OMG! Andy didn't talk to Donovan on sidelines!
lol, they actually ran a reverse to Hank Baskett on the kickoff return, could you pick someone slower?
1st down. "back on track", game over
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 01:04:52 PM
lol, they actually ran a reverse to Hank Baskett on the kickoff return, could you pick someone slower?
Jean-Gilles?
Quote from: fansince61 on November 11, 2007, 01:07:12 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 01:04:52 PM
lol, they actually ran a reverse to Hank Baskett on the kickoff return, could you pick someone slower?
Jean-Gilles?
debatable...
what a terrible call on the illegal contact
turning onto a nice little drive...thanks to the penalty
3 stupid penalties by the Washington D already
Skins are handing this drive to us.
15-play drive...shovel pass to BWest...TD
nice...i called shovel pass as soon as the backs split
Love that shuttle pass :yay
Well, they've already scored more points than I thought they would all game. :yay
Westbrook is amazing, great second and third effort on that drive. I can already hear the 'Refs fault' excuse coming from skins fans if they lose. Fed Ex field is really quiet, no wonder they had to pump in crowd noise.
Jason Campbell got geologic time on that pass to Randle-El.
Whew, for a second there I thought an Eagles DE was actually going to make a sack. At least the D held them to a punt.
Looks like Bwest is getting the ball like 75% of the time. Running well.
the old mcnabb juke...ha visions of mark Carrier
McNabb with the moves!!
fargng lj
wow, LJ fumbled, what a surprise
Can't LJ Smith get re-injured?
LJ :boom :boom :boom :boom :boom
LJ sucks, he hasnt learned shtein about protecting the football ever
get Dallas Clark
Nice too see Mikell get blasted outta' that last play.
Quote from: shorebird on November 11, 2007, 01:32:04 PM
Nice too see Mikell get blasted outta' that last play.
and he came back and punched Portis
Get Brent Celek.
Watch out for James Thrash, he's really dangerous here in the red zone.
ha...using a DT as a FB from the 4 yd line
FK...James Thrash TD on 3rd down
Damned if you didn't call that one QBEagles
HA....missed XP
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 11, 2007, 01:37:30 PM
Watch out for James Thrash, he's really dangerous here in the red zone.
That was meant to be sarcastic.
awful
I doesn't help that our coverage sucks with a short field.
But what Eagles fan didn't know that Thrash would score one today?
Anyone still want to give LJ an extension?
When one team is giving up TDs to James Thrash, and the other team is missing extra points, you know you are watching a battle between two zesty teams.
Westbrook with two 4-yard gains on two plays when no yardage was available.
Menaffe made it sound like Eagles fans want the Stillers to lose, i could care less
And another three yards out of nothing for Westbrook.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 11, 2007, 01:47:43 PM
Menaffe made it sound like Eagles fans want the Stillers to lose, i could care less
I want them to lose, but I live in Pittsburgh and schadenfreude is in play.
Uncatchable throw by 5.
you gotta make that throw..not even close
they are 3-5 and they suck. go for it on 4th and 2 when you have 36 on the roster. farging fat mormon.
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 01:51:04 PM
you gotta make that throw..not even close
at least he was smiling after overthrowing it by 5 yards :puke
Listening online but it seems like I've heard Merrill call Baskett's name more today than he probably has all season.
farging huge holding on Killa, at least Dawk Killed trash
Thrash is tearing the Eagles a new icehole. ???
will james sucks so bad
did dawk play after that hit, on the replay he looked woozy
Nice to see a team of idiots drawing more penalties than the Eagles.
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 01:55:30 PM
will james sucks so bad
And when I said that when the Eagles signed all I heard was how good he was, he just had injuries that set him back. All you fargers that said that can eat it.
Will James sucking AGAIN
And no one can cover James farging Thrash now? Ok I'll check in later, this is ridiculous.
Thrash might have over 100 yds against James today
and there's another Thrash TD. Eagles losing
farging incredible
Will James is getting owned by James farging Thrash. Christ almighty.
stupid move to go for 2...Gibbs is an embarrassment
Eagles will win 13-12
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
stupid move to go for 2...Gibbs is an embarrassment
He is honestly one of the few current NFL head coaches I would NOT take over Reid. Not kidding.
Thrash only had 3 receptions on the year prior to today's game. Awesome.
Quote from: MDS on November 11, 2007, 01:53:47 PM
they are 3-5 and they suck. go for it on 4th and 2 when you have 36 on the roster. farging fat mormon.
It scares me that I was thinking pretty much this same thing.
lol thrash
Quote from: TexasEagle on November 11, 2007, 02:01:43 PM
And no one can cover James farging Thrash now?
Will James is no one, and he can't cover James Thrash.
James farging Thrash. Unreal, this team continues to come up with new ways to embarrass themselves.
Reed can't jump a fence and he's trying to jump a taterskin?
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 02:03:07 PM
stupid move to go for 2...Gibbs is an embarrassment
Not really. Skins missed their first PAT and no one can cover James Thrash.
Joselios junk can cover better than Will "i'm the best db ever" James. Man the guy is all talk, he has nothing left and shouldnt be playing in Canada
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2007, 02:06:06 PM
Reed can't jump a fence and he's trying to jump a taterskin?
If only he were Mexican
i hate everyone
Piss poor drive.
