Link (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=60445)
Quotehe Eagles added a little bit of magic to their special teams unit on Wednesday.
Pro Bowl long snapper Mike Bartrum was placed on the Injured Reserve list on Wednesday and the Eagles signed Jon Dorenbos to take his place.
The 6-0, 245-pound Dorenbos has played in 39 NFL games since signing as a rookie free agent with the Buffalo Bills following the 2003 NFL Draft. He is also a professional magician who has performed in Las Vegas and Hollywood.
Most recently, Dorenbos was an emergency replacement for the Tennessee Titans earlier this season when long snapper Ken Amato was sidelined with a thigh injury for the Oct. 15 game vs. Washington. Dorenbos was called in for a similar role in 2005. Amato was out for the final nine games of the season with a broken leg and Dorenbos was signed to fulfill Amato's long snapper job.
Bartrum suffered a herniated disc during Sunday's loss to the Colts. The herniated disc at located at C3-C4 and is "lying against his spinal cord," according to head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder.
Dorenbos spent his first two seasons with the Bills. He was one of two rookie free agents to make the final 53-man roster and handled punt snapping duties in all 16 games. In 2004, he was the Bills' long snapper for 13 games before suffering a season-ending knee injury. Dorenbos spent the 2005 training camp with the Bills before being released prior to the start of the regular season.
Dorenbos began his collegiate career in 1999 at Golden West Junior College in Huntington Beach, Cal., as a fullback and linebacker, before transferring to the University of Texas-El Paso in 2000. He went on to handle the long snapping duties in 23 games while at UTEP over three seasons. A 26-year-old native of Garden Grove, Cal., Dorenbos starred at Pacifica High School in football, baseball and basketball.
QuoteHe is also a professional magician
Cool, maybe he can make our defense re-appear
He should perform at halftime.
I'm so wet over this news.
Dorenbos is God.
Obviously Reid's arrogance kept him from signing that giant, run-stuffing long snapper that we need. >:(
excellent signing...i heard a lot of good things about this guy
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2006, 03:52:02 PM
excellent signing...i heard a lot of good things about this guy
Me too!
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2006, 03:50:41 PM
what the hell is reid thinking...he couldnt find someone more experienced than this...first a skier now a magician...what is going on with this team
BTW, I hope to be able to pick up my Dorenbos jersey on PhiladelphiaEagles.com by the end of the week!
I hope to be able to pick up my Dorenbos jersey on PhiladelphiaEagles.com by the end of the week hour!
I'm surprised you haven't already personalized an authentic Dorenbos for the low low price of $279.99.
if i rocked a dornebus jersey on monday at least 99% of the stadium thinks its my last name
You should change your name to Dorenbos.
his first name should be Lon and hed be really awesome
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2006, 04:03:25 PM
if i rocked a dornebus jersey on monday at least 99% of the stadium thinks its my last name
because they don't know the player or because you spelled Dorenbos wrong?
yes
I think this is the guy who saw his father murder his mother and thats why he persued magic. Not sure though. Anyone else remember that?
Dorenbos rises from tragedy
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com
NEW YORK -- The most magical player still available after the three-round proceedings of Saturday is a prospect who isn't even on the draft boards of most NFL teams, was personally auditioned by just six franchises, and who might not even be included among those 262 candidates who will have been chosen by Sunday evening.
Then again, if he isn't selected at all in the NFL draft, it won't be the worst thing that has ever happened to Jon Dorenbos.
In fact, it wouldn't even be close, he acknowledged.
"Nope, not at all," said Dorenbos, a special teams standout from Texas-El Paso, and a player some scouts feel is the best deep-snapper prospect in this draft, with some talent evaluators suggesting he might be one of the best they have seen in several years. "When you look at the big picture, if I don't get taken . . . well, hey, I've gotten through a whole lot worse."
A professional magician, who has performed in Las Vegas and Hollywood and who has earned as much as $1,000 per hour as an entertainer, there is no sleight of hand in Dorenbos' ambitious repertoire that he can perform and simply make disappear the tragedy he experienced nearly 10 years ago.
