Sal was apparently saying on ESPN this morning that the Birds and Jets will go after Samuel.
Interesting if true.
I was all for bringing in a solid nickel guy, but who does Samuel replace? The oft-injured Sheppard? Or does he replace Sheldon and then we'll get to hear one of 'em demand a trade. Or does Sheldon move to safety like many have said over the last couple of years?
I'm all for adding Samuel but his contract demands are going to be large. Lito can't stay healthy, they don't have a good nickel corner, and Sheldon can play safety, so there are a lot of options. I'd rather the money go towards a WR or DE.
A few days ago I was watching NFL Live and I could have sworn the Pats told Samuel they would sign him to a long term deal....
Sal Pal's a moron.
If you're getting this from the EMB topic, it said Sal Pal "thinks" they'll go after them.
Why would the Jets go after him? They have Revis, Dyson, Miller, and Barrett. Miller has supposedly been a disappointment at corner but they're (probably) not going to get rid of him because he's one of the best returners in the league. I don't see them spending that much money on a corner when they have so many other needs.
if they got the money to make the move do it. as long as they got the dough left for a big time receiver
yeah i heard this too during sportscenter this morning.
mangini supposedly has a very close relationship with samuels and would love to add him opposite revis. and then they will pick up mcfadden with the #6 pick if he falls to them. all speculation though.
as for the eagles sal pal just said the eagles would be interested. probably means nothing since im 100% sure they would not pay him anything close to what he wants and that would something more than san fran paid clements.
i would love samuels but how logical is it to move sheldon to safety? and forget about adding any type of WR outside of a draft pick if the eagles sign samuels.
if they are going to spend the big bucks i would hope they try to sign suggs or allen and then target a quality 3rd corner in the draft.
agreed sal pal is a retard.
the one position we can draft pretty damn well at, we go after in fa to allow us to select another below avg. player. i'd rather concentrate our efforts in fa at a position we suck ass at drafting than the other way around. plus he'll command waaay more than nate's contract. this is supposed to be a nice class for cb's and s's too.
Dumb.
I can't see them spending that much money on a CB when they have far other pressing needs. CB is a need, but it isn't a max contract type of need. They need a nice nickel corner, they don't need Samuel.
Then again, maybe the Eagles want to add defensive playmakers and figure no big-time DEs will hit the market
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong. If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.
You agreed with me and used the quote function correctly?
Who hacked IGY's account?
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong. If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.
pretty much my thoughts, that's not how I would choose to spend the money, but I'm not going to complain about an obvious upgrade to this team.
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong. If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.
If they were to go get Samuel, ^^this^^ is exactly what they should do. Of course, I think there are other areas that need to be addressed first before going after Samuel but I wouldn't be disappointed in the signing.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 10, 2008, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong. If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.
If they were to go get Samuel, ^^this^^ is exactly what they should do. Of course, I think there are other areas that need to be addressed first before going after Samuel but I wouldn't be disappointed in the signing.
Why didn't you just say "What Troy said ^^" and save the finger fatigue?
Quote from: Father Demon on February 11, 2008, 12:50:14 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 10, 2008, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong. If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.
If they were to go get Samuel, ^^this^^ is exactly what they should do. Of course, I think there are other areas that need to be addressed first before going after Samuel but I wouldn't be disappointed in the signing.
Why didn't you just say "What Troy said ^^" and save the finger fatigue?
Or he could have used the timely, 'This'.
I would love to see Samuel on the Eagles but the problem with the scenario described above is that Dawk is not at this point in his career going to play SS. He has stated he is uncomfortable making the calls and I just can't see taking him out of his area of expertise if you will in order to accomodate Samuel and a move to safety by Sheldon.
I was a bit disappointed by NE's secondary against the Giants in that superbowl. I don't know how enthused I would be at this point if the Eagles were to actually pursue him. It is obvious though that the Eagles must get an answer for Buress whether it comes in the form of scheme of personel an answer has to be found. He is their new Tiki.
