http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2687451
Since when did cheeseburgers become illegal?
I was thinking Mayo personally, but that sucks for big Hollis. Dog follows the rules to the letter yet still gets popped.
Yay NFL.
Quote..Thomas has severe asthma problems and requires a high dose of inhaled steroids to breathe. According to the doctor, Thomas needs a long acting beta agonist and a short acting beta agonist to control his asthma.
During his August drug test, the defensive tackle was taking an asthma product called Advair twice a day while also using an inhaler four times a day.
That amount of medication can't be healthy.
I only use Advair once a day ??? But im also no 400lbs. That is a raw deal, i would think he'll win his appeal
There is no way he makes it to 50.
The hypocrisy exhibited by the NFL is awe-inspiring. Here's a guy who is taking a legally-prescribed medication as treatment for a properly diagnosed medical condition and he gets suspended.
Meanwhile, every Sunday guys get loaded up on the hardest narcotic pain masking agents known to mankind so they'll be able to play that day.
It's insane.
poor decision by NFL.
Will he have to retire? If they won't let him take his medication how will he play?
Thats crap.
As much as I love NFL football they sure do some stupid shtein. Some of the rules are stupid, the TV rules are stupid and this drug policy is stupid too.
What utter horseshtein. A travesty of justice.
QuoteNFL REJECTED THOMAS ASTHMA CLAIM
The agent for Saints defensive tackle Hollis Thomas has forwarded to us the text of the letter submitted to the NFL in October 2006 by the Saints' team physician, Dr. John Amoss.
Wrote Dr. Amoss: "I am the team physician of New Orleans Saints and this letter is to document that Hollis Thomas has severe asthma and requires high dose inhaled steroids, a long acting beta agonist and a short acting beta agonist to control to asthma. At the time of his drug test in August 2006, Hollis was taking Advair 500/50 twice daily along with singular 10 mg daily and albuterol inhaler four times daily. Hollis continues to be on this same drug regimen to control to asthma. Advair contains both the steroid fluticasone and the long acting beta agonist salmeterol. Hollis' urine drug test in August of 2006 was positive for clenbuterol which is a beta agonist. At the time of the test, Hollis was taking two beta agonist to control his asthma (albuterol and salmeterol) and the possibility of a false positive test in this case would appear to be highly plausible."
The fact that the team doctor vouched for Thomas but the appeal process nevertheless resulted in a four-game suspension tells us that the NFL is sticking by the notion, as emphasized in the policy, that players are responsible for what is in their bodies.
And unless the NFL decided that Thomas was using the asthma excuse to get away with cheating, the league's apparent decision to impose discipline on Thomas for taking medicine aimed at controlling a real medical condition could create potential issues under the Americans with Disabilities Act, or any comparable provision under Louisiana law.
Put simply, the law requires employers to make reasonable accommodations for any employee who has a disability. If asthma is regarded as a disability, and if Thomas has asked the NFL to soften its steroids policy based on his asthma so that he can take the medicine that he needs, Thomas might be able to file suit, if he so chooses.
And the potential damages would be his lost wages and, possibly, the injury to his reputation due to the branding of him as a steroids user. Also, the fact that he's already had one strike under the steroids policy could make him less marketable on the free agent market in 2007.
The Collective Bargaining Agreement could limit the options in this regard, but Article IX of the CBA, which sets forth non-injury grievance procedure, does not contain a "clear and unmistakable waiver" of statutory human rights claims, which could make it easier for Thomas to file a legal action.
So Thomas possibly could sue, if he chooses to do so. If, of course, the goal is to continue to participate in the playing of professional football, he might want to consider the potential connection between any lawsuit he files and the convenient lack of interest in his services for next season and beyond.
Apart from the lawsuit angle, why wouldn't the NFL want one of its players with asthma to be able to take his medicine? Does the name Korey Stringer ring any bells?
NFL = jackasses
Or maybe he is a roid monkey. Who cares.
Hollis on the roids? Not unless someone laced his diamonds with them.
He should sue.
Just look at him. He probably loses half of it out his nose ring hole. Anyway, thanks for having your career year once you leave the Eagles.
QuoteAROUND THE LEAGUE
-- Saints defensive tackle Hollis Thomas, who has been suspended for four games for violating the league's steroids policy, has claimed that the asthma medication he takes led to his positive test for the banned substance clenbuterol. But the league insists a player would not be punished for taking asthma medication. According to NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, the league's testing procedure is sophisticated enough to detect approved asthma medications.