It has taken years of therapy, the diversions of magic and football, strong values and an even stronger family, to get Dorenbos to the point where he can discuss the events of 1993. He was 12 years old at the time his mother was killed, just an impressionable youngster moving into adolescence when his father was charged with and convicted of her murder, a kid buffeted to a foster home and then subjected to an intense custody battle.
That he was saved by his aunt and uncle, Susan and Steve Hindman, who won custody and eventually were able to legally adopt Dorenbus, certainly is admirable. No more so, however, than the fact Jon Dorenbos, his life in total upheaval at an age where survival skills are still nascent, was able to somehow land on his feet and salvage his life after such a heinous event.
There is a certain irony, and at the same time a sort of poetic justice, to the possibility Jon Dorenbos might actually derive a livelihood from standing upside down and staring backwards. In those years immediately after his father was convicted of second-degree murder, and his somewhat cozy life and upper-middle class upbringing was rent asunder, Dorenbos was forced by his therapist to confront tragedy in the rear-view mirror.
The breakthrough to some semblance of normalcy was not an easy one.
It was during those years that Dorenbos began practicing magic and the art of illusion.
"It became, in a very real way, my escape," Dorenbos allowed. "I had to find something that got my mind off what had happened. Once I got into it a little, and found out I liked it, then it became a passion for me. Now it's a way to earn a few bucks and entertain some people."
Toward the first end, Dorenbos works a few hours a month, and earns some pocket dough. As for the latter effort, well, he performs regularly for kids in hospitals or at parties, scaling back his rather sophisticated act and working instead on things like fashioning balloon animals or pulling bunnies out of a top hat or turning his wand into a fistful of chrysanthemums.
You know, the usual age-appropriate stuff, the illusions and sight gags that get a chuckle out of some bed-ridden youngster.
His trademark stunt is one in which he lights himself on fire -- something he does not, of course, recommend even for some practiced illusionists -- but a typical performance for an adult audience also features the kinds of tricks that require sharp eyes to discern. He can, for instance, pilfer your watch or pick your wallet from your pocket before you realize either is missing. He does card tricks, too, and his act runs the usual gamut.
But his best trick over the past three years at UTEP has been rifling the ball back to the punter at near warp-speed. At a recent "pro day" workout, where six teams attended, he averaged .62 seconds in getting the ball to the punter. One hyper-speed snap was timed at .59 seconds. For the uninitiated, a good time in the NFL is regarded as .70-.75 seconds.
" Even on tape," said St. Louis Rams special teams coach Bobby April, "it's clear the guy is amazing. He's the best I've seen this year. And he might be the best in a lot of years, maybe among the top guys I've ever seen. I know we won't take him, because we used a draft pick (in 2002) on our snapper (Chris Massey), and he's excellent. But I'll tell you, Dorenbos is something else, he really is, man."
But getting from being a deep snapper at Pacifica High School in Garden Grove, Calif., to performing the esoteric art at Texas-El Paso required a little sleight of hand as well. Or, least least, some careful film editing.
Dorenbos, 22, was in his freshman year at Golden West Junior College in Huntingdon Beach, Calif., when he received a phone call from a buddy who was at UTEP at the time. The message: The school desperately needed a guy who could deep-snap without spraying the ball all over the lot.
Trouble was, Dorenbos, who has also played some linebacker and fullback in his career, wasn't handling deep-snapping duties then at Golden West. So he took some video from his high school days, spliced in footage of the player who was deep-snapping at Golden West, doctored everything up a little, and shipped it off to the UTEP coaches. Their phone calls led to his being recruited and he became the UTEP deep-snapper for three years.
What the scouts like nearly as much as his snapping acumen is the manner in which he gets downfield on punt coverage. In three years at UTEP, he averaged nearly 10 tackles. By league standards, if a deep-snapper records four or five tackles annually, it is considered extraordinary.
Said Dorenbos of his trademark hustle: "The way I see it, I'm only on the field for five or six snaps a game. Geez, if I can't go all-out on those few snaps, I ought to be doing something else. You'd think I should have the energy, man, to at least cover a few kicks, huh?"
There is always a chance, of course, that Dorenbos will indeed be doing something other than playing football in 2003. Then again, if he just gets into an NFL training camp, and is as good as scouts contend that he is, he might well earn a roster spot. In the wake of the botched field goal attempt by the New York Giants in their playoff defeat at San Francisco, the art of deep-snapping is a much better appreciated one.