Quote from: Father Demon on February 11, 2008, 12:50:14 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 10, 2008, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on February 09, 2008, 11:25:05 PM
Doubt it will happen, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Just to have some fun with it, I imagine there'd be some interesting packages that would put Samuel opposite Lito, put Sheldon free and let Dawkins play strong. If the front seven could get any kind of pressure, that would be a pretty sweet backfield.
If they were to go get Samuel, ^^this^^ is exactly what they should do. Of course, I think there are other areas that need to be addressed first before going after Samuel but I wouldn't be disappointed in the signing.
Why didn't you just say "What Troy said ^^" and save the finger fatigue?
I'm just taking a stab in the dark here...... but maybe because Troy didn't say it.
Quote from: Displaced on February 11, 2008, 06:39:19 AM
I would love to see Samuel on the Eagles but the problem with the scenario described above is that Dawk is not at this point in his career going to play SS. He has stated he is uncomfortable making the calls and I just can't see taking him out of his area of expertise if you will in order to accomodate Samuel and a move to safety by Sheldon.
It really wouldn't be that big of a deal. He plays strong in a number of packages as it is.
i played with my package this morning
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 11, 2008, 09:11:11 AM
i played with my package this morning
Ok ladies and gentelman, its' been great. Time to lock the entire board down for good.
dont like my schtick?
If we all start listening to hip hop and talking all gangsta-like, will you leave too?
only if its not funny...humor and fresh schticks is what life is all about
That's what I'm talking about homie. Gotsta keep it real, yo.
word to gawd
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QuoteCornering the market? Eagles may go after Samuel
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
INDIANAPOLIS - The Eagles weren't taking requests, but Donovan McNabb blogged one anyway.
Shortly after the team completed its 8-8 season that was good for last place in the ultra-competitive NFC East, the Eagles' franchise quarterback used his personal blog to plead for more "playmakers in all three phases of the game."
Running back Brian Westbrook, offensive tackle Jon Runyan, and veteran safety Brian Dawkins have since supported the idea.
The Eagles will get their first real chance to satisfy those wishes when the free-agent bidding begins Friday at 12:01 a.m. Coach Andy Reid and the rest of the Eagles' decision-makers also are strongly in favor of upgrading the talent level through free agency.
The problem is that it's much easier said than done.
"There are certain positions where you only have one good guy that hasn't been tagged," Eagles president Joe Banner said, referring to the franchise tag that teams use to make it nearly impossible to sign one of their players.
"I think you're going to see a very aggressive rush those first few days. I think the first day or two are going to be crazy," Banner said as the team continued to map out its free-agent plan here at the NFL Scouting Combine.
That first day or two also will be cutthroat, because the days when only a handful of teams could afford to pursue the most prized free agents are in the past. With the salary cap expanding to $116 million this season, just about every team in the league can afford to get into a bidding war.
The most valuable free agent that has been linked to the Eagles in recent weeks is Asante Samuel, but it's not a slam dunk that the team will make a serious bid for the New England Patriots' Pro Bowl cornerback.
According to a league source, the Eagles' sights had been set on Seattle cornerback Marcus Trufant before the Seahawks placed the franchise tag on him Thursday. Oakland's Nnamdi Asomugha also was tagged, leaving Samuel as the only truly elite cornerback on the open market.
If the Eagles decide to seriously bid for Samuel's services, they will have to pay a heavy price because he is expected to sign for more money than any other defensive player in NFL history.
Is Samuel worth that much or do the Eagles believe they can succeed with veterans Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown returning? It's a complicated question.
Sheppard has missed 14 games the last three seasons because of injuries, and there's some thought he might be less than thrilled with his contract, which has four years remaining.
A league source indicated that Brown also feels underappreciated after defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said last season that he had to compete with Will James to keep his starting job.
Another issue is that the Eagles' cornerback tandem combined for just five interceptions last season. Twenty-two players had that many by themselves.
