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Title: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: smeags on May 19, 2008, 01:52:30 PM
QuoteWriter hits homer with remarks
by Kevin Cooney

With all due respect to Buzz Bissinger's rant on blogs during a recent HBO special, the true danger to sports writing doesn't come from Deadspin, Bill Simmons or any guy sitting in his basement blogging.

The real threat to journalism in the new millennium is Dave Spadaro.

For years, Spadaro has been the Eagles' minister of information — a.k.a. the "Insider" for the team's Web site. Basically, it goes like this: The Eagles' brass thinks it, and Spadaro writes it as fact.

Team doesn't think it needs a wide receiver. Spadaro really doesn't think it needs a wide receiver. Team loves its draft. Spadaro really loves its draft.

For the most part, the rest of the Philadelphia media accepted this as a guy just trying to collect a paycheck and doing his job. Sure, there were some giggles, but Spadaro seemed like a nice guy to those who met him and everybody went along their merry way.

That was until "Spuds" decided to become the lecturer on all things journalism on the first day of minicamp.

He wondered why there were not more positive questions asked of Donovan McNabb, Andy Reid or Brian Dawkins during their press conferences. (Apparently, we are all supposed to be positive about an 8-8, last-place team.) He thought the media was just trying to dig up dirt when questions were asked about McNabb's desire for more "weapons" on offense. (In a later column, he blasted Comcast SportsNet Chicago's Pat Boyle for asking the "same boring questions" of McNabb. Please.)

But the worst part was when he tried to imply that the Eagles' three-headed monster at cornerback — complete with Lito Sheppard's contract situation — was totally made up.

"A picture is being painted out there that isn't true," Spadaro wrote. "Stories that quote "sources' and "league talk' are bogus, irresponsible and unprofessional. Journalism is a shell of what it once was, with zero accountability and, at times, a lack of credibility."

Wait a minute. A guy on the Eagles' payroll — who later in the column said that linebacker Joe Mays "looks great in a uniform" and who declared a "man-crush on Takeo Spikes" during training camp last summer — is going to lecture the media on credibility?

Credibility is not shoving the company line down people's throats constantly, even when you know it's complete horse hockey.


Credibility is not bashing everyone who dares challenge the drivel of a franchise that is going on 48 years without a world championship.

Credibility comes from people who don't wear the team's merchandise while they are reporting.

If we want to examine credibility, take a look at this paragraph from Spadaro's column the day after the Eagles beat the Falcons in the 2004 NFC Championship game.

"At one point in the conversation, I admit — and I try to think about my words before I speak them — that when the Eagles beat New England, the thrill for me will be greater than the feeling I had for my wedding and the birth of my children."

This line really needs no additional comment.

What Spadaro, Reid and the Eagles hierarchy don't seem to understand is that the media is not supposed to be cheerleaders for the team. Our job is to ask questions of the franchise that the fans want answered. Those fans have made this franchise very profitable. They have been rewarded with disappointment and failure on a yearly basis for most of their lifetimes.

Don't give me that just because you write for a team's Web site requires you to be a complete and visible homer for the franchise, either. While understanding there is a fine line, there's also a proper balance to be struck as well. Ken Mandel's work on Phillies.com hardly goes over the top like Spadaro's. Mandel asks responsible questions and does not feel the need to sugarcoat if things are going poorly.

When things go poorly, Spadaro turns around the mirror and tries to blame people who had nothing to do with it. If this town were really as negative as Spadaro portrays it to be, the head coach would have been run out of it for what happened in his personal life last year.

There are a lot of ticked-off sports reporters in this city who feel the same way I do. This was a low blow that threw down the gauntlet between the franchise and some circles of the city's press corps.

What Spadaro and the Eagles don't seem to understand is that this is a fight they can't win. Kind of like all of the Super Bowls contested over the past 42 years.


http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/243-05162008-1534954.html (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/243-05162008-1534954.html)

Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: smeags on May 19, 2008, 01:54:37 PM
nevermind/delete. found the link to this in the off-season thread.  :-[
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: hunt on May 19, 2008, 01:58:44 PM
ass
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Rome on May 19, 2008, 02:33:17 PM
BURN HIM!
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Zanshin on May 19, 2008, 02:35:55 PM
Anyone here like to grill?
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: phattymatty on May 19, 2008, 02:57:26 PM
only salmon.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: SunMo on May 19, 2008, 02:58:21 PM
just heard an advertisement for angelo's show tomorrow and both of these guys will be on to talk about what Cooney wrote


OMG!  what will happen!?
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2008, 03:02:08 PM
hopefully cooney eats spadaro
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 19, 2008, 03:08:24 PM
Does Spadaro ever actually show up at WIP?  I'm assuming this "showdown" will happen over the phone.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: rjs246 on May 19, 2008, 03:11:41 PM
My god I waste a lot of time on this site.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2008, 03:12:48 PM
yes spadaro does show up in person on occasion...he also was involved in wip's great debate where he completely embarrassed himself
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: smeags on May 19, 2008, 03:14:53 PM
Quote from: hunt on May 19, 2008, 01:58:44 PM
ass

i love irony.  ;)
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Rome on May 19, 2008, 03:20:00 PM
"Embarrassed himself" is a relative term.  For instance, I'd be embarrassed to actually know what a WIP great debate is much less having actually listened to it on the radio.  And then there's the near "commit suicide" factor of having participated in it with buffoons like Al Morganti & Angelo Cataldi. 

