Who would want?
Discuss who would be available, and who would be the best fit. Me personally, after a decade plus of the Fat Man, I would seriously welcome a run first, hard nosed defensive minded coach.
Cowher?
Rex or Rob Ryan?
Jim Fassel (wretch)?
Mike Heimerdinger?
Jim Schwartz? I like this guy best. Tennessee's defense coordinator. Obviously has done an excellent job in the past few years, and his players love him. Came up in a environment where you jam the ball down the opponents throats, then punch them in the mouth on defense.
I would let IGY coach the team, as long as they play with some balls.
Either Ryan would be an upgrade. I say go for Mullett Ryan, see what happens.
Reid will get fired like four years from now, when the team is really in the toilet. He'll be replaced by someone even shteintier.
There's your happy thoughts.
I think you gotta throw Steve Spangwhateverican'tspellhislastname.
He could keep JJ on as the DC as they have the same philosophy, and he might want to come back here after being here before.
Option #6: Andy hands over the HC position to Morningwood, who keeps the staff intact and continues to call bad games.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2008, 12:19:58 AM
Option #6: Andy hands over the HC position to Morningwood, who keeps the staff intact and continues to call bad games.
The horror.
Option 7: The Return of Kotite.
we need to get away from retards that like to throw a lot
how about Mike Leach? :D
This is the problem. Who would you bring in. The knee jerk reaction is anyone would do better. But we know that isn't the case. I have my questions about Cowher but we have the facts on Reid.
Doesn't matter who we bring in until there are philosophy and personell changes. Taking the D for example... the only difference between JJ and Spagnuolo is that Spagnuolo has actual dogs in their front 7 like Osi, Tuck, Kiwanuka, Pierce, etc... and the Eagles have undersized "fastballs" and "high-motor" guys like Juqua, Clemons, Abiamiri, Laws, Gocong, etc...
The past few years... the Giants have been drafting physically gifted monsters... and the Eagles have been drafting projects and low-profile "steals".
The problem is that they cut Andy Studebaker.
shtein, I know high school coaches who are better than that walking sack of guts and meat that is Andy Ried.
Bill Cowher, unless your going to get someone like Rex Ryan, who has never had a head coaching job.
jj's gotta go too.
when they blitzed the corner and left dawk 1-on-1 with plax, i think the entire stadium knew it was gonna be a td.
On the post game show one of the guys noted that Tiki knew exactly which play the Eagles were running at the end of the game because Reid is that predictable or they all know their signs or what?
the second they lined up for that last run you could see the entire giant linebacking corps shift to the left...it was amazing to see it happen...they knew EXACTLY what was coming and where it was coming to
Quote from: hunt on November 10, 2008, 09:11:22 AM
jj's gotta go too.
when they blitzed the corner and left dawk 1-on-1 with plax, i think the entire stadium knew it was gonna be a td.
Don't know what the hell JJ was thinking there. You'd think he learned their lesson when he left Dawk on an island with TO... which also ended in a TD.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2008, 09:21:35 AM
the second they lined up for that last run you could see the entire giant linebacking corps shift to the left...it was amazing to see it happen...they knew EXACTLY what was coming and where it was coming to
I didn't see the LB's shifting. Like a little Hoyda, I chose not to look.
In general, the blitz was fairly effective last night against Eli. It wasn't really getting there, but he was getting happy feet and making some bad throws.
Still, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
the whole game embodied everything that has been wrong with this team and coach for 10 yrs.
slow start by mcnabb
terrible playcalling
terrible challenges:time management
defense that can not stop the run
defense that has no pass rush
blitzes which leave ppl on a island one on one
you could see eli and plax signal to each other once they knew sheldon was coming in for the blitz.
and with all that to think they still had a chance at the end.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 10, 2008, 09:42:25 AM
In general, the blitz was fairly effective last night against Eli. It wasn't really getting there, but he was getting happy feet and making some bad throws.
Still, BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
there were very few downs they actually had to pass. most of the game they just ran for big chunks and picked up first downs. in fact i would get happy when they would pass....could lead to a incomplete and stop the clock.
this RUN D blows. i know they are good but this was just terrible.
i couldnt get over how bad the d line was getting blown back...a few times it looked like they were playing seven linebackers because right after the snap the lineman were with the backers four yards deep
and speaking of the linebackers they are horrid...cant tackle and they let another te have a career day against them
i know he got burned for the TD but the only one on D that really looked like he showed up was Dawkins.
that 3rd down play where it was almost a certainly jacobs would fall fwd and land on the first down marker....dawkins came and knocked him back.
we need 10 more guys with his attitude and lack of fear.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2008, 09:53:36 AM
i couldnt get over how bad the d line was getting blown back...a few times it looked like they were playing seven linebackers because right after the snap the lineman were with the backers four yards deep
and speaking of the linebackers they are horrid...cant tackle and they let another te have a career day against them
I was having this arguement with one of the board's two 'tards after the game last night in the game thread. While I agree that for the most part, these linebackers as a unit are average at best, it is hard to grade them and make any kind of real evaluation when Laws, Patterson, Bunkley, and whoever else they line up at DT are getting blown back into them. There were a couple running plays where I saw the DTs in a full on back pedal or getting knocked directly into a linebacker.
Quote from: PPinDC on November 10, 2008, 11:00:45 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2008, 09:53:36 AM
i couldnt get over how bad the d line was getting blown back...a few times it looked like they were playing seven linebackers because right after the snap the lineman were with the backers four yards deep
and speaking of the linebackers they are horrid...cant tackle and they let another te have a career day against them
I was having this arguement with one of the board's two 'tards after the game last night in the game thread. While I agree that for the most part, these linebackers as a unit are average at best, it is hard to grade them and make any kind of real evaluation when Laws, Patterson, Bunkley, and whoever else they line up at DT are getting blown back into them. There were a couple running plays where I saw the DTs in a full on back pedal or getting knocked directly into a linebacker.
only gives reid another excuse to draft another lackluster high motor DT with one of the top picks in next yrs draft.
and since we are throwing out names of coaches who will never be hired since reid will never be fired...
why not spags? he seems like a smart young coordinator who is a firey guy. he knows the team pretty well and would probably hire a real offensive coordinator since he would be mostly taking care of the defense.
