Not the GDT, just chat about the upcoming game. Predictions, expectations?
I have a very wait and see approach with the Eagles this year. So many questions, and rather than answering the unknown, I think it is best to let it play out and see.
The Eagles run defense is a little worrisome, but Carolina's should be too. Beason is banged up, they lost Kemoeatu to injury and they may have another injury or too as well. Can't remember. The Eagles should be able to establish the run on them with a real FB if Andy decides to actually run the ball. Plus, I'm more confident in the offensive line run blocking with limited reps as opposed to pass blocking.
Establish the run, go play action to Jackson, and work the middle of the field with Celek. Hope for the best with the run defense and don't let Smith get behind you on defense. They don't have much of a TE and Delhomme sucks. Their only 2 real weapons are Williams and Smith.
Eagles 44 Panthers 17
Quote from: King Cole on August 20, 2009, 11:22:18 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 20, 2009, 11:18:08 PM
Quote from: King Cole on August 20, 2009, 11:14:31 PM
Love this defense.
What's to love?
Two premiere defensive tackles, a stud pass rusher in Cole, the best secondary in the NFL. Mediocre linebackers, but good enough to win football games. This defense isn't all that different from last year and wehad one of the best defenses in the NFL last year. So what changes all of a sudden?
Quote from: King Cole on August 20, 2009, 11:17:40 PM
and it will still be good enough to be a top 5 defense in the NFL like it was last year.
31-28 Carolina.
I'll stand by it.
I have no feel for this game at all.
I'll go with 17-3.
It's probably Carolina that gets the 17.
Jake Delhomme is their starting qb....
31-17 Eagles.
I feel the Eagles will have no problem scoring 20-30 or more pts. a game, but the D is questionable at this point. If the Eagles fall behind early it could be a very long game.
32-28 Eagles.
Eagles lose. Pretty confident about it.
Carolina 180
Eagles 2
I haven't really paid too much attention to it with the Phils being on, but the preseason went pretty fast for me. I was hoping they had some more time to demonstrate they had gotten it together. I think they will look like hot garbage, and the Panthers are going to run the ball down their throats, while the offense looks completely out of sync.
Panthers 24 - Bird 13
1000 - 10014 EAGLES
We are all rightly concerned that the Eagles may be mediocre this year, but let's not overlook the fact that the Panthers will likely be at least as mediocre as the Eagles. Their camp and preseason have been downright horrible, and I'm not talking about losing meaningless games. I'm talking about showing no flashes of talent whatsoever for the last month. I think last year was flukey for them, and I think their fanbase is feeling the discomfort. They have star players but they have a shtein QB and a lot of times over the years this team has been unable to put the puzzle pieces together correctly. 24-17 Eagles... a Panthers loss more than an Eagles win.
Too early for a prediction, but I don't have a good feeling.
1. What's going to happen with the OL; are Andrews and Andrews playing? Even if they are, what is the chemistry going to look like? How many sacks will Julius Peppers beat Peters for?
2. They have to force noodle arm to beat them. If Williams gets on track and runs on them, its going to be a long day.
3. Is the offense going to be in sync and have rhythm?
The only thing we can hope for is that they come out with the offense clicking. If they lose this game, they are staring 0-2 right in the face with NO next week.
more likely to see - Samuel pic or Steve Smith Td? That should be a good match up to watch.
Tough call, I'll go Smith TD.
What if Steve Smith stubs a toe early in the game and needs to be carted out?
Map (http://the506.com/nflmaps/2009/01-FOX-E.html)
Dick Stockton and Charles Davis....FOX's "C" team
I predict a loss because Andy sucks in week 1s, his team looked like a mess in the preseason and is still tinkering with the starting lineup less than 6 days before the game, and Carolina has a great running game....
yes! the maps are back. why does a random pocket of ny state get the game? i can never figure these things out..
anyway stockton and davis are going to break unintentional comedy records and could be worse than the preseason team if thats even possible
that blue area in NY is Syracuse
theres no way the syracuse market covers that much ground and its ridiculous to assume that people there want to watch the eagles because some black dude played there 11 years ago
Quote from: MDS on September 08, 2009, 01:02:27 AM
yes! the maps are back. why does a random pocket of ny state get the game? i can never figure these things out..
anyway stockton and davis are going to break unintentional comedy records and could be worse than the preseason team if thats even possible
And Donovick McNabb is back out there, Charles.
That area of NY constitutes as "MA" to your dumbass, and as we all know there is nothing to do in MA except get overly excited about high school and college football. And ride former players dicks as long as they're in the NFL.
I'm not feeling a win sunday. I think the offense has looked flat and will struggle as usual with the pass first offense which is going to put me into pre-cardiac arrest all game long. defense however, overcomes and asante picks 6's delhomo for the game winning TD.
Birds - 20
Panthers - 17
Quote
Panthers' offensive line works well together
By Paul Domowitch
Philadelphia Daily News
Daily News Sports Columnist
WHEN THE EAGLES open the 2009 season in Charlotte on Sunday, a unit that was considered one of their greatest strengths going into training camp 5 weeks ago will be one of their biggest question marks.
