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Title: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 08:07:39 PM
broderick bunkley is the truth....he was the best player on the field offense or defense today...dominant is the word that comes to mind

as good as bunk was the eagle linebackers were that bad....even takeo....what a blowhard hes been...i hope gocong is out for the year....and omar gaither is a backup...was stewart bradley really playing tonight?...jesus that guy should never seen the face of a field till next preseason
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on October 28, 2007, 08:34:26 PM
I didn't see much of the game I listened to most of it on Sirius, but they were saying that Gocong had a good game.  I did hear is name mentioned a few times. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 08:37:44 PM
he had his his first tackle of the year so he must have had his best game ever

pretty sure considine had his first johnson of the year

guess he had a great game too
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Don Ho on October 28, 2007, 09:02:24 PM
from what i saw Gocong had a pretty good game.  he is definitely getting better.  agreed on takeo.  wtf has he done?  please put us out of the darren howard misery already.  guy disappears when the whistle blows.  if cole keeps this up he can book his ticket to honolulu already.

redzone incompetence is wearing thin.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 28, 2007, 09:17:39 PM
I was farged up for most of the game and family wound up coming over so I had a hard time following the game as closely as I would have liked. Didn't think GoCong had a bad game, in fact, I'd venture to say this was his best game of the season. The middle of the D-line has been stout all year minus a couple of meltdowns. Aside from a couple of good runs Peterson wasn't the factor he could have been today. The Eagles did a good job of holding him n check. Still hate the fact that the D gives up early TDs so easy. McNabb's looking better every week and the O-line is starting to gel. Jackson had a rough day at center, probably his worst game as an Eagle.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 09:21:31 PM
I thought Gocong played pretty well to be honest.

He was reading plays well. Especially the stick he had on the goal line when the Vikes were backed up. He cut through the blocking to make a great tackle.

Bunkley is playing excellent.

Why were the Eagles continuously running into the teeth of that defense? Pat Williams is big, Kevin Williams is a stud. Westbrook is fast - run off tackle or outside please.

Sheldon's offsides was stupid. Yo Sheldon, look to your right to see if you're offsides will ya?

Rocca was good.

Cole is a farging stud.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 09:25:38 PM
Curtis' catch was amazing too....

Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 09:27:26 PM
gocong made a tackle so he had a good game

i get it?!
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Magical_Retard on October 28, 2007, 09:27:36 PM
did LJ Smith play? how did he do?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 28, 2007, 09:34:29 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 09:27:26 PM
gocong made a tackle so he had a good game

i get it?!

According to the stats he had 7 tackles and 1 assist which lead the team.

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 09:21:31 PM

Why were the Eagles continuously running into the teeth of that defense? Pat Williams is big, Kevin Williams is a stud. Westbrook is fast - run off tackle or outside please.

I was waiting to see them run it off tackle or try a stretch play since Jackson was getting tossed around like a ragdoll in the middle.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 09:37:09 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 09:27:26 PM
gocong made a tackle so he had a good game

i get it?!
He played good all game. I pointed out one good play he made.

Retard,

LJ played...and he played like shtein. He was open for a TD and McNabb hurled it about 7 feet over his head.

SD,

Me too. Jackson was getting pimped in there. Although it would have been funny to watch what Pat Williams and the second person he had stuffed under his jersey would have done to Fraley.

Speaking of blocking; they need a TE who can block. Someone who can seal the edge. Schobel and Celek aren't that guy.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 09:40:37 PM
we are seven games into the season and we still have homers reaching out to the worst players on the team because their name appeared in a box score
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 28, 2007, 09:43:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 09:40:37 PM
we are seven games into the season and we still have homers reaching out to the worst players on the team because their name appeared in a box score

okay he's awful but he had a good game. What else do you want from him? The Eagles kept Peterson in check and he had a solid game.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 09:44:43 PM
IGY's drunk and got bit on the arm by a skins fan...let him be salty
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 09:45:16 PM
Worst in your mind because you don't like him. Dude played good. If I'm a homer for saying that, then whatever.

This defense has played good all year minus a few drives here and there. Its not a stretch to say the LB play has been a reason why they have been better.