He already turned down the skins for a head coaching job. I can't imagine why he'd go back to Philly.
Im pretty sure it was known that he didnt want the job because of Danny
well assuming reid is fired or resigns...
the eagles job is very lucrative. two first round draft picks. a QB and RB in place. rookie WR who is showing signs.
oh and thats also assuming mcnabb is still on the team. even if he is let go you have two first round picks.
I would shoot my load if we hired Cowher or Steve Spag.
I am watching the Simpsons where Homer coaches the Wildcats. I want Ned Flanders as coach and Nelson Muntz as quarterbacks. I won't give you a B but I'll tear you a new A.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 10, 2008, 11:58:04 AM
Im pretty sure it was known that he didnt want the job because of Danny
yup, pretty much the whole front office and how things are run there. btw Spagnuolo has the same agent as Reid (and Holmgren/Gruden/Sherman/Fox)
the d line is how it's been all year. this game solidified the fact that they are "fast" but just gaping vah-jay-jays when it comes to the run. patterson caught an int bc he created no pressure and decided to stunt and ran into an open lane (like 3 seconds later). there's your pic, there's also why we suck at stopping the run. bunkley does that too since he lost weight, drive up the middle, get pushed back for 2 yards then just drop back in semi coverage-joker-stunt action and dance around the LOS.
i've also noticed that gocong (i was a big fan of him) is just so god damn slow reacting. by the time he reacts, he can't set the edge and bradley (who reacts pretty well imo) is right next to gocong when gocong should be like 3 yards to his side.
and of course gm, time management, playcalling are all farged.
but hey, at least we got some high motors out there and 9 pass rushers but no one (like kimo!) who can stop the farging run.
Go dig Marion Campbell up (he must be dead by now, right?)
Anyone but Reid. Maybe we can hire one of the crackheads his son hooked on smack to kill him.
ditka is such a moron. on monday night countdown they just went over the game and not only did he defended Reid for the two straight running plays (saying they were good calls but not properly executed) he failed to mention the two terrible challenges.
keyshawn, cris carter, and tom jackson correctly called out reid for never acquiring that big back.
none of them really touched on the terrible 2 challenges which cost them the 2 timeouts.
i feel like kicking ditka in the balls now.
shtein, I'd be willin' to bring back Dick Vermeil.
the second challenge was fine and had to be done...youre talking about taking away the ball and a score...timeouts werent an issue anyway...being able to gain one yard was
the bigger indictment of the two straight run calls was not the fact that reid made them but that the giants knew exactly what was going to be run on 4th down...its a complete embarrassment
Who gives a shtein if the Giants knew what play was coming? Fact is the Eagles can't run the ball. The Giants, on the other hand, could have literally turned to the Eagles defense on 4th and 1 and screamed in unison what play was coming and the Eagles wouldn't have been able to stop it.
The Giants are a better football team because they can cram the ball down the opposition's throat pretty much any time them want. The Eagles can't because their fat corksucker of a head coach doesn't give a damn about the run, only his retarded trick-laden freakshow of an offense.
^^YES^^
the giants could have ran the ball pretty much on every play and won the game.
they didnt need to pass.
well i dont want to interrupt your circle jerk here, but the Eagles knew they were running on 3rd and inches and stopped them for about a 4 yard loss when the game was on the line.
I'll leave you guys to get back to your constant spewing of idiocy though.
How about the other 44 times they ran the ball? How did they work out for the Giants? Who won the game again?
Quote from: Rome on November 10, 2008, 07:39:02 PM
Who gives a shtein if the Giants knew what play was coming? Fact is the Eagles can't run the ball. The Giants, on the other hand, could have literally turned to the Eagles defense on 4th and 1 and screamed in unison what play was coming and the Eagles wouldn't have been able to stop it.
The Giants are a better football team because they can cram the ball down the opposition's throat pretty much any time them want. The Eagles can't because their fat corksucker of a head coach doesn't give a damn about the run, only his retarded trick-laden freakshow of an offense.
right up the middle, path of least resistance there. good thing we got those 3 new dt draft picks to solidify that position.
Quote from: Rome on November 10, 2008, 07:39:02 PM
The Eagles can't because their fat corksucker of a head coach doesn't give a damn about the run, only his retarded trick-laden freakshow of an offense.
This is my favorite quote so far.
Quote from: Rome on November 10, 2008, 07:39:02 PM
Who gives a shtein if the Giants knew what play was coming?
well it sort of limits your success rate when the opponent knows what play youre going to run...didnt you ever try and look at your oppenets nintendo controller in tecmo
Lastnight reminded me of when the JV scrimmages the varsity. My #1 candidate would be Spags. He seems to good to be true so I doubt it will ever happen. I can't imagine a situation where Reid steps down or Lurie fires him so we're farged.
As for the D, they need to move Gaither back to the MIKE and put Bradley at his natural position of SAM. Use Gocong as a situational end and throw Jordan or whoever at WIL. The Giants have one of the best O-lines in the league but the Eagles D-line is hilariously bad. They need to quit with the friggen quick DTs already and put a beast in the middle. Bunkley's getting worse as the season progresses. Laws is god awful, and Patterson is mediocre at best.
Hey SD, speaking of HS, what ever happened to your cousin who played for Neshamity i think?
He played a little bit of college ball but he didn't want to do his school work. He's still trying to get his shtein together. I can only lecture him for so long.
laws really is a joke...but we all knew that when they drafted him...forget a new coach whos gonna be the new gm...because thats what i anticipate happens this off season...they arent gonna fire reid with three years left on his deal but a happy medium would be to take away his gm responsibilites
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2008, 09:07:49 PM
laws really is a joke...but we all knew that when they drafted him...forget a new coach whos gonna be the new gm...because thats what i anticipate happens this off season...they arent gonna fire reid with three years left on his deal but a happy medium would be to take away his gm responsibilites
They have a GM:
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I think it is entirely possible that at some point this season, this team completely quits on Reid, it's obvious that he has already lost the team from any sort of motivational standpoint, but they are still playing hard at times. I'm thinking once they get under .500, which is only a matter of time, the wheels come off. At that point, if the fat man doesn't resign, Lurie will can him. Lurie's gotta know that he has fourth best franchise in a four team division at this point, and the gap is widening all the time at this point, and not just in terms of the standings. I gotta believe at least 10% of the shtein he talks regarding trying to deliver a champion. A sub-500 season ends it for Reid imo.
