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seems like forever ago and it seems like yesterday. For all of the horrors it wrought, I loved that place.
I'll never forget my first game there in 96. It may have only been 11 years ago...but the first of many great days at The Vet! I was so pissed about there being a blackout that i drove down from Reading and just bought a scalped ticket in the 500 level. I was addicted to live football games after that.
Quote from: Banner's Cabana Boy on April 17, 2007, 12:40:08 AM
I was addicted to live, in-person after that.
After my first Vet game as an adult, I went to the Fantasy Showbar in Mount Ephraim 'cause you could get in for free with the ticket stub. I too was addicted to live, in-person after that. :paranoid
For some reason I always felt the need to check my cornhole when I went in there.
How could those fargs be cheering. That was a sad moment. The vet was truly one of sports 7 wonders.
R.I.P.
for real why woud you cheer that...id give anything to have it back
I miss the advantage the turf gave the Eagles and that's about it.
I don't miss the lousy seats, (even mine in 302 were zesty) the crappy food, the watered down piss warm beer, the filthy rest rooms and the smell of puke everywhere.
I understand the nostalgic impulses here and I share them occasionally but what we have now is 100 times better in terms of stadiums. That's my opinion, anyway.
Here's a good thread from back when it went down for our newer members to look through (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=10019.0)
I understand the nostalgic impulses here and I share them occasionally but what we have now is 100 times better in terms of stadiums.
no way....i guess if you go to football games for the food the linc might be better...
the only thing better about the linc is shorter and faster bathroom lines (at least where i sit)
now if youre talking about the bank then i agree its a million times better than the vet...but for football its not even close
This is how I felt back then, IGY:
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2004, 02:17:38 PM »
I attended the inaugural Phillies game at the Vet with my Dad in 1971 & the 2nd-to-last Phillies game with my daughter in 2003. In between those two dates, I saw hundreds of Phillies games, countless Eagles games, and several concerts. At one time, we all thought the Vet was the most beautiful stadium in the world. Sadly, it became run-down & shabby towards the end. Although jack-off Jeff Lurie once proclaimed the place a "dump" it was still our dump, and I, for one, am gonna miss seeing it when I drive westbound over the Walt Whitman Bridge from Jersey.
RIP, old friend.
Like I said, I still feel nostalgic about it because of all the memories I have from the place. I guess I'm the only one here who absolutely loves The Linc and The Bank. I know I love my seats at The Linc better than the ones at the Vet. The "stadium experience" to me is no different in terms of the fans because I'm still surrounded by people who love the Eagles as much as I do.
Anything that increases the number of snooty, wine-sipping douchebags at a football game is bad. Therefore No Vet = Bad.
RJS is on point, i loved the feeling at games back in the old Vet. It was almost intoxicating. Now you get yelled at to shutup if your cheering or berating opposing players. The vet had that Gritty feeling that i think the true fans enjoyed.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 17, 2007, 09:10:21 AM
RJS is on point, i loved the feeling at games back in the old Vet. It was almost intoxicating. Now you get yelled at to shutup if your cheering or berating opposing players. The vet had that Gritty feeling that i think the true fans enjoyed.
Eh, there were still people there that yelled at you for standing and cheering in the lower bowl of the Vet.
RJS is on point, i loved the feeling at games back in the old Vet. It was almost intoxicating. Now you get yelled at to shutup if your cheering or berating opposing players. The vet had that Gritty feeling that i think the true fans enjoyed.
yep...the atmosphere is sterile at the linc...the vet kept it gutter the way it should be for football...i know what romey is saying about nostalgia but that doesnt apply here imo...since day one at the linc a lot of people wanted the vet back...nostalgia takes place way down the road...this is about the actual real life atmosphere and experience at the game and the linc falls way short of the vet in that department
LOL - I guess I am in the minority. :-D
I don't go to as many games as the rest of you but every game I've been to at the Linc has been enjoyable for me. I've hated the losses, obviously, but the fans seem the same to me especially where I sit. There's none of the hoity-toity crap going on that some of you are talking about. Maybe it's because a lot of 700 level fans moved downstairs when the SBL options became available but in all honesty, I really don't see a difference where I am.
