Pink slips will probably start being handed out tomorrow. Who's getting fired?
Jim Mora - he's probably outta there
Romeo Crennel - rumors swirling that he might be gone after only two seasons
Jack Del Rio - does Wayne Weaver pull the plug on him?
Nick Saban - does he head to the Crimson Tide despite saying he doesn't want the job?
Art Shell - Crazy Al is the owner...who knows what he will do
Bill Cowher - he'll probably resign
Bill Parcells - will Jerrah bring him back? Will Parcells retire? Dude sounded like a beaten man today.
Joseph Coaching Angel Jackson Gibbs - Will he resign? Doubtful.
Jon Gruden - He's massively overrated and just finished 4-12...will he be back?
Tom Coughlin - done
Dennis Green - done
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UPDATES
Dennis Green - fired
Jim Mora - fired
Nick Saban - resigned to take Alabama job
Bill Cowher - resigned
Art Shell - fired
Pretty sure Shooter McGavin will be back, but the Jags will can him if he doesn't make the playoffs next season.
Mora is already fired. It just wasn't announced yet.
QuoteTIDE OFFER ROLLING TO SABAN SOON
Gred Bedard of the Palm Beach Post reports that the University of Alabama is about to offer its vacant head coaching gig to Dolphins coach Nick Saban.
Saban reportedly rejected an offer from the Tide several weeks ago. After also being rejected by West Virginia coach Rich Rodriguez, the Crimson Tide's coaching search has gone dark amid speculation and widespread rumors that another effort would be made to land Saban.
Bedard also reports that the package to be extended by Alabama will be "so overwhelming that university officials are confident he might take it."
The prior offer that Saban rejected reportedly was worth more than $50 million over 10 years, but those numbers were debunked by numerous other sources and reports. This time around, however, the offer could approach that original magnitude.
QuoteROONEYS EXPECT COACH CHIN TO PACK IT IN
Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that the ownership of the Steelers expects long-time coach Bill Cowher to call it quits not long after the 2006 season ends with the team's Sunday afternoon game in Cincinnati.
This report essentially confirms that the announcement to which Cowher referred several days ago likely won't be that he's staying, since the only way that he would be staying for 2007, the final year of his contract, would be with a contract extension.
Bouchette also reports that the Rooneys have compiled a list of potential replacements. The candidates could include Pitt coach Dave Wannstedt, whom we first identified as a potential candidate (to much wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth from Steelers fans) on October 19. We initially had heard when Wannstedt took the Pitt job two years ago that part of the attraction was the possibility of replacing Cowher.
Other candidates include Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, a Pittsburgh native, and current offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt and offensive line coach Russ Grimm.
Though not mentioned by Bouchette, there is some buzz that former Steelers defensive coordinator and former Saints coach Jim Haslett will get serious consideration for the job, since he would be able to make good use of defensive personnel that were selected specifically for the 3-4, zone-blitzing scheme that the team has been using for years.
Another former Steelers assistant whose name is getting tossed around in his current locale is Bengals coach Marvin Lewis. Though Lewis is a Pittsburgh native and a member of Cowher's initial staff, we don't see Lewis returning to the 'Burgh, for two reasons. First, Lewis is under contract with one of the Steelers' arch-rivals for four more years. Second, Lewis has presided over a roster chock full of guys who have been on the wrong side of the law, something that will repel, not attract, the Rooneys or Steelers fans. Heck, when rookie receiver Santurdio was arrested twice in three weeks earlier this year, there was a strong outcry from the locals that the team should rescind their rights to the first-round pick.
Green's gone.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/01/bc.fbn.cardinals.greenf.ap/index.html
cardinals were not who he thought they were lolmfaoz
Quote from: phattymatty on January 01, 2007, 12:39:06 PM
cardinals were not who he thought they were lolmfaoz
And they let him off the hook
Falcons just fired Jim Mora, Jr.
QuoteFALCONS RELEASE JIM MORA FROM CONTRACT
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga.
The Atlanta Falcons today announced that head coach Jim Mora has been released from the remaining two years of his contract.
Mora, 45, was named the club's 12th head coach in Falcons history on January 9, 2004 . He compiled a 26-22 regular season record during his three seasons as head coach.
"This was an extremely difficult decision for us," said Falcons owner & CEO Arthur Blank. "We had the highest hopes and aspirations for a long run with Jim as our coach, but we feel this decision is in the best long-term interests of our franchise. I have great respect for Jim's passion for the game, and we wish Jim and his family all of the best."
Bwahahaha! :yay
I guess he won't get to see 4 NFCCGs with the Falcons. :yay :yay :yay :yay
Now he can pursue his job with Washington in peace.
Blank didn't have the balls to announce it. He made Mora do the press conference himself. Mora proceeded to rattle off all kinds of "highlights"...
-- I led the team to their 3rd division title EVER!
-- I led the team to their 2nd conference championship game EVER!
-- In my 3 years, we had the 4th-most wins in the NFC!
-- We led the league in rushing for the 3rd straight year!
-- Vick completed 20 TD passes!
What a douche. And yet other teams are so desperate I wouldn't be surprised to see one give Playoffs Jr. a second chance.
What a loser. Pathetic.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on January 01, 2007, 01:23:14 PM
I guess he won't get to see 4 NFCCGs with the Falcons. :yay :yay :yay :yay
Exactly what I was thinking.
Mora would be better as a college coach IMO.
University of Washington, perhaps?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2716540 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2716540)
Watch the video. It's hysterical. What a douchebag.
:-D
http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/coach?coachId=37
Quote from: phattymatty on January 01, 2007, 12:39:06 PM
cardinals were not who he thought they were lolmfaoz
Bwaahahahahaaaa!! Good one. :yay
Shooter McGavin cans 5 Jags coaches. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2717875&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines) Doesn't seem like his own job is in danger this offseason.
Mortensen is reporting that Saban is taking the Alabama job
QuoteBilly Davis to be Fired?
Tuesday, January 2, 2007 at 22:54:58 PT - Printer-friendly version
Source: 49erswebzone.com
According to Damon Bruce, a sports personality on KNBR, Billy Davis will be relieved of his duties tomorrow. This is based on a "reliable source" inside the 49ers organization. There is no word as to his replacement.
Billy Davis is in his second year as 49ers defensive coordinator. Many called for his release earlier this year but Nolan supported his defensive coordinator despite many blowout losses to opponents such as San Diego, Chicago, and Kansas City.
Nolan, a defensive minded coach, pretty much co-coordinated the defense this season, yet there is no indication as to his duties if a new coordinator is hired.
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 03, 2007, 12:40:38 AM
Mortensen is reporting that Saban is taking the Alabama job
smart move. take the money and go back to doing something you were good at.
QuotePOSTED 1:20 p.m. EST, January 4, 2007
SHELL OUT IN OAKLAND
Adam Schefter was right, after all.
A league source tells us that the Oakland Raiders are firing coach Art Shell. Today.
More to come.
QuoteRaiders | Shell to be fired?
Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:00:56 -0800
KFFL has learned Oakland Raiders head coach Art Shell is meeting Thursday, Jan. 4, with team owner/general managing partner Al Davis to discuss Shell's future with the team. Nothing has been determined yet as to whether Shell will be fired
I'm in Oakland. Should I be rioting??
Cowher's told his assistants that he's done. Chaos ensues here in Pittsburgh.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 04, 2007, 08:20:19 PM
Cowher's told his assistants that he's done. Chaos ensues here in Pittsburgh.
Ha.
Get Cowher.
Cowher will be coaching in Philadelphia in 2008. Unfortunately it will be on the taterskins sideline.