So if Reid is gone, and they bring in a whole new staff, I think it's full on rebuild mode, this team doesn't have core of young guys who give the team an abundance of talent, or any type of identity.
Al Michaels: Wow...they are going to wait till the 2 min warning?
Madden: Yeah...McNabb is tired....he's tired.
It irrelevant to the well-deserved Reid bashing but Im sorry... I just cant over those comments after a 7yd scramble.
If the team misses the playoffs again I think there's a chance Reid will be fired. We all know Lurie is in love with him, but at the same time what else is he in love with? Publicity, money, being #1 in Philadelphia amongst the 4 major teams. The Eagles are quickly losing ground in town right now. They are #2 behind the Phillies without question and who knows how far they will drop if the Sixers and Flyers get going.
I think there is a chance that Lurie chooses his love of all things money, pride, and attention over his love for Reid.
Quote from: reese125 on November 10, 2008, 09:33:59 PM
Al Michaels: Wow...they are going to wait till the 2 min warning?
Madden: Yeah...McNabb is tired....he's tired.
It irrelevant to the well-deserved Reid bashing but Im sorry... I just cant over those comments after a 7yd scramble.
Of all the coaching/playing mistakes last night, this was the one that pissed me off the most. It's just incredible that they couldn't get another play off in 20 seconds. Then, they had two straight runs dialed up, both to the right side behind a backup OG.
I was actually ok with them not getting a play in. 2 minutes is plenty of time to score from where their position was on the field. The way the defense was playing, if you give the Giants the ball back with even 30 seconds left, they will at least get a field goal. The defense couldn't stop anybody. The Eagles still had a timeout too I believe.
The challenges and the 4th and 1 call were much worse IMO.
Quote from: reese125 on November 10, 2008, 09:33:59 PM
Al Michaels: Wow...they are going to wait till the 2 min warning?
Madden: Yeah...McNabb is tired....he's tired.
It irrelevant to the well-deserved Reid bashing but Im sorry... I just cant over those comments after a 7yd scramble.
that and they can never call the play in on time.
even on a hurry up offense it takes at least 15-20 seconds to set up.
Nothing we don't already know but this chick sums it up nicely:
Link (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20081111_Ashley_Fox___Eagles_need_action__not_Reid_s_hollow_words.html)
QuoteAshley Fox: Eagles need action, not Reid's hollow words
By Ashley Fox
Inquirer NFL columnist
Until the Eagles actually score a go-ahead touchdown to win a close game in the final couple of minutes, I'm done believing anything Andy Reid has to say. It's all just meaningless words now, non-explanations, catchphrases, and taking responsibility for things that don't make any sense.
Apparently, after losing yet another NFC East game by single digits, Reid thinks the Eagles are just fine. He knows what he's got. There's plenty of time left. He's got the pieces he needs.
The only addendum to Reid's normal postmortem yesterday after a 36-31 loss to the New York Giants was this: "We all need to step it up here now another notch down the stretch."
Seems when you "lose three games by three feet," you have to make sure that you work things out and get that taken care of. At least that's what Reid said.
Whatever.
In the battle of potential vs. production, I'm taking production right now. And the Eagles' production is this: five wins, four losses, zero wins in the NFC East, resulting in a spot in the divisional cellar right next to the Dallas Cowboys.
That road to the NFC championship? It doesn't run through Philadelphia anymore. In case those inside the protective gates of the NovaCare Complex haven't realized it, that road hasn't run through here in a while.
While Reid chose to focus on how the coaches could do things "schematically" to put the players in better positions, the reality is not pretty.
The Eagles are 0-3 against their biggest rivals and 0-4 this season in close games. They can't gain 1 measly yard when they have to have it. They can't get a big stop when they need one. They can't stop the run. They're getting manhandled at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. Their coach is calling desperate challenges.
And now, in the latest troubling trend that has developed over the last two weeks, the Eagles can't run the football. Brian Westbrook has had back-to-back insignificant performances. Blame the scheme, or blame the player, but the Eagles' most dangerous weapon has been a nonfactor two weeks in a row.
But everything is A-OK. Just listen to the head coach, who knows more than anyone else in town because, you know, he's the head coach and he's been the head coach for the last 10 years. It's going to be fine because Reid knows what he's got. It's no time to panic. There's plenty of time left.
"I know what I have as far as coaches and players, and I know what we have to do," Reid said yesterday. "And we're going to go do it."
Sure you are. Maybe against the 1-8 Cincinnati Bengals. But what about against the Giants again? Or the taterskins again? Or the Cowboys again?
The Eagles' five wins this season have been against teams that, as of Monday, were 18-26. Their four losses have been against teams that are 24-12. The meaning in that is simple: The Eagles can beat the less-competitive teams, but they're toast against the winners.
That means the Birds are in the middle of the pack, at best. And really, is that any better than being, say, St. Louis? Not here.
While he did make the players report for work yesterday - something that hasn't happened on a Monday in a while - Reid seemed to have determined, after what had to be a sleepless night in his office, that the Eagles' glass is half-full.
Pointing to the positives in the game, Reid said that he was happy that "when the Giants were in a passing situation" - and boy, they didn't need to be often - the Eagles' defense was "able to pressure Eli, hit Eli and sack Eli." The truth is, the Giants rumbled right over the Eagles, gaining 219 rushing yards so that Eli Manning didn't have to be perfect with the passing game. Sure, the Eagles pressured Manning from time to time, but he had plenty of time to step into his throws, and the reality is the Eagles sacked him once and he had 31 pass attempts.
Reid also said that the Eagles' offensive line did "an excellent job of protecting the quarterback." True enough. But where was the run blocking? Keeping the quarterback upright is great, but how about providing Westbrook a few holes? He gained 26 yards on 13 carries. And when the Eagles really needed 1 yard late in the game, Westbrook couldn't get it because he had nowhere to go.
But at least McNabb was on his feet.
Everything else Reid said was pretty much a blur about taking responsibility for this and putting guys in a better position to do that and some overused blather about doing something or other schematically. It's now the scheme, and the execution of the scheme. How insightful.
