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Title: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on December 21, 2006, 10:36:09 PM
Minny's up on the Pack 7-6. Favre's thrown 2 picks the last one being a heave to no one. Collingsworth has a mancrush on Winfield.

Rest of the schedule
Week 16
THU, DEC 21 TIME (ET) TV RESOURCES LOCATION
Minnesota at Green Bay 8:00 PM
SAT, DEC 23 TIME (ET) TV RESOURCES LOCATION
Kansas City at Oakland 8:00 PM
SUN, DEC 24 TIME (ET) TV RESOURCES LOCATION
Chicago at Detroit 1:00 PM Fox 
Tennessee at Buffalo 1:00 PM CBS 
Carolina at Atlanta 1:00 PM Fox
Indianapolis at Houston 1:00 PM CBS
Tampa Bay at Cleveland 1:00 PM Fox
Baltimore at Pittsburgh 1:00 PM CBS
New England at Jacksonville 1:00 PM CBS 
New Orleans at NY Giants 1:00 PM Fox
Washington at St. Louis 1:00 PM Fox
Arizona at San Francisco 4:05 PM Fox
San Diego at Seattle 4:15 PM CBS
Cincinnati at Denver 4:15 PM CBS
MON, DEC 25 TIME (ET) TV RESOURCES LOCATION
Philadelphia at Dallas 5:00 PM NBC
NY Jets at Miami 8:30 PM ESPN
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Diomedes on December 21, 2006, 10:41:39 PM
Minny D starting for me in the :CF Keeper League final. 
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: MDS on December 21, 2006, 10:56:58 PM
I have a crush on Fred Smoot.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 22, 2006, 12:29:05 AM
Packers win 9-7 and clinch 2nd place in the NFC North, eliminating the Vikings.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Father Demon on December 22, 2006, 12:33:37 AM
Trying to find the one game that screams "SCORE" this week like St. Louis and Indy did last week.

I'm thinking either Chicago -5 at Detroit, or an upset of AZ +4 in SF.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: methdeez on December 22, 2006, 11:14:30 AM
Tenesee has covered every week since young has been in.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2006, 12:21:06 AM
Chefs and Raiduhs played tonight.

Anyone notice?

Yeah, me either.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2006, 07:09:25 AM
I noticed.  I got almost 20 points out of LJ for the :CF Keeper final.  Two players down, one RB and my D, and I've already posted 40+.

Watch out FF!
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Father Demon on December 24, 2006, 11:06:35 AM
Quote from: Father Demon on December 22, 2006, 12:33:37 AM
Trying to find the one game that screams "SCORE" this week like St. Louis and Indy did last week.

I'm thinking either Chicago -5 at Detroit, or an upset of AZ +4 in SF.

Thoughts?

I decided on neither, but did bet these:

NO +3
ATL -5.5
NE +3

Plus a teaser:
TEN +11.5
NO +10
BAL +10
AZ +11
CIN +10
SEA +11

You care.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 11:16:37 AM
QuoteThe frustration of a lost season finally appeared to boil over when defensive leader Warren Sapp threw a tantrum on the sideline late in the first half as Oakland's offense once again struggled.
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Walter was 27-for-37 for 226 yards, but lost two fumbles and threw two interceptions. That gives him 22 turnovers on the season, despite starting only eight games.

It was Walter's second fumble in the first half that set Sapp off. He had been pacing the sideline and yelling in frustration during the drive. He flung his poncho to the ground
after Allen forced and recovered the fumble.

After Johnson scored with 40 seconds remaining, Sapp slammed his helmet to the turf when he returned to the sideline.

Sapp fumed the rest of the half and threw a towel again before heading to the locker room
after Walter's desperation heave was intercepted in the end zone by Page. Page added an interception in the end zone in the fourth quarter to preserve a 20-9 lead.

Sapp declined to comment after the game but his defensive teammates acknowledged that it is frustrating to make a stop and be forced to go right back on the field after a turnover.

"It's like cleaning up your room all day long, and somebody just comes in and messes it up," linebacker Kirk Morrison said. "How would you feel?"

The loss completed a second straight winless season in the AFC West for the Raiders, who have lost 14 straight division games.

...and they still may not get the #1 pick....
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Rome on December 24, 2006, 11:36:13 AM
Nothing like throwing your teammates under the bus when they farg up.

Then again, Oakland's defense is 4th overall in the AFC while their offense is butt-naked last, so maybe they have a point.