Steelers are holding a 1PM PC tomorrow. Top candidates to fill his spot are OC Whisenhunt and OL coach Russ Grimm. Amazing that the Steelers have only had two coaches since 69'
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 04, 2007, 08:36:59 PM
Steelers are holding a 1PM PC tomorrow. Top candidates to fill his spot are OC Whisenhunt and OL coach Russ Grimm. Amazing that the Steelers have only had two coaches since 69'
They should sign Wannstedt. Because he's good.
lollerskates
Pastabelly's take on the Chin leaving Pittsburgh. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2720242)
Goddamn, it's hard to believe he's been coaching the Stillers for 15 years.
Sounds like Shell getting canned is a done deal. I'm sure that Al Davis firing one puppet with no real power and hiring another puppet with no real power is exactly what that team needs.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 04, 2007, 10:16:14 PMGoddamn, it's hard to believe he's been coaching the Stillers for 15 years.
Yup, and now Jeff Fisher has the longest tenure (took over in-season in 1994), followed by Shanahan in 1995. Reid, Billick and Holmgren began with their new teams in 1999 and Belichick took over NE in 2000. Every other team in the NFL has changed head coaches at least once in the last 5 years....
Quote from: Diomedes on January 04, 2007, 08:08:33 PM
I'm in Oakland. Should I be rioting??
you should be duckin bullets
This would be comical (http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9905860)
Quote•An outside-the-box idea for Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga, who requested suggestions from the media during his press conference:
Interview Deion Sanders for the vacant head coaching job.
Sound ridiculous to hire a former player with no coaching experience? No more ridiculous than hiring former NBA player Avery Johnson with no coaching experience. All he did was lead the Dallas Mavericks to the NBA championship series. Mavericks owner Mark Cuban thought outside the box, and was rewarded for it. Huizenga could be as well.
Don't look now, but Deion Sanders seems 'primed' and ready to enter the coaching arena. Deion would love to break into coaching, love to do it in Miami and would succeed in that area just as he has succeeded in all others. If Huizenga is unwilling to take my word for it, fine. But he should talk to Sanders and see for himself.
Certainly established coaches haven't worked for the Dolphins, and Sanders couldn't do any worse. And the guess is he'd do markedly better.
There is no way in hell that Deion could transition from being a commentator to a Head Coach with no prior coaching experience.
If Miami wants to take that shot, by all means go for it. But I have a feeling he would be a horrible head coach. No one would take him seriously.
The Avery Johnson comparsion is bunk. Avery was a very heady PG who knew how to play the game. And everyone knows that a good PG is like another coach on the floor. Deion was a CB and punt returner. The levels of knowledge are not even comparable.
plus Avery Johnson was an assistant for a few years before he was a head coach
Signing Deion to do something he's incapable of doing sounds like something Dan Snyder would do.
Oh, right.
There is a HUGE difference between a former basketball player jumping into coaching and a former football player jumping into coaching. In fact, I can't even believe that a literate person who (presumably) has watched both sports who would make the comparison.
True. The analogy is ridiculous on his face. Plus, as SunMo pointed out, his analogy is false from the outset. Avery Johnson was an assistant coach for at least a year before taking on the role as head coach.
Adam Schefter is usually pretty good, but he's way off base there, no doubt. Wayne Huizenga wouldn't touch that idea with a ten-foot pole.
Last year... he made a little noise around here mentioning that he'd like to coach the Falcons.
Apparently, Deion is serious about this coaching shtein. :-D
Not serious enough to go out and coach a little league team maybe volunteer as an assistant coach at a high school?
I don't know..maybe he's done something like this and I don't know it because I don't give a shtein about him.
But I bet all the same that he's only serious about getting his name into papers, onto tv lips.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 04, 2007, 08:39:10 PM
lollerskates
That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever read...and one of the funniest.
Only the biggest dumbass in Football would hire the Neon Hotdog. Look out Redkins when the football Messiah gives it up.
Ahhh, I know it won't happen, but it would be pure joy to see it!
Quote from: hbionic on January 05, 2007, 07:45:17 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 04, 2007, 08:39:10 PM
lollerskates
That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever read...and one of the funniest.
(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l108/QBEagles/lollerskates.gif)
You know Deion gave Schefter a wad o' cash on the set of the NFL Network to write that. "Get my name out there" he probably said.
That would be dumb as hell. But comical.
QB, that's awesome.
I will quietly mentally rub one out to that. Ok, I'm done.
Thanks.
Quote from: hbionic on January 05, 2007, 10:56:09 PM
QB, that's awesome.
I will quietly mentally rub one out to that. Ok, I'm done.
Thanks.
We should take a moment to give credit to SunMo, who first brought the term and the graphic to :CF.
Thanks a million, buddy!
I think it would be a great idea to make Deion a coach. I am for it 100%.
The Coaching Deathwatch Thread
Crazy Al is interested in Coughlin per Mort.
I always wondered what the infatuation with Coughlin was. I never thought he was as great of a coach as many made him out to be.
He's not. People get hard thinking about him being a draconian icehole towards his players, and they think because he screams a lot and blushes a lot, he's something special.
Maybe if he cried more...
get Coughlin!
to come back to the Eagles as WR coach. ha
Peter King says the Cardinals want Ron Rivera.....
I think tonight, Romo made it appropriate to officially put Bill Parcells in this thread... :-D
Biff might have to call it quits after that. That was just brutal for him. And it made my loins tingle.
Reading Tuna's lips after the botched snap was priceless...
Bobby Petrino hired by Falcons supposedly.
Quote from: King Cole on January 07, 2007, 08:50:04 PM
Bobby Petrino hired by Falcons supposedly.
linkage (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2723700)
Supposedly... there's going to be an announcement tomorrow. Contract details are being worked out.
He will end up being added to the list of guys who should never have left Louisville, just like John L. Smith.
Petrino hired his OC already....Bengals WR coach Hue Jackson
Also, Jacksonville hired former Arizona State head coach Dirk Koetter as their new OC...
QuoteMARTY OUT IF BOLTS BLOW IT?
John Czarnecki of FOXSports.com reports that, if the Chargers lose on Sunday to the Patriots, coach Marty Schottenheimer will be out of a job.
It's a hell of a reward for a guy who led the team to a 14-2 record in 2006, but it does not surprise us. In the process of clunking together the heads of Schottenheimer and G.M. A.J. Smith as the duo were cat-fighting in the offseason, ownership made it clear that absent a significant improvement in 2006, both of them would be in trouble.
And another playoff one-and-out surely won't be enough to placate ownership, if the Chargers lay an egg against the always-dangerous Pats.
But let's take Czarnecki's report one step farther. We believe that, if the Bolts blow it, Smith could be out the door, too.
Still, the ultimate question that the Spanoseses need to ask themselves is whether they'll be better off in 2007 with the devils that they know, or the devils that they don't. Can a better G.M. and/or coach be found and then hired? In a season where it once seemed that there would be only a couple of head-coaching vacancies, there already are five -- and counting.
Maybe one guy the Chargers can get is Brian Billick. Because we also believe that, if the Ravens fly into a plate-glass window on Saturday against the Colts, owner Steve Bisciotti might show the eight-year coach the door.
With all that said, we think that one guy who could help either of these teams get over the top is Tampa coach Jon Gruden. He has a reputation for energizing a team on a short-term basis, even though the message gets stale after a few years. Though Gruden hasn't been (and likely won't be) fired, a mutual parting wouldn't surprise us.
Then again, if the Glazers get the chance to hijack another team for the two first-rounders, two second-rounders, and $8 million that were forked over to the Raiders five years ago, their opinion of Gruden might dramatically improve.
They're gonna lose, Martyball doesn't work in the playoffs - never has. Hiring Billick if he's fired would be dumb.
