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Title: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 20, 2007, 05:46:15 PM
Who will be the opening day punter for the Eagles this year?

Exciting stuff.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: MDS on March 20, 2007, 06:07:29 PM
No.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Eaglez on March 20, 2007, 06:10:43 PM
Saverio is going to kick Dirk in the mouth.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Feva on March 20, 2007, 08:06:47 PM
Let's just say that I don't see any video tributes to Diggler on YouTube!!!1!RuGGByzzzzz!!1!!@#@$%!!!!!
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Phanatic on March 20, 2007, 10:56:45 PM
On like Donkey Kong?
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Cerevant on March 21, 2007, 06:17:05 AM
Australian Rules Football != Rugby
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: rjs246 on March 21, 2007, 08:07:17 AM
BANG
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
I like that Rocca calls Eagles fans "Eagles supporters"
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: phattymatty on March 21, 2007, 10:20:25 AM
i don't see how a football is much different from what he's used to.  saverio beats dirk easily.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
I like that Rocca calls Eagles fans "Eagles supporters"

He cracks me up... it's obvious to anyone who listens to him for two minutes that he knows next to nothing about American football but he tries to fake it anyway.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
I like that Rocca calls Eagles fans "Eagles supporters"

He cracks me up... it's obvious to anyone who listens to him for two minutes that he knows next to nothing about American football but he tries to fake it anyway.

I know. I hope he gets the job just so we can hear him more...

Luckily, as a punter, he really doesn't need to know anything about football.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
I like that Rocca calls Eagles fans "Eagles supporters"

He cracks me up... it's obvious to anyone who listens to him for two minutes that he knows next to nothing about American football but he tries to fake it anyway.

I know. I hope he gets the job just so we can hear him more...

Luckily, as a punter, he really doesn't need to know anything about football.

Yeah, he only needs a limited set of knowledge for his role.

He probably refers to a team as a "side" too. Some Scottish guy once asked me "how's your side?" I had no idea he was asking me about my team.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 03:20:49 PM
Quote from: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:18:08 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 03:10:28 PM
Quote from: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
I like that Rocca calls Eagles fans "Eagles supporters"

He cracks me up... it's obvious to anyone who listens to him for two minutes that he knows next to nothing about American football but he tries to fake it anyway.

I know. I hope he gets the job just so we can hear him more...

Luckily, as a punter, he really doesn't need to know anything about football.

Yeah, he only needs a limited set of knowledge for his role.

He probably refers to a team as a "side" too. Some Scottish guy once asked me "how's your side?" I had no idea he was asking me about my team.

The game will be a "match" and the field will be a "pitch"
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Father Demon on March 21, 2007, 03:35:35 PM
Quote from: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
I like that Rocca calls Eagles fans "Eagles supporters"

He cracks me up... it's obvious to anyone who listens to him for two minutes that he knows next to nothing about American football but he tries to fake it anyway.

He'd fit in well with some on this board.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:38:49 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on March 21, 2007, 03:35:35 PM
Quote from: -Triumph- on March 21, 2007, 03:08:14 PM
Quote from: SidFarkus on March 21, 2007, 10:14:18 AM
I like that Rocca calls Eagles fans "Eagles supporters"

He cracks me up... it's obvious to anyone who listens to him for two minutes that he knows next to nothing about American football but he tries to fake it anyway.

He'd fit in well with some on this board.

Heh. Well I wouldn't know about that... I was last on this board in 2004... I saw that I had three messages since I was last on. One was from phillygirl and the other two were gay porn.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on March 21, 2007, 03:47:59 PM
The one from PhillyGirl was gay porn also, though, right?
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Father Demon on March 21, 2007, 04:01:54 PM
Should be.  That's the last one I got from PG.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 11, 2007, 07:58:41 AM
QuoteROCCA II
Australian rules legend hopes for hang time
By MARK KRAM
kramm@phillynews.com

RYAN PIERSE/Getty Images
Saverio Rocca, the challenger to incumbent Eagles punter Dirk Johnson, gets off a kick for the North Melbourne Kangeroos in a 2004.
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Six weeks ago, Saverio Rocca boarded an airplane in Australia to continue his quest to become an NFL punter with the Eagles. The 6-5, 265-pound Rocca squeezed into a coach seat and endured the 15-hour journey to Los Angeles, only to discover that his 3-hour layover there could be as long as 3 or 4 days because a snowstorm had played havoc with air traffic across America. So instead of flying into Philadelphia, he eventually found a seat on a flight to Washington, where he then boarded a train to the 30th Street Station. Hang time between departure and arrival: 43 hours.

