QuoteEagles | Reagor to undergo surgery
Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:30:36 -0700
Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid said DT Montae Reagor (knee) will have knee surgery Monday, Aug. 18. He did not practice Saturday, Aug. 16. Reid did not say how long he may be out of action.
QuoteEagles | R. Brown day-to-day
Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:34:37 -0700
Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid said WR Reggie Brown (hamstring) has a strained hamstring. He did not practice Saturday, Aug. 16, and is considered day-to-day. Reid noted the hamstring strain is in the opposite leg of the one he has dealt with Achilles' problems earlier in training camp.
QuoteStop using the quote function, dingus.
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Funny, but I know you were saving that for an occasion just like this.
I actually used to use it constantly until I was told to stop. This thread required that it be brought out of retirement.
A thread to list the injuries sucks/
Why is that?
Don't take it personally Phreak. The first two posts were gold. Then Rome farged it up. rjs tried to save it, but I think it was too late. Once we get to Page 2 with real info, it will be OK again.
Quote:-D
this
Quotethread
is
Quotefarging
awesome.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2008, 12:19:29 AM
A thread to list the injuries sucks/
Why is that?
Injuries suck. It's good to have a thread to talk about them in, imo. I wonder if Browns injury makes diff as to wether they cut HB or not. Brown has lingering injuries in both legs now.
I'm shaking my head man. Before training camp, we are all sitting around waiting for Brown to have a breakout year, and figured, or I did at least, that we would have a real good OL to protect McNabb. Well, now our best O-lineman has a bad case of clinical depression, and the guy everyone wants to be the no.1 receiver has two bad wheels. Nice.
I guess you can talk about Andrews in the injury thread and be in the right place. He's injured in the head.
I think it's great to have all this information in one place.
Best pre season thread!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2008, 12:19:29 AM
A thread to list the injuries sucks/
Why is that?
I was mostly referring to the original useless responses, not the thread itself. Yes I understand the irony of adding a useless response to mock the useless responses...
threads just ok
EVERYONE DIE
that would be one hell of an injury report
Yes, but there'd be no one left to read it. Or write it, I guess.
Howie Roseman will last forever!
QuoteDefensive end Chris Clemons is day-to-day with a calf strain, which Reid said is a setback to Clemons' learning curve. The former Oakland Raider signed in March and is trying to learn a new system.
"He can use every rep he can get," Reid said. "Obviously, when you're new in a system, you make sure that you practice. He can use the reps, but again, I want to make sure that he's healthy before he goes out there."
Clemons has been a disappointment so far.
Quote from: shorebird on August 17, 2008, 08:27:13 AM
Injuries suck. It's good to have a thread to talk about them in, imo. I wonder if Browns injury makes diff as to wether they cut HB or not.
I talked to coach Reid about it. He said he was going to wait and see as the situation develops. Plus, I don't think it makes too much of a difference since I'm not on the team, but thanks for your concern.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2008, 09:08:16 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 17, 2008, 12:19:29 AM
A thread to list the injuries sucks/
Why is that?
I was mostly referring to the original useless responses, not the thread itself. Yes I understand the irony of adding a useless response to mock the useless responses...
pointing this out is useless
*Actual Injury Comment
Why the farg do we have similar repeat injuries types w/our players? WTF is the training staff doing? Lis-Franc nabbed a couple guys(Not a overly common injury) Sports hernia is the new Lis-Franc. Name another team that has had 3 players with sports hernia requiring surgery...
Semi good news on Dawk:
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Injury Update: Dawkins Has Ankle Strain
August 22, 2008 | Last Updated: 8/23/08 12:03 AM ET | Comments (8)
By: DAVE SPADARO
FOXBOROUGH, MA -- Free safety Brian Dawkins left Friday night's game with what head coach Andy Reid described as an "ankle strain," an injury that will be updated once Dawkins has an MRI on Saturday.
Reid will provide an update on Sunday when the team returns to practice at the NovaCare Complex.
When asked after the 27-17 win over New England if he had an idea of the severity of the injury, Reid said, "I don't. We X-rayed it and there wasn't a break there, so we'll see what the MRI says."
Dawkins left the game in the first quarter after he was involved in a tangle down the field. He left the field, was examined by head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder and then was taken to the locker room on a cart.
His injury was the most notable of the night. Center Jamaal Jackson suffered a concussion and left the game in the first half.
Wide receiver Kevin Curtis underwent surgery to repair a sports hernia on Thursday, and Reid provided an update after Friday's game.
"I can't give you a time on that (Curtis' return) . I don't know that. When I do, I'll tell you," said Reid. "It wasn't the worst one we've seen and it wasn't the simplest one we've seen. They felt like they went in and did a pretty good job with it, so we'll see how he does here. These next couple of weeks will be pretty important and we might have a better idea after a few weeks here."
Good to hear its not broken, I thought it was.
way to go stewart :yay
by far the best part of the game...andy at his presser today
"There are no injuries to talk about."
when is the last time you heard that...not even a mildly sprained ankle or a thigh contusion...NOTHING
Maybe he's pulling a Bellichick?
Considine's swollen vagina didn't get mentioned?
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=16096
Unlike other teams in the league, the Eagles may actually be getting healthier. Reid said that receiver Reggie Brown was feeling better on Monday and may practice Thursday. If Brown's ready, Reid said he may start against Dallas.
"Reggie actually feels pretty good today," Reid said. "He's going to continue to rehab. We'll see where he is once we resume. The players will be in today, then they're off Tuesday and Wednesday and then back on Thursday. We'll see how he does for Thursday. If he can get a little work in, then we'll do that. If not, we'll just play it day-by-day there. It just depends on if he's in a full-time role or a part-time role. We'll see."
He also mentioned that receiver Kevin Curtis is progressing nicely as he recovers from sports hernia surgery, which is good news for the Eagles. Reid is hoping that Curtis could return before the bye week in mid-October.
"He's not going to play this week," Reid said. "But he is doing very well. The month-and-a-half (left on Curtis' injury timetable) takes you to the bye week, so hopefully we can get him back sooner."
Yeah, I'll bet he's feeling healthy alright. It might be the first time in history a person's "injury" was cured by watching television for three hours.
Not the first time at all. Many an athlete has been suddenly cured of nagging injury by watching his understudy outperform him on television.
name 1...you got 30 seconds
hulk hogan
absolutely correct
Why start Brown? Both Baskett and Lewis had 100+ yds and we scored 3 passing TDs. Why mess with a good thing?
Baskett cannot get open in the NFL, that's why.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 08, 2008, 07:03:35 PM
Baskett cannot get open in the NFL, that's why.
This fact does not differentiate him from Brown.
Haha.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 08, 2008, 07:02:29 PM
Why start Brown? Both Baskett and Lewis had 100+ yds and we scored 3 passing TDs. Why mess with a good thing?
youre kidding right...im certainly no huge reggie brown fan but greg lewis?....get the farg outta here with that shtein
reid thinks curtis is coming back before or by the bye week?
what the hell i expected like 10 weeks at the least.
White Lightning
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 08, 2008, 09:48:41 PM
reid thinks curtis is coming back before or by the bye week?
what the hell i expected like 10 weeks at the least.
it was always around the bye week but i just assumed it was all but a given that they would use the bye week to their advantage and give him that extra week
the question is has curtis lost his spot to hank baskett or greg lewis
Even when Curtis comes back... I'm not expecting much from him. His core still won't be right... he probably won't be able to move and cut like he'll need to. I don't expect him "back" until '09.
supposedly his injury was very minor in terms of sports hernias and they had surgery very early in the injury...no idea if that will make a difference compared to what other players have gone thru...i mean duce and sheldon played thru the injuries and had good years where as donovan and lj couldnt
btw nice usage of "core"...very impressive
Glad you liked it.
My chest swelled with pride as it flowed from my brain through my fingers and to the keyboard...
Then it made igy swell with EagleFeva love.
Why all the hate on Greg Lewis? Don't get my wrong, I'm certainly not saying he's a #1 or 2, but he's proven to be a capable receiver in this offense.
as long as hes the 5th or 6th wr i have no problem with him...but when you start talking about bumping reggie brown down in favor of greggy no way
the very sad part about it...Greg Lewis gets open more and has more big plays than Reggie Brown.
I agree with Feva, you don't get your guts cut on and recover all the way in 2 months.
for those keeping track, I think Greg Lewis is a very good #4 and an excellent #5. I don't get the hate for him either.
Wherever you want to put him on the WR depth chart, everybody should readily admit he's made some big plays in some big games. Aside from returns, he's done a lot more good for the Eagles than bad.
Name another wr on this roster that had a td in the Superbowl. ;D
stop blowing greg lewis
all of you
I'm not saying he's good; I'm just saying he's not as bad as you purport.
Greg is great. Shame he can't say much beyond ah, ba, da, but he's still awsomeo'.
hes 5th or 6th wr in the nfl....i said hes fine in that spot...im not sure what youre looking for
He scored a td in the Superbowl, dammitt!!
Jesus. Is there a 4th WR in the league that gets talked about as much as Greg Lewis? He's a non-factor for farg's sake. Any contribution the team gets from him is a bonus and nothing more.
Greg Lewis would Flourish with Tom Brady....
Lewis is a fine 5th receiver, he sucks as a starter and its been proven. The guy basically can step in and catch a CB sleeping by running as fast as Feets can
He got mad skillz, yo'.
werd
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2008, 02:06:59 PM
hes 5th or 6th wr in the nfl....i said hes fine in that spot...im not sure what youre looking for
Sorry - didn't mean to get stuck on something so worthless. I just remember reading how people think he should have been cut which is something I completely disagree with. Hell, it probably wasn't even you.
He should be cut.
He should cut you
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 08, 2008, 08:10:33 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 08, 2008, 07:02:29 PM
Why start Brown? Both Baskett and Lewis had 100+ yds and we scored 3 passing TDs. Why mess with a good thing?
youre kidding right...im certainly no huge reggie brown fan but greg lewis?....get the farg outta here with that shtein
Jesus Christ, how long have I been posting here? My sarcasm > your comprehension.
if that was sarcasm it was a poor showing
On the contrary, it was so silky-smooth all you knuckleheads fell for it.
good point
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 09, 2008, 07:56:41 PM
On the contrary, it was so silky-smooth all you knuckleheads fell for it.
Homo-erotic overtones... :paranoid
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 09, 2008, 09:01:18 AM
supposedly his injury was very minor in terms of sports hernias and they had surgery very early in the injury...no idea if that will make a difference compared to what other players have gone thru...i mean duce and sheldon played thru the injuries and had good years where as donovan and lj couldnt
btw nice usage of "core"...very impressive
Revisiting the topic... maybe IGY's right... and Curtis' injury was a little on the "minor" side.
Curtis back in week 3?? (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-09092008-1587931.html)
QuoteReid said Curtis won't play against the Dallas Cowboys next Monday night but wouldn't rule out anything beyond that. The Eagles will have four more games before their bye.
"He's doing very well, actually," Reid said. "I'm optimistic today that it won't be (a month and a half), but we'll see. The month and a half takes you to about the bye week, so hopefully we can get him back a little sooner."
Six weeks would take Curtis to the taterskins game on Oct. 5. Less than six weeks? That means Curtis would be back either for the Steelers a week from Sunday or the Bears in Chicago on Sept. 28.
"I might surprise you guys," he said. "I'm definitely ahead of schedule."
Thats friggen' amazing. His healing powers must be up there with TO.
or Wolverine.
Gawd, I never thought I'd want Reggie friggen' Lewis back so bad.
Who?
I think he means Curtis Baskett.
oops, I mean Brown.
Cool. I just wasn't sure if you meant Micheal Lewis. Say what you want, but he's a lot better than Consodine.
well your boy Reggie Brown returned to a full practice on Wednesday. You can put his posters back up
Andrews is doubtful :-\
Looks like Reggie Brown might show up
Those two slabs of beef Jackson and MJG need to control that middle. Casey Hampton is like 400 and can cause trouble. Jackson, kind of like how Fraley used to, got owned across his face on Monday by Jay Ratliff.
No fracture on Westy's ankle. MRI tomorrow. Good news. I also posted this in the game thread so go farg yourself.
Worst-case is a lis franc or a high ankle sprain.
I hope the Eagles can hold it down (FEVA!) through the bye and have a 100% healthy Westbrook in week 8.
Worst Case is torn ligaments a la the TO injury i would think
I prefer best case, thank you very much!
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 21, 2008, 08:15:52 PM
Worst Case is torn ligaments a la the TO injury i would think
Shut yo mouf foo
Time to amputate
Rub some dirt on it and get your ass back out there.
DeSean to DGunn: "aw man, he's OK, nuthin serious"
hell with doctors and MRIs.....get out there for Chicago
So the Pimp's on-field follies indicate an IQ of about 85 on a good day, but he's qualified to provide medical diagnoses? That comment is the strongest evidence yet that Westbrook is done for the year.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on September 21, 2008, 08:37:16 PM
Rub some dirt on it and get your ass back out there.
This.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 21, 2008, 08:54:21 PM
So the Pimp's on-field follies indicate an IQ of about 85 on a good day, but he's qualified to provide medical diagnoses?
Even a blind squirrel.....
Blind quirrels don't find nuts because they GET EATEN BY OWLS.
Stop hatin', hater.
McNabb had a bruised chest; doesn't seem like a concern going forward.
Westbrook was hobbling around the locker room on crutches after the game.
Tony Hunt was concussed.
LJ Smith has a sprained back.
Hoydas. All of them.
LJ and his fragile franchise glass back
LJ Smith has a vagina.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 21, 2008, 10:55:47 PM
LJ Smith has a vagina.
...which will be available for penetration after week 5.
LJ Smith doesn't have a vagina, he is a vagina. A lubed up one too, judging by how many times the ball has slipped out of his hands this season.
McNabb - Chest Contusion
Westy - Ankle Strain
Andrews - Back spasms
LJ Smith - unknow getting checked now
Hunt - concussion
looks like Westy will be ok...phew....
doesnt look good for sunday tho
The MRI was good?
LJ Smith seriously has got to lose the little girl panties.
mri showed nothing...its just a bad sprain
andy said he was on crutches yesterday and is limping badly today
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 12:06:22 PM
mri showed nothing...its just a bad sprain
andy said he was on crutches yesterday and is limping badly today
i thought it was a strain, which is less severe than a sprain. Either way i dont think he dresses sunday
cant play next week
next two games vs. dc and @ sf
keep him out til the bye
hell keep him out to the giants game
if need be
he plays when he can go...period
he IS the friggin offense
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 12:29:05 PM
he plays when he can go...period
he IS the friggin offense
Say word.
Even if he only plays at 50% and in nine or ten snaps the whole game, keeping him active would still be better than activating Schobel or some shtein.
This LJ thing is working out well for the FO.
He is proving that he is average and totally replaceable. Look forward to a 4 year, $12 million deal sometime in our future.
If Westbrook can play he needs to play bottom line. None of the games they have coming up are gimmes, with as competitive as the NFC East appears to be they can't afford to lose any games that they should win.
Is there any nickname worse than "Westy"? God, I farging hate when people call him that shtein.
It could be worse, it could be 'Briny'.
Did this get posted already?
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8593896/MRI-shows-no-ligament-damage-for-Westbrook (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8593896/MRI-shows-no-ligament-damage-for-Westbrook)
The link title tells the whole story.
Promising News On Westbrook's Injury
Inhale. Exhale. Feels good, doesn't it? Knowing that running back Brian Westbrook is "day to day" with an ankle strain is a whole lot better than imagining the worst for the superstar back. Andy Reid's press conference was still a bit vague as to the severity of the injury, but Reid described Westbrook as at least a possibility to play on Sunday night in Chicago.
That's great news, because it really could have gone any which way during Westbrook's MRI on Monday morning. He injured his ankle in Sunday's win over Pittsburgh, limped off the field and, with the entire crowd at Lincoln Financial Field holding its breath, walked very gingerly into the locker room for further examinations.
So ... the good news is that Westbrook seems to have avoided any kind of lengthy absence. What we still don't know is if Westbrook is going to play on Sunday against a rough-and-tumble Chicago defense, and then we don't know how long this ankle injury might linger.
Good news for Westy! :yay
I love Westy.
I love his nickname more than I love him
Do you love his nickname or are you in love with it?
You're all a bunch of homos. And gay homos at that.
Any nickname that ends with an "ee" sound is insulting unless it's a pet.