Either way, I still love watching those fargers suffer, especially Sapp.   :yay


(Edited - make that they're #4 in the NFL in total defense.)   :o
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: SunMo on December 24, 2006, 11:44:35 AM
yeah, both of Buddy's sons are kicking ass as DC's
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Rome on December 24, 2006, 11:51:45 AM
I guess the old chestnut that defense wins championships doesn't apply to the Raidazzzz.

:-D
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: SunMo on December 24, 2006, 12:26:57 PM
it only applies when you have something that resembles a NFL offense. 
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 02:08:22 PM
Can the Saints drop any more passes?  Jeez.  5 drops 2 mins into the 2nd quarter.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 02:12:56 PM
Chad Morton done for the year with a torn ACL...
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: QB Eagles on December 24, 2006, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 02:08:22 PM
Can the Saints drop any more passes?  Jeez.  5 drops 2 mins into the 2nd quarter.

Yes they can. 8 in the first half.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 02:55:18 PM
Houston becomes the latest team to try the one-color look....


(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/72/full.getty-71465487cg001_indianapolis__2_39_10_pm.jpg)

(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/fa/full.getty-71465487cg002_indianapolis__2_41_03_pm.jpg)
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 03:28:06 PM
Saints up on the Giants 20-7.  Panthers up on the Falcons 10-3.  Lions up on da Bears 21-17??  Texans up on the Colts 24-17???  Check that.  Colts just tied it up at 24... 2:41 remaining in the 4th.

Atlanta just ran a punt return back for a TD, but there's a flag on the field.  BLOCK IN THE BACK on Michael Jenkins... score stays 10-3.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 03:42:37 PM
Kris Brown kicks a FG as time expires and the Texans beat the Colts 27-24.  :-D
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 03:49:30 PM
Chris Draft (former Falcon) tips a Vick pass on 4th down and it falls incomplete.  Panthers are gonna lock it up 10-3.

Chris Weinke also gets his first win in his last 18 starts... which date all the way back to the first game of 2001.  :-D
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on December 24, 2006, 03:54:22 PM
The Giants are awful, Aikman's really giving it to them. With a Falcons loss and Giants loss that makes us automatically in...right?
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: QB Eagles on December 24, 2006, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on December 24, 2006, 03:54:22 PM
The Giants are awful, Aikman's really giving it to them. With a Falcons loss and Giants loss that makes us automatically in...right?

No. Still need at least a tie tommorow.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 04:10:54 PM
Merry Christmas to the Skins.  :boo

Jeff Wilkins misses a 41 yd FG as time expires to send the game to OT... tied at 31.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: QB Eagles on December 24, 2006, 04:17:19 PM
The Titans have now won 6 straight games.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: QB Eagles on December 24, 2006, 04:18:12 PM
The Patriots have clinched the AFC East.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: The BIGSTUD on December 24, 2006, 04:26:06 PM
Softy Plexiglass Burress was pissed that he wasn't in the pro bowl. Other than 1 lucky TD where a CB slipped and fell, you should try actually getting more than one catch in a game don't you think?

What a pansy. This dude is a joke. All he does is talk and he farging sucks.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 04:27:34 PM
Steven Jackson takes it in from 21 yards out.  Rams take it 37-31.  :yay
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 24, 2006, 04:29:21 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 24, 2006, 04:27:34 PM
Steven Jackson takes it in from 21 yards out.  Rams take it 37-31.  :yay

I needed that for any chance for a win in the :CF keeper league.

Dio's still in control, though.  I need Boldin and Westbrook to come up big.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 04:33:03 PM
We have ourselves a clusterF in the NFC....  :-D

6th seed:

NY Giants = 7-8 (6-5 NFC)
Green Bay = 7-8 (6-5 NFC)
Carolina = 7-8 (5-6 NFC)
Atlanta = 7-8 (5-6 NFC)
St. Louis = 7-8 (5-6 NFC)

...and if the 49ers beat the Cardinals, they'll be 7-8 (6-6 NFC)



Also, the Steelers and Bills were eliminated today...
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: The BIGSTUD on December 24, 2006, 04:35:04 PM
The Giants wouldn't beat the Raiders right now. If they get in it is going to be a disgrace. They quit.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 04:46:18 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on December 24, 2006, 04:29:21 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 24, 2006, 04:27:34 PM
Steven Jackson takes it in from 21 yards out.  Rams take it 37-31.  :yay

I needed that for any chance for a win in the :CF keeper league.