No one - including coach Andy Reid - really knows what to expect from a renovated offensive line that didn't take a single preseason snap together.
Left guard Todd Herremans still is recovering from surgery to repair a stress fracture in a foot and could be out until next month. New right tackle Shawn Andrews missed all of training camp and the preseason with a cranky back. His brother, Stacy, the team's new starting right guard, played in just one preseason game after having January ACL surgery. New left tackle Jason Peters missed time with a quad injury.
"I'm not going to say it's going to take a lot of time [for them to get on the same page], but it will take time," Reid said in June when discussing his new and supposedly improved o-line. "Those five guys have to be dancing the same dance."
Right now, Shawn Andrews is doing the merengue, Stacy is doing the tango, Peters is doing the fox trot, center Jamaal Jackson is doing the cha-cha and Herremans' replacement, Nick Cole, is doing the rumba.
Meanwhile, down in Charlotte, the Carolina Panthers will be trotting out a battle-tested offensive line who know each other better than an old married couple. They not only dance the same dance, they finish each other's sentences, complete each other's thoughts and, oh, yeah, play together better than the New York Philharmonic.
"Half of being a good offensive line is knowing each other and knowing how each other plays," said the Panthers' Pro Bowl left tackle, Jordan Gross. "We got that out of the way last year. There's really no excuse for us not to be a good unit, and hopefully, build off what we did last year."
What Gross and his linemates - left guard Travelle Wharton, center Ryan Kalil, right guard Keydrick Vincent and right tackle Jeff Otah - did last year was play as well as any offensive line in the NFL.
They helped Carolina, which won the NFC South with a 12-4 record, set franchise records for rushing yards (2,437) and fewest sacks allowed (20). The Panthers' pound-the-ball-down-your-throat offense - their 504 rushing attempts were the third most in the NFC behind only Atlanta (560) and Minnesota (519) - finished third in the league in rushing, seventh in scoring and 10th in total offense.
The Panthers' two running backs, DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart, combined for 2,351 rushing yards in '08, the most by an NFL ballcarrying tandem in nearly a quarter century. In the Panthers' final eight games, Williams and Stewart combined for eight 100-yard rushing performances.
With all five offensive line starters back to pave the way for Williams and Stewart and provide security for quarterback Jake Delhomme, the Panthers are looking for even bigger and better things from their offense this season.
"I think we're much farther along than we were a year ago," said Gross, who is playing on the same side in consecutive seasons for the first time in his career. "The key for us is getting our depth developed. We've got a lot of young [backup] players. Unproven guys that need to step up and show what they can do. But as far as our starting five, we've got the potential to be a really good unit."
The Panthers had excellent depth up front last year and it came in handy. Otah, the rookie drafted in the first round with the pick they got from the Eagles, missed four games in October and November. But ex-Eagle Jeremy Bridges stepped in and played well.
Another veteran, Frank Omiyale, filled in for Gross for a game when he got hurt. And Geoff Hangartner started two early season games for Wharton at left guard, four at center for Kalil and two more at right guard for Vincent. The unit never missed a beat.
But Bridges, Omiyale and Hangartner all signed with other teams in the offseason, leaving the Panthers with precious little experience behind their starters. On Sunday, their top three backups will be center/guard Mackenzy Bernadeau, rookie guard Duke Robinson and tackle Geoff Schwartz, none of whom have taken an NFL regular-season snap.
"I think we've got quality [backups]," Gross said. "They just don't have a lot of experience."
The Panthers have assembled a line that is suited for the smashmouth style of offense they play. The difference in philosophy between the Panthers and the pass-happy Eagles was evident in last year's draft when the Birds, who needed an offensive tackle, traded away their first-round pick to the Panthers rather than take Otah, who was considered a better run blocker than pass blocker at Pitt.
"The style of offense we run - a power running game - they picked the right pieces of the puzzle," the 6-5, 325-pound Vincent said. "We are what we are. We were built to be a power-run, smashmouth football team. That's something we take pride in and just have to go out there and do it.
"What we do on offense is what I'm built for. I'm a run blocker. I can pass block a little bit, but we're going to outphysical you. That's what I'm made for. I'm not a finesse guy."
After drafting Otah last year, the Panthers moved Gross from right tackle to left tackle and slid Wharton inside to left guard from left tackle. Wharton's move inside was one of the keys to their rushing success last season. His power and mobility helped spring Stewart and Williams on many of their cutback runs.
The Panthers averaged 31.5 rush attempts per game last year and just 25.9 pass attempts. Delhomme isn't a carry-the-load quarterback. In 32 starts over the last 3 years, he's thrown 30-plus passes in a game just 13 times. Carolina's record in those 13 games: 4-9.
"In this offense, we're able to attack all the time and not sit back and react all the time," Otah said. "You can hit somebody instead of waiting for them to hit you. I like run blocking. I like pass blocking, too. But you can be more aggressive in run blocking."
God damn would I have loved for Otah to be an Eagle. A lot of people seem to sleeping on the fact that the Panthers run the ball as well as anyone, and the Eagles defense looks suspect at best at this point. I think the Eagles are going to get pushed around all day.