Given Brian Dawkins' advanced age and injury problems last season, the Eagles may have been in the market for help at safety, but the free-agent market is even thinner at that position than it is at cornerback. Dallas' Ken Hamlin was the best available safety, but the Cowboys used their franchise tag on him late last week. The best available player at the position now is the New York Giants' Gibril Wilson, who had a career-high four interceptions last season.
Reid made the point that quarterback pressure from the defensive line and linebackers helps any secondary, so it's possible the Eagles could turn their attention in that direction.
Again, the problem is that the premier pass rushers - Kansas City's Jared Allen and Baltimore's Terrell Suggs - never made it to the open market. The best of the rest is Cincinnati's Justin Smith, and it wouldn't be shocking if the Eagles made a run at him. Smith had only two sacks last season but averaged almost seven per season in his first six years.
Jacksonville's Bobby McCray is another possibility at defensive end. His sack total dropped from 10 in 2006 to three in 2007, but he's only 26. Tennessee's Antwan Odom and Travis LaBoy also are interesting names. Odom had a career-high eight sacks last season, and LaBoy had a career-high six sacks and four forced fumbles.
The Eagles have a history of acquiring defensive ends from the Titans, with Juqua Thomas and the soon-to-be-released Jevon Kearse having joined the team from Tennessee.
When McNabb made his plea for help last month, it's safe to assume he was hoping the Eagles would add playmakers to the wide-receiver corps. That, of course, is an annual staple on the wish list of Eagles fans.
It's not out of the question that the Eagles will pursue a wide receiver in free agency, but it doesn't seem likely that they will go after one of the elite ones. New England's Randy Moss tops the list of free agents, but few people believe he will sign with any team other than the Patriots.
That doesn't mean there aren't interesting options at receiver. The Patriots have made it known they will not pick up the option of former Eagle Donté Stallworth, which means he will be on the free-agent market for the second consecutive season. It seems unlikely, however, that he would return to Philadelphia for a couple of reasons.
Stallworth said during the Super Bowl that he loved playing in Philadelphian, but he felt as if the Eagles had their opportunity to sign him to a long-term deal last off-season. The Eagles also feel better about the combination of Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown than their fan base does.
The one free agent who could fit perfectly with the Eagles is Houston's Andre' Davis, who is both a speed receiver and a quality kick returner. In addition to catching 33 passes for 583 yards and three touchdowns last season, Davis returned three kickoffs for touchdowns and averaged 30.3 yards per return. The Eagles obviously need to improve in the return game.
It's unlikely that the Eagles will try to add a running back, tight end (the team tagged L.J. Smith) or offensive lineman. Pittsburgh guard Alan Faneca is considered the best offensive lineman, but he is 31, and the Eagles already have two starting tackles older than 30.
By this time next week, we'll know the Eagles' free-agent plan and we might even know whether it was a successful one.
"My own opinion is, there's going to be a very, very short market this year," Banner said. "It's not to say there aren't any opportunities out there, but I think you're going to see the market accelerated . . . The second tier of free agency, where maybe that kicked in two weeks into free agency in the past, maybe you're going to see it kicking in three to five days into free agency."
Let the spending begin.
A few thoughts;
1. Nice title of the article only to see Brookover say it's not a slam dunk they would go after him. Mis-lead much. Inky?
2. Samuel will be expensive for sure. His deal will likely exceed the one signed by Nate Clements in SF because that's the market setter there and Samuel is better than Clements. But we do know the Eagles will spend big if they want to and make history doing it (Kearse in 04).
3. It's a shame Trufant was tagged. I thought that was they guy they would target and it says thats who they wanted.
4. Awwwww, poor Sheldon. Are your feelings hurt because Jim Johnson said you had to compete for your job? Hush up and play ball, dude. I hate how emotional some of these guys are. Don't like whats said? Play better and shut the people up yourself.
5. I want Stallworth back.
6. Andre Davis would be a great addition.
Andre Davis would automatically make our return game 100% better.
