Jon Ritchie on Cold Pizza. Asked whats wrong with the Eagles. His answer not word for word.
Eagles scheme is set up to be a big play team. Eagles want to be the St L Rams greatest show on turf but don't have the players. They keep spending money upgrading interior linemen contracts midyear to save money in the long run and won't spend money on WRs. Can't be big play O without big play receivers. After the TO deal they won't spend big money on Wr again. Without the big play receivers need to run the ball. Can't do that. Don't have the linemen or RBs to do that. In a tonado at Jacksonville they ran the ball 15 times.
His final comment....Its a mess.
I saw that too.
Ritchie is already the best analyst on ESPN. He's done like to shows and is better than the rest of the slop they have working there.
Get Ritchie as next OC of the Eagles.
WTF is a tonado?
Quote from: Eagles 3x on November 08, 2006, 01:02:46 PM
Jon Ritchie on Cold Pizza<stop> Asked whats wrong with the Eagles<stop> His answer not word for word<stop>
Eagles scheme is set up to be a big play team<stop> Eagles want to be the St L Rams greatest show on turf but don't have the players<stop> They keep spending money upgrading interior linemen contracts midyear to save money in the long run and won't spend money on WRs<stop> Can't be big play O without big play receivers<stop> After the TO deal they won't spend big money on Wr again<stop> Without the big play receivers need to run the ball<stop> Can't do that<stop> Don't have the linemen or RBs to do that. In a tonado at Jacksonville they ran the ball 15 times<stop>
His final comment....Its a mess<end message>
i just read this like it was a telegram
<stop>
:-D
if every farging sports analyst, and every armchair quarterback, and every blogger, etc can see the Eagles issues, WHY THE farg can't Andy&Co see the problems too?
As I said before, Eagles coaching has lost their "feel" for the game.
They never had a feel for the game. They've done what they wanted to do regardless of the players they have.
^^^^^
listen
But playing to the strength of your personnel would totally not take the opposition by surprise!
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 03:39:24 PM
But playing to the strength of your personnel would totally not take the opposition by surprise!
This man speaketh the trutheth.
Richie's comments got me thinking a little though...... exactly what is the Eagles strength offensively?
They don't have the personnel to be a running team like Pittsburgh (last year).
They don't have the personnel to run a high powered offense like Vermeil's Rams.
They don't have the personnel to run a true version of the WCO like the old 49ers teams because their recievers can't catch.
So other than McNabb running around behind the LOS, puking and throwing balls in the dirt, just what is this team's identity? Screen passes?
So other than McNabb running around behind the LOS, puking and throwing balls in the dirt
lolololol
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2006, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 03:39:24 PM
But playing to the strength of your personnel would totally not take the opposition by surprise!
This man speaketh the trutheth.
Richie's comments got me thinking a little though...... exactly what is the Eagles strength offensively?
They don't have the personnel to be a running team like Pittsburgh (last year).
They don't have the personnel to run a high powered offense like Vermeil's Rams.
They don't have the personnel to run a true version of the WCO like the old 49ers teams because their recievers can't catch.
So other than McNabb running around behind the LOS, puking and throwing balls in the dirt, just what is this team's identity? Screen passes?
:-D A picture of McNabb doing that is very vivid in my head.
Quote from: General_Failure on November 08, 2006, 02:17:27 PM
They never had a feel for the game. They've done what they wanted to do regardless of the players they have.
Reminds me of the old Florida / Spurrier days - he always had the attitude that his gameplan was perfect, his players just didn't execute.
When we see the Eagles throw the ball on 3rd and 1 and it gets dropped, we think "damnit, if he would have run the ball, they would have picked up the first down"
Andy thinks, "darnit, that was the perfect play call - he just didn't catch the ball"
Guess what big guy...you need to adjust your game plan to the strengths
and weaknesses of your own team before you start worrying about the other guys...
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 08, 2006, 04:13:36 PM
Screen passes?
Nope. They're not even good at those anymore, because the other team sees them coming a mile away.
Failed screen passes?
Let's call them "telegraphed screen passes" instead.