Dio's still in control, though.  I need Boldin and Westbrook to come up big.

Well... Jackson got you 150 yards and a TD on the ground and 102 yards receiving and a TD so he's done his part for you.  Can't ask for too much more than that.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2006, 04:54:47 PM
Eli today:

9/25 74 yards 1 TD 1 INT

Take away the 55yd TD to Burress;

8/24 19 yards 0 TD 1 INT

The Giants ran ZERO plays in Saints territory today. Zero.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 04:58:35 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 04:33:03 PM
...and if the 49ers beat the Cardinals, they'll be 7-8 (6-6 NFC)

They'll have to come back from a 17-3 deficit to do it.


Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2006, 04:54:47 PM
Eli today:
The Giants ran ZERO plays in Saints territory today. Zero.

:-D
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 05:12:49 PM
Question--how would the Eagles NOT get in now?  I think they'd hold tiebreakers over all the other teams "competing" for the last spot?
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 05:14:50 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 05:12:49 PM
Question--how would the Eagles NOT get in now?  I think they'd hold tiebreakers over all the other teams "competing" for the last spot?

If they lost their last 2.

That would include a loss to the Falcons and they'd hold the tiebreaker over us at 8-8.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 05:30:54 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on December 24, 2006, 05:14:50 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 05:12:49 PM
Question--how would the Eagles NOT get in now?  I think they'd hold tiebreakers over all the other teams "competing" for the last spot?

If they lost their last 2.

That would include a loss to the Falcons and they'd hold the tiebreaker over us at 8-8.

Right, but another 8-8 team would need to be ahead of us then too.  We beat GB.  We beat SF.  We beat CAR.  I think we'd hold tiebreakers over CAR?  We'd have a better conference record than STL, which would be the tiebreaker.  We'd have the same CONF and DIV record than NY, so maybe we wouldn't get a tiebreaker versus them?  I'm just looking at each team and I think we hold almost EVERY individual tiebreaker besides with ATL, which is why I'm confused about how we wouldn't make it. 

If NY loses to WASH next week, we're in regardless I think.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2006, 05:36:30 PM
Clinton Hart INTs his second pass of the first half.

Will it stand up under review? We'll see.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2006, 05:40:41 PM
It does.

SD leading 7-0
AZ winning 20-6 at the half
DEN leading 14-10
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 05:46:13 PM
If the Eagles lose out and the Giants beat Washington, the Giants and Falcons would go because the Falcons would have the H2H over the Eagles, while the Giants would have the better common games record (8-6 vs 6-8)...

....although....if the Panthers win at New Orleans, they'd knock the Falcons out....but the Eagles have the H2H over Carolina.  hmmmmmm  :-\
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 07:12:44 PM
Arizona won 26-20, eliminating the 49ers and giving Seattle the NFC West title...
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 07:30:03 PM
The Bengals trailed 24-17 in Denver and Carson Palmer hits Houshmanzadeh for a TD in the middle of the end zone to pull within 1.

What happens?  The holder botches the snap on the PAT!  :-D

:41 left in the game.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 07:36:00 PM
SD scores a TD with :20 left.  20-17 Chargers
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 07:40:02 PM
Game over.  Seattle has to fly across the country to face Tampa Bay next week.  We could have an 8-8 division champ this year...
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Feva on December 24, 2006, 07:42:26 PM
Well... we're already guaranteed that someone will be a wildcard in the NFC at 8-8... unless they're 7-9.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 09:37:37 PM
2007 Draft Order After Week 16, Before PHI/DAL
01 = Lions
02 = Raiders
03 = Browns
04 = Buccaneers
05 = Cardinals
06 = taterskins*
07 = Texans*
08 = Vikings
09 = 49ers
10 = Dolphins
11 = Falcons*
12 = Rams*
13 = Panthers
14 = Packers
15 = Steelers
16 = Bills
17 = Giants**
18 = Chiefs
19 = Jaguars
20 = Bengals
21 = Titans
22 = Patriots (from SEA)
23 = Jets
24 = EAGLES
25 = Broncos
26 = Cowboys
27 = Saints
28 = Patriots
29 = Colts
30 = Ravens
31 = Bears
32 = Chargers

* = coin flip

** = If playoff teams have worse records than non-playoff teams, they still pick earlier. It goes by record first, then non-playoff/playoff status.

=============================================================================================================

Detroit has a 3-game lead in the strength-of-schedule battle for the #1 pick.  If Dallas wins and the Jets lose, it will be down to a 2-game lead...