They need more big plays out of them though. But then again, the LBs, in this scheme have never been sack guys or INT guys. Thats a mix of the scrubs they have had there and what JJ does with them.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 28, 2007, 09:45:57 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 09:25:38 PM
Curtis' catch was amazing too....



Curtis catch (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d803ac551)
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: 4and26 on October 28, 2007, 09:56:36 PM
For what's worth a win is  a win...

It's Dallas week and this team gets up for Dallas.....


farg Dallas
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 09:56:50 PM
i the linebackers as a group have been mediocre...which is an improvment, so i guess as a net gain they've been good.  but i still would like to see a mother farging playmaker
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 10:25:57 PM
lol @ linkin youtube curtis catches

the eagles beat the vikings and that transforms every single person on the roster to a super player

i put birds fans above that......maybe i was wrong
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 28, 2007, 10:32:53 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 10:25:57 PM
lol @ linkin youtube curtis catches



NFL.com

I was praying for a win this week so next weeks game vs. Dallas has more meaning.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Magical_Retard on October 28, 2007, 10:35:39 PM
no one is even really caring or celebrating this win and to igy everyone is a homer.


Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 10:39:17 PM
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 28, 2007, 10:35:39 PM
no one is even really caring or celebrating this win

Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 09:25:38 PM
Curtis' catch was amazing....
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 28, 2007, 11:03:50 PM
Wait...

So I say Gocong played well, which he did. And point out that Curtis' catch was amazing and I am all jacked about the win and homered up?

Please.

Callin' it like I see it.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: MadMarchHare on October 28, 2007, 11:24:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 10:25:57 PM
lol @ linkin youtube curtis catches

the eagles beat the vikings and that transforms every single person on the roster to a super player

i put birds fans above that......maybe i was wrong

Dude, I get it, and agree, this team blows.  That doesn't make that catch any less impressive.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 11:25:34 PM
yeah, that was a great catch
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 28, 2007, 11:28:15 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 11:25:34 PM
yeah, that was a great catch
it was teh greatest catch i've ever seen, its like Jesus came down and put it back in his hands  :boom
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 11:33:04 PM
i thought jesus was his hands?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on October 28, 2007, 11:33:16 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 28, 2007, 11:28:15 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 11:25:34 PM
yeah, that was a great catch
it was teh greatest catch i've ever seen, its like Jesus Joseph Smith came down and put it back in his hands  :boom
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 28, 2007, 11:34:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 11:33:04 PM
i thought jesus was his hands?
Jesus is a leather football in my household, every sunday we worship the shtein out of it
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 11:35:38 PM
jesus has an unfair advantage because the point of the ball settles nicely right in the hole in his palm
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 28, 2007, 11:36:58 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 11:35:38 PM
jesus has an unfair advantage because the point of the ball settles nicely right in the hole in his palm
They also make masterbating that much more fun
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 28, 2007, 11:38:43 PM
only if you dick is the size of a crucifixion nail
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 28, 2007, 11:40:00 PM
somehow we always find our way back to cocks

slow your roll gays
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: The BIGSTUD on October 29, 2007, 02:01:55 AM
Takeo and Gaither are playing at a pro bowl level right now. The linebackers are ther strength of the defense right now. Funny saying that after last season.

The d-line has been good, but not on a whole. Bunkley, Patterson, and Cole have been good. Kearse has been garbage, Howard... is he still on the team? Juqua makes a play here or there.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 29, 2007, 06:57:57 AM
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2007, 02:01:55 AM
Takeo and Gaither are playing at a pro bowl level right now. The linebackers are ther strength of the defense right now. Funny saying that after last season.

The d-line has been good, but not on a whole. Bunkley, Patterson, and Cole have been good. Kearse has been garbage, Howard... is he still on the team? Juqua makes a play here or there.
I hope to god you are kidding about Gaither and Spikes, i can never tell. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Rome on October 29, 2007, 07:32:48 AM
A garbage team beats another garbage team in a game that no one outside of Philly or Minnesota gave a farg about.

H-o-o-r-a-h.


Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2007, 02:01:55 AM
Takeo and Gaither are playing at a pro bowl level right now. The linebackers are ther strength of the defense right now. Funny saying that after last season.