Even if Dorenbos doesn't ever cash an NFL paycheck, the story of the engaging deep-snapper/magician, is an estimable tale of survival and of triumph of the human spirit.
There is still some contact with his father, whose first name Jon asked not be divulged, and the elder Dorenbos could be released as early as next year. It remains to be seen if Jon reconciles with his dad, a prominent software specialist, and there are some mixed emotions along those lines. To Jon Dorenbos, his aunt and uncle have become mother and father, and there is little doubt he views them as such.
His sister, Krissy, has graduated from college with a neuroscience degree and is committed to helping children. Whether he makes it to the NFL or makes it to Las Vegas as a flashy showman, Jon Dorenbos has promised himself he won't forget what it was like to be traumatized at such a young age, and he likewise will find some outlet for aiding youngsters forced to experience similar circumstances.
There is no trick, after all, for totally expunging one's memory banks.
"You know somewhere, during those years of therapy, I remember telling my sister that we could live forever stuck in that whole incident," Dorenbos said. "Or we could do something with ourselves and with our lives. I think we've kind of both chosen that (latter) approach."
Yeah thats him. That really sucks. Maybe he's our LS of the future!
If this guy's any good, he'll be on the team for years to come.
Since I don't feel like reading words today, somebody tell me. Is he like Bartrum in the fact that he has another posistion other then LS? Can he play a little TE in a pinch, or block, anything?
since hes the best LS of all-time and still couldnt find a team im gonna guess thats all he does
Being so great and not finding a permanent team is somewhat sketchy. However, maybe he was released for roster reasons. I haven't heard of him botching snaps at all, so if he can just get it back there to Diggler pretty fast then its all good.
yeah i am a little confused at why he cant find a spot if he is that good. Teams keep kickoff specialists on their roster for fargs sake. Sounds like this guy can play some special teams if need be, he does have a LB background.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 29, 2006, 04:58:11 PM
since hes the best LS of all-time and still couldnt find a team im gonna guess thats all he does
Maybe we can move him to WIL, put McNabb at SAM next year, and start AJ Feeley at QB.
Super Bowl in '07 mutha farga.
Quote from: MURP on November 29, 2006, 05:26:11 PM
Sounds like this guy can play some special teams if need be, he does have a LB background.
Great, the Eagles need more pasty-ass LBs.
Um, he's a 242 pound long snapper who doesn't play any other positions. Why is anyone confused about his inability to stick with a team?
Get all warm and fuzzy inside:
The Jon Dorenbos Story:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVMlAC6vE9Q (Part 1)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n9Zp_Hufgnc (Part 2)
Here he is...
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/football/nfl/players/6607.jpg)
Doesn't look like a LB to me though...
(http://www.optimumsportsmgmt.com/images/leckey.jpg)
Jon Dorenbos magic tricks!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jnSyJ3vmf6g&mode=related&search=
The guy looks like he can be AJ Feeley's brother...
His drunk, overweight brother maybe...
I thought this guy lead the league in long-snapping a few years ago, unless I'm thinking of someone else.
How exactly do you lead the league in long snapping?
Note: Please don't explain it to me. If there actually is a stat that can tell you who leads the league, it's a made up stat that special teams coaches created to make their jobs seem more quantifiable.
You snap it over Dirk's head 0.79 seconds faster than Bartrum
Honestly though, I do feel bad for Bartrum, especially if his career is in fact over. He's been a solid building block of the ST and has done his job well. He deserves alot of credit. When the Eagles were good, special teams were a core reason why, and the field goal unit was probably the best of the lot.
I've heard talk over the last couple of years that long snappers are exposed to neck injuries as there is nothing to stop d-linemen from clobberring the back of the neck as they snap. Although I think it's gone too far sometimes in how much the refs protect the quaterback, I'd like to see the refs call a penalty when the longsnappers head or neck is attacked.
I've wondered why centers don't usually do the longsnapping. Is it because it is such a different skill and centers really can't do it? That would suprise me. Or is it more that coaches just don't want their starters out there on ST's (and if so, how come the back up center doesn't do it?) Anyone know?
