QuoteEagles Pick Up Ellis Hobbs
Posted by Mike Florio on April 26, 2009, 1:21 p.m.
The Eagles have sent two of their many fifth-round draft picks to the Pats for veteran cornerback Ellis Hobbs.
The news comes from the Pats official Twitter feed.
I never dreamed that I'd ever type that sentence in my life.
The picks sent to the Pats are No. 137 and No. 141 overall.
Thoughts?
meh
Not bad.
If he's Roys grandson I am good with it.
(http://www.mopsquad.com/movies/images/natural.jpg)
Back with Samuel. And all of a sudden the Eagles are like the premier kick return team.
He's only 25, I thought he was closer to 30. On second thought not a bad move.
Meh is right, but yeah, suddenly this team has a ton of quality kick returners. Weird.
why cant banner and lurie just buy the pats
bye bye Sheldon
Too late to trade Sheldon now, unless they get future picks or swap him for a player like Peppers or something.
Not sure I see either of those happening.
Quote from: SunMo on April 26, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
bye bye Sheldon
Not necessarily.
They will keep him, he'll be salty as hell like Lito, be "demoted" to 5th corner and we'll be told its because his play has declined. Then he'll be dealt for a th and a 6th next year.
i meant the Sheldon we knew and loved
The Patriots gave both of the Eagles picks to the Ravens (for #123?).
Pick #137 belonged to the Lions, who sent it to the Seahawks, who sent it to the Eagles, who sent it to the Patriots, who sent it to the Ravens.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2009, 01:36:16 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 26, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
bye bye Sheldon
Not necessarily.
They will keep him, he'll be salty as hell like Lito, be "demoted" to 5th corner and we'll be told its because his play has declined. Then he'll be dealt for a th and a 6th next year.
I would hate to be dealt for a th.
So, the Eagles traded Rich Ohrnberger for Ellis Hobbs?
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2009, 01:39:38 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 26, 2009, 01:36:16 PM
Quote from: SunMo on April 26, 2009, 01:32:27 PM
bye bye Sheldon
Not necessarily.
They will keep him, he'll be salty as hell like Lito, be "demoted" to 5th corner and we'll be told its because his play has declined. Then he'll be dealt for a th and a 6th next year.
I would hate to be dealt for a th.
So, the Eagles traded Rich Ohrnberger for Ellis Hobbs?
Apparently they got a 6th rounder from Baltimore as well.
Pats fans don't think they got enough (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/232928-hobbs-traded-philadelphia-mergedx2-page2.html)
He's in the last year of his rookie deal and wants a new deal. He's a Hanson/Hood type guy, doesn't make the big play but is a solid corner. The more I think about this the more I like it. He's insurance in case Sheldon goes koo koo. They now have 4 reliable guys and Ikewannaguaiaha as a prospect.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 26, 2009, 01:44:27 PM
Pats fans don't think they got enough (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/232928-hobbs-traded-philadelphia-mergedx2-page2.html)
He's in the last year of his rookie deal and wants a new deal. He's a Hanson/Hood type guy, doesn't make the big play but is a solid corner. The more I think about this the more I like it. He's insurance in case Sheldon goes koo koo. They now have 4 reliable guys and Ikewannaguaiaha as a prospect.
He also led the AFC in kick return average last season.
He's from my hometown of Niagara Falls, NY. Had no idea.
That means he sucks...
No, it means the honeymoon begins
Quote from: EagleFeva on April 26, 2009, 01:47:39 PM
He's from my hometown of Niagara Falls, NY. Had no idea.
That means he sucks...
This one goes out to all my homies.
So the Eagles picked up a cornerback who's pissed off about his current deal?
Excellent.
ha...i was just about to post that....wait till the eagles give him a new deal and add another cb to the team that makes more than sheldon
difference is Hobbs is 5 years younger than Sheldon. They may be willing to redo his contract.
At worst, he's decent insurance.
yeah they needed to upgrade the depth at corner even if sheldon wasnt salty
You still have to admit, though, that just when the Eagles can't get any more hypocritical they pull something like this.
