Suburbia and the end of America. That's the topic of this thread. Here's an excellent article to start with.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2008/07/05/sm_america05.xml
			
			
			
				Your thread starting powers should be withdrawn
			
			
			
				...and his pencil fighting license should be revoked. 
NO ONE can beat me in a pencil fight. NO ONE.  :evil
			
			
			
				If Rome burned while the Emperor fiddled, then what were the more common people doing?
			
			
			
				You really farging expect people here to read a 30,000 word article?
			
			
			
				No, I expected most of them to post smart-ass comments.
			
			
			
				Well, then.  You shouldn't be disappointed.
			
			
			
				Christ. The least you could do is quote the whole thing and bold the parts that push your agenda the most, you lazy bastich.
			
			
			
				My kingdom for the "didn't read" smiley.
			
			
			
				QuoteThe least you could do is quote the whole thing and bold the parts that push your agenda the most
The whole thing is good. It's a complicated far reaching subject that can't even come close to being covered by the 30,000 words (or however many you claim). If someone is interested in gaining further insights into how deep this country is farged then there's a good chance you'll appreciate it.
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Rome on July 02, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
My kingdom for the "didn't read" smiley.
(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/didntread4gd.gif)
So, what's my bounty?  Two grand and a raging case of syphilis?
			
 
			
			
				http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/special_feature/running_on_empty/life_without_cheap_oil.html
Kunstler on life without cheap oil.
			
			
			
				pretty cool story on a new kind of luxury dwelling for lower/middle income people...just so happens to be right down the street from me
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/04/AR2008070401346.html?hpid=sidecar
			
			
			
				This screams low income--Im in
(http://www.archstoneapartments.com/NR/rdonlyres/6DC57213-0F05-455F-9864-1491ED8CE7BC/5125/Maryland_Laurel_Westchester_at_Cherry_Lane_33.jpg)
			
			
			
				Industries have life cycles too.  Unlike the auto industry and the steel industry (here in Bethlehem, PA) the growth industry in this country is now government.  If they run out of money they raise taxes and competitors are forbiden.  Maybe we can be the first counrty to tax our way to prospertity :-\  I would encourage my children to get government, teaching, or health care careers.
			
			
			
				tax cuts have worked beautifully over the last eight years
			
			
			
				Yeah, all those taxes in Europe have just crippled those countries.  Just look at the value of the Euro.
			
			
			
				Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 10:21:59 AM
tax cuts have worked beautifully over the last eight years
8 years of the "chimp".  Thats unfair!
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: Cerevant on July 10, 2008, 10:47:32 AM
Yeah, all those taxes in Europe have just crippled those countries.  Just look at the value of the Euro.
High unemployment..but otherwise ok...BTW....THEY BALACE THEIR BUDGETS!
			
 
			
			
				Quote from: fansince61 on July 10, 2008, 10:52:58 AM
BTW....THEY BALACE THEIR BUDGETS!
By not waging wars that cost $500 Billion a year...
			
 
			
			
				man, do you know what i could do with $500 billion a year?
			
			
			
				Buy everything in Ikea?
			
			
			
				Quote from: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 10:55:49 AM
man, do you know what i could do with $500 billion a year?
All the blow in Colombia?
			
 
			
			
				Donate $200 to breast cancer for no reason other than because you are the bestest person ever?
			
			
			
				pay your way to 1st on the Eagles waiting list?
			
			
			
				i was thinking more like invading Iraq
			
			
			
				Be original for once. Sheesh.
			
			
			
				3rd times the charm, no?
			
			
			
				No.
			
			
			
				Quote from: fansince61 on July 10, 2008, 10:20:19 AMUnlike the auto industry and the steel industry (here in Bethlehem, PA) the growth industry in this country is now government.  If they run out of money they raise taxes and competitors are forbiden.  Maybe we can be the first counrty to tax our way to prospertity :-\  I would encourage my children to get government, teaching, or health care careers.
That is bad news. I watched a report on one of the Sunday Morning news shows that showed the industrial revolution going on in China. The report closed by saying that when the history of the US empire is written, we may go down in history as the country who championed the spread of free trade, democracy, and the importance of globalization, and in the end, we helped globalize all the economies of the world, and forgot to do the same for our own.  :-\
			
 
			
			
				Sprawling on the fringes of the city
In geometric order
An insulated border
In between the bright lights
And the far unlit unknown
Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone
Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone
(Subdivisions)
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
(Subdivisions)
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help to smooth the unattractive truth
But the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth
Drawn like moths we drift into the city
The timeless old attraction
Cruising for the action
Lit up like a firefly
Just to feel the living night
Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights...
			
			
			
				Quote from: Reidme on August 20, 2008, 08:57:30 AM
That is bad news. I watched a report on one of the Sunday Morning news shows that showed the industrial revolution going on in China. The report closed by saying that when the history of the US empire is written, we may go down in history as the country who championed the spread of free trade, democracy, and the importance of globalization, and in the end, we helped globalize all the economies of the world, and forgot to do the same for our own.  :-\
The funny thing they neglected in that story is that a huge portion of that Chinese workforce is producing goods for American companies.
			
 
			
			
				(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg)
Barf.
			
			
			
				is that the set from the truman show?