Nobody cares, but lets do it anyway;
» 8/28/2007 Craig Kobel LB Craig Kobel - Waived/Injured
» 8/27/2007 DE Jerome McDougle, RB Ryan Moats and G Stefan Rodgers - Placed on injured reserve
» 8/27/2007 K E.J. Cochrane, WR Dereck Faulkner, TE Kyle Hunt, WR Jermaine Jamison, S Chris Smith and G Chris White - Released
Bye Jermaine Jamison, you'lle always remind me of Jenna Jamison.
i can't wait to get my vickers jersey.
what the farg am i gonna do a personalized dereck faulkner jersey now?
Jerome effing McDougle.
bust of the decade?
Quote from: Diomedes on August 28, 2007, 06:37:59 PM
Jerome effing McDougle.
bust of the decade?
Up to this point thats hard to argue against. At least Mitchell had one important catch.
He had two memorable ones, the important one (4th and 26), and that scramble/bomb in the blowout against Dallas.
McDougle rates only half as many on the merit of his excellent hit on Eli
the both of them put the Eagles squarely in the running for worst drafting team of the decade
Mitchell doesn't even compare because he was somewhat productive as a late 1st round pick. he wasn't the wideout we all hoped he'd be, but he wasn't a guy that couldn't get on the field.
they traded up to get mcdougle and he couldn't stay healthy and even when he was he couldn't get on the field...not even close that McDougle is the worst draft pick Andy Reid has ever had
Mitchell's a farging clown and his big mouth lit a fire under the Patriots that probably wouldn't have been there if he hadn't opened his sewer. I could never stand his preening, showboating bullshtein act and if he died tomorrow, I'd be the first one to post the good news in the "good riddance" thread.
I actually feel bad for McDougle. He's gotta have the worst luck in the history of time. He's been a colossal bust, alright, but still, a lot of it has to do with injuries & other factors he couldn't control whereas Mitchell not only sucked on the field, he was a cancer in the locker room to boot.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 28, 2007, 09:25:59 PM
Mitchell's a farging clown and his big mouth lit a fire under the Patriots that probably wouldn't have been there if he hadn't opened his sewer.
c'mon...it was the super bowl, he didn't fire them up one bit
They were the freaking Patriots. They didn't need any help from Freddie Bleepin' Mitchell.
exactly
It was all Mitchell's fault.
Shut up.
ha, nice
Mitchell didn't get shot. Points.
Quote from: MDS on August 28, 2007, 10:03:48 PM
Mitchell didn't get shot. Points.
That's because the gunner couldn't get an open look at him.
Mitchell also caught L.J. Smith's dopey fumble for a TD in the playoff game against the Vikings during the run to the Super Bowl.
McDougle makes FredEx look like pick of the decade.
Lito is really the only post-McNabb first round draft pick that I can be unreservedly happy with, based on performance thus far. I like Andrews too, but the guy's got to show that he can play some healthy football. Patterson and Bunkley could still emerge, but I haven't seen it yet. Simon wasn't a bust, but there were a lot of issues there that were far from ideal, as the Colts have come to learn.
I generally hate injury prone players, but Andrews gets the big old free pass from me. The guy is a farging monster. He kills people. And he does it with a smile on his face. I wish nothing but good things on him and that is rare for me.
like, first time ever rare
RJS is becoming a big softy living in Bahston.
Yeah. Actually, I'm not comfortable saying that. I take it back. I hope he eats some AIDS poop.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 28, 2007, 09:12:12 PM
McDougle rates only half as many on the merit of his excellent hit on Eli
As happy as that made me, he made me twice as angry when he kicked that penalty flag last year and arguably cost the Eagles the Tampa Bay game.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 28, 2007, 10:58:56 PM
Yeah. Actually, I'm not comfortable saying that. I take it back. I hope he eats some AIDS poop.
you can't take it back...some kid in china read it and now he thinks you gay, haha
I'm fairly certain he wanted me anyway, so I'll call it even.
i'm going to go ahead and classify our banter as overly awesome tonight
I'll go ahead and agree. And possibly urinate on my dog. But only if she holds very very still.
McDougle had a memorable penalty - maybe cost the Eagles home field against the Saints. I don't think Freddie ever aspired to such heights.