Free agent Asante Samuel is rumored to be in search of a ten-year, $100 million contract, including $30 million up front.
Feb. 23 - 3:50 pm et.
Source: Boston Herald
Quote from: reese125 on February 24, 2008, 05:05:24 PM
Free agent Asante Samuel is rumored to never be a Philadelphia Eagle. Ever.
^^ Same thing I thought when I read that.
I can't see anyone paying that to him. So he'll probably be a taterskin.
A few thoughts on that article.
It was a complete waste of my time to read. I've never seen so much speculation and no fact crammed into one article in my life.
He stopped being factual after writing "By Bob Brookover"
i just dont understand why the eagles would pay big bucks for a cb when they have two perfectly fine cb's that are super cheap....i can see upgradng the nickel slot but other than that leave it alone and address the more pressing needs on the team...the only possible explanation would be that lito is much more upset about his contract than anyone knows and is threatening to sit out
because Lito aint happy with his contract is the only reason i can think of
Peter King:
QuoteAsante Samuel could be headed for Philadelphia. I hear the all-pro New England cornerback could get five years and $55 million from the Eagles, but I think once Philly finds out no other team out there is willing to give $10 million a year to a finesse corner who doesn't like contact -- unlike the franchised Marcus Trufant of the Seahawks and Nnamdi Asomugha of the Raiders -- the price tag could slither down a bit.
This is a dangerous, dangerous move if the Eagles do it. I've been a Samuel guy for the last couple of years, because he's a fearless competitor, but his play late last season, particularly when the Patriots couldn't generate a consistent pass-rush on Eli Manning, was poor.
He let David Tyree beat him for a touchdown in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, then let a catchable interception slip through his hands on the decisive Giant drive (though it would have been a tough catch), and didn't clobber Tyree when he was fighting for the catch heard 'round the world, though Samuel was only steps away.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 25, 2008, 10:14:06 AM
i just dont understand why the eagles would pay big bucks for a cb when they have two perfectly fine cb's that are super cheap....i can see upgradng the nickel slot but other than that leave it alone and address the more pressing needs on the team...the only possible explanation would be that lito is much more upset about his contract than anyone knows and is threatening to sit out
that's the thing, they might think it's easier to grab a true #1 corner, and bump everyone down, and if sheldon is now your nickel, his contract is cheap enough that he isn't overpriced as a nickel back. teams play so much 3 wr now that having 3 really good corners isn't a terrible thing to have.
except they can get a good nickel corner on the cheap and have three good corners....then spend 55 million on DE/S/WR/ ect...
and i could be wrong but i dont so any way they get samuel and keep lito...if they get samuel lito is bye bye
im also of the opinion that samuel is overrated and while id take him he isnt worth 10 million a year and even less so when you look at what they already have at his position...id even rather restructure lito and give him a little more to make him happy than to give 55 mil to samuel
They need a safety, a cornerback and a defensive end. Signing Samuel accomplishes two things... first, it allows Sheldon to move to safety which presumably fills that need and it allows the Eagles to go get a defensive end in the first round of the draft. Justin Smith is all that is left in terms of free agent defensive ends and the Eagles could definitely get a better one in the draft even if they sit tight at 19.
And while Samuel might be overrated, he's a free agent, and as such, will command idiotic dollars from someone. If the Eagles choose to pay it, that's fine. It's not my money they're spending plus adding him will make the defensive backfield a lot better and it's already pretty good with Lito, Sheldon & Dawkins back there.
well youre assuming that sheldon can play safety at all much less at a high level...if he can that makes dump trucking money on samuel much more attractive
as for de's did antwon odom get resigned or tagged?...cause he would be a very nice not overly expensive DE option in free agency
i think the de's in the draft this year are pretty terrible so i wouldnt not count on getting a player there
Last I heard Odom was still trying to re-sign with the Titans. You never know, though. Again, he's a nice all-around player but is he the type of guy you'd like to invest tens of millions on?
