Please?
its not the coordinator...well it might be...but you dont know that until you get some talent on the unit...the personnel is atrocious
True that... you can't turn shtein into sugar.
moises...foku
Injuries cost them today on defense. The d is nice when completely healthy.
How about some real defensive talent? Or is that too much to ask?
I'd prefer a coach.
Maybe Reid had Akers playing on his fantasy team this weekend?
They need a legit safety, SAM linebacker, and another DE. Other than that this defense is quite good. Bunkley, Patterson, and Cole are studs, Witherspoon is a legit LB, Jordan has been really good this season and they have a nice CB tandem with Samuel and Brown.
The Chargers have a really good and a hot offense combined with a bunch of defensive injuries spells trouble.
Still, you need to make a stop, but this defense has talent. Can't deny that.
Complaining about the coach on defense is ridiculous right now. They were playing with 50% backups in there today on defense.
I'd like to see a better defensive philosophy, at least.
youre forgetting how mikey thinks sports is such a big giant game of risk
Quote from: King Cole on November 15, 2009, 07:41:27 PM
They need a legit safety, SAM linebacker, and another DE. Other than that this defense is quite good. Bunkley, Patterson, and Cole are studs, Witherspoon is a legit LB, Jordan has been really good this season and they have a nice CB tandem with Samuel and Brown.
The Chargers have a really good and a hot offense combined with a bunch of defensive injuries spells trouble.
Still, you need to make a stop, but this defense has talent. Can't deny that.
Hahaha - you're retarded.
Two players on that defense have talent... Cole & Samuel. Then there's Sheldon Brown who has a bit of talent and a great deal of technique.
The rest is mediocre garbage at best.
Quote from: Rome on November 15, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 15, 2009, 07:41:27 PM
They need a legit safety, SAM linebacker, and another DE. Other than that this defense is quite good. Bunkley, Patterson, and Cole are studs, Witherspoon is a legit LB, Jordan has been really good this season and they have a nice CB tandem with Samuel and Brown.
The Chargers have a really good and a hot offense combined with a bunch of defensive injuries spells trouble.
Still, you need to make a stop, but this defense has talent. Can't deny that.
Hahaha - you're retarded.
Two players on that defense have talent... Cole & Samuel. Then there's Sheldon Brown who has a bit of talent and a great deal of technique.
The rest is mediocre garbage at best.
exactly...this is what ive been saying forever
but cole has to go with them being real good because he predicted something like theyd be a top 3 defense before the season started
Quote from: Rome on November 15, 2009, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 15, 2009, 07:41:27 PM
They need a legit safety, SAM linebacker, and another DE. Other than that this defense is quite good. Bunkley, Patterson, and Cole are studs, Witherspoon is a legit LB, Jordan has been really good this season and they have a nice CB tandem with Samuel and Brown.
The Chargers have a really good and a hot offense combined with a bunch of defensive injuries spells trouble.
Still, you need to make a stop, but this defense has talent. Can't deny that.
Hahaha - you're retarded.
Two players on that defense have talent... Cole & Samuel. Then there's Sheldon Brown who has a bit of talent and a great deal of technique.
The rest is mediocre garbage at best.
Clueless post. Bunkley and Patterson are stud DTs and one of the best pair in football. They are having pro bowl seasons. What do you define as talent then? Just athletic ability? Sheldon Brown is a more complete corner than Samuel. You don't think Witherspoon is talented?
Just a typical clueless post and trying to be different.
The Eagles have been very good against the run.
We KNOW that the linebackers are horrible.
So either Bunkley and Patterson are pretty damn good or you're a retard who thinks the opposing team running backs are just tripping over themselves.
lol @ bunkley and patterson being "studs"...they are good dt's nothing less nothing more and are certainly not playmakers
Definitely not playmakers. Nasty against the run? Yeah they are. Their pass rush is relatively nonexistant, but they are definitely one of the best DT pairs in the NFL.
lol
Bunkley gets a lot of push on the interior.
But I think we all know how good Igy and Rome's talent evaluation is. Just look at the Celek topic for reference.
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 15, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
Their pass rush is relatively nonexistant, but they are definitely one of the best DT pairs in the NFL.
So they can't rush the passer but they're one of the best DT pairs in the NFL?
I see.