Lito, Killa Cole and Westy have been best picks since McNabb.
lj smith has been pretty decent.
micheal lewis i thought would evolve into a special player but he actually got worse each yr.
Sheldon Brown is worthy of mention....moreso than Lewis.
micheal lewis i thought would evolve into a special player but he actually got worse each yr.
atleast he could tackle
Quote from: mussa on August 29, 2007, 03:14:20 PM
Lito, Killa Cole and Westy have been best picks since McNabb.
A lot of picks have worked out since then, just not a lot of first rounders.
We need to draft solely in the 5th round.
Killa Cole.
Omar Gaither (maybe).
Brent Celek looks pretty good so far.
I have hopes for Gaddis.
We're certainly batting better there than the 1st round, in any event. And they're cheap. Banner loves cheap.
we we we
ha
Quote from: Diomedes on August 29, 2007, 10:14:16 PM
we we we
ha
You and Larry Craig can suck my pole.
And, of course, it's they. farg off.
Herremans what? He was a great pick, and could wind up being a starting tackle, but as it is right now, he's a great guard, he just gets overshadowed by the other excellent guys on the line.
I think this season will prove they made a good pick with Avant, he looks great so far in the preseason.
I think in terms of busthood, McDougle >>> Freddie.
The thing is that the McDougle pick was very much a need pick, and other DE's from that draft (like Michael Haynes) have also busted out. The Freddie pick was much worse in comparison to the other guys still on the board at WR (Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, etc).
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 30, 2007, 12:21:29 PM
The thing is that the McDougle pick was very much a need pick, and other DE's from that draft (like Michael Haynes) have also busted out. The Freddie pick was much worse in comparison to the other guys still on the board at WR (Reggie Wayne, Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, etc).
... Chris Chambers...
Damn... that still hurts every time I see that.
Totally agree, btw.
rumor is that Kearse may be cut, its just speculation since his knee is still giving him problems. I'd rather put him on the PUP, then see how he is 6 weeks from now, then cut him if he's still hurting
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 30, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
rumor is that Kearse may be cut, its just speculation since his knee is still giving him problems. I'd rather put him on the PUP, then see how he is 6 weeks from now, then cut him if he's still hurting
I think since he's played in games, and practiced, it's IR or nothing.
MOVE GOCONG TO DE HOLLA
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 30, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
rumor is that Kearse may be cut, its just speculation since his knee is still giving him problems. I'd rather put him on the PUP, then see how he is 6 weeks from now, then cut him if he's still hurting
Kearse getting cut would make me mildly happy. Never liked him much as an Eagle. On the flip, it doesn't leave them with a great set of DE's, outside of Killa, who has yet to demonstrate he can do it all season.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 30, 2007, 01:03:31 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 30, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
rumor is that Kearse may be cut, its just speculation since his knee is still giving him problems. I'd rather put him on the PUP, then see how he is 6 weeks from now, then cut him if he's still hurting
I think since he's played in games, and practiced, it's IR or nothing.
crap, forgot about that clause
Trade him. And burn Gocong.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 30, 2007, 01:04:46 PM
MOVE GOCONG TO DE HOLLA
he'd probably do better. Hell, Gocong outweighs the Freak by 20lbs out least
I guess if there's a year you can cut Kearse & get away with it from a cap standpoint this would be the year.
I can't believe the Eagles are over 14 million under the cap. Jesus.
It always pays to have a jew handle your money - thats why mds is the Phils gm of the future
DGunn says the Eagles have been shopping Dirk Johnson for a draft pick
for what, a 7th rounder in 2014? is there anyone out there who thinks the Eagles will keep two punters? or won't keep Rocca?
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 30, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
DGunn says the Eagles have been shopping Dirk Johnson for a draft pick
:-D ask for a 2010 6th rounder
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 30, 2007, 07:39:43 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 30, 2007, 07:16:40 PM
DGunn says the Eagles have been shopping Dirk Johnson for a draft pick
:-D ask for a 2010 6th rounder
Cool. We can use it to draft Kolb's replacement.
WTF is up with Dorenbos he gets paid 700k to do ONE THING, ONE THING! And he cant even do that right! He should use his magic to make himself disappear from the roster!
Dump Feely, resign NECK BEARD!
Dump Kearse, use Gocong as a DE and start Bradley, enough with the damn experiments!