QuoteThen again, if the Glazers get the chance to hijack another team for the two first-rounders, two second-rounders, and $8 million that were forked over to the Raiders five years ago, their opinion of Gruden might dramatically improve.
That was the most retarded trade. Ever.
Hardly. Did the Bucs then win a Super Bowl? I seem to recall that they did.
Are you honestly trying to say that winning one Super Bowl is worth two 1st round and two 2nd round draft picks PLUS a ton of money?
I'd give up part of my liver and one kidney for a SB
I'd give up having the Phillies ever make the playoffs again for the Eagles to win one Super Bowl. In fact, I thought I did make that deal 13 years ago. I guess I should call my lawyer.
Quote from: EagleFeva on January 11, 2007, 11:22:51 AM
Are you honestly trying to say that winning one Super Bowl is worth two 1st round and two 2nd round draft picks PLUS a ton of money?
Yes. shtein, the Skins trade those away every year and they won't be sniffing the superbowl any time soon.
im pretty sure feva was being sarcastic
Quote from: EagleFeva on January 11, 2007, 11:22:51 AM
Are you honestly trying to say that winning one Super Bowl is worth two 1st round and two 2nd round draft picks PLUS a ton of money?
Yes x infinity.
QuoteSHERMAN GETS THE CARDINALS JOB
Multiple league sources tell us that the Arizona Cardinals have selected Texans assistant Mike Sherman to be their next head coach. It's not known whether a contract has been finalized, but the word is that Sherman is getting the job.
We'd previously heard that the Cardinals were planning to go with an offensive coach, and that Sherman was the favorite.
The Cardinals were primarily attracted by his experience. He coached the Packers from 2000 through 2005, and also was the General Manager for several seasons.
No coach has been with the franchise for more than six seasons, and the team has won only one postseason game since the Truman administration.
Sherman is the third straight Cardinals coach having recent experience with an NFC team. His predecessor, Dennis Green, coached the Vikings for more than nine seasons, and the guy before Green, Dave McGinnis, had been the defensive coordinator in Chicago.
The Cardinals' latest string of hires doesn't include a former Lions coach, since even the Cardinals aren't that desperate
He was an idiot.
the Cardinals are a team that i actually want to do well, for whatever reason. this ensures that will not happen for another 3 years at least
QuoteCARDS HIRE WHISENHUNT
So much for a full-blown round of "second interviews."
Rebuffed by Texans assistant Mike Sherman, who reportedly didn't get the offer he was supposed to get because he wanted $4 million a year, the Cardinals called his failed hiring session a "second interview" -- and then had a "second interview" with Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt.
And Whisenhunt's second interview is the last second interview. Per Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, Whisenhunt has agreed to a deal to become the coach of the Cardinals.
The move opens the door for the Steelers to hire offensive line coach Russ Grimm. But the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reports that former Steelers head coach Bill Cowher went to bat for neither Grimm nor Whisenhunt, endorsing instead former Steelers offensive coordinator Chan Gailey when Cowher was asked this past week for his input.
That's gonna be huge news here in Pittsburgh. Wiz was easily the favorite candidate of Steelers fans and the sportswriters and talkers around town.
Mora Jr will have another interview with the Dolphins
The Cardinals will never turn that franchise around until they get someone with a decent defensive head on their shoulders. Hiring an offensive coordinator will please their stud WRs, franchise QB and hall of fame running back, but it won't win them any more games.
They tried it with McGinnis but he stunk too
Considering how the Cardinals used to butt-farg the Eagles at least once a year when they played in the NFC East, I hope they never win anything.
Quote from: QB Eagles on January 14, 2007, 01:41:26 PM
That's gonna be huge news here in Pittsburgh. Wiz was easily the favorite candidate of Steelers fans and the sportswriters and talkers around town.
You ready for this--according to PFT.com, supposedly, Bill Cowher didn't endorse either of the two assistants for the job--he endorsed Chan Gailey instead.
Cardinals hire = good for fantasy football
Otherwise, who cares.
The Cardinals will suck as long as the Bidwells own 'em.
The Broncos lost their TE coach Tim Brewster, who is about to become head coach at the U. of Minnesota...
"They are who we thought they are!" is interviewing with the Raiders today.
James Lofton is also interviewing with the black and silver.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 16, 2007, 02:20:22 PM
"They are who we thought they are!" is interviewing with the Raiders today.
Green rebuffs Raiders interview (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2733299)
QuoteGreen's stance is that he has enjoyed a long relationship with owner Al Davis and that the organization knows him well and knows his track record in the NFL and that he should not have to interview.
:-D
Wow. What an icehole. I want to give you the keys to my $200 million per year business, and you won't even come and talk to me about it?
No, I think it is more of a case of "No, Al, I won't be your farging token minority interview"
Quote from: Cerevant on January 17, 2007, 12:13:26 PM
No, I think it is more of a case of "No, Al, I won't be your farging token minority interview"
*ding ding*
Quote from: Cerevant on January 17, 2007, 12:13:26 PM
No, I think it is more of a case of "No, Al, I won't be your farging token minority interview"
yeah, that's pretty obviously what's going on. good for Green.
Does Denny Green even deserve an interview?
His last four teams have gone 5-11, 6-10, 5-11 & 5-11. For someone who hasn't had success during the past four seasons as a head coach, he's being pretty fricken arrogant about his "record."
To be fair he was coaching the Cardinals. Not even God himself could turn that franchise around. He probably wouldn't want to either.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 17, 2007, 01:48:13 PM
Does Denny Green even deserve an interview?
His last four teams have gone 5-11, 6-10, 5-11 & 5-11. For someone who hasn't had success during the past four seasons as a head coach, he's being pretty fricken arrogant about his "record."
That's probably his point. He knew his skin color and not his coaching skill was the reason Davis requested the interview.
Quote from: FFatPatt on January 17, 2007, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 17, 2007, 01:48:13 PM
Does Denny Green even deserve an interview?
His last four teams have gone 5-11, 6-10, 5-11 & 5-11. For someone who hasn't had success during the past four seasons as a head coach, he's being pretty fricken arrogant about his "record."
That's probably his point. He knew his skin color and not his coaching skill was the reason Davis requested the interview.
Didn't even think of that. Who wouldn't want a free, all expenses paid trip to Oakland?
I suppose so. His comments could be taken one of two ways:
1. An interview is beneath me, so farg off.
2. I know I'm not a serious candidate so don't waste my time.
Either way, him refusing an interview seems a bit presumptuous. He could have gone in there, blown the old fossil's doors off, and gotten the gig. That is, if he even wanted it to begin with.
(http://www.profootballtalk.com/MartyBath.jpg)
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 17, 2007, 02:10:00 PM
That is, if he even wanted it to begin with.
He just got done working for one worthless franchise. I don't think he wants to go work for Crazy Old Al right after that.
Cam Cameron takes the Dolphins job (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2736313)
First Denny Green turns down the opportunity to interview with the Raiders. Now Steve Sarkisian turns down the job! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2736706)
QuoteSTEELERS PICK TOMLIN
Michael Silver of Sports Illustrated reports that the Pittsburgh Steelers have chosen Vikings defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin to be the team's next head coach.
We've been banging the gong for Tomlin throughout the process, and we're glad to see that the Steelers picked him despite the fact that we endorsed him so strongly.
Tomlin beat out Steelers offensive line coach Russ Grimm and Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.
More to come.
Rick Kotite just can't get a job.
Here's the SI story. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/01/20/steelers.coach/index.html)
People in Pittsburgh love their defense and I'm sure there will be some grumbling if Tomlin installs a 4-3, cover 2 defense.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2007, 02:37:03 PM
STEELERS PICK TOMLIN
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton approve of this message.