Right you are, Dee.
As your sex dungeon pet, I am honored by the diminutive nickname, thank you master.
I hope, if there is any question of aggravating it, that the Eagles do not play him against Chi-town. We don't need him against those fools and Booker needs the work.
lol @ not needing him against anybody. what are they the 89 Niners now?
I think Booker would fall down when the wind blows.
They can beat Chicago without him. But I prefer to not see him miss more than one game.
Quote from: SunMo on September 22, 2008, 07:37:28 PM
lol @ not needing him against anybody. what are they the 89 Niners now?
ha...exactly
again...when he can go he should go...even if hes used as a decoy some of the time he needs to be out there
Missing Westbrook for a game would be fine if Reid knew how to gameplan for it. Buck is an adequate back and Jackson can stretch a defense. That being said Andy will abandon the run and air it out so they're farged without him.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2008, 08:56:07 PM
Missing Westbrook for a game would be fine if Reid knew how to gameplan for it. Buck is an adequate back and Jackson can stretch a defense. That being said Andy will abandon the run and air it out so they're farged without him.
exactly i think right back to last yrs giants game (first one). buck had 100 yds rushing but running game is abandoned...and we all know the rest.
hopefully a fully healthy brown makes some what of a difference. maybe a extra dropped pass or two.
stolen from the EMB so i dont know if its true or not:
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Sal Pal was on Michael Smerkonish's show this morning and he said he saw McNabb and Westbrook in the locker room at the beginning of the 3rd QTR getting worked on while watching the game on TV. When Kolb threw the pick, Donovan turned to Westbrook and said; looks like I got to go in.
Sal said he saw the bruise on Donovan's chest and it looked really ugly.
when did his chest get hurt? i know the play he was hurt but it looked more like his shoulder/arm.
he landed on the ball on that play
Quote from: Die-Hard on September 22, 2008, 04:02:09 PM
You're all a bunch of homos. And gay homos at that.
At least we're not Mets fans.
Speaking on ESPN Radio 950 in Philadelphia, Brian Westbrook said his injury was "closer to being a high ankle sprain" than anything else.
"But at the same time," Westbrook continued, "A high ankle sprain depends on the person." Westbrook sounded to be in good spirits and said he already felt better after starting his rehab on Monday. Westbrook says he'll try to play Sunday if he's close to ready.
So, what's the deal with Reggie Brown? Still not 100%?
vaginacitus -- it's severe
Eagles coach Andy Reid said the back spasms that kept Andrews out against the Steelers are not improving.
"Backs are crazy things," Reid said. "I'm not very good at predicting those. I don't think anybody is."
Source: phillyburbs.com
Not looking good this week. Mad Max is going to have his hands full with Alex Brown if he starts
Quote from: Diomedes on September 22, 2008, 06:08:10 PM
As your sex dungeon pet, I am honored by the diminutive nickname, thank you master.
Gimp!
Quote from: reese125 on September 23, 2008, 11:11:54 AM
Eagles coach Andy Reid said the back spasms that kept Andrews out against the Steelers are not improving.
"Backs are crazy things," Reid said. "I'm not very good at predicting those. I don't think anybody is."
Source: phillyburbs.com
Never ask a jellyfish about a back injury.
Quote from: reese125 on September 23, 2008, 11:11:54 AM
Eagles coach Andy Reid said the back spasms that kept Andrews out against the Steelers are not improving.
"Backs are crazy things," Reid said. "I'm not very good at predicting those. I don't think anybody is."
Source: phillyburbs.com
Not looking good this week. Mad Max is going to have his hands full with Alex Brown if he starts
i think the point is that a back can go from awful one day to 180 degrees better the next...so im not sure on tuesday you can say its not looking good...plus that reid quote is from yesterday morning
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2008, 08:56:07 PM
Missing Westbrook for a game would be fine if Reid knew how to gameplan for it. Buck is an adequate back and Jackson can stretch a defense. That being said Andy will abandon the run and air it out so they're farged without him.
Whether the game plan is to throw 70% of the time in this game may be a forgone conclusion.
Brian Baldinger on Bears defense (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=16235)
QuoteWhen you play Cover 3 like the Bears play it, everything funnels inside and there are going to be creases. It then becomes a matter of accuracy. If Donovan hits the right spot on the slant routes and the curls and the things that they give you, he is going to have a big day. The Bears are banking that a quarterback's accuracy won't be there all game long and that he is going to take some hits.
You'd think that after losing to Tampon Bay after giving them 407 yards in the air, Lovie would make a change- but it take him 1 1/2 season to figure out that Grossman blows.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 23, 2008, 03:33:54 PM
i think the point is that a back can go from awful one day to 180 degrees better the next...so im not sure on tuesday you can say its not looking good...plus that reid quote is from yesterday morning
Right. I had a back injury a few years ago bad enough to need surgery, they can be hell to deal with. Just when you think you're getting better, you try to do too much and put it out again.
mcnabb (who i didnt doubt) and westbrook both upgraded to probable?
saw it scrolling on the bottom line on ESPN.
Teams don't report out/doubtful/questionable/probable injury reports until Friday. Only thing that is released on Wednesdays is whether or not they practiced.
If someone on the Eagles is being called "probable" this early in the week, it's most likely an off-the-cuff statement by a coach or the player himself. Doesn't carry the weight of a "probable" in the injury report, which is supposed to mean that a player is 75% to play.
neither of them practiced yesterday
Kolb is probably just as good as any QB the Bears have, for whatever that's worth (nothing).
QuoteNO SURGERY FOR SHAWN ANDREWS, YET
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2008, 3:37 p.m.
Eagles guard Shawn Andrews has missed two games with a back injury. At a Monday press conference, coach Andy Reid said that Andrews will see a specialist this week.
For now, however, surgery isn't considered to be a possibility.
Reid said that Andrews' back is "about the same" as it has been. "We have to find a way to get it better, that's what we have to do," Reid said. "The doctors are optimistic about it."
The long-time coach also said that tight end L.J. Smith, who like Andrews missed Sunday night's game with a back injury, is feeling better.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/taterskinsinsider/
QuoteByron on Brian: "I Don't Think He'll Play"Jason La Canfora reports:
taterskins cornerback Byron Westbrook said he would be very surprised if his brother Brian played for the Eagles this weekend. Byron Westbrook said he speaks to his brother, whose presence completely changes the effectiveness and productivity of the Philly offense, nearly every day.
"I don't think he'll play," Byron Westbrook said. "The ankle injury is more serious than what the Eagles put out. You know how Andy Reid is about injuries and giving out information. Just watching him on the sidelines after he turned his ankle [against Pittsburgh two weeks ago], it didn't look good.
"He's a warrior and it's an NFC East game and he wants to play, but its also early in the season and it's not a playoff game. If he goes out and plays at 75 perecent, you could end up making it a lot worse. He would want to get to 90 percent to really be able to play."
Westbrook said he and his big brother, who is getting treatment but, according to the Eagles, is scheduled to practice today, last talked on Sunday.
As he usually does when the taterskins are preparing to face the Eagles, Byron Westbrook will continue to act as his brother on the scout team all week. The taterskins will still prepare in case Brian Westbrook plays.
"We still have to prepare for him regardless," Byron Westbrook said. "And if he can"t play, then we'll just be over-prepared."
If this is true say hello to 2-3
Then there's this:
QuoteRunning back Brian Westbrook participated in the team's walk-through Wednesday morning and could see some reps in the afternoon practice. In other injury-related news, tight end L.J. Smith is expected to be full-go in practice. Meanwhile, right guard Shawn Andrews is having his back examined by a specialist. Also, defensive end Victor Abiamiri had the screws removed from his injured hand and could resume practicing soon.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Sto...?story_id=16313
sounds like to me his brother is basing everything on how 36 looked walking on the sidelines in the pittsburgh game
Do you think Byron only has a job so he can pretend to be his brother twice a year during practice?
I heard he got cut. Is he on the practice squad or something?
I heard he's insignificant and should never be interviewed or discussed ever again.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 01, 2008, 02:24:07 PM
I heard he's insignificant and should never be interviewed or discussed ever again.
if the taterskins win you know damn well that the media will talk about his his brother played him in practice to prepare the taterskins on how to defend/cover brian westbrook.
I can't get over the fact their parents thought it would be cute to name one Brian and the other Byron. Idiots.
I think Diomedes Westbrook would of did just fine
Are they related to Bryant Westbrook?
He's the oldest brother. Antonio Bryant is a cousin.
and Michael Westbrook is their father
And you're all idiots.
Fatass just said that Westbrook has fractured ribs... :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
Hey, at least you and Die-Hard still have the Mets.
It's looking like the season is officially over now.
you motherfarger
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Flushing_toilet.jpg/502px-Flushing_toilet.jpg)
What if Abiamiri and Kevin Curtis come back, though?!?
BAN ME
ummm, wow
Good thing Andy recognized Westbrook might get injured and drafted Felix Jones traded for Lorenzo Booker
ban sb please
Ryan Moats will be here by Wed morning...and he will turn this team around
I figured he'd be out for a while. All that carrying the offense wears him out pretty quickly.
Brian Westbrook, already hobbled by an ankle injury, has another ailment to deal with. From ESPN.com:
Coach Andy Reid said Monday that Westbrook, who was back in the lineup after sitting out last week against Chicago with an ankle injury, broke two ribs on the eighth play of the Eagles' 23-17 loss to the Washington taterskins on Sunday.
Reid would not speculate about Westbrook's availability for the Eagles' game at San Francisco this weekend.
• Westbrook breaks two ribs in game against taterskins (ESPN.com)
If they play Westbrook, I will be angry. Use the bye week, and get him healthy before week 8.
Hell, losing to the 49ers without Westbrook means the team is dead and buried anyway.
this team can and has lost to anyone with westbrook...if he can play he plays...the eagles are not near good enough to have the luxury of holding out their best player against anyone...especially on the road
so, Donovan's not allowed to sneak on the goalline because of bruised chest but Westbrook is allowed to run into the taterskins defense full speed with broken ribs
Has Andy officially adopted Donovan yet?
Quote from: SunMo on October 06, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
so, Donovan's not allowed to sneak on the goalline because of bruised chest but Westbrook is allowed to run into the taterskins defense full speed with broken ribs
Same farging thing Ive been asking all day. Someone needs to stab Andy in the face. Thrice.
he better not play against san fran. if they can not beat the niners it will truly once and for all prove that this coach has no clue on how to gameplan for a opponent, doesnt know how to take advantage of his personnel, and needs to be shot/fired.
you guys vastly overrate this team if you think they are that much better than the 49ers that they can sit westbrook and still have no problem winning
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 06, 2008, 02:57:45 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 06, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
so, Donovan's not allowed to sneak on the goalline because of bruised chest but Westbrook is allowed to run into the taterskins defense full speed with broken ribs
Same farging thing Ive been asking all day. Someone needs to stab Andy in the face. Thrice.
first rule of andy reid...dont beleive a friggin word he says...his brain whiffed in the chicago game and he made horrible calls including not sneaking it...dont believe for a second he was actually making a spur of the moment in game decision not to sneak mcnabb because of some phantom chest injury
Brian Westbrook has 2 fractured ribs christ sakes--no medicine on this earth or any kind of rehabilitation will cure a fracture in 7 days. One helmet to the ribs...bye-bye...take care of yourself
and I love how bye weeks are like spinach to Popeye
This sucks, because now they have their excuse for when they miss the playoffs.
"Westbrook wasn't 100% all season."
Line forms here.........
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And ends here........
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Quote from: ice grillin you on October 06, 2008, 03:07:54 PM
you guys vastly overrate this team if you think they are that much better than the 49ers that they can sit westbrook and still have no problem winning
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 06, 2008, 02:57:45 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 06, 2008, 02:51:38 PM
so, Donovan's not allowed to sneak on the goalline because of bruised chest but Westbrook is allowed to run into the taterskins defense full speed with broken ribs
Same farging thing Ive been asking all day. Someone needs to stab Andy in the face. Thrice.
first rule of andy reid...dont beleive a friggin word he says...his brain whiffed in the chicago game and he made horrible calls including not sneaking it...dont believe for a second he was actually making a spur of the moment in game decision not to sneak mcnabb because of some phantom chest injury
im sorry i do consider them to be better the niners. the niners suck. the niners should not beat the eagles with or without westbrook. thats not being a homer (since i know your next move) but thats just being realistic.
thats not to say they will win but the eagles are superior to the niners talent wise and should beat them without westbrook.
Westbrook gets caked; and then is done.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 06, 2008, 05:23:12 PM
thats not to say they will win but the eagles are superior to the niners talent wise and should beat them without westbrook.
if youre not sure they are going to win you might want westbrook to play
Trade him. Trade him to a contender. Let him have a couple more shots at a championship before he slows down and has to retire.
Westbrook isn't injury prone.
anyone know which play he got hurt on?
i remember right after the TD he was holding his chest area but that couldnt have been the play. he was barely touched on that one.
I heard it was the 8th offensive play for the Eagles
i thought it was the 5th defensive play
I'm thinking it was the 13th offensive or defensive play.
Thats very offensive.
He got hurt on a Chris Cooley donkey punch.
Soooo.............PFT is reporting that Reggie Brown didn't practice today.
Quote from: shorebird on October 09, 2008, 05:16:34 PM
Soooo.............PFT is reporting that Reggie Brown didn't practice today.
good. maybe they can work in desean much more than.
is stallworth light playing this weekend?
when does stallworth white return?
he practiced today again
Curtis needs a haircut. Dude's getting dangerously close to looking like its seashell necklace and flip flops with jeans time.
Trade Reggie For Roy
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 09, 2008, 06:44:20 PM
Curtis needs a haircut. Dude's getting dangerously close to looking like its seashell necklace and flip flops with jeans time.
Pretty sure he wouldn't wear his Eagles jersey at Machu Picchu, though.
:-D
farg you!
Gcobb is reporting that Westbrook and Reggie won't even make the flight to SF
Shawn Andrews - out (back)
J.R. Reed - out (hamstring/ankle)
Brian Westbrook - out (rib/ankle)
Reggie Brown - out (Hoyda)
Juqua Parker - questionable (knee)
Kevin Curtis - questionable (hernia)
Quintin Demps - probable (knee)
Darren Howard - probable (abdomen)
Dan Klecko - probable (hand... good thing he won't have to block or anything)
Donovan McNabb - probable (chest)
L.J. Smith - probable (back)
Victor Abiamiri - probable (wrist)
Super. Bowl.
andrews had back surgery and will be out minimum 6 weeks (ie the rest of the year)
That's just farging super.
Can someone please explain why the farg the surgery wasnt done before the season began??
I was expecting the worst
6 weeks is just in time for the playoffs and super bowl
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 22, 2008, 12:18:28 PM
Can someone please explain why the farg the surgery wasnt done before the season began??
if the guy reportedly came to practice healthy with no problems why would he get surgery?
Quote from: reese125 on October 22, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 22, 2008, 12:18:28 PM
Can someone please explain why the farg the surgery wasnt done before the season began??
if the guy reportedly came to practice healthy with no problems why would he get surgery?
shut up cock breath you said the whole time the back injury was a front for his depression...you will not speak any longer
A 360 pound man suddenly developing back problems after working hard without proper conditioning? I'm shocked.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 22, 2008, 12:25:10 PM
Quote from: reese125 on October 22, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: Die-Hard on October 22, 2008, 12:18:28 PM
Can someone please explain why the farg the surgery wasnt done before the season began??
if the guy reportedly came to practice healthy with no problems why would he get surgery?
shut up cock breath you said the whole time the back injury was a front for his depression...you will not speak any longer
jesus christ youre dumb
He came to camp mentally farged up, out of shape and not ready to play football. Give the guy a farging physical then and see his back is farged and operate on him.
End of story.
I wonder how his depression is doing. I'll bet it's going well.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 22, 2008, 12:31:14 PM
I wonder how his depression is doing. I'll bet it's going well.
Now he's spreading it to the rest of us.
And its either him or Dio spreading spinal problems to the rest of us as well. I think it may be Dio, since I'm having neckspine problems.
i hate to say it but so far the amount time this fat farg has actually played has not been worth the pick.
