Just reported at the end of SportsCenter.
now thats what i call a good extension
altho not a must id love to see a true #1 stud along side him
Nice. :yay Despite his semi-stone hands, I like what I see outta him. Any specifics on the deal yet?
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2006, 07:40:03 PM
now thats what i call a good extension
Solid DT? Wah wah wah!
Stone-hands WR? Hell yes!
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hes tied with steve smith in drops this year....or is that stone hands smith
QuoteEagles | R. Brown agrees to five-year contract extension
Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:40:58 -0800
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports the Philadelphia Eagles have agreed to a five-year contract extension with WR Reggie Brown. The deal includes $10 million in bonus money and could be worth between $21 million to $27 million, depending on incentives. Brown still has 3 1/2 years left on his rookie deal and is now locked up until the 2014 season.
Excellent. :yay
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2006, 07:44:46 PM
hes tied with steve smith in drops this year....or is that stone hands smith
OHMYGODREGGIEBROWNISASGOODASSTEVESMITH!
QuoteFOXSports.com has learned that the Eagles have agreed to a five-year extension with WR Reggie Brown that includes $10 million in bonus money. Brown, who still has 3½ years on his rookie deal, will now be locked up until 2014. The five-year deal could be worth between $21 to $27 million, depending on incentives.
So does any of this count against this year's cap? I thought the deadline for that was on the 7th. ???
unless its somehow retroactive to the deadline then they missed it as far as getting any on this years cap...and really thats inexcusable...if you were that close to getting it done close the deal 48 hrs ago
It'll be on next years cap. Well, most of it.
This deadline was to add salary and pro-rated salary bonus to this year.
Now they can only add pro-rated signing bonuses, not any salary.
Spads response a few days ago;
QuoteBefore the deadline, they could structure salary AND bonus into this year's cap. AFTER the deadline, they can only have the pro-rated signing bonus count against this year's cap.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2006, 07:40:03 PM
now thats what i call a good extension
altho not a must id love to see a true #1 stud along side him
If Stallworth can get his hammys in order... I love the thought of him and Brown together for the next few/several years.
So was I right about the initial deadline being the 7th? Please say yes because that'll make me feel smert. Like Joe Banner smert.
You were correct.
But don't get it twisted. You still suck.
Quote from: SunMo on November 09, 2006, 07:48:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2006, 07:44:46 PM
hes tied with steve smith in drops this year....or is that stone hands smith
OHMYGODREGGIEBROWNISASGOODASSTEVESMITH!
NOITSCHADJOHNSONGETITRIGHT!
If Stallworth can get his hammys in order... I love the thought of him and Brown together for the next few/several years.
id like that a lot...id love to get a stud #1 tho...at least as long as andy is the coach
Doesn't he lead the league in drops? What the farg is going on here?
hes tied for the most drops with steve smith who has had his drops in two less games
This thread's making me laugh. Because I don't think there's anyone here who would take Brown over Smith. Ever.
not suggesting anyone would...but if reggie is not worth this money is steve smith not worth his money simply because they both have dropped passes this year
I dont care if the Patterson extension was premature, the Eagles 05 draft is turning out to be awesome.
Wow, alot has changed in the last few days since I have been gone. They resign Brown and Cole, Ritchie says the team is a mess. Interesing.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on November 09, 2006, 08:47:41 PM
Wow, alot has changed in the last few days since I have been gone. They resign Brown and Cole, Ritchie says the team is a mess. Interesing.
Other than that, it's been pretty routine over the last few days....... McNabb threw up again, Buckhalter blew out his knee, Andy Reid ate alot, Trotter prayed, LJ Smith fumbled trying to gain more yardage, Mike Lewis got beat deep and we almost signed Kevin Johnson and traded for Erlackerz.
Ya know.....the usual.
So Reid's idea of getting the team prepared is shelling out the dough and getting some extensions done. Reggie Brown better not drop a god damn pass the next game.
word is he dropped the pen when signing the contract.