Eh - it could be that I'm usually shtein-faced through the first half but I love it at the Linc.
I feel the same way about the Wachovia Center vs. the Spectrum for Flyers games. I LOVED going to the Spectrum for FLyers games. It was gritty, ghetto and awesome. It WAS how Flyers hockey was and the Wachovia Center took a lot of that away from the team.
I feel the same way about the Wachovia Center vs. the Spectrum for Flyers games. I LOVED going to the Spectrum for FLyers games. It was gritty, ghetto and awesome. It WAS how Flyers hockey was and the Wachovia Center took a lot of that away from the team.
exactly
and the wachovia and linc dont suck...dont get me wrong...they just dont compare to their predecessors
I'll contradict myself here and agree with you guys about the Spectrum. Nothing compared to that place in terms of intensity, especially during Flyers games. I'd get chills just walking into the place back then.
Not to threadjack here or anything, but was anyone else at Game 6 of the Finals vs the Oilers in 87?
My ears took weeks to get back to normal.
i was there...jj....loudest ive ever heard any arena/stadium...only chicago stadium came close
The only thing I like about the Linc over the Vet is the bathrooms. The Vet bathrooms may have been worse than a 3rd world country prison. As far as the game experience itself I really dont enjoy the Linc as much. I guess my section is not as good fan wise as yours Rome. I have been to most of the games at the Linc since it opened and for many of the games the fans in my section dont even stand up and cheer. In fact, I have given up even yelling at them anymore for being douche bags because it is a waste of energy.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on April 17, 2007, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 17, 2007, 09:10:21 AM
RJS is on point, i loved the feeling at games back in the old Vet. It was almost intoxicating. Now you get yelled at to shutup if your cheering or berating opposing players. The vet had that Gritty feeling that i think the true fans enjoyed.
Eh, there were still people there that yelled at you for standing and cheering in the lower bowl of the Vet.
Thats precisely why i always went to the 700 level. I didnt even go to an eagles game till i was 18. After the first one in 99, i went to 4 more games that year alone.
Unfortunately, no. I watched that game at Kix Lounge in Sea Isle. There were 250 people watching the game on the old projection screen.
When J.J. Daigneault scored the entire bar erupted. Never heard anything quite like that before or since.
Quote from: MURP on April 17, 2007, 10:14:36 AM
The only thing I like about the Linc over the Vet is the bathrooms. The Vet bathrooms may have been worse than a 3rd world country prison. As far as the game experience itself I really dont enjoy the Linc as much. I guess my section is not as good fan wise as yours Rome. I have been to most of the games at the Linc since it opened and for many of the games the fans in my section dont even stand up and cheer. In fact, I have given up even yelling at them anymore for being douche bags because it is a waste of energy.
That's a real shame. I can only imagine the reaction at the Vet if someone pulled that nonsense.
One of my favorite bathroom memories of the Vet was the last regular season game against Washington in 2002 or 2003. I was waiting in line for what i thought was a urinal, by the time i get to the front of the line to go, i realize everyone was peeing into an airduct that someone had unscrewed. You could see rats moving around in the hole. The guy who was in front of me said, its the last home game so who cares. He had forgotten that we had playoffs and an entire phils season left :-D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Stadium)
Quote from: MURP on April 17, 2007, 10:14:36 AM
The only thing I like about the Linc over the Vet is the bathrooms. The Vet bathrooms may have been worse than a 3rd world country prison. As far as the game experience itself I really dont enjoy the Linc as much. I guess my section is not as good fan wise as yours Rome. I have been to most of the games at the Linc since it opened and for many of the games the fans in my section dont even stand up and cheer. In fact, I have given up even yelling at them anymore for being douche bags because it is a waste of energy.
Only way it could have been nastier at the vet is if they set up the bathrooms like they do in UDel's football stadium, were you stand on a concrete slab and piss on the wall.
