can we have Shurmur back? (http://www.arklatexsports.com/news/Doug-Pederson-Heads-Back-to-the-NFL-24508/)
As long as Doug isn't putting on a uniform, who cares?
Hopefully he won't get spat upon again.
Can he grow a mustache?
Great news for the throngs who have Pederson jerseys.
Conspiracy time. Pederson is only here to tutor Kolb for when he takes over in 2010.
and I couldnt think of a better mentor than Doug Pederson
Can we call him Kevvy Fresh??
great teach the kid how to be a below average qb :boo :puke
I might be stupid for asking this, but I honestly don't remember, is Dougy Fresh a Mormon?
Quote from: phillymic2000 on January 28, 2009, 02:33:59 PM
great teach the kid how to be a below average qb :boo :puke
From what I remember, Dougie lacked the physical tools, not the smarts. IIRC when he moved to Cleveland, and the Eagles played them, the Eagles defense got embarassed in a way that has only been done to them by Manning. And it turned out it was Dougie who was pretty much responsible for the whole offensive game plan of the Browns.
Mind you also that it is a general rule (almost a law) that middle of the pack (or below) players usually make fare better coaches than former stand-outs, especially when they have to coach those not of the once-in-a-decade-natural-talent types. A rule that seems to go for any sport.
Quote from: DutchBird on January 31, 2009, 06:32:28 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on January 28, 2009, 02:33:59 PM
great teach the kid how to be a below average qb :boo :puke
From what I remember, Dougie lacked the physical tools, not the smarts. IIRC when he moved to Cleveland, and the Eagles played them, the Eagles defense got embarassed in a way that has only been done to them by Manning. And it turned out it was Dougie who was pretty much responsible for the whole offensive game plan of the Browns.
Mind you also that it is a general rule (almost a law) that middle of the pack (or below) players usually make fare better coaches than former stand-outs, especially when they have to coach those not of the once-in-a-decade-natural-talent types. A rule that seems to go for any sport.
You got that right Katzenjammer!
By the way, is this how you wear your hair?
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Quote from: stalker on January 31, 2009, 11:41:50 AM
Quote from: DutchBird on January 31, 2009, 06:32:28 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on January 28, 2009, 02:33:59 PM
great teach the kid how to be a below average qb :boo :puke
From what I remember, Dougie lacked the physical tools, not the smarts. IIRC when he moved to Cleveland, and the Eagles played them, the Eagles defense got embarassed in a way that has only been done to them by Manning. And it turned out it was Dougie who was pretty much responsible for the whole offensive game plan of the Browns.
Mind you also that it is a general rule (almost a law) that middle of the pack (or below) players usually make fare better coaches than former stand-outs, especially when they have to coach those not of the once-in-a-decade-natural-talent types. A rule that seems to go for any sport.
You got that right Katzenjammer!
By the way, is this how you wear your hair?
(http://undomesticmama.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/07/dutch_boy_2.gif)
WTF is this all about?
Just ignore that farghead.
Anyone hear on 610 that the birds want to bring back Gruden to be the OC? I'd do it
Quote from: DutchBird on January 31, 2009, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: stalker on January 31, 2009, 11:41:50 AM
Quote from: DutchBird on January 31, 2009, 06:32:28 AM
Quote from: phillymic2000 on January 28, 2009, 02:33:59 PM
great teach the kid how to be a below average qb :boo :puke
From what I remember, Dougie lacked the physical tools, not the smarts. IIRC when he moved to Cleveland, and the Eagles played them, the Eagles defense got embarassed in a way that has only been done to them by Manning. And it turned out it was Dougie who was pretty much responsible for the whole offensive game plan of the Browns.
Mind you also that it is a general rule (almost a law) that middle of the pack (or below) players usually make fare better coaches than former stand-outs, especially when they have to coach those not of the once-in-a-decade-natural-talent types. A rule that seems to go for any sport.
You got that right Katzenjammer!
By the way, is this how you wear your hair?
(http://undomesticmama.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/07/dutch_boy_2.gif)
WTF is this all about?
Just joking around Scott Hamel, I am Native American so I have a great hatred for the Dutch.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 31, 2009, 04:24:11 PM
Anyone hear on 610 that the birds want to bring back Gruden to be the OC? I'd do it
That sounds like imaginary horseshtein but of course I'd do it.
Why in the world would Gruden do that? I mean he can get a head coaching job easily so I think he would rather sit out a year and either get a good college job or one of 10 or so head coach positions available next yr in the NFL.
Besides Reid would never sacrifice his boy Marty and demote him.
Gruden is Barry Switzer with a better publicist. I don't want him or his stupid faces anywhere near this team again. The guy bitches about specific players more than I do.