It's not hypocritical until they cake off Hobbs.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2009, 02:14:50 PM
It's not hypocritical until they cake off Hobbs.
Even if they do the age factor swings it in their favor in this case. Now when they let Trotter walk at what 25-26 that could be construed as hypocracy.
Why would they trade two medium round picks for a guy for only one year?
Stop it.
They're giving him a new deal while at the same time giving Sheldon the finger and it's the definition of hypocrisy.
He's 5 years younger and hasn't personally offended Joe Banner's staff yet, if you know what I mean.
contingent on making sheldon happy but most likely he is his replacement/insurance in case brown keeps to his word
Apparently NFL teams routinely redo contracts that are in the final year, like Ellis's, but they're hesistant to redo the contracts with multiple years left, like Sheldon's
Tomahawk... link?
Quote from: MDS on April 26, 2009, 02:29:45 PM
contingent on making sheldon happy but most likely he is his replacement/insurance in case brown keeps to his word
i think the brown stuff is being overplayed here...they needed an extra corner anyway...you cant depend on iggywanoo to be your dime corner and joselio hanson was their 3rd corner?...yikes
im not saying sheldon doesnt factor into it somewhere but even if he was happy this was a move they very well may have made
Go front office.
Hobbs in his conference call just said about his contract:
he's not mad about it and he still makes way more money than most of the people in this world, so he's not going to make it a problem at all.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2009, 02:30:55 PM
Tomahawk... link?
That's just shtein I picked up from the media pundits. I don't know if it's true.
Quote from: King Cole on April 26, 2009, 02:36:08 PM
Hobbs in his conference call just said about his contract:
he's not mad about it and he still makes way more money than most of the people in this world, so he's not going to make it a problem at all.
His agent then made fake static noises into Hobbs' phone and hung it up.
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2009, 02:27:26 PM
Why would they trade two medium round picks for a guy for only one year?
Stop it.
They're giving him a new deal while at the same time giving Sheldon the finger and it's the definition of hypocrisy.
I love rooting for Sheldon don't get me wrong and I think they should have broke him up off a little something in order tro bring him somewhat closer to market value.
The decision boils down to whether you think Hobbs will be equal to or as good as Sheldon has been and will be over the nwext four to five years.
I for one think Sheldon has recievers behind him way too much from game to game.
I don't mind Hobbs at all. He's a good player and I wish him nothing but success in Philly. What rubs my meatcicle raw is the fact that the Eagles do the opposite of what they demand from the players. They go out and make deals with other teams' players then act insulted when one of their own goes hat in hand looking for a bump.
How many times has this happened now - about a million?
I know it's a cold-blooded business and that's fine. But if you continually treat your own players like livestock only to treat other teams' players like royalty, sooner or later that shtein is gonna bite you in the ass.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 26, 2009, 02:30:55 PM
Tomahawk... link?
Probably your funniest post ever. Past and future.
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2009, 02:43:04 PM
I know it's a cold-blooded business and that's fine. But if you continually treat your own players like livestock only to treat other teams' players like royalty, sooner or later that shtein is gonna bite you in the ass.
Yeah, because it's smart to treat your players like meat but NOT try to acquire replacements.
Hey, at least they're compensating.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
why cant banner and lurie just buy the pats
he tried. the eagles were his consolation prize.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 26, 2009, 01:38:21 PM
Pick #137 belonged to the Lions, who sent it to the Seahawks, who sent it to the Eagles, who sent it to the Patriots, who sent it to the Ravens, who starred in Hard Knocks with Kevin Bacon.
Quote from: Rome on April 26, 2009, 02:43:04 PM
I don't mind Hobbs at all. He's a good player and I wish him nothing but success in Philly. What rubs my meatcicle raw is the fact that the Eagles do the opposite of what they demand from the players. They go out and make deals with other teams' players then act insulted when one of their own goes hat in hand looking for a bump.
How many times has this happened now - about a million?
