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Title: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:28:04 AM
Rather than bouncing between three or four other threads.

I don't know what the consensus is in the press and with the talking heads on teevee.  I've read today's Inky articles.  Some seem to support Reid--or they at least avoid criticizing him--such as Bob Ford (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/bob_ford/20081124_Bob_Ford__Eagles__McNabb_is_toast.html) and Ashley Fox (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/ashley_fox/20081124_Ashley_Fox___Reid_chose_Kolb_and_should_stick_with_him.html).  Phil Sheriden on the other hand gets closer to the mark and thinks Reid should be ashamed of himself (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/34964939.html). 


Mike Preston from the Baltimore Sun thinks this might be the end of Reid (little does he know Lurie, obviously):

QuoteThe only thing injured on Philadelphia Eagles quarterback  Donovan McNabb yesterday was his pride, and his benching might eventually cost coach Andy Reid his job.

Quarterbacks and head coaches are often tied together when it comes to job security, and when one goes, the other often shortly follows. Just ask former Ravens coach Brian Billick and Kyle Boller.

Reid benched his star quarterback after a miserable first half in which McNabb completed just eightof18passes for 59 yards and had two interceptions and a quarterback rating of 13.2.

It was a bad move by Reid.
The Eagles were down by only 10-7 at the half, and McNabb has rallied his team in similar situations many times throughout his 10-year career. Also, hasn't McNabb been to the Pro Bowl five times?

Maybe McNabb has played poorly in the past couple of games, and Reid was definitely looking for a spark. But he replaced McNabb with second-year player Kevin Kolb.

Kevin Kolb?

He turned this kid loose against one of the best defenses in the NFL, one that was embarrassed a week ago against the Giants.

The kid had no chance.

"It turned our antennas up," Ravens safety Ed Reed saidof McNabb's benching.

Ravens cornerback Samari Rolle said: "Kevin Kolb. I'm not trying to be nasty or anything, but I don't even know who he is."

Kolb completed 10 of 23 passes for 73 yards and two interceptions. He finished with a quarterback rating of 15.3 and might have finished off McNabb's and Reid's careers in Philadelphia.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on November 24, 2008, 10:33:07 AM
Kolb is useless and another in a long line of wasted draft picks. Watching plyers like Matt Ryan and Joe farging Flacco take the reins and perform in simplistic offenses makes me so angry at Reid and the rest of this shteinhoused organization. A second rate inexperienced QB in an overly complex offense has no chance of thriving. But Andy knows best so we have Kolb throwing passes on 2nd and goal from the 18 inch line.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:40:47 AM
kolbs arm is weaker than seven days...its almost embarrassing
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: reese125 on November 24, 2008, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:40:47 AM
kolbs arm is weaker than seven days...its almost embarrassing

« Reply on: November 23, 2008, 03:35:25 PM »
   
Kolb has a farging jelly arm

bust



Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:46:20 AM
welcome to training camp summer 2007
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on November 24, 2008, 10:46:46 AM
I thought he looked pretty damn strong in that long sleeve tee with the arms cut off at the elbow.

THAT is what an NFL QB is supposed to look like.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on November 24, 2008, 10:47:03 AM
I'm not going to say that I am in Kolb's camp, or even that I think he has the tools to get it done in the league (I don't), but there is no way we can evaluate shtein about the guy. Just now on WIP, Angelo brought up a great point talking about how when the kid comes in against one of the better defenses in the league, Reid didn't change a single thing. Didn't dumb it down, or give the kid much of a chance to succeed. Think about it, even if Kolb has the tools be a great QB, Reid is so desperate right now, that he'd hedge all of his bets on the guy, and could ruin him. Regardless of whether Kolb had or has the potential to be a solid backup, or a decent starting QB, Reid stands a pretty good chance of seriously impairing his development.


They keep hammering on the second and inches, which makes me irate every time I think about it.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Butchers Bill on November 24, 2008, 10:47:13 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 24, 2008, 10:33:07 AM
Watching plyers like Matt Ryan and Joe farging Flacco take the reins and perform in simplistic offenses makes me so angry at Reid and the rest of this shteinhoused organization. A second rate inexperienced QB in an overly complex offense has no chance of thriving. But Andy knows best so we have Kolb throwing passes on 2nd and goal from the 18 inch line.