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 30, 2006, 01:24:42 AM
I've wondered why centers don't usually do the longsnapping. Is it because it is such a different skill and centers really can't do it? That would suprise me. Or is it more that coaches just don't want their starters out there on ST's (and if so, how come the back up center doesn't do it?) Anyone know?
Having played center many many moons ago, I can say that the mechanics are completely different, so being good at one has no relation to being good at the other. Long-snapping is really like throwing a pass - upside down and between your legs. While any center probably could do it, very few can do it well. The blocking mechanics are also quite different - the center needs to get the ball up fast so he can get his hands into the defender. The long snapper doesn't have time after the follow through to effectively block, and really just tries to stand his ground and fill space. This is partly why the splits on kicks are much tighter - the guards have to help plug the hole for the long snapper.
Since AR wrote the book on long snapping, let's hope he got this acquisition right...
so who else is gonna start stop watching all the eagle long snaps
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 29, 2006, 09:09:36 PM
Doesn't look like a LB to me though...
(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/football/nfl/players/6607.jpg)
He looks more like he should be standing around a Delaware Ave dance club with the collar on his striped shirt popped up.
if i've learned anything in this thread, it's that magic saves lives.
so youre saying he should have learned it before his mother got murdered?
presto bitch!
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 30, 2006, 01:24:42 AMI've heard talk over the last couple of years that long snappers are exposed to neck injuries as there is nothing to stop d-linemen from clobberring the back of the neck as they snap. Although I think it's gone too far sometimes in how much the refs protect the quaterback, I'd like to see the refs call a penalty when the longsnappers head or neck is attacked.
i actually believe it is a penalty to attack a LS, i believe i saw one called just last weekend, hell, it may have been during the eagles game, but i was so drunk i may have been watching the local HS team.
I believe they just instituted that rule this year.
It used to be where a player could "can" a guy and it was legal. But in college no one could line up over the LS and the NFL just made it like that. Because those guys are vulnerable as hell.
Thanks, good updates on the penalty aspect and nice breakdown Cerevant on the center/longsnapper technique. FWIW, I saw about half the game. I wasn't drunk at all and it still looked like a local highschool team.
QuoteEagle overcomes family tragedyBy Joseph Santoliquito
Special to ESPN.com
PHILADELPHIA --- Every year, Kathy Dorenbos would make sure each of her three children would have a Christmas ornament to hang. Sometimes she would make them herself out of bread dough, stenciling in a date on the back. She was always there for her children, Randy, Krissy and Jon. It didn't matter the time or place. Mom was there.
Special to ESPN.com
Kathy Dorenbos, the mother of Eagles' long snapper Jon Dorenbos, was killed by her husband in 1992.Especially at Christmas time.
That's why Jon Dorenbos (pronounced DORN-bahs) will take out his favorite fire truck ornament, the one made by his mom and carefully preserved after all these years, look down on it and smile. It's why this time of year is always a little difficult for the 26-year-old Philadelphia Eagles long snapper. The reminders. So many reminders. It would have been nice for Kathy to see Jon today, playing in the NFL.
But she's watching from somewhere, Jon likes to think.
On Aug. 2, 1992, Kathy was killed by her husband Alan after an argument in the family garage in a Seattle suburb. Jon, 12 at the time, was the only one else home. Krissy was in California visiting relatives and Randy was at a basketball camp. Randy and Jon testified at their father's trial in November 1992.
Alan Dorenbos turned himself in the following day and was eventually convicted of second-degree murder. He served a little more than 13 years. He has done his time and is out of prison, but Jon, Krissy and Randy have no contact with their father. The three have managed to deal with the anger and resentment toward their father.
Jon has taken it a step further.
"I forgive my father for what he did," says Jon, who was adopted and raised by his aunt and uncle. "Maybe I haven't forgiven him for the act, but I've forgiven him. Maybe he was lost in life at that time. But I've never tried contacting my father, and he's never tried contacting me. I was 12 when it happened, and the trial was in November, around the holiday season, with Thanksgiving and Christmas time. It's hard when you're a kid that age, because everything then was like a dream to me, as if it really didn't happen.
"I forgive my father for what he did. Maybe I haven't forgiven him for the act, but I've forgiven him"
Jon Dorenbos, Eagles long snapper
"I remember being at the trial and asking my Aunt Susan each day, 'Where's mom? Where's mom?' I was aware of what happened, but knowing and believing are two different things. As I got older, I started to see things more clearly. I learned about life. I learned about forgiveness."