I think Samuel is a better bet and I further think the Eagles could do better in getting a DE in the draft.
i'm not sure why everyone just assumes sheldon can play safety. has he played it in the past?
He was an all-pro safety for 10 years, matty. How could you forget that?
i think it's because he's black and wears a jersey with a number that starts with a 2
Quote from: Rome on February 25, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
Last I heard Odom was still trying to re-sign with the Titans. You never know, though. Again, he's a nice all-around player but is he the type of guy you'd like to invest tens of millions on?
I think Samuel is a better bet and I further think the Eagles could do better in getting a DE in the draft.
tens of millions?...what top free agent doesnt get tens of millions...id give odom a 15-20 mil sb before id give samuel 30...odom is only 26 on the rise and would be super in a DE rotation...hes as good right now and i think will be better than umenyora...that said the titans have more money than god and i agree he is probably going to resign with them
as for the draft maybe theres someone you really like but i think the talent at DE is super weak this year...and at 19 the guaranteed money will be upwards of 10 million anyway...id rather have something more assured at DE..they MUST improve their pass rush this year
be nice to know if abiamiri can play at all
DraftDaddy.com
QuoteWe've been told Cleveland could meet the parameters of a long term deal to sign Patriots free agent cornerback Asante Samuel....They have no first rounder, so they can look at him as their first rounder and will pay up handsomely to reunite him with Romeo Crennel.
I hope the Browns dole out the big bucks. I like Samuel, but not for the money he's going to command. I don't want the Eagles paying what this guy wants. Get Wilson from NY, and then worry about WR, DE. Speaking of WR:
(from DratDaddy.com again)
QuoteLast night we posted that our main source in Indy was reporting the Detroit Lions are shopping star wide receiver Roy Williams in hopes of getting a 2nd round pick in return -- either in the upcoming draft or next years draft.
This has created a buzz on many fan sites and has caused many to ask us why Detroit would even consider trading such a young and talented wide receiver for "only" a second round pick?
Here's the response from our source, when we asked the same question: Williams demands for a contract extenstion are pretty steep, which will knock down the Lions asking price in trades. He is reportedly looking for 8 to 10 million dollars a year, with a 28 million dollar signing bonus.
Do it. NOW.
Quote from: SunMo on February 25, 2008, 11:25:11 AM
i think it's because he's black and wears a jersey with a number that starts with a 2 occasionally hits people hard and stuff
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 25, 2008, 11:31:03 AM
Quote from: Rome on February 25, 2008, 11:18:41 AM
Last I heard Odom was still trying to re-sign with the Titans. You never know, though. Again, he's a nice all-around player but is he the type of guy you'd like to invest tens of millions on?
I think Samuel is a better bet and I further think the Eagles could do better in getting a DE in the draft.
tens of millions?...what top free agent doesnt get tens of millions...id give odom a 15-20 mil sb before id give samuel 30...odom is only 26 on the rise and would be super in a DE rotation...hes as good right now and i think will be better than umenyora...that said the titans have more money than god and i agree he is probably going to resign with them
as for the draft maybe theres someone you really like but i think the talent at DE is super weak this year...and at 19 the guaranteed money will be upwards of 10 million anyway...id rather have something more assured at DE..they MUST improve their pass rush this year
be nice to know if abiamiri can play at all
I don't think Samuel is asking for a $30M signing bonus. I think he's asking for $30M guaranteed. Big difference.
I also think you're wildly overrating Odom. He had three mediocre seasons and then last year he had a decent breakout year with 8 sacks. Comparing him to Usi is a reach, IGY.
And looking at the draft, yes, there are several defensive ends I like very much. And none of them would require the sort of insane signing bonus and contract that a guy like Smith or Odom would command. There's four or five defensive ends who are locks to go in the first round. Gholston is the guy I want but the Eagles would have to trade up at least 10 spots to get him. Calais Campbell & Derrick Harvey might also be available there too.
Eh - who knows? The way the Eagles pick they might pick up another defensive tackle for all we know.
