DE, McNeese State
McWhere State?
i would have rather seen them get a safety, corner, or tackle first...
QuotePlayed DE at McNeese. Dominant player on the I-AA level, despite only going in the 220 range. Has some quickness. Runs okay. Plays a bit out of control. Physical player, even if undersized. Works to get off blocks. Effort guy. Good game vs USF in 2006. Had one series where he just dominated. Played LB at the Hula Bowl. Knows he has to move to linebacker in order to make it in the NFL.
farging christ...another goddamn I-AA DE moving to linebacker
Gocong II
wait a minute...this guy plays DE at 220 pounds?
farg man, that's only ten pounds heavier than me.
NFL.com has him listed as an OLB.
Quote from: SunMo on April 27, 2008, 10:52:53 AM
farging christ...another goddamn I-AA DE moving to linebacker
Gocong II
yep.
6'2, 228 lbs.
Analysis
Positives: Intriguing athlete who has dominated his level of competition. ... Good burst off the snap and shows the balance to sink his shoulders and drive around the offensive tackle. ... High-effort player who pursues with passion. ... Reads the action quickly and flashes the change of direction to flatten out and beat backs to the edge. ... Flashes strong use of hands to disengage from blocks.
Negatives: Classic 'tweener who lacks the size to remain at defensive end, but has no experience and only flashes the athleticism necessary to transition to outside linebacker. ... Lacks the strength to hold up to effective blocking - even at this level. ... Not viewed as an intriguing enough prospect to earn high-level all-star game consideration
Quote from: SunMo on April 27, 2008, 10:52:53 AM
farging christ...another goddamn I-AA DE moving to linebacker
Gocong II
My first thought as well.
I cannot believe that he needed to be taken here. Probably would have been around in Round 4-5.
Well, that sucked.
I'm 6'1" 210
and I farg like a champ
Quote from: Diomedes on April 27, 2008, 10:58:18 AM
I'm 6'1" 210
and I farg like a champ
Reid has you slated for the #117 pick.
Quote from: Diomedes on April 27, 2008, 10:58:18 AM
I'm 6'1" 210
and I farg like a champ
Yeah well, he's got 10 lbs on you and you can't steal money like he's about to for the next 5 years.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 27, 2008, 10:59:27 AMReid has you slated for the #117 pick.
yeah, we talked
I'm gonna get in there and compete, do some good work for the team
also, I'm going to make the transition from farging champ to free safety
synonymous: Clemons, GoCong, Smith
Okay, I guess. Not exciting yet not bad.
i won't pretend that i ever heard of this guy before but this pick doesn't make sense to me. a de who can actually play de would've been nice...or a safety.
foxsports.com analysis:
QuoteCurious pick, here. Smith wasn't this high on many boards. A DE in college, he'll likely move to OLB. With Darrell Robertson, Cliff Avril, and Brian Johnston still on the board, I don't love this one.
i knew Andy the Genius had to come out and play sometime today
At least he's not white or Asian. C'mon, folks. Think positive!
http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/bryan-smith?id=2710
QuoteSmall school defensive end prospect who will have to be moved to outside linebacker in the NFL, but has flashed the athleticism and certainly the big-play ability to warrant this projection. The most dominant edge rusher in the Football Championship Subdivision (formerly D-IAA) over the past two seasons, Smith is a two-time All-American and Southland Conference Defensive Player of the Year. As one would expect of a player his size, Smith possesses great burst off the snap and the straight-line speed to chase down ballcarriers. He has intriguing change of direction and flashes explosiveness in his hands, prompting some to view him as a potential diamond in the rough.
QuotePositives: Intriguing athlete who has dominated his level of competition. ... Good burst off the snap and shows the balance to sink his shoulders and drive around the offensive tackle. ... High-effort player who pursues with passion. ... Reads the action quickly and flashes the change of direction to flatten out and beat backs to the edge. ... Flashes strong use of hands to disengage from blocks.