No effect on #1 pick battle
NY Giants at Washington
Carolina at New Orleans

Adds 2-2 no matter what and cancels out
Green Bay at Chicago = adds 2-2 to Detroit
Cleveland at Houston = adds 1-1 to Oakland
Pittsburgh at Cincinnati = adds 1-1 to Oakland

Each team played the Jets and Seahawks once, so they cancel out
Oakland at NY Jets
Seattle at Tampa Bay

Adds 1-1 to Detroit no matter what
St. Louis at Minnesota

Adds 1-1 to Oakland no matter what
Arizona at San Diego
San Francisco at Denver

Games that affect the #1 pick battle
Detroit at Dallas = Dallas result adds 1 to Detroit
Atlanta at Philadelphia = Atlanta result adds 1 to Detroit
Miami at Indianapolis = Miami result adds 1 to Detroit
New England at Tennessee = New England result adds 1 to Detroit

Jacksonville at Kansas City = Kansas City result adds 2 to Oakland

Buffalo at Baltimore = Buffalo result adds 1 to Detroit, Baltimore result adds 1 to Oakland
St. Louis at Minnesota = Minnesota result adds extra 1 to Detroit, St. Louis result adds 1 to Oakland
Arizona at San Diego = Arizona result adds 1 to Detroit, San Diego result adds extra 1 to Oakland
San Francisco at Denver = San Francisco result adds 1 to Detroit, Denver result adds  extra 1 to Oakland
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on December 24, 2006, 09:40:34 PM
Washington beat HOU. Doesn't that break the tie?
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 09:55:05 PM
head-to-head isn't used in determining draft order
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: MDS on December 24, 2006, 10:18:25 PM
You are spending way too much time breakdowing which incompetent team will farg up the #1 pick.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 10:20:11 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 05:12:49 PM
Question--how would the Eagles NOT get in now?  I think they'd hold tiebreakers over all the other teams "competing" for the last spot?

ALL of the following must happen:

EAGLES lose at Dallas
EAGLES lose vs Atlanta
Giants win at Washington
Panthers lose at New Orleans
Packers lose at Chicago
Rams lose at Minnesota
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2006, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 10:20:11 PM
Quote from: Eagles_Legendz on December 24, 2006, 05:12:49 PM
Question--how would the Eagles NOT get in now?  I think they'd hold tiebreakers over all the other teams "competing" for the last spot?

ALL of the following must happen:

EAGLES lose at Dallas
EAGLES lose vs Atlanta
Giants win at Washington
Panthers lose at New Orleans
Packers lose at Chicago
Rams lose at Minnesota

That's laughable.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: BigEd76 on December 24, 2006, 10:28:06 PM
It's funny and pathetic at the same time.  If the Eagles get stuck in a tie with only the Giants and Falcons, they're screwed....but if anyone else also ends up 8-8, the tiebreaking system changes and lets us in...
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Diomedes on December 24, 2006, 11:03:21 PM
from the NYT recap of the Giants game

QuoteThe Giants did not take a snap in Saints territory; the Saints took 65 on the Giants' side of the 50-yard line. The Giants were 0 of 10 on third-down conversions. The Giants' offense had season lows in plays (45), yards (142), first downs (6) and time of possession (19 minutes 26 seconds), which gave the game a feel of a cruel schoolyard keep-away contest.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Father Demon on December 24, 2006, 11:03:35 PM
so I won all my bets except one, and the Eagles are almost certain to get in the playoffs.

Merry Christmas to Father Demon.   :yay
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: The BIGSTUD on December 24, 2006, 11:17:51 PM
Did anyone see Vernon Davis get just killed? One of the best hits this season.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: Diomedes on December 25, 2006, 01:32:06 PM
QuoteYesterday was the Giants' worst regular-season loss at Giants Stadium since a 50-21 defeat to the taterskins on Sept. 19, 1999.... The Giants' 59 net passing yards were their lowest total since they had 48 on Dec. 15, 1996, also against New Orleans.

http://www.nj.com/giants/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1167025329122190.xml&coll=1&thispage=2
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on December 25, 2006, 02:04:11 PM
Eli would have been better off being the Manning brother that didn't even play football.
Title: Re: Around The NFL -- Week 16
Post by: 4and26 on December 27, 2006, 06:17:32 PM
OK, some of the stats were not great but it would have been nice to see an Eagle (Garcia) win honors this week...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9892875