"Just getting here was an experience," Rocca says. "I had to curl up in the corner at the airport in LA to get some sleep."

Chances are, you have not heard of Sav Rocca unless you happen to be a fan of Australian Rules Football. He was a star player for 15 years for the Collingwood Magpies (1992-99) and the North Melbourne Kangeroos (2000-06), during which he recorded 748 goals in 257 games. Followers of the Australian Football League and the NFL say Rocca was the equivalent in stature in Australia of Green Bay quarterback Brett Favre in the United States. He was so popular over there that a fan placed a farewell tribute to him on YouTube.

The 34-year-old Rocca now hopes to follow in the footsteps of former Australian rules stars Darren Bennett, who played 11 seasons with San Diego and Minnesota, and Ben Graham, who has punted the last two seasons for the New York Jets.

The Eagles gave Rocca a tryout last November and were intrigued enough to offer him a 3-year "futures contract" in January. He has been working out with the club and will be in uniform tomorrow when minicamp begins. While it is not uncommon for teams to bring in an "extra leg" for such events, it appears that Rocca has a genuine shot to unseat incumbent Dirk Johnson, who has been plagued by injury and a lack of effectiveness. Last year, the Eagles were 23rd in the league in gross yards punting and 28th in net yards punting. So an opportunity would appear to be there for Rocca.

Sources say the Eagles have been impressed so far. The word is that he has had a big leg in his workouts. Reportedly, the hang time on his punts has been clocked at 5.4 seconds, which is well above the 4.5 range that is generally considered adequate. Moreover, sources indicated that Rocca is progressing well in his effort to learn to be the holder for David Akers, a job that for years had been held down by backup quarterback Koy Detmer. When Detmer was cut last summer, the job was inherited by Johnson, who did not especially excel at it. Detmer was re-signed last year as the holder for the playoffs.

So what have the Eagles told Rocca?

"Two or three weeks ago, they said I was 50-50," he says. "Hopefully, if I keep working hard and keep learning, I can get that to 70-30 in my favor. The bottom line is that there are no guarantees."
Australian rules football is a hybrid of American football, soccer and basketball. The game is played on an oval, 250 yards long by 200 yards wide. The teams play 18 to a side, with four reserves. The ball - which is rounded at the ends - is passed by kicking it. One can also "hand ball it," which is not unlike a volleyball serve. A player running with the ball is required to bounce it at least every 15 yards. Defense is played one-on-one, the same as they do in the NBA, and points are scored by booting the ball between the uprights for one or six points. Rocca says that some players run a total of 12 to 15 miles a game, and that it is a sport that can "take a toll on the body with the tackling and hitting" involved. He has had shoulder, knee and ankle injuries through the years.

"You get to the age where your body just says, 'No more!' " says Rocca, who has been joined in Philadelphia by his wife, Rose, and their two sons, Matthew, 4, and Lucas, 1 1/2. "I probably could have gone on another year, but I came to the conclusion it was time to get out."

He chuckles and adds, "Knowing the way it is over here, I should have come over 10 years ago. It would have been a lot better for my body."

But that idea did not occur to Rocca until his career in Australia began winding down. "The NFL always seemed so far away when I was younger," says Rocca, adding that AFL players can earn the equivalent of $100,000. Financially, he did well enough to buy a piece of two restaurants. He has a tract of rural property that he would like to build a house on at some point. But when he decided to pack it in with the Kangeroos, he figured he could "get another 3, 4 or 5 years" out of his body athletically by playing in the NFL.

"I was looking for the next phase in my life," he says. "I knew I had a strong leg and that I could still kick the ball a long way. I knew that could translate into the NFL. I know punting is just a small part of the American game, but if I can do it well, I think there will be a place for me over here."

His wife has been supportive. "He had been thinking about it for 6 years or so," says Rose, who works as a dietician at a cancer institute in Australia. "But it was just a year ago that he decided to go ahead and do it. He knew it would be a big commitment. We always said we would like to live overseas at some point. But because of the way contracts are here, we have to more or less put our lives on hold. We have no idea where we will be in September."

Bennett and Graham have been a big help to Rocca, who came to the United States last fall when a tryout was lined up for him in Buffalo. "The hope was that I would get picked and sent to NFL Europe," he says. Bennett worked with him for a week in San Diego during that period. Rocca would have a kicking session and he and Bennett would analyze the video of that. While Bennett could not be reached because he was on a hunting expedition in New Zealand, Rocca says, "He showed me what I was doing wrong, and gave me a lot of insight into what happens in a game."

Such as?