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/wireless/story.asp?story_id=13812
QuoteNate Ilaoa (RB)
Jason Davis (FB)
Jeremy Cain (FB/LS)
Jeremy Bloom (WR)
J.J. Outlaw (WR)
Michael Gasperson (WR)
Zac Collie (WR)
Lee Vickers (TE)
Jonathan Palmer (T)
Jasper Harvey (C)
Jacob Hobbs (G)
Pat McCoy (T)
Marques Murrell (DE)
Mauricio Lopez (DT)
Ian Scott (DT)
Akeem Jordan (LB)
Dedrick Roper (LB)
Dustin Fox (CB)
Nick Graham (CB)
Marcus Paschal (S)
Erick Harris (S)
Dirk Johnson (P)
Barksdale made it. Haters can hate but playas gon' play.
Wow. Ian Scott. Very odd.
Bloom is gone, so who is going to be our returner? Ugh, GLew. :boom
Bye Diggler
Awsome
Wonder who gets PS'd. Bloom is a bit of a surprise as I didn't think he was that bad.
Ramsey gets the 4th DT spot...I guess. Sucks because a healthy Scott would have been a solid backup.
Quote from: Quasimoto on August 31, 2007, 01:08:11 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/wireless/story.asp?story_id=13812
QuoteNate Ilaoa (RB)
Jason Davis (FB)
Jeremy Cain (FB/LS)
Jeremy Bloom (WR)
J.J. Outlaw (WR)
Michael Gasperson (WR)
Zac Collie (WR)
Lee Vickers (TE)
Jonathan Palmer (T)
Jasper Harvey (C)
Jacob Hobbs (G)
Pat McCoy (T)
Marques Murrell (DE)
Mauricio Lopez (DT)
Ian Scott (DT)
Akeem Jordan (LB)
Dedrick Roper (LB)
Dustin Fox (CB)
Nick Graham (CB)
Marcus Paschal (S)
Erick Harris (S)
Dirk Johnson (P)
Barksdale made it. Haters can hate but playas gon' play.
Is this official...the homepage has NOTHING!!
It's funny they put the update on the wireless version of the site but the main one says nothing until Saturday.
shoulda waited until the last possible moment tomorrow for Dirk
I'd assume so jroc. You see the link. Says philadelphiaeagles.com
The link is from PE.com - doesn't get much more official than that
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=13815&spadaro=1
not until Saturday
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 31, 2007, 01:14:46 PM
shoulda waited until the last possible moment tomorrow for Dirk
Why? Are you so delusional that you'd think they could get something?
Quote from: jroceagles on August 31, 2007, 01:15:43 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=13815&spadaro=1
not until Saturday
Interesting. I got it from another Iggles board. Figured it was completely legit considering the link. IDK then! :boom
Thug fo life Rashad, thats what I'm talkin bout.
Quote from: jroceagles on August 31, 2007, 01:15:43 PM
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=13815&spadaro=1
not until Saturday
I wonder if they farged up releasing it early by mistake
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 31, 2007, 01:11:17 PM
Wow. Ian Scott. Very odd.
He did nothing. Looks like Jeremy Clark did enough to stick. Good for him.
Roper and Jordan didn't make it......there goes the backups. They have to bring someone in. I just hope it's someone good enough that when Gocong completely flames out he can play.
Somebody is in trouble considering that Spads update was from 1:10pm today, and the wireless thing came out then.
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August 31, 2007 | Last Updated: 8/31/07 1:10 PM ET | Comments (0)
Cuts Chatter: Silence Until Saturday
So now we wait. And speculate. And theorize. And wonder who won't make this initial run at the 53-man roster. The Eagles aren't announcing their cuts until Saturday. We are silent on Friday. Quiet. The NFL deadline is 4 p.m. on Saturday, and the Eagles plan on taking it to the limit before announcing who is going to be part of roster for the first week of the season.
What does it mean for us? Agony, plain and simple.
You know that you can go down the list and make your own cuts and you would probably get 90 to 95 percent of them correct. There are 22 names that have to come off the current 75-man roster. It doesn't take a genius to get most of them now.
But there are some intriguing questions ... did Jeremy Bloom do enough on Thursday night to win a job? Who is the punter? What do the Eagles have planned at cornerback and safety? Will they carry 10 offensive linemen and 10 defensive linemen again? Is there enough depth at linebacker?