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Stallworth/Reggie/Baskett/Avant/Lewis= :yay
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 09, 2006, 08:23:46 PM
hes tied for the most drops with steve smith who has had his drops in two less games
I'm nominating this for worst post of the year. You've got to be kidding me with even bringing Steve Smith into this conversation. In two less games SS has what, 130 more yards? He's single handedly led his team to a couple of victories and makes their offense potent on his own.
Seriously. I mean. Christ.
Brown has 7 drops in 8 games which is 14 per regular season. At this rate, when his new extension kicks in, his base salary will be about $300,000 per drop, plus incentives.
Really though, looks he will only be making $4-5 million a year around 2011 - 2014. By that time, $4-5 mil will be nothing for a decent WR. The 10 year veteran minimum might be half that much by 2014.
What the hell is with extending all these underachievers? Is Buck next?
they obviously just needed to be catapulted into unnecessarily rich instead of just really rich status to start performing up to expectations.
I'm nominating this for worst post of the year. You've got to be kidding me with even bringing Steve Smith into this conversation. In two less games SS has what, 130 more yards? He's single handedly led his team to a couple of victories and makes their offense potent on his own.
youre missing the point....the worst post of the year would be to suggest that reggie brown not get an extension because he has some drops this year...why bring up the fact that ss has more yards than him...he should shouldnt he since hes a better wr?...
if you want to say reggie brown shouldnt get an extension because you think he stinks then thats fine...but to single out he shouldnt get a contract simply because of drops in the first eight games of the year then thats ridiculous and ill say that steve smith doesnt deserve what hes getting as he has the same number of drops in less games and has two and half times fewer touchdowns as reggie brown...in fact stever smith has five more drops than he does td's this year...but all that doesnt matter because we know steve smith is a great wr...
therefore you must also use the same thinking with reggie...yeah he has some drops this year but in the big picture is he worth the extension or not...i think he is and can be a very good #2 guy...they finally have a guy who appears to be more than solid and will have this offense down pat in a couple more years...why let someone like that go when we know it takes four years minimum for a wr to learn this ridiculous offense and the track record for drafting wr's here has been putrid...oh but all that stuff doesnt matter....get rid of him he has to many drops this year
Look at how smart we are for drafting guys and then signing them to extensions!
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Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2006, 06:24:35 AM
youre missing the point....the worst post of the year would be to suggest that reggie brown not get an extension because he has some drops this year...why bring up the fact that ss has more yards than him...he should shouldnt he since hes a better wr?...
if you want to say reggie brown shouldnt get an extension because you think he stinks then thats fine...but to single out he shouldnt get a contract simply because of drops in the first eight games of the year then thats ridiculous and ill say that steve smith doesnt deserve what hes getting as he has the same number of drops in less games and has two and half times fewer touchdowns as reggie brown...in fact stever smith has five more drops than he does td's this year...but all that doesnt matter because we know steve smith is a great wr...
therefore you must also use the same thinking with reggie...yeah he has some drops this year but in the big picture is he worth the extension or not...i think he is and can be a very good #2 guy...they finally have a guy who appears to be more than solid and will have this offense down pat in a couple more years...why let someone like that go when we know it takes four years minimum for a wr to learn this ridiculous offense and the track record for drafting wr's here has been putrid...oh but all that stuff doesnt matter....get rid of him he has to many drops this year
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2006, 04:07:44 AM
What the hell is with extending all these underachievers? Is Buck next?
Exactly.
IGY, you of all people know that this team settles for what they have rather than going out and improving themselves. This is a perfect example of that. And now they're signing up to settle for the next EIGHT YEARS. They're rewarding players for underachieving. I'm not saying that they shouldn't sign him for his drops, though 7 drops through half a season is ridiculous. I'm saying that they could have easily waited until he actually proves to be a consistent player before throwing money at him. He's got what, 3 and a half years left on his contract? Jesus Christ.
i dont think having reggie brown as your #2 wr is settling
if you think hes a #3 or 4 then thats where we disagree
I don't think Brown has underachieved one bit. I just don't see him as a true #1 receiver. It's not his fault that the Eagles see him that way either. He is what he is: A good possession receiver. Nothing more, nothing less.
he has five touchdowns this year and averages over 15 yards a catch...thats not a possesion receiver
he is a solid #2 nfl wr right now and has a chance to be a great #2
Actually, those stats make him a possession receiver precisely, IGY.