QuoteReceiver Hank Baskett suffered a sprained medial collateral ligament against the Browns. Reid indicated there's a chance he might not be available for Sunday's game at Washington. Baskett had already hurt his knee when he went nearly 100 yards to run down Cleveland's Brandon McDonald after the cornerback made an interception. Baskett's hustle saved a TD. . . . Other Eagles who came out of the game banged up were: WR Kevin Curtis (calf strain), Dawkins (back spasms), and G Todd Herremans (sprained anterior cruciate ligament)
Avant hyperextended knee - he's moving around fine today
Runyan's sore - what else is new
Westbrook's knee is swollen - what else is new
rest of the team is fine
As long as Westbrook, Mikell and Samuel are healthy I'm good.
I am extremely relieved that Mikell is fine. No joke, no homo.
Agreed. Replacing the guy with the second most tackles on the team with Sean Consodine could be ugly. What was Consodine's stupid penalty yesterday? I hate that guy.
How about Andrews? Does he get activated this week?
If so, he should only be active as the 6th man. Maybe bring him in and line him up at the TE spot for a goal line play or something. Andrews can be a hell of a player, but you don't shake up the chemistry of the OL during a playoff run.
That said, I am assuming Andrews isn't close to 100%.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2009, 12:11:13 PM
I am extremely relieved that Mikell is fine. No joke, no homo.
Me too.
I puckered up yesterday when #37 came into the game. Keep his Iowa ass on STs where he can inflict minimal damage.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
If so, he should only be active as the 6th man. Maybe bring him in and line him up at the TE spot for a goal line play or something. Andrews can be a hell of a player, but you don't shake up the chemistry of the OL during a playoff run.
That said, I am assuming Andrews isn't close to 100%.
Agreed. Cole is playing damn good ball right now.
If they win the NFCCG and Cole starts the SB but struggles with a 3-4, then you have Andrews ready to go.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2009, 12:22:17 PM
Maybe bring him in and line him up at the TE spot for a goal line play or something.
Imagine that wall of beef.............
The defense would never see Westbrooke.
Not to get the injury thread too sidetracked or anything, but the flag Considine drew yesterday was very weak, and he apparently led the Eagles this season in ST points. That said, he probably made contact too early on his one defensive play of the game, and the team was lucky he didn't draw cloth for it.
Back on topic, I hope Sean Considine hurts someone on STs this week and gets away with it.
if you dont want andrews first action to be in the nfcc then you definitely shouldnt want it to be in the superbowl
he starts when hes in shape and ready to go
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2009, 12:30:51 PM
he starts when hes in shape and ready to go
Agreed. The last we heard was that he was in great cardio shape but really hadn't been lifting or doing anything else. So, I'm assuming he is not "in shape" by Shawn Andrews standards.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2009, 12:30:51 PM
if you dont want andrews first action to be in the nfcc then you definitely shouldnt want it to be in the superbowl
he starts when hes in shape and ready to go
I meant if Cole is getting killed by Ngata or Hampton or having trouble picking up the 3-4 stunts and blitzes. Then you bring Andrews in.
Because him rusty and/or out of shape is better than Winston Justice at all.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2009, 12:28:14 PM
Not to get the injury thread too sidetracked or anything, but the flag Considine drew yesterday was very weak, and he apparently led the Eagles this season in ST points. That said, he probably made contact too early on his one defensive play of the game, and the team was lucky he didn't draw cloth for it.
Back on topic, I hope Sean Considine hurts someone on STs this week and gets away with it.
Also, I remember Considine breaking up a pass when Mikell went out. I'm not a big fan but he isn't bad as a backup.
That's not also. I was talking about that play when I said that he probably should have been flagged. Then again, I guess Andy could just have cursed at the refs and had it picked up, right?
Anyway, back to Andrews... The more I think about it, the more I don't want him attempting to give it a go anytime soon. I'm assuming Reid agrees, or there would have been mention of him.
Must admit that was a sweet hit by Considine.
hit of the game was bucks blitz pick up on the avant 3rd and 20...shtein was sick and in a nutshell why lobooker doesnt dress
Buck was great there.
Also, Considine's hit on STs was textbook.
Quote from: FastFreddie on January 12, 2009, 12:39:59 PM
That's not also. I was talking about that play when I said that he probably should have been flagged. Then again, I guess Andy could just have cursed at the refs and had it picked up, right?
Anyway, back to Andrews... The more I think about it, the more I don't want him attempting to give it a go anytime soon. I'm assuming Reid agrees, or there would have been mention of him.
thats correct
I dont think Reid wastes a roster spot when other positions are a concern for injury
andrews already holds a roster spot
I was really concerned that Curtis would have been injured if that fat bastich who had the interception ( I can't remember his name) would have fallen on him. That guy must be near a 1/4 ton.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 12, 2009, 12:48:34 PM
andrews already holds a roster spot
Yes, but not an active one on game day.
the point is you dont have to cut anyone to play him...unless reese is suggesting that there arent numerous players who could sit for andrews without the eagles missing them
I think he is suggesting that, yes.
i should have known
Andrews hasn't lifted weights since week 2. And that was the only week he was lifting weights because before that he was so bummed out he couldn't do anything but wallow in self pity.
There is no way he's ready to play even one snap in the NFL, much less the playoffs.
Maybe if his head is right he'll be back next year...which is about how long it will take him to get back into shape.
cmon we all know that fat farg is laying around playing xbox and chomping down pizzas and cheesesteaks
Didn't see this anywere. Surgery for Westbrook? (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090131_Eagles_Westbrook_might_need_knee_surgery__source_says.html)
QuoteAn Eagles source said that Westbrook might require off-season knee surgery.
"I think they're running medical tests to determine the source of the irritation," the source said. "If he does need surgery, it's only going to be minor and he may not need it at all. We know he will rest and work hard in the off-season and we're optimistic he'll come back healthy."
Even the possibility of knee surgery for Westbrook is a significant off-season issue for the Eagles, but it also points to the common problem for running backs his age, even great ones.
Seattle Seahawks running back Shaun Alexander was the NFL most valuable player in the 2005 season and led his team to Super Bowl XL. He ran 20 times for 95 yards, albeit in defeat, against the Steelers.
At 28, Alexander was the best
running back in football. The Seahawks rewarded him with an eight-year, $62 million contract after the season and $15 million of that was paid in 2006. Now 31, Alexander is unemployed and his career is probably over.
Westbrook carried the ball 50 times for 119 yards and caught seven passes for 119 yards in the playoffs. Those are pedestrian numbers for a running back who led the NFL in yards from scrimmage in 2007. Westbrook had a crucial 71-yard touchdown reception on a screen pass in the playoff win over the Minnesota Vikings, but he averaged 8 yards for the other six catches and 2.4 yards for his runs.
Westbrook wasn't nearly as dynamic or dangerous during the regular season as he had been in 2007. He dropped from first in the NFL to 18th among running backs in yards from scrimmage after signing a contract extension worth $21 million in early August. In fairness, Westbrook had to deal with an assortment of injuries, including a high ankle sprain and swelling in his left knee that has bothered him at various stages of his career.
Whatever the ailments, it's worth considering whether the Westbrook of 2007 will ever surface again at Lincoln Financial Field. Westbrook declined to be interviewed, but two great NFL running backs talked extensively about the Eagles' star player.
"Should people be worried about him?" Marshall Faulk asked rhetorically. "I'm not going to say 'No.' But what they should see is that, although he did hurt his knee, he continued to play throughout the season. He missed two games and that's what you want. As a running back, people are going to get banged up. You're not always going to feel good, but it's the guy who continues to play versus the guy that sits out and needs time to heal. You can't play running back if you need to sit out and heal up."
Nobody can deny Westbrook's toughness. Once perceived as fragile, Westbrook proved otherwise by averaging 14.1 games per year. Faulk, who played through his share of injuries during his 12-year career with Indianapolis and St. Louis, averaged 14.7 games per season.
"As for being 30, it's a benchmark for when running backs start to feel not so good," Faulk said.
Westbrook is often compared to Faulk, because both have been prolific receivers coming out of the backfield. Faulk, whose career ended at the age of 32 after the 2005 season, said Westbrook's body has less wear and tear than his own at the same age.
"Think about Westbrook's career and his number of touches," Faulk said.
According to the team source, that's exactly what the Eagles think about.
"We do studies on touches versus age," the source said. "If you just take the age into consideration, it would suggest he's winding down. If you study the touches, it shows he has a few good years left."
By the time Faulk reached the age of 30, he had touched the ball 3,158 times in nine seasons. That's an average of 351 times per season. Westbrook, by contrast, has 1,809 career touches in seven seasons. That's an average of 258 per season.
"It's like a boxer," Faulk said. "How many times do you get hit? He hasn't had a lot of touches. His first couple of years, he was just a guy that would come in every once in a while to run a screen and he returned punts. For the most part, I don't think his shelf life is something to be worried about right now."
Terrell Davis, the former Denver Broncos running back who was the best player in football at 26 and finished three years later, agreed with Faulk that Westbrook has some miles left in his legs.
"He's definitely not the same guy as when he first came into the league or even two years ago," Davis said. "But I still think he can be productive. Brian doesn't run the ball a lot. His runs are short passes, but he's still getting banged. I think he can still be productive in terms of his role. If he was getting the ball 20 times a game, you'd be more concerned. I think a guy like him can extend his career. He's a lot like Marshall and Marshall was productive until he left the game."
Faulk, however, was a lot less effective after 30. He never rushed for 1,000 yards after the age of 28.
"You can't show me a 30-year-old man who was the same as he was at 20," Faulk said.
If Westbrook's chronic left knee that has bothered him since his days at DeMatha High School in Washington, D.C., gets worse, it could be an ominous situation. The high ankle sprain he suffered in Week 3 against Pittsburgh could heal with off-season rehabilitation allowing him to come back strong in 2009.
"The only thing worse than a high ankle sprain is a bad toe for a running back," Faulk said. "It demobilizes you. Your lateral movement is off. A knee [injury] is something you can warm up and play with. It's a joint. The high ankle sprain, it's in such a spot that you feel immobile."
When the subject is the health of a running back, the future is always uncertain.
"Very much indeed," Faulk said. "I played on turf my whole career and Emmitt [Smith] played on turf his whole career. I hurt my knee and he didn't hurt his knee. Look at every team, all 53 players on every team, and pick out who's going to blow out their ACL. Would you have picked Tom Brady this season?"
Faulk, who played in two Super Bowls with the Rams, said he thought he was the first to know that his final days were approaching.
"The first guy never used to touch or tackle me," Faulk said. "I was always looking for the second guy who tried to hit me. The minute I started worrying about the first guy, I was like, 'Whoa, that ain't right.' I wasn't hurt when that started happening. I was healthy and the first guy was getting me."
Perhaps that's something to watch when Westbrook returns to work in September.
Least shocking news of the week.
injury prone
They need to look for his replacement because he's on the downside of his career.
its not lorenzo booker?
it can't be Booker because they're supposed to have him and Westbrook in the backfield together for all those special plays
How can you defend against that?!?
Well, according to that one FA list, Ryan Moats is still an Eagle so we already have his replacement... and he farging blogs!!!
Surgery to shelve Eagles' Runyan for 4 to 6 months (http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090207_Eagles_-_Surgery_to_shelve_Eagles__Runyan_for_4_to_6_months.html)
Right knee microfracture
Shows what a bad ass he is by playing all those weeks on that injury.
QuoteWestbrook Has An Ankle Problem
Posted by Mike Florio on June 3, 2009, 9:49 a.m.
On Tuesday, it appeared that the absence of Eagles running back Brian Westbrook from voluntary offseason practice was related to his surgically-repaired knee.
Instead, Westbrook sat out because of an ankle problem.
"His knee is feeling good," coach Andy Reid said, according to Bob Brookover of the Philadelphia Inquirer. "So, yeah, it's just his ankle at the moment."
But the specific extent and origin of the injury isn't clear.
"I wish I could tell you more, but I don't know more right this minute," Reid said. "But we'll know more as we go on here the next couple of days."
Westbrook injured his ankle in September, against the Steelers. It widely was believed as the season unfolded that the knee was causing Westbrook greater problems.
this farging guy-
Comcast Sportsnet in Philadelphia reports that Brian Westbrook has a high right ankle sprain that may require ankle surgery but "should be "ready for the opener
Per ESPN.com
Surgery is for bone spurs, nothing to do with the high ankle sprain, which Westbrook apparently has too.
"Hey Edgerrin, this is Andy..."
How the hell did he get a high ankle sprain?
What do you want with Edgerrin James? 2.8ypc?
interesting you say that..that was westbrooks yd/avg the last 6 games of the season
i dont care who they get phreak really...they need to get veteran help to share the load at tailback after this shtein setback. how many more injuries and surgeries do you need from this guy to make it clear?
Until he's no longer Brian Westbrook. It is June, I'm sure he will be fine once August rolls around.
His ypc the final 6 games was because of his health.
If you want a veteran RB, I'm cool with that. But not Edgerrin James.
I dont know anyone else that is out there to scoop
all reports saying this could very well go into the regular season, and with booker barely even able to make the roster last year, that leaves your fb weaver and a rookie--good times
its a minor procedure, wtf are you talking about? Its a clean up.
And its JUNE. its not going to take him 4 months to heal from this.
Quote from: reese125 on June 03, 2009, 08:41:17 PM
I dont know anyone else that is out there to scoop
all reports saying this could very well go into the regular season, and with booker barely even able to make the roster last year, that leaves your fb weaver and a rookie--good times
No reports said that.
really? interesting
Per rotoworld:
The agent gave no timetable for Westbrook's return, but a source told ESPN that he could be sidelined "well into training camp."
Per PFT:
CSN reported that Westbrook won't be ready until the start of the regular season.
How did "well into training camp" translate into "into the regular season"?
Of course, it's correct to be concerned about Westbrook. The guy is banged up in all kinds of ways and he's coming off a down year.
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 03, 2009, 09:35:19 PM
How did "well into training camp" translate into "into the regular season"?
because reece is a fargin buffoon?
how did I know flappy lip would jump into this?
does it not say csn reports the injury could go into the regular season? idiot
cole called you out for god sakes....its time to go away
and was wrong again as usual--just like you always are
every time you try to one up me I make you feel even more than dumb than your uneducated ass already is--know when to quit because there is so much ammo on you its ridiculous
I'm embarrassed to admit that the term of endearment 'flappy lip' is sort of making me giggle.
You guys can say it is only June, but this guy has had trouble staying healthy his whole career. While I love Shady and think he will be an outstanding pro, they need to think about bringing in someone else. It doesn't look like they have much else on the roster. I am not too excited by Booker, Buckley, and Mendenhall.
I like Mendenhall's potential; but potential doesn't mean shtein unless he gets t done.
ECKEL!!!!
Quote from: Munson on June 04, 2009, 03:10:42 PM
ECKEL!!
Beat me to it! :-D
Speaking of Buckley, does he have much of an upside/potential?
QuoteWestbrook Has Successful Surgery
Posted by Aaron Wilson on June 5, 2009, 3:03 p.m.
Philadelphia Eagles head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder said that running back Brian Westbrook is expected to recover from today's ankle surgery in time for the start of the regular season.
Westbrook had two bone fragments removed from his right ankle and will be in a cast for the next few weeks before being evaluated again by Dr. Mark Myerson, who performed the surgery on the running back today in Baltimore.
"Dr. Myerson says that the surgery was a success," Burkholder told reporters. "It was not a scope as it was reported because you can't scope that portion of the ankle. But he did make an incision, cleaned out scar tissue and then removed two bone fragments. Both of those fragments were in the back of the ankle and on the inside of the ankle, one of those fragments came from the ankle sprain that he had last year.
"There was some inflammation in the tendon that moves his big toe and that's because that tendon was laying up against the loose bone fragment in the back. And, so, Dr. Myerson took the fragment out and then cleaned some of the scar tissue and inflammation out of that tendon. Brian is doing well. He texted us and said he's doing well."
Citing sources, Adam Caplan of Scout.com reported that Westbrook will probably be sidelined for at least the first few weeks of training camp.
Burkholder acknowledged that it's too early to know whether Westbrook will be back in time for training camp.
"I think his rehab is going to be successful, and we'll go into the season without a problem," Burkholder said.
In roughly two weeks, Burkholder projected that Westbrook would be able to do some rehab work in the pool.
"Those little incisions still need to heal, too," Burkholder said. "So, it's not a real big deal for us."
Westbrook had complained to trainers that he was having trouble putting weight on his toes due to the bone fragments.
Burkholder acknowledged that, technically, Westbrook has arthritis stemming from the ankle sprain.