Until the Eagles get a meaningful win - and Cincinnati, Baltimore and Arizona don't count - I'm not buying any of it. Show me, don't tell me. If you can't do that, don't bother with anything else.
well done is better than well said.
Ashley Fox couldn't have said one single word in that article any better, unless she wanted to use a little profanity.
QuoteUntil the Eagles get a meaningful win - and Cincinnati, Baltimore and Arizona don't count - I'm not buying any of it. Show me, don't tell me. If you can't do that, don't bother with anything else.
At this point I really don't see how we beat baltimore or Arizona :'(
That's a good thing. Better draft pick. Less excuses for Reid to keep his job.
I'm content (for now) with the Phils parade so I don't agree with this article that Philly fans are addicted after having a taste of glory, but the rest of the article is again spot on:
The Gold Standard? (http://www.comcast.net/sports/russakoffrules/15303/thegoldstandard/)
QuoteWhen the Phillies won the World Series, the Eagles may have believed they'd get a break. Now that the city had its first championship in 100 seasons, the Birds may have concluded Philly fans would ease up on the criticism.
But if they thought that, they didn't understand Philadelphia.
Things are now significantly tougher for Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb in Philly. And if they don't get a grasp on this new environment quickly, they may both be gone sooner than they expect.
Now that the City of Brotherly Love has had a taste of glory, it's addicted. It's not willing to wait around for a mediocre team to try to mediocre its way into the playoffs.
Which is exactly what the post-T.O. Eagles have tried to do year after year.
Philly was never OK with the "Gold Standard" plan of Jeffrey Lurie, Joe Banner, and Reid. The "Thrifty Threesome" (trademark Russakoff Rules Inc.) always felt that they could stay away from the big risk and remain above-average, and one of these years things would break their way.
That "make-sure-you're-good-but-don't-dare-to-be-great" philosophy never sat well with Philadelphians. But we bought into it anyway.
We were desperate. We wanted a championship. We needed a championship.
So Philly put up with the underwhelming player moves, the maddening timeouts, and the frustrating play-calling, because the Birds gave the city its best hope at a ring...or so we thought.
But then the ColeTrain (trademark Russakoff Rules) beat Reidonomics to the punch, and everything changed.
Hamels and the Phillies showed the city what a winner looks like...what a winner feels like. They showed the town how winners talk and act off the field and how they play on it. And now, when the Phaithful watch the Eagles, we can't help but notice the stark contrast between our world-bleeping-champion Phillies and our last-place Eagles.
Philly is done waiting around for Andy and Donovan. Especially, when things are steadily getting worse.
Together, Reid and Donovan have been at this for 10 years. So why does it feel like every two-minute drill is still their first? Why does it seem like they are still making it up as they go along on every third-and-short? Why, when they need a big play in close games, do they always go with the most predictable one in their 227,856-page playbook?
Ray Didinger (a.k.a. Ray Diddy, a.k.a. Nauga, a.k.a. The Professor, a.k.a. R. Dadunkadunk) cited some incredible stats on Comcast Sportsnet's after Sunday night's game:
Since the Eagles loss to the Patriots in the Super Bowl, Andy Reid's teams are 7-19 in close games (those decided by less than six points).
Think that's bad? The Eagles are 1-10 in their last 11 close games.
1-10!
That's staggeringly pathetic. But not surprising considering the Eagles' biggest struggles over the past few years. The Birds have been terrible in the red zone, terrible in short yardage situations, and terrible with clock management. It's tough to win tight games when you're 0-for-3 in those categories.
And the blame for all three shortcomings has to fall squarely on the shoulders of the team's decision-makers: Reid and McNabb.
Reid is this team's "Executive VP of Football Operations." Which means he is the de facto GM. He chooses the players (sorry, Tom Heckert), he calls the plays (well, he and Marty Mornhinweg), and he makes the decisions on challenges/timeouts.
What Reid controls from the sidelines, Donovan controls on the field. McNabb is responsible for executing the plays, for audibling, for spiking the ball in the right spot, and for not letting valuable time run off the clock at the end of games.
Whenever the game has been on the line, both Reid and McNabb have grossly underperformed in these areas. Whenever a clutch spot comes up in a game, both invariably clam up.
Compare the Eagles' close-game futility with the Phillies' 89-0 record taking a lead into the ninth...or Brad Lidge's perfect 48-for-48 in save attempts.
In both baseball and football, when games come down to the end, when a play or two separates victory from defeat, playmakers make plays. Champions make plays.
Whenever the Phillies got into a tight spot in '08, there were players up and down the lineup that knew they were going to win the game for them.
The citizens of Philadelphia saw that. And we're looking for the same winning players on this Eagles roster.
Where are the players on the Eagles that demand the ball? Where is the front office guy that's willing to put his neck on the line? Where is the coach who will make a gutsy non-generic, unpredictable call with the game in the balance?
The Eagles don't have players like that. They don't have executives like that. They don't have coaches like that.
And now that the Phillies have shown this town what a champion looks like, the reason the Eagles can't get over the hump has become painstakingly obvious:
There aren't enough winners on this team. And it's real tough to win without winners.
Will Andy and Donovan ever win the big one? Do the Eagles need to start over? Add your thoughts here.
QuoteAnd now that the Phillies have shown this town what a champion looks like, the reason the Eagles can't get over the hump has become painstakingly obvious:
There aren't enough winners on this team. And it's real tough to win without winners.
Amen.
QuoteWhenever the game has been on the line, both Reid and McNabb have grossly underperformed in these areas. Whenever a clutch spot comes up in a game, both invariably clam up.
Compare the Eagles' close-game futility with the Phillies' 89-0 record taking a lead into the ninth...or Brad Lidge's perfect 48-for-48 in save attempts.
I can only really relate to that feeling from one side... but that's got to be maddening.
It's just pathetic how when watching the Eagles in a tight game, with the ball or without... we know that they're going to farg it up... we just don't know how. On the flip side you have, say... Patriots, Colts or Giants fans who are actually surprised when their team doesn't come through in the clutch. It pisses me off to the highest of pistivity that I can't have that confidence in my team to make a play when they have to have it.