He's an inconsistent player who they had locked up for a few more years. Why shell out now? I like Reggie too. He's a starting caliber player. But why sign him now, while he's in the middle of a season that has been so up and down? Why not wait until you know what you have? 10+ drops a year sucks and if that's going to be a constant, I wouldn't want him on the team for the better part of a decade.
He's an inconsistent player who they had locked up for a few more years. Why shell out now?
because hes showed that he has the ability to become an excellent #2 guy...as opposed to someone like patterson who has showed pretty much nothing to warrant an extension...id rather lock up reggie now for the rest of his career and be set at that #2 wr spot for solid money than to let him get better while he approachs the end of his contract and then wants to get caked off reggie wayne style and the eagles are left with having to let someone go as the colts did with edgerrin james
seems like you would not ever extend anyone until they get near the end of their deal...i think the eagles go overboard on the extensiopns but i also think there are times when its warranted...because there are times when youre gonna run into a situation where they are now with lj...a guy whos developed into one of the better pass catching te's in the league and who probably is going to jet for big money and leave the eagles with matt schobel as their te next year
Brown is certainly not a possession receiver. That would indicate a higher level of consistency than he's shown.
I like him as a #2 quite a bit because of his ability to make big plays. He's got a ceiling infinitely higher than Pinkston's ever was and actually has a physical component of his play that is nice to see. BUT, the team's going to try to sell us on him being a #1 for years to come as they cut Stallworth loose because of inability to reach a long-term deal with Rosenhaus, thanks to his nagging injury clouding the situation.
Brown/Baskett/Lewis/Avant through 2011. Yay team.
the team's going to try to sell us on him being a #1 for years to come
that IS the relevant issue here
not extending reggie brown
Reggie Brown could be a 1b on a team that emphasizes the run.
That team is not the Andy Reid Eagles.
I don't know where you folks are getting your stats, but according to
MURP, who I trust hella more than any other source on the subject, he's dropped 10:
QuoteAnother game, another pile of dropped passes. The drops are not being fixed yet and it is starting to hurt the Eagles. During the TV broadcast, Brian Baldinger actually said that if the Eagles backs and WR's would catch the ball more consistently the Eagles would break all of the NFL passing records. I don't know about that, but I do know that McNabbs stats would be much improved. Obviously wins are the most important thing, but McNabb has taken a lot of heat over the years for having a below average completion percentage. McNabb has his share of horrible throws, but take a look at this stat: The Eagles have dropped 40 passes this season so far. FOURTY! McNabbs current completion percentage is 59.3%. Even if the drops were only cut in half so far this year, McNabbs completion percentage would be 68%. That is unreal.
Dropped Passes Week 8 vs. Bucs
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Westbrook: 2
Schobel: 2
Brown: 1
Smith: 1
Season Total Dropped passes
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Brown: 10
LJ Smith: 7
Westbrook: 7
Baskett: 5
Stallworth: 5
Schoebel: 3
Tapeh: 2
Lewis: 1
http://eagleswarroom.com/home/
stats inc has him at seven...of course drops are an incredibly subjective statistic...
who you gonna trust...Stats Inc., or your own boy who is poring over game tape each week to update his hobby fan site? I've seen at least seven drops in the five games I've watched with my own eyes..
I would also hazard a guess that Smith has been targeted more than Brown, despite his two game absence.
1. Brown is not a possession guy. A possession guy is Keyshawn Johnson or Joe Jurevicius.
2. The fact that Reggie is playing like he is and he was DRAFTED by this team is a good sign. This team blew ass at identifying WR talent in the draft and they finally have hit on one.