I know it's a cold-blooded business and that's fine. But if you continually treat your own players like livestock only to treat other teams' players like royalty, sooner or later that shtein is gonna bite you in the ass.
Rome just curious...if its happened a million times already what number around will it actually hurt the Eagles?
you dont have to answer
the sad thing about it is that i don't think it ever will actually bite them in the ass. at least not in regards to players considering on signing/resigning with the eagles or not.
at first i was thinking that free agents, especially those in the 26-28 yr old range would be very hesitant to sign with the eagles because it's pretty much a known fact that they'll be released long before their contract runs out. but players and agents know that anything beyond the 2nd or 3rd year of a contract probably won't be paid out anyway. so they'll still sign a deal, get caked off with a fat signing bonus and then a few years later, they'll be released and free to sign elsewhere, where they will again get caked off with another signing bonus.
so while their business practices are shrewed and cold blooded, they won't scare off players or their agents and therefore, won't have any serious impact in their ability to put a competetive team on the floor. the only thing their business practices do is piss off fans. but as long as the stadium is full on sundays, the front office won't give a damn what the fans think.
We can only hope that their two starting recievers and star runningback decide to test free agency the same year their quarterback retires.
The perception that the Eagles are the only team that does it is also an incorrect one.
Quote from: reese125 on April 26, 2009, 08:18:10 PM
Rome just curious...if its happened a million times already what number around will it actually hurt the Eagles?
you dont have to answer
it bit them in the ass when barry gardner lost joe jurevicious across the middle in the 2003 nfc championship game?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 26, 2009, 10:03:23 PM
it bit them in the ass when barry gardner lost joe jurevicious across the middle in the 2003 nfc championship game?
That is a painful memory.
ive definitely had happier times in my life thats for sure...like the brian mitchell kick return for example
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 27, 2009, 02:23:17 AM
ive definitely had happier times in my life thats for sure...like the brian mitchell kick return for example
Are you talking about the same game...opening kickoff which led to a quick duce staley touchdown run up the middle?
The only other time I matched a howl was when DeSean caught the t.d. to go up for a moment in this past NFCCG
yup...loudest and craziest eagle stadium ive ever seen was after the mitchell return and ive been gping to bird games since the 80's...duce went like 20 yards on the next play for a td and it was like nothing happened compared to how the place was after the mitchell return...absolute bedlem
That game still pisses me off.
think ive said this on the board before but carolina is my own personal worst loss ever...i literally cried on the way home in the car which my girl to this day doesnt let me forget...but in a general sense and when taking into everything that came with it that tampa loss is arguably the worst in philly history for any sport
shtein, one of my 'good friends' decided to get married that day, the day of the Carolina game.
I didn't even get to channel my energy into that game.
May he one day rot in hell.
little did either of you know at the time he was doing you a tremendous favor
Yeah, but you know, I think I still would have wanted to witness my own death.
It's just weird to know that....the Eagles were in 5 NFC championship games in 9 seasons...missed one because of a potential zesty set of calls near the goal line and a false start in New Orleans.
I know almost doesn't count...but god damn.
My football load is going to bust like Hiroshima when this team decides to win one.
cue the "they are almost the bills" comment
I just can't wait until years and years from now when watching NFL films or something...and it starts with, "No other team in NFL History other than the Philadelphia Eagles (insert shameful statistic here)..."
december 26 of next year will be the 50 year aniversary
That Tampa game was the worst loss for me in sports. I was nauseous and numb leaving the Vet. I felt much better leaving the Linc the next year after they opened against TB and lost again. I didn't want to throw up nearly as much.
wait...are you saying a loss at the last game of a legendary stadium that if won would have put the eagles in the superbowl hurt more than a september game at the opening of a new stadium that we almost couldnt bring hoagies into and felt less real than sylvester stallones face during the national anthem
i dont believe you
To this day, I still don't know what the video of Ronde Barber running into the end zone looks like. After McNabb threw the pick, I jumped off my couch onto my stomach... and once he passed up McNabb into the open, I dropped my head onto the carpet and just laid there.