This right here is why it's so hard to be a fan of this team.  I prefer my football a little old school with a strong d, good running game, and a QB that manages the game.  We've known for years that his offense is ridiculously over complicated and that any QB or even WR will take years to learn it.  Well guess what Andy, you don't have years in the NFL.  With a strong D and running game, you will always be competitive if your QB gets hurt or has a bad series of games.

Thats not to say you can throw Bobby Hoying out there and be successful, but there has to be a happy medium.  Any team in the NFL that cannot punch the rock into the endzone on the 18 inch line by running the ball is a bad football team...period.  Thats what we have in Philly right now...a bad team. 

Its time to clean house of the coaching staff and keep McNabb.  I want to see what another coach can do for him before throwing him away.  If the new coach comes in and says he's done, then I say rebuild.  You always should get a second opinion before a move of such magnitude.  There are many QB's that have played well into their late 30's and McNabb is turning 32 in a week or so...he probably has three good years left.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: reese125 on November 24, 2008, 10:48:03 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 24, 2008, 10:46:46 AM
I thought he looked pretty damn strong in that long sleeve tee with the arms cut off at the elbow.

THAT is what an NFL QB is supposed to look like.

yeah but then you work up to the face and he looks like Hitlers great great grandson with a dyed stache
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:49:05 AM
i prefer a pro set offense

but in the end i dont even care if they throw it 40 times a game....it can work in the league....just get some motherfarging tools to do it with
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on November 24, 2008, 10:49:19 AM
Quote from: PPinDC on November 24, 2008, 10:47:03 AM
I'm not going to say that I am in Kolb's camp, or even that I think he has the tools to get it done in the league (I don't), but there is no way we can evaluate shtein about the guy. Just now on WIP, Angelo brought up a great point talking about how when the kid comes in against one of the better defenses in the league, Reid didn't change a single thing. Didn't dumb it down, or give the kid much of a chance to succeed. Think about it, even if Kolb has the tools be a great QB, Reid is so desperate right now, that he'd hedge all of his bets on the guy, and could ruin him. Regardless of whether Kolb had or has the potential to be a solid backup, or a decent starting QB, Reid stands a pretty good chance of seriously impairing his development.


They keep hammering on the second and inches, which makes me irate every time I think about it.

All you need to know about Kevin Kolb:

Weak arm + Andy calling 50 passes = Disaster


That could've been the Lions (or hell... the Bengals) and Kolb wouldn't have looked any better.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on November 24, 2008, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:49:05 AM
i prefer a pro set offense

but in the end i dont even care if they throw it 40 times a game....it can work in the league....just get some motherfarging tools to do it with

Oh, they have tools.  They have a nail file when they need a chainsaw.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Magical_Retard on November 24, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
but why in a 10-7 game?  ???
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: reese125 on November 24, 2008, 10:51:50 AM
the playbook is designed for 18 plays

Im having a hard time with the word simplistic...can somebody help me out?
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
I have to admit that I'm still a bit stunned.  I can't believe Reid.  Obviously, despite wanting him kicked out and railing against his play-calling, talent evaluation, etc. etc, I have been underestimating how awful he really is, as a coach and as a man.

It's hard to get my head around what happened.  How could he possibly have done that?  It's not just that it's football stoopid, it's something more.  There's a pathology to it that I can't explain just yet, but it's some farged up shtein.

For ten years Reid has simultaneously crippled McNabb--by shoehorning him into a system for which his talents are antithetical, by starving him of talented skill players, etc., etc.-- and enabled him--by deflecting all criticism of him and ignoring his obvious weaknesses--only to betray him and their twisted relationship in this bizzare manner. 

I couldn't have scripted this, didn't see it coming in the least, certainly not this way.

How can people not see that Reid is the problem with this team? 
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:52:54 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 24, 2008, 10:51:16 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:49:05 AM
i prefer a pro set offense

but in the end i dont even care if they throw it 40 times a game....it can work in the league....just get some motherfarging tools to do it with

Oh, they have tools.  They have a nail file when they need a chainsaw.


in new york we call em toolies in cali they call em gats...in philly they call them kevin curtis
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on November 24, 2008, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: reese125 on November 24, 2008, 10:51:50 AM
the playbook is designed for 18 plays

Im having a hard time with the word simplistic...can somebody help me out?

The playbook is very simplistic... as long as you're on the opposing defense.

It's only when one of Reid's busts get exposed... that they playbook becomes "complex".
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
I have to admit that I'm still a bit stunned.  I can't believe Reid.  Obviously, despite wanting him kicked out and railing against his play-calling, talent evaluation, etc. etc, I have been underestimating how awful he really is, as a coach and as a man.

