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Title: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: HughC on June 10, 2008, 11:04:15 AM
Here's the link to the full story (http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19751948&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8).  Was Samuel a product of the Patriot's system?  Does his style of play not mesh with the Eagle's defensive style?  Is his contract going to be a problem with other players?

QuoteYou can believe that veteran cornerbacks Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard have been on the phone with each other, talking about the fact that the Eagles gave Asante Samuel "the bank," even though he's not head and shoulders better than them and can't play pure man-to-man defense as well as they are able to.

I could just see their faces as Samuel was beaten a number of times by some of the team's backup receivers in 1-on-1 drills this week. There had to have been some emotion coming up in Sheppard and Brown from the fact that the Eagles had given so much money to a guy who hasn't made a single play for the Eagles, as of yet.

All-Pro and all, Samuel had free agents who are long shots to make the team running right by him. The 1-on-1 drill clearly is not his game.

QuoteSamuel also doesn't seem comfortable coming up into the press technique. He seems to be more at ease when he's playing off the receiver and looking into the backfield to get an idea of what type of route the receiver is going to run.

He's much better when he's coming up on the pass route, rather than turning and running. He wasn't especially strong with his jam of the wideouts when they came off of the line against him when he was in press technique.

I don't want to make more of the matter than it deserves, but Samuel is clearly more of a system left cornerback than Brown or Sheppard.

QuoteWho did David Tyree beat for a touchdown in last year's Super Bowl? It's amazing that the Giants went after Samuel, even though Ellis Hobbs was on the other side.

Hobbs gets beat all the time and got beat for the Super Bowl clincher, but Tyree had beaten Samuel earlier for a score.



Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2008, 11:12:20 AM
i said this from day one...it wasnt a terrible signing but because hes not apreciably better than sheldon or lito it was a completely unnecessary signing and may cause more harm than good
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on June 10, 2008, 11:14:24 AM
According to GCobb Larry Fitzgerald should be an Eagle right now. He's been wrong about a shteinload of other stuff too. Samuel is also playing with a sore hamstring...but I'm sure GCobb didn't bother taking that into account.
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2008, 11:33:45 AM
lets stir up some random negativity in june. yay!
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 10, 2008, 11:39:12 AM
its hilarious how he's made up his mind Asante is a bust.   
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2008, 11:40:45 AM
Quote from: MDS on June 10, 2008, 11:33:45 AM
lets stir up some random negativity in june. yay!


i was doing it in march


Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on June 10, 2008, 11:39:12 AM
its hilarious how he's made up his mind Asante is a bust.  


pretty sure he never said the word bust tho i didnt read his whole piece...in fact he says in it that not to much should be made of this
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: MDS on June 10, 2008, 11:57:06 AM
farg this the season is over
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: methdeez on June 10, 2008, 12:05:03 PM
Basically, the article is saying that Asante is not Champ Bailey.

What exactly would they have spent the money on anyway if they didn't sign this guy?
I guess the could have given Moss a monster offer, but I feel like he wasn't really going anywhere anyway no matter what.
Sign Strahan for $20 million for two years?
It wasn't lke there were amazing free agents this year, there were amazing players who were locked into a team already.

Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: rjs246 on June 10, 2008, 12:11:03 PM
Extending Westbrook?
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: ice grillin you on June 10, 2008, 12:40:23 PM
that was to easy...but correct

or lito (if you had any idea of keeping him)

or signed a wr like berrian for a lot less than it cost to get samuel

or went after a guard to replace herremans


whether you agree with these other options and im not saying all of them are things they should have done but to say that signing samuel for all that money was the right move because the FA market had nothing else in it is pretty silly not just because there were other things they could have done but because thats not a reason to drop 30 mill on someone
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: methdeez on June 10, 2008, 01:04:08 PM
In retrospect, those are good ideas.
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on June 10, 2008, 01:34:53 PM
Alarmism reigns supreme.
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: Geowhizzer on June 10, 2008, 02:53:15 PM
Alright, stuff like this makes ME pine for the offseason to be over, and I just started my summer break.
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: phattymatty on June 10, 2008, 03:24:52 PM
burnt and skewered?  sounds delicious.
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on June 10, 2008, 04:26:29 PM
he needs to wear sunscreen
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: Rome on June 10, 2008, 08:33:40 PM
Garry Cobb would know "burnt" considering he spent most of his career getting chafe marks on his ass from sitting on the bench.

And I'll say it again - the guy speaks and writes like a 7th grade dropout.  Why the farg does anyone lend credence to what he has to say?  What - because he played (barely) in the NFL for a while, that makes him an expert?
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on June 10, 2008, 08:57:33 PM
The sun shined on his ass a couple of times, so the legions over on Dave's boards hang on his every word now.

Personally, I'd probably put more weight into anything Florio says before I would GCobb. His "Shows" are farging hilarious though. Marble mouthed farger.
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: QB Eagles on June 11, 2008, 12:35:24 AM
Summary of the article for those who don't have the time:

Asante Samuel sucks.

But don't get the impression that I think he sucks, I actually think he's a great player who will add a lot.

But in case he turns out to be a bust, remember the first thing I said.
Title: Re: Asante Samuel burnt in practice, skewered by Cobb
Post by: Father Demon on June 11, 2008, 01:02:33 AM
Summary?