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I find no solace in this.
good for harbaugh to move up but imo its a demotion...were the special teams as good as they once were this doesnt happen
At least it means that new blood will be brought in as special teams coach.
Hell, hire Brian Mitchell for all I care.
meh
I'm quite dissapointed in the fact that Jim Johnson is still allowed in the building.
Yeah, I don't know if a DB coach is higher up on the coaching hierarchy than a special teams coach.
So much for all that "Harbaugh is the best special teams coach in the NFL" stuff. At one point he seemed pretty good, but this year was pretty disappointing, especially in kickoff coverage.
Last year STs sucked too. Whatever. Shuffle the cards all you like, still the same goddamned deck.
maybe they figure its a good move since the one guy harbaugh is gonna really have to work with is a special teamer (considine)
It seemed like McDermott was getting alot of TV time this year during games
does this mean Reno will be the nickel back?
Ha!
Cut Reno and make him the new ST coach.
Why can't the Eagles make a play for the Bears special teams coach.
Hester is bester than Reno.
That was gayly retarded. Shut up me.
In order for Harbaugh to move on to other coaching jobs (coordinatorm etc) he need some experience other than just being a STs guy. So this moves him forward in that sense.
Like I said in the Spagnuolo thread I think McDermott is the replacement for JJ whenever he rolls out. He had a more visible role this year as being the guy signaling in the calls and seemed to have JJ's ear more than ever.
Quote from: hbionic on January 23, 2007, 12:35:11 PM
Why can't the Eagles make a play for the Bears special teams coach.
Hester is bester than Reno.
That was gayly retarded. Shut up me.
The Bears STs coach used to be with the Eagles - Dave Toub.
I wonder if J.R. Reed wouldn't have been fence hoping, I wonder if we would be having this convesation.
We should be looking for a new DC and HC.
GET TOUB! (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/16538669.htm)
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QuoteSmith brushes off Toub-to-Eagles talk
Super Bowl Notes
MIAMI - At least the Eagles were mentioned during the first full day of interviews at Super Bowl XLI.
During his meeting with the media at the Miami Beach Convention Center, Chicago Bears head coach Lovie Smith was asked about rumblings that his special-teams coach Dave Toub might leave to take a job in the same role with the Eagles after the season.
"This is the first I've heard of it," Smith said. "As far as things coming out like that during the week, Dave Toub is our special-teams coach. That's all we are concerned about. He was at practice today working hard just like he always does. If things come up at the end of the season, we'll deal with them, but I can't see why anybody would want to leave and not coach for the Chicago Bears. I'd answer it that way."
Toub spent three seasons (2001 to 2003) as an assistant to Eagles special-teams coordinator John Harbaugh before leaving to take the coordinator's job with the Bears in 2004. He has built the Bears' special teams into one of the best in the NFL and there are indications that he'd like to remain in Chicago. His contract expires after this season, however, and the Eagles are in need of a special-teams coordinator because Harbaugh vacated that position last week to become the team's secondary coach.
Toub, 44, has a close relationship with Eagles coach Andy Reid that dates back to his playing days at Texas-El Paso when Reid was a coach at that school.
So seriously.. who is the new ST coach going to be? Are we going to get that Toub dude? That would be sweet.
Promoting from within (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=64936)
Rory Segrest gets the ST coordinator job, up from ST quality control.
Bill Shuey is now defensive assistant/quality control, over from offense.
James Urban is now offensive assistant/quality control, taking Shuey's previous spot.
If you know who those people are, you need to start reevaluating things.
Taub just signed a 3 year contract. He could have done us alot of good.
how much of a break is andy really taking if all this is happening...and if he is really out of the loop was that a reason why they didnt go after rivera and/or toub...who is making these coaching staff decisions?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 21, 2007, 06:14:29 AM
..who is making these coaching staff decisions?
With Andy out, it's probably bedlam down at the Novacare. JJ & Heckert are probably having office chair races down the hallways, while Spadaro is organizing Nerf basketball tournaments.
For all we know, they could have went after Toub/Rivera or at least reached out to them to judge their interest & lost them for other reasons. If they didn't go after them, I don't think it has anything to do with Reid's semi-absence.