And one other thing: The comment above might be the single dumbest thing I've ever seen written here.  You take being a clown to staggering new heights, dude.  Seriously.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 07:52:22 AM
Frankly, IGY, your over-criticism of all non-black players on the team is wearing thin.

Curtis is a solid player and I contend the team is no worse off than if they'd re-signed Stallworth.  They're actually more similar players than you give Curtis credit for.

Gocong is nothing special, but he's no worse than Dhani.


This team has talent issues and surely could do better at many positions, including the two above mentioned.  But neither of those guys are playing so badly that they should draw anyone's ire.


Anyway, Reid didn't abandon the run, even though nothing big was breaking off.  What an icehole.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: MadMarchHare on October 29, 2007, 08:01:01 AM
He didn't technically abandon the run any more than usual......(23:41)
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 08:09:11 AM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 29, 2007, 08:01:01 AM
He didn't technically abandon the run any more than usual......(23:41)

Exactly.  Considering the Vikings D is much better against the run, I expected at least 80% passes.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Feva on October 29, 2007, 08:25:18 AM
Yep... If there was ever a game to say "farg it" to the running game... this was it.

Overall, I think Reid called a pretty solid game.  One surprising thing was at the end of the game after the Eagles forced a punt... Andy called no pass plays.

There were people in the bar I was at screaming for play-action and screen passes and all that other shtein.  Made me sick... and I explained that Andy has no business calling anything other than 3 runs with Westbrook.  That last posession wasn't about getting yardage... it was about milking clock, making the Vikings use their last timeout and then giving them the ball having to drive the length of the field.  If Westbrook happened to break one for 1st down yardage... that'd simply be a bonus.

Thank God that Andy was thinking sensibly at the moment because that's exactly what he did.  Rocca's punt was a thing of beauty, btw and he delivered at that point just as he was needed to.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 29, 2007, 08:56:55 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 29, 2007, 07:52:22 AM


Curtis is a solid player and I contend the team is no worse off than if they'd re-signed Stallworth.  They're actually more similar players than you give Curtis credit for.


the team may be no worse off, but Stallworth is a much better player than Curtis
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 08:59:39 AM
The amount of time Curtis is actually healthy and playing at 100% ups his average.

I guarantee that if Curtis is in New England and Stallworth were in Philly, Curtis would have all kinds of sickening numbers... and Stallworth would be benched with a sore vagina.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 29, 2007, 09:21:48 AM
yeah, but the Patriots had the choice of the two, and they picked Stallworth
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Zanshin on October 29, 2007, 09:23:04 AM
Exactly.  Stallworth is more talented overall, but you can't rely on him from week to week.  Curtis has been rock solid and dependable.  I think he's been one of the few bright spots of the year, actually.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Zanshin on October 29, 2007, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2007, 09:21:48 AM
yeah, but the Patriots had the choice of the two, and they picked Stallworth

No, they picked Stallworth AND Moss AND Welker.  Stallworth plays for them, they're in good shape.  If he comes up lame...they're still in good shape.  Stallworth would have essentially been the only game in town here.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 29, 2007, 09:32:30 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 29, 2007, 07:52:22 AM
Curtis is a solid player and I contend the team is no worse off than if they'd re-signed Stallworth.  They're actually more similar players than you give Curtis credit for.

Gocong is nothing special, but he's no worse than Dhani.

please tell me if im not following you here

the teams #1 wr is "solid" and gocong is better than dhani jones?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 29, 2007, 09:49:22 AM
everyone forgets the Eagles tried to sign stallworth first then signed curtis as a backup, they obviously think he's better too
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 09:51:44 AM
Curtis is arguably the 2nd-best WR to play for the Eagles under Andy Reid, behind T.O.  He's a very good player.  If Brown continues to step up, they would be a somewhat-adequate starting WR combo, something rare in the Reid era.

The fact is you hate on Curtis and routinely call him a "good #3 receiver".  He's better than that.