3 and out
i'm so sick of seeing the same thing...
incomplete pass on 1st down
run on 2nd down for 3 or 4 yards
3rd and 7 play that doesn't get a first down
farging awful
Typical Andy Reid panic mode offense on that 3 and out. No doubt the Skins get a least a FG here.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2007, 02:06:31 PM
Not really. Skins missed their first PAT and no one can cover James Thrash.
yes really
you only go for 2 when it's absolutely necessary, 4th quarter only.
going for 2 just because you missed a PAT is stupid. i guess you would go for two after you scored a touchdown and you had kicked two field goals previously?
Yeah, take the time out now. Washington will go for 4th and 1 and make it, no doubt.
Offense, defense, special teams, coaching...
With the Dallas game and this game, the Philadelphia Eagles have completed the circuit of suck.
Thrash all over the field.
Is Reggie Brown playing today?
McNabb just has really zesty downfield vision. That and accuracy... not his strong points.
Booo. Zero chance Akers makes it.
What a surprise, that drive was useless.
Akers is cooked
yea its kind of depressing to see guys that were once elite on their last mediocre legs. dawkins, akers, trotter last year....i mean, the run was over when that farging fat icehole punted on 4th down against the saints.
with that said, the racists suck and winning this would be the johson.
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 02:25:25 PM
Akers is cooked
Another need
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 11, 2007, 02:20:43 PM
Is Reggie Brown playing today?
I was wondering the same thing about Kearse and just re-checked the inactives to make sure.
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 02:25:25 PM
Akers is cooked
He might have a future a la Morten Andersen, but the Eagles have to stop putting him out there for 50+ yarders, unless he has a swift wind at his back.
Akers did hit a 53 yarder this year. Akers hasn't looked the same this season, but it is far from a need.
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 02:25:25 PM
Akers is cooked
The accuracy was there on that one, but he just doesn't have the leg anymore.
Man, I don't know if we need pressure on the QB more from a DT or DE or a DB that can cover.
on both of those touchdowns we are all over cooley. on the first one where lito hesitated, it was for cooley, who already had 3 guys on him.
on the second touchdown, mikell came in late to cover cooley on a curl (making four covering cooley) and sheldon had no inside/deep help.
i think our need may be db. if we can have 1-2 guys cover cooley instead of 3-4 guys, both of those touchdowns don't happen, let alone william farging james covering thrash and joselio farging hanson on special teams. i hate to admit though, i think trash is a good special teamer, but nothing more that that. and we're looking him look like jerry rice out there.
A pass rush is far more of a need. A pass rush always makes your dbs look better than they are. Will James sucks, but Brown and Lito are better than fine. Cole has a lot of sacks, but isn't consistent and gets dominated at times. We need 2 DEs in the offseason. Not one.
The Eagles need one thing: Will James to be shot in the head.
well, seeing as how campbell has all day and howard and kearse are both probably gone, that's a possibility. wish i watched calais campbell last night, but decided to watch the flyers pound that little bitch sidney crosby instead.
v.a. is playing today. along with tony hunt, go figure.
it's embarrassing that a team this poorly coached is taking the Eagles apart like this
The Eagles have the resources at their disposal to get whatever they need in the offseason. Cap room, a good draft pick assuming they continue to suck, an attractive place for free agents. The only problem is that this team most likely will make us all pull our hair out with the "we will wait for the second wave of free agents to sign" strategy.
Hell, even if they don't wait, I don't trust their talent evaluation. Kearse was their big free agent signing of the last 5 years.
Quote from: King Cole on November 11, 2007, 02:49:13 PM
an attractive place for free agents.
Yep. Nothing like a perennial contender, already 1 or 2 years into their nosedive.
NFL players don't look at it that way. The Eagles are a big market franchise, with top notch facilities. Despite what we see as fans, players want to play here.
Avant totally bitched out after he caught that ball
big balls by Andy, it's about time
Andy finally grew a pair
Anyone notice how Donnyvan keeps blowing on his wittle hands? They must be oh so cold, poor guy.
Gimpy ass McNabb still has way more get up than Campbell. :-D
A Reggie Brown sighting!
Westy having a nice game but I thought we'd see a little of Hunt today,
great job of getting rid of the ball by McNabb
the spitter going to the locker room, good
touchdown LJ
terrible throw on the 2pt attempt...stupid for going for it
LJ actually hung on...
at least the fat farg can laugh about being a moron
terrible throw on the 2pt attempt...stupid for going for it[/b]
Agreed.
i like the aggressive call going for 2, but inaccurate donovan throwing to hank baskett on a short slant is a stupid play call. give the ball to bryant westing.
The pressure on Campbell is nonexistent. Not only are there no turnovers or sacks, but there really doesn't seem to be any threat of either of those events occurring.
Stupid stupid PI.
:boom 85 year-old WR catches the easy TD.
now they're down 2 scores instead of 1 because of going for 2pt
everytime the racists score a native american gets scalped
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 03:18:57 PM
now they're down 2 scores instead of 1 because of going for 2pt
Either way the Eagles would have needed a 2pt conversion and a 1 point conversion. The Eagles just moved the 2pt conversion up earlier in the game. And either way they would have been screwed by missing the 2pt conversion, like they did.
I can feel this drive stalling out at midfield.
Holy shtein, Reggie Brown?
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 11, 2007, 03:25:03 PM
I can feel this drive stalling out at midfield.
:o Who's this #86 guy?