"There's no asthma medication on our banned substance list,'' said Aiello, "unless it's something that has ephedra [a stimulant in some cold medications that is on the league's banned substance list] in it. And players can apply for a special medical exemption. There are numerous players who have been approved for the therapeutic use of something on the banned list like a diuretic or ephedra. We're not discriminating against asthmatics. But there's nothing in asthma medication that would trigger a positive test. If there's something legitimate being taken on the banned list, there are allowances for that. And the medical waiver doesn't have to be requested in advance. It can be given at that point. Hollis Thomas had his appeal, presented his evidence, and the league rejected it.''
Quote from: Philly_Crew on December 06, 2006, 07:31:35 AM
Just look at him. He probably loses half of it out his nose ring hole. Anyway, thanks for having your career year once you leave the Eagles.
Probably because he violated the league's drug policy. Everyone seems to be rushing to the guys aid simply because he has asthma. I bet he was roiding it up and figured if he got caught he could blame it on his asthma meds.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on December 08, 2006, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Philly_Crew on December 06, 2006, 07:31:35 AM
Just look at him. He probably loses half of it out his nose ring hole. Anyway, thanks for having your career year once you leave the Eagles.
Probably because he violated the league's drug policy. Everyone seems to be rushing to the guys aid simply because he has asthma. I bet he was roiding it up and figured if he got caught he could blame it on his asthma meds.
if this led to a suspension of 4 games. doesnt that mean that this would be his second violation?
Wasn't he caught smoking the ganja when he was in Philly?
There's a story (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/08/sports/football/08steroids.html) in today's New York Times that makes it pretty clear that Hollis was using performance-enhancing drugs that he didn't need for his asthma. Some excerpts:
QuoteA drug test Aug. 7 found clenbuterol, a banned drug that helps burn fat and promotes muscle growth, in Thomas's body.
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One football official, who was granted anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the case, said the drug found in Thomas's system could not have resulted from a combination of the medications. If the drugs that Thomas was prescribed by the team doctor were the only medications found in his system, he would have won his appeal, the official said.
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Advair and albuterol, drugs that Thomas was taking for his asthma, are included on the N.F.L.'s list of prohibited substances. But they were not cited as violations because they were prescribed by the team doctor, the official said.
"As long as what is found in the system is what the doctor prescribed you, you are fine," the official said. "But in this case, there was something else besides what the doctor prescribed."
The second football official, who was not authorized to speak publicly, confirmed what the other official said.
Drug-testing experts also questioned the team doctor's written argument. Clenbuterol is not a steroid, but it cannot be obtained legally for human use in the United States. Only veterinarians treating horses with severe breathing problems similar to asthma can prescribe the drug.
"I have never heard the proposition put forth that this combination of drugs would produce a positive test for clenbuterol," said Dr. Gary I. Wadler, an associate professor of medicine at New York University and an adviser for the World Anti-Doping Agency.
Clenbuterol is not more effective at treating asthma than the other medications Thomas was taking for his breathing problems, Wadler said. The drug is available for human consumption in some South American countries and has been used to increase muscle growth in show animals and athletes.
Ha, and all of you clowns were defending him. Get it straight, these guys are not your friends. They don't need to be defended tooth and nail when its obvious that they are cheating.
If you're 30 and a professional athlete in ridiculously good shape and you have a stroke... it isn't a complicated equation.
i now find it funny that hollis thomas was talking horse medication
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on December 08, 2006, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Philly_Crew on December 06, 2006, 07:31:35 AM
Just look at him. He probably loses half of it out his nose ring hole. Anyway, thanks for having your career year once you leave the Eagles.
Probably because he violated the league's drug policy. Everyone seems to be rushing to the guys aid simply because he has asthma. I bet he was roiding it up and figured if he got caught he could blame it on his asthma meds.
I'm rushing to his aid becuase he is a jolly fat man, who used to make me crack up.
free hollis!!!
Quote from: Wingspan on December 08, 2006, 01:05:35 PM
i now find it funny that hollis thomas was talking horse medication
I like how it's used to give "show animals" more muscles.
I just saw Hollis at the water hole.
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This thread started out with such promise. Well, no it didn't but it ended up being a pretty funny read after all.
Well done.
Quote from: MURP on December 08, 2006, 03:50:41 PM
I just saw Hollis at the water hole.
farging hilarious
Hollis is back for the playoffs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2719126&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)