gone (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=14302)
This team means bidness.
Wow
And I say wow not because he was any good, but that the Eagles were willing to admit he was a mistake this early on and part ways with him.
So when do Jerome McDougle, Jevon Kearse, and Darren Howard get cut?
I hope McCoy goes crazy and kills Rory farging Segrest.
The furthest McCoy would go is motorboat Shawn Andrews' titties.
Bout time.
That penalty yesterday was dumb as farg and completely typical.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 29, 2007, 04:57:43 PM
Bout time.
That penalty yesterday was dumb as farg and completely typical.
Yep. It's funny that he can be a complete waste for years and they're ok with that, but one bad penalty and he's gone. Oh well, good riddance.
im so tired of these wasted draft picks. F'ing Considine, you're next....
my boy akeem jordan now in uni, eat shtein barksdale
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2007, 05:07:23 PM
im so tired of these wasted draft picks. F'ing Considine, you're next....
Ha. Agreed, Eddo. Once Dawkins comes back healthy, cut Considine.
...but he was a fastball! :-D
as soon as we picked him i thought this andy is a retard. he's like a poor man's simoneau, and how zesty and how much of a Hoyda do you have to be to be labeled that. ugggghh
we can't even draft a guy that runs downfield without farging up. it's like the ghost of jason short.
what i don't get is the f.o. backed up him night and day, constantly saying he was the "one of the higher rated players on the eagles" when he played or he always did well. and he's not starting bc TKO is in there, but if TKO was gone then McCoy could certainly fill in no problem. blah blah blah. then, poof. gone.
...wait, was he the one that was "injured" with a shoulder problem last year and didn't touch the field for the 2nd half of the season?
It's about damn time. Good riddance, cracka.
What, we couldn't have him push the tackling dummies up and down the field first?
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 29, 2007, 06:33:04 PM
...but he was a fastball! :-D
as soon as we picked him i thought this andy is a retard. he's like a poor man's simoneau, and how zesty and how much of a Hoyda do you have to be to be labeled that. ugggghh
we can't even draft a guy that runs downfield without farging up. it's like the ghost of jason short.
what i don't get is the f.o. backed up him night and day, constantly saying he was the "one of the higher rated players on the eagles" when he played or he always did well. and he's not starting bc TKO is in there, but if TKO was gone then McCoy could certainly fill in no problem. blah blah blah. then, poof. gone.
...wait, was he the one that was "injured" with a shoulder problem last year and didn't touch the field for the 2nd half of the season?
thats the saddest part...had they not acquired TKO they would have passed off mcoy as a worthy player. in fact he might have started and we would see articles about him being a great guy and player who is really trying hard.
they did it for gocong.
Quote"This gives Jordan an opportunity get up with the 53-man roster," said Reid. "Matt did a nice job when he was here. We just thought we would make the switch. I'm sure Matt is going to hook on with somebody else and do a great job for them."
He was so great we decided to cut him. You know, just for fun.
I am over-the-top sick of that fat ass. Cut yourself next, tubby. With a straight razor.
Bye bye birdie! Good riddance ya bastich!
I thought the dude sucked balls, but was supposedly a gamer on STs. I followed the game on GameCenter. What was the penalty yesterday all about?
What ever happened to the Togafarg guy they picked up? PS?
Quote from: PPinDC on October 29, 2007, 10:18:25 PM
What was the penalty yesterday all about?
He decked the Minnesota punter. From behind. After the play was over.
Quote from: PPinDC on October 29, 2007, 10:18:25 PM
What ever happened to the Togafarg guy they picked up? PS?
He's on the 53, but he's been deactivated a lot.
the talent base just improved
ill ask the question again...how come the day this pos was drafted everyone knew it was a huge mistake...but the team whose job it is to get these things right was completely clueless
every team makes bad picks...but ive never seen a team who is so obviously wrong at the time of the pick than these eagles
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
ill ask the question again...how come the day this pos was drafted everyone knew it was a huge mistake...but the team whose job it is to get these things right was completely clueless
To this day I think they actually meant to pick Kirk Morrison but somehow farged up and took McCoy by mistake.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
the talent base just improved
ill ask the question again...how come the day this pos was drafted everyone knew it was a huge mistake...but the team whose job it is to get these things right was completely clueless
every team makes bad picks...but ive never seen a team who is so obviously wrong at the time of the pick than these eagles
Y'know something... I agree with every bit of this... but I don't so much blame them for making a bad pick (even one as obvious as McCoy) because every team does. The thing that got me was how many times the Eagles brain trust acted as if we were all idiots because we "just couldn't see" what was so great about this guy.
