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Title: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: ice grillin you on December 29, 2006, 09:23:20 AM
choose one from the below:

A. The Houston Texans
B. RJS
C. Matt Leinart
D. (http://www.philaflava.com/forum/images/smiles/dcracistemo0mp.gif)
E. The Wonderlic Test
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: Quasimoto on December 29, 2006, 09:37:43 AM
D.  You always go with D.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: PhillyGirl on December 29, 2006, 09:57:51 AM
B

Waited a long time for that...lol
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: phattymatty on December 29, 2006, 10:26:49 AM
I second B. 

he bet me $50 that Young wouldn't make the Pro Bowl in his first 5 years.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: rjs246 on December 29, 2006, 10:36:06 AM
Worst. Quarterback. Ever.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: ice grillin you on December 29, 2006, 10:37:52 AM
E

doesnt this have to render the wonderlic irrelevant

i couldnt think of a single good reason it was ever administered before VY
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: BigEd76 on December 29, 2006, 10:56:36 AM
Marino = 14
Favre = 22
Brady = 33
Eli Manning = 39
Brian Griese = 39

Supposedly it was created to give GMs an idea of who to pick if two or more players were equal in terms of ability and measurements.  I guess this is the "intangibles" or "book smarts" test or something, but it's clearly flawed...
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 29, 2006, 11:00:42 AM
Didn't McNabb score a 12 or something?

BTW, I think the answer is actually A.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: MadMarchHare on December 29, 2006, 01:59:33 PM
All it shows you is that any moron can play football.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: Feva on December 29, 2006, 04:20:09 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 29, 2006, 11:00:42 AM
Didn't McNabb score a 12 or something?

BTW, I think the answer is actually A.

WTF are you talking about?!  Mario Williams totally has 4 1/2 sacks.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 29, 2006, 05:14:36 PM
Ha.

Well, even if Williams made as much of an impact on the field, Young would have put a TON of asses in their seats as well.  And David Carr is just certainly not the answer.
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2006, 08:13:08 PM
The good thing about this is the guy who botched the Texans draft, Charlie Casserly, could be the Jints GM. When he paid Carr that bonus to keep him and then passed on Bush he proved his stupidity. I think Kubiak also played a role in not drafting Bush because he came from the Denver system where they think any dude can run for 1,000 yards+.
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Post by: ice grillin you on December 29, 2006, 09:04:31 PM
casserly is actually a quality PP guy...he 'botched' the texans draft because he was a lame duck gm and just didnt care...he figured its his last pick potentially ever why not throw everyone for a loop and if youre right youre the genius of all time and if youre wrong you will be long gone
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2006, 09:07:53 PM
Didn't he draft Heath Shuler too?
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: ice grillin you on December 29, 2006, 09:13:38 PM
heres the list of gm's who dont have a bad pick on their resume.....


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Post by: MDS on December 29, 2006, 09:22:32 PM
You forgot Billicheck and Paioli. They're perfect.
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Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 29, 2006, 09:28:53 PM
His drafting record with Houston was pretty spotty. I'd say it was actually bad. A few good picks but mostly bad ones. Including a bad trade with Oakland to get Philip Buchanon. And the Jason Babin drafting after trading up. He also traded a #1 pick (and two others) for Brad Johnson in 1999.

2002
1 - Davis Carr - QB
2 - Jabar Gaffney - WR
2 - Chester Pitts - OL
3 - Fred Weary - OL
3 - Charles Hill - DT
4 - Jonathan Wells - RB
5 - Jarrod Baxter - FB
5 - Ramon Walker - S
6 - DeMarcus Faggins - CB
6 - Howard Green - DT
7 - Greg White - DT
7 - Ahmad Miller - DT

2003
1 - Andre Johnson - WR
2 - Bennie Joppru - TE
2 - Tony Hollings - RB (supp draft pick)
3 - Antwan Peek - LB
3 - Seth Wand - OT
3 - Dave Ragone - QB
4 - Domanick Davis - RB
6 - Drew Henson - QB
6 - Keith Wright - DT
7 - Curry Burns - DB
7 - Chance Pearce - C

2004
1 - Dunta Robinson - CB
1 - Jason Babin - DE/OLB
4 - Glenn Earl - S
6 - Vontez Duff - DB
6 - Jamaal Lord - DB
6 - Charlie Anderson - LB
7 - Raheem Orr - LB
7 - Sloan Thomas - WR
7 -  BJ Symons - QB

2005
1 - Travis Johnson - DT
3 - Vernand Morency - RB
4 - Jerome Mathis - KR/WR
5 - Drew Hogdon - C
6 - CC Brown - S
7 - Kenneth Pettway - LB
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: ice grillin you on December 29, 2006, 10:38:32 PM
true with the texans he was average

but he also won three superbowls with the skins as an assistant gm/gm

hes one of the most respected PP guys of the last 25 years...thats a fact

all im sayin is i wouldnt be making fun of the giants or anyone else for hiring charlie casserly


Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: Geowhizzer on December 29, 2006, 10:39:25 PM
As of right now I'd say the biggest loser was Saddam Hussein.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 30, 2006, 10:22:47 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2006, 10:38:32 PM
true with the texans he was average

but he also won three superbowls with the skins as an assistant gm/gm

hes one of the most respected PP guys of the last 25 years...thats a fact

all im sayin is i wouldnt be making fun of the giants or anyone else for hiring charlie casserly

Well, he's better than Vinny Cerrato.
Title: Re: as a result of a vince young ROY award who is the biggest loser...
Post by: ice grillin you on January 03, 2007, 01:31:05 PM
Young outruns the field, is top offensive rookie
Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Vince Young looks as if he'll make the NFL his personal playground, too.

Vince Young ran away with the AP Offensive Rookie of the Year award.
The dynamic quarterback for the Tennessee Titans won The Associated Press Offensive Rookie of the Year Award on Wednesday. He did it in the same fashion he turned around the Titans' season -- running away from the rest of the field.

Young, who led Texas to the 2005 national championship and was the third overall pick in last April's draft, overwhelmed one of the strongest rookie classes in NFL history. He received 23 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the league.