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 15, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
Definitely not playmakers. Nasty against the run? Yeah they are. Their pass rush is relatively nonexistant, but they are definitely one of the best DT pairs in the NFL.
no they arent nasty against anything...again they are fine tackles...but to call them studs or nasty is just retarded...and the linebackers suck but their "strength" is actually against the run...where they completely blow is in coverage and getting to the quarterback
Quote from: Rome on November 15, 2009, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 15, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
Their pass rush is relatively nonexistant, but they are definitely one of the best DT pairs in the NFL.
So they can't rush the passer but they're one of the best DT pairs in the NFL?
I see.
It would be great if they were great run stopping and pass rushing DT's, but you can count how many of them there are on one hand. So yea, they are one of the best combos.
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 15, 2009, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: Rome on November 15, 2009, 08:52:07 PM
Quote from: jihadist monk on November 15, 2009, 08:49:58 PM
Their pass rush is relatively nonexistant, but they are definitely one of the best DT pairs in the NFL.
So they can't rush the passer but they're one of the best DT pairs in the NFL?
I see.
It would be great if they were great run stopping and pass rushing DT's, but you can count how many of them there are on one hand. So yea, they are one of the best combos.
we you arent studs or nasty if you can only contribute in one aspect of the game
I said nasty against the run, which they are, not nasty in general.
well fair enough but they arent even nasty against the run...in fact i barely ever notice them against the run...if youre nasty youre in the backfield all the time like a haynesworth wilfork tommie harris ngata ect...bunkley and patterson are so far below those guys level its not even funny
and im not even ripping them...im happy with their games and they are way down the list of things to even consider changing on the team...but just know what they are before you start going on and on about them
We'll see.
If they ever get a half decent cast around them we'll see what they really have.
Quote from: King Cole on November 15, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
Bunkley gets a lot of push on the interior.
But I think we all know how good Igy and Rome's talent evaluation is. Just look at the Celek topic for reference.
You mean like this bit of brilliance on your part?
QuoteKing Cole
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2007, 11:11:06 PM »
I'm not saying he is or isn't going to be better than Patrick, but to claim he sucks without seeing him in at least one preseason game is ridiculous.
Clown.
This conversation has gotten pretty darn nasty.
Quote from: Rome on November 15, 2009, 09:09:01 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 15, 2009, 08:51:17 PM
Bunkley gets a lot of push on the interior.
But I think we all know how good Igy and Rome's talent evaluation is. Just look at the Celek topic for reference.
You mean like this bit of brilliance on your part?
QuoteKing Cole
« Reply #56 on: May 12, 2007, 11:11:06 PM »
I'm not saying he is or isn't going to be better than Patrick, but to claim he sucks without seeing him in at least one preseason game is ridiculous.
Clown.
Are you stupid? I'm the only one who defended Celek in the topic and you are calling me a clown? Of course it is brilliance. As per usual for me. Everyone else called the guy a bust before he even stepped on the field. Don't come to a heavyweight debate against a heavyweight debater with featherweight material, little man.
you blindly defend every eagle in every situation...congrats on getting one right...which you didnt even really do...you just didnt get it wrong
you have time and time again proven to everyone here that you are a know nothing homertastic brain lock...and your defense is to go back to a two year old thread about a 5th round pick?....wow...be proud
He went back to a two year old thread where he didn't say one way or another whether Celek was going to be productive, just that anyone who said he wouldn't was being premature.
And it's funny that he mentioned me because I didn't post my opinion one way or another in that thread.
Whatever, though. He's a clown. We all know it and shame on any of us for engaging him one way or another. After all this time we should know better.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2009, 08:05:14 AM
you blindly defend every eagle in every situation...congrats on getting one right...which you didnt even really do...you just didnt get it wrong
you have time and time again proven to everyone here that you are a know nothing homertastic brain lock...and your defense is to go back to a two year old thread about a 5th round pick?....wow...be proud
I think I've gotten more right in one season than you have in your entire posting history here. Also, I never said I projected Celek to be this big stud TE. All I said was you two morons predicted him to be a bust and you were way off. Nice job trying to spin it the other way.
and I'm far from "homertastic" and have never been. Just because I don't hate on everything Eagles related like you to try and be defiant, doesn't mean I'm a homer. If I was a homer I wouldn't have said this team is going to miss the playoffs. I also wouldn't have said that the McNabb should go, and Reid should go, and the offensive line can't block, and they have no heart, etc etc. I've criticized this team pretty much from top to bottom these past few weeks. But of course you'll look past that and bring up the fact that I think Bunkley and Patterson are stud DTs for your argument. If you weren't so ignorant you would actually realize that we agree on a lot of the issues regarding the Eagles. I just don't take it to the over-the-top extreme that you do.