I got back up sometime around the time Sly was pumping his fists at the top of the Linc.
I went to my g/fs pad after the game looking for a sympathy bj, we wound up breaking up. To make matters worse the SB was in SD that year so I got to watch all the happy Bucs and Raiders fans parade around downtown SD all week.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 27, 2009, 06:50:57 AM
I went to my g/fs pad after the game looking for a sympathy bj, we wound up breaking up. To make matters worse the SB was in SD that year so I got to watch all the happy Bucs and Raiders fans parade around downtown SD all week.
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Hmm sounds very similar to my situation, only I didn't have to deal with the San Diego aspect. I went to the bar and got blacked out drunk and ended up going to my g/fs house looking for the same thing, we broke up a week or two after that.
So, you got the BJ and SD didn't.
Army 1, Navy 0.
Yeah I got more than that, but also had a complete meltdown because the Eagles lost. She got sick of my drunken antics and ditched my ass shortly after.
QuoteHobbs: "We're All Dollar Signs"
Posted by Mike Florio on April 27, 2009, 9:46 p.m.
In a Monday interview our pal Monty of Sporting News Radio's The Monty Show, Eagles cornerback Ellis Hobbs talked about the trade that sent the veteran cornerback to Philly for two fifth-round picks and a half-eaten pack of Nutter Butters.
"Everyone is expendable," Hobbs said. "At the end of the day we're all dollar signs. Moves need to be made, things need to be done and at the end of the day that's when you need to be professional about it and know that it's a business and gone on. Sometimes you don't fit into their program any more and like I said, unfortunately it was my time, but at the same time fortunately I can go to another team that wants me. Another man's trash is another man's treasure."
Hobbs also said that he expected that something was coming, but that he didn't know when.
"I was definitely surprised," Hobbs said. "I mean like I said I knew something was going to happen, I just didn't know when. You never know when and how, it's kind of like somebody that's about to die. You know they're going to die eventually but when it hits you it's kind of like a different impact."
Is he the starting KR in 09?
If Demps wins the starting safety spot then possibly. Otherwise they'll probably have both guys back there. Demps was pretty damn good last season so I don't see why you'd mess with that.
They'll probably have Maclin get in there and compete too.
Hobbs was pretty damn good last year too. I would imagine that it will be open tryouts to see who performs the best back there. Genuinely top notch kick return options, whodathunkit?
I'm having difficulty nailing down the 'problem spot' they fail to address but comes back to bite them in the ass. Two seasons ago it was punt returner, last season fullback. Maybe backup long snapper.
Quarterback.
But seriously, OL depth is definitely a concern. Linebacker could use some improvement as well.
The CB saga continues--especially a guy in the last yr of his rookie contract
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090901_Eagles_still_have_duel_at_cornerback.html
sheldon is over 30 with a contract issue. i'm still surprised he wasn't struck by jew lightning at lehigh.
Quote from: Rome on September 01, 2009, 06:11:40 PM
sheldon is over 30 with a contract issue. i'm still surprised he wasn't struck by jew lightning at lehigh.
HA!
Quote from: rjs246 on April 28, 2009, 06:58:58 AM
Hobbs was pretty damn good last year too. I would imagine that it will be open tryouts to see who performs the best back there. Genuinely top notch kick return options, whodathunkit?
I looked at Hobbs' stats after the Eagles got him. In yards per KO return, he's #1 among active players, and #5(t) all time in the NFL. Whodathunk
that?
done for the year
Quote from: phattymatty on November 11, 2009, 11:49:51 AM
done for the year
More info:
Quote
Ellis Hobbs will miss the season
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 11, 2009 11:59 AM ET
Acquired for a pair of fifth-round draft picks on draft day, Ellis Hobbs was fitting in pretty well as a Philadelphia Eagle. He was usually the team's nickel back and gained the the primary kick return job during the season.
Hobbs' season is now suddenly over because of a neck injury suffered Sunday night against the Cowboys. The team announced Wednesday that Hobbs will be placed on injured reserve.