Gocong, also, is better than you claim.  He's nothing exciting, but he hasn't been a severe liability like Considine.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: BigEd76 on October 29, 2007, 09:58:36 AM
Since the Eagles won, WIP had to find something else to complain about.  Today's topic:  why was Dawkins allowed to travel with the team when McNabb and Sheppard were told that they couldn't go to New Orleans for the playoff game?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Feva on October 29, 2007, 10:00:48 AM
Somebody tell those idiots that Dawkins didn't travel with the team.  He flew to Minnesota by himself.


Literally by himself.


With no plane.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Zanshin on October 29, 2007, 10:01:36 AM
Because he's Dawkins.  The end.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Zanshin on October 29, 2007, 10:02:49 AM
Oh, and when and if Dawkins comes back, I'd like to see Mikell get a shot at SS.  Seriously couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 10:02:56 AM
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 29, 2007, 09:58:36 AM
Since the Eagles won, WIP had to find something else to complain about.  Today's topic:  why was Dawkins allowed to travel with the team when McNabb and Sheppard were told that they couldn't go to New Orleans for the playoff game?

Scintillating stuff.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Rome on October 29, 2007, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2007, 10:00:48 AM
Somebody tell those idiots that Dawkins didn't travel with the team.  He flew to Minnesota by himself.


Literally by himself.


With no plane.

Hahaha
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 29, 2007, 10:29:52 AM
don't laugh at that
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 10:58:56 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on October 29, 2007, 10:03:45 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 29, 2007, 10:00:48 AM
Somebody tell those idiots that Dawkins didn't travel with the team.  He flew to Minnesota by himself.


Literally by himself.


With no plane.

Hahaha

LMAO!  Weapon X!  LOLLERSKATES!!1
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 29, 2007, 11:21:00 AM
Seriously, who thinks that Banner is going to tell Brian Dawkins no?

McNabb probably pouted.  Dawkins would have torn Banner's head clear off.

More seriously, when was Dawkins actually ruled out for the game.  There was no doubt about McNabb in New Orleans.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 11:25:46 AM
Quote from: SunMo on October 29, 2007, 09:49:22 AM
everyone forgets the Eagles tried to sign stallworth first then signed curtis as a backup, they obviously think he's better too

They had a first crack at Stallworth due to NFL rules.  Curtis wasn't yet a free agent.  From what we know, they offered Stallworth a lowball one-year deal and offered Curtis a big dollar multi-year contract.  So, your logic is flawed.

Plus, seriously, even if Stallworth truly is about 8 times better than Curtis, as you and IGY believe... do you really think Andy Reid would try to sign an injury-prone potsmoking black guy with dreadlocks, or a Wonderlic-acing, great white hope, Mormon?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: dis12 on October 29, 2007, 11:41:46 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on October 29, 2007, 10:02:49 AM
Oh, and when and if Dawkins comes back, I'd like to see Mikell get a shot at SS.  Seriously couldn't hurt.
absofargenlutely!!
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 29, 2007, 01:40:40 PM
the sad thing is that the eagles would only sign one or the other...like its a given that they could never sign two wr's in one year

and im glad gocong doesnt completely suck....be proud
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 29, 2007, 01:52:20 PM
The linebackers are better than they've been as a whole in a long time.

They are highly unspectacular but also not being victimized routinely in the run game or by tight ends.


Could the Eagles upgrade any linebacker position by adding a total stud?  Yes.  Is it going to be an offseason priority with the other team needs?  No.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Don Ho on October 29, 2007, 03:33:41 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 29, 2007, 09:51:44 AM
Gocong, also, is better than you claim.  He's nothing exciting, but he hasn't been a severe liability like Considine.

:yay thank you.  and to even compare gocong to dhani jones makes me sick.  dhani was pathetic.  gocong isn't a liability out there and is getting better every week.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: The BIGSTUD on October 29, 2007, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on October 29, 2007, 06:57:57 AM
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2007, 02:01:55 AM
Takeo and Gaither are playing at a pro bowl level right now. The linebackers are ther strength of the defense right now. Funny saying that after last season.

The d-line has been good, but not on a whole. Bunkley, Patterson, and Cole have been good. Kearse has been garbage, Howard... is he still on the team? Juqua makes a play here or there.
I hope to god you are kidding about Gaither and Spikes, i can never tell. 