Negatives: Classic 'tweener who lacks the size to remain at defensive end, but has no experience and only flashes the athleticism necessary to transition to outside linebacker. ... Lacks the strength to hold up to effective blocking - even at this level. ... Not viewed as an intriguing enough prospect to earn high-level all-star game consideration.
QuoteDid you have a favorite pro team growing up? Favorite player?
"I did not have a favorite player, but I would have to say my favorite team was the Dallas Cowboys."
there's no way he's going to get bigger or stronger in the nfl.
huge bust pick.
HUGE!
QuoteWhat was the last good movie you saw?
"The Eye, with Jessica Alba."
Get an "Ask Bryan Smith" section!
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2008, 11:16:42 AM
there's no way he's going to get bigger or stronger in the nfl.
huge bust pick.
HUGE!
hey, he might reach his potential and become the next chris gocong...but dook won't even see the field this season & the 3rd round is way to early for a guy like that, imo.
yeah, he's going to gain 30 pounds of muscle and grow 4 inches...
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 27, 2008, 11:16:27 AM
QuoteDid you have a favorite pro team growing up? Favorite player?
"I did not have a favorite player, but I would have to say my favorite team was the Dallas Cowboys."
please tell me this quote was reported before the Philadelphia Eagles drafted him?
Quote from: SunMo on April 27, 2008, 11:19:33 AM
yeah, he's going to gain 30 pounds of muscle and grow 4 inches...
He might when he sees Joselio Hanson in the locker room.
again, cole did.
Quote from: hunt on April 27, 2008, 11:19:26 AM
but dook won't even see the field this season
Incorrect. Mayock said the kid is a beast on teams and will be a core guy there right away.
Overall, the Eagles really have gotten a lot better (on paper) on special teams. Thank Christ. They sucked ass last year. I want to punch my TV when I see that they were 6th in the NFL on offense and 10th on defense last year. What a waste.
i don't want farging core special teamers in the 3rd farging round
jesus christ...you can still get potential starters in the 3rd round and we're talking about core special teamers?
sun mo beat me to it.
he's a really fast typer.
surely 1st team all-american 2 yrs in a row in the Great West Football Conference means something...surely
The Andy Reid 3rd rd special just became the not-so-special. Not one safety available in the 3rd to groom?
who is going to start this year from the third round?
look, i wanted dajuan morgan too but obviously the eagles didn't see what they wanted in him so they went another direction. i just don't see the point of freaking out over a third round pick like you are, sunnysun.
i'm not freaking out...i'm just pissed because they took another I-AA DE that can only survive if he learns to play OLB, and they took him in the 3rd round when by all accounts you could probably get him in the 4th or 5th.
and i didn't say anybody from the 3rd round would start this year, but in the 3rd you are still drafting potential future starters. this guy will never be that.
zbikowski went to the ravens. i wanted him too.
Everyone loves to get all excited about everything on draft day, but come on. If the special teams had contributed anything at all last year the Eagles would have likely made the playoffs. The offseason moves and this pick show the team is at least acknowledging one of their weakest points and addressing it aggressively. In the mean time they got a productive college player who may be able to contribute on defense.
We would all love it if they packaged their picks up and grabbed Jesus H. Christ, WR Holy Name, but they didn't so try to farging deal with it.
Nah, Christ has some serious off-the-field issues.
yeah, who cares if they took him 2 rounds before anybody else would've....it's all good
It's almost as though no one has ever witnessed an Andy Reid draft. This is not only par for the course but would have been a shock if it hadn't happened. Would a safety had made more sense to all of us in the peanut gallery? Yes. Sadly we don't get to draft for the Eagles so I'm just going to be happy that they have made an effort to address the worst special teams group that I've ever seen and move right along with my life.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 27, 2008, 11:29:50 AM
Everyone loves to get all excited about everything on draft day, but come on. If the special teams had contributed anything at all last year the Eagles would have likely made the playoffs. The offseason moves and this pick show the team is at least acknowledging one of their weakest points and addressing it aggressively. In the mean time they got a productive college player who may be able to contribute on defense.