Tomlin denies the story.
Now official.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 20, 2007, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 20, 2007, 02:37:03 PM
STEELERS PICK TOMLIN
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton approve of this message.
I don't think those two have had any effect on the hiring of talented African-American coaches like Tomlin. They do have a lot to do with under-qualified African-American coaches being brought in for humiliating token interviews, however.
Rumor is that Playoffs Jr. is going to be the Seahawks DB coach. Looks like he'll end up back in Washington after all.
Now one Pit paper is saying Grimm got the job (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_489602.html)
Crazy.
QuoteThe Pittsburgh Tribune-Review is reporting that Grimm will be hired as the Steelers' new coach, but ESPN is sticking by its reporting that Tomlin will succeed Cowher.
Well, someone will have egg on their face come Monday.
Incidentally, the Steelers beat man at the other main Pittsburgh paper has this to say:
QuoteNo head coach contract yet, Steelers say
Sunday, January 21, 2007
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Amid conflicting reports that the Steelers have chosen either Mike Tomlin or Russ Grimm as their next head coach, team spokesman Dave Lockett issued a statement this morning that cleared up little.
"At this point and time, the Steelers have not concluded a contract agreement with a new head coach, nor do we expect to do so today. There will be no other announcements from this office today."
Personally I trust Bouchette when it comes to Steelers matters.
Personally, I think they should just hire that mulatto guy Mike Grimm and get it over with.
Mora Jr was hired by the Seahawks as their secondary coach...
QuoteFINALLY, TOMLIN
Jay Glazer of FOX and Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press report that the Steelers finally have advised Vikings defensive coordinator that he is the choice to become the next coach of the team.
Glazer says that a contract has not yet been negotiated. Jensen says that an offer has been made, and the offer has been accepted.
In an unrelated development, Mike Prisuta of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review has received an offer to work at a local Subway store, and the offer has been accepted.
Parcells calls it quits...
Ha!!
Quote from: EagleFeva on January 22, 2007, 12:02:33 PM
Parcells calls it quits...
Fact, or speculation? Hasn't hit Google News yet, but I know you have sources :)
Fact. Check your TV. It's on NFL Network.
HA!
TO Killed Bill.
Love it. He waits until several other coaches have been picked up, and quits. Ha. farg you Jerrah.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 22, 2007, 12:11:11 PM
Love it. He waits until several other coaches have been picked up, and quits. Ha. farg you Jerrah.
Linky (http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/DAL/9947249)
Actually, given the lead-up, I'm guessing Bill said "TO or Me" and Jerrah loves him sum TO.
another link:
http://blog.dallascowboys.com/blogs/the_rant/archive/2007/1/22/354505.aspx
Get Parcells. :paranoid
(http://www.readingeagle.com/blog/zeke/archives/pair/Cowboy%20duo.jpg)
Just another victim. :-D
Ha. That's great, Feva. :yay
Ron Rivera will fall right into their laps if they want him... :-\
is switzer available?
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 22, 2007, 12:28:05 PM
Ron Rivera will fall right into their laps if they want him... :-\
That's what I thought as soon as I heard the news. Wouldn't be surprised if Jerrah already had an illegal deal with Rivera.
Some of the names that are popping up from what I've read so far--
Wade Phillips, DC, SD--because of his familiarity with the 3-4 defense
Jim Mora, Seattle--don't know if this is viable any longer because he is now where he wants to be
Norv Turner, OC, SF--can he polish Romo like he did Aikman?
Mike Martz, OC, Detroit--again, a guy who developed Warner and Bulger
Bob Stoops, Oklahoma--not as big as he once was, but then again, Jones wants someone he can control
Ron Rivera, DC, CHI--has to wait until after the SB to interview him
Stoops and Rivera are the only ones on that list that I wouldn't like very much. The other one are guys I would want to play twice a season.
I'm not particularly interested in seeing what Norv Turner could do with Jones and Barber. He doesn't mind overworking a back.
I have a feeling that Wade Phillips is the number one guy right now. At least that is what their fans were talking about on their sites these last few weeks. They were saying that Bill was holding them hostage and that there were rumors, as Bobby pointed out, that Phillips was a guy who Jerrah had at the top of the list.
Turner is a guy who Jerry loves. And so does Aikman and Troy said that he would endorse Norv to Jones.
Mike Martz and Jim Mora would turn that team into a bigger circus. Although Mora could be a guy because he has a past relationship with Owens. He was the guy who was touting TO when the Eagles signed him and said he as a good guy.
I'd like to see them get Bob Stoops. Or any college coach for that matter because the recent track record of college guys coming in isn't so good (Spurrier, Saban, etc)
The list of prospective coaches for the Cowboys is underwhelming.
If Wade Phillips is their frontrunner, by all means take him. He doesn't really strike fear into the opposition. He might be a good DC, and he might have had a good season or two in Buffalo as a HC, but then he floundered.
I don't understand the trend of giving a failed head coach another shot. Especially when that coach has shown that they are more capable of just focusing on one aspect of the game and doing that well (e.g. being a DC as opposed to an HC). I guess it is that whole 'promote people past their level of competence' and then watch them fail -- but why someone would repeat the cycle...
Quote from: Eaglez on January 22, 2007, 11:45:20 PM
I don't understand the trend of giving a failed head coach another shot. Especially when that coach has shown that they are more capable of just focusing on one aspect of the game and doing that well (e.g. being a DC as opposed to an HC). I guess it is that whole 'promote people past their level of competence' and then watch them fail -- but why someone would repeat the cycle...
(http://images.sportsnetwork.com/football/nfl/allsport/patriots/belichick_bill5.jpg)
Les Miles from LSU is another guy to watch out for in Dallas. Jerry likes him.
Also, Bob Stoops was in Dallas to recruit a player for OU and reportedly had dinner with Jerrah.
Quote from: Eaglez on January 22, 2007, 11:45:20 PM
The list of prospective coaches for the Cowboys is underwhelming.
If Wade Phillips is their frontrunner, by all means take him. He doesn't really strike fear into the opposition. He might be a good DC, and he might have had a good season or two in Buffalo as a HC, but then he floundered.
I don't understand the trend of giving a failed head coach another shot. Especially when that coach has shown that they are more capable of just focusing on one aspect of the game and doing that well (e.g. being a DC as opposed to an HC). I guess it is that whole 'promote people past their level of competence' and then watch them fail -- but why someone would repeat the cycle...
Because either there aren't enough quality assistants out there or the ones who are haven't been in place very long--mind you that didn't stop Pittsburgh from hiring Mike Tomlin. Now you have the Riaders hiring Monte Kiffin's son--he's all of 31 and was the co-OC at USC.
USC's offensive coordinator (Monte Kiffin's son) was named head coach of the Raiders. Per ESPN.
Dallas rumors starting at Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cowher :-D
I was a little surprised, but not reallly. I thought he was burnt out after '05 and was surprised he hung around to begin with. Watching that team flop around like a bunch of seals stranded on the beach for the last month of the season must have been like having a root canal over and over again. Besides, he's 65. You can't do it forever, and there aren't many coaches that go 40 years almost nonstop. Football's a young man's game and everyone has to give in to father time eventually.
Successor? Pbbt. Wait and see I guess. If the Titans hadn't come back to have a passable season with Young and picked up Fisher's option he would have been a candidate. If it was next year it could have been Cowher. Jerry's said more than once he's going to remain committed to the 3-4 so that probably narrows it down to someone that's worked with it or is comfortable with using it for a defense. That's why Phillips name has popped up prominently. There's a longstanding rumor that he had a handshake deal with Stoops to be the next coach whenever the time came, but with what's happened with recent college coaches, that may not be as good an idea.