They also, apparently, can hang their hats on predictable audibles.
Is it just me or were the receivers catching the ball just fine and mcnabb was leading the best/big play offense in the nfl until the recent meltdown? it's not like it wasn't working early. i guess you can argue the teams were garbage early, but that doesn't justify dropped passes. i mean give the players alittle credit.
2nd and 10 = run.
Is it just me or were the receivers catching the ball just fine and mcnabb was leading the best/big play offense in the nfl until the recent meltdown?
its not about what they did in weeks 2-4 of any season....and they could come out this weekend and put 40 on the board and it wouldnt matter....the concern is can this kind of offense win a superbowl..and the answer is a resounding NO
I don't even want to think about what happens to this offense at the end of the year when it gets cold as shtein and windy as hell because we know Andy won't change his 45 pass/15 run gameplan. It'll make the games at New York, Washington and Dallas interesting to say the least.
The philosophy needs to change.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 08, 2006, 05:06:27 PM
2nd and 10 = run.
My buddy attented the JAX game and said that on 2nd and long, the whole crowd was screaming "WESTBROOK UP THE MIDDLE!" because they knew it was coming.
He also said he saw some guys get kicked out after they held up the following signs:
Sign 1: "Bench the STILLUPFRONT*"
Sign 2: "Put in the HBIONIC*"
*If you have to ask, move along.
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
Is it just me or were the receivers catching the ball just fine and mcnabb was leading the best/big play offense in the nfl until the recent meltdown?
its not about what they did in weeks 2-4 of any season....and they could come out this weekend and put 40 on the board and it wouldnt matter....the concern is can this kind of offense win a superbowl..and the answer is a resounding NO
Oh I couldn't agree more. I was just pointing out that were have the potential to be that big play offense. Reid is an idiot though and doesn't change up his playcalling for diff. teams/schemes etc...He just continues to be the most obvious playcaller in the NFL. Woe is Us.
Here's a sloppy pile of shtein from Sam Rayburn:
Quote"I don't know if it's pride that has been hurt as much as it is ego. We thought we had this aura about us, like we were unbeatable and we could go out and things would fall at our feet. That's not the way you can play in a league that is so close. Everybody has good players and everybody can make plays. We just have to go out and execute rather than going out trying not to get beat."
Cut Rayburn.
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2006, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
Is it just me or were the receivers catching the ball just fine and mcnabb was leading the best/big play offense in the nfl until the recent meltdown?
its not about what they did in weeks 2-4 of any season....and they could come out this weekend and put 40 on the board and it wouldnt matter....the concern is can this kind of offense win a superbowl..and the answer is a resounding NO
Oh I couldn't agree more. I was just pointing out that were have the potential to be that big play offense. Reid is an idiot though and doesn't change up his playcalling for diff. teams/schemes etc...He just continues to be the most obvious playcaller in the NFL. Woe is Us.
They have more than potential... the Eagles DO have the big play offense. The problem is that's all they have. If there's not someone breaking a play for 60 yards on a scoring drive... the score doesn't happen. They don't have the ability to sustain a methodical drive down the field. Think about it. When's the last time this offense had a double digit play scoring drive?
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 05:43:05 PM
Here's a sloppy pile of shtein from Sam Rayburn:
Quote"I don't know if it's pride that has been hurt as much as it is ego. We thought we had this aura about us, like we were unbeatable and we could go out and things would fall at our feet. That's not the way you can play in a league that is so close. Everybody has good players and everybody can make plays. We just have to go out and execute rather than going out trying not to get beat."
Cut Rayburn.
Is he talking about the team or about Andy?
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 08, 2006, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2006, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
Is it just me or were the receivers catching the ball just fine and mcnabb was leading the best/big play offense in the nfl until the recent meltdown?
its not about what they did in weeks 2-4 of any season....and they could come out this weekend and put 40 on the board and it wouldnt matter....the concern is can this kind of offense win a superbowl..and the answer is a resounding NO
Oh I couldn't agree more. I was just pointing out that were have the potential to be that big play offense. Reid is an idiot though and doesn't change up his playcalling for diff. teams/schemes etc...He just continues to be the most obvious playcaller in the NFL. Woe is Us.