We would all love it if they packaged their picks up and grabbed Jesus H. Christ, WR Holy Name, but they didn't so try to farging deal with it.
the world just seems to make much more sense when your the voice of reason. So I thank you.
Quote from: QB Eagles on April 27, 2008, 11:32:08 AM
Nah, Christ has some serious off-the-field issues.
he plays like he has holes in his hands or something.
seriously, who runs a 40 with half a shed on their back? hah.
curious pick, par for the course andy. but if you think like a retard, it's now a second day pick, which makes him less important.
I love watching people get worked up about projects, should have gone 2 rounds later and never seeing the field.
Look, if he pans out as an OLB then what? Then its good and his draft position is justified. Who knows if they could have gotten him 2 rounds later?
Let's just hope he works out.
Yesterday went fine, so fans are hungry to get pissy pissed about something. It's not like the Eagles are crazy deep at LB. Whatever.
this place is like a monty python sketch at times.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 27, 2008, 11:49:42 AM
Yesterday went fine, so fans are hungry to get pissy pissed about something. It's not like the Eagles are crazy deep at LB. Whatever.
Pagoooooo Togaaaaaaafu
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2008, 11:51:02 AM
this place is like a monty python sketch at times.
That's an insult to good comedy.
i fart in your general direction, sir!
I don't like it. What good are extra picks if you are going to waste them on a player no one ever heard of and would have probably been there in round 5. I would have rather had NC State safety DaJuan Morgan. Ravens snatched him up.
But, we do need linebackers and if he works out, I'll eat those words. I just don't see why it had to happen in round three.
stop freaking out, shorebird. what if this guy becomes a pro bowl OLB, huh? what then?
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2008, 11:55:13 AM
i fart in your general direction, sir!
I could go over the entire coconut-horse scene but it's too long. Hilarious.
Shorebird the Cheefs took Morgan. Baltimore took Zbikowski.
Quote from: shorebird on April 27, 2008, 12:05:51 PM
I don't like it. What good are extra picks if you are going to waste them on a player no one ever heard of and would have probably been there in round 5. I would have rather had NC State safety DaJuan Morgan. Ravens snatched him up.
But, we do need linebackers and if he works out, I'll eat those words. I just don't see why it had to happen in round three.
All due respect, shorebird, but what does it matter if you, I or any other message board poster has heard of a guy or not?
And how is this a wasted pick already? I wanted Morgan too.
Quote from: hunt on April 27, 2008, 12:07:20 PM
stop freaking out, shorebird. what if this guy becomes a pro bowl OLB, huh? what then?
ha
Quote from: hunt on April 27, 2008, 12:07:20 PM
stop freaking out, shorebird. what if this guy becomes a pro bowl OLB, huh? what then?
Then, it will be the first time Reid has drafted a pro bowl LB, period, outside, inside, or backside.
It won't be a wasted pick if he ends up being a player. But you have to admit, a player like that should have been there in a later round.
...but what the farg do I know?
QuoteOn whether he knows anything about the Eagles defense:
"I don't know anything specific, but I know they want me at defensive end and I think that would be a good spot for me."
He only has to gain like 25 pounds to be a super-light DE.
Anyone else think that, with the guys they've drafted so far, they might seriously be considering a move to more 3-4 like the Patriots game?
it def crossed my mind
Perhaps a modified 3-4 where they play 2 DT's and one DE versus the usualy 2 DE's and 1 NT. They have two very good DT's and drafted a guy to rotate with them.
Gocong/Smith/Clemons can all rush the QB from the edge so it has to be a possibilty.
fastballs, baby....fastballs!