You've already got most of the rumored guys listed, but Dan Reeves is another one that's floated around. Ties to the organization, experienced, has the name and so on. I say enough with coaches that are 60+ with pre-existing heart conditions. There are some that think that Tony Sparano could get a shot, a few pining for Jimmy to return, and some that think one of the Ryan brothers would work. A couple have called mentioned Russ Grimm as well. The consensus on the board I frequent says Phillips, and I'm inclined to agree with them simply because of the reasons I listed.
Quote from: EJ72 on January 23, 2007, 01:19:49 AMJerry's said more than once he's going to remain committed to the 3-4 ....
The owner dictates the base defense? Holy Christ, that's ass backwards.
Jones should just quit the pretense and name himself head coach.
With Romo at QB, who needs a coach? He's in the Pro Bowl, baby!! He'll do it all himself!!
True, sometimes it does work -- like with Belichick. But I just have a picture of the Dom Capers, Norv Turners, Ray Rhodes (with his short stint in GB), Marty Morninweg and the like in my mind when I think of that. Capers is a decent DC, but he was horrible as a head coach. Norv Turner is a very good offensive coordinator, but he was pretty bad as a head coach, Ray Rhodes has shown to be a good DC, but being a head coach was not his strong suit, and Marty has shown both in San Francisco and now in Philly to be a good OC, but was a pretty bad head coach.
Its the head coaches that demonstrated to be very good at managing certain portions of the game, but not necessarily being a great head coach and having oversight over the entire coaching staff that I don't get. Belichick, I think, is more of the exception rather than the rule.
Quote from: Eaglez on January 23, 2007, 11:03:54 AMNorv Turner is a very good offensive coordinator, but he was pretty bad as a head coach...
In Snyderville and Davisland. I'm not convinced that he can't be a good HC.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 23, 2007, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: Eaglez on January 23, 2007, 11:03:54 AMNorv Turner is a very good offensive coordinator, but he was pretty bad as a head coach...
In Snyderville and Davisland. I'm not convinced that he can't be a good HC.
Possibly -- he wasn't put in the best positions to succeed under those owners.
Also, Mike Sherman and Dick Jauron come to mind. Good as respective coordinators, but not so much as head coaches. Jauron had that one good year with the Bears, but everyone knew that was a fluke. I think that was the season the Bears went 13-3 but won about half those games on plays towards the end of the game either on account of stupidty by the other team or just luck in being at the right place at the right time (i.e. they never dominated a team based on sheer ability, talent, or better execution).
With head coaches and coordinators both being paid comparatively the same, and with coordinators having less of a responsibility, I don't see the problem with being a coordinator over being a head coach. Maybe the prestige of being a head coach, but that is even diminished now adays.
Please, please, please let it be Mike Martz. Please.
I lived with that ass-clown here, and never had a dull moment laughing at his expense to all my Rams-fans friends. Which, by the way, are now back to being Cardinals fans.
Quote from: EJ72 on January 23, 2007, 01:19:49 AM
I was a little surprised, but not reallly. I thought he was burnt out after '05 and was surprised he hung around to begin with. Watching that team flop around like a bunch of seals stranded on the beach for the last month of the season must have been like having a root canal over and over again. Besides, he's 65. You can't do it forever, and there aren't many coaches that go 40 years almost nonstop. Football's a young man's game and everyone has to give in to father time eventually.
Successor? Pbbt. Wait and see I guess. If the Titans hadn't come back to have a passable season with Young and picked up Fisher's option he would have been a candidate. If it was next year it could have been Cowher. Jerry's said more than once he's going to remain committed to the 3-4 so that probably narrows it down to someone that's worked with it or is comfortable with using it for a defense. That's why Phillips name has popped up prominently. There's a longstanding rumor that he had a handshake deal with Stoops to be the next coach whenever the time came, but with what's happened with recent college coaches, that may not be as good an idea.
You've already got most of the rumored guys listed, but Dan Reeves is another one that's floated around. Ties to the organization, experienced, has the name and so on. I say enough with coaches that are 60+ with pre-existing heart conditions. There are some that think that Tony Sparano could get a shot, a few pining for Jimmy to return, and some that think one of the Ryan brothers would work. A couple have called mentioned Russ Grimm as well. The consensus on the board I frequent says Phillips, and I'm inclined to agree with them simply because of the reasons I listed.
Looks like you're right about Sparano, EJ. Apparently he's interviewing today.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 23, 2007, 12:53:22 AM
USC's offensive coordinator (Monte Kiffin's son) was named head coach of the Raiders. Per ESPN.
i just listened to about 45 seconds of his press conference. Dude sounds like he's trying to give a book report on something he bought the cliff notes to and is hoping to squeeze by with his supposed confidence. Completely uncomfortable with plenty of fluctuation in stressing things throughought his sentences. Good luck Raiders fans.
Russ Grimm left Pittsburgh and joined Whisenhunt in Arizona....same position
Arizona also hired former 49ers DC Billy Davis as their new LB coach
doggy?
Quote from: Mad-Lad on January 23, 2007, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 23, 2007, 12:53:22 AM
USC's offensive coordinator (Monte Kiffin's son) was named head coach of the Raiders. Per ESPN.
i just listened to about 45 seconds of his press conference. Dude sounds like he's trying to give a book report on something he bought the cliff notes to and is hoping to squeeze by with his supposed confidence. Completely uncomfortable with plenty of fluctuation in stressing things throughought his sentences. Good luck Raiders fans.
I watched a good part of it online out of curiousity until I couldn't take it anymore. He sounded like an ass. Talked about how he's getting tickets for his wife and two small children in the black hole, how the team would play "happy", play hard, and they would play well because the practices would be so hard gameday would be easy. Something like that. Tried like hell to make himself sound like an authority figure/validate himself. Didn't work to me. You never can tell, but I think he's just a lamb being led to slaughter.
I saw this picture at a Raider forum. It's a
real picture, and was taken right after a reporter asked Kiffen how it felt to be in the black hole for coaches, something like that. Very appropriate for a "coaching deathwatch" thread.
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/01/24/sports/24raiders.1.600.jpg) :o :poison :-D
Dio, the 3-4 comment he made was back awhile but since the initial interest indicated Phillips, there's no reason to believe he's changed his thinking and yes, it's backasswards. Plenty of Dallas fans are waiting for the day when he hands control over to his sons.
I think some of the assistants were interviewed as a "courtesy". Indicators seem to point to Garrett, Phillips or Turner. Garrett evidently came into interview as the OC, but blew them away with his views on offense and defense. I'm not sold on Turner, but I was pretty sure neither Washington or Oakland would work out for him. Phillips? If he didn't know the 3-4, you probably wouldn't hear his name. Wait and see I guess.
AL Davis needs to be in a horror flick.
Al Davis = (http://www.dailybubble.com/archives/ugliest-dog-ever-3-thumb.jpg)
Quote from: MURP on January 25, 2007, 06:00:21 PM
AL Davis needs to be in a horror flick.
Al Davis needs to be in a coffin (http://www.ghoulpool.us/?page_id=24#drdeath).
Quote from: MURP on January 25, 2007, 06:00:21 PM
AL Davis needs to be in a horror flick.
He's starring in one that's still in production. It's called "The Oakland Raiders:2003-2006". No release date as it's ongoing and the title isn't final, but I hear it ends with him asphyxiating some young coach with a silver and black foam axe and being committed to an asylum.
Quote from: Quasimoto on January 25, 2007, 06:39:32 PM
Al Davis = (http://www.dailybubble.com/archives/ugliest-dog-ever-3-thumb.jpg)
:-D
Put a Raiders jacket on him.
mort says ron rivera could become the d coordinator in dallas, with norv taking the head coaching job...mort said it gives rivera a bigger spotlight to eventually get a head coaching job.
fire jj...hire rivera.