They have more than potential... the Eagles DO have the big play offense. The problem is that's all they have. If there's not someone breaking a play for 60 yards on a scoring drive... the score doesn't happen. They don't have the ability to sustain a methodical drive down the field. Think about it. When's the last time this offense had a double digit play scoring drive?
Drive? Whats a drive?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 08, 2006, 05:06:27 PM
2nd and 10 = run.
That's only because 1st and 10 = pass.
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 08, 2006, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2006, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
Is it just me or were the receivers catching the ball just fine and mcnabb was leading the best/big play offense in the nfl until the recent meltdown?
its not about what they did in weeks 2-4 of any season....and they could come out this weekend and put 40 on the board and it wouldnt matter....the concern is can this kind of offense win a superbowl..and the answer is a resounding NO
Oh I couldn't agree more. I was just pointing out that were have the potential to be that big play offense. Reid is an idiot though and doesn't change up his playcalling for diff. teams/schemes etc...He just continues to be the most obvious playcaller in the NFL. Woe is Us.
They have more than potential... the Eagles DO have the big play offense. The problem is that's all they have. If there's not someone breaking a play for 60 yards on a scoring drive... the score doesn't happen. They don't have the ability to sustain a methodical drive down the field. Think about it. When's the last time this offense had a double digit play scoring drive?
2001?
Quote from: EagleFeva on November 08, 2006, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2006, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
Is it just me or were the receivers catching the ball just fine and mcnabb was leading the best/big play offense in the nfl until the recent meltdown?
its not about what they did in weeks 2-4 of any season....and they could come out this weekend and put 40 on the board and it wouldnt matter....the concern is can this kind of offense win a superbowl..and the answer is a resounding NO
Oh I couldn't agree more. I was just pointing out that were have the potential to be that big play offense. Reid is an idiot though and doesn't change up his playcalling for diff. teams/schemes etc...He just continues to be the most obvious playcaller in the NFL. Woe is Us.
They have more than potential... the Eagles DO have the big play offense. The problem is that's all they have. If there's not someone breaking a play for 60 yards on a scoring drive... the score doesn't happen. They don't have the ability to sustain a methodical drive down the field. Think about it. When's the last time this offense had a double digit play scoring drive?
2005
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 08, 2006, 05:06:27 PM
2nd and 10 = run.
3rd and 9 = draw.
They can be a clock controlling offense. The numbers show that Westbrook runs better with a blocker in front of him, and certainly better than Buck with no blocker. Even without a blocking TE, the offensive line is huge and able to mow over people. Without a blocking TE or a FB, they're semi-useless. The fullback is nearly uninvolved in this offense, and that is unacceptable. Reid's got his 3 WR sets, his double TE sets, and he farging teased us with the Cole/Tapeh backfield in preseason. It worked, he saw it worked, and he threw it away. Why? To call more passes. The guy wants 45 passes a game, no matter how many plays the offense has.
Run Westbrook behind Tapeh on first down. Run Buck behind Tapeh on second down, or call a pass once in a while. Run Westbrook behind Tapeh in the event of a third down. Before you know it, the offense will have eaten seven minutes off the clock.
I long for the days of the dink pass, those short but cheap 5 yard dinks over the middle that other teams use to exploit us would do wonders for this offense. That's not to say they should live and die by it but its a better option at 2nd and 8 than a 30 yard pass to Baskett is.
I think Andy Reid still thinks it's some big suprise to pass on first down, and then after the incompletion, run on 2nd and 10.
Uhhh...Andy....this doesn't shock anyone in the NFL. Just lettin you know. :yay
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 05:36:29 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 08, 2006, 05:06:27 PM
2nd and 10 = run.
My buddy attented the JAX game and said that on 2nd and long, the whole crowd was screaming "WESTBROOK UP THE MIDDLE!" because they knew it was coming.
He also said he saw some guys get kicked out after they held up the following signs:
Sign 1: "Bench the STILLUPFRONT*"
Sign 2: "Put in the HBIONIC*"
*If you have to ask, move along.
