feel free to add your own but i wanted a spot where all reviews could be posted....
prisco
Philadelphia Eagles: A-
Despite the presence of dynamic playmakers Brian Westbrook and DeSean Jackson, the Eagles clearly made adding weapons a focus on draft day. It could pay off beautifully with Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy, Cornelius Ingram and Brandon Gibson all capable of being NFL standouts. The trade for left tackle Jason Peters earlier in the week makes Philadelphia's draft as impressive as any -- though the Eagles had an early advantage having entered the process with two first-round picks because due to a trade with Carolina last year.
kiper
Philadelphia Eagles: GRADE: B-
Wide receiver Jeremy Maclin was a good pick, but he needs to work on his route running to be a consistent threat in the NFL. Running back LeSean McCoy was a good selection in the second round and so was tight end Cornelius Ingram in the fifth round. The fifth round was a good round for the Eagles, who also picked up cornerback Victor Harris and offensive tackle Fenuki Tupou.
add on if/when you find any....
usa today....
GRADE: A
• Philadelphia Eagles: Traded a No. 1 previously to Buffalo for Pro Bowl LT Jason Peters. Traded up to get WR Jeremy Maclin, who may become the weapon so often deemed lacking from this offense. First time the Eagles used a No. 1 pick since 2006. RB LeSean McCoy is much like Brian Westbrook in style and should adapt quickly to the Eagles Offense. CB Victor "Macho" Harris, taken in the fifth round, could have gone higher and ought to fit well in Philly's aggressive scheme. Got CB Ellis Hobbs from New England for two No. 5 picks. Wow.
yahoo....
Philadelphia Eagles
Picks: WR Jeremy Maclin, RB LeSean McCoy, TE Cornelius Ingram, CB Victor Harris, OT Fenuki Tupou, WR Brandon Gibson, G Paul Fanaika
Positive: Offensive skill position additions.
Negative: Only two picks in the top 150.
Bottom line: B-.
Maclin should be another instant impact guy, like DeSean Jackson was last season. McCoy doesn't have elite speed, but he can make defenders miss and could develop into an NFL starter. Ingram will be a liability in run-blocking. After Maclin and McCoy, there may not be many future starters.
fox sports...
When rating this draft, start by remembering the Eagles used a first-round pick for Buffalo offensive tackle Jason Peters, who has Pro Bowl talent. Peters will team with ex-Bengal Stacy Andrews to give Donovan McNabb two new protectors on the outside. Then, the Eagles lucked into Missouri receiver Jeremy Maclin, who was rated No. 1 at his position on 18 teams' draft boards. Then in the second round, Pitt running back LeSean McCoy was another steal with 53rd overall pick. McCoy will give Brian Westbrook a breather this season.
Virginia Tech cornerback Victor Harris has only 4.6 speed, but he should be a core special-teams player. Harris did have 15 interceptions. You have to like the trade with New England in order to land cornerback Ellis Hobbs, who gives the Eagles some added depth in case they ever deal unhappy starter Sheldon Brown. Florida TE Cornelius Ingram could be a steal if his knee is OK. Grade: A
sporting news...
Philadelphia Eagles: A
Their offense has become more dangerous. Jeremy Maclin is a threat as a receiver and a returner. Running back LeSean McCoy can make people miss and can catch the football. Tight end Cornelius Ingram fits their system as a receiver. And they traded Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters before the draft.
todd mcshay....
Philadelphia Eagles
Best pick: RB LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh (Second round, No. 53 overall)
Worst pick: OT Fenuki Tupou, Oregon (Fifth round, No. 159 overall)
Bottom line: On paper, the Eagles appear to have one of best classes of 2009. Granted, Jeremy Maclin has a lot of developing to do as a route-runner, but his RAC skills project perfectly in Philadelphia's West Coast offense and should be able to at least help as a No. 3 wideout and return man this year. McCoy is the best pass-catching back in this draft and should pay dividends by initially taking the load off Brian Westbrook. Long term, he should develop into the full-time starter two or three years down the road. TE Cornelius Ingram was a steal in the fifth round as was WR Brandon Gibson in the sixth.
peter king...
Philadelphia. Now, no one knows if Jeremy Maclin and LeSean McCoy are going to be players. But getting them at 19 and 53, respectively, constitutes the best value picking of any team on day one of the draft, as happened last year with DeSean Jackson in the middle of Round 2.
