Just started lifting weights again after a 9 year layoff. Always been a big cardio/eliptical machine fan but had to stay away from weights because of a back issue. The back issue is still there but I'm dealing with it, although on days like today the pain is too much so I have to take off.
Anyways, I just started this stuff called Finigenx, so far this stuff is amazing. Its banned by the FDA, though. I'm also using Creatine CEE AKG from Met-Rx which I got on bodybuildingoutlet.com for $15. Same bottle was in GNC for $50 (no joke) I cut my cardio from 30-40 minutes a day to 5-10 minutes and upped my protein from 200 grams a day to 250-300 grams a day. I figure its the winter so even if I do put on a little extra weight its no big deal. I'm also taking Milk Thistle to keep the old liver clean, Flaxseed Oil for my joints, and a mulit-vitamin.
If anyone is looking for a cheap Whey protein that actually tastes pretty good and is of good quality I recommend (Optimum) ON Whey. If you search the net you can get 5 lbs. for about $25-$30, I've made great gains on this stuff.
My breakdown:
Monday - Chest/Forearms
Tuesday - Back/Abs
Wednsday- Bi's/Tri's
Thursday - Shoulders
Friday- Legs
I know a lot of people like to cruch all their workouts in 3 or 4 days but I've always had the best gains on a 5 day schedule.
My diet usually goes like this:
7AM Oatmeal/ Whey protein shake
9AM Protein Bar (have been using Met-Rx Protein Plus)
11AM Chicken/Steak/Beef/Fish/Turkey with Broccoli or Corn on the side
1PM Same as 11 PM
3PM Protein bar
5PM Same as 11 and 1
7PM Protein bar or shake (whatever I'm in the mood for)
My post-workout recovery meal is usually a Protein Bar and a Protein shake and some oatmeal. I usually take in 60-70 grams immediately after a workout.
Thread makes me want a donut and a nap.
SD, I have back problems too. Completely exasserbated by lifting. I went through physical therapy and was taught a bunch of shtein you can do in the gym (weights) that can actually help. It's all low impact shtein, but it's better than doing nothing or lifting regularly and f'ing your shtein up.
Anyway, let me know if you're interested in hearing about them.
Also, weight gain powders are the worst shtein ever created. Kidney. Failure.
Thanks for the offer, I went through physical therapy for 2 years when I was in the Navy. It didn't help much. I'm seeing a Chiroropractor (Uncle is one so its free) and thats been helping a little. I have acute lower and upper back pain which basically means sometimes its really bad (can't walk) and sometimes its non-existant. I developed scoliosis while I was in the Navy. I've just learned how to deal with the pain and am extremely cautious when I lift.
Weight gain powders are junk. I only use powders/bars for added protein.
If you're looking for more information, I think that this is an excellent and comprehensive book on the subject:
Encyclopedia of Muscle & Strength (http://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Muscle-Strength-Jim-Stoppani/dp/0736057714/sr=8-1/qid=1161355392/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6507946-9172043?ie=UTF8)
And I think this is an interesting site; there's some good informtion in the forums: www.johnstonefitness.com
That site has some good info on it, I usually check out bodybuilding.com. when I have a question, they have a large online community there.
Check this guy out. (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=523356) That's pretty amazing.
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AArrgh! my eyes!
pass the mind bleach, please
He looks like he has a penis turtled into his righ forebow.
Anyways, my workout schedule is this:
Day 1 Legs/Shoulders
Day 2 Back/Triceps
Day 3 off
Day 4 Chest/Biceps
Day 5 Off
Repeat Cycle
I've noticed that so far, this has given me enough recovery time for my muscles, especially after doing squats, those kill. I'm still in the Hoyda weight stage...but if I stay consistent, I'll be doing decent weight in the next 6 to 12 months.
Diet:
I'm not strict, but I do try to eat 6 times a day. I'll eat stuff like:
Cereal w/non-fat milk
Yogurt
Oatmeal
Sandwich
Trail-Mix
That is the bulk of what I eat...
But, I still haven't found a way not to drink beer. I'm also not looking for one either.
I suck at cardio...but I have to throw it in or I'll be one of those dudes at the gym with a decent overall body w/ a gut. That is definitely not gangsta.
your not a man unless you have a gut. sorry.
welcome to the WU everyone
Anyways, my workout schedule is this:
Day 1 Sometimes i carry 2 full loads of laundry up the stairs
Day 2 Poker Night
Day 3 Use two remote controls at once
Day 4 Exercise snoring muscles
Day 5 lifting 2x4s and carrying them while i finish projects around the house
Most days i walk the dog, and she pulls the leash alot. it's really difficult sometimes when i am carrying an umbrella, the poo bag, and carrying a lit cigarette. damn. tired just thinking about it.
Diet:
I'm not strict, but I do try to eat 6 times a day. I'll eat stuff like:
bagel, cinnamon roll, coffee
more coffee
ham or turkey sandwhich
dinner
scotch, neat
wife
That is the bulk of what I eat...
Quote from: rjs246 on October 20, 2006, 10:35:36 AM
I went through physical therapy and was taught a bunch of shtein you can do in the gym (weights) that can actually help. It's all low impact shtein, but it's better than doing nothing or lifting regularly and f'ing your shtein up.
Anyway, let me know if you're interested in hearing about them.
Please share.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 20, 2006, 10:54:52 AM
AArrgh! my eyes!
pass the mind bleach, please
Save some for me. Damn.
SD, I'm not a big fan of all the protein bars and such. Eat right (I don't), do a good workout schedule (I don't), and maybe add some spot nutrients (I do), and that should be good for the average person. Of course, if you're looking to put on weight faster, then the bars and the whey will help.
Be careful with the back. Take your time getting strength in the supporting musculature. You don't want to overdo it, then you'll be back to square one.
I have arthritis issues, so my routine of late is more core-based, and I'm doing a lot more flexibility work. Low impact things that still beat the hell out of me.
ive read before that people with back problems should lift weights, but specific exercises should be done. in time it can help your back. of course it all depends on the severity of your back proglems. so for what its worth....
i eat prob 2-4 times a day.
egg whites, wheat toast, sometimes breakfast meat, usually turkey bacon for breakfast plus coffee
tuna melt or ham=turkey sandwhich for lunch, chips or some sort of snack. or just soup
chicken, fish, or pork for dinner w/vegtable brocoli, asparagus, brussel sprouts for dinner. sometimes rice.
I recently gained back around 15 pounds that i lost from being on the atkins and cardio at gym. i gave up on diet and gym after vacation in september and havn't done shtein since. i just can never get into a routine at the gym. i do not enjoy it at all. I must have a super low metabolism because I know guys that eat way more and worse than me, yet they are skinny. I'm on the opposite end, I can afford to lose about 30-40 lbs.
atkins seemed to work great for me because I lost that weight quick, yet to me that diet is not healthy, mainly because of all the meat intake ala sodium/cholestoral. I guess its a quick way to lose it and when its off, change to a healthier diet and regular exercise.
Either way working out sucks. I'd much rather play basketball or something enjoyable than a gym.
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Best workout on the face of the earth. The surfing part you sick perverts!
I was lucky enough to surf the last three days. Fricken off the charts! Late off season south shore swell. 6-10 foot faces. Few pluses. I feel like I just spent all day in the gym. By the end of this afternoons session I was spent. Word is some more surf tomorrow but I am beat.
Quote from: Butchers Bill on October 20, 2006, 02:30:08 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 20, 2006, 10:35:36 AM
I went through physical therapy and was taught a bunch of shtein you can do in the gym (weights) that can actually help. It's all low impact shtein, but it's better than doing nothing or lifting regularly and f'ing your shtein up.
Anyway, let me know if you're interested in hearing about them.
Please share.
Seated row pull: Nothing more than 50 pounds. Four sets of 15-20 reps.
Seated vertical pull: Nothing more than 50 pounds. Four sets of 15-20 reps.
Reverse situps: Holding light weight (10-20 pounds). Four sets of 25)
Stomach crunches: More weight is preferable here. However many sets you can do.
(A strong core up front helps 'straighten out' scoliosis spine, so its good to work your stomach. Lay off of overdoing the chest though because we tend to focus on our pecs and it can unbalance the way your muscles pull on the spine.)
Suspended stomache crunches: However many you can do.
Etc. etc.
Basically you want to do a lot of work with all of your back muscles but you want it to be lightweight so everything pulls evenly on your spine. In order to support this you want to have every thing up front strong.
Having said all of that I stopped going to the gym regularly about a year and a half ago and my back farging kills me now. Good decision on my part.