Thats the stupidest shtein I've heard in a while. I don't care how bad he looked last game, you want the Eagles to really suck then put in noodle armed Garcia.
I didn't say I agreed with putting in Garcia or anything, but the situation is fairly amusing.
Some guys probably lost their seat licenses over that crap.
eagles dead last in TOP in the nfl...not gonna get it done (admittedly the defense shoulders some of the blame)
When they start the game 7 minutes in the hole, yeah. The defense should get some of the blame.
The Eagles put themselves in way too many 2nd and long and 3rd and long.
I agree, the Eagles need more 4, 5, 6 yard dink passes. Maybe a run on first down, or a dink pass.
Most of the situations should be 2nd and 6, or 3rd and 2, 3, 4. Getting into those types of situations makes converting and keeping a drive alive all that more easier.
The Eagles, especially the last 3 games, have been getting into 2nd and 15, 3rd and 12, 10, 8, etc.
Not many teams, if any, are going to convert that consistently.
Plus, getting in short yardage situations allows the Eagles to possibly pick up a 1st down on some cheap penalties (offsides, or any of the other 5 yard variety penalties)
This offensive needs to be dummed down. Throw out all the trick plays, the change of direction plays, the USELESS play action, and just line up in a simple 3 wide or 2 TE set, mix in some 3, 5, and 7 step drops, and just throw nice underneath routes, pound the ball with runs up the middle, and then try some shots downfield.
I remember a few years back when everyone heralded the Giants for that big comeback and Super Bowl run. The whole Jim Fassel "I guarentee this team will go to the playoffs" year. They dummed down the offense, didn't try to trick anyone, and if I remember correctly were close to tops in the league in scoring, 3rd down conversions, and 1st downs by the end of the year. The Eagles need to implement a similar philosophy.
Andry Reid has to go. I'm not one to run around like a madman screaming for the coach's head on a stick whenever things start to look bad, but I think it's that time. I know it won't happen though, definitely not during the season.
Andy Reid has a nice track record so I'd normally think "Ok, give him the rest of the season to see how it pans out" if this were a different coach in a different situation. And seeing as the Eagles aren't out of it yet, that's reasonable. But I'm fairly confident that I could call a game better than Andy Reid, after watching him all these years. And hell, I'm willing to do it for a lot cheaper than Andy too! I'll do it for free!
We'd all like to see a little more running. With Westbrooks talent, I get sick to my stomach watching them pass repeatedly. I don't care if he can't pound it up the middle (which I'm not so sure about), I don't care if he's not Tiki Barber. Westbrook's a superstar being held back. He's great at what he does, let him do it! Try a sweep to the left, you might like it Andy!
Today on Comcast, I heard a reporter say something along the lines of "I asked LJ Smith why he's a crappy run blocker, and he said that tight ends don't really block.. they just try to get in the way." That's sad, and we know it's not true. And as the reporter pointed out, LJ never would've said that if his coach actually gave a hoot about running, run blocking, etc. I definitely think the O line is good enough to run block, but with Andy Reid at the helm we'll never know. We'll never know unless they're actually commited to running. Oh how I miss the good ol' days, like when Deuce rushed for 200 against Dallas.
Defensively I think we'd be alright if we ran the ball, for all the obvious reasons (TOP, letting your D catch their breath and think for a second ) and that makes me even sicker.
As far as special teams go, why isn't Westbrook returning punts or kick offs? Or atleast someone with some explosion. I understand if they're using Westbrook a lot on O that you need to give the guy a break. But.. atleast let him return some in crucial parts of the game (remember that return against the Giants? :'().
I may come across as a total Westbrook fanboy, but I'm not. I'm just beginning to hate Andy Reid. I loved Andy when were getting to the playoffs, and advancing. And I even blindly continued to love Andry last season. But looking back, I get that "What if someone else was coaching this team?" feeling. Would we have made it passed the championship games all them years where we were getting knocked out? Would we have won the super bowl? We had some nice teams at the time... oooooh what could've been. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Andy was a big reason we made it that far. I want to believe that, but I can't anymore.