I'm just sick and farging tired of being let down over stupid shtein. It's not because a team just came in and played better or outworked them... it's that somebody, somewhere does some stupid shtein that will cost us the game.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on November 11, 2008, 08:27:02 AM
QuoteUntil the Eagles get a meaningful win - and Cincinnati, Baltimore and Arizona don't count - I'm not buying any of it. Show me, don't tell me. If you can't do that, don't bother with anything else.
At this point I really don't see how we beat baltimore or Arizona :'(
yeah what the hell is she talking about...the ravens are clearly better than the eagles and while they should beat artizona at home it still qualifys as a good win since the cardinals are as good as the eagles...how you put arz and balt in a group with the bengals is beyond me
I think she was referring more to anybody in the NFC where it counts the most
because honestly there will/should be no fist pumps after either of those wins listed regardless
at baltimore would be a great win
at home against cardinals a good one
unless the eagles are out of it and they wont be youre an idiot if you wouldnt be very happy with either of those w's
at least I know now which one would be great and which one would be a good win
thank god youre here
i gots to school you on the regular...one more time isnt gonna kill you...stick around
More cold hard truths... (http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20081111/COLUMNISTS14/811110343/1015)
QuoteDefeat says a lot about Eagles
CourierPOstOnline.com • November 11, 2008
It was a statement game, all right, just like they said it would be.
The Eagles' 36-31 loss to the Giants that put their season on the brink made a heck of a statement, and it was this: The Eagles are not good enough. And worse, it might be something bigger than coaching, than talent, than play calling. The Eagles have become a team that shrinks in the big game and stumbles in the big moment.
"When you play championship football, you find a way to finish," Eagles cornerback Sheldon Brown said. "When you don't find a way to finish, you're not playing championship football.
"There's no use talking about how good you are. You are what your record is. It's discouraging."
The Eagles, once again, are weirdly less than the sum of their parts. Last year, the Eagles were the only NFL team to rank in the top 10 in both offense and defense to not make the playoffs. They were better on paper than on the field.
This year the Eagles are fourth in the league in scoring. They've scored 71 more points than they've allowed -- the second-best point differential in the NFC and third in the entire NFL. But when they play a tight game against a good team?
The Eagles can't get there.
They are 0-4 this season in games decided by six points or less. Dating to last season, the Eagles are 1-10 in games decided by six points or less -- the lone win a 10-6 victory Dec. 6 over Dallas. That's a big enough sample size to mean something.
"We'll get one here," Eagles head coach Andy Reid said. "It will happen."
Good to know. Asked why the Eagles can't win close games, Donovan McNabb said: "If I knew the answer to that, it wouldn't be happening."
Some of this is philosophy, the way the Eagles are built. Everyone else in the NFC East is getting bigger and stronger. Nobody else is playing a backup defensive tackle at fullback.
The taterskins, Giants and Cowboys all have developed power running games, although Dallas has an arguably weaker run-blocking line and a commitment to the pass to placate Terrell Owens (and by "placate," we mean: Keep him from freaking out).
The Eagles' defensive front looked pretty good before being eviscerated by the Giants. Through nine weeks, the Eagles had allowed 3.54 yards per rushing attempt (seventh in the NFL), had racked up a sack or an interception on 12.4 percent of opposing passing plays (third in the league) and allowed their opponents to convert on third down just 33.6 percent of the time (fifth in the league).
Then the Eagles got crushed by the Giants, pushed around up front (219 yards rushing, 4.9 yards per attempt, one sack and one interception in 32 pass attempts). The Eagles got driven backward on nearly every play.
Reid said Monday he was confident he had the people in place to stop the run, to compete with division foes who are plainly going big and aiming to push the Eagles around up front (Washington rushed for 203 yards Oct. 6 and averaged 4.6 yards per carry).
But, again, philosophy -- the Eagles are smallish up front by design, built to speed-rush the passer. On both sides of the ball, the Eagles believe it's too hard to walk the ball up the field, too hard to put together long,plodding drives. They're built to make plays in the passing game.
All of this just makes it weirder that the Eagles ran the ball twice on third and fourth downs with the game on the line. You know how many times the Eagles have run on third-and-3 this year? Once -- Sunday -- with their season in the balance.
McNabb -- who for his part took a delay-of-game penalty on the Giants' 8-yard line in the fourth quarter, inexcusable for a veteran quarterback -- supported the coaches' decision, but added pointedly: "I want the ball."
Hey, Don -- don't say it to us. Say it to Marty Mornhinweg. While the Eagles' offensive coordinator huddled with the head coach and plotted the two final plays, McNabb played catch a few yards away. Then McNabb walked over and got the play.
That was the time to say: "I want the ball." That was the time to take control of the game and stake a claim to this thing. Instead, the Eagles went quietly.
This is on the head coach. He's built a team that goes quietly. He coaches a team that shrinks from the big moment. Continually losing close games is a reflection of the head coach.
And Reid may not be able to scheme his way out of this one.
its not a coincidence that the eagles go small almost at every spot on defense then cant finish games
I am remembering Jim Johnson and other coaches in preseason going on and on about how they've never had such speed on a defense.
other than killa lito and perhaps bunkley i see no speed on defense...just because youre small doesnt mean youre fast even tho the eagles always seem to see a direct correlation btwn the two
McNabb is out of alibis, if he really wants the ball in his hands then call a farging audible. I have been a huge McNabb fan throughout his career and have defended him probably more than I should. Enough is enough already. Stop talking about it and just do it. He has had plenty of opportunities to become great, but he is not he is only good. Those last two articles pretty much sum up everything there is to know about this team.
Ah yes, the media jackals are finally beginning to circle. If the goal is to be rid of Reid, then pray for a loss in Cincy, then a stumbling finish. It might be the best shot for immediate relief. A wcard means fans twist in the wind for another season of post-game platitudes and mea-culpas, all while devolving into shades of Marion Campbell and Ritchie Kotite.
Throw in a "reach" for a new coach (like Reid was) and the trauma could last into the early teens...But hey, it was the co-misery of loserdom and then the excitement of rebuilding that helped herald the advent of :CF. And it was much more enjoyable than the slow-motion car accidents of each big game that mark the moribund decline of this edition of the team.