Don Ho with the eye bleach! Thanks man.
p.s. someone tell that chick to watch out for the sharks....I half expect to see one jump up out of the water and eat her when I look at the photo.
Good info, rjs. I pretty much do most of that now. Not exactly, but close. My current routine also does a lot on the obliques with side crunches and also work on a torso rotation machine.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on October 21, 2006, 02:00:13 PM
Good info, rjs. I pretty much do most of that now. Not exactly, but close. My current routine also does a lot on the obliques with side crunches and also work on a torso rotation machine.
Both of which I should have included. They contribute a lot to core strength.
Today was my first day back at the gym in almost two weeks, anyway I was on my second set of incline bench when I got this shooting pain right behind my left temple. I stood up and got lightheaded then thought I was gonna puke. I gave it about 10 minutes but it wouldn't go away. The left side of my head and face is throbbing and the pain is so bad I can feel it in the back of my teeth. I came home and took some Advil and the pain is slowly fading, but does anyone know what I might have done?
Stroke.
Quote from: Father Demon on November 06, 2006, 03:31:56 PM
Stroke.
I was thinking more along the lines of a pinched nerve.
i ate a sleeve of fig newtons for lunch.
I went to the chinese buffet for lunch today and got the usual chicken/shrimp stir-fry that they do on the hibachi grill.
Anyway, this enormous woman came by and sat down with like three full plates of food in front of her. I swear to God, she ordered a Diet Pepsi to wash 'em down with.
Amazing. :-X
Sounds like a cranial hemmorage.
Sounds like that could have been the beginning of an original thought. Have to be careful there.
Went back today, lowered my incline press weight from 175 to 150 hoping that would help, it didn't...same thing happened. So now I'm abandoning my chest workout and am gonna try to do my back instead at 3. This should be fun.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 07, 2006, 12:55:42 PM
Went back today, lowered my incline press weight from 175 to 150 hoping that would help, it didn't...same thing happened. So now I'm abandoning my chest workout and am gonna try to do my back instead at 3. This should be fun.
how about bench pressing a doctor?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 06, 2006, 03:05:11 PM
does anyone know what I might have done?
Just a guess, but it may have been....
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 06, 2006, 03:05:11 PM
I was on my second set of incline bench
That's more excersize than the Navy's required of you in the last 8 years combined. You gotta pace yourself, homie.
Quote from: Wingspan on November 07, 2006, 01:05:08 PM
how about bench pressing a doctor?
:-D
Are you suggesting that what he's doing isn't healthy? It's physical fitness for cryin' out out!
I'm just a dumb bullet sponge Marine, but I think he's supposed to bench press a doctor so he can have his questions answered immediately.
And SD, if you do decide to bench press a doc, make sure it's an obgyn. They're specialists for your condition.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on November 07, 2006, 01:09:01 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 06, 2006, 03:05:11 PM
does anyone know what I might have done?
Just a guess, but it may have been....
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 06, 2006, 03:05:11 PM
I was on my second set of incline bench
That's more excersize than the Navy's required of you in the last 8 years combined. You gotta pace yourself, homie.
No joke, my buddies a coreman and told me they're gonna start letting people do the PRT on an eliptical machine rather than doing the run.
yea man. go to the doctor. thats not normal. if you have health insurance even better.
Quote from: mussa on November 07, 2006, 02:09:03 PM
yea man. go to the doctor. thats not normal. if you have health insurance even better.
Just took my temperature and it read 101.5, so I'm gonna rest for a few more days then see how I feel then try to give it a go.
So who's in for tailgaiting SD Eagle's funeral?
In. With a PBR 30 pack.
So SD....... 101.5 degree fever, shooting pain in skull, lightheaded, nausea, entire left side of head in extreme pain....... are you waiting for blood to come out of your ears before you get a doc to check you?
It's just a flesh wound.
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Quote from: MURP on November 07, 2006, 10:29:31 PM
So SD....... 101.5 degree fever, shooting pain in skull, lightheaded, nausea, entire left side of head in extreme pain....... are you waiting for blood to come out of your ears before you get a doc to check you?
I have a cold and a bad sinus infection, the sinus infection was what was causing the pain in my head.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 08, 2006, 01:26:55 AMI have a cold and a bad sinus infection, the sinus infection was what was causing the pain in my head.
Is this a self diagnosis, or did you actually seek medical advice from a professional (doctor)?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on November 08, 2006, 10:28:08 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 08, 2006, 01:26:55 AMI have a cold and a bad sinus infection, the sinus infection was what was causing the pain in my head.
Is this a self diagnosis, or did you actually seek medical advice from a professional (doctor)?
Received the advice from my Doctor. It's definitely a sinus infection.
Does that mean that the tailgate is off?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on November 08, 2006, 07:35:19 PM
Does that mean that the tailgate is off?
Sadly, yes. You can take me off your Ghoulpool for now.
I'll bring you medicine this Sunday. Johnny Black. You'll be all better in no time.
I just opened this thread for the first time since I last posted. Phatty's comment about eating a sleeve of fig newtons made me laugh. Carry on.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 08, 2006, 10:47:49 PM
I just opened this thread for the first time since I last posted. Phatty's comment about eating a sleeve of fig newtons made me laugh. Carry on.
You get hard-ons for Phattymatty...similar to how MDS's butthole puckers up anytime you post something in his direction. Let's stop having man crushes. All of us.
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2006, 10:44:55 PM
I'll bring you medicine this Sunday. Johnny Black. You'll be all better in no time.
Run that by our tailgate, would ya? :=)
I wouldn't be anywhere else :yay
Quote from: hbionic on November 08, 2006, 11:32:40 PM
You get hard-ons for Phattymatty...similar to how MDS's butthole puckers up anytime you post something in his direction. Let's stop having man crushes. All of us.
Well, he is my hetero life partner. And don't get it twisted, I only get a semi.
Quote from: mussa on November 08, 2006, 10:44:55 PM
I'll bring you medicine this Sunday. Johnny Black. You'll be all better in no time.
Sweet, since I haven't lifted in almost a month I'm down from 192 to almost 186. Depression is starting to kick in which I'm countering with a chicken parm sandwich and cheese fries.
Quote from: rjs246 on November 09, 2006, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: hbionic on November 08, 2006, 11:32:40 PM
You get hard-ons for Phattymatty...similar to how MDS's butthole puckers up anytime you post something in his direction. Let's stop having man crushes. All of us.
Well, he is my hetero life partner. And don't get it twisted, I only get a semi.
I met my hetero life partner on a message board too, he goes by the name of shellback.
Where's that dude been? Haven't seen him around here in ages.
He's still onboard the USS floating Hell otherwise known as the Reagan CVN 76. He might be getting orders to Camp David. He was back in Philly a few weeks ago.
Camp David, eh? I couldn't imagine any better duty in the military than being posted at Dubbya's 'vacation' estate. ::)
He applied for it before but his COC farged him over during the interview process, the Reagan is known for farging people over which is why their retention rate is awful compared to the rest of the fleet.
So are you setting up a booth at the tailgate to try to influence youngsters to join the Core?
Hell no. I don't work on weekends. Hell, I barely work during the week.
Since there was so much concern at the tailgate yesterday here's an update:
Did Chest and forearms today with no problems:
Incline Bench
135 x 10
145 x 8
155 x 8
155 x 8
Flat Hammer strength chest
(Each arm)
50 x10
55 x 8
60 x 8
Flat flies
35 x 10
40 x 8
45 x 8
Outer grip pec dec
90 x 10
100 x 8
110 x 8
Forearm curls
35 x 10
40 x 10
45 x 8
Reverse grip preacher curls
40 x10
45 x 8
50 x 8
After the game I had a cheesesteak, fries, and a few slices of pepporoni pizza which gave me a little extra umph to workout today. No ill effects from my sinus or back problems.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on November 13, 2006, 02:43:52 PM
Since there was so much concern at the tailgate yesterday
there is a lot of money involved with your ghoul pool death.
I don't remember any conversations about working out. Then again, I try to avoid every form of excersize possible. And that includes discussions about it.
You were there but I think you were too busy heckling Skins fans, hollering at fat chicks, or admiring your ripped pants to notice.
Sorry, I wasn't paying attention. Some fat lady taterskins fan with ripped jeans just walked by my office window. Could you repeat yourself please?