IIRC, nobody here wanted Otah and it was oh happy day when the Eagles got the extra #1...
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 08, 2009, 01:05:07 PM
IIRC, nobody here wanted Otah and it was oh happy day when the Eagles got the extra #1...
Yeah but we're all idiots so what's your point?
What I would love is for the Eagles to have a coach who believed in running the ball. After that you can argue about how best to throw away first round picks.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 08, 2009, 01:05:07 PM
IIRC, nobody here wanted Otah and it was oh happy day when the Eagles got the extra #1...
that extra 1 got them jason peters who is easily better than otah
plus they got two other picks....granted they used them on laws and mcglynn but when you consider they also got pimp in the second round with laws its not bad at all
hmm i wonder what % of lineman would rather run block than pass block?
I don't know if any of us can say that Peters is definitely better than Otah. Peters has given up a shteinload of sacks over the last two years.
they were not his fault
even with his off year last year theres no question id rather have peters than otah right now....regardless if otah was quoted as saying he likes to run block better than pass block...not sure why that makes you a great tackle
now jordan gross who is the real stud of that line and plays the same position as peters is a much better comparison
The entire Panthers line allowed 20 sacks last season.
Peters allowed 12 or some shtein.
It's pretty reasonable to ask if he's even better than Tra Thomas at this point.
Good thing Reid got rid of Tra Thomas and Runyan. Those guys sucked. Allowing sacks left and right.
sure its reasonable...but im telling you its not true
and im not even here to defend peters but lets not make otah into more than he is
and no disrespect to the carolina o line....but they didnt give up sacks because they run the ball more than almost any team in the nfl...were ahead in most games last year and have a qb who doesnt hold onto the rock
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2009, 02:29:55 PMand no disrespect to the carolina o line....but they didnt give up sacks because they run the ball more than almost any team in the nfl...were ahead in most games last year and have a qb who doesnt hold onto the rock
good points all
Otah is a RT and Peters is a LT. Replace Peters with Otah and this team still needs a LT.
otah can play LT...he played it all thru college its just that on carolina hes blocked there by gross
I'd like to see how effective he could be at LT in the NFL. More of a power guy and not very athletic at all. Sluggish.
I'd like to see all of you thrown into a volcano.
I'm pretty confident Delhomme is one of if not the worst QB in the NFL and the defense will eat his babies.
I'm pretty sure Vick, Favre, and whoever's starting in Denver and Cleveland are all worse than Delhomme.
Sloppy on both sides of the ball
EAGLES 23
Cats-19
Quote from: General_Failure on September 08, 2009, 06:42:19 PM
I'm pretty sure Vick, Favre, and whoever's starting in Denver and Cleveland are all worse than Delhomme.
He's not the worst in the NFL, but there aren't many good QBs in the NFL.
Worse starting QBs in the NFL worse than Delhomme:
Kyle Orton
Byron Leftwich
Kerry Collins
Favre
Jamarcus Russell
Matt Cassel
Shaun Hill
Brady Quinn as of right now hasn't proven shtein.
Stafford hasn't proven shtein
Possibly Romo. Romo will put up better numbers, but Delhomme has been good in the playoffs(aside from last year). Romo chokes.
Jason Campbell and Garrard and headed in that direction too, but aren't there yet. I used to think Garrard was good, but every time I look at his stats he is always 12/26 170 yards, 1 TD 2 INTs.
The amazing thing was after Delhomme's brutal season, especially the 5-pick playoff, he got that crazy ass contract. He is terrible.
Which will make it even more infuriating to see him carve up the Eagles on Sunday.
Although it appears the Panthers have kick and punt return issues, so perhaps they will suffer the same week one fate as the Eagles did a few years ago.
Wonder if Andy can pass along Reno Mahe's number to them.
The only shot he has of carving up the Eagles is if they run the ball all over us and they have put more in the box and they get play action with Smitty. Other than that, Delhomme doesn't have a lot of passing weapons. The Eagles have questions at LB, but are loaded at DB. Say what you want about Macho, but even if he sucks you can cover up a mediocre safety if your corners and other safety all play well.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 08, 2009, 11:42:42 PMWonder if Andy can pass along Reno Mahe's number to them.
Pretty sure they can just get the number off the Chickie & Pete's website.
Quote from: King Cole on September 08, 2009, 11:44:58 PM
you can cover up a mediocre safety if your corners and other safety all play well.
unless the safety is brian dawkins
Less the ball is in the hands of delhomme, better they have at winning. thats why they are a run first team. delhomme can do a decent job at QB when they run an offense like that. if they establish the run then we might be in for a long day of playing catch up and pass, pass, pass. we all know how that usually turns out.
Quote from: King Cole on September 08, 2009, 11:39:46 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 08, 2009, 06:42:19 PM
I'm pretty sure Vick, Favre, and whoever's starting in Denver and Cleveland are all worse than Delhomme.
He's not the worst in the NFL, but there aren't many good QBs in the NFL.
Worse starting QBs in the NFL worse than Delhomme:
Kyle Orton
Byron Leftwich
Kerry Collins
Favre
Jamarcus Russell
Matt Cassel
Shaun Hill
Brady Quinn as of right now hasn't proven shtein.