Hold up, hold up, hold up. First of all, you're throwing too many big words at me. Now... because I don't understand them, I'm gon' take it as disrespect. Watch yo' mouth... and help me with the sale.
haha...that's awesome
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 11, 2008, 12:27:28 PM
Hold up, hold up, hold up. First of all, you're throwing too many big words at me. Now... because I don't understand them, I'm gon' take it as disrespect. Watch yo' mouth... and help me with the sale.
you want desean jackson? well jackson he-ah now.
Quote from: JackStraw on November 11, 2008, 12:22:23 PM
Ah yes, the media jackals are finally beginning to circle. If the goal is to be rid of Reid, then pray for a loss in Cincy, then a stumbling finish. It might be the best shot for immediate relief. A wcard means fans twist in the wind for another season of post-game platitudes and mea-culpas, all while devolving into shades of Marion Campbell and Ritchie Kotite.
Throw in a "reach" for a new coach (like Reid was) and the trauma could last into the early teens...But hey, it was the co-misery of loserdom and then the excitement of rebuilding that helped herald the advent of :CF. And it was much more enjoyable than the slow-motion car accidents of each big game that mark the moribund decline of this edition of the team.
once again, Deep Thoughts by Jack.........Straw
feva does an awesome black guy impersonation.
Quote from: shorebird on November 11, 2008, 08:00:59 AM
Ashley Fox couldn't have said one single word in that article any better, unless she wanted to use a little profanity.
Or show us her tits...
(http://media.philly.com/images/80*80/may08_inq_fox1.jpg)
only if she puts a bag on her head
Does anyone know where I can get my hands on some discounted pharmaceuticals?
Garrett's ass?
I know I have been the biggest Reid supporter around here but after the 2 run plays at the end the other night, I really think he needs to be canned. You keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result, and you re insane. He needs to go now. As far as a new coach, who knows? You don't need a "name" guy to win. Belichek was sub 500 at Cleveland. Coughlin sucked til last year. Just get someone in here who won't try to do things we aren't built to do at crucial times.
I dont know if its an aborration (or abortion), but the 4 new head coaches have a combined record of something like 23-13 this year
It could be a trend happening, but at this point I would not be against a change of philosophy and bring in some young fresh mind that is more in tune with the game today after watching Reids senile display of playcalling
Domo, Moose Johnston and Kevin Turner, yes Kevin Turner... need to have a sit down with Reid. (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20081112_Paul_Domowitch__Without_a_real_fullback__Eagles__backfield_is_backfiring.html)
QuoteWithout a real fullback, Eagles' backfield is backfiring
By Paul Domowitch
Philadelphia Daily News
Daily News Sports Columnist
WHEN ANDY REID was affixing blame Monday for the Eagles' latest short-yardage implosion in Sunday night's devastating, 36-31 loss to the Giants, he zeroed in on two things: scheme and execution.
But Big Red conveniently overlooked the biggest reason why the Eagles couldn't make a yard Sunday, and haven't been able to make one most of the season.
Personnel.
For the second year in a row, Reid has made a major personnel gaffe that very well could cost the Eagles a playoff berth. And no, I'm not talking about his decision to pass on tight end Tony Gonzalez before last month's trading deadline, for which I've already admonished him. But while we're on the subject, did you happen to notice that Gonzalez had 10 catches for 113 yards and two touchdowns for the Chiefs on Sunday? You did?
Last year, for some inexplicable reason, Reid thought it would be OK to go into the season without an experienced punt returner. Two costly muffed punts in a three-point, Week 1 loss to the Packers made him realize it wasn't OK. Unfortunately, the damage already was done. The loss triggered a 2-4 start and the Eagles missed the playoffs for the second time in 3 years.
Reid corrected his punt-return blunder in April by selecting DeSean Jackson in the second round of the draft. But he has badly botched another position that is dragging the Eagles down.
Fullback.
You know the comical background. They let fullback Thomas Tapeh go because he couldn't play special teams. Signed defensive tackle Dan Klecko in March and moved him to fullback. Decided a couple of months later that maybe that wasn't such a good idea, after all, and moved him back to defense.
Couldn't find anybody they liked, so, 2 weeks before the start of the season,
Reid and his staff came up with an even dumber idea than making Klecko a fullback. That was switching running back Tony Hunt to fullback. That worked out about as well as Jessica Simpson's attempt at an acting career. Three weeks into the season, Reid gave up hope that Hunt would ever learn how to block, released him, and went back to Dumb Idea I (Klecko).
Klecko deserves some sort of award for the way he's been jerked around by Reid and the Eagles. At the very least, he probably will end up with an eating disorder out of it.
He is trying like hell to master the fullback position. But it takes time. A lot of time. Believe it or not, there's more to it than just being willing to run into somebody.
Which brings us to that fourth-and-1 play Sunday night. While right guard Max Jean-Gilles was primarily to blame for letting Giants linebacker Chase Blackburn slip past him and tackle Brian Westbrook for no gain, a more experienced fullback would have been able to see it coming and picked up Blackburn.
Same with that goal-line play in the Eagles' 23-17 loss to Washington when L.J. Smith and Tra Thomas both blocked the same guy and taterskins defensive end Andre Carter came in untouched and blew up both Klecko and Westbrook, who was nailed for a 3-yard loss.
Don't take my word for it. Ask one of the best blocking fullbacks in NFL history. Ask the guy who escorted NFL recordholder Emmitt Smith through holes for 10 years, former Cowboy Daryl "Moose" Johnston.
"It's not as easy as everybody thinks," said Johnston, a Fox Sports analyst who will be working Sunday's game between the Eagles and Bengals. "If you watched that fourth-and-1 play, Blackburn comes clean through the line.
"The fullback has to pick up a guy who goes unblocked. But Klecko's only been playing the position a few weeks. He's not going to react or anticipate as quickly as a fullback who's been playing back there most of his career. So Blackburn gets through, tackles Westbrook and the Eagles lose the game."
Last year, with Tapeh at fullback, the Eagles finished eighth in the league in rushing. They averaged 123.4 yards per game and 4.7 yards per carry. This year, those numbers have shrunk to 98.3 and 4.0.