It's hard to get my head around what happened.  How could he possibly have done that?  It's not just that it's football stoopid, it's something more.  There's a pathology to it that I can't explain just yet, but it's some farged up shtein.

For ten years Reid has simultaneously crippled McNabb--by shoehorning him into a system for which his talents are antithetical, by starving him of talented skill players, etc., etc.-- and enabled him--by deflecting all criticism of him and ignoring his obvious weaknesses--only to betray him and their twisted relationship in this bizzare manner. 

I couldn't have scripted this, didn't see it coming in the least, certainly not this way.

How can people not see that Reid is the problem with this team? 


caller on wip just made an excellent analogy...what reid did would be like putting ten years of your life into a relationship then at the end when youre not happy anymore with your girl and its run its course you send your best friend to tell her its over
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 24, 2008, 10:56:22 AM
I'm not ready to call Kolb a bust after one half in which he was just tossed in there against the #3 D in the league. Part of me thinks Reid is just trying to save his ass by benching McNabb, but at halftime I remember thinking to myself I wouldn't mind seeing Kolb get a shot. One things for certain, the Offense as it stands now is one of the worst in the league - and I'm not saying they have top level talent - but they certainly are better than what they've showed the past 2 weeks. That's a reflection of the HC, the playcalling, and getting the offense up, not so much the QB

Quote from: rjs246 on November 24, 2008, 10:33:07 AM
Kolb is useless and another in a long line of wasted draft picks. Watching plyers like Matt Ryan and Joe farging Flacco take the reins and perform in simplistic offenses makes me so angry at Reid and the rest of this shteinhoused organization. A second rate inexperienced QB in an overly complex offense has no chance of thriving. But Andy knows best so we have Kolb throwing passes on 2nd and goal from the 18 inch line.

Nice summary, in the beginning Reid ran the ball, stayed within the limits of his offense, and didn't make (as many) stupid coaching blunders.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: reese125 on November 24, 2008, 10:56:26 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
I have to admit that I'm still a bit stunned.  I can't believe Reid.  Obviously, despite wanting him kicked out and railing against his play-calling, talent evaluation, etc. etc, I have been underestimating how awful he really is, as a coach and as a man.

It's hard to get my head around what happened.  How could he possibly have done that?  It's not just that it's football stoopid, it's something more.  There's a pathology to it that I can't explain just yet, but it's some farged up shtein.

For ten years Reid has simultaneously crippled McNabb--by shoehorning him into a system for which his talents are antithetical, by starving him of talented skill players, etc., etc.-- and enabled him--by deflecting all criticism of him and ignoring his obvious weaknesses--only to betray him and their twisted relationship in this bizzare manner. 

I couldn't have scripted this, didn't see it coming in the least, certainly not this way.

How can people not see that Reid is the problem with this team? 

because as noted before....as the biggest media event in all of sports....media is enamored by making it to the Superbowl as a coach

your safe in ESPN's mind
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: reese125 on November 24, 2008, 10:57:56 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
I have to admit that I'm still a bit stunned.  I can't believe Reid.  Obviously, despite wanting him kicked out and railing against his play-calling, talent evaluation, etc. etc, I have been underestimating how awful he really is, as a coach and as a man.

It's hard to get my head around what happened.  How could he possibly have done that?  It's not just that it's football stoopid, it's something more.  There's a pathology to it that I can't explain just yet, but it's some farged up shtein.

For ten years Reid has simultaneously crippled McNabb--by shoehorning him into a system for which his talents are antithetical, by starving him of talented skill players, etc., etc.-- and enabled him--by deflecting all criticism of him and ignoring his obvious weaknesses--only to betray him and their twisted relationship in this bizzare manner. 

I couldn't have scripted this, didn't see it coming in the least, certainly not this way.

How can people not see that Reid is the problem with this team? 


caller on wip just made an excellent analogy...what reid did would be like putting ten years of your life into a relationship then at the end when youre not happy anymore with your girl and its run its course you send your best friend to tell her its over

or you put a post-it on his locker
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Butchers Bill on November 24, 2008, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
How can people not see that Reid is the problem with this team? 