Quote from: hunt on February 05, 2007, 08:45:47 AM
mort says ron rivera could become the d coordinator in dallas, with norv taking the head coaching job...mort said it gives rivera a bigger spotlight to eventually get a head coaching job.
fire jj...hire rivera.
Rivera wouldn't leave the Bears to come here and be the DC, with no hope of being the HC.
Fire JJ, hire Rivera, force Andy to take a year off, let Rivera act as head coach. Marty can run the offense, and Heckert can run the personnel. Rivera can bring in whomever he wants to help him with the defense.
Not going to happen either, but it's more plausible than Rivera agreeing to leave a great defense to coach one that's falling apart a bit.
and plus, Dallas has the personnel for the 3-4 and that's not what Rivera coaches.
but mort said.
oh, yeah.
Quote from: hunt on February 05, 2007, 08:45:47 AM
mort says ron rivera could become the d coordinator in dallas, with norv taking the head coaching job...mort said it gives rivera a bigger spotlight to eventually get a head coaching job.
fire jj...hire rivera.
Fire Andy, Hire Rivera.
The whole Bears coaching staff was lame last night. From Lovie on down.
Quote from: King Cole on February 05, 2007, 05:38:36 PM
The whole Bears coaching staff was lame last night. From Lovie on down.
Thus proving that blacks can't coach in the NFL.
Quote from: Cerevant on February 05, 2007, 09:30:47 AM
Quote from: hunt on February 05, 2007, 08:45:47 AM
mort says ron rivera could become the d coordinator in dallas, with norv taking the head coaching job...mort said it gives rivera a bigger spotlight to eventually get a head coaching job.
fire jj...hire rivera.
Fire Andy, Hire Rivera.
The overwhelming sentiment in chicago is that they are praying that Rivera gets hired away by someone.
Why, because the Bears' D looked bad against the Colts in the Super Bowl?
That defense really doesn't have a lot of absolute studs, and he had them playing lights-out all season.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 06, 2007, 10:41:46 AM
Why, because the Bears' D looked bad against the Colts in the Super Bowl?
That defense really doesn't have a lot of absolute studs, and he had them playing lights-out all season.
From the outside, true. But from their view, as with our on the birds....
The defense has started out strong each of the last 2 seasons only to fizzle. And into the playoffs they have lost because of the defense. (Carolina last season beat them with a fairly time consuming drive to put the game away in the 4th, and both the NFFCG and SB this season).Chicago fans see him as soft and unimaginative in the playoffs and has an inability to make in game adjustments.
Having a lot of friends in the Chicago area, i hear this talk repeatedly.
Mad-Lad is in Chicago, iirc.
Cowboys | Phillips the choice as new head coach
Wed, 7 Feb 2007 23:25:15 -0800
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports league and Dallas Cowboys sources have said San Diego Chargers defensive coordinator Wade Phillips will be named the Cowboys' new head coach. Phillips traveled to Dallas during the evening Wednesday, Feb. 7, after learning he was the team's choice. Contract details and signing a contract still need to be finalized but Phillips could be officially introduced as early as Thursday, Feb. 8.
Yippee. :P
Wade Phillips, huh? He's sufficiently small fry to be dominated by Jerrah, so it sounds like a fit. Good luck with Romo. haha.
Good news for the rest of the division.
He's got a lot of defensive talent to work with.
jones basically went the opposite of a parcells
phillips will be the ultimate puppet
0-3 playoff record
AR now has a chance at beating four different Cowboys coaches during his Eagles tenure...
is there any doubt that cowher will be the 5th?
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 08, 2007, 11:33:37 AM
is there any doubt that cowher will be the 5th?
Yes. Ed didn't say 4th different coach Andy would coach against - he actually implied that Andy would have to win to get credit. I think Cowher >>> Andy.
Reid is 1-1 vs Cowher
Quote from: Wingspan on February 08, 2007, 11:48:47 AM
Reid is 1-1 vs Cowher
Yes. One was an OT game with a lot of bogus calls near the end, including an onside kick, that went the way of the Eagles. Cowher was hardly outcoached.
The other was a massacre. The Steelers gave the Eagles their only lopsided loss that year. The other two losses in the regular season were with the starters on the bench, and the Super Bowl.... well... yeah.
andy is 1-1 vs wade phillips as well
i was at the win, what a game that was.
Quote from: SunMo on February 08, 2007, 11:55:18 AM
i was at the win, what a game that was.
When the Eagles beat a Wade Phillips team? Was it the Bills or the Falcons?!? !
i hope you crash into an AIDS tree
How pathetic is Dallas. farging TO is running that team.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 08, 2007, 10:39:59 AM
Good news for the rest of the division.
Exactly what I thought.
Quote from: MDS on February 08, 2007, 05:54:01 PM
How pathetic is Dallas. farging TO is running that team.
No--Jerry Jones secretly wants to coach them--and now he can. What's interesting is the stories flotaing around on PFT.com and the Dallas papers that Phillips spent Tuesday talking to "potential assistant coaches that he'd want to have on his staff". Now, according to the DFW Herald, when Jones interviewed Rivera, it was for the DC position, not head coach position. He's already put a OC in place for Phillips.
All i can picture now is a marionette of Wade Phillips prancing around a football field with Jerry looking down and pulling the strings. What a joke that organization is.
Except Jones will be on the sidelines. Is this the year we finally see him holding pictures sent down from the booth?
Quote from: General_Failure on February 09, 2007, 02:08:14 AM
Except Jones will be on the sidelines. Is this the year we finally see him holding pictures sent down from the boot?
I thought you moved to Austrailia, not Canada ;)
it has a lot more to do with the jones having his sights set on cowher next year than it does him wanting to coach...phillips is a stop gap and because of his age one of the few people that would be willing to take the job under those circumstances
Breaking news on ESPN:
Schottenheimer fired!!
A little late in the game for that isn't it? Maybe Reid will want to go there for a change of scenery and so his boy can get better drugs.
Quote from: BigEd76 on February 12, 2007, 09:28:11 PM
Breaking news on ESPN:
Schottenheimer fired!!
Holy shtein. MartyBall sucks.
Just in case anyone wants to read the article. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2763552)
Unexpected.
It must suck to get fired when you have potentially the best running back of all time, in his prime, on your team.
Getting fired at at any other time is a picnic, though, smart stuff.
lol @ your hatred of munsin
i love it
Schottenheimer got shafted.
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 13, 2007, 09:53:54 AM
Schottenheimer got shafted.
Wrong:
QuoteHis 5-13 playoff record has taken on a life of its own. The loss to the Patriots was his sixth straight in the postseason dating to 1993, and the ninth time a Schottenheimer-coached team lost its opening playoff game. His teams have failed four times to capitalize on the home-field advantage that comes with owning the AFC's No. 1 seed.
That's abysmal. He can't coach his team when it counts.
yeah, but why now? something had to go down between him and AJ Smith.
it also doesn't make sense because they just lost their OC and DC, I would've thought they might want to keep some sort of continuity in the staff.
Schottenheimer farged Smith and didn't have the common courtesy to provide a reach-around. Just classless.
Quote from: FFatPatt on February 13, 2007, 10:00:26 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on February 13, 2007, 09:53:54 AM
Schottenheimer got shafted.
Wrong:
QuoteHis 5-13 playoff record has taken on a life of its own. The loss to the Patriots was his sixth straight in the postseason dating to 1993, and the ninth time a Schottenheimer-coached team lost its opening playoff game. His teams have failed four times to capitalize on the home-field advantage that comes with owning the AFC's No. 1 seed.