Stafford hasn't proven shtein
Possibly Romo. Romo will put up better numbers, but Delhomme has been good in the playoffs(aside from last year). Romo chokes.
Jason Campbell and Garrard and headed in that direction too, but aren't there yet. I used to think Garrard was good, but every time I look at his stats he is always 12/26 170 yards, 1 TD 2 INTs.
It amazes me that there are, what ,112 D-1 college teams in the league graduating starting QB's at a minimum every 4 years and more like every 2, and there is only about 15 quality NFL QB's. That is a pretty amazing failure rate from college to the NFL.
i dont think its a matter of IF they can establish the run...
the determining factor in this game is how much time does the line give mcnabb because if they hook him up the eagles can outscore carolina even WHEN the panthers are running the ball well
Quote from: methdeez on September 09, 2009, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: King Cole on September 08, 2009, 11:39:46 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on September 08, 2009, 06:42:19 PM
I'm pretty sure Vick, Favre, and whoever's starting in Denver and Cleveland are all worse than Delhomme.
He's not the worst in the NFL, but there aren't many good QBs in the NFL.
Worse starting QBs in the NFL worse than Delhomme:
Kyle Orton
Byron Leftwich
Kerry Collins
Favre
Jamarcus Russell
Matt Cassel
Shaun Hill
Brady Quinn as of right now hasn't proven shtein.
Stafford hasn't proven shtein
Possibly Romo. Romo will put up better numbers, but Delhomme has been good in the playoffs(aside from last year). Romo chokes.
Jason Campbell and Garrard and headed in that direction too, but aren't there yet. I used to think Garrard was good, but every time I look at his stats he is always 12/26 170 yards, 1 TD 2 INTs.
It amazes me that there are, what ,112 D-1 college teams in the league graduating starting QB's at a minimum every 4 years and more like every 2, and there is only about 15 quality NFL QB's. That is a pretty amazing failure rate from college to the NFL.
half the d-1 qb's are wr's or rb's playing qb....its the hardest position in professional sports...plus when you consider every d-1 college team has at least two rb's and three wr's i think the ratio of quality wr's and rb's in the nfl is less at those positions
actually right now we are in a golden age for qb's...you have HOF veterans like warner - brady - manning - farve and a sick young(ish) class of qb's.....ryan - flacco - cutler - rivers - brees - rodgers
looks like Abiamiri will be starting ahead of Juqua, and Mays is out with a shoulder injury
Abiamiri starting? I'm not sure how I feel about that. It's confusing and arousing and I think I came. But just barely.
He's #1 on the depth chart. i thought Juqua was the def. starter. Guess the new coach is switching it up a bit with him and Macho...
Juqua got busted for weed, so he lost his starting job obviously
abiamiri makes more sense against a running team...."starting" for him most likely means he plays DE on first and second down and then gives way to juqua clemons et al
btw im on record as saying clemons will have a big year....im hoping for double digit sacks from him
i really like Clemmons, he came on last year after getting healthy, and was strong during the final 6 weeks.
clemons has 17 career sacks and 12 of them have come in weeks 10-16
he needs to start better this year
http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/19094-panther-fan-ejected-cheering.html
QuoteBut at Thursday night's preseason game against the Pittsburg Steelers he says, "This little feller in a red shirt said I needed to sit down, and I said, 'I've been doing this for 14 years. You got to be kidding.' Next thing I know there was a posse of cops, a deputy sheriff and Charlotte police escorted me to security."
Nejberger says Panthers security never gave him a reason for booting him from the stands. He says they just told him, "You have to go or we're going to have to put you in jail."
feller? Is Larry The Cable Guy a Panthers fan?
QuoteAnd this is why we are the laughing stock of NFL fanbases.
Our stadium is filled with snobby douchebags and yuppie flags who think football and golf are the same sport.
"Ohh look Miranda, they converted a third down attempt, I do believe a gentle clap is in order. WELL DONE GENTLEMEN, TALLY HO!."
:-D
lol @ feller
STFD![/sean_sec_227]
The Eagles are favored on the road, so atleast Vegas likes our team.
24-17 Eagles
Asante gets it done with the Smith match-up. He has a harder time with guys like Plaxico, not small burners. McDermott will be ready this is his debut. If he can get lucky on a few run-blitzes w/o compromising the coverage to Smith's side they will do fine.
Offense needs to convert early and McNeesy needs to limit the wurm-burners...
Quote from: RezRob on September 10, 2009, 10:18:54 AM
24-17 Eagles
Asante gets it done with the Smith match-up. He has a harder time with guys like Plaxico, not small burners. McDermott will be ready this is his debut. If he can get lucky on a few run-blitzes w/o compromising the coverage to Smith's side they will do fine.
Offense needs to convert early and McNeesy needs to limit the wurm-burners...
I thought I heard Jackson has been smoking Samuel all through training camp
24-20 Eagles
Jackson can smoke prob any CB in the league, but doing it on every play is near impossible. Asante and him were having a great battle all TC.