The Eagles don't appear to be inclined toward signing a veteran replacement such as Edgerrin James at this time and are allotting extra playing time to rookie LeSean McCoy as well as Lorenzo Booker at this point. McCoy sprained his thumb at practice today, but it's not considered serious.
"I wanted to see what the outcome of the surgery was," Eagles coach Andy Reid said. "It seems like it's all positive right now. Not that we haven't looked. [The personnel department], they make sure they are on top of every player at every position, so it's not that we aren't on top of the guys that are out there. Do I feel urgency? No. [Not] to bring guys in."
i was at the bar earlier and i saw on espn (without sound) a headline that said westbrook ankle worse than feared....anyone know the deal with that?
Brookover:
QuoteMyerson told the Inquirer that Westbrook's 90-minute surgery was not simple.
"It was a very difficult surgery because of the location of the problem in the back of his ankle," Myerson said. "It's difficult to get into the back of an ankle surgically. That's an area where there are a lot of blood vessels and nerves. He had a lot of loose fragments and terrible inflammation and scarring. I removed the bone fragments and the scarring around the tendons."
Myerson indicated that Westbrook's problem was related to the Week 3 injury he suffered last season against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Despite the difficulty of the surgery, Myerson is optimistic that Westbrook will be ready for the Eagles' Sept. 13 season opener against the Carolina Panthers, but he doesn't think the running back will be able to play in any of the team's preseason games.
"Like any surgery, there is always the potential for problems, but I didn't encounter any during the surgery," Myerson said. "I found what I expected. There were no surprises. Now he has to go through a very extensive rehab and it will be too soon for him to play in the preseason."
Myerson said the surgery he performed on Westbrook is most common among gymnasts and ballet dancers and that he has performed it quite often.
"I've taken care of these types of injuries," Myerson said. "It takes two to three months to get better. It's a fairly predictable course, but it's not a quick recovery."
"Brian texted us and said he was doing well," said Burkholder, who will begin conditioning with Westbrook after a two-week rest period.
"I'm not worried," Eagles coach Andy Reid said.
Put him in a bubble until september.
Westbrook isn't injury prone.
But he is a ballet dancer.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 05, 2009, 03:46:26 PM
i was at the bar earlier and i saw on espn (without sound) a headline that said westbrook ankle worse than feared....anyone know the deal with that?
yeah, it's espn and they sensationalize everything now that there's no active favre talk.
Edgerrin James
Warrick Dunn
Deuce McAllister
Ahman Green
DeShaun Foster
Selvin Young
Najeh Davenport
Rudi Johnson
Michael Pittman
Tatum Bell
Chris Perry
Reuben Droughns
Aaron Stecker
Brian Calhoun
Maurice Hicks
Jesse Chatman
Travis Minor
I'd say Selvin Young....but get deuuuuce.
i want davenport. maybe he'll take a hot steamy dump on banner's desk.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 05, 2009, 05:16:33 PM
i want davenport. maybe he'll take a hot steamy dump on banner's desk.
He could do the world's greatest touchdown celebration ever, though he would probably get a big fine. I'd save it for dallas, maybe christen the new star.
That's like a roster from the neighborhood social security league.
Andy's on the phone with Dorsey Levens as we speak.
Quote from: QB Eagles on June 05, 2009, 09:37:56 PM
Andy's on the phone with Dorsey Levens as we speak.
chris warren wasnt available?
Amp Lee and Darnell Autry, please.
I've got a feelng that Warrick Dunn is gonna be signed.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 06, 2009, 11:35:10 PM
I've got a feelng that Warrick Dunn is gonna be signed.
Works for me.
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Quote from: Munson on June 05, 2009, 04:58:33 PM
I'd say Selvin Young....but get deuuuuce.
Duce Staley.
I've always wondered about the whole 'removing scarring' with surgery thing, doesn't the surgery itself cause new scarring?
<---(not an orthopedic surgeon)
just cleaning out junk that is already impeding the smooth function of joints. Sure the new surgery could do the same thing, but if they are going to clean it out, its usually a mess.
Quoteupdated 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor broke her ankle Monday morning in an airport stumble, then boarded her flight as scheduled and made the roughly hourlong trip to Washington to meet with senators who will vote on her confirmation.
Get
Get? More like hit...
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I hope Westbrook stands up and takes notice. Or at least sits up.
Quote from: Tomahawk on June 08, 2009, 05:49:58 PM
Get? More like hit...
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Go for it, crip can't fight you off
No way - she can still kick, punch, and talk
probably wouldn't fare well in court either
Celek - sprained AC joint
Peters - re-injured his quad
That was it from Andy's postgame conference
So when's Chad Lewis coming outta retirement to play TE?
when is stan walters
Celek's feeling better... he'll practice on Monday.
has there been an update on weaver today after the mri
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 21, 2009, 04:41:58 PM
has there been an update on weaver today after the mri
Eagles aren't confirming whether he had an MRI, but they are saying late this afternoon that the diagnosis remains the same as yesterday... sprained left knee MCL.
that clears it up
how long does that take to heal
Perfect world = 2 weeks
Because he plays for the Eagles = 3 weeks and then it snaps and he hits the IR. And we'll get a Josh Parry/Dan Klecko type passed off as a real FB.
At least we know he won't have a staph infection
I just read on the EMB that someone saw on FOX29 that Weaver has a torn MCL.
I haven't seen a link or anything yet.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 22, 2009, 01:14:34 AM
I just read on the EMB that someone saw on FOX29 that Weaver has a torn MCL.
I haven't seen a link or anything yet.
Well no one else has said anything about this, so I'm guessing the guy on FOX, if he said it at all, just misspoke. Even if it was torn, Weaver could still be back for the opener depending on the tear.
I was starting to like the Weaver signing more and more, too. I know they won't use him properly even if he's healthy, but he was the only guy I've ever seen interviewed on the sideline that didn't sound like he's a mouthbreather and/or reading prepared statements. I was expecting him to say at the end "C'mon, lets go grab a beer."
According to Brookover, Weaver took part in the walkthrough today and said his knee is "definitely a lot better."
It looks like Stacy Andrews and Jason Peters are going to be back for the Jaguars game, but Shawn Andrews says he still has pain in his back and there doesn't seem to be any plan for getting him back on the field.
If he were a horse, they'd have shot him for trying to farg a barbed wire fence.
Seriously with Andrews. He doesn't play a glamor position, but I have a hard time thinking of any other player that was so good at what they did, and then all of a sudden, were just completely useless. If he doesn't play a snap all preseason, and Justice continues to improve, they better not just hand the RT position to Andrews to start the season.
andrews either needs to play or kill himself
yeah id be willing to be shawn sits another one out. coward
Inquirer:
QuoteIt's baby steps with Shawn Andrews and the Eagles tackle took another one today, participating in outdoor workouts with the training staff. Since the start of camp, Andrews -- who's been sidelined with a sore back -- has taken his treatment indoors.
Today he was one of several Eagles to go through a series of stretches and exercises. Fullback Leonard Weaver (knee), linebacker Omar Gaither (knee), defensive end Darren Howard (groin) and linebackers Tracy White (shoulder) and Charleston Hughes were right there alongside Andrews.
Tackle Jason Peters (quad) was back and took part in team drills, along with defensive end Trent Cole (shoulder), cornerback Sheldon Brown (ribs) and quarterback Kevin Kolb (knee).
The offensive line has been besieged with injuries, but coach Andy Reid said yesterday that Peters and guard Stacy Andrews (knee, still practicing) could play in the Eagles' third preseason game Thursday against the Jaguars.
stop being a fat farging bitch, take a pill and get your ass on the field.
the only thing less interesting than the vick fiasco is the andrews melodrama. i'm with igy on this one... either get in the game or toss yourself off the walt whitman.
Any chance he just doesn't like preseason?
who cares if the retard likes it? he gets paid to be a professional and he's acting like a c*nt.
farg him.
Because I'd prefer him to be a lazy big baby then a big baby with a sore back.
you'd want a lazy big baby on your team?
that's super.
Quote from: jihadist monk on August 23, 2009, 05:35:36 PM
Any chance he just doesn't like preseason?
Last year he was saving himself for the superbowl, right?
we'll never know
Runyan had a sore back during all 8 yrs he was with the eagles and that never stopped him from playing or going through camp. Andrews is a beast on the field but he's got 10 lbs of vagina between his ears. And we thought bobby t was bad.
So with all that said, if he shows up week 1 and plays well, and continues to then no complaints?
The odds of that happening are about as high as MDS being able to grow facial hair.
Is he hurt or is he injured? :paranoid
Another blow to what is shaping up to be a big, season long problem:
Quote
Eagles' Herremans to miss start of season
By Bob Brookover and Jeff McLane
Inquirer Staff Writers
Now the Eagles know their projected starting offensive line won't be ready for the start of the season.
Coach Andy Reid revealed after last night's game against Jacksonville that left guard Todd Herremans will undergo surgery today to repair a stress fracture in his left foot.
The Eagles initially thought that the fifth-year offensive lineman had nothing more than a stress reaction and would be ready for the Sept. 13 opener against Carolina, but a magnetic resonance imaging test this week revealed the fractures.
"He'll miss a couple games here," Reid said. "We'll see how the surgery goes."
Nick Cole, who started the final four regular-season games and all three playoff games last season at right guard, will replace Herremans in the starting lineup.
"It's a setback," said Eagles offensive tackle Winston Justice, who has been filling in for ailing right tackle Shawn Andrews. "He's one of the leaders on the line. He's going to be missed."
Andrews, who has a sore back, might practice Saturday, Reid said.
Lol at Andrews "might" being back Saturday. Bitchmade.
I don't even worry about Herremans being out. Nick Cole is more than adequate as a fill in.
But the problem is 4/5 of these tools have been sitting in the hot tub since camp opened.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on August 28, 2009, 03:27:11 PM
Another blow to what is shaping up to be a big, season long problem:
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Eagles' Herremans to miss start of season
By Bob Brookover and Jeff McLane
Inquirer Staff Writers
Now the Eagles know their projected starting offensive line won't be ready for the start of the season.
Coach Andy Reid revealed after last night's game against Jacksonville that left guard Todd Herremans will undergo surgery today to repair a stress fracture in his left foot.
The Eagles initially thought that the fifth-year offensive lineman had nothing more than a stress reaction and would be ready for the Sept. 13 opener against Carolina, but a magnetic resonance imaging test this week revealed the fractures.
"He'll miss a couple games here," Reid said. "We'll see how the surgery goes."
Nick Cole, who started the final four regular-season games and all three playoff games last season at right guard, will replace Herremans in the starting lineup.
"It's a setback," said Eagles offensive tackle Winston Justice, who has been filling in for ailing right tackle Shawn Andrews. "He's one of the leaders on the line. He's going to be missed."
Andrews, who has a sore back, might practice Saturday, Reid said.
Lol at Andrews "might" being back Saturday. Bitchmade.
He's getting it repaired. Its not going to be a season long problem.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 29, 2009, 08:12:36 AM
Its not going to be a season long problem.
link?
i hope hes fine and he may be but a stress fracture on the wheel of a 350 lb man tends to linger/reinjure
Maybe human bodies weren't designed to be that heavy and violently collide with each other, but I'll be damned if it doesn't make for entertaining theater.
I love when coaches say a couple of games with fractures. this is not TO we're talking about whos a freak and light on his feet.
at least 4 weeks minimum for the bone to heal mixed in with rehab...id say hes gone for more than a couple games.
A stress fracture is completely different from what TO had.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 29, 2009, 02:32:39 PM
A stress fracture is completely different from what TO had.
LOL...exactly.
I wasnt comparing injuries apples to apples-- my point being that the guy has a fractured bone and is 150lb's or whatever heavier than TO.
QuoteEagles | Gaither injured Monday
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Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:36:11 -0700
Jeff McLane, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid said during a radio interview that LB Omar Gaither (ankle) sprained his ankle during practice Monday, Aug. 31
warm and fuzzy feelings
So how many days do the Eagles have to wait after publicly demoting Mays before they start talking about how awesome he is again?
QuoteReid hinted left guard Todd Herremans might miss more than the first two weeks. Herremans had surgery for a stress fracture. Nick Cole and Max Jean-Gilles will share time at that spot, with Cole starting.
This I don't mind as much...I think those two can handle it. Although it'd be smart to not rotate guys in.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 09, 2009, 04:07:56 PM
QuoteReid hinted left guard Todd Herremans might miss more than the first two weeks. Herremans had surgery for a stress fracture. Nick Cole and Max Jean-Gilles will share time at that spot, with Cole starting.
This I don't mind as much...I think those two can handle it. Although it'd be smart to not rotate guys in.
Not until week 3, anyway.
lol shawn andrews didnt practice today
Back or brain?
all Seltzer said was that he was walking slowly between fields
Wonderful.
Is that vadge Winston Justice still hurt?
Who would play RT? Would Stacey slide out and MJG take over RG?
o/u julius pepper sacks
12
Runayn will be the opening day starter at RT
under
8
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 10, 2009, 02:19:38 PM
Runayn will be the opening day starter at RT
and he'd be in excellent game shape too
Yep.
If Peters isn't on his game, and we haven't seen anything to suggest he will be, it could be a long day. And with other weaknesses I would bet they move him around a bit
Panthers are getting two points and are +115.
Just saying, home dogs are hard to come by...
i just dont get that line at all...andy reid with a good team is poison in an opener
a panther taterskin parlay is so money this weekend
Make that getting 2.5 /+120 today...
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2009, 03:11:28 PM
i just dont get that line at all...andy reid with a good team is poison in an opener
a panther taterskin parlay is so money this weekend
just say the word lock and ill ride your coat tail the opposite way all year long Brandon
Panthers/Vikings parlay for the wins.
Quote from: methdeez on September 10, 2009, 03:21:15 PM
Make that getting 2.5 /+120 today...
that makes more sense
Quote from: reese125 on September 10, 2009, 03:21:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2009, 03:11:28 PM
i just dont get that line at all...andy reid with a good team is poison in an opener
a panther taterskin parlay is so money this weekend
just say the word lock and ill ride your coat tail the opposite way all year long Brandon
put everything on kareem rush
hell no...sam dalembert is a lock
The EAGLES are going to sign the rest of the Andrews family and he'll be fine
DGunn reporting McNabb has cracked ribs, out 2-4 weeks
(&@#&*@&*#*(&@#*(&@*)#&
at the most, he misses the next 2 games and comes back after the bye. watching kolb go toe to toe next week with drew brees should be an instant classic.
One full week of Kolb, and two of Vick? Bwahahahaha!
couldnt have said it better, Kolb is the worst player to ever wear an eagles jersey. 10 yard drop backs all day. cant wait
so this sucks
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 13, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
at the most, he misses the next 2 games and comes back after the bye. watching kolb go toe to toe next week with drew brees should be an instant classic.
ha, good point
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 13, 2009, 04:24:21 PM
couldnt have said it better, Kolb is the worst player to ever wear an eagles jersey. 10 yard drop backs all day. cant wait
He is absolutely one of the worst QBs to ever play for this team. I mean, worse than Hoying's worst.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2009, 04:51:23 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 13, 2009, 04:24:21 PM
couldnt have said it better, Kolb is the worst player to ever wear an eagles jersey. 10 yard drop backs all day. cant wait
He is absolutely one of the worst QBs to ever play for this team. I mean, worse than Hoying's worst.
its really sad, since this team has had some horrible horrible qb's, but he's that bad. I dont ever remember seeing a player suck so much.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/wire/sns-ap-fbn-mcnabb-hurt,0,6114828.story
One rib cracked. Geez, I like it when he runs, but he wanted that TD so bad, he ends up getting hurt. dammitt Jim.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=18726
Can't they cut one of the 7 or so WRs (like Reggie Brown) and sign Garcia?
jesus mcnabb is a farging Hoyda
lol..why is he a Hoyda. He tooka rib shot and it cracked. That's a Hoyda?
And I'm tired of Carolina hitting him and breaking his ribs...same shtein in the NFCCG.