Then they'll try to spin it off as if it was all about the penalty and not about the fact that McCoy wasn't worth a shtein on the field. Yet, Killa got called for a really stupid penalty last year and he's still around... job safe as ever.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 30, 2007, 08:25:21 AM
To this day I think they actually meant to pick Kirk Morrison but somehow farged up and took McCoy by mistake.
that's a rumor that's been floating around for a few years now
Which would show more ineptitude... picking McCoy on purpose, or by accident?
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 30, 2007, 08:58:34 AM
Which would show more ineptitude... picking McCoy on purpose, or by accident?
hmmm
id say on purpose...because sometimes the accident can go your way....like maybe next time they mean to take a sean considine but end up getting the next brian dawkins
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 30, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
the talent base just improved
ill ask the question again...how come the day this pos was drafted everyone knew it was a huge mistake...but the team whose job it is to get these things right was completely clueless
every team makes bad picks...but ive never seen a team who is so obviously wrong at the time of the pick than these eagles
Y'know something... I agree with every bit of this... but I don't so much blame them for making a bad pick (even one as obvious as McCoy) because every team does. The thing that got me was how many times the Eagles brain trust acted as if we were all idiots because we "just couldn't see" what was so great about this guy.
Then they'll try to spin it off as if it was all about the penalty and not about the fact that McCoy wasn't worth a shtein on the field. Yet, Killa got called for a really stupid penalty last year and he's still around... job safe as ever.
Yeah, it's not the fact that they made a bad pick as much as it is them keeping him on the roster for 2+ years when it's obvious he can't play. And the way they tried to sell him as a starting caliber LB not only shows how stubborn and arrogant that they are but it's also insulting to the fans' intelligence. And McCoy isn't the only player they've done this with either. Considine, Simoneau, Thrash, Na (best hands on the team) Brown, etc, etc.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 30, 2007, 08:58:34 AM
Which would show more ineptitude... picking McCoy on purpose, or by accident?
hmmm
id say on purpose...because sometimes the accident can go your way....like maybe next time they mean to take a sean considine but end up getting the next brian dawkins
But what if they mean to take the next Brian Dawkins and end up getting a Sean Considine?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 09:07:09 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 30, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
the talent base just improved
ill ask the question again...how come the day this pos was drafted everyone knew it was a huge mistake...but the team whose job it is to get these things right was completely clueless
every team makes bad picks...but ive never seen a team who is so obviously wrong at the time of the pick than these eagles
Y'know something... I agree with every bit of this... but I don't so much blame them for making a bad pick (even one as obvious as McCoy) because every team does. The thing that got me was how many times the Eagles brain trust acted as if we were all idiots because we "just couldn't see" what was so great about this guy.
Then they'll try to spin it off as if it was all about the penalty and not about the fact that McCoy wasn't worth a shtein on the field. Yet, Killa got called for a really stupid penalty last year and he's still around... job safe as ever.
Yeah, it's not the fact that they made a bad pick as much as it is them keeping him on the roster for 2+ years when it's obvious he can't play. And the way they tried to sell him as a starting caliber LB not only shows how stubborn and arrogant that they are but it's also insulting to the fans' intelligence. And McCoy isn't the only player they've done this with either. Considine, Simoneau, Thrash, Na (best hands on the team) Brown, etc, etc.
dhani, fred ex, pinkston, cecil martin, and the list goes on and on....
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 09:09:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 09:02:09 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 30, 2007, 08:58:34 AM
Which would show more ineptitude... picking McCoy on purpose, or by accident?
hmmm
id say on purpose...because sometimes the accident can go your way....like maybe next time they mean to take a sean considine but end up getting the next brian dawkins
But what if they mean to take the next Brian Dawkins and end up getting a Sean Considine?
what if sean considine is the next brian dawkins? :o
Don't kid yourself. Sean Considine isn't even the next Brian Boitano.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 30, 2007, 09:09:21 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 09:07:09 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 30, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
the talent base just improved
ill ask the question again...how come the day this pos was drafted everyone knew it was a huge mistake...but the team whose job it is to get these things right was completely clueless
every team makes bad picks...but ive never seen a team who is so obviously wrong at the time of the pick than these eagles
Y'know something... I agree with every bit of this... but I don't so much blame them for making a bad pick (even one as obvious as McCoy) because every team does. The thing that got me was how many times the Eagles brain trust acted as if we were all idiots because we "just couldn't see" what was so great about this guy.