That's abysmal. He can't coach his team when it counts.
See... that's just it. They're firing the guy for (mostly) his past issues. 5-13 has nothing to do with the Chargers. Being 0-2 does and losing once with the AFC top seed does. Is that in itself enough to fire a coach after he just won 14 out of 16 games? If he wasn't at odds with the GM... he'd probably still have a job. Who the hell gets fired after a 14-2 season?
Even against the Patriots... that game wasn't really on him. It was his own players making terrible mistakes. Muffing punts, committing personal fouls when they just stopped the offense on 3rd down, the strip after the interception, etc... he coached well enough for them to win if the players hadn't disintegrated. Now I will say that where Marty farged up in that game was challenging that turnover when it was such an obvious play. That cost them a timeout which they ended up needing dearly at the end of the game.
Supposedly, the reason they elected to fire him now is because both coordinators have left for other jobs, not to mention that other assistants on the team seem to be looking to move elsewhere as well. So I guess that the Chargers felt that since the coaching staff is being broken up then they might as well just clean house.
marty ball gone already, wow!
His record in the playoffs is incredibly crappy, but the way he has lost in the playoffs has often not been his fault. Either way he was shafted and it makes zero sense for a team that is so close to winning it all. They have hardly any coaches that remain so they will have to install a new system, it may work like it did for TB, but...
Norv Turner was just named the head coach of the Chargers as per the bottom line on ESPN.
He'll run LT and Turner into the ground.
Come on...there had to be better qualified candidates out these other than Turner and Phillips. Right? :-\
Has coaching in football in general really declined that much in the past five or six years that these retreads get to continue to run franchises into the ground?
Too bad for the Chargers. Turner always had the air of a looser to me.
Bears letting Rivera walk away without a head coaching job (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2771399)
Convenient. Send Jimmy J out to pasture NOW.
I think Turner will do well in San Diego.
Rivera signs on as LB coach for SD.
gotta give credit to the Bears for doing something the Eagles didn't have the balls to do
Quote from: SunMo on February 20, 2007, 08:00:47 AM
gotta give credit to the Bears for doing something the Eagles didn't have the balls to do
Sign/draft quality linebackers?
no get rid of their DC because they thought it was right, even though they were coming off of a SB run
the bears got rid of him because he wants to be caked off and they dont pay coaches like that...dont think they made some kind of brave new world move
apparently da Bears also have another guy in line they like too
Per ESPN Ravens give Billick a 4 year extension
They gave the offensive genious an extension despite having an elderly QB, with no viable backup, below average recievers and no runningback? Oh, and they couldn't even score a single touchdown in the playoffs? Looks like we'll never get rid of Reid. Even when he dies he'll still be the head coach.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2007, 08:22:41 PM
They gave the offensive genious an extension despite having an elderly QB, with no viable backup, below average recievers and no runningback? Oh, and they couldn't even score a single touchdown in the playoffs? Looks like we'll never get rid of Reid. Even when he dies he'll still be the head coach.
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9914/ravens2001xxxvtn1.jpg)
Seven. Years. Ago.
And they haven't sniffed another one since.
And they beat a weak ass Giants team.
Still....they have a ring and the Eagles don't. It's a fair point.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2007, 08:35:09 PM
Seven. Years. Ago.
And they haven't sniffed another one since.
They won a championship and have been regular participants in the playoffs ever since. Second best record in the league this year... He may not be the best coach in the league, but he's more than good enough.
They've missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 6 years (missed 02, 04, 05). Not exactly what I'd call "regular participants."
And the point is that the dude is supposed to be some sort of offensive mastermind yet the Ravens have never had anything even close to a dynamic offense and his evaluation of talent when it comes to offensive skill positions appears to be completely non existant.
I don't see anything he's done over the last few years that warrants a 4 year extention. With a defense as dominant as that one is you'd think he could put an offense on the field that would take just a little bit of the pressure off them.
A championship and making the playoffs half the time would be more than enough to make me happy. Because of the championship. See a theme here?
Billick's ego is too big at times, but one of his balls could kick the shtein out of Andy's whole sack.
I get the thought process. But we're also Eagles fans, most of whom have never seen a championship in our lifetime so any coach who leads this team to a title is pretty much a God. Ravens fans have had a team for like 10 years. I'm not counting all the years they were waiting between the Colts leaving and the Ravens showing up because they were all busy rooting for the taterskins. So Ravens fans are hardly starving for championships because they've got pleny between the Colts, Skins and Ravens.
Point is, his teams have underachieved and the reason for that is because his supposed strong suit (offense) has been the weak link year in and year out.
Championship! Drool drool drool...
My left nut's name is Championship.
That just doesn't make any sense at all, freak.
I just coughed and farted at the same time.
But which one was on purpose.
Neither.
When is an actual coach going to die and this thread become will-titled?
Also, I hate Billick. He's an arrogrant prick who coaches a purple themed team named after a poem.
Brian Billick is probably one of the most overrated coaches in the modern history of earth
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 21, 2007, 08:35:09 PM
Seven. Years. Ago.
And they haven't sniffed another one since.
You asked why he was retained and given an extension. The ring's the reason, Sassy.
Here's something I don't understand:
QuoteUpdated: Feb. 21, 2007, 10:07 PM ET
Smith's agent says talks with Bears have broken down
ESPN.com news services
Barring what Lovie Smith's agent calls an "unforseen breakthrough," the Chicago Bears coach expects to return for the 2007 season without a new contract.
Lovie Smith
Smith
Frank Bauer, Smith's agent, told ESPN's Chris Mortensen that talks between the team and coach were at a "stalemate."
"We're not close, we're not encouraged and based on where talks have gone recently, Lovie will be a free agent after next season," Bauer said on Wednesday night.
Smith has one year remaining on his original contract. He was the league's lowest-paid coach at $1.35 million in 2006 and will remain No. 32 on the paylist at $1.45 million in '07.
Smith suspended contract talks shortly before the playoffs when he led the Bears to their first Super Bowl appearance since 1985 after a 13-3 regular season. Negotiations picked up shortly after the Bears lost to the Colts in the championship game, but Bauer said there were significant gaps on the contract terms between management and the coach.
"It would take an unforseen breakthrough for this to get done," Bauer said. "And we are being more than reasonable in this market."
Coaches that have taken their teams to the Super Bowl, even in a losing effort, are making at least $5 million per year, such as Carolina's John Fox.
The Ravens just signed Brian Billick to a four-year extension. The deal, with one year left on his current contract, is valued at $28.5 million over the next five years, a league source said.
Chris Mortensen is an NFL analyst for ESPN.
The guy's getting paid less than some coordinators do. Just pay the man, already.
The Bears obviously just don't pay coaches.
They were in the Super Bowl last year, and the highest-paid coaching staff in the NFL was last place in their division (the skins)... so maybe they're on to something.
This article is basically a shot at the Skins. The media hates us.
Time to crank this farger up again...
Levy steps down today as Bills GM
PFT reporting that Randy Mueller is out in Miami (no shocker); Cam Cameron has reportedly told the team he will be back and Parcells is going hard after Cowboys scouting director Jeff Ireland as his new GM and will likely have him locked up soon because he will be the GM with personnel say.
Jason Garrett could be a target for the Miami job
Romeo Crennel could also be a guy Parcells wants
Does Coughlin get the axe in NY after Eli and the boys shtein the bed?
Mike Martz will reportedly be fired as the OC in Detroit
Who will coach the Falcons?
I saw Garrett and Jim Caldwell (Colts asst. head coach/QB coach) mentioned for Atlanta
how does marvin lewis still have a job?
Quote from: MDS on December 30, 2007, 10:46:49 PM
how does marvin lewis still have a job?