Maybe it was 36
what?
good thing sean taylor is injured. hey, at least our 1st strings can beat their 2nd strings. (on offense anyway)...the skins have, what, 3 o line outu and 1 wr (santana)
That was an amazing (lucky) adjustment on the ball by Brown.
McNabb passes Jaws for most completions in Eagles history
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2007, 02:06:31 PM
Not really. Skins missed their first PAT and no one can cover James Thrash.
yes really
you only go for 2 when it's absolutely necessary, 4th quarter only.
going for 2 just because you missed a PAT is stupid. i guess you would go for two after you scored a touchdown and you had kicked two field goals previously?
Your hatred of the Skins and Gibbs is affecting your sense of humor.
Nice play by Reggie. :yay
Skins are finally going to start inside their 30 yard line but only because of a penalty.
Eagles D really needs to step up here, instead of characteristically laying down and letting the taterskins give it to them in the ass.
jesus farging christ
Betts fumble, recovered by Eagles
might be overturned though
Despite what happens that ball was out. Absolutely positively.
noice!
It's a close call
donovan is such a dumb farg...goddamnit
nevermind
f'ing McNabb
looks about right, go team!
you could see Tra was pissed because the ball was supposed to be out by then
i really hate this farging team
oh my GOD did kearse just get got picked up and slammed down?. so THAT'S where that hole came from
Defensively we can't even stop anyone ::)
This team farging sucks.
guess we have to give some credit to the team for digging in here.
Quote from: 4and26 on November 11, 2007, 03:49:52 PM
guess we have to give some credit to the team for digging in here.
Unless they let them score here, in which case the Eagles have done nothing but take a bunch of time off the clock.
Well, the Eagles have life, thanks to the senility of Joe Gibbs. Will they do anything with it?
so, i'm guessing the script goes was fg, kick return to our 23, then a mcnabb interception off playaction?
can anyone tell me why the eagles used all of their timeouts with 4:30 left in the game? Honestly, are they trying to protect Donovan from a 2 minute drive?
there was no reason to burn all 3 timeouts there, what the farg was andy doing? more piss poor clock management.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 11, 2007, 03:53:59 PM
can anyone tell me why the eagles used all of their timeouts with 4:30 left in the game? Honestly, are they trying to protect Donovan from a 2 minute drive?
They have plenty of time to get down there for the TD. If those timeouts wind up hurting them, other retarded stuff has to happen between now and then.
Quote from: SunMo on November 11, 2007, 03:56:07 PM
there was no reason to burn all 3 timeouts there, what the farg was andy doing? more piss poor clock management.
worse with time management, senile gibbs or andy reid?
BWEST!
WHOA
holy shtein, sweet!
way too much time left though
Wow. great catch and run by westy, but there is over 3 minutes left. Great clock management Andy
Now the defense needs to REALLY step up.
If they lay down like a little bitch here, JJ should be fired on the spot.
2-pt conversion fails again
26-25, 3 mins left
Andrews and Runyan each killed a guy on that screen pass :-D
Too... much... time
what kind of farging 2pt play is that? jesus christ.
now the Skins have a ton of time yet, and the Eagles have no timeouts, if this was Poker, the eagles would have the best hand going into the flop, but wouldn't have the percentages to win the hand
if we win this game and it costs us a higher draft pick, i'm gonna be pissed
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2007, 03:58:35 PM
2-pt conversion fails again
26-25, 3 mins left
Atleast they don't have any time outs.
They'll most likely blow this game but I swear a win here and they can lose every game for the rest of the season and I won't care.
poor clock management and awful 2 pt. conversion plays is probably gonna cost them. but that play was nice.
I want to see one of those corksuckers on the D-line get to Campbell early in this drive. Giving that terrible QB enough time to look decent is embarrassing.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 11, 2007, 03:59:56 PM
if we win this game and it costs us a higher draft pick, i'm gonna be pissed
don't be an idiot
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 11, 2007, 03:59:56 PM
if we win this game and it costs us a higher draft pick, i'm gonna be pissed
I don't think I could ever be pissed about the Eagles beating the Skins.
Huge third down here.
thrash just wanted to point to the sky an thank god for farging up his knee, but couldn't because he was being carried off.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 11, 2007, 04:01:23 PM
I want to see one of those corksuckers on the D-line get to Campbell early in this drive. Giving that terrible QB enough time to look decent is embarrassing.
farg yeah!
There's the defense I was expecting all year
Bahahahahaha. I can't believe our group of scrubs is going to win this game. The D finally steps the farg up.
Westbrook up the middle untouched
33-25
farg THE FORESKINS. THIS GAME IS fargIN OVER!
Bout damn time the defense steps up in crunch time.
i'm pretty sure they let him score to get the ball back...they are still down one score
this game isn't over....not by a long shot
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 11, 2007, 04:06:04 PM
farg THE FORESKINS. THIS GAME IS fargIN OVER!
There's still a shteinload of time left
Rory's retard crew better not farg this one up.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 11, 2007, 04:04:08 PM
thrash just wanted to point to the sky an thank god for farging up his knee, but couldn't because he was being carried off.
:-D
im still scared, ithat was definitely a plan
OK, 2:13 left and the game is within one score. Why is the farging stadium half empty??