Then they'll try to spin it off as if it was all about the penalty and not about the fact that McCoy wasn't worth a shtein on the field. Yet, Killa got called for a really stupid penalty last year and he's still around... job safe as ever.
Yeah, it's not the fact that they made a bad pick as much as it is them keeping him on the roster for 2+ years when it's obvious he can't play. And the way they tried to sell him as a starting caliber LB not only shows how stubborn and arrogant that they are but it's also insulting to the fans' intelligence. And McCoy isn't the only player they've done this with either. Considine, Simoneau, Thrash, Na (best hands on the team) Brown, etc, etc.
dhani, fred ex, pinkston, cecil martin, and the list goes on and on....
I figured that was all covered by the "etc, etc" part.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 30, 2007, 09:09:21 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 09:07:09 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 30, 2007, 08:50:29 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:19:14 AM
the talent base just improved
ill ask the question again...how come the day this pos was drafted everyone knew it was a huge mistake...but the team whose job it is to get these things right was completely clueless
every team makes bad picks...but ive never seen a team who is so obviously wrong at the time of the pick than these eagles
Y'know something... I agree with every bit of this... but I don't so much blame them for making a bad pick (even one as obvious as McCoy) because every team does. The thing that got me was how many times the Eagles brain trust acted as if we were all idiots because we "just couldn't see" what was so great about this guy.
Then they'll try to spin it off as if it was all about the penalty and not about the fact that McCoy wasn't worth a shtein on the field. Yet, Killa got called for a really stupid penalty last year and he's still around... job safe as ever.
Yeah, it's not the fact that they made a bad pick as much as it is them keeping him on the roster for 2+ years when it's obvious he can't play. And the way they tried to sell him as a starting caliber LB not only shows how stubborn and arrogant that they are but it's also insulting to the fans' intelligence. And McCoy isn't the only player they've done this with either. Considine, Simoneau, Thrash, Na (best hands on the team) Brown, etc, etc.
dhani, fred ex, pinkston, cecil martin, and the list goes on and on....
I figured that was all covered by the "etc, etc" part.
no they should be pointed out constantly. if i forgot any add them. these losers dont deserve the "etc".
The Considine pick is even more brutal when you consider they had all night Saturday to decide who to pick.
But what if they mean to take the next Brian Dawkins and end up getting a Sean Considine?
thats still not as bad as purposely taking the next sean considine
i don't hate Considine in the 4th round too much, i don't know where anybody else had him slotted, i hate that they think he's a starter. if they drafted him in the 4th round and let him be the special teamer he should be, everything would be fine, but they keep trying to jam him in the starting lineup and it makes everything unfine
I thought McCoy looked like a beast in training camp last year. I honestly thought he was going to be a decent player but I was as wrong as I could possibly be. Thing is I don't get paid gobs of money to be a talent evaluator. Reid & Heckert farged up royally with that kid - but then again, it's not like they haven't screwed the pooch before.
I've never seen a team make so many mistakes at linebacker and wide receiver. You'd think those two positions would be the easiest to grade out in terms of playing potential, but I guess not.
James Darling
Barry Gardner
Quinten Caver
Matt McCoy
Second round is like a LB Bermuda Triangle for the Eagles. Make it stop.
Quote from: SunMo on October 30, 2007, 09:23:29 AM
i don't hate Considine in the 4th round too much, i don't know where anybody else had him slotted, i hate that they think he's a starter. if they drafted him in the 4th round and let him be the special teamer he should be, everything would be fine, but they keep trying to jam him in the starting lineup and it makes everything unfine
last season when micheal lewis was stinking it up and we knew he was gone...there was no other option. so of course like a moron this offseason i believed they would sign someone or draft someone to replace micheal lewis.
michael lewis was playing 20 times better than Considine is playing now, stop buying into the spin. just because lewis got beat once or twice on pass plays doesn't mean he wasn't doing his job otherwise. his job as a strong safety is run support, something Considine can't do. the move shouldn't have been made last year and it sure as hell shouldn't have been kept this year.
cant wait for belichek vs considine
Michael Lewis wasn't benched because of his play. He was benched because he wouldn't sign one of the Eagles' trademarked "hometown discount" contracts. Once contract negotiations broke down he was in the dog house and never got out.