And people wanted McNabb to run and be tough, he runs and takes on a guy and powers it into the endzone and someone else rib shots him and he gets hurt. Yeah, total Hoyda
tell me where there was a hit anywhere in that play where someone would break multiple ribs
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Cracked rib? That's just a little more time in the jet tub after the game...
your a blind drunk. carolinas one DT, easily over 300lbs fell on mcnabb late as mcnabb was rolling to get up. it was late. 300 lbs of man beast falling onto your back/side. sleep it off and watch the replay dumbass.
sure he did
i heard the CIA shot his rib
lol. hater
remove his penis from your mouth at least till he wins a superbowl...at which time you have permission to stick it in your butt
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2009, 07:21:33 PM
remove his penis from your mouth at least till he wins a superbowl...at which time you have permission to stick it in your butt
Ok Iggy this one is just dumb. Sorry, only way I can call it. The man took a hell of a shot while defenseless, on the ground. I can't imagine he will miss much time if any but the rib will be a target.
Quote from: Displaced on September 13, 2009, 07:31:17 PM
[ I can't imagine he will miss much time if any but the rib will be a target.
hes out thru the bye week....other than that hellbe back tomorrow
your words tonight will be quoted for centuries to come, much like Plato or Socrates.
Wow, IGY...I am hoping when you sober up tomorrow morning, you see what an absolute douche you sound like right now.
Right, because he's so eloquent the rest of the time.
please watch the replay of the injury and tell me anything happened...ive come to except exceptional homerism from this place but this is outstanding
just cause he didnt puke doesnt mean hes all of a sudden brett farve tough
What actually happened was two rib gremlins came out of the defender's sock. They burrowed into McNabb's back and started gnawing away at the bones to get to the marrow. Faerie doctors will go in tomorrow with arthroscopic wands to conjure the gremlins into new bone. McNabb will be back after the bye.
might as well have been cause i never seen someone writhe in pain over seemingly nothing like he did today...the ghost of one of michael vicks dogs will hopefully get him in the lineup sooner rather than later....because cobb cannot start next week...
wow, you are retarded tonight
Quotebecause cobb cannot start next week...
This is about the only thing you've said that I can agree with all night.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2009, 08:33:00 PM
might as well have been cause i never seen someone writhe in pain over seemingly nothing like he did today...the ghost of one of michael vicks dogs will hopefully get him in the lineup sooner rather than later....because cobb cannot start next week...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68f7VIFhQGo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68f7VIFhQGo)
Go around the 3:59 mark, where you'll see the lineman flying into his back with his knees.
trying to figure out how he survived that
that wasnt even in the top 100 hits of the game
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2009, 09:25:03 PM
trying to figure out how he survived that
that wasnt even in the top 100 hits of the game
No one said it was a huge hit. It's just one hit placed right, enough to crack a rib.
Quote from: Beermonkey on September 13, 2009, 09:35:14 PM
No one said it was a huge hit.
Quote from: mussa on September 13, 2009, 07:14:12 PM
easily over 300lbs fell on mcnabb late as mcnabb was rolling to get up. it was 300 lbs of man beast falling onto your back/side.
One person.
He got kneed right in the wrong place.
Have you ever had your rib broken? I've had a few and depending on WHICH rib it is, it can be either a minor pain in the ass or something so bad, you can't move in any direction, breath or even BLINK without pain.
Who cares. Idiots.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 13, 2009, 09:49:34 PM
I've had a few and depending on WHICH rib it is, it can be a minor pain in the ass.
lol pg broke a butt rib
I wish someone would break your face rib.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 13, 2009, 09:49:56 PM
Who cares. Idiots.
IGY does. He's just salty because his skins lost.
If it had happened to igy, he'd probably still be laying there.
wouldnt have happened thats the point...in fact i dont know that its ever happened in nfl history where someone broke ribs on a play like that
oh, you mean a play where the guy runs hard, scores a TD and then gets hit late after the play?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 13, 2009, 10:15:59 PM
wouldnt have happened thats the point...in fact i dont know that its ever happened in nfl history where someone broke ribs on a play like that
Yeah, I think he was wore out running through the defender for the td, and just wanted out of the game, so he flopped on the ground and faked injury. Then the trainers and everyone else went along with it, of course.
i dont think that...i think his ribs are really boo booed....i just think a normal human doesnt get hurt there
what weve all been waiting for...should be good stuff
reese125 10:28:25 PM Viewing the topic Ok, Injuries....
quite frankly, it can't be any worse than the garbage flowing from your fingers right now....
you clearly dont know mr reese/cole
ill take any kind of igy over reese/cole. even this one.
igy's gonna stick to his guns on this one. No way, no how can he give McNabb the benefit of the doubt on anything. The guy is straight unlucky in the injury department.
Cracked ribs farging hurt. I had two in school from a well placed LBs helmet and I was wheezing like an 85yr old person with emphysema for two weeks.
As soon as he went down all I could think about was the McNabb haters coming out of their holes to rip the guy.
I was in a sports bar in San Antonio watching the game. The joint was packed with fans from all teams. Literally every squad was repped there and the Philadelphia contingent was the most hated.
When McNabb went down the whole place started chanting "karma, karma"...for what, I don't know. Two taterskin fans were behind us (one guy was missing two front teeth) and I asked him what the karma comment meant, and he had no answer other than to tell me how zesty Philadelphia was.
you should have chanted MA MA MA
This wasn't MA...this was west side SA.
A lot of vatos.
Including one mexican guy who had a blue mohawk and was rooting for Dallas
All BS aside..
Reid says there is a chance he plays
Westbrook says he definitely will play
Glazer says he is definitely out
What do you all think happens? What should happen?
I wish Feeley was on the roster and I'd rather have him out there. I would guess that McNabb is out for the next week or two (almost would rather him sit rather than make it worse or throw ducks up there).
Reggie Brown may get cut if they have to sign a QB.
impossible to make a call without know the severity of the injury
if he dopesnt play they lose so i figure hed have to be in excrutiating pain to not play
Westbrook missed a game with the same thing last year. I'd be surprised if he plays against the Saints, and if he does, he won't be effective at all. I don't think you need him against the Chiefs, then you have the bye week, so he should be OK by the Tampa game...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 13, 2009, 11:58:50 PM
All BS aside..
Reid says there is a chance he plays
Westbrook says he definitely will play
Glazer says he is definitely out
What do you all think happens? What should happen?
I wish Feeley was on the roster and I'd rather have him out there. I would guess that McNabb is out for the next week or two (almost would rather him sit rather than make it worse or throw ducks up there).
Reggie Brown may get cut if they have to sign a QB.
I'm guessing he plays. But if he doesn't, they really need to cut Reggie Brown to sign Jeff Garcia. Actually, keep the worthless piece of shtein Brown and cut the even bigger worthless piece of shtein Kolb
Write up the Saints game as the humiliating loss of the season, and keep McNabb the hell out of it. Let Kolb throw it 50 times until someone kills him for all I care.
why are we even worried about it? just run the wild-cat the entire game.
Whatever the spread against the Saints is it isn't big enough.
We could actually see a man's arm fall off on the field with the number of attempts Brees might wind up with.
lol @ signing garcia
mcnabb is beyond fragile and that would literally kill him
The Saints gave up 27 points to the Lions today.
There is no way that isn't a close game I don't care if rjs is the QB.
rjs, beast!
Quote from: General_Failure on September 14, 2009, 12:42:53 AM
Write up the Saints game as the humiliating loss of the season, and keep McNabb the hell out of it. Let Kolb throw it 50 times until someone kills him for all I care.
the problem with Kolb is he gets his WR's and RB's killed, he doesnt understand he's setting them up to take huge hits. He's done it since he was drafted, he has no presence. Needs to die
Quote from: MDS on September 14, 2009, 01:43:20 AM
lol @ signing garcia
mcnabb is beyond fragile and that would literally kill him
What are you talking about? If McNabb is hurt and not playing, its not going to bother him knowing his backup is absolute garbage and they need someone better than him to play vs. the Saints.
That said, they don't pick up Garcia. He's decrepit.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 14, 2009, 12:09:23 AM
Westbrook missed a game with the same thing last year. I'd be surprised if he plays against the Saints, and if he does, he won't be effective at all. I don't think you need him against the Chiefs, then you have the bye week, so he should be OK by the Tampa game...
Agreed. No way he plays next week the way I see it. Even if he did, I don't see him being in good enough condition to help put up enough points to beat the Saints. No real point in playing him. They go 1-1 going into the bye because Kolb/Feeley/Vick should be more than fine to beat KC. Then, McNabb should be good to go just in timeto throw a pick or two to Ronde Barber. ;)
At first, I hated the fact that the Eagles had that early bye week, but under the circumstances, it couldn't come at a better time.
Demps strained his hamstring yesterday, so he'll probably miss some time too. Which means Sean Jones will get o put a uniform on (inactive yesterday).
lol at signing Jeff Garcia. He's done. If they sign anyone it should be Feeley.
Send Kolb out against the Saints and let him suck up the place. Small price to pay for ending this experiment before we see him coming into a game in December or January.
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 14, 2009, 11:05:59 AM
Send Kolb out against the Saints and let him suck up the place. Small price to pay for ending this experiment before we see him coming into a game in December or January.
I am so on board with that.
My biggest concern, though...is that it backfires. Detroit put up 28 on the Saints. With the weapons the Eagles have, it could backfire as they put up 30 despite Kolb.
Andy was screaming at Kolb all game, and turning his head away from Kolb. Even Andy seems done with that fargtard
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 14, 2009, 11:13:02 AM
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 14, 2009, 11:05:59 AM
Send Kolb out against the Saints and let him suck up the place. Small price to pay for ending this experiment before we see him coming into a game in December or January.
I am so on board with that.
My biggest concern, though...is that it backfires. Detroit put up 28 on the Saints. With the weapons the Eagles have, it could backfire as they put up 30 despite Kolb.
Hahahaha. No.
My biggest concern is that he blows and they stick with him anyway, Mike McMahon style.
The Saints defense has a better chance of putting up 30 on Kolb than the other way around.
Injury Update from Big Red..
Demps - hamstring strain, will be a "struggle to make it this weel"
McNabb - fractured rib, "he's gotta try to battle through it this week. I think he will struggle to practice the majority of the week"
Andrews - "still has a sore back"
Herremans - "making progress and getting better"
Mays "making progress"
Reid has not talked to him today, because he is getting treatment. But he said he is pretty sore. This rib fracture is "displaced a little bit" and that makes it a little more painful. The location is on the back right side and there is no danger right now of him puncturing a lung.
He could end up playing without practicing because he's done it before, but as always they are taking it day by day.
it would be funny if 5 can't go for a couple of weeks and Garcia comes in and wins his starts
i think vick starts week 3 if mcnabb still can't go.
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Quote from: LBIggle on September 14, 2009, 06:10:12 PM
i think vick starts week 3 if mcnabb still can't go.
God, I hope not. Next to Kolb, Vick is the second worst QB in the league
Quote from: LBIggle on September 14, 2009, 06:10:12 PM
i think vick starts week 3 if mcnabb still can't go.
no chance of that happening.....the guy is two years removed from football and has practiced in two weeks
herremans out until at least week 7
Im shocked..could of swore he was coming back in a "couple of games"
Pimp - limited practice, listed as questionable with a groin injury
So that's what they call it these days when you're sore from too many women throwing themselves at you?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 16, 2009, 10:05:04 PM
Pimp - limited practice, listed as questionable with a groin injury
practiced in full today
Those of you back home please update on injuries...
I saw on the EMB that Dmitri Patterson broke his hand and would have surgery this week.
Any word on Westbrook's ankle?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2009, 07:54:33 PM
Any word on Westbrook's ankle?
I know he looked slow most of the game
Quote
By Associated Press
5:50 PM EDT, September 20, 2009
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Eagles running back Brian Westbrook has a sprained right ankle and he hopes he'll be able to play next week.
Westbrook had his ankle taped in the third quarter of Philadelphia's 48-22 loss to New Orleans on Sunday. He had 52 yards rushing on 13 attempts.
Westbrook says the ankle feels sore. He had surgery to remove scar tissue and bone fragments from his right ankle in June.
The Eagles play Kansas City next week.
:boom
sit him next week, then he will have the bye also.
Quote from: phillymic2000 on September 20, 2009, 08:08:46 PM
sit him next week, then he will have the bye also.
I agree. It's really not that critical that he play, and I'd rather him get as close to 100% healthy as possible this early in the season. Let McCoy have the start.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 20, 2009, 08:04:50 PM
Quote
By Associated Press
5:50 PM EDT, September 20, 2009
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Eagles running back Brian Westbrook has a sprained right ankle and he hopes he'll be able to play next week.
Westbrook had his ankle taped in the third quarter of Philadelphia's 48-22 loss to New Orleans on Sunday. He had 52 yards rushing on 13 attempts.
Westbrook says the ankle feels sore. He had surgery to remove scar tissue and bone fragments from his right ankle in June.
The Eagles play Kansas City next week.
:boom
the funny thing about this injury is he sat all pre-season and gave it time to rest, and all the analysts and reporters who saw him running in practice/training camp said he looked more explosive than ever. then we even hear from westbrook how phenomenal he feels, etc. etc.
it only took him one game (last week) to really push it game speed to be limited in practice the following week, and then he ran like shtein today...most telling in the open field against one defender. I mean even when he goes in between the tackles he falls straight down
I dont see this ankle healing over the course of the year unless he sat out about 6 straight games which wont happen. its going to be a very long year for westbrook and for us fans hoping he
consistently does well
QuoteDeSean is in pain, and he didn't practice today. The Eagles are hopeful that he will play on Sunday
all that wildcat hoopla is bound to get desean hurt
Just as risky as any other play on the field.
Hell, I'd bet the PR duties would be more risky that the direct snaps
direct snaps where he's running head on into the dline and linebackers is more injury risk than punt returns, imo
yeah how is a play where all 11 defenders on the field know youre getting the ball just like any other play
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 24, 2009, 06:17:49 AM
yeah how is a play where all 11 defenders on the field know youre getting the ball just like any other play
You could say that about both returning punts and the wildcat, unless that is what you are saying. :paranoid
punts are totally different because you can stop the play before it starts anytime you want...and for the start of the play you have at most two guys in your area....thats completely different than a front seven bearing down on you
i understand the idea of wanting to get the ball in his hands as much as possible but id much rather have pimp run a bubble screen a reverse or return a punt than run in the wildcat...let vick do that shtein....if he gets his back broken who gives a farg
Agree with Jackson. Im still in shock how teams even pull off the wildcat anyway.
Im not that big of a fan of the formation, as to me its very predictable. I mean when a receiver gets the snap...yeah...guess whos running? When the rb gets the snap same thing. Oooh the qb is flanked out wide...whats he going to do? Maybe the eagles transform the formation with Vick, who knows... but Id rather them stick with the basics and get their offense in a groove, rather than a farged up wildcat gadget play. Its not like McNabb had a bad year last year in their original offense
it's effective for Miami because ronnie brown is a good runner and they have figured out a way to block the plays well. it also helps that he has an option to hand it off to rickey williams. but everytime the eagles have run it, in the regular season, it's been the guy taking the snap who's run with it. not too much trickery there.
the end aroudn plays have been great though. Should have produced a TD last week from Westbrook to Weaver. I think that andy has some really good plays drawn up, the problem is being too gimmicky.
and speaking of screens mentioned by igy...can I get some? especially with Kolb back there. The eagles go from one of the best screen offenses in the nfl to nathanson.
Im guessing it might have to do with the offensive line not being in sync with each yet...and at this point I want McCoy running them
they couldnt set them up at all last week. If i'm andy, i'm running screens all day to the left side, with Peters and Cole out blocking
Quote from: SunMo on September 24, 2009, 09:19:27 AM... he has an option to hand it off to rickey williams...
OT, but farg you.
I watched that last Miami game and didn't think Williams got enough credit from the announcers..he was banging heads, running like a battering ram. It was impressive, even a little hard to watch because there was a lot of hurt going on. He's old now and doesn't burst but the guy is tough as anyone you can name, I was impressed.
Quote from: reese125 on September 24, 2009, 09:40:15 AM
and speaking of screens mentioned by igy...can I get some? especially with Kolb back there. The eagles go from one of the best screen offenses in the nfl to nathanson.
Im guessing it might have to do with the offensive line not being in sync with each yet...and at this point I want McCoy running them
Amen. Run the goddamn screens. They went through a screen drought last year too. They should use it more, especially with Westbrook needing to have his impact on the defense.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 24, 2009, 10:12:47 AM
Quote from: SunMo on September 24, 2009, 09:19:27 AM... he has an option to hand it off to rickey williams...
OT, but farg you.
