Okay, so what happened to this dude? Looked good in camp but nothing so far. Did he get lazy after his premature contract extension? I would have to think teams will be rolling coverage to Curtis since L.J. is out, so he will really be needed against the Giants.
Sal Pal said McNabb kicked him in the nards.
he claims he's been open. let's just hope he doesn't do the freddie mitchell point at watch bout time dance when he makes his first big play.
He had a grand total of two targets against a zesty Lions defense. What gives?
Did he seriously take a GIGANTIC step backwards??
It's obvious McNabb's throw selection is racially-motivated.
Ray Diddy said that the Lions were Rolling coverages over to Reggie all game, even after Curtis was on fire, they kept blanketing Reggie with the saftey :-D
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 25, 2007, 03:18:14 PM
Ray Diddy said that the Lions were Rolling coverages over to Reggie all game, even after Curtis was on fire, they kept blanketing Reggie with the saftey :-D
Racists.
according to jaws after watching the film he said that detroit was rolling their coverage over to reggie and said beat us with curtis....
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 03:19:24 PM
according to jaws after watching the film he said that detroit was rolling their coverage over to reggie and said beat us with curtis....
I guess props are due to Curtis then for being good enough to make them pay for that gameplan.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 03:19:24 PM
according to jaws after watching the film he said that detroit was rolling their coverage over to reggie and said beat us with curtis....
I can't believe all of that. Maybe during part of the first quarter. I find it hard to believe that Reggie Brown garners such respek at this point that a team would be willing to get burned repeatedly by making sure he is taken out of the game.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 03:19:24 PM
according to jaws after watching the film he said that detroit was rolling their coverage over to reggie and said beat us with curtis....
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 23, 2007, 03:00:46 PM
The Lions must have only looked at game footage of Brown from last year and threw their entire defense at him. It's the only thing that can explain Kevin Curtis being open all day.
gawd!
Quote from: PPinDC on September 25, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 03:19:24 PM
according to jaws after watching the film he said that detroit was rolling their coverage over to reggie and said beat us with curtis....
I can't believe all of that. Maybe during part of the first quarter. I find it hard to believe that Reggie Brown garners such respek at this point that a team would be willing to get burned repeatedly by making sure he is taken out of the game.
We scored 8 touchdowns.
I find it hard to believe that you find it hard to believe that they may not have adjusted well on defense.
jaws and diddy spend their weeks in mt laurel watching game film....just sayin
If Jaws is good at anything, it's breaking down game film. I'll believe him.
I didn't know Reggie Brown got so much respect in the NFL. He does need to work on not dropping McNabb's passes though.
Thanks for your insight, genius.
he doesnt get respect...its a combination of detroit having a retarded game plan and them thinking that the eagles had no one else that could hurt them
If there's anything Muson is good at, it's stating the obvious. So when he says something, I'll believe him because chances are someone with actual knowledge and credibility already said it before him.
munson told me that it's Tuesday today...i can't help but agree with him
Not only is it Tuesday, but it's 4:19 PM. Could be 4:20 by the time I post this.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2007, 04:16:04 PM
he doesnt get respect...its a combination of detroit having a retarded game plan and them thinking that the eagles had no one else that could hurt them
Mike Martz luvs him sum Kevin Curtis. Tried hard to get him. I don't doubt they were rolling coverage to Reggie initially, but after the second Curtis touchdown, you would think they would have adjusted it. Marinelli is, after all, a pretty solid defensive coach. My point is that even with an adjustment, after halftime half Curtis wasn't running alone downfield, Reggie was still completely invisible. Maybe he's not 100% healthy...hamstring? Dude is just completely gone.
I dont know if you guys heard but on WIP 2 days ago they were talking about Reggie Brown not getting passes and according to them he called out McNabb the week before after losing the Washington game saying, "I was open...."
