The Reid-run Eagles have a long history of dumping a not-ready-for-playing-time rookie onto IR so as to avoid exposing him to the practice squad but also keep him "in the fold". Last year, this was done with Chris Gocong and Jeremy Bloom.
Who are the leading candidates this year? I'm going to go with both of the 3rd round picks - Bradley and Hunt - mostly because the press and fans actually expect these guys to get on the field and produce this year. Also, Bradley's got a nice career full of injuries, and IR'ing Hunt would give the coaches an excuse to keep riding Buck as long as possible in the backup role.
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 22, 2007, 11:48:20 AM
Who are the leading candidates this year? I'm going to go with both of the 3rd round picks - Bradley and Hunt - mostly because the press and fans actually expect these guys to get on the field and produce this year.
Isnt that the exact opposite of why they did it last year? Because Gocong was changing positions and Bloom was out of football for a while.
I'm actually looking forward to seeing Hunt play this season. Know nothing about him but his mini-highlight video game me an erection. I hope you are dead. Wrong.
Reid likes to change things up and see how differently to throw guys in the mix and compete and whatnot.
I'm not sold that Hunt will even see a snap this first year. You just never know
if hunt and bradley get IR'ed this year that would be two years in a row where the eagles top four picks either didnt or couldnt play
No hope for Abiamiri?
im not especially high on him...but i have hope
i just dont think he gets any real run THIS year
OU on Abiamiri sacks this year... 16.5?
I would think that a guy like Barksdale would be a prime candidate.
Celek - do they really need 3 TEs?
Barksdale - project player, easy candidate
Ilaoa - no room unless he impresses the shtein out of the coaching staff
Sleeper - Kolb
Barksdale was the first person I thought of. Gaddis was the second.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 22, 2007, 02:28:41 PM
Barksdale was the first person I thought of. Gaddis was the second.
Not Gaddis, then they would only have 3 guys at safety, unless I'm forgetting someone.
are players on IR allowed to practice
i didnt think they were allowed and that would eliminate the advantage of stashing a young player who nees to rpactice and learn
Quote from: Dillen on May 22, 2007, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on May 22, 2007, 02:28:41 PM
Barksdale was the first person I thought of. Gaddis was the second.
Not Gaddis, then they would only have 3 guys at safety, unless I'm forgetting someone.
That's right. I forgot about that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 22, 2007, 02:32:06 PM
are players on IR allowed to practice
i didnt think they were allowed and that would eliminate the advantage of stashing a young player who nees to rpactice and learn
it does hurt in the fact that they cannot learn the physical part of the game, but they are allowed to learn the playbook, scheme, breakdown video etc. Not saying that makes up for anything, but all isnt lost on IR for a rookie.
but do you want them learning on the field and off or just off
my question is why would you ever stash a young promising player on IR...especially a player you just drafted
Quote from: mussa on May 22, 2007, 12:19:29 PM
I'm not sold that Hunt will even see a snap this first year. You just never know
I'm not sold that we'll call a single run play this year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 22, 2007, 03:37:59 PM
but do you want them learning on the field and off or just off
my question is why would you ever stash a young promising player on IR...especially a player you just drafted
To let him develop whilst not using a roster spot for him, and not exposing him to be picked up from the PS.
Promising does not mean need to use now.
Or was that rhetorical and you know the reasons, but just don;'t agree with them?
i dont agree with them
a player is not developing if hes not on the field
Agreed. They'll supposedly have the mental side down, but there's much more to football than just that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 22, 2007, 07:16:14 PM
i dont agree with them
a player is not developing if hes not on the field
Wrong. It's not like these guys have never played football before. They know how to hit and be hit, they're some of the top athletes in the world. I think it's safe to say that the top reason why a lot of rookies are busts is because they don't spend enough time learing the playbook/are too stupid to. A year on IR for the "lesser" athletes, AKA the guys who are drafted in the lower rounds, lets them help make up a little bit for their "lesser" talents and athletics by (hopefully) studying the playbook and knowing exactly where they're supposed to be and exactly what they're supposed to be doing when they're able to hit the practice field next year. Not to mention it gives them more time to hit the weight room and not have to worry about thier body getting beat up any other way.
Adjusting to the speed on an NFL level is an issue, yes, but part of what helps them adjust to the speed is being able to know exactly where they're supposed to be/who they're supposed to cover/who they're supposed to block without having to hestiate for that .1 second to think in mid-play, which is enough time for them to get out of posistion/miss the block/run the wrong route. And you're going to say "they shouldn't have to think about it anyway", but lets face it, athletes are as dumb as a sack of bricks these days.
And it's not like they're just sittin around getting fat and out of shape, they can still lift and run. Just can't practice with the team.
Quote from: Munson on May 23, 2007, 04:25:48 PM
Wrong. It's not like these guys have never played football before. They know how to hit and be hit, they're some of the top athletes in the world. I think it's safe to say that the top reason why a lot of rookies are busts is because they don't spend enough time learing the playbook/are too stupid to. A year on IR for the "lesser" athletes, AKA the guys who are drafted in the lower rounds, lets them help make up a little bit for their "lesser" talents and athletics by (hopefully) studying the playbook and knowing exactly where they're supposed to be and exactly what they're supposed to be doing when they're able to hit the practice field next year. Not to mention it gives them more time to hit the weight room and not have to worry about thier body getting beat up any other way.
Adjusting to the speed on an NFL level is an issue, yes, but part of what helps them adjust to the speed is being able to know exactly where they're supposed to be/who they're supposed to cover/who they're supposed to block without having to hestiate for that .1 second to think in mid-play, which is enough time for them to get out of posistion/miss the block/run the wrong route. And you're going to say "they shouldn't have to think about it anyway", but lets face it, athletes are as dumb as a sack of bricks these days.
And it's not like they're just sittin around getting fat and out of shape, they can still lift and run. Just can't practice with the team.
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