I think Gaither is just having an absolutely terrific season. Spikes is having a real good season too. Maybe pro bowl level was a bit far, but you aren't liking what you are seeing? This is the best LB play we've had here in while now. Gaither is playing out of his mind. He is in on every play, he is aggressive. Also Spikes is a LB that can actually wrap up a tackle. The surest tackler we've had here in a while.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:31:37 AM
lol at gaither playing out of his mind...is there a mlb in the nfl with less tackles than gaither?...id venture to guess no...

he has that one int vs the giants and other than that i dont believe he has a single forced fumble or fumble recovery...hes never around the ball as hes to small to play middle linebacker

bunkley and killa are the ones playing out of their minds...i predicted two years ago that killa would lead the nfl in sacks one day and this may be the year...and if bunkley keeps this up he should make the pro bowl...hes been that good
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Feva on October 30, 2007, 08:39:21 AM
Quote from: King Cole on October 29, 2007, 04:35:12 PM
I think Gaither is just having an absolutely terrific season. Spikes is having a real good season too. Maybe pro bowl level was a bit far, but you aren't liking what you are seeing? This is the best LB play we've had here in while now. Gaither is playing out of his mind. He is in on every play, he is aggressive...

... he gave up the TD to Visante farging Shiancoe.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 08:43:05 AM
Maybe he meant to say that Gaither is playing out of position. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:45:47 AM
i just looked up gaithers numbers....28 tackles no forced fumbles or fumble recoverys....and one int

on the plus side he does have more tackles than mark simenou
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Feva on October 30, 2007, 08:53:51 AM
I have more tackles than Mark Simoneau.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 30, 2007, 08:57:50 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on October 30, 2007, 08:53:51 AM
I have more tackles than Mark Simoneau.

You're black, though.  It's an unfair advantage in sports.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 08:58:32 AM
gocong has one more tackle than sim

asians > whites
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
During halftime, Gocong rebuilt the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Magical_Retard on October 30, 2007, 09:14:06 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
During halftime, Gocong rebuilt the I-35 bridge in Minneapolis. 


:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: rjs246 on October 30, 2007, 10:02:39 AM
This thread just got a lot better.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 30, 2007, 10:03:47 AM
Yes, it didn't.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: The BIGSTUD on October 30, 2007, 03:43:10 PM
So tackles is a big key to how a LB is playing? Again, pro bowl was too far, and that play to Shiancoe was not good for Gaither, but he has been plugging the holes well, and has made some real nice plays like that diving goal line tackle a couple weeks ago to prevent the TD. For a 2nd year player, he is playing a lot better than I thought he would. Especially his sideline to sideline pursuit.

Simoneau lead the NFC in tackles in 2003, didn't he? Tackles as a stat can be important, but they also can be misleading.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 30, 2007, 03:48:11 PM
Quote from: King Cole on October 30, 2007, 03:43:10 PM
Simoneau lead the NFC in tackles in 2003, didn't he?

#1, #13... what's the difference?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 03:54:21 PM
of course tackles dont tell the whole story...i only brought up the stats because you clearly dont watch the games so i dont know how else to demonstrate that hes not playing 'out of his mind'
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Rome on October 30, 2007, 04:33:23 PM
Killa was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=14305
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 30, 2007, 04:34:54 PM
his sack after Minnesota recovered the on-side kick was a huge play, i really killed the Viking momentum there
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 04:36:10 PM
he should be named defensive player of the century
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: mussa on October 30, 2007, 04:39:30 PM
Vrabel deserved it more than killa, but hey killa still had a hell of a game and pretty much did switch the momentum with that last sack. KILLA is becoming my favorite eagle without mr. dawkins present.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: hbionic on October 30, 2007, 04:42:00 PM
Considine makes me forget we have Dawkins. If that can make any sense.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: rjs246 on October 30, 2007, 04:44:58 PM
Please stop calling him killa you farging hicks.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 30, 2007, 04:50:09 PM
Quote from: mussa on October 30, 2007, 04:39:30 PM
Vrabel deserved it more than killa, but hey killa still had a hell of a game and pretty much did switch the momentum with that last sack. KILLA is becoming my favorite eagle without mr. dawkins present.