Speaking of pissing against the wall, I, along with about 50 other drunks, was pictured in the Inquirer in the late '80s doing exactly that along one of the side streets off of Pattison.
The cops just laughed at us. Today, they'd lock your ass up for that kind of shtein.
Quote from: paco on April 17, 2007, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: MURP on April 17, 2007, 10:14:36 AM
The only thing I like about the Linc over the Vet is the bathrooms. The Vet bathrooms may have been worse than a 3rd world country prison. As far as the game experience itself I really dont enjoy the Linc as much. I guess my section is not as good fan wise as yours Rome. I have been to most of the games at the Linc since it opened and for many of the games the fans in my section dont even stand up and cheer. In fact, I have given up even yelling at them anymore for being douche bags because it is a waste of energy.
Only way it could have been nastier at the vet is if they set up the bathrooms like they do in UDel's football stadium, were you stand on a concrete slab and piss on the wall.
UD's yellow walls are awsome. Going to Dover Downs though, you pee into a Trough(sp?)
Man, when I think about the great football I saw played at the Vet, and the great players, I know I'll never see anything like it again. Reggie White, Seth Joyner, Randall Cunningham, Mike Quick, Ron Jaworski, Keith Jackson, Harold Carmichael, Wilbert Montgomery, Keith Byars, Andre Waters, Clyde Simmons, Jerome Brown, Jody Schultz.......................Lawrence Taylor, Phil Simms, Dave Meggett, Art Monk, Charlie Joyner, Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm, John Riggens, Dexter Manley, Tony Dorsett, Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Randy White...............and a whole buch more I can't remember.
The place was a sewer until you walked up that tunnel to the field, then it was magic. I have memories from the Vet that I hope stay with me until the day I die. One is a 99 yard TD pass in overtime from Jaws to Quick against the Falcons for the game winner. Good God we got drunk that night!! :yay :yay :yay :yay
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on April 17, 2007, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: paco on April 17, 2007, 01:40:20 PM
Quote from: MURP on April 17, 2007, 10:14:36 AM
The only thing I like about the Linc over the Vet is the bathrooms. The Vet bathrooms may have been worse than a 3rd world country prison. As far as the game experience itself I really dont enjoy the Linc as much. I guess my section is not as good fan wise as yours Rome. I have been to most of the games at the Linc since it opened and for many of the games the fans in my section dont even stand up and cheer. In fact, I have given up even yelling at them anymore for being douche bags because it is a waste of energy.
Only way it could have been nastier at the vet is if they set up the bathrooms like they do in UDel's football stadium, were you stand on a concrete slab and piss on the wall.
UD's yellow walls are awsome. Going to Dover Downs though, you pee into a Trough(sp?)
Didn't the vet have thoes back in the mid 80's? I could have sworn I pissed in one when my grandfather took me to my first phillies game back then.
That was a sink.
You guys remember the extra urinal they put in for the bathrooms on the upper level? You know, the one they crammed into the corner so that you had to literally bend down on one knee to piss in because of the slope of the concrete section above your head?
Maybe that's what Paco is referring to?
:-D
that spot was ridiculously hard to angle yourself
the thing ill always remember about the vet bathrooms is how insanely hot it was in there for the really cold games...i never wanted to leave
They were like Sauna's. Another thing is how crappily they cleared snow at the vet. Ice was still everywhere, and i would fall an average of 2 times a game on the 700 level steps.
I remember all the South Philly trash that was always there. Now they stay in the parking lot because they're too poor to buy tickets.
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
the thing ill always remember about the vet bathrooms is how insanely hot it was in there for the really cold games...i never wanted to leave
True talk.
Nothing else in that place worked but the heaters in the bathroom were always blazing. It could be 4 degrees out yet if you spent more than five minutes in the toilet, you'd come out sweating your balls off.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on April 18, 2007, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on April 18, 2007, 09:01:24 AM
the thing ill always remember about the vet bathrooms is how insanely hot it was in there for the really cold games...i never wanted to leave
True talk.
