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Title: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 31, 2008, 10:01:37 AM
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/20081231_Eagles_Notes___Dawkins_and_Clemons_lauded.html

The article mentions that he may be up for a job in Detoit, Kansas City and now Denver.

Oh, and Andy is only one of two HCs who have final personnel say along with Belichick.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on December 31, 2008, 10:10:08 AM
rosemans promotion spelled the end of heckert
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Butchers Bill on December 31, 2008, 10:16:08 AM
I wish the Henry Rollins look-a-like the best.

With Reid making the final decisions anyway, what was Heckerts job on draft day?  Making sure the buffet was stocked?
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Zanshin on December 31, 2008, 10:19:01 AM
I'm not sure where all the interest in him comes from.  Seems fairly competent, but thoroughly unspectacular.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 31, 2008, 10:23:35 AM
Sounds like most of the GM's in the league to me.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Magical_Retard on December 31, 2008, 10:58:40 AM
I think teams look at the Eagles and look at their success and attribute it to him.

Good take him. The Eagles have more accountants in line anyway.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 02, 2009, 09:52:21 PM
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-spspags0212323851jan02a,0,6881351.story

Denver apparently is interested in a Spags/Heckert coaching & GM package.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Cerevant on January 03, 2009, 05:40:32 AM
Let's compromise...make it  Spads/Heckert and they can have them.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on January 03, 2009, 08:37:20 AM
See ya Tom, thanks for the mediocre drafts. FF will miss ya.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 03, 2009, 12:08:53 PM
Maybe he will bring Ashley Lelie back to Denver.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Rome on January 03, 2009, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 31, 2008, 10:16:08 AM
Making sure the buffet was stocked?

Already taken care of...

(http://www.pasigndesign.com/images/luke_with_andy_reid.jpg)
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: rjs246 on January 03, 2009, 04:22:39 PM
I seriously have no idea what to say about that picture. I'm laughing uncomfortably at it right now.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: General_Failure on January 03, 2009, 04:44:35 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 03, 2009, 04:22:39 PM
I seriously have no idea what to say about that picture.

Allow me. Ahem.


"What, they couldn't fit it in a doggie bag. Autistic baby is expensive, I'm not going to waste all that money."
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2009, 11:35:06 AM
QuoteHECKERT EMERGES AS CANDIDATE FOR BROWNS JOB
Posted by Mike Florio on January 7, 2009, 9:04 a.m.

Eagles G.M. Tom Heckert technically doesn't fit the official NFL anti-tampering policy definition of the term "General Manager" because he doesn't have final say over the Eagles' draft, or the team's 53-man roster.

But he possibly could be getting such authority in Cleveland.

According to the Philadelphia Inquirer, the Browns have requested permission to interview Heckert.  The man who previously held the title, Phil Savage, had final say over the roster and the draft.

Under a new procedure adopted by the league in October 2008, a non-high-level front-office employee of a team still alive in the playoffs may interview for high-level jobs with other teams, but only with the permission of his current employer.

In other words, the Eagles can tell the Browns to get bent, at least until the Eagles get beat.

Philly also block the move if the new job doesn't entail control of the draft or authority over the roster.  Coach Andy Reid possesses "final say" with the Eagles.

Heckert's standing in Philadelphia isn't clear.  When the Vikings came sniffing around three years ago, he scored a promotion to G.M.  Last year, however, the Eagles seemed to be anxious to move on, with owner Jeffrey Lurie personally recommending Heckert to Falcons owner Arthur Blank for the G.M. job in Atlanta.  (Former Patriots director of college scouting Thomas Dimitroff eventually was hired over Heckert.)

Since then, the team promoted Howie Roseman to the position of V.P. of player personnel, and there's a loose sense in some league circles that Roseman is the real No. 2 man behind Reid.

Most recently, rumors and speculation had linked Heckert to the Lions.  But it recently was reported that Heckert has no interest in joining the team.

As Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer points out, Heckert's candidacy in Cleveland could be evidence of a potential pairing with Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo, a former Eagles defensive assistant.

