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Title: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: The BIGSTUD on October 31, 2006, 09:46:53 PM
You can do individual players if you want too.

QBs: A-  Despite the last 2 games, McNabb still having a great season.
RBs: C-  They never run the ball but Westbrook has been solid when given the chance.
FBs: undetermined
WRs: C  Reggie having good year but not much elsewhere. Too many drops.
TEs: C  Whatever.
O-line: B
D-line: C+ The sack numbers keep my from making this at least a C-
LBs:  C-
CBs: B+ Corners have played very well once healthy.
Safeties: C+ Dawk playing great, Lewis sucking it up. Considine too early to tell.
Kicker: undetermined - he's hardly had to kick FGs.
Punter: C-  Nothing spectacular and a bit disappointing
Special teams(return game): D+  Nothing going on here
Special teams(coverage): C has let up some bad returns, but not consistently bad.

Head coach: D
Defensive coordinator: D+ Hard to tell whether it is him or the players, but the d blows.
Special teams coach: C Eh...
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Diomedes on October 31, 2006, 09:54:06 PM
You can do a bullet in the ass if you want too.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: MDS on October 31, 2006, 09:55:11 PM
I refuse to seriously respond to a thread you started, so I'll simply give this entire a team a big fat juicy F for farging up the past 3 weeks of my life.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Rome on October 31, 2006, 09:58:46 PM
I'll grade it an "O" as in Over.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 31, 2006, 10:03:29 PM
As a licensed middle-school teacher, I can professionally say that the Eagles receive an

F
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Wingspan on October 31, 2006, 10:11:26 PM
player by player

2   Akers, David   K   C
73   Andrews, Shawn   G/T   B+
81   Avant, Jason   WR   C
56   Barber, Shawn   LB   B
88   Bartrum, Mike   TE/LS   B
84   Baskett, Hank   WR   C+
86   Brown, Reggie   WR   B-
24   Brown, Sheldon   CB   D+
28   Buckhalter, Correll   RB   C
78   Bunkley, Brodrick   DT   D
59   Cole, Nick   OL   Inc
58   Cole, Trent   DE   B
37   Considine, Sean   S   C
20   Dawkins, Brian   FS   B-
14   Feeley, A.J.   QB   Inc
96   Gaither, Omar   LB   D
7   Garcia, Jeff   QB   Inc
22   Hanson, Joselio   C+
79   Herremans, Todd   B   
29   Hood, Roderick   CB   Inc
90   Howard, Darren   DE   B-
67   Jackson, Jamaal   C/G   B
21   James, William   CB   Inc
62   Jean-Gilles, Max   G   Inc
8   Johnson, Dirk   P   6-0   D
55   Jones, Dhani   LB   6-1   C-
74   Justice, Winston   OT   Inc
83   Lewis, Greg   WR   C+
32   Lewis, Michael   SS   F-
34   Mahe, Reno   RB   C+
51   McCoy, Matt   LB   B-
68   McCoy, Pat   OT   Inc
95   McDougle, Jerome   DE   F
5   McNabb, Donovan   QB   B+
27   Mikell, Quintin   S   D
23   Moats, Ryan   RB   D
98   Patterson, Mike   DT   D+
77   Ramsey, LaJuan   DT   C+
91   Rayburn, Sam   DT   F
53   Roper, Dedrick   LB   6-2   F
69   Runyan, Jon   OT   C+
89   Schobel, Matt   TE   C
26   Sheppard, Lito   CB   B/Inc
52   Short, Jason   LB   D
82   Smith, L.J.   TE   C
18   Stallworth, Donté   WR   Inc
38   Tapeh, Thomas   FB   C
75   Thomas, Juqua   DE   B
72   Thomas, William   OT   D
54   Trotter, Jeremiah   LB   D-
97   Walker, Darwin   DT   D
36   Westbrook, Brian   RB   B
71   Young, Scott C
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Diomedes on October 31, 2006, 10:30:09 PM
Trent Cole is better than a B.  He's shown skills at both pass rushing and run stopping.  And LJ Smith should be rated better than a C.

Also, you shouldn't have been so harsh on Ronde Barber.   He's doing pretty well so far..oh?  Oh?  He's not on the Eagles? 
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: LBIggle on October 31, 2006, 10:40:31 PM
seeing as it is a team game,  F.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: rjs246 on October 31, 2006, 10:49:31 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 31, 2006, 10:03:29 PM
As a licensed middle-school teacher, I can professionally say that the Eagles receive an

F

Second
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: DH on October 31, 2006, 11:12:39 PM
Weeks 1, 3-5 - B+
Weeks 2, 6-8 - Unacceptable
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Phanatic on October 31, 2006, 11:49:27 PM
F Minus Minus!!

A + for reintroducing me to Binge drinking.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Eagaholic on November 01, 2006, 02:24:15 AM
Looking at the individual grades I also thought Cole was deserving of an A. But then I remembered his jewel excavation penalty which basically handed the Giants the game so I'd give him a B.