vrabel plays in the afc and killa has been everyones favorite eagle for going on three years now....where you at?

plus vrabel is that uncle that we all got molested by when we were kids
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: rjs246 on October 30, 2007, 05:00:34 PM
farging nerds.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 30, 2007, 05:03:46 PM
I agree with mussa.  Vrabel should have gotten the award for the NFC also.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Munson on October 30, 2007, 05:16:52 PM
That would take a killa performance from someone to win it for both the AFC and NFC.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: rjs246 on October 30, 2007, 05:18:11 PM
I agree with Munson. Lololololz.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 30, 2007, 05:16:52 PM
That would take a killa performance from someone to win it for both the AFC and NFC.

You are so completely unfunny that it's actually becoming funny.  But not really. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Munson on October 30, 2007, 06:59:33 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 30, 2007, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 30, 2007, 05:16:52 PM
That would take a killa performance from someone to win it for both the AFC and NFC.

You are so completely unfunny that it's actually becoming funny.  But not really. 

But I accomplished my goal of annoying one of you douche bags. That's all that matters.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: rjs246 on October 30, 2007, 07:11:31 PM
Hahaha he's so right!
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Munson on October 30, 2007, 08:23:57 PM
YEAH!! :crazy

For the record....


Stallworth-26 catches, 411 yards, 3 TD's
Curtis-32 catches, 582 yards, 4 TD's
Owens-34 catches, 556 yards, 5 TD's
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: rjs246 on October 30, 2007, 10:40:37 PM
You know what? I think you made a really good point there. Seriously. Stallworth, wasn't really what everyone made him out to be. Owens, is obviously fantastic. But Curtis is pretty under appreciated. You know?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 31, 2007, 06:28:36 AM
Curtis has been pretty good this year but the offense has been so inconsistant and therefore, so has his production.  Atleast 30% of Curtis' stat line comes from the Detroit game.  Granted, he and McNabb are only in their first season together but lets not fool ourselves into thinking that Curtis has been putting up numbers all year.   

Stallworth started off slow in NE but over the last few weeks has steadily improved his stats and has become a bigger part of the offense up there.  He's also the #2 reciever up there so he's not going to get as many balls thrown his way, especially playing opposite Randy Moss. 

I like Curtis but I think that if Stallworth were still here, he'd probably have better numbers than Curtis right now and they would be more evenly spread out too. 
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Rome on October 31, 2007, 07:11:51 AM
Stallworth has Moss & Welker as teammates.  Of course he's going to have less catches than Kevin Curtis.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:11:54 AM
curtis is a fine wr hes just not a #1 and thats what he is on the eagles...and simply put hes just not as good as donte stallworth

i dont know whats so hard to understand and why people feel the need to make curtis into something more than he is...they should have signed stallworth AND curtis and all would be fine
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Feva on October 31, 2007, 08:19:42 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:11:54 AM
curtis is a fine wr hes just not a #1 and thats what he is on the eagles...and simply put hes just not as good as donte stallworth

i dont know whats so hard to understand and why people feel the need to make curtis into something more than he is...they should have signed stallworth AND curtis and all would be fine

Now that's just crazy talk.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: rjs246 on October 31, 2007, 08:28:10 AM
All would not be fine, this team would still be about as mediocre as it gets, but at least the WRs would be better.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:35:14 AM
with wr's who can get open they would have beaten gb wash and chi...not only can stallworth get open but hed allow curtis to be going against #2 and 3 corners which would allow him to get open...it would also allow them to stretch the field...all this would mean more points which is all they needed to win those three games

win those three and the eagles are 6-1....not of the belief theyd win the taterskin game?...which is a fair point...then they still are 5-2 and in good shape

you win in the nfl by scoring pts...stallworth (or any other quality wr added to this team) would make a huge difference in that area
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 08:37:40 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:11:54 AM
curtis is a fine wr hes just not a #1 and thats what he is on the eagles...and simply put hes just not as good as donte stallworth

i dont know whats so hard to understand and why people feel the need to make curtis into something more than he is...they should have signed stallworth AND curtis and all would be fine

You are simply not correct.  If you honestly forget the skin color and look at production and skill sets and the amount of time each of them tend to spend in the training room, Curtis is simply every bit as good.  Stallworth is no more a #1 than is Curtis.