"Specifically, you have to always be aware from where the rush is coming from," Rocca says. "Is it coming from the right, left or center? He told me, 'Try not to kick into the side of heavy traffic. But if all else fails, just get it away.' "

Rocca landed with the Eagles when Buffalo did not immediately sign him. Graham introduced him to his agent, Boston-based Kristen Kuliga, who worked quickly to get Rocca the Eagles tryout. Scheduled to fly back home that Saturday, Rocca called Kuliga on Tuesday and had his audition with the Eagles by Thursday. She said Rocca is in the same situation Graham had been before the Jets signed him.

"Both of them were impressive enough in their workouts that the team offered to work with them during the offseason," says Kuliga, who also represents Doug Flutie, the former CFL and NFL quarterback. "Sav has to just keep working hard, stay focused and learn the technique of punting in the NFL."

Rocca concedes his approach to kicking here has been altered somewhat. "Our kicking [in Australia] is generated through a lot of steps to the ball," he says. "Here, all the power is generated with two or three steps. Also, the flight of our ball is generally a lot lower - probably like a quarterback pass - not with the high arc they have over here."

Whatever happens in the weeks ahead, Rocca says he knows it will be a worthwhile experience. He says if the Eagles end up cutting him, he would be more than willing to give it a shot with some other team.

"But if nothing else comes up, I will know that I gave it a try," he says. "The last thing I wanted to do was let the opportunity pass and wake up 20 years from now, wondering what could have been."

Grinning, he adds, "I am here. I am working my butt off. And I am enjoying every minute of it." *

Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Magical_Retard on May 11, 2007, 01:06:11 PM
our special teams might be pretty good this yr. we have a upgrade in the return game and might have a better punter.

its been so long but imagine a punt return for a TD.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2007, 01:10:18 PM
a better punter?

forget winning the puntting job is there anyone who doesnt believe that the kangaroo will be among the first cuts in training camp

skiers
kangaroos
mormans
1-aa asian engineers
white afros
magicians

all they need to add is a fire eater and lehigh will literally be a circus
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Cerevant on May 11, 2007, 01:33:35 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2007, 01:10:18 PM
forget winning the puntting job is there anyone who doesnt believe that the kangaroo will be among the first cuts in training camp

5.4 second hang time?  I think they are going to give this guy a long look.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2007, 01:37:29 PM
5.4 second hang time?

you dont really believe that do you

urban offseason legend

in 30 years well be telling our kids about the kangaroo who had the 'almost 10 second hangtime'
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 11, 2007, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2007, 01:37:29 PM
5.4 second hang time?

you dont really believe that do you

urban offseason legend

in 30 years well be telling our kids about the kangaroo who had the 'almost 10 second hangtime'
It's obviously a conspiracy
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: rjs246 on May 11, 2007, 01:48:10 PM
QuoteThe 6-5, 265-pound Rocca...

farg punting. Put his ass in at TE.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 11, 2007, 01:48:52 PM
Yes, it's a conspiracy if the return man is black and from a poor neighborhood.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: ice grillin you on May 11, 2007, 01:49:51 PM
It's obviously a conspiracy

duh...the article is from the daily news
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on May 11, 2007, 01:52:49 PM
If you look at the history of these guys coming over, he really has a good chance.  Also considering he's going against Dirk
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Munson on May 11, 2007, 01:55:39 PM
I'd like to have him just to see him deck someone. Would be enjoyable to see returnmen afraid of a punter.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 11, 2007, 02:06:25 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2007, 01:10:18 PM
skiers
kangaroos
mormans
1-aa asian engineers
white afros
magicians

all they need to add is a fire eater and lehigh will literally be a circus

Sounds like some sort of bizzaro Village People tribute band. 
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 11, 2007, 02:06:59 PM
All they need are some gays.
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: SunMo on May 11, 2007, 02:07:25 PM
Banner
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: Sgt PSN on May 11, 2007, 02:08:24 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on May 11, 2007, 02:06:59 PM
All they need are some gays.

He signed with Tampa. 
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on May 11, 2007, 02:11:21 PM
...yet another blatant reluctance of the FO to backfill a position of need!
Title: Re: Dirk v. Saverio - It's so farging ON
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on May 11, 2007, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 11, 2007, 01:10:18 PM
a better punter?

forget winning the puntting job is there anyone who doesnt believe that the kangaroo will be among the first cuts in training camp

skiers
kangaroos
mormans
1-aa asian engineers
white afros
magicians

all they need to add is a fire eater and lehigh will literally be a circus

:-D :-D

I was a Kangaroo.

KILLEEN KANGAROOS WHAT!