They traded some veterans during the draft last year, there may be more this year. My vote is for L J and William Thomas for the right price.
tra thomas' cap number is 5 mil...he would be difficult to deal i think
and with the wr'ing core they are gonna have next year they need lj...trading him plus losing stallworth would be disaster
5 mill for an above average LT that probably has 5-6 good years left is extremely reasonable, especially in today's market. I think WT is signed thru 2008. ??? I just don't see the reasoning behind Winston Justice sitting on the bench for 3 years, as long as he has been busting his ass to get on the field.
I've been doggin L J for a couple seasons now. I'd prefer a Jason Witten type TE, less athlete, more of a football player.
Just imagine if Detroit or cleveland came out of the draft with WT and Adrian Peterson or WT and Calvin Johnson. WOW
probably has 5-6 good years left
BAN?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 28, 2007, 11:21:18 AM
probably has 5-6 good years left
BAN?
Seriously. What the farg?
He's only 32, I think it's definitely possible. I consider his play last year his best season in 2 or 3, probably because he was in better shape due to the health concerns he had.
I dunno if he's got 5-6 solid years left in him. I'd say he's got 2, maybe 3 left in him where he can play at a pro bowl level and maybe 4 years overall. And that's pushing it, imo.
i could be wrong but i dont believe theres an offensive tackle in the nfl right now over the age of 33
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 28, 2007, 12:07:28 PM
i could be wrong but i dont believe theres an offensive tackle in the nfl right now over the age of 33
you be wrong.
starting?
how many one or two?
who are they?
remember ogden is gonna retire
Tra's got one more year, tops. They didn't draft Winston Justice to sit on the bench waiting for Tra to retire.
Tra's contract runs out after 2007. He's definitely gone after that and maybe sooner if Justice proves he's ready to take over.
Wayne Gandy is one. If I have time to scour the net maybe id find more.
Jon Runyan. ;)
forgot about gandy...hes really old too...i bet thats it tho
point is tra thomas aint playing 5 more years period
much less '5-6 more good years'
runyan will be 34 in november
Fred Miller- starter
Todd Fordham
Barrett Brooks
fred miller is a good one
Id be surprised if Tra even makes it past next season. With that back and Justice waiting in the wings.
Walter Jones is a pretty good one, just turned 33.
Lomas Brown was still a quality LT for the Giants at 38.
What about Michael Lewis?? Looks like we have a replacement for him.......trade bait?
Quote from: 4and26 on February 28, 2007, 01:28:34 PM
What about Michael Lewis?? Looks like we have a replacement for him.......trade bait?
Do you have an extra X chromosome?
i wanna know so bad what the eagles think of justice right now since they are the only people that have seen him (in practice for the last year)...
i think about it all the time...
right now they could be like shtein this kid cant play holy crap what are we gonna do....or wow we got the steal of the draft hes gonna be a good one
i really wanna know and dont wanna wait any longer
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 28, 2007, 01:36:15 PM
i wanna know so bad what the eagles think of justice right now since they are the only people that have seen him (in practice for the last year)...
i think about it all the time...
right now they could be like shtein this kid cant play holy crap what are we gonna do....or wow we got the steal of the draft hes gonna be a good one
i really wanna know and dont wanna wait any longer
They think he's going to be awesome, but not quite as awesome as Gocong.
Quote from: 4and26 on February 28, 2007, 01:28:34 PM
What about Michael Lewis?? Looks like we have a replacement for him.......trade bait?
WE CUD TR8DE HIM RIGHT NOW N THEN ON FRIDAY HE BE A FREE AJENT N WE GET TRADE 4 NUTHGIN!
The only one I can really see is Darwin Walker or maybe(but doubtful) MJG. I remember teams were interested in MJG last season before the deadline, so maybe teams will want him during the draft.
The only way they trade AJ is if they plan on spending thier first or 2nd on a TE (doubtful), or plan on grabbing the guy from UD in the 3rd or 4th. But like IGY said, assuming Stallworth is gone, they're going to need a productive year out of the TE posistion, and I'm not sure I want to depend on a rookie to do it.
Eric Johnson anyone?
Nevermind, we got Matt Schobel!
wooooooooo!
I'd be moderately shocked if they moved LJ. Only reason it wouldn't be a major shock is that it doesn't look promising to resign him at this point; that said, Schobel was underwhelming and it'll talke a rookie at least a year to be comfortable in this offense. On top of that, the team likes to deploy two TE sets. They're going to want to give McNabb a security blanket, too. Anyway, I don't think LJ moves.
LJ Smith is not getting traded.
Yeah, that is the short answer.
He's also not getting re-signed during or after this season. They got what they wanted out of their small school, low salary guy...now they'll let him go.
