
banner inc are the only people that know if mcnabb is going to be back and they dont talk to anyone
Maybe in this case with the Eagles, or maybe not. But Kirwin, who was a gm, knows a lot of FO people and sometimes gets the inside scoop. He also has a much better understanding of these things than anyone here.
While I agree with you Holic, I listen to these 2 religiously every day. I think they do more of pumping the other teams fan base up when they call in to give them a glimmer of hope. Theres been huge speculation since seasons end that Mcnabb is going to the Vikes because of Childress and heads will continue to talk about until told otherwise. Pat and Tim are no different.
But my point is, I haven't heard them talk in any serious way in the past when there were at least as many rumors or as much speculation about McNabb leaving.