I guess the Johnnie cleared you up right
Quote from: mussa on November 13, 2006, 03:16:55 PM
I guess the Johnnie cleared you up right
Johnnie be good
every year for the past three or four i go on that cabbage soup diet johnson a few times after tailgating/holiday season is over...it helps me rid the 20-30 lbs i gain during that time
i just wanted to vent and say that the first time you do it is utter hell...im currently in day two and im losing it...im shaky and weak.....im starting to see things and i cant understand what anyone says to me at work....
in short.....i wanna kill myself right now
cabbage soup diet? haha. please explain, i can afford to lose 30 and I hate the gym.
http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~jajoo/gmdiet.html
if you can stick to it it really works...ive lost as much as 16 lbs on it (in one week)
its not easy tho
You gain 20-30 pounds over the course of 4 months? Jesus.
Eat less. Move more.
Weird fad diets that offer quick weight loss are not good. Dropping more than 2-3 pounds a week isn't especially healthy. And when you do drop a lot of weight quickly, it's largely water and muscle. Not the way to go.
i gain at least two pounds every eagles game (home and away)
throw in the holidays (in the govt there is a holiday party almost every other day from thanksgiving to x-mas)
and i easily gain 20-30 if not more every sept to january
General Motors: Weight Loss Diet Program. Thats just shady.
Sounds like this diet will make you shtein your ears off. What's the hardest thing about it? So when you get through it, do you just continue it or what I don't have problems with staying away from certain foods. I eat pretty healthy right now, but my metabolism is so slow, I work at a computer and havn't been to the gym since septmeber. I lost 15 lbs through carb diet and gym within like 2-3 months, but gave up on both and gained it all back plus alittle since then.
If people don't change their regular eating/exercising habits, the weight always, always piles back on. If what you're doing isn't working, you need to change what you do.
Also, keep in mind that that when you eat like crap, your body gets loaded with salt and assorted bloat. That initial burst of weight loss is that, not fat.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 23, 2007, 03:36:48 PM
i gain at least two pounds every eagles game (home and away)
throw in the holidays (in the govt there is a holiday party almost every other day from thanksgiving to x-mas)
and i easily gain 20-30 if not more every sept to january
If that is at all true...you will be long dead of heart failure before you hit 40.
Sounds like this diet will make you shtein your ears off. What's the hardest thing about it? So when you get through it, do you just continue it or what I don't have problems with staying away from certain foods.
i piss waaaaaay more on it than shtein...but i have an iron stomach
the hardest part by far is the first few days...when its all fruits and veggies...i reccomend starting it on a friday or the weekend...because those first days are a lot rougher just having to sit at your desk and think about food and have to work plus deal with all the misery that comes with it....at home you can do things like go to the movies or the mall or just lay on the couch and moan...
i usually do it once every month from january to about may/june
but it also works as a nice kick start to eating better...it cleanses your body and shrinks your stomach
the best thing about it is that its a plan that you can follow on a piece of paper...as opposed to a "im just gonna eat healthier" diet which doesnt have any real lines drawn in the sand...another big incentive is that before you start you will be spending a large grocery bill on all the food...more than anything the fear of wasting all that money on food i normally wouldnt buy keeps me to it
its also only a week long with a big pot of gold at the end...its not a six month thing where you lose 12 lbs
so you lose about 16 lbs a month each month from Jan to June? And then you gain all of that weight loss back anyway?
If it works for you, that's great. But the weight you're losing is mostly water weight and muscle-- especially if you're not lifting seriously. As long as you're not kidding yourself.
I just started going back to the gym. My back had started acting up on me and there was a special for new members that was ridiculously cheap. I've been going 5 days a week. My body is not happy about this course of events.
Yeah, but after a week you'll start feeling great.
so you lose about 16 lbs a month each month from Jan to June? And then you gain all of that weight loss back anyway?
16 is the most i lose...usually on the first go round
and its every other month from jan to june...plus the weight i lose from just generally eating better not having anything to do with the diet
If it works for you, that's great
it does....and thanks
Excellent. Delusional yo-yo dieting is fun.
there aint nothing delusional about me losing 40 or so lbs from now till the summer
i love it and so does my speedo
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Quote from: ice grillin you on January 23, 2007, 03:25:35 PM
http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~jajoo/gmdiet.html
if you can stick to it it really works...ive lost as much as 16 lbs on it (in one week)
its not easy tho
I did something very similar a few years ago called the Sacred Heart Diet. Same foods but you constantly ate the soup - which tastes great at first but gets old fast. I only lost 2 lbs. a week but it's not a bad diet.
I'm sort of in the same boat whereas I gain weight during football season - usually 10-15 lbs. At least with this season I've been consistently lifting weights. Come mid Feb. I'm gonna start doing cardio in the beginning of my workout with weights at the end. I gained 15 lbs. since September but a majority of that has been muscle. So I would like to lose 5-10 lbs. but keep what I have. I eat 6 small meals a day consisting of Oatmeal, protein shakes, lean chicken, and sometimes steak. My biggest problem is I like to splurge on the weekends.
What the farg are you guys eating that you're porking up from tailgating? :-D
I would imagine it has more to do with the booze than the brats.
the better question would be what am i NOT eating....and drinking
Same foods but you constantly ate the soup - which tastes great at first but gets old fast
yeah it does...i dont eat it everyday because of that...never on the first day and then usually ill not eat it once the meat days start
My biggest problem is I like to splurge on the weekends.
i think thats pretty much the downfall of everyone...i can help but wanna slam about 20 beers and eat seven cheesteaks immediately after work every friday...
woke up this monring 8.5 lbs lighter than monday thank you
That's downright disturbing.
I just ran three miles in under 22 minutes. Haven't done that since I started smoking in high school.
You asked for it, so here you go:
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Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
I just ran three miles in under 22 minutes. Haven't done that since I started smoking in high school.
How long have you been training leading up to that time?
Quote from: Beermonkey on January 25, 2007, 04:41:56 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on January 25, 2007, 02:13:03 PM
I just ran three miles in under 22 minutes. Haven't done that since I started smoking in high school.
How long have you been training leading up to that time?
Two weeks. My first day back it took me 9 minutes to finish a mile. And after walking for 3 more minutes all I wanted to do was sit on the couch for the rest of my life and drink cold beer until I died.
Actually, that last part hasn't changed. Now I can just run to the liquor store faster.
3 miles in under 20 minutes yesterday.
freak
speaking of freaks, i now wake up at 5:30 every morning and go to the gym. for a person who hates to wake up early, this is incredibly strange.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 26, 2007, 09:35:03 AM
3 miles in under 20 minutes yesterday.
nice. I ran 3 miles the other day to see if I could do it...didn't time myself but I was WELL over 20 mins. Running a 5k for charity in a couple weeks, wanted to see if I could do it. Haven't run that much since I was in college.
i get up at 530 just to barely make it to work on time
Im farging fat, I cant wait for warmer weather to play some roller hockey.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 09:41:36 AM
i get up at 530 just to barely make it to work on time
LOL...me, too.
Once the weather improves, I'm thinking of getting up at 5:00 and walking/jogging for a while before my "real" start time. I did that two years ago, and it really did me good while it lasted.
Just go after work like normal people. Freakshows.
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 09:41:36 AM
i get up at 530 just to barely make it to work on time
Me too.
I spent 5 days in DC last week at a teacher conference. Just spending the afternoon and evenings walking around the monuments, I've lost about 5-7 pounds.
thanks for calling me to do lunch
Quote from: ice grillin you on February 26, 2007, 01:05:16 PM
thanks for calling me to do lunch
I tried, but apparently you didn't hear me yellnig "IGEEEEEEEEEEEEE" on Pennsylvania Avenue.
speaking of dieting, i almost ate a whole sleeve of girl scout cookies today.
Same here Phatty, I just got my box of Samoa's. 4 down one to go :boom
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 26, 2007, 02:23:51 PM
Same here Phatty, I just got my box of Samoa's. 4 down one to go :boom
i got 2 samoas and one of the peanut butter johnsons.
No thin mints?! Jesus man, what the farg is wrong with you?
thin mints are the worst of the bunch. i'd rather eat the plain ones than thin mints.
I have eaten an entire box of thin mints in one sitting and would happily do it again. They are the most deliciousest. Hands down.
Somoas are my favorite followed by the thin mints. All the rest can burn.
The peanutbutter paties are also delicious but disliking thin mints is fargING UNAMERICAN!
I'm not a big cookie guy, but I could do some damage to a box of Thin Mints if they were in front of me. Wouldn't wreck the diet with any of the others.
I forgot about those damned cookies. We bought some a while back, and they should be arriving just in time for me to lust after them...but not eat any. Can't derail the diet, even for those little bastiches.
I'm not a big fan of sweets but for two weeks every year I farging shovel girlscout cookies into my mouth until I feel like I'm going to pop. I love those goddamned things.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 26, 2007, 03:31:20 PM
I'm not a big fan of sweets but for two weeks every year I farging shovel girlscout cookies into my mouth until I feel like I'm going to pop. I love those goddamned things.
same here. i don't even like cookies that much, but there is something addictive that those little bitches put in them.