You call out the QB, you dont get balls thrown to you...plain and simple. McNabb did give him some courtesy throws when the game didnt matter
i think in the gb and washington game it was a mixture of both mcnabb not being accurate nor confident in his throws and at times the WRs not being open. brown is not as bad as he has looked. i dont know if he was calling mcnabb out but when your constantly being told by the reporters or asked "how come your not open?" you might reply and say "i was open". but this is not freddie mitchell esque.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 26, 2007, 09:03:16 AM
i think in the gb and washington game it was a mixture of both mcnabb not being accurate nor confident in his throws and at times the WRs not being open. brown is not as bad as he has looked. i dont know if he was calling mcnabb out but when your constantly being told by the reporters or asked "how come your not open?" you might reply and say "i was open". but this is not freddie mitchell esque.
I agree. I'm so tired of hearing how the receivers are not getting open. Yes, they are just like any other team. They get one or two steps and the QB has to hit them in stride. Receivers are not going to break their routes to stop and present a fixed target each time. Professional CBs are not going to let receivers run wide open all day.
Reggie usually has good games against the Giants. It really is the only game he consistently shows up for.
ESPN Insider on Reggie Brown:
43. Reggie Brown
Philadelphia Eagles
With the Philadelphia offense using Brian Westbrook as the No. 1 target in the passing game, Brown continues to put up solid numbers on the perimeter, but he will never be outstanding. With the addition of speedster Kevin Curtis, the Eagles refrained from using Brown as a downfield threat as much as they did in previous seasons, but he can stretch a defense. He doesn't strike fear in defenses and doesn't excel in any one area.
Ouch!
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=3309135&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2finsider%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d3309135%26lpos%3dspotlight%26lid%3dtab2pos1
Those are pretty harsh words for the best reciever Reid has ever drafted.
doesnt seem too critical at all to me...it even said he can stretch the field which is something he cant do...in general i think its pretty fair
32 teams in the NFL--2 starting WR's per team = 64 receivers
We have the #36 and #42 ranked receivers--I love everyone!
Only thing Brown stretches are his tube socks when he's putting them on. He is a BUST!! He's not a no.1 reciever on any team in the league. A second string backup came here from the Rams and was the best wr on the team!! What does that say!?!?
The Eagles have two #2's, as I've said all along.
Acutally, they have one no.2, and a no. 3.
And don't even try to say the no. 3 is Curtis.
Reggie Browns numbers are pretty on par for an average #2 WR...he's def a #2, not a #3.
I don't know which is more impressive: Brown's inability to create separation or PhillyCrew's ability to find this thread.
Quote from: Munson on March 25, 2008, 11:17:22 PM
Reggie Browns numbers are pretty on par for an average #2 WR...he's def a #2, not a #3.
Kevin Curtis was on the cusp of having #1 numbers last year. That doesn't mean he's a true #1 WR. I watched the games. Brown was sucking bigtime out there in most of the games. He turned it on a little bit near the end of the season.
^^^^
this is true
someone has to make catches when everyone sucks....id say the eagles are a lot closer to having two # 3's than two number 2's
How many #3's do the Phillies have?
none
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Quote from: QB Eagles on March 26, 2008, 06:10:47 AM
Quote from: Munson on March 25, 2008, 11:17:22 PM
Reggie Browns numbers are pretty on par for an average #2 WR...he's def a #2, not a #3.
Kevin Curtis was on the cusp of having #1 numbers last year. That doesn't mean he's a true #1 WR. I watched the games. Brown was sucking bigtime out there in most of the games. He turned it on a little bit near the end of the season.
I watched the games too. Everyone knows he started off slow and picked up as the year went on. But so did the rest of the offense...it took McNabb getting back into a comfort zone.
Reggie Brown+Kevin Curtis > Kyle Kendrick?
Honestly, it was all about McNabb. He was ineffective with the bum knee, and as he got closer to 100%, he showed that (well, shtein, who'd have thunk it?) he's a pretty damn good quarterback.
A healthy McNabb all season means this team makes the playoffs, for whatever that's worth.
If Reggie Brown were a free agent this year on another team, would the Eagles have picked him up?
No. They would have said he wasn't a significant upgrade over what they already had (Baskett, Avant).
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 26, 2008, 08:34:41 AM
Honestly, it was all about McNabb. He was ineffective with the bum knee, and as he got closer to 100%, he showed that (well, shtein, who'd have thunk it?) he's a pretty damn good quarterback.