I watched that last Miami game and didn't think Williams got enough credit from the announcers..he was banging heads, running like a battering ram. It was impressive, even a little hard to watch because there was a lot of hurt going on. He's old now and doesn't burst but the guy is tough as anyone you can name, I was impressed.
Yep, Williams has run hard the last two years. He's weird as farg, but he'll knock heads and punish people
Dawk Punishes his dreds
That was awesome.
For Sunday:
Herremans - Out
D. Patterson - OUT
McNabb - doubtful
Curtis - doubtful
Demps - doubtful
Jackson - questionable
Westbrook - questionable
Abiamiri - probable
Gaither - probable
Jean-Gilles - probable
Justice - probable
Mays - probable
Samuel - probable
Quote from: QB Eagles on September 25, 2009, 04:53:49 PM
For Sunday:
Herremans - Out
D. Patterson - OUT
McNabb - doubtful
Curtis - doubtful
Demps - doubtful
Jackson - questionable
Westbrook - questionable
Abiamiri - probable
Gaither - probable
Jean-Gilles - probable
Justice - probable
Mays - probable
Samuel - probable
PRE game excuses.....weve reached a new low
McNabb, Westbrook, Curtis all practice, Herremans hopes he might be able to make it back in 3 weeks (even though he just got off a scooter).
QuoteEagles Notes: Sheldon Brown playing hurt, unofficially
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
You won't find Sheldon Brown's name anywhere on the Eagles' injury report, but that doesn't mean he's not playing hurt.
After being a full participant in practice yesterday, the veteran cornerback unwrapped protective padding from his right hand. He confirmed a report from a source close to the situation that he injured his hand during pregame warm-ups against the Kansas City Chiefs.
The injury occurred when Brown ran into a member of the Eagles' security staff who had inadvertently wandered onto the field.
"I think it was during a seven-on-seven drill or maybe the team drill," Brown said. "I was in coverage and I ran into the guy. I never saw him. He shouldn't have been there."
Brown was immediately taken in for X-rays, but he said his hand was not fractured and he doesn't think he should be listed on the injury report.
"There's just some stuff in there," he said before adding that he might have to wear the protective padding for another four or five weeks.
Wear the Freddy Kruger claws as a statement, Sheldon!
the the hell. only on the eagles would that happen
Considering the head of security, Butchie, was the clown who got flagged for 15-yards when they played the Panthers at The Linc a couple years ago....it doesn't shock me one of his underlings was on the field fargin shtein up.
I mentioned this incident in the KC game thread. Sheldon's hand was all taped up during that game, doesn't seem like a big deal.
Peters - sprained knee - MRI tomorrow
Gaither - sprained foot - MRI tomorrow
Abiamiri - sprained knee - MRI tomorrow
bets....
Peters - torn MCL out season
Gaither- high ankle sprain, out until week 9
Abiamiri- torn acl out season
agreed but i might take the over on gaither
all is well tho they have trotter in the fold now
holy ish, at first glance i totally overlooked the whole "bets" thing and thought that was the actual report.
damn near shtein myself. farging a-hole.
You would have shtein yourself anyways....you're white trashy like that.
peters should play this week
gaither being evaluated for a foot sprain
bunkley a rib contusion will be fine
According to PE.com Gaither is likely done for the year with a lis franc.
likely (and hopefully) the end of his eagle career as hes a free agent march first
Knew the lis franc was gonna be the problem....as soon as they said he was going to a specialist, it was a lock.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 22, 2009, 01:51:57 PM
likely (and hopefully) the end of his eagle career as hes a free agent march first
Not Gaither's fault that he is miscast as a starter. He is a solid role player.
whats his role?
he sucks balls...is he even good at special teams?
He is a decent nickel LB. As far as special teams he never has done anything spectacular.
Soooo... the MIKE options are Witherspoon, who's light in the ass for the position, knows about 4 plays at this point and already has a bad back/hip, and Trotter, who hasn't played in two years and looks like it.
Special.
Reid has apparently named light in the ass to start.
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 22, 2009, 02:28:28 PM
Soooo... the MIKE options are Witherspoon, who's light in the ass for the position, knows about 4 plays at this point and already has a bad back/hip, and Trotter, who hasn't played in two years and looks like it.
Special.
He probably knows a good portion of the plays being Spags is the HC in St. Louis.
correct
you dont bring in a MLB mid-season to learn on the fly, but Ive seen worse from reid
Apparently Reid said that Curtis is going to have arthroscopic knee surgery and there is no timetable for his return.
Also, Gaither will not be placed on IR.
media heads are talking that his career is over in the nfl...not that it really ever got started
Is Herremans playing this week?
Yep, starting at LG
So I guess with Curtis out and Gibson traded, Reggie Brown will be the 4th and last WR on the roster.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
Yep, starting at LG
What about Peters? If he's out, I'd rather see Wost Manneans at LT than Dunlap...
edit-I am far too lazy to look this up myself right now.
Quote from: Eagaholic on October 25, 2009, 05:21:39 AM
So I guess with Curtis out and Gibson traded, Na Brown will be the 4th and last WR on the roster.
Fixed.
Quote from: Munson on October 25, 2009, 05:49:23 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
Yep, starting at LG
What about Peters? If he's out, I'd rather see Wost Manneans at LT than Dunlap...
edit-I am far too lazy to look this up myself right now.
Peters is going to play
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2009, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 25, 2009, 05:49:23 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 24, 2009, 05:08:03 PM
Yep, starting at LG
What about Peters? If he's out, I'd rather see Wost Manneans at LT than Dunlap...
edit-I am far too lazy to look this up myself right now.
Peters is going to play
Thank God. Because the Eagles came at the King, and missed.
Westbrook = concussion
Jackson = went into LR early, no word yet.
Harris = ankle x-rays
Probably from when Horton rode down on him as he was going in. He was pimping it... should haverun full speed and quit looking back
Donovan made a bad throw on that...Jackson had to stop and wait for the ball and it let the defenders catch up.
Quote from: SunMo on October 27, 2009, 01:19:31 PM
Donovan made a bad throw on that...Jackson had to stop and wait for the ball and it let the defenders catch up.
he's always had accuracy issues on the short/intermediate routes but over the course of his career he's thrown a relatively accurate deep ball and if anything, misses by overthrowing the reciever rather than underthrowing. so that does make me wonder a little on whether or not his ribs are affecting him some.
Is it bad that I don't even know who Harris is at this moment?
What is LR?
If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, are you gay?
Jackson did some showboating between the 5 and goalline after the catch and that's where he got tackled
Harris = Macho, the Dawk replacement
LR = locker room
and the Dodgers suck again
I don't think Pimp was showboating on that catch. He had to stop his route, catch and then saw Horton flying at him. If anything he got scared and tried to stiff arm, when he should of just turned and hit the gas.
Quote from: mussa on October 27, 2009, 02:19:26 PM
I don't think Pimp was showboating on that catch. He had to stop his route, catch and then saw Horton flying at him. If anything he got scared and tried to stiff arm, when he should of just turned and hit the gas.
He was showboating, Muss...and came up lame afterward. He should have run full speed, as Phreak said...AFTER he caught the ball.
He's obviously been watching too many, "How to finish" videos by Usain Bolt.
Per DNL Reid is not ruling out Westbrook for Sunday. He also said Desean is fine, but he may sit out practice tomorrow.
good news so far...you at least need his ass there to be accounted for by the giants d
i don't think he was show boating either. not to say its not beyond him.. but i think he was checking the status of the defenders due to the ball being kind of under thrown (gasp) and him having to stop and restart.
over/under on games till spoons hurt and out for significant time... 3.
who cares if he was showboating....jesus go root for james thrash if you care that much about shtein talkin
Riverdancing in the end zone does not help check on the status of the DBs. Next time he should use his iPhone like a normal person.
Also, Jame Thrash had one of the more consistently obnoxious celebrations.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2009, 08:25:57 AM
who cares if he was showboating....jesus go root for james thrash if you care that much about shtein talkin
Well if it causes you to get injured then it does matter. He was definitely showboating a little, I have no problems with it just wait until you get into the endzone.
shtein talking doesnt cause injuries...the fact that people even tried to insinuate that pimp got hurt showboating just go to show the lengths people will go to to criticize a guy who may go down as the best offensive player in team history and thats embarrassing
When you turn around to look at the guy and you come up limping after that; its retarded. I love Jackson, but he does do some dumb shtein once and a while.
I am sure his swagger has a lot to do with why he is as good as he is, just don't jeopardize yourself. There is no reason he needs to turn around in that spot, no one in the NFL is catching him from behind. It is not like it takes him long to get to full speed.
if youre worried about him getting hurt worry about his size...trash talking is not why he will ever get hurt
Actually his size doesn't really worry me he has proven to be pretty durable as well as tough. Him at half speed is still better than most.
While it wasn't trash talking flipping into a split with a groin is a little dangerous. I didn't have a major problem with that though he had already scored.
I really hate when he or any player starts doing crap before they score. It at the very least puts you at risk for a turnover.
id start talking at mid field if i played and encourage all others to do this as well
this is why deion might be my favorite non eagle of all time
I think the world of the guy and he is a true bright spot in what looks to be a meh year. But the worry is about that first big shot - that major hit that cleans his clock and what that will mean. He plays with abandon and that contributes to his elusiveness, but nobody wants the magic to end prematurely.
to be fair, though, Deion didn't get tackled much.
he didn't tackle much either. deion was the ish though. used to have his falcons jersey. wish i still did.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20091028_Les_Bowen__The_Eagles__bottom_line__DeSean_hurts_so_good.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20091028_Les_Bowen__The_Eagles__bottom_line__DeSean_hurts_so_good.html)
Quote"It was a double move. I think I went, like, one step in on the end and [Rogers] bit," Jackson said.
Jackson said his ankle was already injured by then; the pain wasn't overwhelming, "but I do think it affected my [celebratory] dance moves a little bit."
as long as pimp doesnt do this im cool...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWK-aam0Jo
can't view the youtube at work but would i be right guessing that's our old buddy gus frerrote?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
as long as pimp doesnt do this im cool...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWK-aam0Jo
that never gets old. :-D
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 28, 2009, 03:34:43 PM
can't view the youtube at work but would i be right guessing that's our old buddy gus frerrote?
Yup - 'ole gus frijoli
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2009, 02:43:17 PM
shtein talking doesnt cause injuries...the fact that people even tried to insinuate that pimp got hurt showboating just go to show the lengths people will go to to criticize a guy who may go down as the best offensive player in team history and thats embarrassing
Wrong.
I love his attitude and his ego. What I don't love is when he slows up to pimp it into the endzone and it causes him unnecessary contact. If he keeps the speed on Horton never touches him and his foot doesn't get twisted under him. Then he can pimp it all he wants.
Score first - then get crazy.
again he didnt get hurt from shtein talking...end of made of story
and he can talk anywhere he farging wants if he keeps pimpin the league like he is
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2009, 04:07:29 PM
again he didnt get hurt from shtein talking...end of made of story
and he can talk anywhere he farging wants if he keeps pimpin the league like he is
this
you want choir boys go root for indy.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2009, 04:07:29 PM
again he didnt get hurt from shtein talking...end of made of story
and he can talk anywhere he farging wants if he keeps pimpin the league like he is
Still doesn't change the fact that he should not have slowed up to cadillac. Again, I am all for his showing off...after he scores
Who the farg said anything about choir boys? All were saying is wait until you score not a difficult concept or is it? :paranoid
rhetorical
cmon flex...mds just found out yesterday that a football is not made of pig skin. dont bother
Quote from: reese125 on October 28, 2009, 05:56:48 PM
rhetorical
cmon flex...mds just found out yesterday that a football is not made of pig skin. dont bother
yeah makes sense since hes really old and was around when they were made of pigskin...if youre going to try and be cute or tricky with your posts at least think them thru before posting
otherwise keep creepin toward munsonville dumb ass
ha...a football was never made out of pig skin you farging idiot....and stop thinking you can come in and save the day with a tough post every time someone busts on your boyfriend because you sound even more uneducated
I'm 99% sure Westbrook will not play sunday, i dont think the league will pass him. They're so scared of bad press i can see the league stepping in with doctors.
pregame monday night the announcers were saying westbrook feels great for the game, first time in along time. what 2 plays deep, knee to skull. goodbye. this guy just can't stay healthy.
yeah, andy not releasing the truth abut him not playing and waiting till game time is only because its a divisional rival. the guy had memory loss when he was hit...no chance the doctors give him the ok
thanks doc
Its not like he had some Glass Joe injury....he took a knee to the head and was unconscious
lol @ a player being a game time decision with a concussion....so at like 12:15 sunday hes going to fail the bassline tests then at game time hes going to pass them...reid is trying to play a stupid mind game with the giants to trick them into thinking westbrook could play...it goes to his massive arrogance that he thinks this is going to effect them at all...not to mention its not like teams are game planning for him anymore
Quote from: reese125 on October 29, 2009, 11:50:27 AM
ha...a football was never made out of pig skin you farging idiot....and stop thinking you can come in and save the day with a tough post every time someone busts on your boyfriend because you sound even more uneducated
so why would he think it was still made out of pigskin if they never were in the first place and hes 20 years old....you tried for the millionth time to be cutesy pie reesie and fit in with the guys and you failed like the clown youre...just stop it...theres a reason youre universally thought of as a douchebag and its to late for that to ever change...but again im begging you dont go all munsonian on us
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hey Phreak, look at all that hotdogging. goddman checking back to see where the defender is, icehole JACKSON!
Quoteyou tried for the millionth time to be cutesy pie reesie and fit in with the guys
bwhaha...you have to be kidding me with this statement. fit in with the guys? ha.....so gay.
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2009, 12:06:49 PM
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hey Phreak, look at all that hotdogging. goddman checking back to see where the defender is, icehole JACKSON!
lol phreak is gonna get so mad....come back to us j!
when i was talking the last two summers about how pimp comes in and out of cuts better than anyone ive ever seen that highlite is exactly what im talking about...not only does he not slow down when changing direction but he actually accelerates out of his cut....i could watch him run patterns at lehigh for a week straight and not get bored
I'm not mad. I stand corrected. I'm cool with being wrong. From the front side angle it looked like he slowed up to turn around and gloat.
But my point still stands, I am all for him hot dogging it...after he scores or the play is dead.
damn, i wanted phreak go get his guns up
I stand corrected along with j, either way Jackson is the man.
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2009, 12:35:51 PM
damn, i wanted phreak go get his guns up
definitely...he was teetering then just barely came back off the ledge
lol jesus christ im staining my underwear area right now looking at that clip....whats so incredible about him is that he is both effortless AND explosive coming out of the cut...how is that even possible
you usually here a lot of hype coming out of former players mouths when they work with young guys pre-draft or in the off-season, but jerry rice was not kidding..ridiculous route
nm
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2009, 12:35:51 PM
damn, i wanted phreak go get his guns up
Saving his anger for the Phillies thread.
If that had been a perfectly thrown ball, we'd have said "great route, nice TD", but the fact it was poorly thrown turned his route and subsequent adjustment into a thing of amazement. I have to agree that was ridiculous and is mesmerizing to watch.
I also stand corrected. From the side view on TV, he certainly looked like he was showboating.
I'm just gonna keep skipping back to page 37 to watch that, becase dammit the idea of having a real (and real young) receiver that can do that after 11 years of busts is something to enjoy.
Bryant Westbrooks! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4603324) (check the page title)
I can't believe you guys argued for two farging pages over whether Pimp was showboating on that play.
:-D
Nervous and mindless loitering in a kind of a waiting room for those wishing distraction from the evenings main events....
Quote from: General_Failure on October 29, 2009, 05:33:18 PM
I'm just gonna keep skipping back to page 37 to watch that, becase dammit the idea of having a real (and real young) receiver that can do that after 11 years of busts is something to enjoy.
Word. I can't stop watching it.
Can you imagine if Pimp had a quarterback who had Brees-like accuracy plus wasn't a mental midget clown?
Yeah, me neither.
Quote from: Rome on October 30, 2009, 08:33:34 AM
Can you imagine if Pimp had a quarterback who had Brees-like accuracy plus wasn't a mental midget clown?
Yeah, me neither.
id take cobb like accuracy right now
I was going to say Jason Campbell-like accuracy, but you know, same thing.
I actually like Jason Campbell. No homo.
Why? He's a poor QB.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 30, 2009, 09:59:13 AM
Why? He's a poor QB.
I think Campbell has the tools to be a good QB in the league. He's been in a disastrous situation since he was drafted. He doesn't do a lot of the bad things your typical bust does at the position.