Thus, "Spagert" could end up being an alternative to what one league source has described to us as "Mankok" – the possible joint hire of coach Eric Mangini and G.M. George Kokinis. 
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
in the future when you post articles having to do with the eagles PP dept could you please delete any and all references to howie roseman
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: phattymatty on January 07, 2009, 11:42:19 AM
what a great picture. 
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 07, 2009, 11:43:00 AM
(http://assets.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/front_office/headshots/thumbs/47.jpg)

Howie says; "Hi Havas!"
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 07, 2009, 12:15:29 PM
die

but before you do please kill reece for me
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: reese125 on January 07, 2009, 12:33:51 PM
dont hate me because Im beautiful
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 08, 2009, 01:44:34 PM
according to wip heckert is out of the browns gm job mix
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 08, 2009, 01:48:14 PM
That is probably good for Heckert and meaningless for the Eagles.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 08, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
they didnt say this but im guessing that mangini wil going to have a decent sized chunk of the say in PP and heckert is not allowed leave for any job that doesnt give him 100% final say on all PP matters
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: fansince61 on January 08, 2009, 02:28:52 PM
The Lions have been in so much trouble for so long they should be treated like an expansion team and the owners put on some type of probationary leadership.  FARG.. the NFL is a monopoly and the Lions Owners aren't pulling there wt. ...FREE the LIONS..Farg'm the leaders first.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 08, 2009, 03:01:33 PM
We were talking about the Browns, but whatever.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: hbionic on January 08, 2009, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: phattymatty on January 07, 2009, 11:42:19 AM
what a great picture. 

Is that Reids kid?
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: MDS on January 08, 2009, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 03, 2009, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on December 31, 2008, 10:16:08 AM
Making sure the buffet was stocked?

Already taken care of...

(http://www.pasigndesign.com/images/luke_with_andy_reid.jpg)

haha i died laughing
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 08, 2009, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2009, 01:51:43 PM
they didnt say this but im guessing that mangini wil going to have a decent sized chunk of the say in PP and heckert is not allowed leave for any job that doesnt give him 100% final say on all PP matters

You're almost correct. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3818623)

It sounds like Heckert pulled his name.  Maybe the Eagles made him.  Whatever.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 10, 2009, 07:57:53 AM
Eagles post vacancy for Salary Cap Administrator:

Apply Today! (http://footballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=22603)
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on January 10, 2009, 08:08:07 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 10, 2009, 07:57:53 AM
Eagles post vacancy for Salary Cap Administrator:

Apply Today! (http://footballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=22603)

I'm dead serious if I had 20 more credits I'd apply for that job.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Rome on January 10, 2009, 08:14:51 AM
I applied.  In the comments section I did say I wouldn't work for Heebs, though, so...
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on January 10, 2009, 08:25:32 AM
I'm surprised they didn't hire you on the spot
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 10, 2009, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 10, 2009, 08:08:07 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 10, 2009, 07:57:53 AM
Eagles post vacancy for Salary Cap Administrator:

Apply Today! (http://footballjobs.teamworkonline.com/teamwork/r.cfm?i=22603)

I'm dead serious if I had 20 more credits I'd apply for that job.

I may apply for the shtein of it.  Hell, if it pays well enough, it would be a more constructive use of my obsession with the Eagles.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 11, 2009, 10:56:49 AM
Not Heckert related but still important...


QuoteSURPRISE CANDIDATE FOR PACKERS DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR JOB
Posted by Mike Florio on January 11, 2009, 7:50 a.m.

At a time when it appears that the next defensive coordinator in Green Bay will be former 49ers head coach Mike Nolan or former Jaguars defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that there's another candidate for the job.

Eagles secondary coach Sean McDermott, per Schefter, is also a leading candidate for the position.

McDermott replaced John Harbaugh who parlayed one year in that position (and several more as special teams coach) into the Ravens head-coaching job.  The prior year, McDermott worked for a season as the replacement at linebackers coach to current Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo.

In all, McDermott has been with the Eagles since 1998.