McNabb still has shiney numbers but also has more or less lost the last 2 games (although his WR's pitched in with drops and not getting open), and did nothing in the last quater to prevent the loss to the Giants. His best moments this year imo were in the Green Bay game. It was the way he came out in the second half and took the game over. He showed fire and determination and a will to win, especially in his running. I got so much hope when I saw that and said to myself  "finally, he's a QB that can win a SB". Next thing I know, he's doing the Big Spit in a Florida stadium and it's de ja vu all over again.  B-   
One last thought about that Tampa game. I want to see reporters ask some good questions like "Brian, what was it like having to take handoffs from McNabb after he hurled?"
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on November 01, 2006, 02:32:49 AM
Offense - F
Defense - F
Coaching - F
Special Teams - F
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 01, 2006, 08:17:47 AM
Offense - D
Defense - F
Coaching - F
Special Teams - IN
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: rjs246 on November 01, 2006, 08:17:51 AM
Is there anything lower than an F that we can give to special teams and coaching?
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Susquehanna Birder on November 01, 2006, 08:39:24 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 01, 2006, 08:17:51 AM
Is there anything lower than an F that we can give to special teams and coaching?

A hard, dry F.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 01, 2006, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on November 01, 2006, 08:17:51 AM
Is there anything lower than an F that we can give to special teams and coaching?

RJS
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Wingspan on November 01, 2006, 08:47:26 AM
the offense shouldnt get an F on it's own. the offense, in all but one game, have put the eagles in the lead at one point during the game (twice in the 4th quarter) and put the team in prime position to win.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 01, 2006, 08:49:19 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on November 01, 2006, 08:47:26 AM
the offense shouldnt get an F on it's own. the offense, in all but one game, have put the eagles in the lead at one point during the game (twice in the 4th quarter) and put the team in prime position to win.

Right, I agree.  But since the offense is directly more responsible for the last two losses than is the defense, and those two losses brought the team from a respectable 4-2 to a mediocre 4-4, they certainly don't deserve anything greater than a D.  A big, fat, hairy, smelly D.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 08:56:28 AM
the jacksonville game alone should have gotten andy reid sent to military school or something

we all know the factors that existed during the game so i wont go into that but

39 passes
15 rushes


for whatever reason if thats not enough how about these season first half numbers

301 pass plays
161 rush plays


if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable

perhaps if the defense was allowed to rest more often the undersized tackles and weak linebackers would get owened like they did sunday

season time of possesion

267
208

so basically the defense has played a full game more than the offense


andy reid = expelled
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: T_Section224 on November 01, 2006, 09:18:39 AM
D+ at best, more likely F
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 09:34:04 AM
this is the half way point of the season, and the eagles have forced ONE 3 and out in the 4th quarter this year. ONE. that...is farging pathetic.

key words are "4th quarter"

im not absolving the defense of any fault cause they havent been good but dont you think theres a reason they are having trouble late in games...because by then they have spent an inordinate amount of time on the field...add in the fact that they are a small to begin with and you have a recipe for disaster

even when the eagles score they do it quickly because they throw it down the field...its not an offense conducive to winning close physical games and its why it will never win a championship
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 09:49:10 AM
again...the head coach could care less about the defense and does absolutely nothing to help it
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Sgt PSN on November 01, 2006, 11:16:20 AM
That TOP stat for the year is sick IGY.  Good work. 

I've been bitching about this since the GB game........as "great" as the Eagles offense has been, they are completely incapable of eating clock.  The offense is averaging about 2m30s on TOP on drives resulting in touchdowns.  They're also averaging close to the same thing on drives not resulting in touchdowns. 

I tried dressing up like Andy Reid last night for Halloween but it was a lot harder for me to shove my head up my ass than I originally thought it'd be. 
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 01, 2006, 11:18:06 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 09:49:10 AM
again...the head coach could care less about the defense and does absolutely nothing to help it

Are you speaking purely from a personnel standpoint?  Because as bad as Jim Johnson's defense has been playing, it is mildly comforting that Reid basically has no influence in coaching them.  That would be even worse.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 11:33:10 AM
im saying the way he calls games and his offensive philosophy completely ignores the defense

whats funny is that the DC's philosophy is to go with small quick tackles...guys that more easily wear down...yet the offensive philosophy keeps the defense on the field way too much

contradiction....much like passing 100 times a game with an inaccurate qb who never has good wr's
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: General_Failure on November 01, 2006, 11:40:03 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 09:34:04 AM
im not absolving the defense of any fault cause they havent been good but dont you think theres a reason they are having trouble late in games...because by then they have spent an inordinate amount of time on the field...add in the fact that they are a small to begin with and you have a recipe for disaster

They start bad. How many opening drive scores has this defense let up? They suck, and it doesn't matter how long the offense is on the field.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on November 01, 2006, 11:40:54 AM
It's all part of the gold standard's master plan.  Trust the front office.


I nearly actually vomited just trying to type that.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Don Ho on November 01, 2006, 02:39:03 PM
 :( See me after class!
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Feva on November 01, 2006, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on November 01, 2006, 08:56:28 AM
the jacksonville game alone should have gotten andy reid sent to military school or something

we all know the factors that existed during the game so i wont go into that but

39 passes
15 rushes


for whatever reason if thats not enough how about these season first half numbers

301 pass plays
161 rush plays


if it wasnt so pathetic it would be laughable

What makes this even more sickening is that the Eagles average something like 4.8 ypc... without McNabb's runs.  With McNabb, it's 5.1.
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: BB on November 02, 2006, 08:19:40 PM
There's only one grade here, and it's a big fat Andy Reid sized F
Title: Re: Eagles midseason grades.
Post by: Zanshin on November 03, 2006, 02:17:46 PM
A++!

I just wanted to screw with the curve.