I don't get it either.  This is 100% his team...from the players selected, to the coaching staff, to the plays called on the field.  There must be a direct correlation to the quality on the field, and the quality of Reid's talent as a coach and GM.  For some reason people just are not calling him out on it.  Yeah, the guy won over 100 games but you cannot ignore whats going on right now.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: mussa on November 24, 2008, 10:58:47 AM
So does McNabb start Thursday?
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on November 24, 2008, 11:06:45 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 24, 2008, 10:56:22 AM
Nice summary, in the beginning Reid ran the ball, stayed within the limits of his offense, and didn't make (as many) stupid coaching blunders.

Which is hilarious, because if he ever had any inkling of doing so when McNabb was under center... the offense wouldn't be in this position in the first place.

farging fat farg.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 11:07:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 24, 2008, 10:56:09 AMcaller on wip just made an excellent analogy...what reid did would be like putting ten years of your life into a relationship then at the end when youre not happy anymore with your girl and its run its course you send your best friend to tell her its over

the analogy is pretty good, but it leaves out the power dynamic.  Reid drove this relationship, McNabb rode shotgun. 

here's my analogy:

It's like a guy gets a timid dog expecting it to be a guard dog.  He spends ten years trying to get the thing to bark, and for ten years he feeds and keeps the dog in his home, and for ten years the dog is obedient and loving.  But it just isn't a guard dog.  And then one night the guy stands up from the dinner table and makes his son shoot the dog dead in front of the whole family because it didn't bark at the doorbell.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on November 24, 2008, 11:21:24 AM
Ha. Awesome.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on November 24, 2008, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on November 24, 2008, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
How can people not see that Reid is the problem with this team? 

I don't get it either.  This is 100% his team...from the players selected, to the coaching staff, to the plays called on the field.  There must be a direct correlation to the quality on the field, and the quality of Reid's talent as a coach and GM.  For some reason people just are not calling him out on it.  Yeah, the guy won over 100 games but you cannot ignore whats going on right now.

You know the sad part is watching the coaches that used to be on this staff and how they coach pretty much the opposite of Reid.  Look at Harbaugh and Childress, not to mention the SB winning DC Spagnulo(sp?)
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: MDS on November 24, 2008, 12:01:26 PM
oh my god can he be more of a fool

fire andy NOW
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 12:11:08 PM
And now Reid tells everyone that McNabb will start on Thanksgiving. 

idiot circus
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 24, 2008, 01:02:28 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 24, 2008, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Butchers Bill on November 24, 2008, 10:58:17 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
How can people not see that Reid is the problem with this team? 

I don't get it either.  This is 100% his team...from the players selected, to the coaching staff, to the plays called on the field.  There must be a direct correlation to the quality on the field, and the quality of Reid's talent as a coach and GM.  For some reason people just are not calling him out on it.  Yeah, the guy won over 100 games but you cannot ignore whats going on right now.

You know the sad part is watching the coaches that used to be on this staff and how they coach pretty much the opposite of Reid.  Look at Harbaugh and Childress, not to mention the SB winning DC Spagnulo(sp?)

Childress sucks.

I agree, but then anyone with half a brain knows that its about defense and running the ball. Spags has not had a shot yet, but I hope he is the guy to take over for Reid.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 24, 2008, 01:09:26 PM
Reid is an abomination.  His not calling a timeout when time was running down into halftime, and wasting 13 seconds before realizing a timeout should have been called is sickening.  Add to that Mcnabb failed to realize it, they should both be gone.  I miss the days of the opposing D having to use a LB to spy mcnabb, which opened up the TE or Slot receiver. 
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Rome on November 24, 2008, 01:58:44 PM
Time for a thread title change.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 02:01:11 PM
Good thinking
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 24, 2008, 02:03:01 PM
lol
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Diomedes on November 24, 2008, 02:10:50 PM
from NYtimes 5th down blog

QuoteN.F.L. Fast Forward
McNabb to Start Again, but How Long Before He's Shown the Door?
By JUDY BATTISTA

On the day after Barack Obama won the presidential election, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb mused what it would be like for his team to win the Super Bowl and to receive the congratulatory phone call from the country's first African-American president.

After being walloped by the Ravens on Sunday, the Eagles aren't going to the Super Bowl. And even if they do in the next few years, McNabb probably won't be the quarterback taking that call from the Oval Office.

His benching after one half Sunday almost certainly represented the beginning of the end of an era in Philadelphia.