If McDermott is still under contract with Philly, the Eagles could block the move.  If his contract is expiring after the current season ends, he's free to go.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: SunMo on January 11, 2009, 11:02:53 AM
they can't block the move if it's an upwards move, secondary coach to d-coordinator is certainly that
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Feva on January 11, 2009, 11:04:24 AM
Eagles secondary coach ------> Packers D coordinator = Lateral move/demotion
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: SunMo on January 11, 2009, 11:05:32 AM
ha, but he'll have Al Harris to work with.  that's almost as good as any head coaching job in the league
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2009, 02:17:19 PM
http://profootball.scout.com/2/831969.html

Adam Caplan reporting that Shurmur will leave and be Spags' OC in STL.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2009, 02:20:17 PM
Fine with me.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: stalker on January 20, 2009, 04:05:04 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 10, 2009, 08:14:51 AM
I applied.  In the comments section I did say I wouldn't work for Heebs, though, so...

Don't you call me a racist?
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 20, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
If he did, he'd be correct.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 23, 2009, 08:06:58 AM
looks like heckert is done....per wip he didnt go to the senior bowl
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 23, 2009, 09:21:27 AM
Scapegoat?  Maybe.  But new blood in the personnel department wouldn't hurt.

That said, they'll probably just promote Howie Roseman.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 23, 2009, 09:32:28 AM
howie rosemen IS the new blood...with two number one picks this year the timing couldnt be better for a PP shake up and an accountant GM
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: DH on January 23, 2009, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: SunMo on January 11, 2009, 11:05:32 AM
ha, but he'll have Al Harris to work with.  that's almost as good as any head coaching job in the league

i know your not talkin shtein about al
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 23, 2009, 11:24:00 AM
Did they say why he was not there?
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on January 23, 2009, 11:26:35 AM
He was banged up for most of the season.  I think he had some combination of back/thigh/groin/scrotum injuries.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: BigEd76 on January 23, 2009, 05:52:54 PM
Spadaro's explanation:

QuoteHowie runs the organization of the college scouting department and he was there with the college scouts to see what has been described by the experts as a weak group in Alabama. Tom is here, working. It's a big off-season ahead, and he and the coaches stayed here to catch up on some things after the game in Arizona.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on January 24, 2009, 06:59:58 AM
Last years draft day trade just keeps getting worse...that's not the first time I've heard this is a weak ass draft.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Magical_Retard on January 24, 2009, 08:50:44 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 24, 2009, 06:59:58 AM
Last years draft day trade just keeps getting worse...that's not the first time I've heard this is a weak ass draft.

Only further justifies them trading out of the first round 2 times this year!
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 24, 2009, 10:55:45 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 23, 2009, 05:52:54 PM
QuoteHowie runs the organization of the college scouting department.


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Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 30, 2009, 01:16:35 PM
other people on the move

Quote
In the wake of Pat Shurmur's move to St. Louis to become the offensive coordinator, Mark Whipple's move to the University of Miami to become the offensive coordinator there, and the decision of excellent defensive line coach Pete Jenkins to retire from the NFL, the Eagles have announced a handful of changes to their staff. Reid has spent some of his last couple of weeks interviewing outside prospects, considering internal coaches for promotion and continuing the evaluation of his football team. The coaching changes, then, are as follows:

* Pete Jenkins, the defensive line coach the last three seasons, has retired after 37 years of coaching, 34 in the collegiate ranks and three with the Eagles. Special teams coordinator Rory Segrest, who helped Jenkins with the defensive line in that time, is now the defensive line coach on a full-time basis. Said Reid of Jenkins: "Pete had three phenomenal years here. He had big shoes to fill after Tommy Brasher retired, and Pete came in and did a heck of a job with our defensive line. He is leaving here with a better defensive line than was here when he arrived and that is always a tribute to the coach."

Said Reid of Segrest: "Rory did a nice job with special teams, but his first love is the defensive line. When he came here, he was also the assistant defensive line coach, so he continued to work with the defensive line even when he was the special teams coordinator. This allows him to step in and work with the players, who have a familiar face and familiar techniques and schemes to work with."

* James Urban, an offensive assistant/quality control coach the last two seasons, becomes the team's quarterbacks coach, replacing Shurmur. Said Reid of Urban: "James is a good, young coach. He demonstrated that as a quality control coach. He is very efficient and we felt he had put himself in a position, having worked with offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg, to be elevated to that spot."