3. Remind yourselves that this is only his 2nd year. He is getting better and will continue to do so.
4. Also remind yourselves that these contracts are window dressing and if he does suck then they cut him ala Pinkston or any other NFL player. His SB is not huge so eating that in 2-3 years if he kills himself or whatever is no problem. It seems like people are so ready to rip this team that no one is using their brain. "Oh my! Everyone sucks! No one is good! Fire them all!" Stop.
5. Finally people should realize that this team is going to have about $30M in cap space next season. That was after the Cole and Patterson deals and before the Brown deal. They can add talent if they so choose to do so. None of these contracts are going to hinder the pursuit of FA's.
well the guys at stats inc and elias get paid to do this stuff and sports leagues depend on them to get it 'right'
i dont trust anyone on what a drop is and i believe everyone...as i said a drop to one person is a bad throw to another...too much bias is involved...if you dont like reggie brown it was a drop...if you dont like mcnabb its a bad pass
i think it was you and others fighting over pinky and his ball in the lights play...perfect example...is that a drop cause he didnt go for it...or was it not catchable...
if someone dives out for a ball its hits their hands and they drop what would have been an great catch is it a good try or a drop
too much grey area
To me a "possession receiver" is a #2 guy who complements a true #1 receiver. John Taylor comes to mind when I think of Reggie Brown.
Regardless, I wasn't disparaging Reggie by labeling him as a #2 guy. Again, he is what he is. He's never going to be a true #1, though. If you guys think that, well... I'll agree to disagree then.
it's no coincidence that igy champions nuance, context, subjectivity when it suits his argument. comparing Brown's drops to Smith is ludicrous. Brown has shown that his has mediocre hands, at best. Smith is irreproachable at this point in his career.
btw, I like the signing. Just not the stupid comparison to Steve Smith. Brown needs to improve his hands considerably for this draft pick/extension to go down as the first good WR of Andy's reign.
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Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 10, 2006, 09:07:05 AM
To me a "possession receiver" is a #2 guy who complements a true #1 receiver. John Taylor comes to mind when I think of Reggie Brown.
Regardless, I wasn't disparaging Reggie by labeling him as a #2 guy. Again, he is what he is. He's never going to be a true #1, though. If you guys think that, well... I'll agree to disagree then.
How can you say he'll never be a 1? We don't know yet. He's got the speed and the ability to get open and get separation. He needs to be more consistent though.
My view on a possession guy is a guy who moves the sticks and doesn't have a high YPC. I'd classify Taylor as a complimentary receiver.
T.O. = true #1.
Steve Smith = true #1.
Marvin Harrison = true #1.
Reggie Brown is not in that class. Not even close, bro. He's a good receiver. He's got good speed, good route-running discipline, and can beat other "good" cornerbacks. He's not a game changer like a true #1 guy would be. At least he's never shown that ability in his time with the Birds.
Whatever, though. I'm fine with the signing. He's a good player and if the Eagles get someone of the caliber of the three guys I mentioned above, he'll have a nice career in Philly. If not, he'll be miscast as a #1 by a regime that can't seem to find one with both hands.
Was Steve Smith looked at as a "true #1" in his second year (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/235157)? No. It wasn't until his third year, second as a full time starter, that he blew up and said he was a stud WR.
Even Owens wasn't considered a true #1 in his 2nd year.
Give him time. If he can be more consistent I believe he will be a much better. And he's already pretty good now.
I'd be happy if he proved me wrong, Jay. I've been on his bandwagon since his first mini-camp, after all.
I just don't see Reggie as a "special" player. He's good for sure. Prognosticating greatness for him is a stretch, though.