And Dorenbos, an accomplished magician, has learned to captivate a room with his personality, his amazing sleight-of-hand magic tricks and his enduring laugh.
"Jon's always been an inspiration to me," says Krissy, 29, a medical researcher in Phoenix. "He was always the kid who stood up for the kid that the bullies were picking on. That's Jon. He's kind, charismatic and sincere, and that's because Jon is an extrovert. That rubs off on people. Jon was always able to radiate this positive energy."
It's that attitude that has kept Dorenbos in the NFL. He is with his third team. Buffalo signed him as an undrafted free agent out of Texas-El Paso in 2003. He played two seasons for the Bills, nine games with Tennessee last season and one game this season with the Titans. He was picked up by the Eagles in late November as a replacement for Eagles regular long snapper Mike Bartram, who went on injured reserve with a career-threatening neck injury.
Dorenbos will play Christmas day on national TV against the Cowboys in a game that potentially could decide the NFC East title.
Randy has constructed a creative scrapbook of his family, sketching the lives and background of Kris, Jon and his own life. It was Randy's way of dealing with his mother's tragic death. It's something he'll share with family again during the holidays, poring over pictures and memories.
Special to ESPN.com
"Jon's always been an inspiration to me," says his sister Krissy of her brother, who is an accomplished magician.And ornaments.
"There is one that my mother actually made me when I was around 4 or 5, where I'm on Santa's lap with the largest thick-framed glasses you'd ever see in your life, crying, like a kid who didn't want to be there," says Randy, 32, a store manager in Corona, Calif. "My mother put that picture in a small, round, gold frame. It's the size of a silver dollar, and I still have it after all these years. It makes me laugh and think of mom. She's proud of what Jon's doing and the success he's made of himself. I say that in the present tense, because to me, it's not like she's gone. She's still here watching."
On Monday night in Philadelphia, Dorenbos mesmerized kids and adults with his magic act after a TV appearance at a local restaurant.
"I've been approached about doing a movie and a book about my life and what I've been through," Jon says. "I remember the trial ... [my father] looked at me with this cold, black stare. Through time, I never wanted revenge. But I also learned there [is] no such thing as long odds in this world. Not for me. I don't believe in failure. I've been fortunate enough to have great family and friends around me.
"I suppose those are the kind of Christmas presents people want around them every year."
Joseph Santoliquito is managing editor of RING Magazine and a frequent contributor to ESPN.com. He can be contacted at JSantoliquito@yahoo.com.
Dorenbos gets 5 year extension (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=14896)
I was (sadly) thinking about this the other day. Everyone thought the Eagles could do much better prior to the season but he's done pretty well this year.
im not doubting you but were people really analyzing the long snapper position before the season?
I guess Dorenbos has done fine, for what it's worth. But don't the Eagles have bigger fish to fry with that cap money?
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
im not doubting you but were people really analyzing the long snapper position before the season?
Well, I dunno about analyzing. But good long snappers who can actually contribute on ST are not exactly a dime a dozen. The Eagles had a good thing going with Bartrum for a long time, and so LS was a question mark with Dorenbos.
He's been solid. It's good to stabilize that position by signing him.
I just wish they had waited to do it until the off season begins in earnest, so we could enjoy the argument you're going to pick about it more fully.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
im not doubting you but were people really analyzing the long snapper position before the season?
Kind of. The main problem was really replacing a longtime pro bowl LS with a magician.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 29, 2007, 10:49:13 AM
[I just wish they had waited to do it until the off season begins in earnest, so we could enjoy the argument you're going to pick about it more fully.
You're funny sometimes.
Quote from: Diomedes on December 29, 2007, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
im not doubting you but were people really analyzing the long snapper position before the season?
Well, I dunno about analyzing. But good long snappers who can actually contribute on ST are not exactly a dime a dozen. The Eagles had a good thing going with Bartrum for a long time, and so LS was a question mark with Dorenbos.
He's been solid. It's good to stabilize that position by signing him.