Stupid Racists fans.
would it have been smarter to just kneel down there? you never not take points, though.
still... too... much... time
:-X
Quote from: MDS on November 11, 2007, 04:09:25 PM
would it have been smarter to just kneel down there? you never not take points, though.
it was outside of the 2 minute warning, so they couldn't do that without having to give the ball back
the prevent is making me sick
Campbell is no Brian Griese though
kearse standing on the sideline during crunch time...good, i just hope he isn't subbed in
Game
wowoowowowowow
I'm still somewhat shocked we put up 33.
...let alone 20 in the 4th quarter
Another McNabb 4th quarter comeback :paranoid
7th time in 8 years that the Eagles won in Washington
Nice win...I'm happy for the team...Changes nothing..Eagle players deserve better coaching/GM >:(
McNabb: 20/28, 251 yds, 4 TDs, 0 INTs, 7 rushes, 37 yds. Bench
Westbrook almost had 100 yds receiving and rushing
It's amazing how McNabb can have such a good stat line and yet he really didn't seem to play well at all.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 11, 2007, 04:28:07 PM
It's amazing how McNabb can have such a good stat line and yet he really didn't seem to play well at all.
Happens to alot of QB's.
Didinger says this is the 9th time in Westbrook's career that he had a rushing and receiving TD in the same game, tying Thurman Thomas
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2007, 04:33:25 PM
Didinger says this is the 9th time in Westbrook's career that he had a rushing and receiving TD in the same game, tying Thurman Thomas
Most times in the history of the NFL? 3rd most? Give us some perspective, Ed.
I wasn't paying attention enough to hear the whole thing :P
I heard him mention Ahman Green or something
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 11, 2007, 04:28:07 PM
It's amazing how McNabb can have such a good stat line and yet he really didn't seem to play well at all.
Other than the fumble, it sounded like he was playing fairly well all game. Of course, I couldn't see it and only listened so it's probably harder to gain some perspective on it. On the other hand though, it sounded like Jason Campbell was Tom Brady through the first 3.5 quarters of play.
farg Washington.
McNabb was kissed by Andy afterwards.
Westbrook is a pimp.
farg Washington.
Defense blows.
farg the taterskins and Joe Gibbs
Bad news: The taterskins had 2 punts in the game....both in the first half
Good news?: The Eagles had 2 punts in the game....both in the first half
I will say JC had some good throws. I guess that's easier when you have about 16 seconds each time to throw the ball.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2007, 02:02:57 PM
Will James is getting owned by James farging Thrash. Christ almighty.
Gptta remember Thrash owned James when he played for the Eagles. Same double moves he is using on James today he on him when James was a Giant.
Skins had 71 offensive plays.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 11, 2007, 05:59:56 PM
Skins had 71 offensive plays.
They did but in the end the Eagles D finally showed up ..............
Did the FargSkins let them score that last touchdown on purpose?
It would have been a smart move, but they looked so disorganized and dispirited that I can't belive they would have been together enough to call that.
They defensive players were still sort of milling around, and two people in the secondary ran into each other on the way to Westbrook, so i think it was just incompetence.
Which makes me happy.
The NFL put up the video of Westbrook's long TD (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80414073). Check out the sweet blocks that sprung him free. I count at least four great blocks, including two savage hits by Andrews and Runyan.
I thought of it during the play, and now during the replay: How fitting is it that the WASHINGTON PA system was playing "Iron Man" after Westbrook's touchdown?
Did the FargSkins let them score that last touchdown on purpose?
Watching it, and given the score, it seemed that they did let the score to preserve time and get the ball back.
There is no doubt they let the Eagles score the TD. Why not? No timeouts, so a goalline stand would take a lot of time, and assuming the Eagles can convert a <30 yard FG, the skins are down 4 and need a TD anyway.
It's unorthodox, but letting Westbrook walk in was actually the correct coaching move there.
EDIT: Confirmed via ESPN recap...
QuoteThe screen play gave the Eagles a 26-25 lead. Westbrook added one more score with 2:18 to play, a 10-yard run the taterskins admitted they purposely allowed so they could get the ball back with a chance to tie.
"That's exactly what they did. They allowed us to score," Westbrook said. "I wish I would have known that. I would have stopped at the 1. As an offensive player, any time you have an opportunity to get into the end zone, you get into the end zone."
GET JAMES THRASH!!
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 11, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
The NFL put up the video of Westbrook's long TD (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80414073). Check out the sweet blocks that sprung him free. I count at least four great blocks, including two savage hits by Andrews and Runyan.
Andrews blew up Rocky McInstosh, but what Runyan did to Cornelius Griffin (96) was just awesomely brutal. If you slow the video down, Runyan basically not just blindsides him, but swings his arm and jaws him, Runyan actually left his feet, and Griffin was flat on his back for a minute after the play. Runyan is a bad, bad man.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/RunyanMurder.jpg)
missed the game but i see in the stats mcnabb rushed for 37 yds? did he look better moving around?
looked good but you can tell he's not his old self. he still has the torque if you will and the shedding and sliding around in the pocket, he just doesn't have that burst of acceleration he used to. the thing that i think is the most troubling is his throwing. instead of getting his feet under him, it's a lot of balls that his patented worm burners or in the 3rd row, like what he used to do a lot more when he was only throwing with his arm. naturally i guess i'm just hoping that and when he gets his acl 90-100% right, he'll be back to form.
mcnabb was absolutely horrible this game....he had the biggest ghost numbers ive ever seen....can he throw an accurate pass other than a 6 yard out in the flat
the Reggie TD was luck, huh
I counted at least 2 times McNabb threw easy picks that were flat out dropped by the Skins. No idea how he badly misses guys that are wide open then threads the needle like he did on the LJ TD and on the 3rd and 21 to Avant. His numbers were greatly helped due to Westbrooks screen and Browns catch.