They said all along that the chain of command would not change and that Reid would be consulted before decisions, even though he's not going to the NovaCare complex every day.
theres absolutely no way they reached out to rivera...they wouldnt bring a guy on the staff that would be a valid replacement for andy...cant really blame them either
They said all along that the chain of command would not change and that Reid would be consulted before decisions
if reid is merely being consulted on these decisions then the chain of command most certainly has changed
You're taking my choice of terminology too literally.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2007, 12:38:00 PM
You're taking my choice of terminology too literally.
what else is new?
within 20 minutes of each other i get called out for being too literal and not literal enough
i love this place
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 21, 2007, 01:53:59 PM
within 20 minutes of each other i get called out for being too literal and not literal enough
i love this place
Well, in all fairness, you do alter your comprehension style depending on what makes the better argument.
not really....most people tho are not as fair as i am...so when i say something in support of the team i get it from one side and when i say something that could be looked at as critical i get it from the other
fair is fair billie jean
what do u expect, your black!
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2007, 02:03:17 PMWell, in all fairness, you do alter your comprehension style depending on what makes the better argument.
^^^
true talk
lol....here comes the calvary
what do u expect, your black!
im not black im wiggy (sorry im usually not that mean to myself) vigy
You'll never admit he's right, that's why I'm piling on. It's fun.
Is IGY now arguing that his style is non-argumentative?
its a message board youre supposed to argue...what good would it be if everyone agreed....just so happens that most of my opinions are not agreed with...
unless you believe that i disagree just to argue with people and i dont really believe what im saying is true....and in that case i should be banned...
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 21, 2007, 02:45:14 PM
its a message board youre supposed to argue...what good would it be if everyone agreed....just so happens that most of my opinions are not agreed with...
unless you believe that i disagree just to argue with people and i dont really believe what im saying is true....and in that case i should be banned...
I think you would wither away and die if you realized that more people agree with you on all things non-movie-related than you give us/them credit for. You're not nearly as persecuted for your opinions as your message board persona would have us believe. It's more as if you find the small disagreements and magnify them.
I don't believe you represent anything other than your own beliefs, but it's certain that you do thrive on points of contention and almost seemingly dislike accord.
well, you do like to insult, instigate, and push a discussion towards a you-against-everyone (except your sidekick of course) dynamic, but no I'm not saying you're a troll.
You DO however alter your style and emphases depending on your argument, depend upon hyperbolic statements that don't pin you down so you can wind out of a position, etc.
It's all good though...we luv us sum vanilla ice grillin you.
You also like to agree/use stats when they support your view point, and dismiss them as "stats don't tell the whole story" when they don't support your opinion.
Whatever. Everyone wants to be right. Who doesn't?
You DO however alter your style and emphases depending on your argument, depend upon hyperbolic statements that don't pin you down so you can wind out of a position
so depending on how strongly i feel about my position my language/style may change
agreed
and i would argue that hyperbolic statements lock you more into a position not give you an out of one....see sean taylor
You also like to agree/use stats when they support your view point, and dismiss them as "stats don't tell the whole story" when they don't support your opinion.
not the same stats tho...some stats are meaningless like most defensive football stats...other stats carry quite a bit of meaning like many baseball numbers....so if a stat applies to my argument of course i would use it...and if someone else throws out a meaningless number i will call it out
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 21, 2007, 02:58:59 PM
so depending on how strongly i feel about my position my language/style may change
It's more like you change both your level of denseness with regards to the opinions of others as well as your level of exaggeration with regards to your own posts. You are very creative in finding ways to disagree.
It's more like you change both your level of denseness with regards to the opinions of others as well as your level of exaggeration with regards to your own posts.
dending on how strongly i feel about my position i totally agree with you
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 21, 2007, 03:02:40 PM
not the same stats tho...some stats are meaningless like most defensive football stats...other stats carry quite a bit of meaning like many baseball numbers....so if a stat applies to my argument of course i would use it...and if someone else throws out a meaningless number i will call it out
ha!
One thing you do very well is make other people's arguments for them.
you also love to be the center of attention, and boy o boy do we oblige...
hey eveyrone, let's talk about vigy some more!!
most stats are meaningless, i like to base my opinions off of what i see.
(Regarding IGYs non-stop argumentative approach)
I'm trying to decide whether he's done a "heck of a job for the board" or a "nice job for the board". I'd really hate for anyone to read into it too much.
then again, if he's done a "nice job for the board" the front office obviously won't bring him back next year.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 21, 2007, 02:41:02 PM
Is IGY now arguing that his style is non-argumentative?
This is the same guy who agreed with me about a point I was making in another thread, but argued the accuracy of my statement. :-D
IGY, your black I met you before. don't try to confuse them anymore.