And here is one we won't know the answer to for a day, maybe two, possibly three: Are there players the Eagles are bringing to the party after this roster is cut to 53? In other words, are there trades? Are there players off the waiver wire who are coming in?
Patience, patience, patience.
It isn't something that is my strong suit. I want the answers now.
The way of the world is that we have no choice. Enjoy the day. Go for a run. Kick off your holiday weekend the right way. Just don't sit around waiting for the word to come from the Eagles on Friday.
Saturday is the day. The pieces will fall into place then.
Reid's got Reno's mgr at Chickie & Peete's on the phone asking him if he can get a day off to take a physical
Quote from: PPinDC on August 31, 2007, 01:23:29 PM
Roper and Jordan didn't make it......there goes the backups. They have to bring someone in. I just hope it's someone good enough that when Gocong completely flames out he can play.
I liked Jordan's play alot, he needs to get bigger though, he looks like a safety.
Cutting Ian Scott makes absolutely no sense. I don't care if he didn't do anything in the preseason. He was an anchor on the best defense in the league last year. He's young and big and talented and has proven it in real live meaningful games.
And cutting Bloom? What the farg? This farging team...
is William Thomas still available?
Quote from: rjs246 on August 31, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
And cutting Bloom? What the farg? This farging team...
They figured they'd already sold all the pink jerseys they were going to sell.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 31, 2007, 01:32:16 PM
Cutting Ian Scott makes absolutely no sense. I don't care if he didn't do anything in the preseason. He was an anchor on the best defense in the league last year. He's young and big and talented and has proven it in real live meaningful games.
And cutting Bloom? What the farg? This farging team...
:-D at all the people who bought Bloom jerseys
The wireless link now says that the cuts wont be posted until Saturday. :-D Someone definitely is having a bad day.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 31, 2007, 01:44:52 PM
The wireless link now says that the cuts wont be posted until Saturday. :-D Someone definitely is having a bad day.
AR just stopped eating lunch when hearing about the Wireless gaff
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Lht6Odqlbf_geM:http://www.bdxiii.com/divers/download/fonds/SPADS_by_Vil_Coyote.jpg)
QuoteSpad's answer
"We just dummied in names so that when we actually get the REAL list, we don't have to go through and make the list from scratch. These are not the real names. We don't have the names. I am sure I will get in trouble. We publish a chart in the back end of the admin and made it non-active. We had no idea it went live anywhere. It is not factual at all. "
From Ask Dave section
I dont go to the big board but supposedly all of the cut threads over there are deleted.
I'm a moderator over there and haven't logged in for about a month now.
I should probably volunteer my spot to someone that gives a shtein.
:-D
Hilarious. Talk about a major farg up. Is Spads going to get fired for this?
What a poor attempt at a cover up. He should have said someone hacked the site
Wow. Either way (released early, or just a made up list that got published) is way up there on the ifargedupmyjob-o-meter. Journalism at it's best.
Who you calling a journalist?
It will be funny when they release the list tomorrow and it looks exactly like the 'dummy' list.
I don't believe for one second thats a fake list. Dave is going to get fired. And I find it hilarious. :-D
Quote from: Quasimoto on August 31, 2007, 02:33:40 PM
I don't believe for one second thats a fake list. Dave is going to get fired. And I find it hilarious. :-D
I doubt he's fired, definitely reprimanded. It would be funny if the list was released tomorrow with his name on it.
I think they could re-sign Ian Scott after week 1.
If not, stupid move. Clark hasn't been that great and now we have no run-stuffing DT.
Didn't you get the memo? The whole "run-stuffer" thing is a total myth. TOTALLY.
Unless Ian Scott is really that hurt, but I figured the whole reason they sat him out the last two preseason games was so that he could be as healthy as possible for week 1.
Dave was in there competing. He'll be fine.
"so we don't have to go through and make the list from scratch"
lol, typing about 20 names, and their position is a lot to do in a day's work.
every saturday, once a year, dave has to type up a list of who's released before the final roster is made. i call it the perfect storm.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on August 31, 2007, 03:12:44 PM
"so we don't have to go through and make the list from scratch"
lol, typing about 20 names, and their position is a lot to do in a day's work.
every saturday, once a year, dave has to type up a list of who's released before the final roster is made. i call it the perfect storm.