Sure, Coach Andy Reid announced on Monday that McNabb would start when the Eagles host the Arizona Cardinals on Thanksgiving night. But it is hard to imagine Reid will go into another season with McNabb as the full-time starter after benching him — and not delivering the news himself — with the Eagles trailing by just 3 points against a fearsome defense. It is an ignoble and stunning conclusion to what seemed not that long ago like a rare quiet and healthy season for McNabb.

But even then, there were warning signs in the horrible starts, the hot finishes and the inexplicable streaks. And now this: McNabb has thrown five interceptions, fumbled twice and tossed just one touchdown pass in the past two games. Most shockingly, he also admitted to not knowing that a game could end in a tie.

McNabb hasn't been the only problem in the offense's meltdown. The running game, with Brian Westbrook, is confoundingly underused, with runs coming on a little more than a third of the offensive plays. Still, McNabb was made the de facto scapegoat by Reid, the man who was once his most steadfast champion.

Reid may have made a terrible mistake benching McNabb when he did, though, because it thrust Kevin Kolb, a second-round pick who did not throw a pass last year as a rookie and who had attempted just nine passes as a pro before Sunday, into an unwinnable situation. The Eagles were on the road against one of the N.F.L.'s most intimidating defenses. Soon enough, Ed Reed intercepted a Kolb pass when Philadelphia still had a chance and returned it 108 yards for a touchdown.

"Sometimes with a player, you step back an inch and maybe you go forward a mile," Reid said, which certainly made it sound on Sunday like he thought McNabb could return.

Reid left himself with two awful options: Stick with Kolb even though he would have had only three days to prepare for the Thanksgiving game, or put McNabb back in as a likely lame duck and brace for an absolutely brutal reaction from fans when he takes the field Thursday.

He has made his choice, for now. But either way, amid a slow but steady decline in recent years, the Eagles are sliding into a rebuilding mode. They are in last place in the National Football Conference East, two games behind the taterskins in the win column, and are perhaps the league's most underachieving team. Their playoff hopes are hanging by a thread.

It has been a sometimes exhilarating, sometimes infuriating decade for McNabb and the Eagles. No matter what happens in the short term, McNabb will probably have to be traded in the off-season. And as bad as he looks right now, he will probably draw interest elsewhere in the league (Minnesota, anybody) particularly if Reid plays him again and he bounces back.

McNabb was once just a few points — and an upset stomach — away from defeating the New England Patriots and becoming a Super Bowl champion. But on Sunday, he was quite literally left standing in the cold.
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Don Ho on November 24, 2008, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 24, 2008, 10:46:46 AM
I thought he looked pretty damn strong in that long sleeve tee with the arms cut off at the elbow.

THAT is what an NFL QB is supposed to look like.

HA!  :-D  I was thinking the same thing.  Haven't seen that look since little league baseball.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Don Ho on November 24, 2008, 02:43:06 PM
Quote from: Rome on November 24, 2008, 01:58:44 PM
Time for a thread title change.

time for some farging baseball!
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: NC_Eagle on November 24, 2008, 04:55:08 PM
I can't think of anything to say about Reid that will get past the profanity filter, so this instead:

(http://i38.tinypic.com/35a9ffk.jpg)
Title: Re: Reid benches McNabb
Post by: Magical_Retard on November 24, 2008, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 24, 2008, 02:42:18 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 24, 2008, 10:46:46 AM
I thought he looked pretty damn strong in that long sleeve tee with the arms cut off at the elbow.

THAT is what an NFL QB is supposed to look like.

HA!  :-D  I was thinking the same thing.  Haven't seen that look since little league baseball.

he was also very fiery!
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: MadMarchHare on November 24, 2008, 07:31:12 PM
McNabb still hasn't gotten over being booed - 10 years ago.

He will never come back from this, ever.  Christ, he may carry it over to wherever he's traded/dumped.  I'd try to trade him to Childress for draft picks at this point - he could actually make a difference in Minnesota (the biggest piece they're missing is a decent QB).  We're past the trade deadline, maybe?  Beats the shtein out of me.  What is patently obvious is that they didn't want to start Kolb on 2 days of practice.  After ARZ destroys them Thursday night, all Kolb for the rest of the season.