Rookie wideout Jeremy Maclin took over for Hobbs on returns Sunday, and is likely to get more work there. Joselio Hanson should get more consistent playing time at cornerback with Hobbs out.
Most famous for giving up the game-winning touchdown to Plaxico Burress in the Super Bowl, Hobbs will bring 47 games of starting experience to free agency next year. (And plenty of quotes for the collection of reporters that cover him.) The Eagles could bring him back as a restricted free agent if there is no new collective bargaining agreement.
great timing...
QuoteMysterious absence coming for Joselio Hanson
Posted by Mike Florio on November 11, 2009 1:33 PM ET
On the same day that the Eagles lost cornerback Ellis Hobbs for the rest of the season, a report has surfaced that cornerback Joselio Hanson could be gone for roughly a month.
Per DelawareOnline.com, Hanson will be out for unspecified reasons.
"I'm just going to say that the NFL don't treat players the same," Hanson told Geoff Mosher of DelawareOnline.com via text message.
Bottom line? It looks like a four-game suspension under the substance-abuse policy or the policy regarding anabolic steroids and related substances.
Get Matt Ware.
Quote from: phattymatty on November 11, 2009, 01:38:00 PM
great timing...
QuoteMysterious absence coming for Joselio Hanson
Posted by Mike Florio on November 11, 2009 1:33 PM ET
On the same day that the Eagles lost cornerback Ellis Hobbs for the rest of the season, a report has surfaced that cornerback Joselio Hanson could be gone for roughly a month.
Per DelawareOnline.com, Hanson will be out for unspecified reasons.
"I'm just going to say that the NFL don't treat players the same," Hanson told Geoff Mosher of DelawareOnline.com via text message.
Bottom line? It looks like a four-game suspension under the substance-abuse policy or the policy regarding anabolic steroids and related substances.
his junk is on roids
man what a gm we have.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/11/11/eagles.ap/index.html
Suspended....but the injury to Hobbs is far more concerning!
So are we all in agreement that the Eagles need to spend some hig draft picks on CBs this year?
Trevard Lindley and Jorrick Calvin did a nice job being deactivated last night. The corners are fine.
i'd rather see a strong safety to replace mikell, he stinks.
Mikell sucks no doubt, but CB is a much more important position and it makes me farging nervous trotting Patterson out there to start every week. I mean, if this team makes the playoffs, the Green Bay and New Orleans WRs will eat them alive.
that would be disgusting, and have nothing to do with football
Patterson was pretty good last night. I saw Hanson and Mikell get burned, but not Patterson.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 22, 2010, 12:31:12 PM
Patterson was pretty good last night. I saw Hanson and Mikell get burned, but not Patterson.
He has been solid in all of his starts.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 22, 2010, 12:29:40 PM
Mikell sucks no doubt, but CB is a much more important position and it makes me farging nervous trotting Patterson out there to start every week. I mean, if this team makes the playoffs, the Green Bay and New Orleans WRs will eat them alive.
Patterson shut down Reggie Wayne
I'm sorry, are you guys telling me that Dmitri Patterson is the answer at CB? Because I could swear that that is where you're going with this.
he didn't shut him down. he didn't let him score though.
wayne had 11 catches.
DGunn says Hobbs is done for the season
Quote from: rjs246 on November 22, 2010, 12:52:44 PM
I'm sorry, are you guys telling me that Dmitri Patterson is the answer at CB? Because I could swear that that is where you're going with this.
why cant he be? was michael vick the answer at qb? the two are quite different but you see that even the unlikely can be successful.
Patterson appears to be playing extremely well because Ellis Hobbs was playing extremely bad. Patterson looks like a decent player and I guess he could develop into a quality starter one day but he ain't there yet.
11 catches for 83 yards, very few of which came after the catch (I don't know where to find a receivers YAC for a given game). And not all 11 of those catches were against Patterson.
