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Title: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ATV on July 02, 2008, 03:50:27 PM
Suburbia and the end of America. That's the topic of this thread. Here's an excellent article to start with.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xml=/portal/2008/07/05/sm_america05.xml

Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on July 02, 2008, 03:52:31 PM
Your thread starting powers should be withdrawn
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: hbionic on July 02, 2008, 04:02:09 PM
...and his pencil fighting license should be revoked.


NO ONE can beat me in a pencil fight. NO ONE.  :evil
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ATV on July 02, 2008, 04:56:26 PM
If Rome burned while the Emperor fiddled, then what were the more common people doing?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: Diomedes on July 02, 2008, 06:04:25 PM
You really farging expect people here to read a 30,000 word article?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ATV on July 02, 2008, 06:11:16 PM
No, I expected most of them to post smart-ass comments.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: MadMarchHare on July 02, 2008, 06:35:23 PM
Well, then.  You shouldn't be disappointed.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: General_Failure on July 02, 2008, 06:43:55 PM
Christ. The least you could do is quote the whole thing and bold the parts that push your agenda the most, you lazy bastich.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: Rome on July 02, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
My kingdom for the "didn't read" smiley.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ATV on July 02, 2008, 07:26:03 PM
QuoteThe least you could do is quote the whole thing and bold the parts that push your agenda the most

The whole thing is good. It's a complicated far reaching subject that can't even come close to being covered by the 30,000 words (or however many you claim). If someone is interested in gaining further insights into how deep this country is farged then there's a good chance you'll appreciate it.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 02, 2008, 07:29:11 PM
Quote from: Rome on July 02, 2008, 06:46:14 PM
My kingdom for the "didn't read" smiley.

(http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/didntread4gd.gif)

So, what's my bounty?  Two grand and a raging case of syphilis?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ATV on July 03, 2008, 03:20:02 PM
http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/special_feature/running_on_empty/life_without_cheap_oil.html

Kunstler on life without cheap oil.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 10:04:14 AM
pretty cool story on a new kind of luxury dwelling for lower/middle income people...just so happens to be right down the street from me

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/04/AR2008070401346.html?hpid=sidecar
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: reese125 on July 10, 2008, 10:18:01 AM
This screams low income--Im in

(http://www.archstoneapartments.com/NR/rdonlyres/6DC57213-0F05-455F-9864-1491ED8CE7BC/5125/Maryland_Laurel_Westchester_at_Cherry_Lane_33.jpg)
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: fansince61 on July 10, 2008, 10:20:19 AM
Industries have life cycles too.  Unlike the auto industry and the steel industry (here in Bethlehem, PA) the growth industry in this country is now government.  If they run out of money they raise taxes and competitors are forbiden.  Maybe we can be the first counrty to tax our way to prospertity :-\  I would encourage my children to get government, teaching, or health care careers.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 10:21:59 AM
tax cuts have worked beautifully over the last eight years
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: Cerevant on July 10, 2008, 10:47:32 AM
Yeah, all those taxes in Europe have just crippled those countries.  Just look at the value of the Euro.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: fansince61 on July 10, 2008, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 10, 2008, 10:21:59 AM
tax cuts have worked beautifully over the last eight years

8 years of the "chimp".  Thats unfair!
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: fansince61 on July 10, 2008, 10:52:58 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on July 10, 2008, 10:47:32 AM
Yeah, all those taxes in Europe have just crippled those countries.  Just look at the value of the Euro.

High unemployment..but otherwise ok...BTW....THEY BALACE THEIR BUDGETS!
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: rjs246 on July 10, 2008, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: fansince61 on July 10, 2008, 10:52:58 AM
BTW....THEY BALACE THEIR BUDGETS!

By not waging wars that cost $500 Billion a year...
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 10:55:49 AM
man, do you know what i could do with $500 billion a year?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: General_Failure on July 10, 2008, 10:56:58 AM
Buy everything in Ikea?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on July 10, 2008, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 10:55:49 AM
man, do you know what i could do with $500 billion a year?

All the blow in Colombia?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: rjs246 on July 10, 2008, 10:57:42 AM
Donate $200 to breast cancer for no reason other than because you are the bestest person ever?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: reese125 on July 10, 2008, 10:58:30 AM
pay your way to 1st on the Eagles waiting list?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 10:59:57 AM
i was thinking more like invading Iraq
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: General_Failure on July 10, 2008, 11:00:49 AM
Be original for once. Sheesh.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: SunMo on July 10, 2008, 11:02:26 AM
3rd times the charm, no?
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on July 10, 2008, 11:05:19 AM
No.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: Reidme on August 20, 2008, 08:57:30 AM
Quote from: fansince61 on July 10, 2008, 10:20:19 AMUnlike the auto industry and the steel industry (here in Bethlehem, PA) the growth industry in this country is now government.  If they run out of money they raise taxes and competitors are forbiden.  Maybe we can be the first counrty to tax our way to prospertity :-\  I would encourage my children to get government, teaching, or health care careers.

That is bad news. I watched a report on one of the Sunday Morning news shows that showed the industrial revolution going on in China. The report closed by saying that when the history of the US empire is written, we may go down in history as the country who championed the spread of free trade, democracy, and the importance of globalization, and in the end, we helped globalize all the economies of the world, and forgot to do the same for our own.  :-\
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: Phanatic on August 20, 2008, 10:49:47 AM
Sprawling on the fringes of the city
In geometric order
An insulated border
In between the bright lights
And the far unlit unknown

Growing up it all seems so one-sided
Opinions all provided
The future pre-decided
Detached and subdivided
In the mass production zone
Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone

(Subdivisions)
In the high school halls
In the shopping malls
Conform or be cast out
(Subdivisions)
In the basement bars
In the backs of cars
Be cool or be cast out
Any escape might help to smooth the unattractive truth
But the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth

Drawn like moths we drift into the city
The timeless old attraction
Cruising for the action
Lit up like a firefly
Just to feel the living night

Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights...

Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on August 20, 2008, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: Reidme on August 20, 2008, 08:57:30 AM
That is bad news. I watched a report on one of the Sunday Morning news shows that showed the industrial revolution going on in China. The report closed by saying that when the history of the US empire is written, we may go down in history as the country who championed the spread of free trade, democracy, and the importance of globalization, and in the end, we helped globalize all the economies of the world, and forgot to do the same for our own.  :-\

The funny thing they neglected in that story is that a huge portion of that Chinese workforce is producing goods for American companies.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ATV on October 19, 2008, 11:53:25 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Markham-suburbs.id.jpg.jpg)

Barf.
Title: Re: America, now the land of "wide lawns and narrow minds"
Post by: ice grillin you on October 20, 2008, 05:50:26 AM
is that the set from the truman show?