For IGY, but really its non-news.
QuoteThe free-agent buzz surrounding the Philadelphia Eagles for the last few weeks has been that they are going to pursue New England Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel. That might end up happening, but it seems more likely, and perhaps even more logical, that they are going to make a strong attempt to sign New York Giants safety Gibril Wilson, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.
It's more likely because Samuel is considered the premier defensive player on the open market, and he is going to command a top contract — probably at least $12 million per season with a $20 million signing bonus — and there's going to be a line of teams bidding for his services.
Wilson, a 26-year-old free safety, doesn't figure to get nearly as much money as Samuel and probably fits better with the Eagles in terms of need.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer
(from DratDaddy.com again)
Quote
Last night we posted that our main source in Indy was reporting the Detroit Lions are shopping star wide receiver Roy Williams in hopes of getting a 2nd round pick in return -- either in the upcoming draft or next years draft.
This has created a buzz on many fan sites and has caused many to ask us why Detroit would even consider trading such a young and talented wide receiver for "only" a second round pick?
Here's the response from our source, when we asked the same question: Williams demands for a contract extenstion are pretty steep, which will knock down the Lions asking price in trades. He is reportedly looking for 8 to 10 million dollars a year, with a 28 million dollar signing bonus.
Man, if this is the truth, somone should harpoon Andy Reid if it doesn't get done.
I can't bring myself to believe that the Lions FO is that dumb, even with all the stupid crap they've done in the past.
I am not one to care about player salary's, but a $28M signing bonus is insane for any WR.
30 for a corner is worse
QuoteSunday, May 17, 2009
Asante predicts Super Bowl victory
Eagles cornerback Asante Samuel and defensive end Trent Cole have joined the Twitter revolution in the last week and Asante, in particular, seems to be enjoying the interaction, especially for a guy who rarely talks to the media other than after games. (This is a post about athletes and Twitter and we won't even go on about Drew Rosenhaus.)
Samuel has jumped right in,with his prediction for the Eagles: "this is about to be a superbowl winning season fareal."
"Defence wins championships," declare several other posts
In other predictions, Samuel says Jeremy Maclin will be one of the top five rookies in the league.
He also talks about his training runs to stay in shape, promotes buying Eagles tickets and talks about his struggles playing the Madden video game.
"I'm losin madden at the moment, maybe its those superbowl rings weighing my hand down.......dunno."
Samuel also writes of a trip to San Francisco, his watching of the Sopranos DVD (Season 5, by the way) and his pursuit of an Italian restaurant in San Fran.
We particularly like this one: "just saw some guys playin football down from my hotel. I ran up and just intercepted a pass then ran away...they didn't find it too funny"
Can you imagine playing street football with your buddies and all of a sudden an Pro Bowl cornerback jumps in the game and zips the other way with your errant pass?
You can follow Asante here
Cole introduces his page with this: "Whats up ladies and gents, Trent Cole here, the 6foot3 DT of the PHILADELPHIA EAGLES. Cole Train conductin that Sack Express and it is right on time."
He also takes a shot at Samuel in response to a message from him: "Im finna get more picks than you haha just playin cuz"
You can follow Cole here
:-D
And they say professional athletes aren't deep thinkers.
cole is a DT?
They're finna move him there if he adds 5 pounds.
QuoteAsante Samuel, Trent Cole Twitter Accounts Are Fake
Posted by Aaron Wilson on May 18, 2009, 6:18 p.m.
In the latest case of Internet impostors pretending to be players via phony Twitter accounts, someone has been passing themselves off as Philadelphia Eagles cornerback Asante Samuel and defensive end Trent Cole.
The fake Samuel predicted a Super Bowl championship next season and wrote about playing street football in San Francisco. The fake Cole confidently wrote about how he's conducting the "the Sack Express."
However, the fake Tweets were picked up by philly.com Sunday and became the second-most popular article on the site over the past few days.