The secret ingredient is girl scout pee.
I didn't think it was a secret.
I thought Kathy Ireland put coke in it?
i bought a box of caramel delights and didn't touch one
Shook the box right into your mouth?
no silly
Did you cram them directly into your rectum? I hear you absorb the MDMA faster that way.
i'll tell you what i did
i made a salad, and poured the cookies on top of it. it has to be healthy that way
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on February 26, 2007, 04:26:19 PM
I thought Kathy Ireland put coke in it?
National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon I
I'm back down to my pre-Boston weight. Suck my balls, Dunkin Donuts.
What weight is that, how much did you lose, and how did you lose it?
I was at the Docs office a few weeks back because of an abscess on my neck, had to get weighed which I was dreading. I'm 30-35 lbs. heavier than I was at this point last year. I'd say 10-15 lbs of that is muscle since I was lifting heavy 4-5 days a week, but the rest is fat (relationships do that). So I started doing cardio again and the weight is coming off. Feeling better too - more energy.
Basically I'm doing 30 minutes on the eliptical followed by light weights.
My diet is:
Breakfast: egg whites in the morning with whole wheat toast - but some days its just oatmeal
Lunch:Grilled chicken with veggies - usually broccoli or something green
Dinner: same as lunch but I sometimes switch the meat.
I know once football season rolls around I won't be able to diet so I'm trying to lose the 20 now.
I'm at 173. I've dropped about 16 pounds strictly through cardio (and cutting out a little bit of sugar). I do some light lifting but I don't have any desire to add bulk so I keep it simple. Basically, I just hit the treadmill 3-4 times a week for 20-30 minutes and follow it up with 30 minutes of whatever weights I feel like doing. A lot less soda and a lot more walking the dog probably helped too, but I still eat like shtein and drink like a fish so I'm guessing if I actually ever dieted like a woman I'd just waste away to nothing.
Nice. Cardio is really the key, I can't drop weight by simply eating less or eating better. I cut the beer for now and switched to whiskey/vodka/scotch with diet soda. Also laid off on the green a little, the munchies and late night cold stone runs were killing me.
im 5'7 and at 164. i started lifting last fall and gained close to 20 pounds....some muscle but some fat also as i tried to follow a eating regimen strictly while work took a toll on me and i couldn't go regularly to the gym throughout the year.
i have some definition but i really wanna lose my belly so i started running on the day i dont go to the gym to lift.
i always thought you were not supposed to run and then lift or lift and then run. if i wanna lose the belly should i try running and lifting on the same day or keep it separated like i have?
I don't have any idea how to answer that question since my body seems to react more drastically to exercise than most. I've always run and lifted together but each makes the other more difficult. A heavy lifting session first makes running absolutely exhausting. You feel like you're trying to run through mud. But the same goes for running first. Saps all of your stamina making lifting more difficult.
If you're doing what I'm doing, trying to get your mass down while having some definition, running first and then light weights seems to work, but the fact that you have been lifting to gain mass means that my shcedule probably isn't for you.
Its almost impossible to gain muscle while losing fat unless you have a helper which I don't recommend. Lifting and doing cardio the same day is fine - my best workouts with weights are after I'm done doing 30 minutes of cardio.
Only way the belly is coming off is if you do cardio and watch what you eat. Lifting and working your abs will add muscle but won't take the fat away. Best advice I could give you is to keep doing cardio and lifting weights. Assuming you're watching your diet the stomach weight will come off fast and you'll maintain what muscle you already have.
Magical, from my expierience it's always better to do running and whatever else on the same day you lift. Now I never ran just for cardio, it was always agility drills and sprints and stuff to try and boost speed/agility. So it might not be the same thing. But that was the plan I was on and it gained me about 20 pounds of muslce and got my 40 time down to roughly a 4.5. I miss those days.
Now I'm 5'9 172, mostly because I've been lifting 3 times a week and not running at all. Definatley not healthy, I gotta start running again and get my ass in shape. But I always enjoyed doing the running before I lifted because it would warm up my muscles.
I'm pretty sure that taking workout/diet advice from a 19 year old doesn't make a lick of sense. Anything and everything you do when you're that age gets you into shape/builds muscle. Anyone who's fat at 19 isn't trying.
Cardio breaks down muscle while weight lifting builds muscle. But sure, it makes perfect sense to do both on the same day.
No wonder you're still a scrawny little bitch, Munson.
Pretty much everyone here has said that they run and lift on the same day.
I appreciate taking a job at Munson of course, but doing both during a workout is a pretty common practice...
Concrete Field is definitely the best place to find exercise advise. I mean, when I first started posting here I was 175 pounds and had 6% body fat. Now I'm 215, I have heart trouble as well as a curious compulsion to eat bacon at every meal.
Who knew?
I eat bacon 6 times a day and I'm losing weight. Then again, I rule, so it isn't really a fair comparison.
I run and lift on the same days too...it works for me.
Yeah, but what about the bacon?
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2007, 05:20:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that taking workout/diet advice from a 19 year old doesn't make a lick of sense. Anything and everything you do when you're that age gets you into shape/builds muscle. Anyone who's fat at 19 isn't trying.
Considering I've done the same weight lifting/training/agility program on and off for the last 3 years, yeah I'd say I know what I'm talking about. Especially considering I've put on 8 pounds of (mostly) muscle in the last 4 months since I got on it again. And that's without doing squats. Which is the best way to put on weight if you're trying to gain.
Romey, 172 at 5'9 isn't scrawny in the least bit. A lot kids my age and height are weighing at 160, some even down in the 145-150 range. They need to get on RJS' bacon diet. And weight lifting actually tears the fibers and breaks down muslce, it's the repairing process that actually builds the muscle bigger and stronger afterwords.
You and your high school coach still play hide-the-potato with each other when you're in town for homecoming, don't you?
I work for a living and eat like a man. 6'2" 205 and doing fine.
Fat is lazy.
I run and lift bacon at the same time.
I make the bacon run to me.
Usual daily diet starting w/the first meal with about 3 hour increments of each other:
1. Bowl of frosted mini-wheats/or raisin bran w/non-fat milk
2. Turkey sandwich w/cheese, mustard, light light-mayo & some type of 10 to 12 grain bread or tuna sandwich
3. rarely oatmeal...but usually another bowl of cereal...raisin bran, target bran cinamond toast crunch or mini-wheats
4. dinner (pasta, or some meat/or chicken ...nothing too heavy)....
5. another bowl of cereal before I sleep.
( I know I'm probably vitamin deficient in some areas...for some reason I don't take in that much chicken/fish or meat)....
I will mix in a frozen burrito and lean cuisines meals...but I always make sure to have a sandwich daily. I love sandwiches.
I've been taking fish oil supplements w/Omega 3's. Everyone once in a while I'll take a multi-vitamin
Workout Routine:
I was playing basketball 2 to 3 times a week and I burned off about 12lbs....I'm down to 183. I've since joined a basketball league and am playing 2 times a week...I'd play more but I have shin problems.
I'll play tennis and raquetball as well. I hate running...but I'll run around the rose bowl (3 miles around...I'm up to a mile and a half!)...like I said I hate running.
I've been recently going to the gym again...I do curls and squats and shoulders with weights everything else is just body weight, pull-ups, dips, push ups, abs, back extensions and jump roping.
I'm trying to prevent having a 60 year old body and heart by the time I hit 40...its either now or never.
Like I said, I was in the mid to low 190's at the beginning of the year.
Trick is to turn up your metabolism to burn off the weight. Eat 5 to 7 times a day...and its like feeding coal to a steam engine...just enough to keep it going....put too much and the shtein won't burn that fast....couple that with exercising and eating the right foods...your body and your heart will be thanking you.
You also have to sleep well...I sleep late...and average around 5 hours of sleep a day...that's no good.
The older you are...the extra you have to train in order to maintain your shape.
Quote from: hbionic on August 06, 2007, 05:01:29 AM
The older you are...the extra you have to train in order to maintain your shape.
Well, that would explain it for me.
Quote from: Munson on August 05, 2007, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2007, 05:20:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that taking workout/diet advice from a 19 year old doesn't make a lick of sense. Anything and everything you do when you're that age gets you into shape/builds muscle. Anyone who's fat at 19 isn't trying.
Considering I've done the same weight lifting/training/agility program on and off for the last 3 years, yeah I'd say I know what I'm talking about. Especially considering I've put on 8 pounds of (mostly) muscle in the last 4 months since I got on it again. And that's without doing squats. Which is the best way to put on weight if you're trying to gain.