One word: Bengals.
I'll say it again: There is no way Jerry Jones lets Garrett go.
the Ravens finally fired Brian Billick...about goddamn time
so.....will he get another HC gig? He does have a ring.
Of course, he's an "offensive genius" who never had a good offense in 10 years. That probably won't help him.
WOOOHOOOO!
SO glad he's gone. I can't stand looking at him.
With that said, he'll probably get some gig on TV where I'll be forced to deal with his ugly mug.
Get Billick?
NOOO
YAAAAAAAAAY!
He"ll probably wind up as an offensive coordinator somewhere sort of like Martz
In Philly?
i can see him getting a job in New England next year as some sort of offensive adviser and when they score 10 billion points again he'll scream about how he really is an offensive genius
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 31, 2007, 02:32:27 PM
He"ll probably wind up as an offensive coordinator somewhere sort of like Martz
And probably get shteincanned after two seasons like Martz will be very soon.
Was Billick responsible for acquiring the personnel in Baltimore?
No, that was Ozzie Newsome and I'd give away one nut for him to work in Philly.
The Ravens made it to the playoffs in four of the last nine seasons. Yeah, they won the Super Bowl, but still, 4/9 years is awful.
farg you. I'd take that if one of those trips netted a Lombardi. You're only lying to yourself if you disagree.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 07:16:44 PM
farg you. I'd take that if one of those trips netted a Lombardi. You're only lying to yourself if you disagree.
QFT. I still don't get the folks that say they'd rather the team (Philly) compete for years then win one SB and suck for a decade. Anyone still saying that is full of shtein. Having seen my other pro teams win championships it's way better when they win one I can see and enjoy and then suck for the next dozen years (hello, NY Rangers - farging underachievers).
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on December 31, 2007, 06:07:12 PM
The Ravens made it to the playoffs in four of the last nine seasons. Yeah, they won the Super Bowl, but still, 4/9 years is awful.
Interesting stat. Here's the playoff appearances by head coaches who have been in the same place for at least 5 years:
Indy is 6/6 under Dungy.
NE is 6/8 under Belichick.
The Eagles are 6/9 under Reid.
Seattle is 6/9 under Holmgren.
Denver is 7/13 under Shanahan.
Tampa Bay is 3/6 under Gruden.
Jacksonville is 2/5 under Del Rio.
Tennessee is 5/13 under Fisher.
Carolina is 2/6 under Fox.
Cincinnati is 1/5 under Lewis.
Del Rio, Fisher, Fox, and Lewis all check in with sub-Billick percentages. And no Super Bowl wins among them.
Quote from: TexasEagle on December 31, 2007, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 07:16:44 PM
farg you. I'd take that if one of those trips netted a Lombardi. You're only lying to yourself if you disagree.
QFT. I still don't get the folks that say they'd rather the team (Philly) compete for years then win one SB and suck for a decade. Anyone still saying that is full of shtein. Having seen my other pro teams win championships it's way better when they win one I can see and enjoy and then suck for the next dozen years (hello, NY Rangers - farging underachievers).
If I hadn't already drank a fifth of gin, I'd be more accomodating. Demon and I had this conversation in Minnesota. He argued that having meaningful games in January and a chance is more important than anything for the brass ring. While I largely agree with that thinking (watching that Buffalo game sucked ass), the only reason you'd think not winning the SB is the key is because you've never experienced it, and don't know what you're missing (which was my argument, and Demon had no answer for that).
Quote from: MadMarchHare on December 31, 2007, 07:16:44 PM
farg you. I'd take that if one of those trips netted a Lombardi. You're only lying to yourself if you disagree.
I'd gladly trade your life for an Eagles Super Bowl win.
QuoteNOLAN IN THE BALANCE
Another head coach whom many presumed to be safe could end up out of a job.
49ers coach Mike Nolan's press conference, scheduled for 2:00 p.m. local time on Monday, was first bumped by two hours and then canceled.
Nolan currently is meeting with ownership.
It has been reported that V.P. of player personnel Scot McCloughan is expected to be named General Manager. His first order of business could be hiring a new head coach.
In three years under Nolan, the 49ers are 16-32.
Not too shocking considering how much money they have spent without results. Then again, drafting Alex Smith has hindered that team too. That's not Nolan's fault, but the way he handled Smith this year might have hurt him.
Another example of a team spending and spending not mattering because they don't have a QB.
Baltimore got rid of the coaching staff too. It didn't matter for Neuheisel since he's heading to UCLA, but Rex Ryan is now available for you Buddy lovers....
QuoteFALCONS PUTTING CART BEFORE THE HORSE?
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports that the Falcons will interview Cowboys offensive line coach Tony Sparano for the head-coaching job.
The only problem? The Falcons currently don't have a General Manager. Typically, the General Manager is involved in hiring the coach.
The fact that the Falcons are looking for a coach before hiring a G.M. suggests to us that the Falcons also are looking for what we'll now call a "G.M. Lite."
In essence, a "G.M. Lite" is a G.M. in name only. He's a guy who clearly doesn't have the authority to hire and fire the coach, and who might not have final say over personnel -- even if his contract says that he does.
As to the apparent "G.M. Lite" gig in Atlanta, we're hearing that the initial candidates include John Schneider of the Packers, Ravens pro personnel director George Kokinis, and Patriots director of college scouting Tom Dimitroff.
The situation also makes us wonder whether deposed G.M. Rich McKay (who likely fed the Sparano scoop to Pasquarelli) is working to create a situation in which he'll still have some juice. If the Falcons were to hire a strong G.M. and give him the keys to the car, McKay would undoubtedly be kicked to the curb.
Tony Soprano huh
I like how Dallas is good for 1 year and their coaching staff and front office is being raided already
martz out in detroit.
rob ryan is supposedly gonna be fired in oakland so kiffin can hire his daddy.
Christ, working 100 hour weeks with your father sounds like a goddamned nightmare.
Get ROB... Seriously, he's done well with crap players
Quote from: BigEd76 on January 01, 2008, 09:29:32 AM
but Rex Ryan is now available for you Buddy lovers....
Yes please.
i had buddy ryan on my death pool list but couldn't keep him on there.
Get the Ryan Brothers. Both of them. The team won't win anything of note, but the press conferences will be more fun.
Rumor has it the Ryan brother thats out in Oakland will go to the Jets and had worked that out in advance with Mangini.
The Bengals canned their DC (again) and their LB coach. That team needs a general manager badly.
or some players that can actually play defense and make a difference
Gotta get a GM that can find them.
Cam Cameron was canned
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3178646
Paging Jason Garrett...
that little red headed farg has never been so popular, he'd better enjoy it.
If teams want to get a coach in place soon, Garrett will miss some opportunities.
Still, Jerry will make him the highest-paid OC in the NFL before he lets him go.
garrett was born in abington
Their mascot is the Galloping Ghosts.
wow....besides Cameron, they fired all but 2 coaches, including Capers, Mularkey, Hudson Houck and Terry Robiskie. They only kept the LB coach and the asst. special teams coach...
they have a new president and a new gm...the suprising part is that they kept any coaches
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2008, 09:30:22 AM
garrett was born in abington
abington might be the worst "city" in the world. they farging suck.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2008, 12:45:35 PM
they have a new president and a new gm they were 1-15...the suprising part is that they kept any coaches
Quote from: PhillyGirl on January 03, 2008, 09:09:38 AM
Cam Cameron was canned
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3178646
Mueller & Cameron's fate was sealed the second they let their guy run up to the commisioner with Ted Ginn, Jr. on the draft card. Had it said Brady Quinn, they'd both probably still have their jobs today.
What's even better is that it doesn't even appear the Browns need Brady Quinn anymore.
At all.