Bryan Smith is a guy you want pass rushing, which really only makes sense for a 3-4 team. But if they are going to put him at DE instead of OLB, then the Eagles either have to roid him up incredibly or Reid is trying to dubiously reinvent the DE position with a little guy. It's a confusing pick and it will be interesting to see what Reid and JJ have up their sleeve with all these little speedy DE/LB guys.
I never even heard of the guy or saw him play a down, so I can't complain.
Everything I know about him is based off of the opinions of people from websites. Maybe the Eagles know something we don't or maybe he is another reach/bust like McCoy. We'll see.
I did want another DE though, so if he can get to the QB good.
If he stays at DE I don't really care what weight he plays at. He's what, 235 now? He sure as hell isn't going to get a lot of snaps so he should be whatever weight he's comfortable at, especially considering he'll be in just to rush the passer.
Someone tell me what Freeney and Mathis playing weights are.
Is he going to be a point of attack holding DE like Abiamiri? No. He's going to create pressure.
What is Justin Tuck's weight? He plays DT at times for chrissakes.
Justin Tuck is 274lbs...
and lines up inside.
274
i get it...you love this pick
freeney is listed at 268...mathis is 245.
smith is 228.
Justin Tuck was 240 when he came out of ND.
Smith is apparently at 246 now.
And Elvis Dumervil is another guy who didn't meet the oh so crucial measurables laid out there by the experts. But he went to Denver and posted 21 sacks the last two years, 8.5 his rookie year and 12.5 last year.
Thank ya very much.
Plus, Smith's never stomped on anyone or been stomped on, that we know of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvLsQpEQG3U
If you can somehow sit through that quality for 3 minutes you can actually see him play.
Killa
Clemons
Abiamiri
Smith
Bunkley
Patterson
Laws
Reagor
Ramsey
Has Darren Howard been cut yet?
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 27, 2008, 07:29:48 PM
Killa
Clemons
Abiamiri
Smith
Bunkley
Patterson
Laws
Reagor
Ramsey
Has Darren Howard been cut yet?
Trade him for Roy Williams!
you forgot Juqua
Quote from: SunMo on April 27, 2008, 07:31:26 PM
you forgot Juqua
So I did. Fastballs!
Seriously, unless they keep Howard, all their DE's except Abiamiri are kind of small.
Any chance they keep 10 defensive linemen? 11?
I also forgot Studebaker!
Well, from what could be seen on that video, money plays like a hyena on crack: real fast and viscious when he gets to his target. I especially liked the one where he crossed the tackle's face and took that inside move to the Qb.
aside from the shtein quality, he definitely has speed, and just outworks people. He kind of reminds me of Killa. That said, looks to be a reach at the point he was drafted
Apparently they stole him from the taterskins.
Cerrato said that had the Eagles not taken him, they would have.
This could be good, or a sign that he sucks because they can't evaluate talent there.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 27, 2008, 07:29:48 PM
Killa
Clemons
Abiamiri
Smith
Bunkley
Patterson
Laws
Reagor
Ramsey
Has Darren Howard been cut yet?
My guess is they plan on keeping Howard since he can play inside and cutting Reagor or Ramsey.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2008, 01:10:30 AM
Apparently they stole him from the taterskins.
Cerrato said that had the Eagles not taken him, they would have.
This could be good, or a sign that he sucks because they can't evaluate talent there either.
check out his combine video on the right side of the page (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/bryan-smith?id=2710)
He's got some really quick feet.
Quote from: FastFreddie on April 28, 2008, 08:24:28 AM
check out his combine video on the right side of the page (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/bryan-smith?id=2710)
He's got some really quick feet.
I know it's just the combine, but he does look like a quick, athletic kid. Showed that he can change direction on a dime. Hopefully, the Eagles can throw some weight on him without sacrificing too much of his speed.
Looks fast as shtein on that youtube video as well. Hopefully, he can translate it.