* Ted Daisher, the assistant special teams coach under John Harbaugh in 2004-2005 and then the special teams coordinator in Oakland and Cleveland since, has returned to assume the role of special teams coordinator here. "Ted broke into the league with us, so I have had the chance to see him coach," said Reid. "Then he moved on and had success in Oakland and for the last couple of years in Cleveland. I had the chance to interview a few guys, and Ted did a great job. Ted became the obvious choice to fill this role."

* Former NFL quarterback Doug Pederson, Reid's starting quarterback in 1999 who introduced the rest of the offense to the West Coast scheme, joins the team as an offensive assistant/quality control coach. Pederson began his NFL career in 1991 with Miami, and then bounced around and played with Green Bay, Philadelphia and Cleveland before finishing his NFL career with the Packers in 2004. Since then, Pederson has been a highly-successful coach at the high school level.

"He has a great ability to share ideas with people," said Reid. "I thought Doug did a tremendous job working with Donovan McNabb when Donovan was a rookie learning the system. Doug helped explain the offense to him from a player's standpoint. Doug started up a high school program in Louisiana and did an outstanding job there. He has a nice feel for coaching."

* Wide receivers coach David Culley's role in the offensive game-planning and implementation of the passing game will increase.

"David's role in the offense will increase with Pat moving on," said Reid.


Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Magical_Retard on January 30, 2009, 02:23:53 PM
So they brought no one in from the outside, except for guys who used to be on the staff...moved on and did not do much so Reid took them back.

Brilliant!
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 30, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
How the farg is Rory the DL coach?  He'll surely farg that up
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: QB Eagles on January 30, 2009, 03:12:44 PM
At least he won't be farging up special teams anymore.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Rome on January 30, 2009, 03:35:29 PM
Pedersen's being brought in to groom KOLOLB the way he groomed pukey boy.

Super.  Bowl.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: General_Failure on January 30, 2009, 03:38:46 PM
I'm just excited that we can squeeze the Charmin again.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 30, 2009, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 30, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
How the farg is Rory the DL coach?  He'll surely farg that up

that was the first thing that jumped out at me...at least they dont have an accounts receivable guy doing their scouting at the senior bowl or anything
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Feva on January 31, 2009, 09:00:37 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 30, 2009, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 30, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
How the farg is Rory the DL coach?  He'll surely farg that up

that was the first thing that jumped out at me...at least they dont have an accounts receivable guy doing their scouting at the senior bowl or anything

I sure as hell don't like David Culley getting any more game-planning responsibilities either.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: stalker on January 31, 2009, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 30, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
How the farg is Rory the DL coach?  He'll surely farg that up

What makes you think that. More than technique these guys are coaching assignments. If you are a football guy, you didn't have to play the position to coach assignment.

Quote from: EagleFeva on January 31, 2009, 09:00:37 AM


I sure as hell don't like David Culley getting any more game-planning responsibilities either.

Why?
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 31, 2009, 04:24:37 PM
Quote from: stalker on January 31, 2009, 11:40:19 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 30, 2009, 03:10:43 PM
How the farg is Rory the DL coach?  He'll surely farg that up

What makes you think that. More than technique these guys are coaching assignments. If you are a football guy, you didn't have to play the position to coach assignment.

Quote from: EagleFeva on January 31, 2009, 09:00:37 AM


I sure as hell don't like David Culley getting any more game-planning responsibilities either.

Why?
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Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: shorebird on January 31, 2009, 11:05:31 PM
^ :-D :-D :-D^

Looks like Eric Kartman in real life.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on February 20, 2009, 04:58:29 PM
Quote
The Eagles yesterday announced that Andrew Brandt, a former Green Bay Packers vice president, has been hired as a consultant in the areas of player contract negotiations and salary cap management.
Brandt now lives in Philadelphia and is teaching a sports law class at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business. He also founded the football Web site, nationalfootballpost.com.