Eagles director of football media services Derek Boyko pointed out to us via an e-mail today that the posts purported to be from the two players are in fact, "bogus," adding that the team has contacted Samuel and Cole. As it turns out, neither player even has a Twitter account.
"I'm sure this will continue to be a growing problem in our league and the entire entertainment business," wrote Boyko, adding that reporters should feel free to contact the team if there's a question about whether an Eagles player is actually posting on Twitter or other social networking sites like Facebook.
Last night, I posted an item about Dallas Cowboys linebacker DeMarcus Ware where he indicated that a long-term contract extension was close to happening.
I had been following Ware's feed for a few weeks ever since it was added to the list of pro athletes that were believed to be legitimate by Sportsin140.com, which has been doing a great job of pinning down which Twitter accounts are real.
The Twitter account seemed legit, mirroring quotations from the real Ware during recent interviews.
In this case, though, Ware's Twitter account was just as fake as the ones from Peyton Manning and Eli Manning.
The Dallas Morning News also ran an item about Ware's contract talks based on the Twitter account. Later, Ware texted Todd Archer of the Dallas Morning News to point out that it wasn't him on Twitter.
Besides the vast potential for reporting errors through following unconfirmed Twitter accounts, there's a potential legal side to the situation.
Twitter has an impersonation policy, and all of the above listed cases are violations of the terms of service.
That policy states that: "You must not abuse, harass, threaten, impersonate or intimidate other Twitter users," adding that accounts that attempt to confuse or mislead will be permanently suspended.
Under the rules, parody impersonations are allowed if it's clear that it's a parody and not a concerted attempt to imitate the real person.
Prior to the NFL Draft, Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports wrote about how NFL team were using phony Facebook accounts to befriend players in an effort to learn more information about their character and personality.
However, it's a potential violation of federal law governing social networking sites.
As Mike Florio pointed out last month, a Missouri woman was hit with criminal charges by Los Angeles prosecutors after creating a fake MySpace profile that she used to harrass a local girl who committed suicide after being repeatedly taunted.
The bottom line is that everyone needs to be more responsible and wary about social networking sites, including the media.
The Trent Cole line about being a DT should have made me know it was fake
the fact that twitter/myspace/facebook is the source is just pathetic. i've been seeing a lot of "reports" and stories over the last couple of years referencing social network sites as a "source" for their information, which imo, is not even shoddy journalism.....it's just farging lazy.
ESPN's John Clayton reports that Facebook is friggin' sweet.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2009, 10:09:36 PM
the fact that twitter/myspace/facebook is the source is just pathetic. i've been seeing a lot of "reports" and stories over the last couple of years referencing social network sites as a "source" for their information, which imo, is not even shoddy journalism.....it's just farging lazy.
to defend it somewhat, when the page is known and proven to be legit, it is a legit source of information.
i think i only referenced a facebook page once as an editor and that was someones page i knew to be him, so it wasnt a concern of lazy journalism. it was a small detail in a sidebar that was written on deadline. things are different when you basing large articles off of them, like the samuel thing. at that point, and with the obvious backlash sure to come of it, it's probably best to confirm that this twitter page is legit.
Or journalists can actually go out and conduct their own interviews.
Quote from: MDS on May 18, 2009, 10:35:59 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2009, 10:09:36 PM
the fact that twitter/myspace/facebook is the source is just pathetic. i've been seeing a lot of "reports" and stories over the last couple of years referencing social network sites as a "source" for their information, which imo, is not even shoddy journalism.....it's just farging lazy.
to defend it somewhat, when the page is known and proven to be legit, it is a legit source of information.
i think i only referenced a facebook page once as an editor and that was someones page i knew to be him, so it wasnt a concern of lazy journalism. it was a small detail in a sidebar that was written on deadline. things are different when you basing large articles off of them, like the samuel thing. at that point, and with the obvious backlash sure to come of it, it's probably best to confirm that this twitter page is legit.
Every word of this is horseshtein and you should be ashamed of yourself.
ha...farging rj
wait should i take my journalism advice from random, unqualified message board posters?