I just wish they had waited to do it until the off season begins in earnest, so we could enjoy the argument you're going to pick about it more fully.
arguing about a long snapper would probably be worse than you analyzing the position like you just did...i have uncountable areas of expertise however long snapper is not one of them...congrats to you on that
It's a good move. He looked shaky last season but was good this year. The amount of money likely used to sign him probably isn't enough to even put a dent in the cap or affect whomever else they want to sign.
Quote from: ice grillin you on December 29, 2007, 01:18:42 PM
arguing about a long snapper would probably be worse than you analyzing the position like you just did...i have uncountable areas of expertise however long snapper is not one of them...congrats to you on that
ya, I made a pretty exhaustive analysis there homeboy
you = weak sauce
I thought igy = hot sauce on eggs and grits. Did I miss something?
You can tell the season is suck when there are three pages dedicated to a long snapper...
but he does corny card tricks!
Quote from: Phanatic on December 30, 2007, 12:32:38 PM
You can tell the season is suck when there are three pages dedicated to a long snapper...
In all fairness, more than 2 pages of it are from last season.
Bad snap on the missed FG. Bad snap on the blocked punt.
Eagles worked out long snappers this week.
Maybe they can play C too.
but can they do card tricks?
We need an in depth analysis of these guys coming in.
one is a harvard grad:
(http://thumb.usatodaysportsimages.com/image/thumb/650-510nw/7940636.jpg)
Is he stealing footballs?
That's how they smuggle the deflated ones onto the field.
i know hes just a long snapper....but chip is such a piece of shtein for doing this...the guy has been a great eagle and the best at his job for almost 15 years has a bad game and you embarrass him by bring people in to work out?
bush league imo
how many people have played more games in an eagle jersey than dorenbos...cant be a whole lot
If there's 1 thing that Chip has been incredibly consistent about since day 1, it's that he doesn't give a single farg about his players and he won't hesitate to throw them on top of the grenade.
Chip gonna be chip
If there was such a thing Dornboss would be a HOF LS.
This is just stupid.
Yeah working out LS mid-season is a shtein move
If you're going to replace him then do it in the off-season.
who gives a shtein about his feelings
hes really good at snapping girls snatches that arent his wife...be better at snapping the ball magic man
It's got less to do with his feelings and more to do with the fact that had the Eagles won that game, he wouldn't have brought a LS in for a workout. But they lost so Chip's gotta make sure everyone knows that it wasn't his fault.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 18, 2015, 12:02:18 PM
i know hes just a long snapper....but chip is such a piece of shtein for doing this...the guy has been a great eagle and the best at his job for almost 15 years has a bad game and you embarrass him by bring people in to work out?
bush league imo
how many people have played more games in an eagle jersey than dorenbos...cant be a whole lot
This
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 19, 2015, 12:43:58 AM
It's got less to do with his feelings and more to do with the fact that had the Eagles won that game, he wouldn't have brought a LS in for a workout. But they lost so Chip's gotta make sure everyone knows that it wasn't his fault.
And this.
Chip's schtick is now just nauseating. I never in a gazillion years thought I'd miss "I need to do a better job" throat clear "Times yours" but I'm getting there.
Quote from: MDS on November 18, 2015, 07:02:10 PM
who gives a shtein about his feelings
hes really good at snapping girls snatches that arent his wife...be better at snapping the ball magic man
has nothing to do with his feelings...in fact he publicly agreed with the move....its bigger picture than that.....if he had the yips.....or five awful games in a row then fine something has to be done....but he has one bad game in 15 years and you bring in some guys who were working at home depot to workout in his face....it would have been better to just call him in the office and cut him...to treat a guy like that sends an awful message to everyone...he isnt casey sturgis
to that point, they didn't do shtein when Sturgis was awful early on
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 19, 2015, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: MDS on November 18, 2015, 07:02:10 PM
who gives a shtein about his feelings
hes really good at snapping girls snatches that arent his wife...be better at snapping the ball magic man
has nothing to do with his feelings...in fact he publicly agreed with the move....its bigger picture than that.....if he had the yips.....or five awful games in a row then fine something has to be done....but he has one bad game in 15 years and you bring in some guys who were working at home depot to workout in his face....it would have been better to just call him in the office and cut him...to treat a guy like that sends an awful message to everyone...he isnt casey sturgis
maybe its also a message? maybe dorenbos isnt culturing enough for chip's liking and this is a message to dorenbos to stop the magic and tv shtein.