Nothing else in that place worked but the heaters in the bathroom were always blazing. It could be 4 degrees out yet if you spent more than five minutes in the toilet, you'd come out sweating your balls off.
Actually if you spent more than five minutes in the toilet, you would have some drunk 300lb neanderthal pissing down your back.
I think the Linc will eventually get more rough. I still hold out hope. I think the Linc is so prissy because of the atmosphere. The team is popular because they win so often in the regular season. The fair-weather fans won't give a shtein about the team once they aren't in the playoffs every season. Once they start posting some 7-9, and 6-10 seasons, it'll start to get back to the way it was.
I remember going to my first game against the taterskins (who won) in the Vet with my uncle, who always had season tickets, but stopped when the opened the Linc, teaching me how to properly taunt players and opposing fans. In the parking lot after the game as we were waiting in line to get out of the lot, I remember some taterskins fan talking shtein, and get beer, food and a trash can thrown at him.
The Linc will never have the same intimidating stature that The Vet did but given time, I'm sure it will become less prissy. It's like a new baseball glove....just needs to be broken in.
PPinDC is right. A couple of losing seasons and the fans will harden up. Until then, it's fargwad central.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 18, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
PPinDC is right. A couple of losing seasons and the fans will harden up. Until then, it's fargwad central.
im not sure that will be the case, i think you will see more empty seats then anything. in my section 227 you barely see the same people behind you or in front of you every week.
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on April 19, 2007, 10:43:20 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on April 18, 2007, 08:44:03 PM
PPinDC is right. A couple of losing seasons and the fans will harden up. Until then, it's fargwad central.
im not sure that will be the case, i think you will see more empty seats then anything. in my section 227 you barely see the same people behind you or in front of you every week.
Really? I see that in the preseason in our section but not in the regular season.
Section 111 where my seats are we have the same issue. Different people in front of us and behind us every friggin week. Ususally the people behind us are the types that say "can you please sit down" to which the 15-20 regulars we have respond "farg you". Its quite the scene.
I have to admit I was moved as we headed to CBP for the first time on Saturday afternoon and walked past the parking lot where The Vet once stood. Made sure my wife got tons of pictures. She just didn't understand why I wanted pix of a parking lot. It was great until I saw the plaque reminding me of the 2002 NFCG.
CPB is a great park to watch a game and I think that for baseball, it's 100x better than the Vet ever was. The Vet was a football stadium that was used for baseball during the offseason. I'll never shed a tear about never being able to watch the Phillies play in the Vet again but I will always cherish the memories I have of watching the Eagles there.
I said it then, I'll say it now. But there were more zesty memories at the vet than good ones. I wont forget either one...but i shed no tear for the vet.
Quote from: Wingspan on April 19, 2007, 07:49:07 PM
I said it then, I'll say it now. But there were more zesty memories at the vet than good ones. I wont forget either one...but i shed no tear for the vet.
Same can about basically every stadium the Eagles and Phils ever played in, or currently play in, dookie.
I think the big thing with the Vet vs the Linc is that the Vet truly was "our house." It wasn't owned by a giant corporation and we were pretty much free to do what we wanted there. We could hang signs where ever we wanted and could pretty much go to the bathroom where ever we wanted as well. We could be drunk and obnoxious and nobody cared.
In the few times I've been to the Linc now (4 or 5 total) I never really got the feeling that I was walking on home turf. Maybe it's just because I'm still generally unfamiliar with the layout and everything but to me, it just felt different. At the Vet, we were like home owners. At the Linc, we're more like tenants. JMO.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2007, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on April 19, 2007, 07:49:07 PM
I said it then, I'll say it now. But there were more zesty memories at the vet than good ones. I wont forget either one...but i shed no tear for the vet.
Same can about basically every stadium the Eagles and Phils ever played in, or currently play in, dookie.