Napalm.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Magical_Retard on November 24, 2008, 10:43:41 PM
what i dont get is that if they really were trying to win the game and keep the playoffs hopes alive why didnt they put in feely?

he could have done better than kolb no?
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on November 24, 2008, 10:56:58 PM
I forgot Feeley was on the team
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Geowhizzer on November 24, 2008, 11:14:03 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 24, 2008, 10:56:58 PM
I forgot Feeley was on the team

So did Reid.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: MadMarchHare on November 25, 2008, 06:59:19 AM
What did PG call Feeley?  A clipboard toting interception machine?  Probably wouldn't have changed much.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on November 25, 2008, 07:30:43 AM
FEELEY!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on November 25, 2008, 11:15:29 AM
Merrill is on somebullshtein.  He's on with Spadaro saying that Kolb has a "strong arm, not a cannon... but certainly more of an arm than the Mannings... and a stronger arm than Tom Brady."

I know I shouldn't have had it on in the first place, but I had it on while working and I cut that shtein off when I heard that.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on November 25, 2008, 11:23:28 AM
Who cares? He's probably talented enough to run a simple offense and thrive in it. But being asked to run 55 passing plays a game that each require 15 seconds to communicate is a recipe for fail.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Phanatic on November 25, 2008, 11:31:22 AM
No QB can function in the current system. Starting Kolb would just ruin him. Throw Feely to the wolves so we can get a new coach.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: reese125 on November 25, 2008, 11:32:17 AM
see theres the problem...a mvp trophy flashed in front of Reids fat eyes when he watched him at Houston throw 100 times a game...because everything in college is exactly the same in the NFL

prove me wrong whatever...i just dont see him making many tough throws between defenders with that better than Brady arm
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2008, 11:49:16 AM
actually donovan just said the funniest thing in his ten years here

first question of the presser "when did you find out you wouldnt be going back in the game sunday"

donovan "when the janitor told me"
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2008, 11:58:43 AM
eagles pressers are such a joke...you go the local media asking some really string questions about the benching his relationship with reid his slump is he on a short leash is it hard to be looking over your shoulder thursday ect..ect...

lots of questions having to do with stuff you wouldnt consider positive...so then merril reese busts in and asks donovan if he thinks the game could be high scoring on thursday...why are merrill and spadaro allowed to ask questions at these news conferences....its farging ridiculous
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Rome on November 25, 2008, 12:11:40 PM
Have you ever considered not watching/listening to press conferences?
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2008, 12:13:37 PM
never ever...once apathy sets in then these people have truly won
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Magical_Retard on November 25, 2008, 12:14:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 25, 2008, 11:58:43 AM
eagles pressers are such a joke...you go the local media asking some really string questions about the benching his relationship with reid his slump is he on a short leash is it hard to be looking over your shoulder thursday ect..ect...

lots of questions having to do with stuff you wouldnt consider positive...so then merril reese busts in and asks donovan if he thinks the game could be high scoring on thursday...why are merrill and spadaro allowed to ask questions at these news conferences....its farging ridiculous

i dont even know how to answer that question...

"yes merril this game could be a high scoring one. or a low scoring one. or a medium one."

and nice jab by mcnabb at reid.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Rome on November 25, 2008, 12:17:39 PM
Not talking about watching the actual games, dook.  But listening to jocks/coaches drivel is about as appealing a thought as watching "Coach" reruns is to me. 
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on November 25, 2008, 12:29:50 PM
i live for it

then again i like king of queens reruns
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Tomahawk on November 25, 2008, 12:34:17 PM
Anyone with at least half a brain like King Of Queens reruns
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on November 25, 2008, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 25, 2008, 12:34:17 PM
Anyone with at least half a brain like King Of Queens reruns

False.

Quote from: Tomahawk on November 25, 2008, 12:34:17 PM
Anyone with at most half a brain like King Of Queens reruns

True.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Rome on November 25, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
Eye c wut u did thr.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 25, 2008, 03:29:09 PM
O I C IT 2
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on November 25, 2008, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: Rome on November 25, 2008, 02:38:32 PM
Eye c wut u did thr.

What, you couldn't come up with a clever way to spell 'did'? Lazy bastich.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: BigEd76 on December 03, 2008, 10:22:36 AM
Kolb is angry (http://www.nj.com/sports/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1228280734162060.xml&coll=5&thispage=1)
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on December 03, 2008, 10:28:29 AM
That cracker needs to shut the hell up.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 03, 2008, 10:31:19 AM
He has a proven record of greatness in the NFL.  Of course he should be starting over McNabb.  Of course.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on December 03, 2008, 10:33:10 AM
Is it possible that the Eagles have the two dopiest looking quarterbacks in the history of the NFL on the same team at the same time?