Or maybe Chip's a douche.
I'd like to say that it's going to be fun watching all of the good players culture their way out of town, but they've already done that.
Yet no workouts for people to replace Austin and KKKooper
Riley just keeps fighting them off, Chip doesn't know what to do.
Lurie should being Banner in for a work out.
There are some long lost brothas at the beginning of this thread
Damn...
You still have me!
At least that SD_Eagle5 didn't come back. Dude was a total douche.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 19, 2015, 12:34:03 PM
Or maybe Chip's a douche.
I think that's going a bit too far. On the other hand, it would explain the vinegar smoothies Dorenbos has been served this week.
Dorenbos on America's Got Talent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCyXy4GH-O8
Pretty sick card trick
I had thought his shtick was probably mediocre...but he's pretty damned good. I'm looking forward to seeing what else he can bring to the table.
Obviously all wires.
(http://www.dailymotion.com/thumbnail/video/x2suor9)
Latest trick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy_z1yxgI9M
man I hope that new kid beats out this guy....I am so over him
He's been a Pro Bowl level performer for a decade but he's white and does magic tricks so cut him.
You seriously need intensive psychiatric care.
kill whitey !
julie dorenbos must be slitting her wrists right about now
lol
We tailgated with his brother once. Really cool guy.
Don't know how many of you are familiar with the tragedy this guy had to go through, but to become a professional football player and famous magician is impressive.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19921030&slug=1521769
Quote from: SD on July 13, 2016, 09:04:54 AM
lol
We tailgated with his brother once. Really cool guy.
Don't know how many of you are familiar with the tragedy this guy had to go through, but to become a professional football player and famous magician is impressive.
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19921030&slug=1521769
that's some serious shtein to have to overcome in life.
He's clearly a locker room nightmare. All the more reason to cut him. :paranoid
Quote from: Rome on July 13, 2016, 08:42:26 AM
He's been a Pro Bowl level performer for a decade but he's white and does magic tricks so cut him.
You seriously need intensive psychiatric care.
hes had a nice career but its time to gtfo...youll be happy to know the new guy is also white
Maybe it wasn't all Chip's fault. I heard that Dorenbos made PIMP, Shady, & Maclin disappear.
if only dorenbos could make mds & vigy disappear.
:-D
Quote from: hunt on July 13, 2016, 10:31:50 AM
if only dorenbos could make mds & vigy disappear.
:-D
that's going to be his finale in the show.
Quote from: hunt on July 13, 2016, 10:31:50 AM
if only dorenbos could make mds & vigy disappear.
:-D
fyi - magicians don't really make things disappear
spoiler alert, dude. spoiler alert. :boo
so wait, magic isn't real ?
wtf man !
They would make me disappear from the audience.
Clowns too.
Creepy motherfargers all.
Wait - so a good long snapper, which we know is vital, needs to be cut because....well I don't see a legit reason other than igy is "like so over him omg"
How does one "get over" a long snapper anyway? I get it with someone like McNabb who spent a lot of time on camera and in front of the mic and was generally really corny, not to mention that it was tiresome after a while watching his worm burners and sideline pouting, but Dorenbos got more airtime in that 1 clip than he has in the last decade combined. He's on the field like maybe a dozen times a game. What's there to get over?
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 13, 2016, 12:20:53 PM
How does one "get over" a long snapper anyway? I get it with someone like McNabb who spent a lot of time on camera and in front of the mic and was generally really corny, not to mention that it was tiresome after a while watching his worm burners and sideline pouting, but Dorenbos got more airtime in that 1 clip than he has in the last decade combined. He's on the field like maybe a dozen times a game. What's there to get over?
he's a white guy who overcame a personal tragedy to become a productive nfl player for decade and is enjoying his life.
that bothers some people.
David Blaine is top10 people id want to chill with for a night.
Just remember to put a hat on it.
:-D
Dorenbos was a top tier LS for a long time. Last season, he sucked. Not just in one game. He was a bad LS. If that was just a fluke year, then fine. It happens. If it was because he's 50 years old and done, that should be revealed in camp. Even Doug Pederson should be able to figure out what to do.
well yeah, if the guy sucks in camp and there's a better option, toodles.