Not just the names but a full description of how they did :-D
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 31, 2007, 02:44:15 PM
Quote from: Quasimoto on August 31, 2007, 02:33:40 PM
I don't believe for one second thats a fake list. Dave is going to get fired. And I find it hilarious. :-D
I doubt he's fired, definitely reprimanded. It would be funny if the list was released tomorrow with his name on it.
Dave's punishment will be to be the full-time baby sitter for Andy's kids.
Quote from: dis12 on August 31, 2007, 04:48:30 PMDave's punishment will be to be the full-time baby sitter for Andy's kids.
Dave would just end up in jail for posting their sentences the day before the judge does.
B+
I can't believe none of you noticed (assuming the released list is accurate).
Bill Sampy is an official Philadelphia Eagle.
That makes me think the list is bogus then because he's been hurt/hasn't done shtein all of TC/preseason basically.
Quote from: Munson on September 01, 2007, 05:53:12 AM
That makes me think the list is bogus then because he's been hurt/hasn't done shtein all of TC/preseason basically.
Munson, you realize he probably is IR'd
Quote
JOHNSON SAYS EAGLES CUT LIST IS RIGHT
On Friday, the Philadelphia Eagles momentarily listed on their official web site a list of roster cuts. The names were taken down, and it was explained that the list was a guesstimate from the team's Internet staff, aimed at making it easier to write up the real list when the names are released.
But one of the guys on the list -- punter Dirk Johnson -- disagrees.
"I would say that list is right," Johnson said, according to the Philadelphia Inquirer.
Johnson also is upset that the decision between him and Sav Rocca wasn't made sooner, since two punters were signed this week by other teams.
Fire Spads!
G. Cobb posted an error message yesterday when he put up the list. Now if you go back to his site it's up there again.
http://gcobb.com
Chris McPherson are you ready for a promotion? :-D
McPherson's a farging clown. The only promotion he's deserving of is to dress up in the idiotic mascot suit on Sundays.
link (http://sportal.com.au/default.aspx/other-sports-news-display/rocca-signed-by-nfls-eagles-34782)
That link takes forever to load, and if I remember correctly back when they signed Rocca in the first place it was a 3 year deal.
You are correct. Both on the link taking forever and Rocca signing a 3 year deal back in January.
http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19474.msg491638;topicseen#msg491638
Spuds told the truth. That list was wrong. Ian Scott made the team, and Barksdale and Gaddis both were cut:
Wide receiver Jeremy Bloom and punter Dirk Johnson were among the 22 cuts the Philadelphia Eagles made on Saturday to get to the league-mandated roster limit of 53.
Here are the other 21 players released: cornerback Rashad Barksdale, fullback Jeremy Cain, wide receiver Zac Collie, linebacker Tank Daniels, fullback Jason Davis, cornerback Dustin Fox, safety C.J. Gaddis, wide receiver Michael Gasperson, safety Erick Harris, center Jasper Harvey, guard Jacob Hobbs, defensive tackle Mauricio Lopez, running back Nate Ilaoa, defensive end Marques Murrell, wide receiver J.J. Outlaw, tackle Jonathan Palmer, linebacker Dedrick Roper, defensive tackle Jeremy Clark, wide receiver Bill Sampy and tight end Lee Vickers.
IGY is going to be crushed.
EDIT: In all honesty cutting Barksdale doesn't make sense. He played well considering where he was picked and how well he played. I doubt he makes it past waivers. I think they made a mistake there. At most he'd have been a good nickel corner.
What business does this team have cutting linebackers regardless of how bad they are?
Jordan made it over Daniels. If you are going strictly by preseason then it was the right move. Tank sucked bad in the preseason.
surprised Daniels was cut
Quote from: Quasimoto on September 01, 2007, 04:30:01 PM
In all honesty cutting Barksdale doesn't make sense. He played well considering where he was picked and how much he played. I doubt he makes it past waivers. I think they made a mistake there. At most he'd have been a good nickel corner.
Agreed. Looks like Nick Graham makes the team. Graham isn't a bad player but I don't see the point of picking Barksdale when you know he's a project and then not trying to develop him.
