I really can't take more of him (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20091010_Eagles__Reid_said_to_be_talking_new_deal__but_focuses_on_football.html)
you can when they are winning no?
Not a huge deal. If the team goes in the tank and he loses them, they'll still get rid of him. Happens all the time. He's added phenomenal group of young skill players, and will get a chance to ride them for a bit. The only thing that really drives me nuts, is that it's like another so-many-years with zero chance of an actual running game....
He has made Jeffy and Chrissy more money than they could possibly imagine. Seems like a good business move to me.
exactly....and the fact reid gets team is oh so close is fine with banner and corp.
if a championship happens one of these years fantastic, but its all about putting the proper product on the field to maintain competitiveness and make that loot...and reid has been able to do that consistently
The funny thing is that Snyder and Jones have been able to make money by putting warmed-up dog poop on the field for years. Go figure.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 10, 2009, 09:55:34 AM
Not a huge deal. If the team goes in the tank and he loses them, they'll still get rid of him.
Yeah. Few if any coaches are sent away by not having their contracts renewed. Reid is here until he doesn't want to be, or until he's fired. A new contract doesn't really change that equation at all.
The difference is Lurie's debt service on the purchase of the team and the loan he obtained to built The Linc is so huge he couldn't financially withstand as many fargups as Jerry & Danny Boy.
Seriously, the Eagles might be worth a billion or whatever but that's just on paper. If you look at the Eagles operating revenue figures it's actually fairly pitiful.
Regardless, Reid is here to stay until he strokes out. Luckily for us he's an enormous fat ass with arteries that are clogged worse than the Schuylkill at rush hour.
This is some of the least shocking news about the Eagles over the past few months.
I thought the least shocking would be Banner trying to recover some of Jim Johnson's salary from his estate.
reid is coach fo life
get on it motherfarga
What it says to me is what I already knew, but what I wish wasn't the case....he's not going anywhere and this is another vote of confidence.
I think the thing for me, and why this article just adds more to what will likely be a long end-game of attrition, is that this edition of the Eagles just feels old and stale.
When watching the recent Jets/Saints game I was struck by how much those teams looked to be ascendant compared to Reid's 2009 assembled roster and game plan - that their better years seem to be ahead of them. The Jets (D especially) looked like the Eagles of 99-02 and the Saints similar to the Eagles salad years of 02-05. Yes, the eagles have some youth that is exciting, but I just don't see a new version of "Reid" deep inside the blubber and hyperlipidemia who will turn the accelerating corner of decline and irrelevance.
Reid is two years late and a dollar short with his wildcat infatuation, his denial of LB's as need is a constant embarrassment and he did little-to-nothing to plan for succession of Dawkins and JJ. Every year there is a different hole in the roof he can't fix - ST issues/penalties last year, WR before that, D's that can't stop late-game drives, etc. And of course constants like clock and t/o management, sideline-to-huddle communications, and finally terminal infatuations with projects and players who have no business being on the roster.
They feel old and remind me a lot like the precipice that was 1993-94. And the few good players around at that time providing a year-over-year thread of hope proved both chimeric and fleeting.
Quote from: JackStraw on October 10, 2009, 04:51:21 PM
I think the thing for me, and why this article just adds more to what will likely be a long end-game of attrition, is that this edition of the Eagles just feels old and stale.
When watching the recent Jets/Saints game I was struck by how much those teams looked to be ascendant compared to Reid's 2009 assembled roster and game plan - that their better years seem to be ahead of them. The Jets (D especially) looked like the Eagles of 99-02 and the Saints similar to the Eagles salad years of 02-05. Yes, the eagles have some youth that is exciting, but I just don't see a new version of "Reid" deep inside the blubber and hyperlipidemia who will turn the accelerating corner of decline and irrelevance.
Reid is two years late and a dollar short with his wildcat infatuation, his denial of LB's as need is a constant embarrassment and he did little-to-nothing to plan for succession of Dawkins and JJ. Every year there is a different hole in the roof he can't fix - ST issues/penalties last year, WR before that, D's that can't stop late-game drives, etc. And of course constants like clock and t/o management, sideline-to-huddle communications, and finally terminal infatuations with projects and players who have no business being on the roster.
They feel old and remind me a lot like the precipice that was 1993-94. And the few good players around at that time providing a year-over-year thread of hope proved both chimeric and fleeting.
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Couldn't find IGY's old oneAs much as I love to bash Reid, the last two seasons have taught me one thing. It could be much (Lions), much (taterskins), worse (St. Louis). It is what it is.....
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on October 10, 2009, 05:22:39 PM
It is what it is.....
Existentialism in acceptance of mediocrity? But then again John Paul Rosenberg was from Philly. The teams performance against the Saints was a watershed moment. The trip to the Lions is closer than the trip to Saints as any late-antiquity Roman citizen would attest.
Quote from: JackStraw on October 10, 2009, 04:51:21 PM
I think the thing for me, and why this article just adds more to what will likely be a long end-game of attrition, is that this edition of the Eagles just feels old and stale.
When watching the recent Jets/Saints game I was struck by how much those teams looked to be ascendant compared to Reid's 2009 assembled roster and game plan - that their better years seem to be ahead of them. The Jets (D especially) looked like the Eagles of 99-02 and the Saints similar to the Eagles salad years of 02-05. Yes, the eagles have some youth that is exciting, but I just don't see a new version of "Reid" deep inside the blubber and hyperlipidemia who will turn the accelerating corner of decline and irrelevance.