Based on consensus perceived value and need, I think it would be hard to give the Eagles anything less than an A for the weekend. Based on actual production, it would be impossible to give anything other than an incomplete.
A -/B+
Consensus Draft Grades:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=4104114 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=4104114)
2009 Valedictorian: Eagles (3.56 GPA)
2009 Weak Link: Raiders (0.59 GPA)
Whoopsie!
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 28, 2009, 10:02:53 AM
Consensus Draft Grades:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=4104114 (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=4104114)
2009 Valedictorian: Eagles (3.56 GPA)
2009 Weak Link: Raiders (0.59 GPA)
Link fixed
I would give them a solid A just because of the additions of Hobbs and Peters. Without that I give them a B+.
I'd probably give them a solid B or B+ on the draft, but an A- if you count the trades for Peters and Hobbs among their picks.
I wasn't wild about drafting Maclin, mainly because I didn't think wideout should be a priority for this team. But given how early Moreno went he was probably a great value. Maclin was supposed to go in the Top 10 and he can immediately contribute as a punt returner.
I think McCoy is a perfect fit and an absolute STEAL in the 2nd. I very much like Cornelius Ingram in the 5th but it would be nice to have a TE who has once thrown a block. Macho Harris was a nice pickup, too.
I'd have raised the Eagles draft a half grade if they used one of those wasted late picks on Rashad Jennings or Kory Sheets. They really didn't need another wideboy for training camp.
Overall I'm pleasantly surprised. The Eagles improved themselves as much as any team in football this offseason.
It's impossible to grade a draft before the players even make the NFL. The Eagles grade could go from an A to a C- in three years, real quick. It looks good now, and I'm excited as usual. But there is still that lingreing doubt deep down in the core of my being. Thats what being an Eagle fan feels like.
With what was available and what the Eagles did, it is hard to think of how they could have done better. Unless someone really was a huge Pettigrew fan and was pissed about the Maclin pick. I personally liked Pettigrew, but didn't love him. He's not going to be Witten caliber or Gates caliber. He's just not that good as a receiver to as much of a weapon as they are. He'll be a nice TE in the NFL, but Maclin will be the better player.
They got positions of need and at the same time, great value with the picks. Throw in Peters and Hobbs and they have to get an A grade.
Quote from: shorebird on April 28, 2009, 03:42:26 PM
It's impossible to grade a draft before the players even make the NFL. The Eagles grade could go from an A to a C- in three years, real quick. It looks good now, and I'm excited as usual. But there is still that lingreing doubt deep down in the core of my being. Thats what being an Eagle fan feels like.
You can give grades based on projections, they of course mean all of nothing. It is purely for fun.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Day/2009/grades042709.htm
Based on our analysis, the winners in each division this year were the Cleveland Browns in the AFC and the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC.
Philadelphia Eagles — Andy Reid and GM Tom Heckert sacrificed the selection of OT Jeff Otah last year, trading the pick to Carolina for an additional first-rounder this year that they were able to use, along with a third-rounder, to acquire OLT Jason Peters from Buffalo. They also made a shrewd deal with the Patriots to acquire CB Ellis Hobbs for two fifth-round picks, coming away from this draft with two established veterans. Most impressive, however, was how they continued to work trades to upgrade the offense, adding a multipurpose playmaker in Jeremy Maclin and a change-of-pace back, LeSean McCoy, both of whom possess starter potential. Cornelius Ingram could turn out to be a steal in the fifth round when he recovers fully from a torn ACL, and CB Victor "Macho" Harris should find a role in sub packages. Overall, no team came away with as much proven talent as the Eagles did in this draft.
Grade: Outstanding
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 29, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Day/2009/grades042709.htm
Based on our analysis, the winners in each division this year were the Cleveland Browns in the AFC and the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC.
i can't take that seriously when they refer to each conference as divisions. i also can't take any draft evaluation seriously that doesn't openly mock dallas and oakland
i take kenzinger and cole seriously
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2009, 12:01:47 PM
i take kenzinger and cole seriously
That's nice. :yay
The Eagles got out of the draft:
* The consensus #2 wideout prospect and a guy projected to go in the Top 10
* A top 5 running back prospect who appears to fit our system very well
* A young LT who's been to multiple Pro Bowls
* A young CB with starting experience on a good defense
In addition to decent prospects at TE (Ingram) and CB/S (Harris).