Eagles open as a 10-point favorite vs Miami
the reggie catch was he started out doubled w/ a lb (fletcher?) and their backup fs #20 priloleau (sp) (bc i made a comment bc sean taylor left the game and put him in). everyone was kinda stride for stride, lb falls down, i'm not even sure if reggie had a step or 1/2 a step but he had to turn 90 degrees backwards to catch it spinning to his left (where the skins guy couldn't get it) then continue to spin another 90 to go for the td as the skins safety kinda tried to defend the pass and slipped off him.
it was like a off-shoulder (bomb) catch behind the wr, but not planned.
...or WAS it?!? ;)
The ball placement on that Brown catch was about as planned as Travis Henry's kids.
speaking of placement i know the chic thing to do this week is make will james james thrash jokes but the second big catch he had was an unreal throw...there isnt a corner in the league that could have stopped that...gloves are off tho on the stop and go...james got pissed on there....but in the end lets not make more of thrash than is needed
thrash has always been a problem for the eagles. whether he is playing for them or against them.
Quote from: methdeez on November 11, 2007, 07:26:51 PM
Did the FargSkins let them score that last touchdown on purpose?
It would have been a smart move, but they looked so disorganized and dispirited that I can't belive they would have been together enough to call that.
They defensive players were still sort of milling around, and two people in the secondary ran into each other on the way to Westbrook, so i think it was just incompetence.
Which makes me happy.
no doubt. brought back memories of the Packers letting Terrell Davis score in the Super Bowl in 1998. Back fired on the Pack too!
just saw the replay on espn and there is absolutley no doubt they let westy walk in. watch the linebackers and safetys. they just stood there. they didn't need to waste our time and tell us they let him score.
would not have four straight kneel downs have still sealed it for the birds? Washington had no TO's. 2:24 left.
You need to be inside 2:00 to run the clock out (40 seconds per play)
Every scoring drive (except the last) by the Eagles had a penalty by the Skins. 5 penalites for Eagles first downs. This win was a gift - the offense still sucks.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 12, 2007, 03:34:03 AM
just saw the replay on espn and there is absolutley no doubt they let westy walk in. watch the linebackers and safetys. they just stood there. they didn't need to waste our time and tell us they let him score.
would not have four straight kneel downs have still sealed it for the birds? Washington had no TO's. 2:24 left.
I was a little curious as to why the Fat man didn't go for a 2 in that situation making it a 9 pt./2 possession lead rather than an automatic 8 pt./1 possession lead.
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 12, 2007, 12:24:55 AM
Eagles open as a 10-point favorite vs Miami
I'll take the Phins with that spread. 5 of their losses were by 3 pts. or less, plus the Eagles will find some way to farg it up.
Quote from: Don Ho on November 12, 2007, 03:34:03 AM
just saw the replay on espn and there is absolutley no doubt they let westy walk in. watch the linebackers and safetys. they just stood there. they didn't need to waste our time and tell us they let him score.
would not have four straight kneel downs have still sealed it for the birds? Washington had no TO's. 2:24 left.
1. It was already confirmed.
2. You can't kneel down on 4th down to run out the clock.
They could have run it down to 40 seconds, kicked the chip shot, and kicked off to the skins with about 35 seconds left. The way the corners were covering the likes of McCardell and Thrash, would you feel more comfortable with the skins having 30 seconds to score a TD to WIN the game, or 2 minutes to score a TD to maybe make the 2-pointer to TIE the game?
Rule of thumb: Your opponent gives you a free 7 points? You take the farging points.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 12, 2007, 06:35:48 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 12, 2007, 03:34:03 AM
just saw the replay on espn and there is absolutley no doubt they let westy walk in. watch the linebackers and safetys. they just stood there. they didn't need to waste our time and tell us they let him score.
would not have four straight kneel downs have still sealed it for the birds? Washington had no TO's. 2:24 left.
I was a little curious as to why the Fat man didn't go for a 2 in that situation making it a 9 pt./2 possession lead rather than an automatic 8 pt./1 possession lead.
You have to go for 1 on that one because it forces them to get a TD
and a 2 pt conversion to tie with no way to win. If you go for the 2 and don't get it, then the Skins can get a TD and then (what should be) a simple XP to tie and also leave them the option to win with a 2 pt conversion.
Amen, Feva.
black man > fat man > navy man
So you're saying that I can coach either the Eagles or Navy?
Not sure which is the better team at this point.
i'm hoping SD was kidding...
right SD, you were kidding?
ha, seriously.
The attempt to throw the slant to Baskett on the previous 2-pt attempt should be enough proof by itself.
Ugly.
How sad is it that you have to look to a player like Baskett for 2 point conversions and trick returns?
QuoteThe attempt to throw the slant to Baskett on the previous 2-pt attempt should be enough proof by itself.
Ugly.
whats even uglier is watching the farging secondary always running with their backs towards the football, rather than their eyes.
Does anyone else agree with Moose's comment yesterday that with the revolving door at PR and KR....and still no success...that they need to change the lineup of the rest of the STs? Instead of continuing to blame the returners?