PR and journalism is heading towards social networking with the quickness. So my professor's tell me.
Quote from: MDS on May 19, 2009, 11:43:58 AM
wait should i take my journalism advice from random, unqualified message board posters?
You can take advice from whoever you want. But as a mass-consumer of journalistic material I will tell you until my face turns blue that getting material from twitter, or myspace, or facebook, or blogs, or seances or whatever other lazy ass bullshtein passes as research these days completely belittles the work that is put out for consumption by today's 'journalists'.
yes but if thats the first place the news was broken, then thats where we have to say it comes from
for example, one of the actors in my name is earl was the first person to say publicly that the show was canceled. and he did so on his twitter page. so when everyone else picks up this info, they have to say where they got it from. now they can call nbc to confirm, but they got the info from said source and thats how it needs to be written.
perhaps it is a problem that reporters are getting beaten to stories by twitter and the lot, but when someone can write a cute little sentence on the internet and not have to field calls from reporters, its easier for them. so they do it. plus the ego boost.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 19, 2009, 11:49:39 AM
PR and journalism is heading towards social networking with the quickness. So my professor's tell me.
obviously it is. i don't need a college professor to tell me that. you can find that out on your own by reading espn articles that reference it or even cnn/faux news/msnbc/etc....they all have referenced a social networking site at one time or another. local news stations in la do it some i'm sure they are everywhere else as well.
i just really can't believe that "legitimate" journalists would actually go to these sites for their stories. it's a pathetic attempt to attract readers/viewers who use those sites. "omg, anderson cooper reads twitter for his stories. he's so kewl."
outside of tabloid and entertainment-type reporters, the entire journalist community should be embarrased by this. pathetic.
Wait. My Name Is Earl has been canceled????
yea but it could go to fox
It's from Sal Pal, but not about Samuel:
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-10-79/Eagles-have-the-cap-space.html (http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-10-79/Eagles-have-the-cap-space.html)
QuoteUnder the Collective Bargaining Agreement, the minimum that NFL
teams must spend on player salaries in 2009 is $107,748,000. Right now, the Eagles are $3.2 UNDER the minimum they must pay players on their roster. That $3.2 million is roughly equivalent to what they will spend on their 2009 draft class.
Impressive
It's fun rooting for a team that is will to pay any price for a championship.
It's real funny that they'll probably have to give the rookies more than they would have normally intended just to meet the minimum player salary requirement.
They could always give Baskett a new deal.
Good thing they raised ticket prices. Again.
It is impressive that they are able to put a competitive team on the field at near-minimum salary.
It would be more impressive if they could add a top-shelf player or two and win a Super Bowl.
Joe Banner said they couldn't possibly spend all their allotted cap. I believe him and you should too.
Fine.
Quote from: Rome on May 19, 2009, 08:51:48 PM
Joe Banner said they couldn't possibly spend all their allotted cap. I believe him and you should too.
How could anybody not believe him? Richard Pryor couldn't do it in Brewster's Millions which was based on a true story
I was reading a thread on the Eagles MB that said:
QuoteLes Bowen was on DNL and he said he talked to McDermott after the game about specific plays and asked him why they couldn't stop the WR screen they kept running. McDermott said they changed the game plan to play more press coverage to take away that screen, but it wasn't executed like McDermott told them to execute it. McDermott was frustrated.
Then Les Bowen was saying how talking to people for some reason Samuel ignored the game plan and played way off the receiver instead of getting up on him to press.
Also I'm not sure if he was quoting Eagles sources or giving his own opinion, but he mentioned there being a thinking that Samuel cares more about personal stats and highlights than listening to the game plan.
Just passing along the tidbit.
Also, I read a blurb in the paper that said Trotter approached/confronted him on the sideline and Asante waved him off and walked away.
If this is true, what the farg.
i play my game my way, stillupfront's mom! so farg you, bitches!!
didnt pretty much everyone say something was up when belichek let a young pro bowler walk