Reid's a vindictive douchebag and so is the four-eyed funhole who negotiates the contracts.
pretyy sure i was saying that all last year and got killed for it
i said it first!
Mikell is better than Lewis also.
That said...it's not like Lewis has been worth what he's been paid by SF by any stretch. I know absence makes the heart grow fonder, but let's not get carried away. Lewis was not good last year....
I don't think Considine is playing any worse than Lewis this year or last year. The problem is that, once again, we are not setting the bar very high.
i wasnt implying that i bought into the eagles position of not resigning him or benching him but that we all knew he was gone and his play last season did not help. point was instead of replacing him and improving the position at the same time they just sat back and did nothing and promoted another one of these project players.
when at the draft the eagles claimed they liked merriweather (was it him or the other safety?) but that once he was off the board they traded down...was BS because if they really like a player they have shown they will move up and or make some moves to acquire that player. they sat by counting on considine to start and magically becoming a good player.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 30, 2007, 10:05:17 AM
I don't think Considine is playing any worse than Lewis this year or last year. The problem is that, once again, we are not setting the bar very high.
every one believed considine was better in coverage and he may be so marginally but micheal lewis was more of sure tackler. they improved on one weakness (barely) and invited another.
Actually, I think the two are comparable in both situations. Lewis made mental mistakes in coverage where Considine doesn't have the athleticism to cover many people. Lewis made a lot of big hits but would overpursue and miss some easy ones, where Considine is usually in good position for a tackle but can't always physically make it.
Basically, Considine's brain in Lewis's body would make a damn good safety. As it stands now, neither of them are very good at all.
i don't remember seeing Lewis "miss some easy ones" he'd easily be better in this defense than Considine
Neither would compare to your mom. She'd be a great fit in the Jim Johnson defense. He's an evil genius of blitzing, you know. Your mom could line up right behind the DT's, off the edge, or just play center field. She'd be all-pro in this scheme. Much more than in a cover 2.
you can make a solid argument that the eagles lost the new orleans playoff game because they refused to put lewis in for considine during the second half when the saints were gashing the farg out of the eagles run defense
i totally agree with retard...im not saying they should have resigned lewis but to replace him with considine is unacceptable
[CO]Considine would be a good player if he could tackle worth a damn. He's quick to the ball but is nothing more than a speed bump when he gets there.
Quote from: SunMo on October 30, 2007, 10:36:51 AM
i don't remember seeing Lewis "miss some easy ones" he'd easily be better in this defense than Considine
I remember him going for a couple big hits, only to miss completely or hit the guy, but only Lewis would fall down.
Basically this thread has devolved into a "who sucks less" argument and that makes me even more depressed about the state of this franchise.
So thanks for that.
Jerks.
I don't know what you guys are bitching about! With another year in the system and some experience, while beefing up his Hoyda, Considine will be a l-e-g-i-t starter! No need to draft Kenny Phillips.
We sometimes wait and get the player we wanted (Bunkley). Heckert gets on his high horse and says we wanted him, figured we could wait and did and got him. Then we pick complete douchebags like McCoy in the fargING 2nd round and (trade up?) for Considine. Sean isn't complete white diarrhea, but he shouldn't be starting.
2 questions:
I still can't believe we didn't get Merriweather. Anyone knows how he's playing this year?
Why don't we try Mikell at SS?
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on October 30, 2007, 01:14:18 PM
I don't know what you guys are bitching about! With another year in the system and some experience, while beefing up his Hoyda, Considine will be a l-e-g-i-t starter! No need to draft Kenny Phillips.
We sometimes wait and get the player we wanted (Bunkley). Heckert gets on his high horse and says we wanted him, figured we could wait and did and got him. Then we pick complete douchebags like McCoy in the fargING 2nd round and (trade up?) for Considine. Sean isn't complete white diarrhea, but he shouldn't be starting.
2 questions:
I still can't believe we didn't get Merriweather. Anyone knows how he's playing this year?
Why don't we try Mikell at SS?
1. They actually traded out of the 3rd round and drafted Considine with the first pick in the 4th.
2. Trying Mikell at SS? That is a novel idea that no one else has mentioned!
Merriweather just got drug 10 yrds into the endzone by Chris Cooley in garbage time vs the Skins sunday. he's a backup right now.