I'm tired of thinking "What the farg is Andy doing? Well, he is the coach, he must know more than me. He must see something in the other team, or our team, that is holding us back from running." ???
Since he isn't going to be getting fired soon, someone else needs to be in charge of playcalling, I don't care if it's McNabb, Jim Johnson, or some drunken fan.
What I'm really trying to get at here is.... RUN THE fargING BALL! farg, farg, farg.
Sorry for the long post that touches on absolutely nothing that you've all discussed already. I've been a long time lurking bastich of these forums, I just needed to vent. Thanks, and farg.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 08, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
I long for the days of the dink pass, those short but cheap 5 yard dinks over the middle that other teams use to exploit us would do wonders for this offense. That's not to say they should live and die by it but its a better option at 2nd and 8 than a 30 yard pass to Baskett is.
Oh, you're talkin' about a "west coast" offense. That might claim to exist in Philly, but Andy's version is some kinda morphed WCO, and barely resembles the real thing.
I heard a reporter say something along the lines of "I asked LJ Smith why he's a crappy run blocker, and he said that tight ends don't really block.. they just try to get in the way." That's sad, and we know it's not true. And as the reporter pointed out, LJ never would've said that if his coach actually gave a hoot about running
all you needed to look at to see that reid was not is not and will not put a running game in place was the schobel signing...they already have possibly the worst blocking TE in the nfl on the roster and they go out and sign the second worst?....i mean what does that say....christ the guy cant even have his back up TE be a blocker??
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 07:07:04 PM
I didn't say I agreed with putting in Garcia or anything, but the situation is fairly amusing.
Some guys probably lost their seat licenses over that crap.
As well they should. It's bad enough to think it, but to put it on a sign and hold it up amongst 10's of thousands is pure idiocy.
Let's get one thing straight, Andy Ried is not going to get fired, so why can't everyone just stop bitching about it? It's pointless. It's almost as bad as saying the season is over half way through the schedule.
Look at the Giants. Strahan is out for the year. Toomer is out for the year. Plaxico Burries has been bothered by back spasms almost all year and is questionable. Total, they have 10 players listed as injured. This is not a healthy team. They let Houston stay in the game last Sunday into the third quarter. A first place team in the
much improved NFC East(bullshtein by the way), should be able to put a team like the Texans away, but they couldn't.
Dallas got beat by the then 2-6 taterskins. Are the Skins that good?? Hell no, the Cowboys are that bad and inconsistant. All the hype about TO and then the punkbitch drops a td pass right in his hands. I do think Dallas plays better the rest of the season, but with a cancer like TO, I don't see them going to the playoffs.
Look at the Giants schedule:
Bears
Jags
Titans
Cowboys
Panthers
Eagles
Saints
Skins
They could very well lose 4 of these games. Bears, Jags, Panthers, and Saints.
I don't think this season is as much a mess as everyone else does. I can't believe some of the stuff I read here. Rayburn is a pile of crap, and Ritchie is the next OC for the Eagles? Thats laughable.
The Eagles are far from out of this.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 08, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
I long for the days of the dink pass, those short but cheap 5 yard dinks over the middle that other teams use to exploit us would do wonders for this offense. That's not to say they should live and die by it but its a better option at 2nd and 8 than a 30 yard pass to Baskett is.
That stuff left with Brad Childress. The Morningwood era is big-play time.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 09, 2006, 07:15:48 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 08, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
I long for the days of the dink pass, those short but cheap 5 yard dinks over the middle that other teams use to exploit us would do wonders for this offense. That's not to say they should live and die by it but its a better option at 2nd and 8 than a 30 yard pass to Baskett is.
That stuff left with Brad Childress. The Morningwood era is big-play time.
Andy's still calling the plays though, right?
Methinks shorebird is in denial.
Even if the division falters and the Eagles sneak in, they have nearly zero chance of winning the Super Bowl. That's all that matters and why it's time to figure some things out.
The dink pass has its virtues.