He has the slowest release in history. But when he gets the ball out he's accurate. I don't actually want him on the Eagles or anything remotely like that, but I wouldn't mind if McNabb were capable of completing 60+% of his passes.
Campbell has all the tools a good NFL quarterback needs. He's got prototypical size and arm strength and he's fairly accurate with a career completion percentage over 60%.
He's been relegated to learning system after system with a new coach seemingly year in and year out. How the farg is a guy supposed to excel or even become consistently competent going through that?
campbell is dumber than a rock and thats why he will never be a good qb regardless of the disadvantageous situation hes been in with the skins
his completion % is what it is because he is incapable of going down field so everything is a quick short high % throw to his first option
he is simply unable to read a defense
are there really heads in here touting Jason friggin Campbell? how much more do you need to see of a guy? the skins are/were predominantly a running football team, so its not like hes there is a hodge podge of passing plays that he cant learn the system and move the ball downfield. he has been given every opportunity
there are plenty of stiff qbs in the league that have size and arm strength--which is exactly what campbell is
Quote from: rjs246 on October 30, 2009, 10:15:45 AM
He has the slowest release in history. But when he gets the ball out he's accurate. I don't actually want him on the Eagles or anything remotely like that, but I wouldn't mind if McNabb were capable of completing 60+% of his passes.
His release could be worked on. He could definitely find success in the right situation. Not interested in seeing him figuring it out with the Birds either, just making the point that he's not awful.
Quote from: reese125 on October 30, 2009, 11:06:15 AM
are there really heads in here touting Jason friggin Campbell? how much more do you need to see of a guy? the skins are/were predominantly a running football team, so its not like hes there is a hodge podge of passing plays that he cant learn the system and move the ball downfield. he has been given every opportunity
there are plenty of stiff qbs in the league that have size and arm strength--which is exactly what campbell is
Nobody is touting the dude. Just saying he's not god awful and/or the reason the skins are awful.
and I think Byron Lefty might have a leg up on him for slowest release in league history
I dont think the release can be worked on Phanin. These guys have been throwing the ball like that for years and its what makes them (in their mind) a better/accurate passer.
You can imagine how many coaches have told them or worked with them that the release has to change..but they cant shake it
i think Campbell is actually a really big reason the skins are so awful.
Quote from: reese125 on October 30, 2009, 11:15:28 AM
and I think Byron Lefty might have a leg up on him for slowest release in league history
I dont think the release can be worked on Phanin. These guys have been throwing the ball like that for years and its what makes them (in their mind) a better/accurate passer.
You can imagine how many coaches have told them or worked with them that the release has to change..but they cant shake it
you absolutey can change a qb's release....happens all the time...problem is the skins coaching staff has either been horribly untalented...in flux or both for cambells whole career so hes never had the proper tutelage
that said the guy stinks and i dont think he would have been a starting nfl qb regardless....basically what matty just said is truth
Im sure it does happen on occasion where parts of the qbs positioning and release is tweaked...but youre now asking a guy to speed up his whole delivery of the ball from take back to release-- something Campbell is not even remotely accustomed to
that said I think you would see even more inaccuracies and growing pains from the guy...but whatever Id rather revert back to what matty said as well
youre not asking a guy to speed up his whole delivery...all you generally have to do to speed up a qb's release is have him not bring the ball as far back...the speed of his actual arm remains the same...all that changes is the distance the arm moves
changing the release speed of a qb is much easier than changing a release point...in fact its simple
its why when drafting a qb you rarely ever hear about a slow release because it can be changed in one mini camp...where as an awkward release point is much more difficult to change and more than that the success rate of a qb after he changes a release point is really low
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mcnabb is so farging phony
Refer to my signature
The Rubber Man?
signature burrito boy
gocong doubtful. fargED
yeah, because he's such a playmaker
how will they survive minus an Engineer? TELL ME THAT
They'll just have to slide Trotter over there. Seriously though, is that waste of roster space still on the team?
i did like how they used him on the goalline, its all he can do is blow up the middle
Quote from: General_Failure on November 06, 2009, 04:39:25 PM
They'll just have to slide Trotter over there. Seriously though, is that waste of roster space still on the team?
Hey, stop that... Trotter can still run. Andy saw that and that's why he's back on the team.
Of course, it would be more helpful if he could still play LB... but, hey... he can still run.
I'll bet he can count to potato.
No picking on Trotter! Or else you will have to deal with me. :poison
In that case, I'll pass. On fourth down!
Tapeh in the flat.
if trotter was covering him touchdown!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 06, 2009, 05:56:01 PM
No picking on Trotter! Or else you will have to deal with me. :poison
It's pretty telling that you never changed the caption under your av from "RIP five fo" dontcha think? ;)
Other than being lazy? No sir.
So I shall change it now. Just for you! :-*
in other news, trotters knees just biodegraded.
Just saw on NFLN:
Westbrook ruled OUT tonight.
shtein.
Off with his head
Sources tell me Jordan's knee is not torn the Eagles don't believe. Could miss a week or two with a sprain, but nothing serious.
Quote from: King Cole on November 09, 2009, 12:07:16 AM
Sources tell me Jordan's knee is not torn the Eagles don't believe. Could miss a week or two with a sprain, but nothing serious.
Great. The Moses sucks and this team can't get any worse with their LB can they? Witherspoon has been great but he can't do it alone out there. I'm amazed how the front office can't adjust to injuries.
Anyway, next year with Bradley and Spoon should be better.
If Jordan can't play, they will probably have to slide Witherspoon over to WIL and have Trotter play the middle. Against Darren Sproles and Antonio Gates.
no way they pull that
this is the eagles, they had tracy white and moses foku playing OLB last night
Quote from: SunMo on November 09, 2009, 10:52:55 AM
this is the eagles, they had tracy white and moses foku playing OLB last night
That was just beautiful how White ran across the field and into Clemons, knocking him out of the play which allowed Romo to hit Crayton for that 60+ yarder before the half.
Impact players.
I'd rather have impact(ed) wisdom teeth. Oh wait, I do!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on November 09, 2009, 10:28:10 AM
If Jordan can't play, they will probably have to slide Witherspoon over to WIL and have Trotter play the middle. Against Darren Sproles and Antonio Gates.
Witherspoon stays MIKE, Gocong is Sam, and Fokou may be WILL.
ESPN told me that Westbrook also had "more work done to his ankle"
QuoteNews: In addition to his concussion, Westbrook is evidently dealing with an ankle issue, the Morning Call reports.
Spin: Coach Andy Reid confirmed that it was the headache Westbrook suffered on Friday afternoon that kept him out of Sunday's game, but added that Westbrook "had some work done on his ankle." Reid didn't specify the nature of the "work," but did say surgery was not involved. In any case, there are now two health variables to be concerned about regarding Westbrook's Week 10 status.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3619 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3619)
Must have hurt it walking for therapy on his other ailments, because it sure wasn't from playing recently. I made the mistake of taking in in Fantasy Football and he's killing me. I hated taking him at the time, but he was the only choice that late....or so it seemed. Stupid hindsight.
probably scar tissue they had to break up. He's done.
of all the runningbacks in the league who are done, westbrook is easily top 3 material.
Today, I don't find myself caring all that much about Westbrook. Weaver and Maclin, mostly Weaver, do pretty well back there. Neither one is Westbrook in his prime, but who is?
mccoy will be soon enough.
Did Ellis Hobbs get hurt?
I noticed Maclin was in there to return a kick. I don't recall a mention of an injury on the broadcast.
And then Caplan posted this...
(maybe for depth since Dmitri Patterson can't stay healthy)
Quotecaplannfl
#Eagles tried to claim CB Jack Williams so it's obvious that they are looking for some depth there
Quotecaplannfl
#Eagles had former #Lions 7th rounder in 2007 CB Ramzee Robinson for a workout this week.
BTW, who committed the holding that brought back Hobbs' TD return? Was it a legitimate call and would it have effected the play? Just curious.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 10, 2009, 11:33:48 PM
BTW, who committed the holding that brought back Hobbs' TD return? Was it a legitimate call and would it have effected the play? Just curious.
moises farg-u
looked illegitimate
Thanks. Moises had an all around horrible game.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
Today, I don't find myself caring all that much about Westbrook. Weaver and Maclin, mostly Weaver, do pretty well back there. Neither one is Westbrook in his prime, but who is?
LeSean McCoy
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 10, 2009, 11:33:48 PM
BTW, who committed the holding that brought back Hobbs' TD return? Was it a legitimate call and would it have effected the play? Just curious.
behind the play. the guy had less of a chance to catch hobbs than feliz cathing damon after he realized lidge wasn't covering 3rd.
hobbs is out for the season.
wasn't that one of fouku's brilliant penalties?
Westbrook concussed again. Nitey nite... the party's over.
Let him finish up the year, but one more this season and his ass better go on IR.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 15, 2009, 07:28:43 PM
Westbrook concussed again. Nitey nite... the party's over.
wow. Knew he was rushed back too fast. What a shame. :(
Whats the word on Sheldon?
hamstring
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 15, 2009, 07:49:05 PM
Whats the word on Sheldon?
Shave.
Seriously, he looks stupid with facial hair.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 15, 2009, 07:49:05 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 15, 2009, 07:28:43 PM
Westbrook concussed again. Nitey nite... the party's over.
wow. Knew he was rushed back too fast. What a shame. :(
Whats the word on Sheldon?
two weeks isnt rushing back
it was actually three weeks
Wouldn't have mattered when he came back. Concussions lead to more concussions, and that's all there is to it.
Brian Westbrook, Philadelphia Eagle RB, 2002-2009.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 15, 2009, 08:40:26 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 15, 2009, 07:49:05 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 15, 2009, 07:28:43 PM
Westbrook concussed again. Nitey nite... the party's over.
wow. Knew he was rushed back too fast. What a shame. :(
Whats the word on Sheldon?
two weeks isnt rushing back
It is when he had headaches last week.
He was cleared by the medical staff. Fact is he's always been susceptible to injury and this latest go-around is no different in that regard. Well, actually it is. This is a career-ender, IMO. If he has any sense whatsoever he hangs 'em up immediately.
Obviously he has no sense right now, but maybe he will regain some of them later.
In any case it's the beginning of the end if it hadn't been already. Trade him to Al Davis for 1st on the first day of trading season.
Quote from: Rome on November 15, 2009, 09:35:59 PM
He was cleared by the medical staff. Fact is he's always been susceptible to injury and this latest go-around is no different in that regard. Well, actually it is. This is a career-ender, IMO. If he has any sense whatsoever he hangs 'em up immediately.
I thought so too, but didn't Steve Young get around 8 before he retired?
Probably, but that doesn't mean he should have continued playing. That goes double for Westbrook, who's playing at a time when people are linking concussions to dementia.
he doesnt have a whole lot left in his non concussed tank anyway...this development barely registers on the uh oh meter
Not from a football standpoint, no. From a "he'd look stupid drooling all over himself at 40" standpoint, it registers.
pretty sure tomahawk could care less about that and thinks he gets paid way to much to play a sport
westcooked.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 16, 2009, 01:28:38 PM
pretty sure tomahawk could care less about that and thinks he gets paid way to much to play a sport
I'll never question your psychological profiles of McNabb again because that's spot on.
Even without the concussion, I agree - Westbrook entered the season with an 1/8 of a tank left
Quote from: General_Failure on November 16, 2009, 01:22:09 PM
Not from a football standpoint, no. From a "he'd look stupid drooling all over himself at 40" standpoint, it registers.
I can assure you that drooling over yourself at 40 is awesome.
That may be, but it looks stupid.
Mr. Westbrook, a Mr. Steve Young is on line 2 for you.
Someone on Facebook just posted RIP to Brian Westbrook's NFL career.
Did he retire?
his brain did
Certainly not anything definitive, but somebody posted this on Igglephans:
Quote
ESPN Radio 980 in DC reporting that Brian Westbrook is considering retirement.
From the EMB "bloghead" thing:
Quote
Westbrook To See Concussion Specialists
Running back Brian Westbrook will visit two concussion specialists in Pittsburgh on Wednesday to assess if and when he can continue his playing career after sustaining his second concussion of the season Sunday against San Diego.
Head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder provided the following info regarding Westbrook's visit to Pittsburgh.
"The Eagles will first have Westbrook consult with neuropsychologist Mark R. Lovell, PhD. Following that visit Westbrook and Lovell will consult with neurosurgeon Joseph Maroon, MD. Dr. Lovell has been consulting with the Eagles' medical staff on Westbrook's recovery from the first concussion during the past three weeks," Burkholder said.
Head coach Andy Reid addresses the media on Wednesday, which you can see on Eagles Live! presented by the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board at 11 AM.
Westbrook suffered the first concussion of his career on Oct. 26 against the Washington taterskins when he was kneed in the helmet by linebacker London Fletcher and briefly lost consciousness. He was then held out of the Eagles' next two games against the New York Giants and the Dallas Cowboys.
Last Sunday against the Chargers, Westbrook suffered another concussion after being hit in the helmet by Chargers' safety Eric Weddle.
-- Posted by Bo Wulf, 3:23 p.m., November 16
Done. Thanks for the memories, Westbrook.
Why even farg around with this? Dude's a millionaire and if he's even remotely smart about his money he'll never have to spend an honest day working again for the rest of his life.
Quote from: Rome on November 17, 2009, 05:58:58 PM
Why even farg around with this? Dude's a millionaire and if he's even remotely smart about his money he'll never have to spend an honest day working again for the rest of his life.
Exactly - and it's not like he's close to any records (that I know of) or is on the bubble for the Hall Of Fame
Quote from: Rome on November 17, 2009, 05:58:58 PM
Why even farg around with this? Dude's a millionaire and if he's even remotely smart about his money he'll never have to spend an honest day working again for the rest of his life.
With each consussion he'll think its a better idea to keep playing.
QuoteEagles Live! presented by the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board
:-D :-D
right now Westbrook might not even be able to remember what a running play is, although that might not have anything to do with his concussions.
:yay
QuoteThe doctors who examined Eagles running back Brian Westbrook today in Pittsburgh reported in a statement that his symptoms have improved significantly since Sunday's second concussion and they expect a full recovery. He will be re-tested in 2-3 weeks, they said.
Westbrook was examined at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center by sports concussion specialists Dr. Joseph Maroon and Dr. Michael Collins.
"We are very encouraged by Brian's progress, we believe that he has an excellent prognosis and we expect a full recovery," Maroon and Collins said in the joint statement. "We developed a comprehensive physical rehab plan for Brian, and we will repeat the detailed testing in the next two to three weeks."
As part of his visit today, the doctors said Westbrook was "re-tested today with a battery of neuro-cognitive tests, including ImPACT (Immediate Post-Concussion Assessment and Cognitive Testing), a computerized tool that is used by all NFL teams for evaluating injury recovery. He also underwent comprehensive physical and neurological exam, results of which were favorable."
The statement said Westbrook was cleared completely from his symptoms after the initial concussion against Washington before sustaining the second concussion Sunday against San Diego. The doctors described the second as a "much milder concussion which was not related to loss of consciousness but associated only with dizziness and headache." Westbrook was knocked unconscious from the initial blow against Washington.
So, at the very best, Westbrook will play 8 games this season.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 18, 2009, 11:57:24 PM
So, at the very best, Westbrook will play 8 more games in his career.
he's mush for brains.
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 17, 2009, 09:59:14 PM
right now Westbrook might not even be able to remember what a running play is, although that might not have anything to do with his concussions.
lol
They said that he still has tapioca for brians and they don't get concerned until they see applesauce. Obviously pudding is career ending.
great news - eskin reporting sheldon will play sunday
Great. Hopefully he'll show up, too.
The Bears receivers suck anyway
they are better than dmitri patterson and ramzee robinson
say word.
QuoteReid: Westbrook out at least three weeks
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 20, 2009 2:37 PM ET
Philadelphia Eagles running back Brian Westbrook is expected to miss at least three weeks following his latest concussion, coach Andy Reid said today.
Jeff McLane of The Philadelphia Inquirer tweets that Reid said today that Westbrook is likely out for the next three weeks.
Geoff Mosher of the News Journal reports that Reid said any decision beyond that will depend on the evaluations of the Eagles' medical staff.
"We'll just see how he feels after that," Reid said.