At least that's how I see it, anyhow.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2006, 08:32:36 AM
He's an inconsistent player who they had locked up for a few more years. Why shell out now?
because hes showed that he has the ability to become an excellent #2 guy...as opposed to someone like patterson who has showed pretty much nothing to warrant an extension...id rather lock up reggie now for the rest of his career and be set at that #2 wr spot for solid money than to let him get better while he approachs the end of his contract and then wants to get caked off reggie wayne style and the eagles are left with having to let someone go as the colts did with edgerrin james
seems like you would not ever extend anyone until they get near the end of their deal...i think the eagles go overboard on the extensiopns but i also think there are times when its warranted...because there are times when youre gonna run into a situation where they are now with lj...a guy whos developed into one of the better pass catching te's in the league and who probably is going to jet for big money and leave the eagles with matt schobel as their te next year
Fine, those are all reasonable points. I just don't understand it and think that it sends a strange message to the rest of the players. "Play inconsistently and you'll get a big signing bonus and a contract extension."
No one is holding any of the players to any sort of performance or consistency standard and it's irritating as all hell.
Hey, I could be wrong too. But I like what I see from him. Hell, he made good, well as good as he could, with Mike McMahon as his primary QB last season. The Torrance Small shtein has to stop though. He needs to be like Hot Hands in The Little Giants and picture the ball as a roll of toilet paper. Toilet humor suits him too since he equated a loss to a floating turd duringa WIP interview a few weeks back. They play a soundbyte of him saying "turd" all the time. :-D
Reggie Brown infuriates me with his drops, but he is probably most talented WR the Eagles have had since Reid was here other than TO.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 10, 2006, 09:02:18 AM
if someone dives out for a ball its hits their hands and they drop what would have been an great catch is it a good try or a drop
too much grey area
No. Drops are counted when the ball can be caught with a normal amount of effort. Diving for the ball would be counted as uncatchable, even if it did hit the receiver in the hands.
His point is still the same, although his example is flawed. Drops are a subjective stat. But if one source says 7 drops and another says 8 and another says 10, I'm comfortable with taking a rough average. It's not like one source has him at 2 drops and another has him at 20. It's all in a fairly close range of numbers and that range of numbers is WAY too high.
Quote from: MURP on November 10, 2006, 10:36:43 AM
Reggie Brown infuriates me with his drops, but he is probably most talented WR the Eagles have had since Reid was here other than TO.
Stallworth is more talented, IMO.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 10, 2006, 09:26:05 AM
I'd be happy if he proved me wrong, Jay. I've been on his bandwagon since his first mini-camp, after all.
I just don't see Reggie as a "special" player. He's good for sure. Prognosticating greatness for him is a stretch, though.
At least that's how I see it, anyhow.
I think what Phreak is saying is that it's too early to prognosticate ANYTHING for Reggie already. If it's a stretch for Phreak to call him "the next Chad Johnson", then it's a stretch for you to say that he'll never be more than a #2 WR.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 10, 2006, 11:14:27 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 10, 2006, 09:26:05 AM
I'd be happy if he proved me wrong, Jay. I've been on his bandwagon since his first mini-camp, after all.
I just don't see Reggie as a "special" player. He's good for sure. Prognosticating greatness for him is a stretch, though.
At least that's how I see it, anyhow.
I think what Phreak is saying is that it's too early to prognosticate ANYTHING for Reggie already. If it's a stretch for Phreak to call him "the next Chad Johnson", then it's a stretch for you to say that he'll never be more than a #2 WR.
And it's also too early for him to be getting an extension. Just like everyone that has yet to prove their worth.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 10, 2006, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 10, 2006, 11:14:27 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 10, 2006, 09:26:05 AM
I'd be happy if he proved me wrong, Jay. I've been on his bandwagon since his first mini-camp, after all.
I just don't see Reggie as a "special" player. He's good for sure. Prognosticating greatness for him is a stretch, though.
At least that's how I see it, anyhow.
I think what Phreak is saying is that it's too early to prognosticate ANYTHING for Reggie already. If it's a stretch for Phreak to call him "the next Chad Johnson", then it's a stretch for you to say that he'll never be more than a #2 WR.
And it's also too early for him to be getting an extension. Just like everyone that has yet to prove their worth.
Well... that goes back to what IGY and rjs were talking about earlier in the thread.