Something that seemed to be lost on a lot of people around here last season.
Me included.
That said, he really shouldn't have been playing last year until mid-season.
Can't really argue with you...
he had to play...he had to work through the rough stuff to get where he was at the end of the year.
if you start him in the middle of the year than those games would've been like games 1-4 and he probably would not have ended so strong.
So, last year was a loss from the very beginning. That's great value for you season ticket holder types.
Quote from: SunMo on March 26, 2008, 09:53:09 AM
he had to play...he had to work through the rough stuff to get where he was at the end of the year.
if you start him in the middle of the year than those games would've been like games 1-4 and he probably would not have ended so strong.
Your face is rough stuff.
tell me about it
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 26, 2008, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 26, 2008, 08:34:41 AM
Honestly, it was all about McNabb. He was ineffective with the bum knee, and as he got closer to 100%, he showed that (well, shtein, who'd have thunk it?) he's a pretty damn good quarterback.
Something that seemed to be lost on a lot of people around here last season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 10, 2007, 06:51:52 AM
hes not gonna be right all year...hes not gonna be as bad as today but its gonna take 5-8 games to get him comfortable...as i said last night carson palmer still isnt 100% after his injury
and the people chalking this off to the typical reid opening game hiccup are going to be sorely mistaken...im not ready to go 4-12 but the playoffs are out of the question...reids horrible coaching is one thing but now pair that up with the few years of player aquisition whiffs and you have an older injury prone team that doesnt contain a whole lot of top end talent...and on top of that the one advantage they always had in the division and conference was mcnabb...and now that is gone as well due to the injury
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 13, 2007, 08:15:58 AM
i know what they are doing this year
i know because of mcnabbs injury they have already put up the white flag on 07
i know (or strongly believe) that they are gonna spend a bunch of FA $$ in 08
i know they cant admit that this is what they are doing
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2008, 09:10:23 AM
theres no question the mcnabb injury effected their season big time...maybe you can even argue it prevented them from making the playoffs...
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 05, 2007, 02:55:53 PM
this knee injury is a two year recovery time to get back to 100%...yet for some unexplainable reason andy has mcnabb in the shotgun every other play
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 25, 2008, 09:56:31 AM
Quote from: Cerevant on January 25, 2008, 09:48:36 AM
Oh, and WTF was McNabb and Westbrook being on the field during meaningless games? I wouldn't even let them stand on the sidelines.
i coudlnt disagree more on not wanting mcnabb to play...his injury required him to get as much play as possible and get back to 100% asap
anyone who didnt think the season was over before it began because of mcnabbs injury was deluding themselves
Should we send donations to the Oracle of IGY directly to your home address in Maryland?
a cocker spaniel could have known all this and several dawgs on this board did
holleration
I mean..the fact that you need golf claps, high-fives and a pat on the back for predicting what McNabb would be like is pretty insecure.
If you could journey back and please post all of your predictions that didn't turn out true, Ill give you all the high-fives you need bud...trust me...they are out there. Try being humble...you'll like yourself more
Quote from: reese125 on March 26, 2008, 10:13:28 AM
Try being humble...you'll like yourself more
It's certainly working for you.
god damn right
Quote from: reese125 on March 26, 2008, 10:13:28 AM
I mean..the fact that you need golf claps, high-fives and a pat on the back for predicting what McNabb would be like is pretty insecure.
If you could journey back and please post all of your predictions that didn't turn out true, Ill give you all the high-fives you need bud...trust me...they are out there. Try being humble...you'll like yourself more
oh im very secure...fort knox like
as far as incorrect predicitons ill let you handle that if you can find any
sinorice moss is one
phillies playoffs last year
martin biron was an iffy call tbd
im having trouble with any others
tho im sure they are out there somewhere
oh and i mentioned there was nothing special about knowing mcnabb was done for this year but as feva said many people didnt seem to recognize it...so im not sure why you would come in behind that and whine about it...perhaps you wanna be loved?