At 19 your body still has an influx of hormones aka testosterone and a bit of growth hormone - not to mention your metabolism should be throught the roof. Once you're 25 your body will start to slow down, by the time you're 30 if you don't have a good diet along with some exercise you'll pack on pounds fast. And in case you're thinking to yourself "I'm different"...you're not.
I'm on roids.
Quote from: hbionic on August 06, 2007, 05:01:29 AM
...I'd play more but I have shin problems.
It's from all that ankle-grabbing.
thanks for all the tips...
ill keep running on my off days and see if i can also mix it in for when i lift.
my upper body (chest, arms, and shoulders) is pretty defined...its just the belly.
Apparently a frozen burrito helps a lot.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 06, 2007, 05:00:51 PM
Apparently a frozen burrito helps a lot.
lol. It's not a bad meal to have....they range form 285 to mid 300's in calories...no transfat... and adding some pace picante sauce to dip it in...its not bad at all. As long as you don't eat 3 or 4 at one sitting, you're ok.
They say going through a normal routine, your body burns around 2000 calories a day.
By the way, I'm down to 179. I'm disappearing. :o Hard to believe that 7 years ago I weighed 210lbs. Rediculous. And I still have a gut.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 06, 2007, 10:16:09 AM
Quote from: Munson on August 05, 2007, 07:25:37 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 05, 2007, 05:20:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that taking workout/diet advice from a 19 year old doesn't make a lick of sense. Anything and everything you do when you're that age gets you into shape/builds muscle. Anyone who's fat at 19 isn't trying.
Considering I've done the same weight lifting/training/agility program on and off for the last 3 years, yeah I'd say I know what I'm talking about. Especially considering I've put on 8 pounds of (mostly) muscle in the last 4 months since I got on it again. And that's without doing squats. Which is the best way to put on weight if you're trying to gain.
At 19 your body still has an influx of hormones aka testosterone and a bit of growth hormone - not to mention your metabolism should be throught the roof. Once you're 25 your body will start to slow down, by the time you're 30 if you don't have a good diet along with some exercise you'll pack on pounds fast. And in case you're thinking to yourself "I'm different"...you're not.
Oh I know all that is true. I'm definatley not looking forward to the day that my metabolism slows down. As a 19 year old I really can't say shtein about things diet wise, because I could (and do) have the worst diet in the world and it really doesn't matter at this age. I was just talking in terms of weight lifting/training. The program I've been on isn't suited just for young teens-early 20's. The guy who set it up is in his 30's now and still does it, though once you hit stage 4 I'm not sure where you go from there. I'm still back in Stage 2 of it again since I keep slacking off. I am putting up 190 on my 3rd set of 5 right now though, which is a weight I havn't been able to bench since my junior year.
My favorite way to gain muscle weight is definately squats, but if you don't do them for a while it's a pain (literally) to get back into them. Especially since I have no athletic incentive to do them, I don't play a sport anymore so I have no reason to want to be more powerful/explosive/fast.
Munson
For big gains try reading Mark Rippetoe's book. A couple guys at my gym similar to you do his routine and have made gigantic gains.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 08, 2007, 09:50:06 PM
Munson
For big gains try reading Mark Rippetoe's book. A couple guys at my gym similar to you do his routine and have made gigantic gains.
Definately will check it out. I've been hovering at 165-172 for about a year now, I'd like to get up to 180-185. I gotta start running again though so I don't get even slower then I've already become. I miss being fast.
Eat more cheesesteaks, drink more beer and quit acting like women, the lot of you.
it really is awesome to be a dude
There's nothing more embarrassing than going out to eat or party with you buddies and they waste time actually looking over the menu for something lo-cal.
A buddy of mine does that and it's infuriating. We'll be getting ready to watch the Eagles at the pub and he'll be pissing and moaning because the waitress brought him regular italian dressing instead of the low calorie shtein.
What a flag.
i'm serious when i say this...you need to knock whatever is in front of him on the floor and mock him for all the bar to see
i don't care how far into a diet i am, when i'm out at a bar...it's body-wreckin time
He gets a beer and an ice water to go with each beer to stay hydrated. He also pitches a fit whenever the waitress has the gall to put lemon in it.
Swear to god.
We should toss him a beating just for the lemon thing but no one seems to care enough to get upset anymore. We do mock him a lot, though, but after awhile it's like making fun of retards or AIDS patients. Where's the sport, ya know?
Dieting is for women.
Exercise is for men.
Beer is for me. Hands off.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 09, 2007, 03:08:07 PM
He gets a beer and an ice water to go with each beer to stay hydrated. He also pitches a fit whenever the waitress has the gall to put lemon in it.
Swear to god.
We should toss him a beating just for the lemon thing but no one seems to care enough to get upset anymore. We do mock him a lot, though, but after awhile it's like making fun of retards or AIDS patients. Where's the sport, ya know?
How does a dipshtein like this actually have male friends? Where do people like this even come from. I can't imagine finding myself in a situation where I was compelled to hang out with this douche.
Maybe he pays to have an entourage.
Maybe he should strap on a set.
Maybe he already has a massive beanbag and doesn't care what people think.
Either way, he should self-ban from watching contact sports in public.
you really think someone who bitches about lemon in their water has enough self awareness to self-ban themselves from anything?
Probably not. Maybe you should take care of banning him from life personally, tough guy.
calm down sexy
I think RIPpy made the whole thing up.
No one bitches about a slice of lemon in water.
oh yes they do...i've seen it
Quote from: Wingspan on August 09, 2007, 04:02:13 PM
I think RIPpy made the whole thing up.
No one bitches about a slice of lemon in water.
Right - because I have the imagination to make up something like that.
:-D
mixing water in with your beers is a good habit. I drink a selzter with every other beer, don't suffer hangovers like my friends do. the habit is so strong I even do it after I've blacked out.
Three demerits for drinking seltzer.
78 demerits for sharing that information.
I drink that shtein by the liter. Love it. I'll even drink it warm.
I made the horrible mistake of reading up on carbonation and the awesome things it does to you. NOw the only carbonated beverage I drink is beer. And that's because I'm a raging addict.
Quote from: SunMo on August 09, 2007, 04:03:02 PM
oh yes they do...i've seen it
I thought you didn't hang out with those types of guys.
i don't
the people i've seen do it wear dresses, they're called women
Bump for the obsessive-compulsive, anal-retentive hoyda who can't handle certain topics in the random musings thread.
Down to 179lbs...and I still have a gut.
A 40 lbs. differance from my with 6 years ago.
Did the majority of that weight come from the portion of your brain that handles grammar?
Are you insinuating that his brain had 40 pounds to lose? I'm insinuating that it did not.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 28, 2007, 10:11:44 PM
Did the majority of that weight come from the portion of your brain that handles grammar?
No, the part that handles spell check. :'(
I was around 200 lbs when I first posted this thread, jumped on the scale in Februrary and was about 235...so that's about 35 lbs. in a year and a half. I started eating a lot more because I wanted to gain more size. Combine that with the fact I stopped working out almost altogether when my g/f got pregnant and it was time to shed some pounds. March 1st was my start date, I really just concentrated on cutting out the bad carbs and keeping my calorie level down and the weight came right off. I'm down to the 215 range now.
Over the past two weeks I have been feeling awful, aches and pains everywhere, sweating for no reason, big time nausea, depression, headaches, fogginess, couldn't think straight, dizziness, fatigue, shortness of breath from doing anything at all physical, and my muscles felt like mush. I couldn't figure out what was wrong until I looked at my diet. I've been using Splenda in everything. My Uncle the chiropractor mentioned the stuff was poison to the body but I always thought it was a bunch of nonsense. I found this site (http://splendasickness.blogspot.com/2006/03/nausea-vomiting.html) and a couple others where people have experienced the same thing. So anyway, I've been completely off any kind of artificial sweetener for almost 2 days and am starting to feel better.
Your uncle the chiropractor is obviously an expert on the subject.
I have been trying to gain weight for the past 2 months. I have put on about 10 lbs so far. My eating habits are kind of screwed up because of my lack of a normal scedule, I started taking weight gainer about a month ago and it is starting to make a difference. I am up to about 190, I would like to be at 205 before I leave here.