Brandt will assist team president Joe Banner in negotiations and salary-cap matters at least through August. He is replacing Howie Roseman, who is shifting to the personnel side of football operations.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Eagaholic on February 20, 2009, 05:12:43 PM
 FO until fairly recently had somebody listed on their website under the job heading of "capologist." I don't remember his name but apparently he's gone, so maybe this guy is also taking some of that work.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on February 21, 2009, 07:22:44 AM
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 20, 2009, 05:12:43 PM
FO until fairly recently had somebody listed on their website under the job heading of "capologist." I don't remember his name but apparently he's gone.

hes not gone hes the new defensive coordinator
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Rome on February 21, 2009, 08:22:31 AM
ha
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on February 21, 2009, 09:58:55 AM
I didn't get called back for the Salary Cap Admin position.  I think my salary requirements were a little high.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on February 21, 2009, 10:00:38 AM
you have to lower your demands in these tough economic times altho you probably know way to much abut the position for the eagles to hire you anyway
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on February 21, 2009, 10:01:21 AM
Jeff Lurie's porfolio is hurting and needs love.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 20, 2009, 01:50:44 PM
QuoteAdam Schefter reported on his twitter that there is 3 candidates linked to Seattle GM job, Arizona's Steve Keim, San Diego's Jimmy Raye and Philadelphia's Tom Heckert.

Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on January 08, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
Quote
Heckert expected to join the Browns soon
Posted by Mike Florio on January 8, 2010 4:44 PM ET
In a move that won't surprise many, Eagles G.M. Tom Heckert is expected to soon join the Browns in the same role.  Per multiple reports, Heckert interviewed for the job earlier this week.

The move, on the surface, is a bit surprising.  Since Holmgren has final say in Cleveland, final say can't be given to Heckert, and thus the Eagles can block the move.

But the Eagles are willing to let Heckert walk.  By all appearances, they'd let Heckert leave even before the team's season ends, assuming the Eagles beat the Cowboys on Saturday night.

Making the stance less curious is the reality that Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie recommended Heckert to the Falcons two years ago for the G.M. job.

Last year, Heckert was a candidate to be hired by the Browns for the same position.  The thinking was that he'd get the job as part of a package deal including then-Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo as head coach.

Though the Heckert has never been on the hot seat in Philly, there's a perception that the team has a few too many chefs, given the ascension of Howie Roseman to the position of V.P. of player personnel, which caused many to believe that Roseman is the true No. 2 behind coach Andy Reid.  So it makes sense for the Eagles to thin out the front office a bit, which explains why Lurie recommended Heckert to the Falcons in 2008.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: The BIGSTUD on January 08, 2010, 04:59:05 PM
If Heckert leaves and Roseman takes his job it will be an absolute disgrace. He's a farging accountant.

Get a real personnel guy in here.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 08, 2010, 05:02:12 PM
(http://profilessports.com/images/80x80/Howie-Roseman.jpg)
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Rome on January 08, 2010, 05:29:43 PM
Quote from: King Cole on January 08, 2010, 04:59:05 PM
If Heckert leaves and Roseman takes his job it will be an absolute disgrace. He's a farging accountant.

Get a real personnel guy in here.

Banner's a bean counter too.
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on January 08, 2010, 06:09:03 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 08, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 08, 2010, 05:29:43 PM
Quote from: King Cole on January 08, 2010, 04:59:05 PM
If Heckert leaves and Roseman takes his job it will be an absolute disgrace. He's a farging accountant.

Get a real personnel guy in here.

Banner's a bean counter too.

banner's primary function is to do just that.....manage the cap.  the problem is that for whatever reason, lurie thinks that qualifies him to determine a player's value. 
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 08, 2010, 06:53:27 PM
banner also has never had anything to do with scouting or player development (btw either has roseman)

Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: MDS on January 08, 2010, 06:57:15 PM
banner also is a disgrace to humanity
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Rome on January 08, 2010, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2010, 06:53:27 PMbanner also has never had anything to do with scouting or player development (btw either has roseman)

which makes his inclusion in decision on what to pay them all the more galling.

Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: ice grillin you on January 08, 2010, 08:20:31 PM
agreed...the difference is roseman will have his hands on literally hundreds of players a year where as banners fingerprint is on one or two a year
Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Sgt PSN on January 08, 2010, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 08, 2010, 08:12:20 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 08, 2010, 06:53:27 PMbanner also has never had anything to do with scouting or player development (btw either has roseman)

which makes his inclusion in decision on what to pay them all the more galling.

it's borderline unseemly

Title: Re: Heckert On The Move?
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on January 09, 2010, 11:51:33 AM
They still have the guy from the Patriots in there right?  Just checked, guess he did leave.  They're farged when Howie is in charge of player Personnel
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