Quote"He has great speed," Reid said. "He has a real knack for rushing the passer. He fits in well for what we do. We like to throw those fastballs at them."
ha
I think that's one of many things that Reid says repeatedly, because he knows how much it annoys fans.
BTW, it turns out he was right about Jevon Kearse being the "Nolan Ryan" in that analogy, right? After all, Nolan Ryan's like 60 years old and requires pain meds to do even the most basic of physical activity.
whos albert puljos hitting the ball 450 feet in that scenario
flozell adams?
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 28, 2008, 12:31:54 PM
whos albert puljos hitting the ball 450 feet in that scenario
flozell adams?
Brad Lidge according to Wing
Here's a really bad youtube video of Smith. I think they show every play twice and the music, distance of most of the shots, and poor quality make it barely watchable. He's #93...I think.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on April 28, 2008, 01:18:57 PM
Here's a really bad youtube video of Smith. I think they show every play twice and the music, distance of most of the shots, and poor quality make it barely watchable. He's #93...I think.
That is a really bad video. Completely unwatchable.
...literally... because you didn't give us a link, cracker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvLsQpEQG3U
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2008, 01:10:30 AM
Apparently they stole him from the taterskins.
Cerrato said that had the Eagles not taken him, they would have.
This could be good, or a sign that he sucks because they can't evaluate talent there.
Yeah, well remember they stole Gocong from the Jets too.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on April 28, 2008, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on April 28, 2008, 01:10:30 AM
Apparently they stole him from the taterskins.
Cerrato said that had the Eagles not taken him, they would have.
This could be good, or a sign that he sucks because they can't evaluate talent there.
Yeah, well remember they stole Gocong from the Jets too.
And the pats
this guy is way smaller than desean jackson
signed a 4-yr deal today
2 unsigned left
I can't wait until Trevor Laws signs.
I can't wait til Laws makes his first tackle for a loss so I can shout, "He fought the Laws... and the Laws WON!!!"
I hope I'm within punching distance of you when that happens.
That's a hate crime!
Quote from: rjs246 on July 01, 2008, 12:13:19 PM
I hope I'm within punching distance of you when that happens.
You'd only punch me because you didn't shout it first. Hater.
You know me so well.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 01, 2008, 12:14:11 PM
(http://www.concretefield.info/forum/Themes/default/images/post/wireless.gif)
Die.
I work with his cousin.
speedballs
Per Spads...
He's up to 248lbs
What a beefcake.
Says he's up to 250 (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20090513_Eagles_-_After_a_year_off__Smith_s_set_to_rush_in.html) and hasn't lost any of his speed.
(http://www.onasia.com/system/sro00129-t.jpeg)
Huh. So this guy is still on the team?
I don't know who he is nor care to look back
It really baffles me that you have the capacity to operate a computer.
Quote from: Rome on April 27, 2008, 11:16:42 AM
there's no way he's going to get bigger or stronger in the nfl.
huge bust pick.
HUGE!
Rome wins.
Lesson (hopefully) learned: just say no to McNeese State.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 25, 2008, 06:34:42 PM
Per Spads...
He's up to 248lbs
you have to read the whole thread to really appreciate it but this post is absolute gold
Um, why?
cause you spent the first six pages trying to make the pick sound good in any way possible against all the haters....then everything died down and was over...
until a couple months later where you randomly posted that spadaro said the guy gained a few pounds...as if that meaningless piece of information somehow validated the pick and proved the haters all wrong....
the defense of your team is unwavering and is something to behold...but sometimes its really funny
We need to spell this out for you? It starts with, "per," which is a stupid, corporate-speak way to talk type or think at all. Then the stupidity is compounded by crediting the FO mouthpiece Dave Spadaro using a bad nick name.
Okay, so that's the first two words.
Then you tell us that this fastaball DE is "up to" 248 whole pounds! Wow. Only 30 more to go before he's got a chance to get past an averge NFL offensive lineman.