Reid is two years late and a dollar short with his wildcat infatuation, his denial of LB's as need is a constant embarrassment and he did little-to-nothing to plan for succession of Dawkins and JJ. Every year there is a different hole in the roof he can't fix - ST issues/penalties last year, WR before that, D's that can't stop late-game drives, etc. And of course constants like clock and t/o management, sideline-to-huddle communications, and finally terminal infatuations with projects and players who have no business being on the roster.
They feel old and remind me a lot like the precipice that was 1993-94. And the few good players around at that time providing a year-over-year thread of hope proved both chimeric and fleeting.
Well said and pretty much how I feel.
There isn't a person here who wouldn't accept an assignment as heinous as banging Tammy Reid if the result was a Super Bowl win.
Except there won't be a Super Bowl win.
Ever?
the deal i made with the devil stipulates that the eagles with the sb the season following your death. so how 'bout taking one for the team, eh bud? the drain-o is under the sink. cheers.
also, i'm as anti-reid as anyone but i'm not the least bit suprised by this because when you look at it purely from a business standpoint, reid takes what the fo gives him and puts a competetive team on the field. it's hard to argue with division titles, playoff wins and nfccg appearances.....especially since 3 out of 5 were played in philly. in fact, i believe that last year was the first year during reid's tenure that the eagles didn't have a single post season home game.
so even though i don't particularly care for the guy, his arrogance, his apparent hatred of the ground game, his mustache or his parenting ability, he's been very stable and very steady during his time. and he has been very succesful. it'd be very easy to say that he's had plenty of time to win a sb but the same could have been said for bill cowher too. will reid ever get them over the hump? i don't know. but even though i don't like the guy, i'd be foolish to say that he hasn't been successful or that he doesn't deserve a new deal.
i came to grips a long time ago with the fact that reid is going to coach this team as long as they are winning 10+ games a year, selling out 8 games a year and making the occasional deep run into the playoffs. you should too.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2009, 11:50:30 PM
reid takes what the fo gives him
I missed the part where he doesn't have final say on the players they bring in.
no worries, i got the salt.
I'm shocked that anyone is shocked by this. I always thought it would be a foregone conclusion that Reid is extended.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 11, 2009, 01:33:36 AM
I'm shocked that anyone is shocked by this. I always thought it would be a foregone conclusion that Reid is extended.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2009, 03:13:59 PM
What it says to me is what I already knew, but what I wish wasn't the case....he's not going anywhere and this is another vote of confidence.
It was anger why I posted this. Not shock.
don't post angry!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 11, 2009, 08:43:26 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 11, 2009, 01:33:36 AM
I'm shocked that anyone is shocked by this. I always thought it would be a foregone conclusion that Reid is extended.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2009, 03:13:59 PM
What it says to me is what I already knew, but what I wish wasn't the case....he's not going anywhere and this is another vote of confidence.
It was anger why I posted this. Not shock.
For me this is completely expected so it is hard to get angry.
bump this thread after they lose to the giants by two touchdowns and i have a feeling the tone will be much different
Bump this thread after Fatty wins a Super Bowl....and then the feelings will be completely different.
Until then, no...nothing will change the feelings.
If Andy wins a superbowl I think he retires within two seasons, but we'll never know.
so who should rerplace reid ?
There are quite a few good coaches sitting around waiting to see what happens with the CBA. But I'd take Cowher or even Gruden. Shanahan is out there as well. Dungy maybe? Its not a lack of good coaching out there.
I never want to see Gruden coaching again. Ever. I hope he dies on the way to his next interview.
Any coach that understands you don't get punished by goblins for running the ball and likes having good linebackers would be fine by me.
i'd like cowher. i do not want dungy. especially if it would happen next year as he would keep vick. gruden ? meh, i'll pass.
hey, john fox may be available. :-\
I don't think they'd hire Dungy anyway.
I'd love Cowher to come here.
i think the chin would be a great fit.
especially when he walks over to banner and decks him with that chin the first he opens his arrogant mouth.
i can dream can't i ?
I think most fans would love to see Reid replaced but unless this team totally goes on the tank for several seasons it isn't going to happen.
Quote from: sean_sec227 on October 12, 2009, 12:39:15 PM
i think the chin would be a great fit.
especially when he walks over to banner and decks him with that chin the first he opens his arrogant mouth.
i can dream can't i ?
I'd love to see him after a game of 112 yds in penalties.
I'd take them all but Chucky. Don't think Cowher would ever go to Eags, just because of that other pa team
With our collective luck, the Eagles will end up with Mora Jr in three seasons.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 12, 2009, 01:17:03 PM
With our collective luck, the Eagles will end up with Mora Jr in three seasons.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo...OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 12, 2009, 12:51:43 PM
Quote from: sean_sec227 on October 12, 2009, 12:39:15 PM
i think the chin would be a great fit.
especially when he walks over to banner and decks him with that chin the first he opens his arrogant mouth.
i can dream can't i ?
I'd love to see him after a game of 112 yds in penalties.
the stadium would be showered with cowher slobber as he ripped each and every player apart.
Does anybody seriously think the next coach wont be Morn-HEN-in-weg (as Rosen kept calling him Sunday)?
Great.
Another Kotite or Fisher decision.
Yeah, if it's more than 5 yrs from now it could between Marty and that kid of Andy's that hangs around on the sideline.
I thought the kid was just there so they could reel cables out of his ass.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2009, 08:18:39 AM
I really can't take more of him (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20091010_Eagles__Reid_said_to_be_talking_new_deal__but_focuses_on_football.html)
In other news Philly area Buffets rejoice...
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20091014_Reid_s_agent_confirms_extension_talks.html
Talks are confirmed.