(In Reggie's case)... Is it better to extend him earlier on as he's getting better so they get him at a better value, or should they wait until the end of his deal once he's blossomed and can demand much more money making him that much harder to sign?
Reggie is the man. Love it.
Just cut down the drops and you'll be BAAALLIIIIN
Idiot.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 10, 2006, 12:20:43 PM
(In Reggie's case)... Is it better to extend him earlier on as he's getting better so they get him at a better value, or should they wait until the end of his deal once he's blossomed and can demand much more money making him that much harder to sign?
Thats a good question. You take a chance either way. You also take the chance that if he does end up getting better, makes the pro-bowl and gets pissed about the contract he has, so he holds out demanding a new, better deal.
Great avatar by the way there Feva.
Quote"The Eagles have a history of being, I guess, not the most giving organization when it comes to money," Smith said. "I told my agent that I am not trying to ask for a whole lot of money, and I'm not trying to break the bank. I'm trying to be fair."
:-D
L.J. Smith = Washington taterskin in 2008?
Quote"The Eagles have a history of being, I guess, not the most giving organization when it comes to money," Smith said. "I told my agent that I am not trying to ask for a whole lot of money, and I'm not trying to break the bank. I'm trying to be fair."
What would everyone consider fair money/contract for L.J? I really have no idea. Maybe $5M a year.
QuoteBrown's average of 19.3 yards per catch is best among receivers with at least 25 receptions
Interesting.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 11, 2006, 08:20:35 AM
Quote"The Eagles have a history of being, I guess, not the most giving organization when it comes to money," Smith said. "I told my agent that I am not trying to ask for a whole lot of money, and I'm not trying to break the bank. I'm trying to be fair."
:-D
L.J. Smith = Washington taterskin in 2008?
It's starting to look that way. I'm not too high on L.J. & the fact that he doesn't have an extension makes me think the team doesn't either. I think the Eagles throw their money around for certain positions & players they think are key, I don't think they see LJ as either.
As much talent as I think L.J. has and as much as I crave RJS' approval, I wouldn't be heartbroken if L.J. left. He is one of those guys who keeps getting listed as jumping to the next level every year in sports mags but he never does. Not to mention he can't block and he carries the ball like a queer carries a purse.
Quote from: NGM on November 11, 2006, 12:14:30 PMhe carries the ball like a queer carries a purse.
So totally not true. Queers don't fumble their purses.
lj is one of the best pass catching te's in the nfl and is perfect for the offense as long as andy reid is calling 65% passing plays...it would be a mistake to let him go
Brown's average of 19.3 yards per catch is best among receivers with at least 25 receptions
its also the best among possesion receivers
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2006, 01:51:51 PM
lj is one of the best pass catching te's in the nfl and is perfect for the offense as long as andy reid is calling 65% passing plays...it would be a mistake to let him go
Totally agree.
He's arguably the #2 passing option on this team. As long as we throw the ball as much as we do... he's a big weapon to have. Andy's offense is all about mismatches... and LJ is a big one.
The Eagles need to get him a contract.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 11, 2006, 01:51:51 PM
Brown's average of 19.3 yards per catch is best among receivers with at least 25 receptions
its also the best among possesion receivers
I think he drops the short ones on purpose to keep his average up.
Can I ask what may seem like a stupid question....
....why do the Eagles extend contracts of 2nd year players? Particularly ones who, despite being solid football players, haven't exactly shown Pro Bowl stuff.
I am not criticizing, I cant because the taterskins are probably the most poorly run team in terms of personnel this side of Oakland but I really just don't understand this and I find myself wondering why they woud do it.
Since you asked nicely...
The money they spend on these contracts when the player is still very young is a pittance compared to what would happen if they start really kicking ass. Even if the player bottoms out, the Eagles aren't really much worse off financially. Also, the player gets a nice windfall at a very early stage in his career, and the present value of money is much more to a guy than deferred dollars.
They have two cautionary tales (at least) to tell to players who don't take these types of deals and plan to hold out for the big contract when their rookie deal is up: Damon Moore, and now Michael Lewis.
