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Football => The Rest of the NFL => Topic started by: BlueHeart on March 03, 2007, 08:18:43 PM

Title: Quality Control
Post by: BlueHeart on March 03, 2007, 08:18:43 PM
What do these guys do?

I've never heard of them before, or just didn't pay any attention, and we hired a new QC guy for offense (yea, good luck) and you guys just hired Nixon for the ST... wtf do they do?
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Munson on March 03, 2007, 08:19:59 PM
They control the quality. Or they provide quality control.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Diomedes on March 03, 2007, 08:22:31 PM
They make sure the quality is under control.  You just can't have out of control quality in the NFL.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: BlueHeart on March 03, 2007, 08:26:28 PM
OK- so that's 3 of us that don't know.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Munson on March 03, 2007, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 03, 2007, 08:26:28 PM
OK- so that's 3 of us that don't know.

We should hire a People That Don't Know Quality Control guy to make sure we don't know in controlled amounts of quality.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: ice grillin you on March 03, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
they organize and watch game tape mostly

they do a lot of statistical anaylization as well
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Munson on March 03, 2007, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
they organize and watch game tape mostly

they do a lot of statistical anaylization as well

In that case, can we please hire Jaws to do some quality control for Andy Reid?
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: QB Eagles on March 03, 2007, 11:48:02 PM
Eagles transactions:

02/20/2007 James Urban named Offensive Assistant/Quality Control Coach
02/20/2007 Bill Shuey named Defensive Assistant/Quality Control Coach
03/01/2007 Jeff Nixon named Special Teams Quality Control Coach

I'll assume that any lack of quality displayed next season reflects solely on them.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: BlueHeart on March 04, 2007, 12:56:01 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
they organize and watch game tape mostly

they do a lot of statistical anaylization as well

Ahh, thank you.

Basically a bullshtein job.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: General_Failure on March 04, 2007, 01:57:25 AM
Like standup philosopher.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Geowhizzer on March 04, 2007, 07:31:02 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on March 04, 2007, 01:57:25 AM
Like standup philosopher.

Thank you, Comicus.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: DH on March 04, 2007, 06:44:49 PM
Quote from: BlueHeart on March 04, 2007, 12:56:01 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 03, 2007, 09:15:52 PM
they organize and watch game tape mostly

they do a lot of statistical anaylization as well

Ahh, thank you.

Basically a bullshtein job.

Ah, no.

I have a friend who does this for a professional team, and not only is it a sick job in terms of coolness, but the hours are ridiculous.

Far from bullshtein.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Diomedes on March 04, 2007, 07:04:22 PM
Alright then...if you have a friend who does this then do us all a favor and get him to write a paragraph or two about what he actually does.  Or get him to describe it to you in such a way that you can write a paragraph or two.  What does he do all day?  What influence does he have?  Etc.

Until someone can explain this bullshtein title, it sounds to me like the guy my corporate empoyer had whose title was Director of Premiumization Strategy.   In other words, utter crap.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 07:08:56 PM
die hard is correct in that the hours are outrageous...and i think these people are somewhat valuable...

that being said a monkey could do their job
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Diomedes on March 04, 2007, 07:13:13 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 07:08:56 PM
die hard is correct in that the hours are outrageous...and i think these people are somewhat valuable...

that being said a monkey could do their job

the hours are outrageous for powerpoint monkeys in NYC corporate life.  big goddamned deal.

what does the cat actually do??
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 07:16:55 PM
calm down...no one is saying they are close on a cure for aids
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: General_Failure on March 04, 2007, 07:18:08 PM
But they can break down the film on scientists all over the world working on a cure for AIDS. They'll have it ready for you in the morning.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Diomedes on March 04, 2007, 07:18:10 PM
fair enough...but the title is ludicrous enough, and also commone enough, that if we got a dude here who can actually explain what that shtein mean, then I'd love to hear it.

because it sounds like a fleshpop sucker title if ever I heard one
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: DH on March 04, 2007, 07:18:27 PM
Analyzing game tape & opponents, understanding trends & player weaknesses and strengths, etc.

The guy has a distinct affect on players playing time because he understands matchups.  Not sure where the bullshtein part comes in. Its a whole lot more than hitting a rewind a fast forward button.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Diomedes on March 04, 2007, 07:23:05 PM
The bullshtein part comes from the bullshtein title.

So what you're telling me is that this cat is the guy who studies game tape, and says this player tends this, that player tends that, and this intelligence is then used by coaches to say who is double teamed, and who isn't?  etc. 

so we're talking about a guy who spends 110 hours a week at work, 80 of them watching tape and taking notes and 30 of them giving reports to a HC/OC/DC, who then relies on this stuff to make assignments?

what this has to do with quality control, I don't understand, but....whatever
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: DH on March 04, 2007, 07:29:49 PM
I could care less what the title on his business card states, but I told you what the guy does and it seems like you understand.

Is the title bullshtein? Maybe. Is the job? No shot.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: ice grillin you on March 04, 2007, 07:36:38 PM
so we're talking about a guy who spends 110 hours a week at work, 80 of them watching tape and taking notes and 30 of them giving reports to a HC/OC/DC, who then relies on this stuff to make assignments?

dont get it twisted...reid and the other coaches watch more film than these guys...the qc coaches will take instructions and look for certain things at the direction of the coaches and coordinators...these guys are looking for what they are told...not freelancing and making their own determinations on schemes and stuff...otherwise theyd be coaches and not video grunts

a team could easily survive without any qc coaches and back in the day they didnt exist...but that doesnt mean their job is bullshtein....i agree tho that the job title is a curious one
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Diomedes on March 04, 2007, 07:55:13 PM
you haven't said much, Die Hard.  But alright, I'll drop it.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: NGM on March 04, 2007, 08:02:58 PM
Quality Control is a really good album by Jurassic 5. 

Can we close this thread now?
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: BlueHeart on March 04, 2007, 08:16:00 PM
The End of Days is surely upon us. I agree with Dio.

And judging from the various tidbit definitions, it sounds like they do the same shtein 15 other people do.

When training camp rolls around, since Dave will know, I will make it my mission to get to the bottom of this.   :-D


If I remember...
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2007, 09:57:27 PM
I'd take one of those jobs in a heartbeat though. That's the way to get your foot in the door to a better gig.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: BlueHeart on March 04, 2007, 10:06:51 PM
No doubt. Most of us would, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Diomedes on March 04, 2007, 10:36:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on March 04, 2007, 09:57:27 PM
That's the way to get your foot in the door to a better gig.

This is the only definition of the role I can accept to far, and if that's all it is, then it's every bit the piece of bullshtein I thought it was.
Title: Re: Quality Control
Post by: Sgt PSN on March 05, 2007, 08:22:43 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 04, 2007, 07:23:05 PM
The bullshtein part comes from the bullshtein title.

So what you're telling me is that this cat is the guy who studies game tape, and says this player tends this, that player tends that, and this intelligence is then used by coaches to say who is double teamed, and who isn't?  etc. 

so we're talking about a guy who spends 110 hours a week at work, 80 of them watching tape and taking notes and 30 of them giving reports to a HC/OC/DC, who then relies on this stuff to make assignments?

what this has to do with quality control, I don't understand, but....whatever

Once the game plan is established, the quality control guy garnishes it with an "Approved by Inspector 12" sticker.