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1. Derrick Johnson Texas
2. Kevin Burnett Tennessee
3. Darryl Blackstock Virginia
4. Matt McCoy San Diego St.
5. Ernest Shazor Michigan
6. Rian Wallace Temple
7. Ryan Claridge U.N.L.V.
8. Jordan Beck, Cal Poly
9. Michael Boley Southern Miss
10. Jonathan Welsh Wisconsin
11. Derek Wake Penn St.
12. Cornelius Wortham Alabama
13. Jared Newberry Stanford
14. Marques Harris Utah St.
15. Roger Cooper Montana St.
top 15 OLB's in the 2005 draft. nothing exciting.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 30, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
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1. Derrick Johnson Texas
2. Kevin Burnett Tennessee
3. Darryl Blackstock Virginia
4. Matt McCoy San Diego St.
5. Ernest Shazor Michigan
6. Rian Wallace Temple
7. Ryan Claridge U.N.L.V.
8. Jordan Beck, Cal Poly
9. Michael Boley Southern Miss
10. Jonathan Welsh Wisconsin
11. Derek Wake Penn St.
12. Cornelius Wortham Alabama
13. Jared Newberry Stanford
14. Marques Harris Utah St.
15. Roger Cooper Montana St.
top 15 OLB's in the 2005 draft. nothing exciting.
again no problem with the pick, esp in the 4rth round, just a problem with this FO who likes to pass of turds as delicious succulent juicy kebabs.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 30, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
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1. Derrick Johnson Texas
2. Kevin Burnett Tennessee
3. Darryl Blackstock Virginia
4. Matt McCoy San Diego St.
5. Ernest Shazor Michigan
6. Rian Wallace Temple
7. Ryan Claridge U.N.L.V.
8. Jordan Beck, Cal Poly
9. Michael Boley Southern Miss
10. Jonathan Welsh Wisconsin
11. Derek Wake Penn St.
12. Cornelius Wortham Alabama
13. Jared Newberry Stanford
14. Marques Harris Utah St.
15. Roger Cooper Montana St.
top 15 OLB's in the 2005 draft. nothing exciting.
Pro. Bowl.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 30, 2007, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 30, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
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1. Derrick Johnson Texas
2. Kevin Burnett Tennessee
3. Darryl Blackstock Virginia
4. Matt McCoy San Diego St.
5. Ernest Shazor Michigan
6. Rian Wallace Temple
7. Ryan Claridge U.N.L.V.
8. Jordan Beck, Cal Poly
9. Michael Boley Southern Miss
10. Jonathan Welsh Wisconsin
11. Derek Wake Penn St.
12. Cornelius Wortham Alabama
13. Jared Newberry Stanford
14. Marques Harris Utah St.
15. Roger Cooper Montana St.
top 15 OLB's in the 2005 draft. nothing exciting.
again no problem with the pick, esp in the 4rth round, just a problem with this FO who likes to pass of turds are delicious succulent juicy kebabs.
mccoy was a second rounder
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 03:25:25 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 30, 2007, 03:20:23 PM
Quote from: Don Ho on October 30, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
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1. Derrick Johnson Texas
2. Kevin Burnett Tennessee
3. Darryl Blackstock Virginia
4. Matt McCoy San Diego St.
5. Ernest Shazor Michigan
6. Rian Wallace Temple
7. Ryan Claridge U.N.L.V.
8. Jordan Beck, Cal Poly
9. Michael Boley Southern Miss
10. Jonathan Welsh Wisconsin
11. Derek Wake Penn St.
12. Cornelius Wortham Alabama
13. Jared Newberry Stanford
14. Marques Harris Utah St.
15. Roger Cooper Montana St.
top 15 OLB's in the 2005 draft. nothing exciting.
again no problem with the pick, esp in the 4rth round, just a problem with this FO who likes to pass of turds are delicious succulent juicy kebabs.
mccoy was a second rounder
oops im thinking of considine.
anyway everyone makes bad picks...or busts but point still remains. admit it and move on. dont try to force it.
They did pass on his teammate (Morrison), and he has turned out to be pretty damn good for Oaktown.
Surprise surprise McCoy was picked up by the Aints
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 03, 2007, 04:57:58 PM
Surprise surprise McCoy was picked up by the Aints
Peyton luvs him some former Eagles.
fresh new Saints bio (http://neworleanssaints.com/Team/Roster/People/Matt%20McCoy.aspx)
QuoteWould like to start a security management company.
Maybe he'll get his shot soon
(http://s.neworleanssaints.com/~/media/B9B90E191B2F4D30939D200F948311FA.ashx?w=200&mw=200&h=250&mh=250)
He's got different color eyes! That's tight!!!
GET MCCOY!!!