DMF, are you in the services? I can't remember. Regular everyday adults who try to gain weight confuse the shtein out of me. It's not like any of you are getting drafted and need to move from LB to DE. Any weight you gain and turn into muscle mass is going to turn right into fat as soon as you stop working out and then you'll look like shtein and feel like shtein. Building muscle mass is healthy, taking weight gainer to add pounds is retarded.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on May 05, 2008, 07:50:39 AM
I have been trying to gain weight for the past 2 months. I have put on about 10 lbs so far. My eating habits are kind of screwed up because of my lack of a normal scedule, I started taking weight gainer about a month ago and it is starting to make a difference. I am up to about 190, I would like to be at 205 before I leave here.
I'd stay off the weight gainer, like russell said its just empty calories and sugar and will ultimately just turn to fat. If you're having that hard of a time getting calories try some whey protein bars. Animal protein is still the best thing for gaining size but if you don't have access to chicken and steak 6-8 times a day you have to make do with what you can. Also keep an eye on your waistline, I was a 34-36 size waist and was putting on decent size, weights were going up tremendously, then I noticed I wasn't fitting into my pants anymore and had to go with a 38. Back down to 36 again but having to lose weight sucks.
RJS yes I am in the Army. I am still staying pretty lean even though I am adding weight. I work out about 1 1/2 to 2 hrs a day. My other problem is that I am in a Bradley and after I have all of my gear on it is around 120 in there and by the time summer really kicks in it will be about 140-150 in there. That in itself makes it difficult to add any sort of weight. I also have my roomate monitor what I am doing he is pretty much a freak of nature when it comes to the gym.
I'm an over-achiever. I don't even TRY to add weight, but yet I can do it almost effortlessly. I, ladies and gentleman, am a beast.
When I can drink beer as much as I want I can to. I actually lost over 10 pounds almost as soon as I got here because there is no more beer in my diet.
Yet another reason to get the troops out of the Middle East.
or to get some alcohol over there...maybe everyone would calm the farg down
Now that I'm actually awake I'd like to point out the fact that I am a retard for not remembering that DMF is in the Army. Additionally, I'd like to add SunMo's plan to send beer to the middle east to my anti-zombie campaign platform.
so that makes me the top candidate for Secretary of State when you are elected?
You called it, you got it.
I pretty much cut splenda out. The only time I use it is in the morning when I eat my oatmeal and I use a teaspoon along with some cinnamon. Previously I was using it on the oats and in my protein shakes.
I took a couple months off from working out. Mostly because of my schedule. But I ramped it back up to get rid of the final 25 that I want to lose. I hope to be 225 by July.
The good news was that during the no workout period I did not gain a pound. I ate pretty healthy but allowed myself pizza and things like that on occasion. Now its strict diet time again and honestly, I missed this.
Christian Bale on working out for his role as Patrick Bateman for American Psycho, released in 2000:
"The character is so vain and obsessed with his looks. While the psychology of the character was something that I could perform, you can't fake the physicality. Being English, I tend to enjoy going down to the pub far more than going to the gym, so it was very unnatural for me. I just had to convince myself that I loved it, which was the most difficult thing about playing this part. Working out is incredibly boring. I swear it's true that the bigger your muscles get, the fewer brain cells you have. I found I had to stop thinking when I was in the gym because if I thought about it, I'd realize how ridiculous it was that I was pumping iron when I could've been out having a drink and a cigarette and enjoying some lunch."
That interview is from when that movie was released, unless he's recycling material in his current interviews...
oh, I don't claim it's new..it's new to me and I just liked it
Ah, well carry on then.
It's true though, I find working out to be boring. But at the same time if I don't do it I feel like a slacker. I joined the Y down here because I needed more to do than what my apartment fitness center has to offer. As boring as it is the results are addictive.
I think when you first start out, it can get boring....but as you build up weight and get stronger, it's pretty fun (IMO anyway) to challenge yourself with a weight you've never done before.
Especially when squatting.
But the first few weeks getting back into the routine are boring because you're doing light ass weights and it hurts like a bitch.
Joined up to a local gym (Body Dynamics) this morning. Did 35 minutes of cardio and a little bit of weights. A year and a half ago I was doing 8-10 reps of 80-90 lbs. dumbells. I struggled with 70 for 8 this morning but it's been a year and a half so I haven't lost too much strength. I really just want to get my fat ass back down to 200 lbs.
Anyone ever done a Keto diet?
I am getting after it hard again because I want to get down to 225 finally. After fargin off for a year (I can't believe its been a year already) and maintaining the 252-255 weight, I want to get 30 off.
But the diet I did in 2007 was very strict and very boring. I'm lookin to switch it up a bit.
I'm steady at 210, working for a living, consuming whatever I want. If that doesn't work for you then you want to consume too much. Decrease the eating.
I did that for the past year and maintained at this weight. But I want to get 30 more off and then I'll go back to eating and drinking whatever I want and stay at 225 and be happy.
I was happy to drop all the weight and be 250. Now I want more.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 28, 2008, 12:46:03 AM
I'm steady at 210, working for a living, consuming whatever I want. If that doesn't work for you then you want to consume too much. Decrease the eating.
Thats been my problem. You eat and drink too much and you
can't work it off. Draft beer along with meat and potatoes kills me. I absolutly love it though. Sit ups and crunches are getting harder and harder too do as I get farther past 40. I have no problem with curling, and bench presses , but now, my 17 year old son can do twice as many situps as I, and it's starting to show on me.
He's going in the Navy and I'm losing my workout partner, which will make it boring as shtein. I'll prolly' end up a beer bellied couch potato.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2008, 01:07:47 AM
I did that for the past year and maintained at this weight. But I want to get 30 more off and then I'll go back to eating and drinking whatever I want and stay at 225 and be happy.
I was happy to drop all the weight and be 250. Now I want more.
Ever try cross fit (http://www.crossfit.com/)? My uncle teaches classes on it and people swear by it. It's only a 20 minute workout but you're dead afterwards. It's a great combination of weights and cardio.
I'm in the 220 range, plan was to get down to 200-205 range and start Brazialian Jiu Jitzu. Was getting up at 5 every morning and going to the gym. Lost about 10 lbs. in the first 3 weeks. Then I hurt my back and was stricken in bed for a week. Haven't been back to the gym since because of the pain. I'm hoping I'm able to go back in a week or two.
I've been doing light cardio and strength training 2-3 times per week for the past year. Haven't gained anything and haven't lost anything either. Meh - I'm 43 years old and don't give a shtein if I look good anymore anyway. Just trying to maintain some semblance of health as I march ever closer to death.
Good enough.
I'm about 215 pounds right now. If I ate better and increased the cardio I'd be down to 200 again in a few weeks, but really, why bother?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 28, 2008, 07:28:54 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2008, 01:07:47 AM
I did that for the past year and maintained at this weight. But I want to get 30 more off and then I'll go back to eating and drinking whatever I want and stay at 225 and be happy.
I was happy to drop all the weight and be 250. Now I want more.
Ever try cross fit (http://www.crossfit.com/)? My uncle teaches classes on it and people swear by it. It's only a 20 minute workout but you're dead afterwards. It's a great combination of weights and cardio.
I'm in the 220 range, plan was to get down to 200-205 range and start Brazialian Jiu Jitzu. Was getting up at 5 every morning and going to the gym. Lost about 10 lbs. in the first 3 weeks. Then I hurt my back and was stricken in bed for a week. Haven't been back to the gym since because of the pain. I'm hoping I'm able to go back in a week or two.
Nope, but it looks interesting.
On the site they have a place listed here in Houston pretty close to home and work. I may have to check it out. Have you done it?
just got a WiiFit, gonna see if it motivates me
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on September 28, 2008, 07:10:50 PM
just got a WiiFit, gonna see if it motivates me
That might be gayer than the Eagles losing to the Bears like they did.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2008, 12:18:12 PM
Nope, but it looks interesting.
On the site they have a place listed here in Houston pretty close to home and work. I may have to check it out. Have you done it?
I wanted to give it a try but my back is so farged up I have to take baby steps and ease my way back. My uncle (you know him, he comes to games with me) does it and a bunch of other people swear it's the greatest thing ever. We've all been brought up watching pumping iron and thinking eating big, lifting big, then doing repetitive cardio is the best way to train. This essentially combines all of that into different motions. My other uncle (race car driver) was 260 and went down to 225 in 2-3 months on that program.
A buddy of mine in my unit is really into that Cross Fit, he swears by it. He is one of those guys that looks like a fat ass but is in pretty damn good shape. While the results haven't shown aesthetically for him, it certainly has for as far as his endurance goes. He actually plans on opening a gym for that type of training when we get back.
For me I am doing a typical weight training regiment and the results have been very good as of late. If only I could eat a little better, though it is real tough over here.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 29, 2008, 10:57:49 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 28, 2008, 12:18:12 PM
Nope, but it looks interesting.