The problem with Reid is that he is all about the big play without having defenses protect the underneath garbage. Is it really that hard to line up 3 WR's, have them do little 5 yard routes and sit in a zone? a few 5-7 yard completions will open up the big plays down field. It will force a safety to cheap up, and then they can take shots downfield.
The problem is Reid isn't setting anything up for his players to be successful.
It's almost like he thinks he's playing John Madden football. Drop back in a shotgun, pick the "All Streaks" route, and then just chuck it downfield and hope someone catches it without working underneath routes and making people at least respect the run. 3-4 yards a carry, and an occasional 5-8 yard run will be enough for people to respect the run if the team could do it consistently.
This week is a real test. Granted, it's the taterskins, but they are coming off of an emotional win and the Eagles had 2 weeks to prepare. If the Eagles come out with the same garbage as the previous 3 weeks it's going to be a long season.
It's almost like he thinks he's playing John Madden football. Drop back in a shotgun, pick the "All Streaks" route, and then just chuck it downfield and hope someone catches it without working underneath routes and making people at least respect the run. 3-4 yards a carry, and an occasional 5-8 yard run will be enough for people to respect the run if the team could do it consistently.
this is why stallworth is so important....he is best at running those deep crossing routes and drawing both safties and linebackers to him...hes the only wr on the team with the speed and talent to run this kind of route and make a defense account for him thus opening it up for others whether it be under the linebackers or past the safeties
Don't hate on Hank Baskett. He runs a solid 4.7.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 09, 2006, 12:09:50 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 09, 2006, 07:15:48 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 08, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
I long for the days of the dink pass, those short but cheap 5 yard dinks over the middle that other teams use to exploit us would do wonders for this offense. That's not to say they should live and die by it but its a better option at 2nd and 8 than a 30 yard pass to Baskett is.
That stuff left with Brad Childress. The Morningwood era is big-play time.
Andy's still calling the plays though, right?
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that the playchart that Andy relies on looks different now...because it doesn't have Childress' input.
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 09, 2006, 12:24:24 PM
Don't hate on Hank Baskett. He runs a solid 4.7.
On one foot.
He doesn't need feet. He can run that using only his penis.
so
three legs>two feet?
wrong. greg lewis will burn anyone. and he runs like a duck.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 09, 2006, 01:02:18 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 09, 2006, 12:09:50 PM
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 09, 2006, 07:15:48 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 08, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
I long for the days of the dink pass, those short but cheap 5 yard dinks over the middle that other teams use to exploit us would do wonders for this offense. That's not to say they should live and die by it but its a better option at 2nd and 8 than a 30 yard pass to Baskett is.
That stuff left with Brad Childress. The Morningwood era is big-play time.
Andy's still calling the plays though, right?
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that the playchart that Andy relies on looks different now...because it doesn't have Childress' input.
Pretty much. Minnesota has only scored 7 offensive TDs this year, I believe. I've watched a few of their games and read some of their boards and the fans are hating Childress' style of offense.
We all know the Eagles (actually a lot of teams) have a problem with running plays short of the sticks when needing a 1st down. But the Vikings have a chronic problem with it and Brad is getting heat.
I was listening to the radio the other day, and you see a few people talking about it on the Eagles sites, about how the offense is too big play oriented. But I remember a few years ago when people were screaming for them to go down field and it never happened unless it was a bomb to Pinky.
The problem with this team is, and has been a lack of diversity in the offense. When it was Pederson/young McNabb under center, this was a dink and dunk offense with recievers who couldn't go deep if you cemented their feet and dropped them in the ocean. 2003 was probably Reid's most consistant year of playcalling. We had the '3 headed monster' in the backfield with Duce, Westy and Buck and they were all getting carries and being effective. Reid was stretching the field with Pinkston and Thrash, Lewis and that 1st round reciever were doing a decent job catching the underneath stuff.
Other than that, it's been one extreme or the other with Reid. Dink and dunk or bomb's away. Even during TO's first year, the offense was having consistency problems and had a hard time moving the ball without a big play.
There's a happy medium in there somewhere and Reid isn't finding it. Actually, I don't even think he's looking for it.