Quote from: SunMo on November 12, 2007, 09:21:25 AM
i'm hoping SD was kidding...
right SD, you were kidding?
nah, like I said I was curious. It wasn't like I was chastising him. He went for a 2 pt. conversion when the score was 15-13 in the 2nd.
curiosity killed the cat...and hopefully you too
j/k, lol! BFF!3!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 12, 2007, 10:18:32 AM
Does anyone else agree with Moose's comment yesterday that with the revolving door at PR and KR....and still no success...that they need to change the lineup of the rest of the STs? Instead of continuing to blame the returners?
I blame Segrest
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 12, 2007, 10:40:31 AM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on November 12, 2007, 10:18:32 AM
Does anyone else agree with Moose's comment yesterday that with the revolving door at PR and KR....and still no success...that they need to change the lineup of the rest of the STs? Instead of continuing to blame the returners?
I blame Segrest
Coaching has to be part of the problem, naturally. The holes are simply not there on returns. An elite return man would make a difference, but that's not the root of the issue.
lol @ special teams coaching....anyone on this board could be a st coach...its all about the players and right now they suck...especially the returners...i dont care if you put 25 different return men back there if they are reno mahe and jr reed ect...then they are gonna suck
special teams coaching goes like this...pick your return direction...left right middle...block the farg outta the other team...have a returner with skills....rinse wash repeat
the root is the players just suck that bad on special teams where coaching wouldn't matter, its the talent behind the executing
regroup
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 12, 2007, 11:32:41 AM
special teams coaching goes like this...pick your return direction...left right middle...block the farg outta the other team...have a returner with skills....rinse wash repeat
Wrong. You forgot reverse to Baskett.
those two blocks by runyan and andrews on the westbrook td were great. especially runyans, ouch!
The STs have been pissing me off for awhile now...
Yes, the returners suck.
But its not Rorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry's fault. Those iceholes couldn't block under Harbaugh either. Minus the BMitch days and one good season by the pre-pegleg Reed, they suck.
Quote from: PPinDC on November 11, 2007, 11:44:54 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 11, 2007, 07:47:35 PM
The NFL put up the video of Westbrook's long TD (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80414073). Check out the sweet blocks that sprung him free. I count at least four great blocks, including two savage hits by Andrews and Runyan.
Andrews blew up Rocky McInstosh, but what Runyan did to Cornelius Griffin (96) was just awesomely brutal. If you slow the video down, Runyan basically not just blindsides him, but swings his arm and jaws him, Runyan actually left his feet, and Griffin was flat on his back for a minute after the play. Runyan is a bad, bad man.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/Bobberton/RunyanMurder.jpg)
Watching that play happen real time, my brother and i were going apeshtein when Runyan jumped in the air and clubbed that DT. farging hilarious and brutal at the same time.
Reed did better than buck, but overall the guys up front havent done shtein as far as blocking all year. Sure they dont have a gamebreaker back there, but Blocking makes everyone look good, except Reno
Was this mentioned?
QuoteJohn Smallwood | Dawk's actions show his true leadership
Philadelphia Daily News
IT'S ONE OF the oldest clichés in the book, but sometimes it still hits right on the target.
Actions speak louder than words.
So while it has been important for the Eagles veterans to look at this floundering ship and say that the season is not over and the Birds still have the opportunity to accomplish the goals they set, it takes things to an entirely different level when those same players are willing to put their bodies on the line for the cause.
It probably went unnoticed to a lot of fans watching the Eagles' 33-25, season-extending victory over the Washington taterskins on Sunday.
But after Brian Westbrook turned a simple screen pass into a dynamic, 57-yard touchdown, Brian Dawkins went to Andy Reid and asked to be put on special teams to cover the ensuing kickoff.
In his 12th season, all with the Eagles, Dawkins is the longest-tenured athlete in Philadelphia.
He has been with this franchise through many of its highest and lowest moments. It was only a week before when he had seen his first action after sitting out five games with a neck stinger.
And now with the season on the line, here was Dawkins asking for extra duty on the suicide squad late in a game that might already have been won.
I didn't notice. A lot of you might not have noticed.
But you can be damn sure that Dawkins' teammates noticed.
And if the 12-year veteran coming off a serious injury volunteers for special teams because he believes that getting the team's record to 4-5 is just the first step in saving the season, you better believe the other players got the message loud and clear.
"Yeah, he wanted to get in there," Reid said yesterday of Dawkins, who also played on the Eagles' final kickoff. "It sets a little tempo for things when you have a veteran [in there].
"[Dawkins] wanted to get in there and go, so I let him do it . . . He made a little statement there. He's one of the leaders of the football team and has desire to win games."
Through the Eagles' media relations department, Dawkins denied requests yesterday to talk about his special-teams foray because things are about the team, not him individually.
That's OK because Dawkins' message was clear.
It's the same one that tackles Jon Runyan and William Thomas have been delivering each week as they play through injury.
It's the one that Westbrook and his banged-up body, cornerback Lito Sheppard and his sore knee and quarterback Donovan McNabb and his still-healing body and beat-up ego deliver each time they strap it up and go out on the field for practice and games.
Each game, each practice, each play matters.
"We want to go out and win every game," Westbrook said after the win over Washington. "We have to win every game. We're going to continue to fight, continue to push, and we're going to go to work on Wednesday and do everything we can to win the next one."