On NFC Playbook on the NFL Network, Baldy jumped off the bandwagon and picked the Panthers while Theisman and Sterling Sharpe picked the Eagles.
game day bitches
I'm house sitting in Florida, somewhere between Jacksonville and Tampa. Looks like I'm stuck with the Dallas game.
I have to attend a function for my alma mater, then clean up after our neighborhood street fair.
Errands>>>>>NFL
Any streams for the game? I am getting the Cowboys and Bucs here :(
Laura not meant for HDTV
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 13, 2009, 12:44:59 PM
Any streams for the game? I am getting the Cowboys and Bucs here :(
I'm listening on http://theshark1037.com/ - I think I'd rather hear it than watch it this week.
Was that a goal line stand I just heard? Nope, they picked up a first down.
Way to keep backside contain there Cole.
Time for the offense to respond with three passes and a punt.
I feel great about the defense this year!!!!
big kickoff return
can't stop the running game
stupid 3rd-down penalty
celebrating a 4th-and-1 conversion
allowing a rushing TD after back-to-back false starts
sounds like every other year
Way to go Peters!
Mr. 3rd down.
1 down, 69 to go, Phreak!
3rd and 3, surely here comes a deep bomb.
Once, just once, I'd like to see them run for a first down on 3rd and short. Jesus Christ!
Demps isn't done with the dumb penalties, I guess... :boom
Quintin's on his way to the waiver wire.
He was definitely pushed into him there. BS.
Back to getting shredded by Jake Delhomme
I sure am glad they went out and got Weaver so they could run Westbrook twice out of a single back backfield.
2nd false start on Peters. Nice.
That's 2 on Peters...
Field Goal Fever: Catch It!
WOW. Akers! He hit one over 40 yards!
Good sign.
Everything else? Not so good. Curtis and Celek with horrid drops.
Time to move Sheldon to WR.
MJG hurt.
Yay.
TD!!
Killa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So much for the offense carrying the team this year.
Did i just see LJ Smith on on the sideline?
First Eagles touchdown of the season: VICTOR ABIAMIRI! WOOOOOOOOOOOO
Color me impressed by that one!
Time to move Cole to MLB?
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 13, 2009, 01:46:38 PM
Did i just see LJ Smith on on the sideline?
hahahahaha yeah Alex Smith choosing #82 is confusing the shtein out of me.
Right now this team is better being lucky than good.
Delhomme won't let us down! That's 2 on him...
Time for the Panthers to pound away with the run again.
What the hell is going on here? Since when does this defense stop the run?
PIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! JACKSON ON THE PUNT RETURN!
Too bad I have McNabb and Westbrook on my fantasy team. farg it.
So the offense has been on the field for about six plays, and there's 17 points on the board. What. The. Farg.
I told you the defense would be ok.
Just not having Dawkins dumb ass running clueless out there in coverage is a huge plus.
Sheldon Brown came to play today...
2 picks sheldon!
Okay, even Gocong made a stop. Now Sheldon has a second interception. Clearly I had some bad taquitos last night, and I'm in the hospital and heavily medicated.
Offense doesn't get paid by the hour... TD!
(http://www.theneweditor.com/uploads/steamroller.jpg)
at least the offense looks good on 8 yard drives.
actually not -7 net drive with the 15 yard penalty.
Sheldon wants to get paid
McNabb has as many completions as Delhomme now, more yards, two less interceptions, and one more touchdown.
I can't believe those scumbag Panthers fans are booing Delhomme.
Pep talk by Westbrook paid off
The D has stiffened real nice against the run too...
Jordan with the sack! :yay
Jake held on to it that time. Progress!
Soooo...the two areas we were weakest in on paper (defense/ST) before the season are carrying the team?
(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Business/images/kool-aid-man.jpg)
So DeSean has five times as many yards with punt returns as the offense does. Awesome.
Goddamn this team misses a healthy Westbrook.
Gettin some decent blocking too, surprisingly.
He was down...
McCoy's not looking so hot.
Finally got a stream to work.
If anyone needs it :
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dogs-and-cats
passwd: sticktv.net
That was not a fumble!
So Reid's going to up is challenge winning % to 3%
definitely down.
still doesn't excuse being too close to the sideline though.
Westbrook's looking pretty damn good today.
WESTBROOK!!
The ole trusty shovel pass.
So, are the Eagles doing pretty well, or are the Panthers as bad as the Rams last year?
delholmes is as bad as he was since he was born.
Akers is clearly bored and wants to liven the game up.
Here comes the stupid again with the defense.
it wouldn't be an eagles game unless they drove down the field right before the half to stay in the game.
Oh crap, now they're only up 21 points.
screwed.
Not a great decision there, Ellis...
Stupid's contagious.
Eagles 2 minute offense. So how many points for Carolina here?
Stream cut out, so I just missed McNabb's biggest scramble of the season.
Dam...my feed keeps cutting in and out
When the feeds start getting over 2k viewers, they'll do that.
The internet just decided to save you the trouble... they're not going to score. I just hope they hold Carolina scoreless to end the half.
Sunday ticket is doing the same thing.