I think the big thing with the Vet vs the Linc is that the Vet truly was "our house." It wasn't owned by a giant corporation and we were pretty much free to do what we wanted there. We could hang signs where ever we wanted and could pretty much go to the bathroom where ever we wanted as well. We could be drunk and obnoxious and nobody cared.
In the few times I've been to the Linc now (4 or 5 total) I never really got the feeling that I was walking on home turf. Maybe it's just because I'm still generally unfamiliar with the layout and everything but to me, it just felt different. At the Vet, we were like home owners. At the Linc, we're more like tenants. JMO.
i dont disagree with any of that....
In the few times I've been to the Linc now (4 or 5 total) I never really got the feeling that I was walking on home turf. Maybe it's just because I'm still generally unfamiliar with the layout and everything but to me, it just felt different. At the Vet, we were like home owners. At the Linc, we're more like tenants.
well said
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2007, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on April 19, 2007, 07:49:07 PM
I said it then, I'll say it now. But there were more zesty memories at the vet than good ones. I wont forget either one...but i shed no tear for the vet.
Same can about basically every stadium the Eagles and Phils ever played in, or currently play in, dookie.
I think the big thing with the Vet vs the Linc is that the Vet truly was "our house." It wasn't owned by a giant corporation and we were pretty much free to do what we wanted there. We could hang signs where ever we wanted and could pretty much go to the bathroom where ever we wanted as well. We could be drunk and obnoxious and nobody cared.
In the few times I've been to the Linc now (4 or 5 total) I never really got the feeling that I was walking on home turf. Maybe it's just because I'm still generally unfamiliar with the layout and everything but to me, it just felt different. At the Vet, we were like home owners. At the Linc, we're more like tenants. JMO.
Sarge,
No doubt that feeling was accelerated by moving into the new (and corporately named) stadium, but unfortunately things were trending that way, whether the team moved or not.
Heck, in the Miami stadium (whatever they're calling it this week), you're not really allowed to do anything. Even for the dozen or so fans that go to the Marlins games.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on April 19, 2007, 08:56:39 PM
No doubt that feeling was accelerated by moving into the new (and corporately named) stadium, but unfortunately things were trending that way, whether the team moved or not.
Heck, in the Miami stadium (whatever they're calling it this week), you're not really allowed to do anything. Even for the dozen or so fans that go to the Marlins games.
I hear ya. It's not just the newer venues that are getting corporate names tagged on them so I'm sure that even if the Vet still stood today, it would either currently have or would one day get a corporate name attached to it and there would then be stricter policies governing fan behavior inside.
Then again, what corporation in their right mind would want to purchase naming rights to the Vet? The place was a friggin dump so maybe JP Mascara or some other local trash truck company would take it but that's about it. :-D
Quote from: Sgt PSN on April 19, 2007, 08:06:05 PM
In the few times I've been to the Linc now (4 or 5 total) I never really got the feeling that I was walking on home turf. Maybe it's just because I'm still generally unfamiliar with the layout and everything but to me, it just felt different. At the Vet, we were like home owners. At the Linc, we're more like tenants. JMO.
agreed
Quote from: Butchers Bill on April 19, 2007, 02:17:02 PM
Section 111 where my seats are we have the same issue. Different people in front of us and behind us every friggin week. Ususally the people behind us are the types that say "can you please sit down" to which the 15-20 regulars we have respond "farg you". Its quite the scene.
The seats I have in 110 are so low that there's really no need to stand up but we still do and no one says a farging word to us.
The only time I've ever sat down was during the Seattle debacle two years ago partly from being freezing ass cold, partly because I was shtein-faced to the point of being a talking monkey, and partly because it was snowing so hard you couldn't see what was going on at the other end of the field anyway.
Other than that game, it's been a non-stop party every time I've been in those seats. I can't imagine why there are so many iceholes in 111 yet so many cool people in 110. I guess if I went to every game my perspective might be different, but because I only get to two or three games a year, I'm just happy to be there regardless.
I can't imagine why there are so many iceholes in 111 yet so many cool people in 110.
cause you sit in 110 cool guy