The absence of Pro Bowl right guard Shawn Andrews, who has been out since Week 2 with a back injury, certainly has contributed to the drop in run production. So has Westbrook's health. He missed one game with an ankle injury, another with fractured ribs.
But Reid's mishandling of the fullback position has been a big factor, particularly in short-yardage situations. Last year, with Tapeh leading the way for him, Westbrook converted 10 of 12 third-and-1 situations, which was the sixth best success rate in the NFC. So far this year, the Eagles are 7-for-15 on third-and-1, including 3-for-their-last-10. They are 0-for-their-last-7 when they've run the ball on third-and-1.
For a guy like Reid, who's been an NFL head coach for 10 years, to think he could get by with a converted defensive tackle or a converted running back at fullback boggles the mind.
"[Playing fullback] is a skill you develop," Johnston said. "It's very hard to ask a guy like Dan to do things and anticipate things a guy who's been playing that position for years can do.
"The other thing is, it takes time to get into a rhythm with how your running back runs. It took me a season-and-a-half to really get in sync with Emmitt. I would sit with him in the film room and find out why he did what he did on a play. What he saw. Why he ran that way instead of this way. Dan doesn't have that with Westbrook. He can't. Not in this short a time span. Not with as little experience as he has at that position."
A running back and a fullback are like a dance team. They have to be on the same page. They have to know what each other is thinking.
"When I played with Ricky [Watters], he knew how I was going to read a play," said former Eagles fullback Kevin Turner, who led the way for three of Watters' 1,000-yard rushing seasons in Philadelphia. "He knew how I would look at the [defensive] alignment and see whether the end was going to be stunting down and whether we needed to take it outside or inside.
"The more you play with somebody, the more familiar you are with each other and what they like to do and how they like to do it."
Turner, now retired and living in Birmingham, Ala., spent his entire career as a fullback. High school, college, 8 years in the NFL. He can't believe his old team is trying to get by with a defensive tackle at fullback. He was even more incredulous over its attempt to turn Hunt into a fullback.
"Trying to put a tailback who had sat back there in the 'I' and put him down in a fullback position at that late stage is next to impossible," he said. "No. 1, they don't really want to do it. They might say they'll do it because they want to make the roster. But you've really got to like it and want to do it."
Most NFL teams don't use the fullback as much as they did 10 to 15 years ago. The three-wide receiver, one-back, one-tight-end set has become the formation of choice for most coaches, particularly pass-happy ones like Reid.
Turner estimates he was on the field for as many as 80 to 85 percent of the offensive snaps when he played for the Eagles under offensive coordinator Jon Gruden. Johnston put his reps with the Cowboys at about 60 to 65 percent.
"Today, I'd be lucky to get 30-35 percent," Johnston said.
Klecko generally plays only about 30 percent of the Eagles' offensive snaps. On Sunday, he played 11 of the Eagles' 39 snaps in the first three quarters.
"It's a reflection of what has happened to the offenses in the league," Johnston said. "The main focus is on throwing the ball. The Rams' 'Greatest Show On Turf' was the worst thing that ever happened to fullbacks. It was all about trying to find mismatches in the passing game. Once [offensive coordinators] started going down the ladder trying to create those mismatches, the fullback was the first guy off the field.
"It's interesting that two of the teams that still put a high priority on the fullback and running the ball - the Giants and the Tennessee Titans - are the best teams in their respective conferences and are a combined 17-1. That's not bad." *
Reid has defensive ends playing tackle, offensive tackles playing guard, speed rushing ends playing linebacker, an Aussie Rules Footballer punting and a defensive tackle playing fullback.
Oh, and in an offense that throws the ball 2 out of 3 plays he has no clear-cut #1 receiver.
It's a shock they're even a .500 team over the past four years.
...and both of his kids are drug addicts and his wife is a whore....good times.
It's not reasonable how angry that article has made me.
It was fun watching Madison Hedgecock blow up the Eagles LBs while Brandon Jacobs darted past him.
FYI Hedgecock makes $550,000 this season. You don't always need a power back like Jacobs to have a power running game, you just need the lineman and FB to execute.
And while we're on the subject, why isn't Buck getting more carries? When given the chance he's done more than well as a 2nd back.
Hedgecock was awesome in that game. Every block I saw him throw, he squared up his man and stopped him dead. It was awful to see.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 12, 2008, 09:46:23 AM
Hedgecock was awesome in that game. Every block I saw him throw, he squared up his man and stopped him dead. It was awful to see.
He took out more than one defender more than once too. Probably would have been less likely to happen if the LBs didn't play out of position...
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 12, 2008, 09:43:55 AM
And while we're on the subject, why isn't Buck getting more carries? When given the chance he's done more than well as a 2nd back.
Not only that, but if Westbrook is not healthy, Buck is more effective.
when has that ever mattered? buck does reasonably well whenever called upon. he is just never used enough.
last yrs giants game where had close to if not 100yds in the first half, he was again underutilized in the second half. in fact they gave up on the run game completely.
I guess Big Red has forgotten what having a real FB does for the offense; someone channel the ghost of Jon Ritchie.
Quote from: stalker on November 11, 2008, 10:36:41 PM
Coughlin sucked til last year.
I disagree. He did a pretty good job with Jacksonville. He just needed to get rid of whiny bitches like Tiki and Shockey to make it work.
Coughlin has always been a good coach. He just couldn't get over the hump. He's no different in game now than he's ever been. He may have changed from monday-saturday but on game day he's the same coach I remember him always being.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 12, 2008, 06:24:07 PM
Coughlin has always been a good coach. He just couldn't get over the hump. He's no different in game now than he's ever been. He may have changed from monday-saturday but on game day he's the same coach I remember him always being.
And he got rid of whiny bitch Tiki and had Shockey break his leg. Man, I would love Jacobs and Boss on our team.
Coughlin is a piece of shtein scumbag.
Google "Brian DeMarco" to see what sort of piece of garbage Coughlin was in Jacksonville, and from what I understand, remains in New York.
BTW: If there's ever been a team that won it all to spite the head coach, the 2007 Giants would be that team.