Does Sunday Ticket have dog food ads popping up, too?
My picture is fine. World Wide Leader = FTW.
Punting w/:30 left
FC at the 15.
Halftime.
Lets hope they have to waste that timeout quickly. Oh hey, a knee! Even better!
my sound keeps cutting off with comcast. kind of glitchy picture too.
The feed is bad all over. Low budget FOX making technology cuts because of the recession.
I'm going to celebrate the first half with some cinnamon and buttermilk waffles.
If they don't throw another pass all day, I don't think I'd complain.
Really wish they hadn't thrown another pass.
Missed Baskett on that TD too. Terrible INT.
they were doing alright with the high percentage passes mixed in with a run. maybe its time mcnabb learns to not stare down his receivers
Another sack or turnover and we might just see Delhomme get pulled.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 13, 2009, 03:04:46 PM
Another sack or turnover and we might just see Delhomme get pulled.
Let's find out.
Fargin' awesome to see an interception on a screen.
QB draw, please.
Aw, shtein....
Farg!
Hard to tell if Carolina is really this bad but either way this has to boost the D's confidence..........they are making Jake's life hell today.
Nicely Done......Nicely Done
shtein.
No more QB draws ever again, please. Even if McNabb's fine, I can't imagine he comes back in this game.
OF COURSE.
Ohhh shtein...
Anyone got A.J or Neckbeards phone number.
Ohh shtein.....
:boom
Guys keep sayin he grabbed his knee but looked like he was grabbin at the hammy's to me.
I don't think he knows what to hold....
Whew...walks off.
Yeah, looks like he got clipped in the hammy on the ground.
Vick clapping?
On Dmac being down or Dmac getting up?
Quote from: 4and26 on September 13, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
I don't think he knows what to hold....
Man, when you've got cramps in both legs there's nothing you can do but spaz.
Yeah hopefully just a bruised hamstring or something to that effect.
Vick looked like he couldn't decide between being happy or shteinting his pants.
Quote from: 4and26 on September 13, 2009, 03:13:07 PM
Vick clapping?
On Dmac being down or Dmac getting up?
On McNabb having his head shoved in the Gatorade bucket.
he got kneed in the back on that 3rd hit while rolling in the endzone
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 13, 2009, 03:14:17 PM
he got kneed in the back on that 3rd hit while rolling in the endzone
Just what I was gonna say. Now they're checking out his back.
SIT HIM!
Put Westbrook in there, have him run the option for the rest of the game.
I love Jake O'Donnel.
Delhomme is responsible for 11 turnovers in his last 2 games. Wow.
I guess Westbrook's done for the day, too. No need to have him killed because Kolb can't throw.
The way Jake looks do I dare say Kolb could be the best QB on the field?
Good to see McNabb pumping his fist going into the locker room. Still could be something bad. At least its not the knee.
Quote from: 4and26 on September 13, 2009, 03:19:08 PM
The way Jake looks do I dare say Kolb could be the best QB on the field?
There are no winners in that contest.
Thank god they didn't call a pass. I just had a vision of Kolb giving up a 28 point lead.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 13, 2009, 03:04:46 PM
Another sack or turnover and we might just see Delhomme get pulled.
Failuradamus.
McKown is in.
Now let's see Kolb blow out his knees without being hit. It could happen!
lost my dam feed AGAIN
I'll take any penalty that keeps Kolb off the field.
Delhome, suicide watch. Now just waiting for Steve Smith to blow up.
Quote from: Don Ho on September 13, 2009, 03:28:06 PM
Delhome, suicide watch. Now just waiting for Steve Smith to blow up.
I hope he punches a ref. It'll be funny.
More Weave runs! More Weaver runs!
McCoy is going to be something special.
McNabb is back out.
Pun intended.
Is it just me, or does Asante look like a Jamaican Eddie Munster?
Good signs, McNabb comes out not grimacing or anything.
Kolb still sucks...
Kolb is starting the Panthers comeback.
Dammit, wrong backup blew out a knee.
I come back from going out for a bit and see Kolb in at QB, remember than Reid never pulls McNabb unless they are up 70-0, have an "aw stein!" moment. Apparently not as bad as I thought at least.
For those complaining about the feeds, I'm watching live on Fox due to living in Carolina country, (the only Panther game I'll watch all year, LOL) and they are having problems with it also.
Run that motherfarging clock, you bastiches.
Kolb still sucks.
Gaither with another turnover. Sheesh.
Seven turnovers...WOW
After the first Carolina drive I never saw an effort like this coming!
The obligatory wasted timeout, gentlemen. Now we've got an Eagles game!
Playaction on 4th down with the QB that stands around all day. Brilliant!
Kolb still sucks.
Cut Macho.
Anyone on defense who hasn't created a turnover yet?
McCoy is looking good, but damn is Kolb the slowest QB ever or what? Even Cunningham in his later years got rid of the ball quicker.
New Orleans put 45 up on Detroit, and there's still 8 minutes left in that game. Jesus. Brees has 6 TDs there.
if here these chumps talk about JJ anymore I'm going to PUKE!!
(ohh and nice stop by the D - helps my fantasy football team)
Much nicer way to end the game than how it started.