He's been up to my uncle's place a few times. Obviously not on game days but has done a few of his magic shows there for local pre-game show shtein. Apparently loves the place.
Rape basement magic show?!
that was actually a pretty cool trick.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 13, 2016, 07:12:59 PM
Rape basement magic show?!
It picks a card from the deck...
Pick a card from the farging deck!!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 13, 2016, 12:20:53 PM
How does one "get over" a long snapper anyway? I get it with someone like McNabb who spent a lot of time on camera and in front of the mic and was generally really corny, not to mention that it was tiresome after a while watching his worm burners and sideline pouting, but Dorenbos got more airtime in that 1 clip than he has in the last decade combined. He's on the field like maybe a dozen times a game. What's there to get over?
him and his whore wife have been all over philly media forever...he's annoying and try's to hard to be funny...plus he has a cult following if idiot eagle fans....he's also not good anymore...even with that I still said I hope he gets beat out...I didn't say they should cut him right now....but you can see the following he has and the hysterics it's puts people in if someone doesn't worship him..so I can see why people missed that
Dorenbos is too mainstream for you, got it.
The chain restaurant of long snappers?
Long Snapper Lives Matter
igy hates when players get media attention for the right reasons.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 14, 2016, 07:29:12 PM
The chain restaurant of long snappers?
the bro of the eagles...the same people who think a lot of girls make up rape plus the ones who think pimp was a gang banger = the biggest magician fans
Padded room and restraints are in your future
Kinky.
His latest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iokOJVtwrck
awaiting the whore wife comments.
Alright I liked that one.
Impressive. Used to think card tricks were lame until we recently attended a grad party and they had a card trick magician going table to table. Guy was not only hilarious he was amazing.
And WTF with hypnotists? It's the latest project grad rage. Guess it kills a an hour or so. Since I coach high school soccer we get invited to a lot of graduation parties and 4 of the 6 we attended this summer had a hypnotist. My son said every friend he knew that was called up said they weren't even close to being hypnotized (yes I know shocking) and we're actually told to go along with it by the hypnotist. Went to a party Saturday night and the second they started asking for volunteers my son and I both agreed "It's time to go" so I grabbed a beer for the road threw my son the car keys and got the hell out of there.
Quote from: Munson on July 27, 2016, 04:22:55 PM
Alright I liked that one.
I figured that one out. I so smurt
I have an acquaintance that does card tricks and, even though I was pretty drunk out of my mind every time it was still pretty damn good.
Legendz you are a smarter man than I when it comes to magic, I can't figure that shtein out at all.
Quote from: Don Ho on July 27, 2016, 05:48:17 PM
Used to think card tricks were lame
they still are
Quote from: Munson on July 27, 2016, 09:17:18 PM
I have an acquaintance that does card tricks and, even though I was pretty drunk out of my mind every time it was still pretty damn good.
Legendz you are a smarter man than I when it comes to magic, I can't figure that shtein out at all.
It's the brown bag. Second person is doing the drawings during the reveal to mimic them. Puts them in the bag. The guess who did the drawings is an irrelevant misdirect.
Drawings are revealed, other person does them, he has the bottle with an envelope in it. Then makes the obvious ridiculous request that it be smashed open with a hammer (instead of say having the paper in a plastic bottle that you could unscrew). So he invents an excuse for a 3rd party to give him the brown bag. Third party does with now the correct mimicked drawings. They get "smashed" and now he uses pliers to take out the slip of paper that's been in the brown bag the whole time.
If you'd open the brown bag or let someone else take it out you'd see there's another piece of paper (the one in the bottle the whole time) still in there. That's my assumption anyway.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-360/0ap3000000754300/NFL-360-Jon-Dorenbos-story-of-family-and-forgiveness
https://www.instagram.com/p/BaKg_cbnGOm/
Why would you say, "my wife held my hand every step of the way" but post a pic that she's not even in, let alone holding his magic hand
This is that Titanic shtein all over again. Why do women keep lying about holding hands?
Allowing them to vote and drive = worst decisions ever.
Wait, nevermind. Two pictures over and she's holding his hand.
He made her invisible in this one, obviously. And in that condition? Dude is GOOD.