I found this article:
link (http://www.endzonebuzz.com/50226711/brian_demarco_fights_nfl_players_association_for_disability_pay.php)
which links to this one:
haha (http://www.endzonebuzz.com/50226711/donovan_mcnabb_could_be_fantasy_football_sleeper.php)
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 12, 2008, 06:54:56 PMMan, I would love Jacobs and Boss on our team.
I'll pass on Jacobs. He's good now, very good. But unless he's special in a hall of fame sort of way, he'll be unremarkable in 3 years. He's too big. It's too easy for any two bit defensive player to get a solid hit on him. He'll break down and be gone sooner than later.
Unless he's special, of course.
Quote from: Diomedes on November 12, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 12, 2008, 06:54:56 PMMan, I would love Jacobs and Boss on our team.
I'll pass on Jacobs. He's good now, very good. But unless he's special in a hall of fame sort of way, he'll be unremarkable in 3 years. He's too big. It's too easy for any two bit defensive player to get a solid hit on him. He'll break down and be gone sooner than later.
Unless he's special, of course.
Well, he has an SB ring and he hits the LOS with such speed for a big man on pitchouts. Probably on roids!
Quote from: Diomedes on November 12, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 12, 2008, 06:54:56 PMMan, I would love Jacobs and Boss on our team.
I'll pass on Jacobs. He's good now, very good. But unless he's special in a hall of fame sort of way, he'll be unremarkable in 3 years. He's too big. It's too easy for any two bit defensive player to get a solid hit on him. He'll break down and be gone sooner than later.
Unless he's special, of course.
I can't believe anyone would say that after seeing him destroy Laron Landry. He doesn't
get hit by defensive players, especially two bit ones.
He hits
them.
He already looks special.
Quote from: shorebird on November 12, 2008, 07:56:31 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on November 12, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 12, 2008, 06:54:56 PMMan, I would love Jacobs and Boss on our team.
I'll pass on Jacobs. He's good now, very good. But unless he's special in a hall of fame sort of way, he'll be unremarkable in 3 years. He's too big. It's too easy for any two bit defensive player to get a solid hit on him. He'll break down and be gone sooner than later.
Unless he's special, of course.
I can't believe anyone would say that after seeing him destroy Laron Landry. He doesn't get hit by defensive players, especially two bit ones. He hits them.
He already looks special.
I agree. On pitchouts, where the first man he meets is an OLB or corner he is brutal. But Boss is awesome. The Giants were so much better last year after Shockey got injured. I'd vote him for Pro Bowl.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/3025622301_01bd8aef2d_o.jpg)
Quote from: Rome on November 12, 2008, 08:55:04 AM
Reid has defensive ends playing tackle, offensive tackles playing guard, speed rushing ends playing linebacker, an Aussie Rules Footballer punting and a defensive tackle playing fullback.
That punter is probably a better tackler than any of the linebackers. A better punter, too.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 12, 2008, 09:42:03 PM
Quote from: Rome on November 12, 2008, 08:55:04 AM
Reid has defensive ends playing tackle, offensive tackles playing guard, speed rushing ends playing linebacker, an Aussie Rules Footballer punting and a defensive tackle playing fullback.
That punter is probably a better tackler than any of the linebackers. A better punter, too.
Strweth, Sav should be MVP of this team, cobber. Being an Aussie Rules player didn't hurt Darren Bennett.
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 12, 2008, 06:14:56 PM
Quote from: stalker on November 11, 2008, 10:36:41 PM
Coughlin sucked til last year.
I disagree. He did a pretty good job with Jacksonville. He just needed to get rid of whiny bitches like Tiki and Shockey to make it work.
If you say he did a pretty good job in Jacksonville, how can you think Reid sucks here?
Quote from: stalker on November 12, 2008, 10:14:55 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 12, 2008, 06:14:56 PM
Quote from: stalker on November 11, 2008, 10:36:41 PM
Coughlin sucked til last year.
I disagree. He did a pretty good job with Jacksonville. He just needed to get rid of whiny bitches like Tiki and Shockey to make it work.
If you say he did a pretty good job in Jacksonville, how can you think Reid sucks here?
It's a fair point. Maybe Reid will do what Coughlin did, and become a head coach only again and that will get him over the hump.
Why did we even sign Kyle Eckel if we aren't going to use him?
In case Klecko gets hurt, silly.
lololol...the coach and rb of the team that just a. ran over the eagles and b. won the superbowl both suck
got it
Quote from: stalker on November 12, 2008, 10:14:55 PM
Quote from: henchmanUK on November 12, 2008, 06:14:56 PM
Quote from: stalker on November 11, 2008, 10:36:41 PM
Coughlin sucked til last year.
I disagree. He did a pretty good job with Jacksonville. He just needed to get rid of whiny bitches like Tiki and Shockey to make it work.
If you say he did a pretty good job in Jacksonville, how can you think Reid sucks here?
Their in-game coaching styles could not be any different.
The only similarities they share are 1. They're stubborn and not 'players coaches' and 2. In their first coaching stints they didn't win a championship.
Other than that they are nothing alike.
andy reid = good person and horrible coach
tom coughlin = horrible person and good coach
Ha. Nice.
Andy's not even a good person, actually.
a good person wouldnt have brit reid as a son
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2008, 08:20:39 AM
andy reid = good person and horrible coach
tom coughlin = horrible person and good coach
No, the point is that if the only way to judge how good of a coach someone is is by counting Superbowls they won, then until 2008 Coughlin=Reid.
And along that same line of logic,
Brian Billick= Mike Holmgren = Tony Dungy = Dick Vermiel = Mike Ditka > Buddy Ryan = Marv Levy
Quote from: stalker on November 13, 2008, 09:59:28 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2008, 08:20:39 AM
andy reid = good person and horrible coach
tom coughlin = horrible person and good coach
No, the point is that if the only way to judge how good of a coach someone is is by counting Superbowls they won, then until 2008 Coughlin=Reid.
obviously that is not the only way nor even the best way
Jason Whitlock's 10 worst coaches (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=8789802#sport=NFL&photo=8789818). Andy is finally #1 at something.
Quote from: paco on November 13, 2008, 02:04:14 PM
Jason Whitlock's 10 worst coaches (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/pgStory?contentId=8789802#sport=NFL&photo=8789818). Andy is finally #1 at something.
I fixed the link, jerky.
Mmmmm, link jerky.