It's one thing to occasionally listen to those farging clueless Romes but to participate in their idiocy personally?  Oh, dear God no.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 19, 2008, 03:21:53 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 19, 2008, 03:11:41 PM
My god I waste a lot of time on this site.

But you only have like 7000 posts.  Isn't that supposed to indicate that you're only a casual reader?
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: rjs246 on May 19, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
Stop stalking me weirdo.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2008, 03:26:32 PM
neither morganti nor caltaldi was there...eskin was on spads side....the other side had the likes of ike reese and hugh douglas
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Rome on May 19, 2008, 03:32:54 PM
Ike Reese & Hugh Douglas?

Did your ears bleed out after listening to it?
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: ice grillin you on May 19, 2008, 03:34:29 PM
no it was pretty good actually


i really wanted to go to it but couldnt make it up to philly that weekend
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: rjs246 on May 19, 2008, 03:37:26 PM
So two clowns who make a living defending the eagles despite having no knowledge of anything versus two former players who actually know something about what goes on the team? Gee I wonder who won that discussion...
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Munson on May 19, 2008, 04:00:43 PM
Quote from: Rome on May 19, 2008, 02:33:17 PM
BURN HIM!

How do you know she's a witch?
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 19, 2008, 04:03:35 PM
You are forbidden from enjoying Monty Python.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Munson on May 19, 2008, 04:05:37 PM
Did you dress her up like this?

NO! No, no...no....................Yes...yes, yeah, maybe a little.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 19, 2008, 04:09:43 PM
Clearly, you've seen only "Holy Grail" and likely only part of it.  A much more apropos tie-in to this thread would be found in the restaurant scene in "Meaning of Life."
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Munson on May 19, 2008, 04:13:42 PM
I've watched all of The Holy Grail many times, it never gets old.
And I have no problem admitting I never took the time to look into their other stuff. Besides maybe Spam.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 19, 2008, 04:54:25 PM
So, what's worse...

A ridiculously obese Bucks County sports writer, or

A guitar-strumming poser from Delaware

??
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Munson on May 19, 2008, 04:57:18 PM
haha did you really just try to insult me using the word "poser"?

The shtein talking has really gone down hill on here...
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 19, 2008, 05:07:22 PM
You're right.  I should have spelled it p-o-s-e-u-r.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Munson on May 19, 2008, 05:09:42 PM
 :-D


The off season really needs to end now.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: MadMarchHare on May 19, 2008, 06:37:37 PM
Why, do you jackasses get any funnier in the fall?  Christ I hope so.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Munson on May 19, 2008, 06:55:31 PM
Not really, but there's at least a little bit more to talk about.

The talk centers more calling each other idiots for our thoughts and opinions on the games/players.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: QB Eagles on May 19, 2008, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 19, 2008, 06:55:31 PM
The talk centers more calling each other idiots for our thoughts and opinions on the games/players.

Also, in the fall we usually speak English.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Munson on May 19, 2008, 09:31:21 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on May 19, 2008, 07:24:27 PM
Quote from: Munson on May 19, 2008, 06:55:31 PM
The talk centers more calling each other idiots for our thoughts and opinions on the games/players.

Also, in the fall we usually speak English.
Exactcisely.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: phillywin2k5 on May 21, 2008, 09:05:44 AM
anyone else catch Spewdaro on the live web feed with Merrill. Man how disgusting of a PR guy is Spew??? Not only that he was talking down to Merrill like he hasnt been around the Igglz for 30 years. I used to feel bad for the guy but since the draft, HE SHOULD BURN!
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: Rome on May 21, 2008, 09:48:22 AM
Please.

Make.

It.

Stop.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 21, 2008, 12:06:28 PM
Everything happens in threes.  Two veterans of the EMB have passed away in the last few days.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: General_Failure on May 21, 2008, 01:34:38 PM
Buy a bullet and rent a gun, FF.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 21, 2008, 02:44:40 PM
Why, do you want to start a similar trend on :CF?  You might be next, reds.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: General_Failure on May 21, 2008, 03:30:40 PM
Everyone knows the trend is over once you start doing it.
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: rjs246 on May 21, 2008, 03:37:32 PM
Ha!
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: mussa on May 21, 2008, 03:47:38 PM
 :-D
Title: Re: Kevin Cooney article on Spads
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 21, 2008, 04:00:26 PM
My nuts are full, but I have a few back hairs for all of you.