I'm just saying that to say it. I can't see into the future.
They got what they wanted out of their small school, low salary guy
paging die-hard
Quote from: Diomedes on March 01, 2007, 09:01:26 AM
He's also not getting re-signed during or after this season. They got what they wanted out of their small school, low salary guy...now they'll let him go.
I'm just saying that to say it. I can't see into the future.
That sounds right, this way we'll get a full year of drama about how LJ feels disrespected in playing his last year w/o a contract. I predict a tearful LJ interview on Comcast at some point & an underwhelming performance.
Quote from: King Cole on February 28, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
The only one I can really see is Darwin Walker or maybe(but doubtful) MJG. I remember teams were interested in MJG last season before the deadline, so maybe teams will want him during the draft.
Why the hell would we trade MJG?!? fargtard.
He has a point Mussa, there was interest leading up to the deadline last year. I dont see them doing it, but if they got a first rounder or a great offer who knows.
are you insane what team is gonna give up a first rounder for a guy drafted in the 4th round whos never seen the field
hes not getting traded but if he did it would be for at best a 4th rounder
At best a 4th? I'd think at best a fifth, reasoning that since couldn't get on the field all year, why in hell would anyone give an equal pick to what he initially cost?
Exactly... I still cant believe he fell that far :-D
Quote from: Diomedes on March 01, 2007, 12:01:50 PM
At best a 4th? I'd think at best a fifth, reasoning that since couldn't get on the field all year, why in hell would anyone give an equal pick to what he initially cost?
For someone who likes to jump on my "VIGY is over-argumentative" party train, you sure can pick a nit.
at best = the most theyd get
meaning in all probability it would be less than a fourth
and i cant beleive we are discussing mjg trade scenarios
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2007, 12:04:49 PM
i cant beleive we are discussing mjg trade scenarios
MJG and a 5th for Urlakkker?
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 01, 2007, 12:03:17 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on March 01, 2007, 12:01:50 PM
At best a 4th? I'd think at best a fifth, reasoning that since couldn't get on the field all year, why in hell would anyone give an equal pick to what he initially cost?
For someone who likes to jump on my "VIGY is over-argumentative" party train, you sure can pick a nit.
I don't think I'm being argumentative there.
URLAKKER Straight up
I don't think I'm being argumentative there
ill give you the benefit of the doubt and attribute it to a lack of reading comprehension
but if you read it and understood that i was saying best case scenario = a 4th and still proceeded to say that in a never gonna happen hypothetical trade scenario i was one round off then you most certainly were being argumentative...which is a good thing...thats what these boards are for...and actually the more you argue the better i feel about myself because i usually trounce you
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2007, 12:10:42 PM
actually the more you argue the better i feel about myself because i usually trounce you
Uh oh... there went the gloves.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 01, 2007, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2007, 12:10:42 PM
actually the more you argue the better i feel about myself because i usually trounce you
Uh oh... there went the gloves.
Or here considering how much pride Dio takes in his English and Vocabulary:
Quote from: ice grillin you on March 01, 2007, 12:10:42 PM
ill give you the benefit of the doubt and attribute it to a lack of reading comprehension
oh for farg sake, I take it back. I was totally trolling, you can tell by the tone of my post. and you're right you always trounce me, because you're better than me.
Miller Genuine Draft > MJG.
For all we know, Schlitz > MJG
Can beer > bottle beer.
Obviously.
cheap beer > expensive beer
True.
Natty Bo > piss maybe
Natty Boh > life
Killing yourselves > Just shutting up
Tired internet cliches > life.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 01, 2007, 11:54:35 AM
He has a point Mussa, there was interest leading up to the deadline last year. I dont see them doing it, but if they got a first rounder or a great offer who knows.
He has no point. Thats fargin retarded. Don't state the obvious seabiscuit, we all knew teams were interested in him.
Fight me NOW... :-D
Someone needs to develop internet Rockem Sockems to duel shtein out
No need to fight buddy. It makes no sense to me to draft a guy and then trade him away in exactly one yrs time. MJG is a project who could hopefully take Herremans place in the next few yrs or just develop into a solid backup if Andrews or Herremans get hurt. I wouldn't give him up yet, plus we'd get jack shtein for him/.
I dont want to trade him either, just playing devils advocate. MJG was the top rated G on alot of publications, i'm still in awe that he fell.
Quote from: mussa on March 01, 2007, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: King Cole on February 28, 2007, 06:04:57 PM
The only one I can really see is Darwin Walker or maybe(but doubtful) MJG. I remember teams were interested in MJG last season before the deadline, so maybe teams will want him during the draft.
Why the hell would we trade MJG?!? fargtard.
Ummm, didn't you read? I said we wouldn't.
:-D