It's OK for me to say the Eagles' chances of making the playoffs, much less win the Super Bowl, are virtually nonexistent. I don't have to believe.
I can look at the daunting task in front of them and conclude there is no way this team can win enough games to qualify for the playoffs.
But I'm just an outside observer. It's not going to affect my life all that much if the Eagles make a miracle run or fall on their faces.
The players, on the other hand, they have to believe.
No matter what the odds say, they have to believe that as long as there remains just the slimmest chance, they still have the ability to make it happen.
Just saying it isn't enough.
All players talk the talk, and most of them do it until they are eliminated from the playoffs.
But walking the walk requires a different level of character.
I doubt Dawkins was even thinking about the impression he was making on his teammates when he went out for that kickoff.
I think he was just so zoned in on winning that he was willing to do anything necessary to help preserve a much-needed victory.
Still, cornerback Sheldon Brown said it jacked "everybody up" to see Dawkins running down on kickoffs.
Words are meaningless without the willingness to back them up with action.
I can and do question a lot of things about the Eagles, their ability and their overall talent; I'd never question their effort.
Over the past nine seasons, the moments have been few and very far between when I've actually believed the Eagles have given up.
So no, I don't think the Eagles have much chance of salvaging this season, but I believe them when they say they still believe they have that chance.
I also know they are willing to do whatever it takes to make that happen.
*
I wish there were a way to make Dawkins younger and more physically able, but his attitude aside, he's really not doing much of note on defense.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 13, 2007, 09:06:13 AM
I wish there were a way to make Dawkins younger and more physically able, but his attitude aside, he's really not doing much of note on defense.
Shut your filthy mouth.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 13, 2007, 10:02:42 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 13, 2007, 09:06:13 AM
I wish there were a way to make Dawkins younger and more physically able, but his attitude aside, he's really not doing much of note on defense.
Shut your filthy whore mouth.
fixed
Hate all you want, but the defense has not been very good since his return, and he made a bunch of very visible and very ugly mistakes in coverage in the Dallas game, specifically.
I love the guy. He's just a shell of his former self on the field. The good news is that it's still better than anyone else on the team at safety.
Yeah, well, I'm willing to give him a couple of weeks to come back from his injury and get his shtein together.
Apparently, you are not.
Not to mention, he is also having to clean up the messes that are left by (previously) Considine and now James.
didnt dawkins have one of his better seasons last year?
i know sometimes players lose it over just one season but i doubt it with him. hes been hurt...im willing to see how he performs the rest of the season...but nice to see that he gives a damn.
we need more dawkins on this team. clone him. draft his children already.
he had a good last four games last year...the first three quarters of the year he was i wouldnt say bad but underwhelming...age isnt just a number
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2007, 10:49:29 AM
he had a good last four games last year...the first three quarters of the year he was i wouldnt say bad but underwhelming...age isnt just a number
thats why the lack of addressing the position thru the draft was so dissapointing.
where is gaddis anyway? didnt he sign on with KC?
Barksdale signed with KC
Gaddis is unsigned I believe
nothing like cutting your 5th round pick and nobody else wanting him, at all
I think that stinger scared the shtein out of him, and he realizes his days of playing the Brown Hornet are over.
Like PG said, he is cleaning messes up big time by constant blown coverages, and its making him play out of position....resulting in the criticism. Lost a step? Most definitely
Quote from: Magical_Retard on November 13, 2007, 10:55:24 AM
thats why the lack of addressing the position thru the draft was so dissapointing.
That's because the talent level on the team was so monumentally awesome they didn't need to draft anyone in the first round.
duh, this team is better than 04...lil Davey Spadaro said so
He actually said the defensive line personnel was better than Reggie, Jerome, Pitts & Simmons. Swear to God.
please tell me youre joking
that proves there is no god, because if there was, he would've stricken him down with a stroke after he typed that
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2007, 12:27:22 PM
please tell me youre joking
You'd think I would be but I'm totally serious.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 13, 2007, 10:49:29 AM
he had a good last four games last year...the first three quarters of the year he was i wouldnt say bad but underwhelming...age isnt just a number
I had a feeling you'd agree with me on this.
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 13, 2007, 09:06:13 AM
I wish there were a way to make Dawkins younger and more physically able, but his attitude aside, he's really not doing much of note on defense.
Head Coach Brian Dawkins has a nice ring to it.
I haven't heard the anyone talk about the most pressing and disturbing issue to stem from the game on sunday...
That Brian Westbrooks little brother is named Byron
Quote from: Wingspan on November 13, 2007, 03:21:53 PM
I haven't heard the anyone talk about the most pressing and disturbing issue to stem from the game on sunday...
That Brian Westbrooks little brother is named Byron
Shave the facial hair and you'd think they were twins
Quote from: Wingspan on November 13, 2007, 03:21:53 PM
I haven't heard the anyone talk about the most pressing and disturbing issue to stem from the game on sunday...
That Brian Westbrooks little brother is named Byron
That's because it didn't stem from yesterday's game, but was infact known like a year ago when the Skins signed him.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 13, 2007, 03:29:56 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 13, 2007, 03:21:53 PM
I haven't heard the anyone talk about the most pressing and disturbing issue to stem from the game on sunday...
That Brian Westbrooks little brother is named Byron
Shave the facial hair and you'd think they were twins
That's because they all look alike.