Also it looks like Paschal made it over Gaddis. Don't get that either. They were relatively the same throughout the preseason and Gaddis has tons more athletic ability than Paschal, while they knew he was a bit raw and still needed work.
Maybe yesterday's list was the right list, but the Eagles changed it to trick the rest of the NFL.
Gold standard thinking right there.
Gaddis and Barksdale are head scratchers. I'm sure Gaddis will make it to the PS for this year, not sure about Barksdale though, I thought he played well enough to make it. Who's returning punts now? They should have worried less about Bloom (unless that toe is a bigger deal than they let on) and work on the farging blocking which sucks again this year.
I'm glad Scott didn't get cut
Mi tew.
they need to get a hold of LB Lemar Marshall from the Skins. He was released last week. Solid player that is an upgrade
Bengals bagged him babe.
missed that one. thought he was still out there.
and save the babe talk for you and Mussa
they needed to give Bloom a shot with a special teams unit that actually blocks someone. he might be able to develop over the course of a season, he at least caught the ball on punt returns securely
I don't think the blocking was the problem. For a guy that was supposed to be fast, he changed direction slower than anyone I can remember we had in here lately. Unless there was a straight-ahead gaping hole in the coverage, the return was over because he couldn't move east to west to save his life. He beat absolutely NO ONE to the outside. Not only did he look slow, but he looked scared. It seemed like he didn't want any part of contact.
Mahe was a more effective returner.
BS. The special teams blocking was horrendous, and I don't understand who the farg they're going to put back there now. GLew is basically the same thing as Bloom....Buckhalter? Westbrook and Lito better not touch the field as a returner unless it's a big situation.
He's not supposed to run east and west, moron. He's (Bloom) supposed to do just what he was doing, run straight up the field. The problem is no one can block for shtein on returns, thanks to Rory "Wedge? What's a wedge?" Segrest. What the hell does this guy coach them to do? He sure as hell doesn't work on blocking.
The blocking has been fine. There are lanes, he just doesn't hit them because he is running in quicksand.
and you do have to be able to move east to west. You have to make guys miss and he can't make guys miss at all. Do you think Devin Hester gets all those returns by just running in a straight line? The guy has to make cuts and burst to the outside. Once you hit that initial hole, you have to be able to bounce it outside if necessary. Bloom can't burst to the outside. He sucks and is slow. He also can't break tackles, which most great returners do.
He looked pretty damn fast before the toe injury slowed him up.
The bottom line is the blocking was terrible on special teams all preseason.
I always hear that blocking is terrible excuse. The blocking to me when I watch it over again looks no different than any other team. You just need a playmaker back there. I don't think Devin Hester is great because he has this amazing blocking. He is great because he is a burner, has great moves, great leg strength, and downfield awareness.
None of our returners have had that lately.
so, it looks like the return game will be a disaster...as will the field goal unit since the longsnapper and holder both blow.
nice! :yay
Billy Sampy mania comes to an end. Damnit.
Quote from: King Cole on September 01, 2007, 07:08:43 PM
I always hear that blocking is terrible excuse. The blocking to me when I watch it over again looks no different than any other team. You just need a playmaker back there. I don't think Devin Hester is great because he has this amazing blocking. He is great because he is a burner, has great moves, great leg strength, and downfield awareness.
None of our returners have had that lately.
You're right. When Brian Mitchell was with the Eagles it was his blazing speed and extreme shiftiness that made the Eagles return game one of the best in the league. Definitely didn't have anything to do with blocking in front of him. Nah, couldn't be. Because if there's one thing I think of when I think about Brian Mitchell, it's his cheetah-like speed.
Quote from: King Cole on September 01, 2007, 07:08:43 PM
I always hear that blocking is terrible excuse. The blocking to me when I watch it over again looks no different than any other team. You just need a playmaker back there. I don't think Devin Hester is great because he has this amazing blocking. He is great because he is a burner, has great moves, great leg strength, and downfield awareness.
None of our returners have had that lately.
It's not an excuse. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you don't think the blocking hasn't been terrible. Here's a clue for you, Hester wouldn't have had a single return if he didn't get good blocking to break through the first line of attackers. On Westbrook's punt returns he got good blocking to spring him... you know what, I'm going to stop wasting my time.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 01, 2007, 08:30:44 PM
You obviously have no idea what you're talking about...