Realistically, there's no way to say now whether Westbrook will play in three weeks. If he feels fine and the doctors -- both the Eagles' staff and the outside experts Westbrook has consulted -- give him a clean bill of health, he could return. If he's having headaches, dizziness or other symptoms associated with concussions, one would hope the Eagles wouldn't allow him anywhere near the playing field.
But the fact that the Eagles haven't put Westbrook on injured reserve suggests that there's still a chance he can return this year. That return would be at least three weeks away.
he should return just in time to miss the playoffs.
I have McCoy in a money league, but with Reid's farged up game planning it probably doesn't matter if he's starting or not, still won't get many pts.
Reid admitted after the game that Sheldon's hamstring was torn and he still played
That'll teach him to want a new contract.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 23, 2009, 12:39:59 AM
Reid admitted after the game that Sheldon's hamstring was torn and he still played
he looked slow as shtein.
So...he'll be shut down? Have surgery? Keep playing?
Dmitri Patterson, Ramzee Robinson, Jack Ike, Macho Harris and sometimes Asante Samuel.
Yay.
Don't you mean:
Super. Bowl.
nah, he's gonna keep playing. He told DGunn last night that Troy Vincent (who only played 16 games once between 1998 and 2004) was an inspiration to keep playing through injury. Sounds like he's determined to keep his streak intact and show everyone (not just Banner) that he's underpaid...
That should be good news to opposing receivers.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 23, 2009, 12:06:06 PM
nah, he's gonna keep playing. He told DGunn last night that Troy Vincent (who only played 16 games once between 1998 and 2004) was an inspiration to keep playing through injury. Sounds like he's determined to keep his streak intact and show everyone (not just Banner) that he's underpaid...
Good luck, Sheldon.
So if the coaches bench him because of the inevitable poor performance, he will complain. But I can't see how he can not be a liability. Get beat deep, and he'll give more cushion and then they'll work the short stuff on him. Creep up and then he'll get beat deep.
apparently Celek tore ligaments in his hand
not sure when it happened but maybe that explained some of the drops
they showed him having his thumb area wrapped
So potentially no Jackson or Celek next weekend. Or at least a one handed Celek.
London Fletcher is an Eagle killer.
Even worse, no Kevin Curtis. Probably. Is he still on the team?
Reggie Brown is. Donovan said so!
eagles got to draft players with better ligaments
And brains less prone to concussion.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 30, 2009, 12:28:11 AM
Reggie Brown is. Donovan said so!
I saw Reggie in there yesterday. On a McCoy run.
akeem jordan could play this week
pimp doesnt feel bad today and is "ok"....not ruled out for sunday...will be tested during the week
curtis is out
celek has a sprain that he can play with and its not an injury that will not ever require surgery....that said andy would neither confirm or deny if he has a ligament tear or tears
any word on Bunk, i think he's a big loss in the middle
unless i missed it and i dont think i did as i was listening straight thru he wasnt even mentioned during the injuries....altho wip cut in just after andy started so he might have talked about him first
ah, he definitely rolled his ankle, just a freak play when he put his foot down as he was backpeddling.
Dixon is playing pretty good though, so I think he'd be ok filling in for a game if Bunk had to miss
So is Curtis ever coming back? Why keep waiting? Currently he is just wasting a roster spot.
It's not like they have anyone to plug in for Curtis anyways. Maybe Dobson Collins is itching for a promotion.
They don't have to use his spot on a a WR. They could use it on a guy that would help on special teams or even LB. It is not like they have a plethora of LBs.
True.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on December 02, 2009, 04:10:13 PM
It is not like they have a plethora of LBs.
they dont even have three
Exactly my point.
QuoteDefensive tackle Brodrick Bunkley missed practice on Wednesday with an ankle injury, but he fully participated on Thursday.
Other Eagles who fully participated in practice on Thursday were defensive end Victor Abiamiri (knee), cornerback Sheldon Brown (hamstring), tight end Brent Celek (thumb), guard Nick Cole (knee), safety Quintin Demps (ankle), guard Todd Herremans (shoulder), receiver Jeremy Maclin (foot), defensive tackle Mike Patterson (wrist, toe), and cornerback Asante Samuel (neck).
Linebacker Akeem Jordan practiced on a limited basis on Thursday due to a knee injury; on Wednesday, he fully participated.
Also, 10 has not officially been ruled out yet.
He will be today or tomorrow.
little doubt. but this way Andy gets to toy with the Falcons, unnerving them, kinda like using a time out to "ice" the kicker before a PAT.
so CF knows hes out but the falcons dont
Right, because they haven't noticed the trend with every other concussion since it became an issue this season. Stupid Falcons.
i think the commish sent out a memo to teams earlier this week or last stating that players who have a concussion need to be symptom free for a week before they play again. in other words, he asked teams to sit players at least 1 game. i don't think it's actually a rule, but a "strong suggestion" and i think the eagles will take a more cautious approach given the recent concussions to westbrook and seriously doubt the want to put their new franchise player at risk.
OUT:
Kevin Curtis (knee)
Brian Westbrook (concussion)
DeSean Jackson (concussion)
Akeem Jordan (knee)
Everyone else is probable or good to go.
so everyone is good to go except the best player in the nfl?
cool
Westbrook on his concussions
Quote...Even tougher, he said, was listening to the varied opinions about returning to the field.
"You hear all these different stories," Westbrook said. "You hear the worst - from guys dying who had a concussion, you hear about guys with memory loss and things like that.
"You also hear, 'You can probably play next week. I played with a concussion. I had two or three concussions in one game.' . . . So at that point you try to process all the information and figure out what the best thing is to do. I've played with knee injuries and I played with ankle injuries throughout my career . . . but for me, and I think for any player, you can't really live your life without having a brain. You don't expect to leave the game without the ability to think. I don't want to put myself in that position."
There's always coaching, Brian.
haha, i love it when they talk.
Quote from: LBIggle on December 10, 2009, 01:24:29 AM
haha, i love it when they talk.
Westbrook is actually pretty smart. He's not your normal idiot jock.
he just talks like a retard
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 10, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: LBIggle on December 10, 2009, 01:24:29 AM
haha, i love it when they talk.
Westbrook is actually pretty smart. He's not your normal idiot jock.
Let's not kid ourselves. He may be more well spoken or even more intelligent than some/most professional athletes. But calling him 'pretty smart' is ridiculous.
Of course having said that, I applaud his decision to consider his future and take his concussions seriously. Especially since he was cooked anyway.
He was pretty smart before his brain turned to paste.
he taking his concussions so seriously that hes trying to play this week
yeah, but he's putting a couch pillow in his helmet
I doubt he makes it to the third quarter.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 10, 2009, 12:51:55 PM
I doubt he makes it to the third quarter.
I doubt he makes it to the third offensive drive
We could both be right at the same time.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 10, 2009, 12:07:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 10, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: LBIggle on December 10, 2009, 01:24:29 AM
haha, i love it when they talk.
Westbrook is actually pretty smart. He's not your normal idiot jock.
Let's not kid ourselves. He may be more well spoken or even more intelligent than some/most professional athletes. But calling him 'pretty smart' is ridiculous.
Of course having said that, I applaud his decision to consider his future and take his concussions seriously. Especially since he was cooked anyway.
exactly. while he may be smarter then most jocks.. i doubt if he could find his way out of a taco wrapper without some assistance. especially if he gets another concussion. anyways, someone should tell him he only seems to get concussions vs the taterskins.. he should be ok now. he might buy it.
Quote from: General_Failure on December 10, 2009, 12:51:55 PM
I doubt he makes it to the third quarter.
maybe if they don't run the ball before then
jackson is out?
Yahoo's News & Notes says Jackson feels good enough to return punts along with his normal WR duties. Westbrook is out
If there's anyone available out there that can contribute, they should really put Westbrook on IR and get that guy.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 10, 2009, 12:07:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 10, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: LBIggle on December 10, 2009, 01:24:29 AM
haha, i love it when they talk.
Westbrook is actually pretty smart. He's not your normal idiot jock.
Let's not kid ourselves. He may be more well spoken or even more intelligent than some/most professional athletes. But calling him 'pretty smart' is ridiculous.
Of course having said that, I applaud his decision to consider his future and take his concussions seriously. Especially since he was cooked anyway.
Not smart? But he's a college graduate, right?
some of the dumbest people i know have college degrees
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2009, 11:34:23 AM
some of the dumbest people i know have college degrees
Many of them have MBAs for god's sake.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 13, 2009, 11:34:23 AM
some of the dumbest people i know have college degrees
the little guy might not appreciate you talking about him like that.
but yeah, a degree is not a sign of intelligence, it just means that you went to school 4+ yrs longer than i did. and when it comes to big time college athletes getting their degree, it's basically about the same as giving a 5 yr old a gold star in finger painting.
you rarely hear about an athlete getting kicked off the team due to grades.. and its not because their so smart. their definitely taken care of academically if their wanted on the team.
QuoteMaclin out, Westbrook could return for Eagles
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 14, 2009 3:42 PM ET
Eagles wide receiver Jeremy Maclin will miss 1-2 weeks of action with a foot injury, but the Philadelphia could get a bigger part of the offense back in the lineup.
The Delaware County Times writes that the Eagles "quietly confirmed" they expect Brian Westbrook to return to action against the 49ers. "Only a medical setback" would prevent Westbrook from playing, according the report.
Considering all of the concern about Westbrook, we're a little surprised about the news. But this is hardly the first time a player has returned after two concussions in one season.
Andy Reid is also optimistic Kevin Curtis will play Sunday for the first time since Week Two.
Hope Westbrook can be effective and stay healthy through the playoffs, or at least get hurt and come back again in time for playoffs.
I'm not as big on Shady as a lot of people. I think he should do fine as long as he can learn to hold onto the ball and maybe have a few special games, but I don't see him as probowl potential.
Some good points about Westy's return
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20091216_Marcus_Hayes__Westbrook_ought_to_go_for_the_ring__then_quit.html
Quote from: LBIggle on December 13, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
you rarely hear about an athlete getting kicked off the team due to grades.. and its not because their so smart. their definitely taken care of academically if their wanted on the team.
lolz
Quote from: Rome on December 16, 2009, 05:42:28 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on December 13, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
you rarely hear about an athlete getting kicked off the team due to grades.. and its not because their so smart. their definitely taken care of academically if their wanted on the team.
lolz
you forgot one, dum-dum.
What's up with Vick's injury status? Is it just a thigh bruise or hopefully something that's season ending? I know he had one good game this year (against Atlanta), but it's not like the Eagles can always get the plays in on time even when they're not switching QBs in and out. That wasted timeout yesterday because of the QB switch burned my britches
i think every play they ran with vick yesterday annoyed me. even the first one when they had mcnabb at qb and vick in motion. wtf is that stupid ish?
i really do wish the guy well with his attempt to get another starting job in the nfl but it's seriously time to quit tinkering with it. it's been 14 weeks now and it produced 1 good game from vick and that's because the eagles were just all over atlanta that day. the next 2 games will determine who wins the division and whether or not the eagles get a home playoff game. hell, with the vikings loss yesterday the eagles could possibly even jump up to the #2 seed in the nfc so there's too much on the line at this point to keep trying this mickey mouse crap all the time.
he was good in the giants game
Quote from: Tomahawk on December 21, 2009, 12:55:28 PM
What's up with Vick's injury status? Is it just a thigh bruise or hopefully something that's season ending? I know he had one good game this year (against Atlanta), but it's not like the Eagles can always get the plays in on time even when they're not switching QBs in and out. That wasted timeout yesterday because of the QB switch burned my britches
I read it was a bruise/charley horse?
The plays for him yesterday were beyond dumb. It was like all that worked well the last 2 games were for nothing. Reid pisses me off so bad.
its funny people havent figured out that they're only using him in important games.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 16, 2009, 09:12:40 PM
Quote from: Rome on December 16, 2009, 05:42:28 PM
Quote from: LBIggle on December 13, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
you rarely hear about an athlete getting kicked off the team due to grades.. and its not because their so smart. their definitely taken care of academically if their wanted on the team.
lolz
you forgot one, dum-dum.
blow me.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on December 21, 2009, 04:32:18 PM
its funny people havent figured out that they're only using him in important games.
i don't know if that's the case but it crossed my mind yesterday during the game. more like "where's vick?" though.
its like they're just setting him up to get more meaningful snaps in important spots all season. Who knows, but its just what i'm seeing, they're trying to get some boring stuff to setup later looks and plays
what's up with maclin?
Quote from: LBIggle on December 21, 2009, 06:59:18 PM
what's up with maclin?
Practicing this week, we'll see about the game.
Tore one of 2 placiar facitus, and the one he tore is the painful one. Kid basically ripped what dawk couldnt play with for those 9 weeks. Kinda impressive
thats good he's practicing. i thought dawk had a lins franc sprain? is that the same thing?
maybe i'm confusing Dawk with Bobby Taylor, either way, im surprised to see Maclin gutting it out. Reid said last week he tore the painful one of the two strands, and that he should be ok since the other one isnt load bearing.
Quote from: LBIggle on December 21, 2009, 09:30:26 PM
thats good he's practicing.
actually its not...theres no reason he should play in either of these last two games
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 22, 2009, 08:33:56 AM
Quote from: LBIggle on December 21, 2009, 09:30:26 PM
thats good he's practicing.
actually its not...theres no reason he should play in either of these last two games
agreed 100%. He CAN tear it completely and then he's done.
i meant its good he's practicing and not out for the season. a bye would be nice but having him in the playoffs would be better.
you wont need a bye if they just sit him for the next couple weeks
id like to have macklin and pimp running free all over the farging place for 60 minutes on the carpet inside one of those domes in the nfc championship
missed reid's injury report.
Whats going on with Jackson? Sheldon? McNabb? Pimp?
Reid said that Jackson was the only significant injury and that he had a knee sprain MRI tomorrow.
Eskin reports Jackson looks like he has a meniscus tear, in which case he could be back in 2-3 weeks, or else it could be an ACL which would put him on IR. He also says McGlynn will get a look this week at center, which was his natural position so Cole might go to back to guard.
I'm hearing the tests didn't raise suspicion of a torn ACL, but will obviously find out with the MRI tomorrow.
Not sure how he would know it's a cartilage tear for sure without a mri
exactly...farging chinchila eskin
I just hope if Jacksons ok, he gets to run in the wildcat against Dallas this week
I hope your all talking bout Jamal Jackson. Lets be specific here jesus christ, there is a guy named DeSean Jackson as well.
yes, but jamaal was the only one to leave the game with an injury.
torn ACL out for the year
http://www.csnphilly.com/pages/landing_09?Source-Eagles-Lose-Jamaal-Jackson-to-Tor=1&blockID=108332&feedID=704
Eskin, right on target as per the usual.
WTG jackass.
eskin would never make up something about the birds that skews negative...thats was your first clue that it was true
Quote from: Sgt PSN on December 28, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
yes, but jamaal was the only one to leave the game with an injury.
just making sure. i had a mini stroke for a sec
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2009, 11:21:26 AM
eskin would never make up something about the birds that skews negative...thats was your first clue that it was true
He said it was a torn meniscus.
ANd he was DEAD WRONG on TO's injury by saying he was done. In fact, not even done...possibly career threatening.
You two need to just give each other some handjobs already. Enough farging foreplay.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on December 28, 2009, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 28, 2009, 11:21:26 AM
eskin would never make up something about the birds that skews negative...thats was your first clue that it was true
He said it was a torn meniscus.
ANd he was DEAD WRONG on TO's injury by saying he was done. In fact, not even done...possibly career threatening.
He said it was at least a torn meniscus and the Eagles fear he tore his ACL.
This could be a huge problem. Jackson, while not great, was their most reliable OL. I don't really worry about Cole at C, but more about whoever the RG is.
MJG gets punched in the mouth too much, for being as massive as he is. And Stacy Andrews hasn't done anything much except get penalties when he was in there.
Figures the one year we get weapons on offense the weak part is the Oline. FML
Well in fairness the Oline has played much better over their current win streak. This isn't the kind of injury you want this time of year but they are going to have to deal with it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 28, 2009, 04:11:04 PM
This could be a huge problem. Jackson, while not great, was their most reliable OL. I don't really worry about Cole at C, but more about whoever the RG is.
MJG gets punched in the mouth too much, for being as massive as he is. And Stacy Andrews hasn't done anything much except get penalties when he was in there.
Since the eagles drafted him I think MJG is the Eagles best run blocking lineman :paranoid