I don't pay attention to the taterskins.
Racist.
Ha!
I was re-watching the game, and Howard came up big on 2 goal line stands. One where TKO almost made Portis fumble, but stopped the surge with a couple guys pulling to the left and the other one where he slipped in and caught Portis from behind.
whowouldathunkit.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on November 13, 2007, 04:40:25 PM
I was re-watching the game, and Howard came up big on 2 goal line stands. One where TKO almost made Portis fumble, but stopped the surge with a couple guys pulling to the left and the other one where he slipped in and caught Portis from behind.
whowouldathunkit.
HIs first 2 plays of the year?
Quote from: Don Ho on November 13, 2007, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 13, 2007, 09:06:13 AM
I wish there were a way to make Dawkins younger and more physically able, but his attitude aside, he's really not doing much of note on defense.
Head Coach Brian Dawkins has a nice ring to it.
nfl films has a new dawkins piece they apparently just made called weapon x or some shtein like that...i happened to catch it yesterday...i dont worship dawkins like most eagle fans do and it had chills going up my spine so i can only imagine what it would do to his fan club members...it was really good
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 14, 2007, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: Don Ho on November 13, 2007, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on November 13, 2007, 09:06:13 AM
I wish there were a way to make Dawkins younger and more physically able, but his attitude aside, he's really not doing much of note on defense.
Head Coach Brian Dawkins has a nice ring to it.
nfl films has a new dawkins piece they apparently just made called weapon x or some shtein like that...i happened to catch it yesterday...i dont worship dawkins like most eagle fans do and it had chills going up my spine so i can only imagine what it would do to his fan club members...it was really good
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's been out for like 2 years now. Wasn't done by NFL Films though, it was an Eagles fan. He occassionally comes on here and posts links to his website whenever he comes out with a new video.
dawk did one himself as a part of some piece with the NFL network
steve sabol was narrating and it was definitely an nfl films special...they also show a highlite of his neck injury this year where he literally is bawling as he lays on the field
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 30, 2007, 12:41:50 PM
Weapon X video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe5B8W8ZyR4)
Its probably this one^^^^
I posted it in the youtube thread a few weeks ago
wow that video is super gay
it wasnt that
it was an nfl films production narrated by steve sabol
it also had tons of interviews with current and former teammates talking about the greatness that is dawk...andy reid too
it was like 10-15 minutes long
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 14, 2007, 02:47:06 PM
wow that video is super gay
I like it, and that's all that matters
no
Quote from: BigEd76 on November 11, 2007, 04:35:47 PM
I wasn't paying attention enough to hear the whole thing :P
I heard him mention Ahman Green or something
I didnt see this addressed. Here is something I saw earlier today:
Quote
For Westbrook, the game against the taterskins just added to his remarkable career numbers. He has eight career games in which he scored at least one touchdown rushing and receiving. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, only four players - Marshall Faulk (15), Ahman Green (nine), Chuck Foreman (nine), and Neal Anderson (nine) - have more. Former Eagle Wilbert Montgomery and Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas also had eight.
Bwest could get 1,000 yards rushing and 1,000 yards receiving this year. Only guys I know to have done that are Roger Craig and I believe Faulk.
I think Tiki did it like 2 or 3 years ago as well.
No.
Craig and Faulk are the only two, although Charlie Garner (remember him?) came close.
Westbrook is currently on pace for 1246 rushing yards and 921 receiving yards.
Less talked about, McNabb is on pace for the only 4000-yard passing season in Eagles history.
Charlie was one of my favorite Birds. I still have the #25 kelly green and #30 midnight green in the closet
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 14, 2007, 08:58:28 PM
Less talked about, McNabb is on pace for the only 4000-yard passing season in Eagles history.
He's the Bobby Abreu of Football
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 14, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 14, 2007, 08:58:28 PM
Less talked about, McNabb is on pace for the only 4000-yard passing season in Eagles history.
He's the Bobby Abreu of Football
That's not really a fair comparison since we've never seen McNabb not hustle on defense.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 14, 2007, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 14, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 14, 2007, 08:58:28 PM
Less talked about, McNabb is on pace for the only 4000-yard passing season in Eagles history.
He's the Bobby Abreu of Football
That's not really a fair comparison since we've never seen McNabb not hustle on defense.
Unless you count joking around on the sideline with a towel on his head while down 14 points, instead of studying photos of the defense. I've seen plenty of that.
actually down by 14 hes usually sulking underneath the towel
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 14, 2007, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on November 14, 2007, 09:52:39 PM
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 14, 2007, 08:58:28 PM
Less talked about, McNabb is on pace for the only 4000-yard passing season in Eagles history.
He's the Bobby Abreu of Football
That's not really a fair comparison since we've never seen McNabb not hustle on defense.
Hahaha.
Quote from: QB Eagles on November 14, 2007, 08:58:28 PM
Less talked about, McNabb is on pace for the only 4000-yard passing season in Eagles history.
And if we can manage to play the Lions once or twice more, he might just get there.
Highlights from the game courtesy of VaBeach Eagle
http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php 183a40066dedc5a6766ee584b9c9cb95&showtopic=160811&view=findpost&p=9532340 (http://boards.philadelphiaeagles.com/index.php%20183a40066dedc5a6766ee584b9c9cb95&showtopic=160811&view=findpost&p=9532340)