Now you're catching on.
the one thing about Brian Mitchell that not one Eagle returner has (except Westbrook when hes barely back there), was his ability to shed a tackle
Bloom nor Mahe, nor Glew have that trait.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 01, 2007, 08:30:44 PM
Quote from: King Cole on September 01, 2007, 07:08:43 PM
I always hear that blocking is terrible excuse. The blocking to me when I watch it over again looks no different than any other team. You just need a playmaker back there. I don't think Devin Hester is great because he has this amazing blocking. He is great because he is a burner, has great moves, great leg strength, and downfield awareness.
None of our returners have had that lately.
It's not an excuse. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about if you don't think the blocking hasn't been terrible. Here's a clue for you, Hester wouldn't have had a single return if he didn't get good blocking to break through the first line of attackers. On Westbrook's punt returns he got good blocking to spring him... you know what, I'm going to stop wasting my time.
Weren't you the guy who didn't even watch most of the preseason games?
Anyway, regardless of whether you did or didn't, go watch them again. I've watched all of them over to check on the returning, and while the blocking wasn't all-world, it was good enough. The fault was mainly on the shoulders if Bloom. He danced around and didn't try to hit the holes(yes they were there... go watch again) and when he actually did decide to hit a hole once in a while, he either went down on the first light touch from a coverage guy or tried to bounce outside and looked like he was running in mud. Other times he tried to make the first man miss and didn't have the moves or quickness to even make a move and ended up just falling down.
He has no burst ability, no leg strength, and no field vision. Please don't use some stupid example like Brian Mitchell. He was an very good returner on every team he has been on up until the Giants. Return men make plays... period. I'm sure he was on some teams where the blocking wasn't the best, but made them look good with his great strength and field vision, and decisiveness.
Go watch some highlight reels of Hester. Often the blocking sucks, but he has to you know... use his ability to make something out of nothing and make a guy or two miss. Something Bloom can't do. Learn a farging thing about returns before you make a moronic post. If you honestly think that Hester wouldn't have had a return without great blocking, then head over to youtube and look up a couple videos, bib. The proof is in the pudding.
Bloom isn't special. Period. That's all you need to write, not 3 farging paragraphs.
Watch the highlights tonight of the Cal/Tenn game and check out DeSean Jackson's return. See, he had to make 3 or 4 guys miss and break a couple of tackles to take a punt to the house. It had nothing to do with the farging blocking, it was all Jackson. If the blocking was that great then there wouldn't have been all those guys in his face to begin with.
I'm watching the game and I saw it, pretty sure I posted about it in the college thread. Comparing anyone to DeSean is farging retarded, except Reggie Bush. Absolutely no one is on his level.
1. STs blocking eats a load of ass. It doesn't matter who they put back there because THEY CANNOT BLOCK.
2. Graham outplayed Barksdale from day one. Rashad is really raw and is PS material.
3. Gaddis' head was swimming early on. He started to get it and he can drop the hammer, but Paschal outplayed him too.
andy reid is a joke as a PP guy
Quote from: Dillen on September 01, 2007, 09:24:16 PM
I'm watching the game and I saw it, pretty sure I posted about it in the college thread. Comparing anyone to DeSean is farging retarded, except Reggie Bush. Absolutely no one is on his level.
Good thing I didn't compare anyone to DeSean Jackson then.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2007, 09:25:20 PM
1. STs blocking eats a load of ass. It doesn't matter who they put back there because THEY CANNOT BLOCK.
According to our resident Einstein blockers are irrelevant. They should just get Olympic sprinters and put them out there in return situations by themselves because all they need to do is run really fast sideways across the field. ::)
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said they were irrelevant. I just said the reason why the returning has been bad was mainly Bloom being garbage. Put a quality return man on this team right now and the return game will look better overnight without the blocking scheme changing a bit.
Quote from: King Cole on September 01, 2007, 09:36:47 PM
Good thing I didn't compare anyone to DeSean Jackson then.
QuoteThat's what Bloom can't do.
Nice job editing that part out of your post, jackass.
Don't know what you are talking about. Regardless, it was more/less me giving an example of how returners don't need great blocking to be effective.