On the site they have a place listed here in Houston pretty close to home and work. I may have to check it out. Have you done it?
I wanted to give it a try but my back is so farged up I have to take baby steps and ease my way back. My uncle (you know him, he comes to games with me) does it and a bunch of other people swear it's the greatest thing ever. We've all been brought up watching pumping iron and thinking eating big, lifting big, then doing repetitive cardio is the best way to train. This essentially combines all of that into different motions. My other uncle (race car driver) was 260 and went down to 225 in 2-3 months on that program.
I may give it a shot. I was thinking about it today while trudging away on the elliptical. As addicted as I am to staying in shape now, I have to avoid the boredom. I'm not trying to get jacked. I just want to be 220-225.
When I dropped all the weight in 2007 I did 6 days a week at the gym for at least 90 mins a day. Same excercises, same routine each day. Same strict diet. It got really boring.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 29, 2008, 07:50:33 PM
When I dropped all the weight in 2007 I did 6 days a week at the gym for at least 90 mins a day. Same excercises, same routine each day. Same strict diet. It got really boring.
With weights you want to switch it up as much as possible. Muscle has really good memory and the more you switch it up the better results you'll see. People get obsessed with stuff like how much they can bench but for the overall development of the muscle it's good to mix in incline, dumbells, push ups, flies, decline etc.
Yeah, I am guilty of not being creative.
I don't lift heavy. Even if I wanted to, I could not. Between my wrist and my shoulder, range of motion and strength is pure shtein.
I use dumb bells and cables. That's all for upper body. I used to use the Smith machine free weights, but my apartment gym doesn't have one. So I switched to DB's. I read that the instability of the DB's and cables helps the peripheral muscle groups and not just the target muscle groups.
Anyone ever use heavy bag for workout? I've joined gyms before and they bore me to no end, I can't get into a routine. Starting to research punching/kicking bag routines. seems like a fun way to shed some pounds at home.
I used to really like working the heavy bag. Speed bag is a lot of fun, too. If you're going to do one, it feels great to incorporate the other.
I stopped running and going to the gym about 6 weeks ago. I am making my triumphant return this week. I've gained zero pounds in the mean time but I'm squishy everywhere. Gross.
Quote from: Zanshin on January 05, 2009, 08:43:27 AM
I used to really like working the heavy bag. Speed bag is a lot of fun, too. If you're going to do one, it feels great to incorporate the other.
I need to look up proper taping techniques for hands. Don't need to break anything
I got lazy the last few months of the year and basically quit going and ate a lot of garbage. We're having a competition at work, 20 buy in, to see who loses the most by March. I just got done a 90 minute workout and I'm mad that I got so lazy the last few months.
The Wii Fit said I needed to lose at least 5-10 pounds. I haven't used that farger since.
Hahahaha. Excerising with a video game. What the farg is wrong with humanity?
Not humanity. Just me. Don't project my issues on the whole world, fleshpop.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 05, 2009, 11:52:30 AM
Hahahaha. Excerising with a video game. What the farg is wrong with humanity?
about a $1,000,000,000 in revenue in under 12 months...where has the world turned?
Due to sickness/finals/holidays/excuses I haven't worked out since mid Dec. I'm getting back on the horse this week with cardio but will try to mix some weights in here and there.
Quote from: mussa on January 05, 2009, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: Zanshin on January 05, 2009, 08:43:27 AM
I used to really like working the heavy bag. Speed bag is a lot of fun, too. If you're going to do one, it feels great to incorporate the other.
I need to look up proper taping techniques for hands. Don't need to break anything
Might be better off with a pair of gloves, unless you're really worried about your wrists.
i was thinking bag gloves or mma gloves...plus tape. i read its a good idea to tape for protection
Taping just takes too much time, I think. I sort of put that into the category of things that I realize would be good for me, yet still don't do. It's something of a massive list.
you need tape to keep from rolling your wrist. once you learn how to do it you'll be taping up pretty quickly. you don't need gloves for hitting the heavy bag, but if you want a better workout you should wear those too simply for the weight
I can't believe I'm posting in this woman thread..does it make my butt look big??
mussa buy some cheap gloves, taping is a royal pain in the ass and doesn't work as well.
I'll never hit the heavy bag again without having my wrists taped. I farged my left one up once. Wasn't broke according to the x-rays, but it shore as shtein felt like it. Hurt for two farging weeks.
Mussa, this guy gives a pretty good example how to do it, I know it's a pain in the ass, but if you want to really cut loose it's a priority.
http://www.youtube.com/v/Z_5qmNr2zNY&feature=channel
Some only wrap twice around the wrist starting out and wrap more around the knuckles, I like this guy who does it four times starting out. Once you get the general idea you can pretty much go with what you think feels best.
I guess it depends on your wrists. I worked the bag for years and never had a problem without the tape.
well then you are either some kind of titanium tendoned motherfarger
or you're a little man who punches like a girl
Quote from: Zanshin on January 05, 2009, 10:19:01 PM
I guess it depends on your wrists. I worked the bag for years and never had a problem without the tape.
same although not for years
Quote from: Diomedes on January 06, 2009, 12:13:17 AM
well then you are either some kind of titanium tendoned motherfarger
or you're a little man who punches like a girl
I'll let you be the judge. But I have a pretty good sense about which way you're leaning.
For what it's worth...I don't care whether anyone uses tape or not. I hit the bag pretty regularly using decent gloves and didn't have a problem. I have pretty strong hands/wrists from training in martial arts since I was a kid, so that could have something to do with it. I really don't know. Maybe he should just try it with and without the tape to see what works for him.
I'll side with titanium and please don't hurt me.
Hurt you? I'm counting on you for a reference when I finally decide to go dig ditches for a living.
yea i don't have a background in martial arts, ha. i think wrist tape is a good idea instead of sprained wrist. i don't think its about if your wrist are strong or not, its technique. if you hit the bag at a bad angle with enough force, you can farg up your wrist. i think with time ill get away from it but don't want to risk any injury right now.
Just do a few lines of coke before you hit the bag. You won't feel a sprain at all.
bought a wave master standing training bag tonight and got nice gloves with built in wrist protection. i just hope it withstands the awesome power i'm about to unleash on it
If you end up getting into that, you should look into the speed bag. Once you get the hang of it, it's a lot of fun.
well i was really surprised how much of a workout it can be. after 20 minutes i was gasping. my hands and wrists seem fine, my legs and left shoulder were what got cramped up first.
i must be a natural south paw because i feel more comfortable with my strong arm jabbing. i bat left and throw right so this has a lot to do with it.
any chance you could post a picture of you and the speed bag in the photography thread?
thanks
why so you can jerk off to it. taint licker
Quote from: mussa on January 07, 2009, 04:08:46 PMtaint licker
you're confusing
reese with
rjs. he's all about the anal pore
Hairy anus gets the fisticuffs.
wet naps for that nickle hole
the more I look into and learn about working out, weight loss, etc...it intrigues me. I wish I would of known half this stuff years ago when I went to gym. I was never the type of guy who needed to gain weight, I have problems keeping it off. Got this Mens Health book that really dissects a lot of things and its starting to make sense. Hopefully I can stick to this program(weight lifting mostly) and loose around 40 lbs by month 6. I think I can stick to diet, its just the working out hard an effectively that I'm sort of sketchy about. Good thing is I have a workout partner and I think that's going to help big time.
Do it now before you get too old, Mussa. Trust me on that... it's a bitch staying active after you pass 40.
Quote from: Rome on January 10, 2009, 06:39:11 PM
Do it now before you get too old, Mussa. Trust me on that... it's a bitch staying active after you pass 30.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 10, 2009, 10:46:28 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 10, 2009, 06:39:11 PM
Do it now before you get too old, Mussa. Trust me on that... it's a bitch staying active after you pass 30.
Or 35...
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 10, 2009, 10:46:28 PM
Quote from: Rome on January 10, 2009, 06:39:11 PM
Do it now before you get too old, Mussa. Trust me on that... it's a bitch staying active after you pass 18.
I'm a lazy icehole.
It's been hard as hell for me to get on a gym schedule the last three weeks or so. Work has gotten so busy to the point that I cannot break away for 90 minutes a day like I used to be able to do. And it's pissing me off.
When I lived in PA and was losing all the weight, I was there 6 days a week for 90mins+. When I was working inside the office down here I could go after work. Now that I'm outside and busier than hell, some times I can't go for two or three days in a row. I still get 3-4 days a week in, but it just doesn't feel the same.
