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Title: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: MURP on November 07, 2006, 06:02:15 PM
per PFT

QuoteSHURMUR TO SPARTANS?

A league source tells us that Eagles quarterbacks coach Pat Shurmur has emerged as the primary candidate for the head coaching job at Michigan State University, and that he is expected to get the job.  Another source tells us that there is mutual interest, but that it is "nowhere near a done deal."

Shurmur has been with the Eagles for eight years, and he has been the quarterbacks coach for five seasons.  He was an All-Big Ten center and team captain at Michigan State, and he is the nephew of the late Fritz Shurmur, defensive coordinator of the 1996 Packers.

Michigan State recently announced that head coach John L. Smith won't return in 2007.  Former 49ers and Lions coach Steve Mariucci has indicated that he is not interested in the job, per Adam Schefter of NFLN.  We reported last week that the Spartans wanted to lure former Michigan State head coach Nick Saban back to East Lansing from Miami, but we've learned in various discussions with league and industry sources that Saban genuinely has no interest in the job.

Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: phattymatty on November 07, 2006, 06:05:42 PM
i can't imagine why saban wouldn't want to leave miami for lovely lansing.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Eagaholic on November 07, 2006, 06:30:05 PM
This would be a great move for the Eagles.

Maybe a new QB coach could teach McNabb some finer points like when ahead by 2 or 3 scores going into the 4th quater, don't keep snapping the ball with 8 seconds left on the clock. Or how to look off a DB, or use a pump fake and go long against a singled up  DB who has just intercepted you twice for a TD by aggressively jumping routes (of course this might blow McNabb's chance to present Barber at his HOF induction). Or innovations like strapping a barfbag rather than a towel through the belt when in Florida. It could even have an Eagles logo. NFL properties would take note.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: mussa on November 07, 2006, 06:34:29 PM
Boooooooooooooooo Eagaholic
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: ice grillin you on November 07, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Maybe a new QB coach could teach McNabb some finer points like when ahead by 2 or 3 scores going into the 4th quater, don't keep snapping the ball with 8 seconds left on the clock.

nothing will change with mcnabb until reid goes and mcnabb isnt coddled and isnt allowed to live in the cozy little utopian comfort zone that hes resided in for the last eight years
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Diomedes on November 07, 2006, 08:45:31 PM
Who?

Oh.

Well, good for him. 
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on November 07, 2006, 09:17:42 PM
Quote from: Eagaholic on November 07, 2006, 06:30:05 PMMaybe a new QB coach could teach McNabb some finer points...

You're assuming that McNabb is capable of learning some finer points.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Diomedes on November 07, 2006, 09:49:26 PM
He's capable.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Munson on November 07, 2006, 10:05:38 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 07, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Maybe a new QB coach could teach McNabb some finer points like when ahead by 2 or 3 scores going into the 4th quater, don't keep snapping the ball with 8 seconds left on the clock.

nothing will change with mcnabb until reid goes and mcnabb isnt coddled and isnt allowed to live in the cozy little utopian comfort zone that hes resided in for the last eight years

Soooo....all the other 31 coaches around the NFL throw thier QB under the bus all the time and talk badly about them when they have bad games?
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 06:23:53 AM
theres an area between throwing someone under the bus and babying him....thats where mcnabb needs to be...but its not going to happen as long as reid is there

i suppose there is also the possibility that reid treats mcnabb with kid gloves because mcnabb is not able to handle anything more forceful

however we will never know the answer to these questions until reid is ousted which is why he needs to be fired while mcnabb still has good years left in him
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 08, 2006, 06:31:52 AM
And once again, no one knows how Andy handles Donovan in a closed door setting. You, and others,  assume that since Reid is so "blah" at the PC's that means he is like that when coaching them. Fact is - we don't know what goes on. We do know that Andy did say publicly that he wanted the ball in the end zone in TB when asked what happened.


Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 08:04:28 AM
we have heard numerous players over he years intimate and just about come out and say that mcnabb is reids child and treats him differently than all other players....everyone knows this...even people in utah

its just a question of does he do this because mcnabb is his boy his pick and in general hes just not that kind of coach

or

does he do it because he knows it would destroy mcnabbs fragile psyche
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Philly_Crew on November 08, 2006, 11:02:26 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 08:04:28 AM
we have heard numerous players over he years intimate and just about come out and say that mcnabb is reids child and treats him differently than all other players....everyone knows this...even people in utah

its just a question of does he do this because mcnabb is his boy his pick and in general hes just not that kind of coach

or

does he do it because he knows it would destroy mcnabbs fragile psyche

Most coaches treat their best player differently than others.  Especially the QB.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Feva on November 08, 2006, 11:04:33 AM
Ah... we're back to the mentally fragile thing again.  Wonderful.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 11:06:11 AM
Most coaches treat their best player differently than others.  Especially the QB.