QuoteMarc Narducci, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports Philadelphia Eagles WR Reggie Brown called signing a five-year contract extension a difficult decision. Brown said, "It was a tough decision. But you either gamble or just go for what you think is right. I weighed all those options and made my decision." Brown is under contract with the Eagles until 2014 after signing a contract believed to be worth up to $28.6 million if certain incentives are met. William Johnson, Brown's agent, said the $10 million bonus was the major selling point. Johnson added, "If that doesn't provide financial security, then something is wrong. And I would die if Reggie suffered an injury down the line and had turned that type of money down."
The present value of money should reign supreme in the minds of these young guys. Money up front is obviously more valuable than money deferred down the line. Good explanation, Freddie.
Reggie Brown is a good, solid signing. I've been critical of his drops, but his big play ability and his knack to make a big play is probably worth that up front money.
Right now in his career, I equate Reggie Brown to a physical Todd Pinkston. When Pinkston was serviceable he would make some outstanding catches, but then drop the really easy ones or gets scared out of his cleets. With Reggie, he makes some really outstanding catches (mostly in the end zone), but then drops the little short junk that is imperative in a West-Coast scheme. He needs to be more consistent on that level, and then this deal will be an absolute steal.
The good thing is that he's shown to be talented and he's shown that he can make a big play and take it the distance. I don't think you can teach that. The 6, 7, 8 yard drops, however, is something that is readily correctable as long as the person keeps their concentration. Reggie just needs to concentrate more and make those short catches and realize that he doesn't have to take it the distance on every catch. Helping your team to move the chains can be infinitely more valuable than trying to make a big play on every play.
Quote from: Eaglez on November 12, 2006, 11:31:08 AM
Right now in his career, I equate Reggie Brown to a physical Todd Pinkston. When Pinkston was serviceable he would make some outstanding catches, but then drop the really easy ones or gets scared out of his cleets.
Most all our receivers drop short passes. I think one reason is that they never know were the bullet is gonna' hit. McNabb never hits his receivers on the money consistantly. If his receivers could count on the ball being on their numbers more often, you might not see all those drops from short passes.
Thats my theory anywayz.
ocho seis :yay
great use of the timeout Andy
ha. wrong thread.
Extend Stallworth ASAP.
Also, he's the only WR we have that can do a double move effectively.
Meh. It was a decent move, but Taylor really eats ass in coverage.
You're crazy, man. Taylor is easily the best safety in the NFL. Blown coverage, missed tackles and all.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 12, 2006, 07:39:05 PM
You're crazy, man. Taylor is easily the best safety in the NFL. Blown coverage, missed tackles and all.
You forgot incurring retarded penalties...
;)
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on November 12, 2006, 07:42:14 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 12, 2006, 07:39:05 PM
You're crazy, man. Taylor is easily the best safety in the NFL. Blown coverage, missed tackles and all.
You forgot incurring retarded penalties...
;)
I have to admit... I kind of enjoyed watching him try to take Reno's head off on that return, though. If they had a 50-yard variety of facemasks, that would have been one.
Payback for Portis nearly being turned into a human Pez-dispenser?
Portis is not vital to that offense. Betts and Duckett ran fine against the Eagles.
Simply, Brunell's old and skiddish. They need to see if Jason Campbell can play... now.
They needed to see if Jason Campbell could play about two months ago.
Brunell = creaky washed-up fossil just like his head coach.
QuoteThey needed to see if Jason Campbell could play about two months ago.
Brunell = creaky washed-up fossil just like his head coach.
That's the most cold blooded post I have read in some time.
And your rhiyming of Homer with Homer was exquisite.
Quote"It was a hook-and-lateral all the way. I'm sticking to my story," Brown said with a smile before admitting he lost control of the ball. "I guess I didn't have it secure."
HOOK AND LATERAL!
i loved how he did his Pinkston impression early in the game yesterday
yeah that was pretty disgusting
Brown would be getting crucified right now if not for Cbuck.