Even if the entire draft class completely busts, they've walked away with at minimum a starting left tackle and capable dime/nickel corner. On paper at least, I don't see how this draft grades out ot anything less than a solid B. And I absolutely hated their last two drafts after the fact.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 29, 2009, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 29, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Day/2009/grades042709.htm
Based on our analysis, the winners in each division this year were the Cleveland Browns in the AFC and the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC.
i can't take that seriously when they refer to each conference as divisions. i also can't take any draft evaluation seriously that doesn't openly mock dallas and oakland
They got the details of the Peters trade wrong too.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 29, 2009, 12:16:17 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 29, 2009, 11:59:22 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 29, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Day/2009/grades042709.htm
Based on our analysis, the winners in each division this year were the Cleveland Browns in the AFC and the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC.
i can't take that seriously when they refer to each conference as divisions. i also can't take any draft evaluation seriously that doesn't openly mock dallas and oakland
They got the details of the Peters trade wrong too.
And is McCoy really a change of pace?
Well, Westbrook will run the correct routes and will block. Shady isn't ready for those things just yet.
The problem is that opposing defenses will know as soon as McCoy enters the game that it's a running play. So, I expect his initial usefulness will be limited to obvious run situations and "trick plays" where he goes in motion to the slot.
McCoy is pretty damn good at receiving, and screens.
Hence, why he might line up in the slot at times.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 29, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
The problem is that opposing defenses will know as soon as McCoy enters the game that it's a running play. So, I expect his initial usefulness will be limited to obvious run situations and "trick plays" where he goes in motion to the slot.
how do you figure...i agree with you that isnt going to be ready to run wr type routes out of the slot but he will definitely be big on screens plus wheel and flat routes
and do you really think theres a formation situation or personnel group that could ever say that andy reid of all guys is going to run
True. He out-thinks himself half the time.
On NFL Live last night, Schlereth was saying how he loved the Peters trade because now the Eagles can become a running team. Eric Allen laughed in his face.
as he should have.
I will believe it when I see it, but the team is definitely built to run more than 38% of the time.
at least 39%. maybe even 40.
Whoa there, Sassy. Let's not get carried away.
getting carried away is what i do. it's what makes me sassy in the first place. why do you want me to stop being me?
if andy switched to a pro set offense and ran the ball to set up the pass like a pittsburgh then id day the two tackles are 100% an upgrade
if andy ran a pro set offense, this team would have won at least 2 super bowls by now and wouldn't have lost any of their 5 nfc championship games.
good point
isn't it though?
out of the 4 losses in the conf championship, the only one i can "accept" was the first one against st louis, but that's mostly because the eagles were the up and comers and the rams were an nfc powerhouse at that point. not to mention that it was the most successful eagles season in 20 years.
but still, if reid had any commitment to the ground game at all, the eagles win all 5 of those games.
and they beat the pats in 05 and the raiders in 02.
theres no way i can go all five...but i agree if his offensive system was different or his play callling better or his clock managment better or if he was willing to get a #1 wr/more offensive weapons they would have won at least one sb
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 29, 2009, 03:50:13 PM
theres no way i can go all five...but i agree if his offensive system was different or his play callling better or his clock managment better or if he was willing to get a #1 wr/more offensive weapons they would have won at least one sb
Yup... and then the NFCCG losses wouldn't mean shtein really if you got it done at least once. Hell, even the Atlanta Braves can say, "Well, at least there was '95."
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 29, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
On NFL Live last night, Schlereth was saying how he loved the Peters trade because now the Eagles can become a running team. Eric Allen laughed in his face.
I need to find a '94 Eric Allen butta joint.
Loved me some EA...one of my favorite Birds.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 29, 2009, 06:04:46 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 29, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
On NFL Live last night, Schlereth was saying how he loved the Peters trade because now the Eagles can become a running team. Eric Allen laughed in his face.
I need to find a '94 Eric Allen butta joint.
Loved me some EA...one of my favorite Birds.
Him and Fred Barnett are high up on the list of my favorite players
It's good to have all this information in one place.
JB FTW.