I'm not saying he's the next Eric Allen, but he's surprisingly done a good job since he's been starting. CB still should be addressed in the offseason but SS should also be a higher priority
He's done surprisingly good for a guy who should be in the UFL.
Hobbs officially IR'd. Probably a career ender.
He even made the feature article on NYTime.com, replete with picture of his lifeless form on the turf.
Probably best for him to hang it up anyway.
This barely even qualifies as news since Patterson is THE TRUTH.
Patterson is the next Eric Allen
Quote from: rjs246 on November 24, 2010, 09:08:05 AM
This barely even qualifies as news since Patterson is THE TRUTH.
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 24, 2010, 10:20:06 AM
Patterson is the next Eric Allen
These comments don't even do him justice. Aim higher.
Dick Night Train Lane?
leaning toward retirement.
All that leaning can't be good for his neckspine.
DGunn interviewed him on Sportsrise this morning, he says he hasn't made a concrete decision. I really don't care, he needs to be replaced either way.
I'd rather have him returning kicks than Calvin, but you're right...Hobbs can go
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20101218..._toy_store.html
QuoteTHE PHILADELPHIA Eagles have a secret Santa on their team - and, no, it's not Andy Reid.
While Big Red might have the right physique to play the Big Red Guy, it turns out injured cornerback Ellis Hobbs is the Eagle most likely to be mistaken for Jolly Old St. Nick.
Hobbs, 27, stepped into a South Philadelphia Toys "R" Us yesterday afternoon, smack in the middle of one of those manic Christmas-is-just-a-week-away sales.
No one noticed that an Eagle had landed. There were no cheerleaders flipping through the store, no public-relations handlers handing out photos, no sign even of Swoop, the mascot.
The stage was set for an entirely unremarkable tale. But then Hobbs did something wonderful, something that would make even Ebenezer Scrooge hoot, "God bless us, everyone!"
He approached Jennifer Santoro, who was waiting in line to buy about a hundred bucks worth of toys for her 6-year-old son. With little more than a wink and a touch of his nose, Hobbs offered to pay for her toys.
Santoro, 34, blinked. The first word that came to mind, she said, was "scam," not Santa.
"He said, 'Excuse me miss, I'm Ellis Hobbs from the Philadelphia Eagles. Would you mind if I purchased those toys for you?' " said Santoro, a manager at the Conestoga Bank, on Passyunk Avenue near Moore Street.
"I think I said, 'Get the hell out of here. Why? Are you for real?' I asked for his I.D. I thought it was some kind of scam," she said.
The married father of two explained that he was fortunate to be in a position to make someone else's holiday a little brighter.
Santoro, who was picking up Wii games along with Spider-Man and Iron Man toys for her son, Stephen, finally relented.
"I was literally down to my last hundred dollars for presents. It was so awesome, what he did," she said.
Hobbs kept on playing Santa, too. Santoro said he paid for toys that the woman behind her in line was about to purchase, and might have spread even more holiday cheer after that.
No one knows for sure; Hobbs didn't want to talk about his visit to the Toys "R" Us because he didn't want to make it seem as if he was seeking publicity, said Eagles spokesman Derek Boyko.
Boyko confirmed that Hobbs paid for the toys at the store, on Oregon Avenue near 3rd Street.
Santoro said she was struck all the more by Hobbs' kindness when she went back to work and looked him up on Google.
She learned that he has been haunted by the Grinchlike specter of serious injury ever since he was traded to the Eagles from the New England Patriots in 2009.
He suffered a season-ending neck injury midway through his first season, playing mainly as the team's kick returner.
Any hope of a big rebound season went down the drain on Nov. 21, when Hobbs suffered another season-ending neck injury while returning a kick against the New York Giants. It's unclear if he'll ever play in the NFL again.
"I felt really bad when I read that about him," said Santoro, who lives in South Philly. "If I saw him again, I wouldn't ask for his I.D. I would probably hug him!
"He really wanted to help other people," she said. "Do you ever hear a good story like that?"
Yes, Virginia . . .
Nice story. :yay