IGY...."see, I told you so..?" That was your intention looks like. I dont think I have to get into great detail of what people think about heads that do that..including yourself
I'm not here to doubt your knowledge about some sports, you got it...thats cool...but when you grab your shovel to dig up predictions..its weak brother
It didn't take a crystal ball to know that McNabb was going to have a rough time of it early in the year. I don't recall anyone suggesting otherwise, actually. I do remember people being pissed that Garcia was cut loose, though.
Quote from: reese125 on March 26, 2008, 10:26:37 AM
IGY...."see, I told you so..?" That was your intention looks like. I dont think I have to get into great detail of what people think about heads that do that..including yourself
I'm not here to doubt your knowledge about some sports, you got it...thats cool...but when you grab your shovel to dig up predictions..its weak brother
i can throw 'i told you so's' around with the best of them...but if you think knowing that mcnabb wouldnt be healthy this year is one of them then youre sorely mistaken...plus youre pretending that i care what you think about me
Quote from: Rome on March 26, 2008, 10:29:40 AM
It didn't take a crystal ball to know that McNabb was going to have a rough time of it early in the year. I don't recall anyone suggesting otherwise, actually. I do remember people being pissed that Garcia was cut loose, though.
I'm not feeling it enough to go do a search or anything, but there were PLENTY of people who were ready to ship McNabb out of town on the next thing smoking, and writing him off as done early on last season...
Ah well, ain't no big deal...
my belief is that 95% of fans knew injury was the reason behind his terrible play and only about 50% admitted it while the other 50% of the people used the poor play as a means of ripping someone they didnt like to begin with
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 26, 2008, 11:50:58 AM
the other 50% of the people used the poor play as a means of ripping someone they didnt like to begin with
Racists.
Quote from: EagleFeva on March 26, 2008, 11:08:30 AM
Quote from: Rome on March 26, 2008, 10:29:40 AM
It didn't take a crystal ball to know that McNabb was going to have a rough time of it early in the year. I don't recall anyone suggesting otherwise, actually. I do remember people being pissed that Garcia was cut loose, though.
I'm not feeling it enough to go do a search or anything, but there were PLENTY of people who were ready to ship McNabb out of town on the next thing smoking, and writing him off as done early on last season...
Ah well, ain't no big deal...
Without a doubt. The first half of the season McNabb showed some flashes of being healthy again, but nothing consistant which is probably why people were so quick to write him off......along with the fact that there are plenty of McNabb haters out there.
The big question going into last season wasn't so much if McNabb would be 100% recovered but would he look good enough by the end of the year to keep his job and be the starter for 2008? The answer was obviously yes. The last 3 or 4 games of the year he really looked 3 or 4 years younger. He was slimmer, more agile and faster than we had seen him in quite some time. The weight was the biggest difference imo. If he keeps that weight down it will definitely help his knee by not having to support, run and cut while holding up the extra baggage.
So, have we concluded that "the WRs are fine"?
I think the conclusion is that "Obviously we need to do a better job on that."
However, in all honestly I think that excellent recieevers are as hard to find as excellent QB's.
There are really not that many in the league, and once a team has one they hold on to it for dear life.
What is the last true #1 reciever that left his team before his skills were gone?
PlasticHo?
Coles/Moss swap?
If you don't draft 'em, you usually don't have them.
Also, imagine if we were Chicago fans...
arguably the two best wr's of the last ten years have switched teams in their prime
moss and TO
Cheggie Brownson is going to have a breakout year. Wasn't he rumored trade bait awhile back?
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 26, 2008, 08:01:38 PM
arguably the two best wr's of the last ten years have switched teams in their prime
moss and TO
Both were via trades though and not free agency. Not really sure if those examples would apply.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 27, 2008, 12:22:06 AM
Both were via trades though and not free agency. Not really sure if those examples would apply.
Quote from: methdeez on March 26, 2008, 05:37:48 PM
There are really not that many in the league, and once a team has one they hold on to it for dear life.
What is the last true #1 reciever that left his team before his skills were gone?
PlasticHo?
Coles/Moss swap?
If you don't draft 'em, you usually don't have them.