A couple of these might make you chuckle. If not, farg you (http://thebrushback.com/draftgrades.htm)
Eben Britton promised death for all the teams that passed on him; not Jason Smith. The quote is possible the greatest thing anybody has ever said
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/556821 (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/556821)
QuoteI've got my own agenda. First and foremost it's to take the Jacksonville Jaguars to the Super Bowl. Secondly, I'm going to be the greatest offensive tackle to ever play this game. Every team that passed on me is going to regret it for the rest of the history of that franchise." - Jaguars second-round pick offensive tackle Eben Britton on his goals entering the NFL.
So, out of the league in four years?
Quote from: Tomahawk on May 12, 2009, 02:07:09 PM
Eben Britton promised death for all the teams that passed on him; not Jason Smith. The quote is possible the greatest thing anybody has ever said
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/556821 (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/556821)
QuoteI've got my own agenda. First and foremost it's to take the Jacksonville Jaguars to the Super Bowl. Secondly, I'm going to be the greatest offensive tackle to ever play this game. Every team that passed on me is going to regret it for the rest of the history of that franchise." - Jaguars second-round pick offensive tackle Eben Britton on his goals entering the NFL.
How's he related to Freddie Mitchell again?
Someone should remind him that Jacksonville passed on him in the first round.
They'll pay, too.
Guess who?
QuoteEarly in the off-season, it was brutal here. It was unfair here. It got to the point where I felt it was personal and in some cases I have no interest in answering those particular fans' questions. I completely have a grudge about it. I understand the passion and the interest and I appreciate it, but it went way, way overboard and it was sickening.
Hahaha. Wow.
Uh, Santa Claus.
Seriously, I have no idea, and I'm guessing that I don't want to know.
You don't.
OK. Moving right along, then.
I bet it was Sheldon Brown.
In any case, I'll bet it was posted in the wrong thread.
its gotta be mcwhiney or banner inc. right?
Quote from: Rome on May 12, 2009, 07:03:05 PM
Guess who?
QuoteEarly in the off-season, it was brutal here. It was unfair here. It got to the point where I felt it was personal and in some cases I have no interest in answering those particular fans' questions. I completely have a grudge about it. I understand the passion and the interest and I appreciate it, but it went way, way overboard and it was sickening.
Hahaha. Wow.
Brian Dawkins?
dawk would never in his life utter a bad word about the fans
actually now that i read it again its spadaro
If he knows what's good for him, he'll never in his life utter a bad word about me
i was getting a Tommy Heckert feel on that one
thats a good guess as well but this is whay its spadaro
I have no interest in answering those particular fans' questions
and i know romey is an avid reader of 'ask dave'
Quote from: Rome on May 12, 2009, 06:25:51 PM
Someone should remind him that Jacksonville passed on him in the first round.
and he wasn't even their first OT taken
and they have Tra, so he's not even going to start unless they move him to guard...
Tra Thomas will pay the most of all.
Quote from: Rome on May 12, 2009, 07:03:05 PM
Guess who?
QuoteEarly in the off-season, it was brutal here. It was unfair here. It got to the point where I felt it was personal and in some cases I have no interest in answering those particular fans' questions. I completely have a grudge about it. I understand the passion and the interest and I appreciate it, but it went way, way overboard and it was sickening.
Hahaha. Wow.
So what's the correct answer?
that must be swede hanson talking about his contract dispute back in '35.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 13, 2009, 02:33:46 PM
that must be swede hanson talking about his contract dispute back in '35.
lol
draft countdown finally has their eagles review up
http://www.draftcountdown.com/reviews/Teams/Philadelphia-Eagles.php
mel kiper just did regrading of the nfl draft on espn insider
Philadelphia Eagles (Spring grade: B-)
I think Philly moves up. This team wanted offensive weapons, and Jeremy Maclin and LeSean McCoy already frighten defenses. The Eagles have been superb in finding weapons -- and even were able to trade a sixth-round pick (Brandon Gibson) to the Rams to fill a defensive need. Not remarkable late, but two home runs for a playoff team is impressive. This grade could rise.
Current grade: B+
They have three rookie starters on a playoff team that is pretty impressive.
The rookie kickoff returner is not so impressive.
Don't think Macho was drafted to be the KOR. He wouldn't be back there if not for injuries. Jury is out on him as a safety until next year...
I wasn't talking about Harris, I was talking about Fokou he is now the starting SAM Lb. Granted the Eagles LBs suck, but he has played ok the last two weeks. Harris has some potential as a nickel or dime type player, I don't know that he is a starter.
I didn't mean to imply you were talking about Harris, just pointing out what a draft pick did yesterday.