The real problem here is that the thinking was that Reggie Brown might take the next step up and be the #1 or at least take a ton of pressure off of Curtis.  Hasn't happened.

The fact is that there are very few "#1" WR's in football, by your definition:
Randy Moss
Terrell Owens
Reggie Wayne
T.J. Houshmandzadeh?
Plaxico Burress?
Larry Fitzgerald?
Roy Williams?

Curtis is a very good player and the least of the Eagles problems.  As rjs said, the team would not be Super Bowl contenders if they had Stallworth instead or even if they had both of them.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:41:36 AM
curtis scares no one....no one is game planning or moving safeties to his side of the field like they did for stallworth last year...you just dont know football if you think kevin curtis is as good as donte stallworth...i dont know what else to say

and if its about color then why is kevin curtis better than reggie brown?

and curtis is very good...a very good 2 or 3...depending on whos across from him
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 08:44:12 AM
Donte is certainly a notch better when he's actually on the field.  It's hilarious that you're not factoring in that he often is not.

So, you're saying Curtis is a better player than Reggie Brown?  You're ready to go on the record with that?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:47:39 AM
yeah hes better than reggie brown...who the hell is reggie brown?

curtis isnt way better or anything but if im forced to pick one i give curtis a slight edge
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 31, 2007, 08:47:46 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 31, 2007, 08:44:12 AM
Donte is certainly a notch better when he's actually on the field.  It's hilarious that you're not factoring in that he often is not.


how many games has he missed this year?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:51:32 AM
in the last 52 games curtis has played exactly three more games than stallworth
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 08:52:59 AM
Technically, he's missed none.  But he was like many games last year for the first 4 weeks... on the field and gimpy from a preseason injury.

You want to take a bet on whether he misses any more time this season?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 08:59:09 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:51:32 AM
in the last 52 games curtis has played exactly three more games than stallworth

The difference is Stallworth is not as crisp a routerunner and is quite useless when he's not healthy and outrunning everyone.  He completely missed 4 games for the Eagles last year and only had 100 yards 3 times.  2 additional times, he went over 70 yards.

#1 receiver?  Hell no.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: SunMo on October 31, 2007, 09:01:39 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 31, 2007, 08:52:59 AM
Technically, he's missed none. 

thanks
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 09:14:28 AM
The difference is Stallworth is not as crisp a routerunner

you sure about this?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 09:15:29 AM
I see what you did there!

But seriously, your assertion that the Eagles would be significantly better off with Stallworth over Curtis is asinine.  If you really want to bitch, how about bitching they didn't get a playmaker on defense like Adalius Thomas?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 09:19:40 AM
actually i said theyd be significantly better with curtis AND stallworth....but why let the truth get in our way
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 09:35:15 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 09:19:40 AM
actually i said theyd be significantly better with curtis AND stallworth....but why let the truth get in our way

Also wrong, but I was talking to your boy Sunny that time.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: phillywin2k5 on October 31, 2007, 02:44:08 PM
Stallworth is on whats basically a  1yr deal with NE, maybe bring him back next year?
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 02:50:49 PM
That has a very high likelihood to happen in oppositeworld.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Father Demon on October 31, 2007, 02:57:16 PM
This isn't the Stallworth/Curtis thread.

It's the Minnesota Vikings thread.



Skol Vikings! Let's win this game
Skol Vikings! Honor your name
Go get that first down
Then get a touchdown
Rock 'em, sock 'em, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT! FIGHT!
Go Vikings, run out the score, you'll hear us yell for more!
V-I-K-I-N-G-S
Skol Vikings, let's go!
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on October 31, 2007, 02:58:32 PM
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Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: methdeez on October 31, 2007, 04:43:28 PM
I watched this games on the Tivos last night for the first time, and let me say this:
The Eagles are not good.
They barely hung on to win against a team playing with Brooks Bollinger!
They are mediocre in every respect.