actually the good coaches hold their qb to a higher standard as they should
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Wingspan on November 08, 2006, 11:28:56 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 08:04:28 AM
we have heard numerous players over he years intimate and just about come out and say that mcnabb is reids child and treats him differently than all other players....everyone knows this...even people in utah

link?
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 12:07:40 PM
ike reese on wip yesterday said mcnabb is not a born leader and is coddled by andy...but others have said as much over the years...trotter on his radio show and in the papers.......runyan has intimated it on angelos show many times...of course TO....but even with out all that its obviosu to anyone who follows the team that mcnabb is above reproach when it comes to accountability and mcnabb constantly suckles at andys teet

sorry if i cant find it on the internets tho
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Wingspan on November 08, 2006, 12:16:19 PM
no link?
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 12:21:03 PM
nope...one day maybe youll realize there is a world outside the internets


anyway youre missing the point...i am pro mcnabb...i think he can win a superbowl...just not with a coach that refuses to run the ball or get good wr's yet puts the entire team on the back of a guy who isnt good enough to carry it


fire andy reid
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Wingspan on November 08, 2006, 01:19:54 PM
link?
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 08, 2006, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 08, 2006, 01:19:54 PM
link?

http://www.fireandyreid.com/
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Tomahawk on November 08, 2006, 01:46:27 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 08, 2006, 01:19:54 PM
link?

http://www.fireandyreid.com/

No solicitation
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: General_Failure on November 08, 2006, 02:01:25 PM
A banning!
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 08, 2006, 02:26:01 PM
Quote from: Tomahawk on November 08, 2006, 01:46:27 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 08, 2006, 01:19:54 PM
link?

http://www.fireandyreid.com/

No solicitation

I think it speaks volumes that no one's given the guy a big enough offer to actually buy the domain.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: RezRob on November 08, 2006, 02:33:45 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on November 08, 2006, 01:36:24 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 08, 2006, 01:19:54 PM
link?

                                                          http://www.fireandyreid.com/

"im still searching for elderly gays"  --IGY      ^^ Found one ^^
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 03:08:23 PM
its used to be a legit site....thats where i got my fire andy reid shirt a few years back....i guess when they made the superbowl the guy took the site down....sellout
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: MURP on November 09, 2006, 09:19:44 AM
per PFT

QuoteSHURMUR THE BEST MAN FOR MSU?

Amid rumors that former 49ers and Lions coach Steve Mariucci is quietly in the mix for the Michigan State job, a league source with no dog in the race (or horse in the hunt) has expressed to us in no uncertain terms that, in his view, Eagles quarterbacks coach Pat Shurmur is the better man for the job.

"This guy deserves the job," the source said.  "It is his dream job."

Shurmur was an All-Big 10 center at Michigan State, and a team captain.  His extensive NFL experience should be very helpful, since we've heard that the Spartans are looking for a guy who will be in a position to demonstrate an ability to get players ready for -- and placed in -- the NFL.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: MURP on November 09, 2006, 09:24:23 AM
Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid both endorse Shurmur (http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/15965164.htm)
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: The BIGSTUD on November 10, 2006, 05:02:18 PM
He deserves the job. Good luck to him if he goes.

A source close to Mooch said he isn't taking the job and is officially out per ESPNews.

So looks like it'll be Pat.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 11, 2006, 05:36:10 AM
Quote from: MURP on November 09, 2006, 09:24:23 AM
Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid both endorse Shurmur (http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/15965164.htm)

Bottom of the article.....

QuoteExtra points

taterskins coach Joe Gibbs admitted it will not be easy to have his team at a high emotional level again Sunday after its last-second victory over Dallas. "It's tough to come back from something like that in a week," he said. "We have a tough assignment."... The Eagles have never beaten a team with Mark Brunell as the starting quarterback.

:paranoid
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: shorebird on November 11, 2006, 06:06:34 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 08, 2006, 08:04:28 AM
we have heard numerous players over he years intimate and just about come out and say that mcnabb is reids child and treats him differently than all other players....everyone knows this...even people in utah
its just a question of does he do this because mcnabb is his boy his pick and in general hes just not that kind of coach
ike reese on wip yesterday said mcnabb is not a born leader and is coddled by andy...but others have said as much over the years...trotter on his radio show and in the papers.......runyan has intimated it on angelos show many times...of course TO....but even with out all that its obviosu to anyone who follows the team that mcnabb is above reproach when it comes to accountability and mcnabb constantly suckles at andys teet
You heard this from Reese?? If anything like that was said ESPN and all the other vultures would be on it like stink of shtein. It would be nation wide.

I know TO blasted McNabb on a personal level, but I never heard anything about him getting special treatment or being "coddled" by Ried.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: SunMo on November 27, 2006, 12:32:36 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2677122&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 27, 2006, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 27, 2006, 12:32:36 PM
http://www.oldnavy.com/browse/product.do?cid=6920&pid=419638&scid=419638002&actFltr=true

What?
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on November 27, 2006, 12:37:41 PM
You want to buy Shurmur a shirt?
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on November 27, 2006, 12:38:27 PM
Sunmo, doing some shopping there buddy  :-D
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: SunMo on November 27, 2006, 12:38:56 PM
i stink
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Diomedes on November 27, 2006, 12:39:55 PM
ugly shirt in that link.

whatever reference you are making, I don't get it.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: SunMo on November 27, 2006, 12:41:25 PM
no reference, i posted the wrong link, i have changed it though.

simply a mistake, which is probably more confusing than any abstract reference i could've been making.
Title: Re: Shurmur to Michigan St. ?
Post by: Butchers Bill on November 27, 2006, 12:41:41 PM
Quote from: SunMo on November 27, 2006, 12:38:56 PM
i stink

You're taste in shirts ain't so hot either.   ;)