I mean seriously, what are the odds?
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on December 03, 2008, 10:47:34 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 03, 2008, 10:22:36 AM
Kolb is angry (http://www.nj.com/sports/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1228280734162060.xml&coll=5&thispage=1)

He might get a tiny bit of sympathy or support if he had played well when given the chance. I realize the circumstances but that throw that got returned 150 yards for a TD was all on him. He needs to shut his whiney ass up. They should just start AJ since he's the only QB without issues
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2008, 10:50:57 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 03, 2008, 10:22:36 AM
Kolb is angry (http://www.nj.com/sports/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1228280734162060.xml&coll=5&thispage=1)

non story

its the old of course im upset everyone wants to start...if you dont wanna start you should be in this business

blah blah zzzzzz blah zzzzz blah blah BLAH
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Feva on December 03, 2008, 12:37:54 PM
I saw that article an hour or two ago.  My first thought was  "Kolb needs to shut the farg up."


My thoughts haven't changed.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 03, 2008, 12:43:43 PM
at least he's not a Hoyda who doesnt want to play
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2008, 12:45:20 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 03, 2008, 12:43:43 PM
at least he's not a Hoyda who doesnt want to play

because theres tons of players in the nfl who hope they never start a game in their life
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 03, 2008, 12:46:33 PM
Ryan Leaf
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on December 03, 2008, 12:47:24 PM
Matt Cassel
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Diomedes on December 03, 2008, 12:54:15 PM
Shawn Andrews
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: rjs246 on December 03, 2008, 12:58:37 PM
Wes Welker
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2008, 12:59:19 PM
donovan mcnabb
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on December 03, 2008, 01:07:05 PM
Baby Jesus
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Father Demon on December 03, 2008, 01:58:58 PM
You just know that McNabb's sensitive-ass are going to sulk around because of this.  I wouldn't be surprised if Kolb and McNabb aren't talking now, and it comes down to a "him or me" conversation.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Wingspan on December 03, 2008, 02:00:17 PM
They've probably never talked before this.

I highly doubt this article changes anything, anywhere...except people post counts.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: mussa on December 03, 2008, 02:18:52 PM
who cares
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: MDS on December 03, 2008, 02:35:49 PM
lj smith
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: shorebird on December 03, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
This team is a goddamn bad soap opera.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2008, 02:46:14 PM
Quote from: shorebird on December 03, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
This team is a goddamn bad soap opera.


calm down nancy
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: shorebird on December 03, 2008, 03:05:31 PM
Can't help it. There are no headlines about a playoff run, or going for homefield advantage, or what opponent we might have in the playoffs.

No. We have a 4 PAGE ARTICLE ON THE BACKUP QUARTERBACK BEING MAD BECAUSE HE'S NOT STARTING AFTER THE DUMBASS NO PASSING corksuckER THROWS AN NFL REOCORD INTERCEPTION!!

#@%&*$!!
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Rome on December 03, 2008, 03:16:57 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: General_Failure on December 03, 2008, 03:42:00 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on December 03, 2008, 01:58:58 PM
You just know that McNabb's sensitive-ass are going to sulk around because of this.  I wouldn't be surprised if Kolb and McNabb aren't talking now, and it comes down to a "him or me" conversation.

People expect this kind of dumbassery from people that aren't you, so in the future, please leave it to the professionals.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: Father Demon on December 03, 2008, 03:44:23 PM
Well said. 

It was an attempted mocking, but I guess it failed.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: ice grillin you on December 03, 2008, 03:48:57 PM
miserably
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: methdeez on December 03, 2008, 06:59:04 PM
I like this, written as straight-up fact:

QuoteThe Eagles also need McNabb to perform at a relatively high level in order to get fair value for him in a trade following the season. With a salary cap figure in excess of $10 million in 2009, McNabb will not be back unless the Birds win-out and reach the postseason.

Where did that come from?
They will pay LJ smith $5Mill, but unless they win-out (which they won't) McNabb is gone?
I like how it's not even a question, it is just assumed to be what will happen.
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: mussa on December 03, 2008, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: shorebird on December 03, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
This team is a goddamn bad soap opera.

No your making it into a soap opera, just like other fans and the media
Title: Re: Reid un-benches McNabb
Post by: shorebird on December 03, 2008, 08:07:41 PM
WRONG! I don't have to make this team into anything. They do it themselves. Right from the owner with his Gold Standard bullcrap, to the coach who apparently can't see past his play card, right down to the backup quarterback.