Quote from: 4and26 on September 13, 2009, 04:17:53 PM
if here these chumps talk about JJ anymore I'm going to PUKE!
Did something happen to Jim Johnson?
I closed the feed...what happened?
Goal line stand?
I think Delhomme made the defense look better than it actually is, but wow..........if the offense plays like people think it will.....yikes NFL
Mcnabb out 2-4 weeks with cracked ribs. 2009 was nice while it lasted.
Looks like the under for McNabb's games played this season is a win.
Quote from: jihadist monk on September 13, 2009, 04:23:54 PM
Mcnabb out 2-4 weeks with cracked ribs. 2009 was nice while it lasted.
Where did ya hear that?
the injuries thread.
Quote from: jihadist monk on September 13, 2009, 04:23:54 PM
Mcnabb out 2-4 weeks with cracked ribs. 2009 was nice while it lasted.
link please.
watching the game delayed and DMac looks like he is in some serious pain just trying to walk. :boom
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=18726
Quote from: jihadist monk on September 13, 2009, 04:23:54 PM
Mcnabb out 2-4 weeks with cracked ribs. 2009 was nice while it lasted.
Have you seen the Eagles schedule for the next four weeks? You could be the QB and win at least two of those games.
Reid said McNabb is a game time decision next week....where did Derrick Gunn get his info?
hugh douglas' ballsack
Watch the play again. McNabb was down and got hit by two defenders. Both late hits.
I also said I thought it was a late hit, but honestly, there was no way they could have held up at that point, IMO
True, but the one guy, didn't see who, stuck his elbow right in Dmac's back.
didn't he used to wear rib protection at some point or was that just another time he was injured?
Who farging cares, a 15 yd penalty won't change McNabb's broken ribs. Jesus Christ.
Actually, ribs or not, if it's reviewed by the commish's office, there could be fines handed out, which I think would be warrented.
Quote from: shorebird on September 13, 2009, 05:15:14 PM
True, but the one guy, didn't see who, stuck his elbow right in Dmac's back.
It wasn't an elbow in his back, it was the guy's knee/leg as he went over him.
i initially thought he got punched in the nuts at first by the one guy coming in to punch the ball out.
it's only one rib. like an appetizer or something.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 13, 2009, 05:15:14 PM
True, but the one guy, didn't see who, stuck his elbow right in Dmac's back.
It wasn't an elbow in his back, it was the guy's knee/leg as he went over him.
Not how I saw it, but I'll look again.
Quote from: shorebird on September 13, 2009, 05:25:41 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2009, 05:21:31 PM
Quote from: shorebird on September 13, 2009, 05:15:14 PM
True, but the one guy, didn't see who, stuck his elbow right in Dmac's back.
It wasn't an elbow in his back, it was the guy's knee/leg as he went over him.
Not how I saw it, but I'll look again.
We watched it like 10 times...a couple of times on super slo-mo.
Agreed - it looks like the defenders could get a pass on the momentum part, but the knee to the exposed back was gratuitous and could have been avoided.
For that, the pantywaists in the league office should bestow fines as indicated. Especially in light of all the league QB protection rules-enforcement blather during the pre-season designed mainly to save Farve's sack.
According to CSN, it's the first time since Kotite's last game (Xmas Eve 1994 at Cincy) that they had an offensive TD, defensive TD and special teams TD in the same game...
Quote from: LBIggle on September 13, 2009, 05:18:27 PM
didn't he used to wear rib protection at some point or was that just another time he was injured?
he wore a flak jacket or something in 05 when he got the sports hernia in the season opener in atl.
didn't kris jenkins, or someone else on the panther's d-line knock mcnabb out of the 03 nfccg with a late hit....also in the ribs?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2009, 06:46:35 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on September 13, 2009, 05:18:27 PM
didn't he used to wear rib protection at some point or was that just another time he was injured?
he wore a flak jacket or something in 05 when he got the sports hernia in the season opener in atl.
didn't kris jenkins, or someone else on the panther's d-line knock mcnabb out of the 03 nfccg with a late hit....also in the ribs?
yeah, that was going into halftime i think, and he played thru it until he couldnt take it any more.
that wasnt a flak jacket that was a steel chasity belt
Rickey Manning Jr popped that cherry hard
Yeah a DT came down on McNabb with his knees late. It was late, there should of been flags and a fine should come but not one mention of it. Hmm I recall a few years back when they were playing carolina and a carolina linebacker hit mcnabb late and broke a few ribs. here we go. get feeley in here til vick is ready.
I fully expect a fine. Obvious late hit on a long-time franchise QB. Plays like that draw fines like Delhomme draws INTs.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 13, 2009, 10:14:44 PM
I fully expect a fine. Obvious late hit on a long-time franchise QB. Plays like that draw fines like Delhomme draws INTs.
Was there ever a fine in the playoff game?
Greg Favors was the icehole who tore his ribs up last time.