I am also glad that Ian Scott was kept. Thanks for your support.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 01, 2007, 09:28:31 PM
andy reid is a joke as a PP guy
Why? Because he cut your precious Barksdale?
because they have a grand total of 6 linebackers on their team and a rookie is the first backup at middle linebacker and strong side linebacker
Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2007, 12:16:16 PM
because they have a grand total of 6 linebackers on their team and a rookie is the first backup at middle linebacker and strong side linebacker
Stewart Bradley's not your standard rookie, though. He's a weird-looking white guy.
even better/worse?
I'm going to go with... different.
i'm going to go with....AIDS
Quote from: SunMo on September 02, 2007, 01:49:15 PM
i'm going to go with....AIDS
That's the only way you can go once you get infected, as you know from experience.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 01, 2007, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2007, 09:25:20 PM
1. STs blocking eats a load of ass. It doesn't matter who they put back there because THEY CANNOT BLOCK.
According to our resident Einstein blockers are irrelevant. They should just get Olympic sprinters and put them out there in return situations by themselves because all they need to do is run really fast sideways across the field. ::)
that just highlights the teams lack of effort in trying to address this issue. every year we see how ST can really help a team out and the eagles seemingly do not care enough. lets see how JR works out now...i want him to return Punts and Kickoffs.
QuoteGaddis and Barksdale are head scratchers. I'm sure Gaddis will make it to the PS for this year, not sure about Barksdale though, I thought he played well enough to make it. Who's returning punts now? They should have worried less about Bloom (unless that toe is a bigger deal than they let on) and work on the farging blocking which sucks again this year.
you know...they will be PS players maybe and prolly starters next yr....considering how we just promote these horrible picks even if they can not play. wasnt gaddis supposed to be dawkins apprentice?
Per Spadaro, six guys have signed to the practice squad thus far:
QuoteDT Jeremy Clark
FB Jason Davis
WR Michael Gasperson
DE Marques Murrell
WR Bill Sampy
TE Lee Vickers
Looks about right
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 03, 2007, 10:20:51 AM
Per Spadaro, six guys have signed to the practice squad thus far:
QuoteDT Jeremy Clark
FB Jason Davis
WR Michael Gasperson
DE Marques Murrell
WR Bill Sampy
TE Lee Vickers
Great...the scabs other teams didn't want. Yay!
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 03, 2007, 10:20:51 AM
Per Spadaro, six guys have signed to the practice squad thus far:
QuoteDT Jeremy Clark
FB Jason Davis
WR Michael Gasperson
DE Marques Murrell
WR Bill Sampy
TE Lee Vickers
Sampy? Hasn't he been hurt since the
start of training camp? This team is way too kind to hurt players. McDougal should've been cut after last year for thievery if nothing else. I've never seen someone make so much money for doing jack shtein. Guy should write a book.
Right - cut a guy who got injured on the field. That wouldn't upset the rest of the players on the team not to mention the NFLPA. . . not at all.
the front seven on this team is an abomination....how did it get to this point?
they had to cut him to get him on the practice squad
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 03, 2007, 11:27:06 AM
the front seven on this team is an abomination....how did it get to this point?
Careful planning?
spikes may be it this year....then again history tells us he wont be
seriously when was the last time they aquired a big time playmaker on the DL or at LB...they miss on EVERYONE
[Reid]Ahem, the defensive front seven is fine.[/Reid]
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on September 03, 2007, 11:23:45 AM
Right - cut a guy who got injured on the field. That wouldn't upset the rest of the players on the team not to mention the NFLPA. . . not at all.
The NFLPA's gonna get their panties in a twist over a guy that never played a game in the regular season being cut? Are you farging joking? Or do you mean McDougal? Hell he's been hurt so much I don't even remember what his issue was prior to this year... what was he hurt for this past time?
Dude, the NFLPA is defending Michael Vick against the Falcons trying to get some of their money back for him being a lowlife scumbag criminal.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 03, 2007, 05:19:16 PM
Dude, the NFLPA is defending Michael Vick against the Falcons trying to get some of their money back for him being a lowlife scumbag criminal.
Yeah, but weren't they also getting shtein for not backing him at all when the charges first came out? They're playing catch up at this point.
anyone know if at any media sessions since it happened if spadaro has asked andy reid how a bogus cut list could get out?
He went on WIP like a half an hour after it happened to explain. Didn't you hear it?