Here's the gripe I will go public with, since it is the last one of about 50, it is the only one that I can remember.
If we are being careful with Westbrook and limiting his touches, why does he and not Tapeh or Buckhalter get the last three carries when everyone knows it is going to be a run and he gets anialated by like three doods?

I guess I should be happy that they ran the ball and did throw down the field 3 times to end the game.

Seriously though, we easily could have lost to the Vikings.
Dalls is going to win by 30 points.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 04:51:34 PM
If we are being careful with Westbrook and limiting his touches, why does he and not Tapeh or Buckhalter get the last three carries when everyone knows it is going to be a run and he gets anialated by like three doods?


ha...thats actually a very good observation
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Munson on November 01, 2007, 02:40:46 AM
Stallworth's first 7 games with the Eagles (not counting ones he missed due to injury)-27 catches, 527 yards, 3 TD's

Curtis's first 7 with the Eagles-32 catches, 582 yards, 4 TD's


Both were about equally inconsistant. Stallworth's best two games in that 7 game span were against Houston and Washington...Curtis' best two were against Detroit and NYJ.


Meh. I'm with IGY, shoulda signed em both.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: hbionic on November 01, 2007, 03:58:23 AM
Quote from: Father Demon on October 31, 2007, 02:57:16 PM

Skol Vikings! Let's win this game
Skol Vikings! Honor your name
Go get that first down
Then get a touchdown
Rock 'em, sock 'em, FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT! FIGHT!
Go Vikings, run out the score, you'll hear us yell for more!
V-I-K-I-N-G-S
Skol Vikings, let's go!

:-D :-D
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: The BIGSTUD on November 01, 2007, 04:33:49 AM
Curtis and Stallworth are so close in skill level, that it is barely even worth debating. If you replace one with the other, the differences aren't going to be noticeable. If we had Curtis and Stallworth right now, would we be better? Yes. Significantly? No. We would need a receiver like Chad Johnson to make a SIGNIFICANT difference. Stallworth and Curtis makes this receiving corps better, but I don't see it leaps and bounds better, and to me that is what significant is.

Everyone knows the Eagles would not have signed Curtis if Stallworth came back though, so it is moot.

I think right now people are hesitant to declare Curtis either better or as good as Stallworth, because he was a #3 in St Louis and hasn't proven it, and he is white. If Curtis stays on pace, then he will have a way better season in his first year as a full-time starter than Stallworth ever had in his NFL career. Curtis has the tools to be better than Stallworth. Really good hands, fast, good crisp route running. My only worry with him is press coverage. There is absolutely no reason why Curtis can't be better than Stallworth though. The tools are there.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on November 01, 2007, 08:38:46 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 31, 2007, 08:35:14 AM
with wr's who can get open they would have beaten gb wash and chi...not only can stallworth get open but hed allow curtis to be going against #2 and 3 corners which would allow him to get open...it would also allow them to stretch the field...all this would mean more points which is all they needed to win those three games

win those three and the eagles are 6-1....not of the belief theyd win the taterskin game?...which is a fair point...then they still are 5-2 and in good shape

you win in the nfl by scoring pts...stallworth (or any other quality wr added to this team) would make a huge difference in that area

They would have beaten Green Bay if I, knowing the farging rules, was the punt returner. They would have beat Chicago if the defense could have held on to the lead when the Bears had 97 yards to go with less than two minutes to go and no timeouts.

I'm sure better WRs would have helped, but that's not why they lost to those teams
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: ice grillin you on November 01, 2007, 08:52:30 AM
I'm sure better WRs would have helped, but that's not why they lost to those teams

no one ever said it was the reason....but thanks for astutely pointing out the the punt returner issue in the gb game...i hadnt seen that one yet
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Tomahawk on November 01, 2007, 08:58:58 AM
wow, you should pay more attention during the game. I don't know how you could have missed that.
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: Diomedes on November 01, 2007, 06:23:45 PM
he was running errands with me
Title: Re: Minnesota Vikings Post Game Thread
Post by: QB Eagles on November 03, 2007, 09:06:19 AM
Juqua Thomas, Matt McCoy (ha), Quintin Mikell, and EJ Henderson (Vikings) were all fined for rough play.

Fat Len has the details here. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3092821)