Who was the DT who got him this time so I can root for his ACL to snap soon.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c47/MysteryMeat/delhomme.png
:-D
Tuned into the Panther's radio show for a bit while driving tonight, it was pretty hilarious listening to they replaying their only touchdown and the blocked FG as highlights, and John Fox taking fan's calls while trying to spin a positive outlook. :-D
are they angry fellers?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2009, 11:26:40 PM
Who was the DT who got him this time so I can root for his ACL to snap soon.
Damione Lewis
Good, I hope his knee explodes.
I still like the pick of Maclin, but still can't help but think that we'd be a lot more closer to a super bowl with Boldin.. or even 85.
very relevant
you mean your opinion of the eagles first round draft pick ths year didnt change after one game?
He's stubborn like that.
Found this litte blurb in the weekly Power Rankings to be quite amusing. I love ESPN.
QuoteBy going for a meaningless fifth TD against the Panthers, Donovan McNabb fractured his ribs and the Eagles' season. (Clayton)
key word is fractured not broke
A fracture is a break.
IGY is a doctor.
clayton knows he's quickly becoming irrelevant with shefter at espn so he needs to write some shtein that will get people talking about him. what kind of nfl team is going to take it easy on a team when they're only up by 21 early in the 3rd quarter. that's not a crazy lead.
Both Clayton and Mortenson are on watch now that Schefter is on site...
and he has it wrong, he fractured a rib, not ribs.
Quote from: phattymatty on September 16, 2009, 02:31:38 PM
clayton knows he's quickly becoming irrelevant
HDtv is gonna run him out of the TV business. If Noriega and Montgomery Burns were combined?
:-D
yeah, he was bad before HD...now, I cringe when he comes on TV.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 16, 2009, 02:24:10 PM
A fracture is a break.
thanks quincy but i was saying their season isnt broken....just fractured
And I'm telling you that a fracture is a break.
nevermind....youre slow
the door is a jar
What's the fellas name on first?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 16, 2009, 08:15:01 AM
you mean your opinion of the eagles first round draft pick ths year didnt change after one game?
Did I say Maclin isn't going to be a good player?? No. I said I'd rather have someone like Boldin who could make an immediate impact. Maclin missed some camp and isn't even involved in the return game. If at looking at purely our super bowl chances this year and for the next few years, I'm taking Boldin.
Our Super Bowl chances are nil every year.
The Eagles have a small chance each year as a factual matter, though Andy Reid does his best to minimize the opportunity.
Quote from: RezRob on September 16, 2009, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on September 16, 2009, 02:31:38 PM
clayton knows he's quickly becoming irrelevant
HDtv is gonna run him out of the TV business. If Noriega and Montgomery Burns were combined?
http://withleather.uproxx.com/2008/02/sean-salisbury-abuses-nerd-onair
Tales from the Crypt.
Look at how fat that motherfarger's face is. Jesus.
Quote from: bowzer on September 16, 2009, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: RezRob on September 16, 2009, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on September 16, 2009, 02:31:38 PM
clayton knows he's quickly becoming irrelevant
HDtv is gonna run him out of the TV business. If Noriega and Montgomery Burns were combined?
http://withleather.uproxx.com/2008/02/sean-salisbury-abuses-nerd-onair
Tales from the Crypt.
:-D :-D :-D
must read stuff about Jake, and a great miked up video of Smith from last week (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmonsnflpicks/090918)
simmons is the mack dad...great article
Quote from: reese125 on September 18, 2009, 04:49:19 PM
simmons is the mack dad...great article
QuoteHas Brad Childress ever given an interview in which it didn't look like he should be staring through penitentiary glass holding a black phone?
:-D
QuoteI have two Adrian Peterson thoughts. First, he combines my favorite single qualities of five different great running backs: Walter Payton (the move where he breaks a tackle, then stiff-arms a tackler coming from behind to buy a second while getting his legs churning again); Barry Sanders (the part where he's so electric that it's just not worth betting heavily against his team because he can singlehandedly break you); Eric Dickerson (the way he cruises through a hole and you wait for him to kick it into another gear for a split second before realizing he's running away from everyone already); Emmitt Smith (a nasty edge that can only be described as "Look, there's no way we're losing this game and that's that"); and O.J. Simpson (killing).
ha!
QuoteFlozell, Sensabaugh fines push total for the week to $280,000
Posted by Tom Curran on September 18, 2009 11:03 PM ET
A pair of Cowboys found themselves $5,000 lighter in the wallet today.
According to Charean Williams of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the NFL determined that Dallas left tackle Flozell Adams "unnecessarily struck his opponent in the head area" while blocking on an end-around.
Meanwhile, safety Gerald Sensabaugh got docked for a horse-collar tackle on Tampa running back Carnell Williams.
The NFL doesn't give a full accounting of all fines assessed to players in a given week, only those about which the league is specifically asked. Still, between game-action fines we've seen reported and the fines handed down to Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Texans corner Dunta Robinson, there have been $155,000 in fines imposed. (Robinson's $25,000 fine was levied by Houston.)
Tack on the $125,000 fine Lorenzo Loose Lips cost the Jets and their 2008 braintrust, and that's a cool $280,000 in fines levied by the NFL or its clubs.
That we know about.
280K in fines, and Damione Lewis is still off the hook