Any time you make up new definitions for words you can find anything to fit the category.
Quote from: King Cole on November 16, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2009, 08:05:14 AM
you blindly defend every eagle in every situation...congrats on getting one right...which you didnt even really do...you just didnt get it wrong
you have time and time again proven to everyone here that you are a know nothing homertastic brain lock...and your defense is to go back to a two year old thread about a 5th round pick?....wow...be proud
I think I've gotten more right in one season than you have in your entire posting history here. Also, I never said I projected Celek to be this big stud TE. All I said was you two morons predicted him to be a bust and you were way off. Nice job trying to spin it the other way.
and I'm far from "homertastic" and have never been. Just because I don't hate on everything Eagles related like you to try and be defiant, doesn't mean I'm a homer. If I was a homer I wouldn't have said this team is going to miss the playoffs. I also wouldn't have said that the McNabb should go, and Reid should go, and the offensive line can't block, and they have no heart, etc etc. I've criticized this team pretty much from top to bottom these past few weeks. But of course you'll look past that and bring up the fact that I think Bunkley and Patterson are stud DTs for your argument. If you weren't so ignorant you would actually realize that we agree on a lot of the issues regarding the Eagles. I just don't take it to the over-the-top extreme that you do.
Any time you make up new definitions for words you can find anything to fit the category.
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/didntread4gd.gif)
lol
Well, at least you realize you are over-matched and will just end up getting owned in any debate with me.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2009, 04:03:39 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 16, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2009, 08:05:14 AM
you blindly defend every eagle in every situation...congrats on getting one right...which you didnt even really do...you just didnt get it wrong
you have time and time again proven to everyone here that you are a know nothing homertastic brain lock...and your defense is to go back to a two year old thread about a 5th round pick?....wow...be proud
I think I've gotten more right in one season than you have in your entire posting history here. Also, I never said I projected Celek to be this big stud TE. All I said was you two morons predicted him to be a bust and you were way off. Nice job trying to spin it the other way.
and I'm far from "homertastic" and have never been. Just because I don't hate on everything Eagles related like you to try and be defiant, doesn't mean I'm a homer. If I was a homer I wouldn't have said this team is going to miss the playoffs. I also wouldn't have said that the McNabb should go, and Reid should go, and the offensive line can't block, and they have no heart, etc etc. I've criticized this team pretty much from top to bottom these past few weeks. But of course you'll look past that and bring up the fact that I think Bunkley and Patterson are stud DTs for your argument. If you weren't so ignorant you would actually realize that we agree on a lot of the issues regarding the Eagles. I just don't take it to the over-the-top extreme that you do.
Any time you make up new definitions for words you can find anything to fit the category.
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/didntread4gd.gif)
Ha! Saw that coming...
Quote from: King Cole on November 16, 2009, 04:41:48 PM
Well, at least you realize you are over-matched and will just end up getting owned in any debate with me.
2001 called and wants its lame ass internet slang back.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2009, 04:03:39 PM
Quote from: King Cole on November 16, 2009, 03:49:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2009, 08:05:14 AM
you blindly defend every eagle in every situation...congrats on getting one right...which you didnt even really do...you just didnt get it wrong
you have time and time again proven to everyone here that you are a know nothing homertastic brain lock...and your defense is to go back to a two year old thread about a 5th round pick?....wow...be proud
I think I've gotten more right in one season than you have in your entire posting history here. Also, I never said I projected Celek to be this big stud TE. All I said was you two morons predicted him to be a bust and you were way off. Nice job trying to spin it the other way.
and I'm far from "homertastic" and have never been. Just because I don't hate on everything Eagles related like you to try and be defiant, doesn't mean I'm a homer. If I was a homer I wouldn't have said this team is going to miss the playoffs. I also wouldn't have said that the McNabb should go, and Reid should go, and the offensive line can't block, and they have no heart, etc etc. I've criticized this team pretty much from top to bottom these past few weeks. But of course you'll look past that and bring up the fact that I think Bunkley and Patterson are stud DTs for your argument. If you weren't so ignorant you would actually realize that we agree on a lot of the issues regarding the Eagles. I just don't take it to the over-the-top extreme that you do.
Any time you make up new definitions for words you can find anything to fit the category.
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/didntread4gd.gif)
I took a glance at dumbass' post and thought IGY's gonna break out the didn't read.
Quote from: Rome on November 16, 2009, 06:04:13 PM
2001 called and wants its lame ass internet slang back.
Weaksauce.
lol