He is better than Marty though. And I think he has enough of a backbone that if he was on this staff he would not just simply follow Reid's crazy offensive philosophy. And that is exactly why he would never be considered even if he wanted to do this. And he doesn't. I don't even know how this started? Who mentioned it on WIP? A caller?
Quote from: General_Failure on January 31, 2009, 06:55:08 PM
Gruden is Barry Switzer with a better publicist.
this is why you should never talk football again
Did he, or did he not, win a superbowl with a pre-built team, then proceed to do nothing for the rest of his time in that city?
Switzer took a dynastic team at the end of its roll and basically stood there looking stupid while the Hall of Famers on the field took care of business for the third time.
Gruden, on the other hand, took a team of losers who couldn't win a road game with the air temperature under 40 degrees and led them to a Super Bowl win, and he beat the team he had coached just the year before in the same game.
I'll agree that the shine is off Gruden's apple, but comparing him to a meathead like Barry Switzer is ridiculous, dude.
Regardless, Gruden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Morningwood.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 31, 2009, 07:50:18 PM
Did he, or did he not, win a superbowl with a pre-built team, then proceed to do nothing for the rest of his time in that city?
what romey said
im not putting gruden on a pedastal but to compare him to switzer is completely retarded
I actually think Gruden is not that great of a coach. In fact he might best as a coordinator but his attitude is exactly why he would never be brought here. Al though according to reports from players in Tampa Bay he likes to get into fights with players and even belittle them if they get hurt.
Marty is not going anywhere unless he is somehow magically offered a Head Coach job. Only way that happens is if this team somehow wins the Superbowl.
So basically MM is here to stay as long as Reid is here.
At this point in his career I think Gruden would rather be a high school HC than an NFL OC.
Quote from: General_Failure on January 31, 2009, 06:55:08 PM
Gruden is Barry Switzer with a better publicist. I don't want him or his stupid faces anywhere near this team again. The guy bitches about specific players more than I do.
Agreed. I have never understood the love affair with Gruden. He's highly overrated. He hates young players, he hates developing young QBs (as evidenced by his starting QBs; Gannon, Johnson, Garcia, Griese, etc) and his offense is restrictive and archaic.
Remember all the dink and dunk bitching about Andy the first few years? Bring Gruden in and watch those down field passes go bye-bye.
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Gruden > Fat boy.
Pederson ='s rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...
Quote from: JackStraw on February 01, 2009, 03:22:10 PM
Pederson ='s rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic...
:-D :-D :-D
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Gruden > Fat boy.
theres no question that if gruden is the eagles coach over the last decade that they have at least one lombardi
i love the people that say he won with dungys team yet dont mention how he beat his own team in that superbowl...hi haterz
hes not chuck knoll or joe gibbs but again to compare him to switzer is just laughable
He won the Super Bowl with an inherited defense that beat up the offense he constructed in Oakland.
He also did nothing since because the so called offensive genius could not find a QB, which should be a alarm for ppl who think good QBs are just available all the time, and constantly had one of the worst offenses in the league.
Still with this team here in Philly, with this defense, and this QB he probably could have won at least 1 SB and thats 1 more than Reid ever will.
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Gruden > Fat boy.
theres no question that if gruden is the eagles coach over the last decade that they have at least one lombardi
i love the people that say he won with dungys team yet dont mention how he beat his own team in that superbowl...hi haterz
hes not chuck knoll or joe gibbs but again to compare him to switzer is just laughable
He's not Switzer because Switzer was an oaf. A true figure-head who contributed nothing and rode Johnon's coattails.
Gruden did beat his own team. But his offensive philosophy is poor (more dink and dunking than the Eagles ever did under Reid), he does not like young players, and more so he will not play a young QB nor does he have interests in developing young QBs.
The young QB thing means nothing here because McNabb should have at least 4 ore seasons here. But eventually he will have to groom one, and that will not happen. We'd see a revolving door of old washed up people like the Brad Johnson's, Jeff Garcia's and Brian Griese's of the world.
He is overrated.
yet he was more superbowls than your coach will ever win
take the homer blinders off jayjay
Which brings us back to Barry Switzer.
that doofus has more rings than reid ever will, too. it doesnt make it right, but at least he won it.
Stevie Wonder could have coached Switzers team to a Superbowl.
Since he doesn't have a ring, we can't put Stevie on a pedestal with Gruden, Billick, and Switzer.
Switzer did what he was supposed to do. Stay out of the way. If Reid took over for Johnson with that Dallas team he would have insisted on making Aikman pass 65% of the time and ignore Emmit out of the backfield.
Switzer may suck but he was smart enough to know what he should not do.