For example..today I thought I had time to go. I got in there, got about 15 minutes into my sets and had to leave because of work. I'm going to try to go early in the morning again, but that 6am stuff is a bitch.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20090501/US.MED.Diet.Pill.Recall/
QuoteWASHINGTON — Government health officials warned dieters and body builders Friday to immediately stop using Hydroxycut, a widely sold supplement linked to cases of serious liver damage and at least one death.
The Food and Drug Administration said the company that makes the dietary supplement has agreed to recall 14 Hydroxycut products. Available in grocery stores and pharmacies, Hydroxycut is advertised as made from natural ingredients. At least 9 million packages were sold last year, the FDA said.
Dr. Linda Katz of the FDA's food and nutrition division said the agency has received 23 reports of liver problems, including the death of a 19-year-old boy living in the Southwest. The teenager died in 2007, and the death was reported to the FDA this March.
Other patients experienced symptoms ranging from jaundice, or yellowing of the skin, to liver failure. One received a transplant and another was placed on a list to await a new liver. The patients were otherwise healthy and their symptoms began after they started using Hydroxycut, regulators said.
Wow. I've taken Hydroxycut Hardcore for about 2 years on and off. I last used it about 6 weeks ago. I was about to order more, but never mind that.
I've had no issues though.
I've been lucky enough to avoid using any type of supplement ever. I've always tried to keep it clean, but the temptation is always there.
I squatted on Wednesday for the first time in months....I've hated myself the last two days for doing it. farging squats.
Quote from: Munson on May 02, 2009, 05:08:44 AM
I've been lucky enough to avoid using any type of supplement ever. I've always tried to keep it clean, but the temptation is always there.
I squatted on Wednesday for the first time in months....I've hated myself the last two days for doing it. farging squats.
How is that luck? You're happy one didn't jump into your mouth?
Haven't used Hydroxycut in 3 or 4 years but that's some scary shtein.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 02, 2009, 08:52:25 AM
Quote from: Munson on May 02, 2009, 05:08:44 AM
I've been lucky enough to avoid using any type of supplement ever. I've always tried to keep it clean, but the temptation is always there.
I squatted on Wednesday for the first time in months....I've hated myself the last two days for doing it. farging squats.
How is that luck? You're happy one didn't jump into your mouth?
Because it's been a huge temptation since freshman year of high school. You go into any high school gym and 85% of the kids in there are using some sort of supplement. And they're always willing to share.
That's still not luck.
Luck is when they pin him down in the shower and force feed him protein shakes instead of supplements.
Exactly.
Flax seed oil. Thoughts?
yes you can smoke it
Correct answer.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2009, 06:47:25 PM
Flax seed oil. Thoughts?
Good for the joints and recovery times
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2009, 06:47:25 PM
Flax seed oil. Thoughts?
good for stiff joints, stiff wangs, causes mud butt, zombies hate it.
for real though--
it tastes like garbage, so add it to a shake or something to make it easier to digest. There are plenty of clinical benefits as Im sure you already googled it. Get yourself a nice grub and take it an 1 hr before your workout. It will slow the absorption of proteins in your muscles and build mass quicker when lifting
Thanks reese, does this mean we're dating now?
i dont think igy would be too happy about that..so no
burn.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 05, 2009, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2009, 06:47:25 PM
Flax seed oil. Thoughts?
Good for the joints
This part I somehow didn't catch in my googling. This is probably the best selling point for me. My skinny bony ass wasn't built to take the beating I've laid on it from years of collision sports and high impact running. I can feel my knees starting to crack and my ankles have been shtein for years if this crap can help delay their total collapse I am sold.
can i sue Hydroxycut for my liver damage?
RJS, i would recommend Milk Thistle, with a high silymarin count. It'll take care of you liquor processor. I also put my name on the Larry Hagman list for an upgrade
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2009, 08:52:10 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 05, 2009, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 05, 2009, 06:47:25 PM
Flax seed oil. Thoughts?
Good for the joints
This part I somehow didn't catch in my googling. This is probably the best selling point for me. My skinny bony ass wasn't built to take the beating I've laid on it from years of collision sports and high impact running. I can feel my knees starting to crack and my ankles have been shtein for years if this crap can help delay their total collapse I am sold.
I never had problems with my joints, just muscle soreness. I started taking supplements (Finigenx, Creatine) and eating more, my strength shot through the roof. My bench was close to 300, my joints started to kill me so one of the guys at my gym recommended flaxseed oil. It'll give you a sort of cushion feeling in your joints.
Regarding my liver: I read a study two years ago showing that one cup of coffee the day after drinking significantly reduces the damage to your liver and that two cups of coffee completely negated the damage. I'll see if I can dig it up but my recent dive back into coffee addiction is all I plan on doing for my liver. Also, now that Obama is making everything better I'm counting on stem cells to grow me a new liver on demand.
Regarding strength: I have basically stopped lifting-to-gain-mass. I did it for about a year, got big (for me), then got lazy and all of that mass turned into flab immediately and it has literally taken me 4 years to get back to my normal weight/shape. It's too much trouble to maintain that level of strength/size so my workout goals now are simpler. Stay thin. Maintain some definition. The stay thin part is what's brutal on my knees. Treadmills and running on asphalt and concrete is taking a toll.
running on treadmills did exactly what you said...crushed my knees over the years
power walk it. put the treadmill on 4.3 to 4.5 (which is very fast walking), maybe with a little incline and you'll see that you can still get about 2.5 miles in about 35-40 min and break a nice sweat...not to mention your knees feel 10,000 x's better. The only downfall is less calories burned
Quote from: rjs246 on May 06, 2009, 08:07:06 AM
Regarding my liver: I read an study two years ago showing that one cup of coffee the day after drinking significantly reduces the damage to your liver and that two cups of coffee completely negated the damage. I'll see if I can dig it up but my recent dive back into coffee addiction is all I plan on doing for my liver. Also, now that Obama is making everything better I'm counting on stem cells to grow me a new liver on demand.
Regarding strength: I have basically stopped lifting-to-gain-mass. I did it for about a year, got big (for me), then got lazy and all of that mass turned into flab immediately and it has literally taken me 4 years to get back to my normal weight/shape. It's too much trouble to maintain that level of strength/size so my workout goals now are simpler. Stay thin. Maintain some definition. The stay thin part is what's brutal on my knees. Treadmills and running on asphalt and concrete is taking a toll.
I like the eliptical, it's an odd motion but it doesn't kill my back. The rest of what you said happened to me, I put on a ton of mass then tried to get back down. I dropped around 15 lbs. but I just don't think I care enough to lose the rest. It would probably be easier if I didn't have a g/f and daughter but such is life.
I'd be interested in reading that coffee/alcohol study if you can dig it up. I figured I was farged but if that's the case I might make it to 40.
SD, if you are farged, I'm dead in a week.
Ok, so here it is, i'm a fat muthafarger. I'm 221lbs on a good day after a large bout of muddbutt, and i'm 5'11. I'm tired of being a fatass, and dont want to be embarrased with my man boobs. Whats the best bet for a lazy person like myself to shed some weight in a healthy manner. I generally avoid Sodas, i can cut out chips and snacks. I've reduced my sugar intake on coffee to under a teaspoon for a 32oz cup.
Is cardio the best bet to try and burn the fat? Pushups to get rid of manboobage? Situps?
Find cardio you like. I prefer the eliptical but switch it up every now and then. Some people walk and that does it for them. I hate to run. If you have to miss a workout take a 30 minute walk around the neighborhood with your dog. Diet is just as important, watch your carbs and most importantly watch what you snack on. I get bored and wind up eating random crap. Like lastnight while watching the Phils I wanted a snack. I had fresh Salsa Fresca so I ate the shtein out of it with a bunch of chips. Bad choice, I feel like shtein this morning and I probably ate 500 calories and crappy carbs late at night.
Phreak can probably help you more with the weight loss stuff but I'll take a stab at it.
Pushups and situps won't do shtein until you lose the weight. They'll do almost nothing to help you lose weight will just build/define muscle under the fat and, if anything, push the fat further from your frame making you look bigger.
Cardio and diet(gay) are the only things you can do to lose weight. It took me a long time to lose the 20 pounds I gained because I refused to reduce my alcohol intake or change my diet. I lost about 10-15 strictly through cardio work. Then over the last year and a half or so I started eating salads 5-6 times a week for lunch or dinner and substituted a lot of the meat I was eating with fish. I also basically eliminated hard liquor from my regular drinking rotation (though it finds its way in from time to time of course). Bacon and beer and burgers still make up a large portion of what I eat, but working some healthier stuff onto the menu has had a definite (if slow) effect. I'm back to my college weight now.
reese: Walking at 4.5 mph on the treadmill is what I do for a cool-down. I don't think there's any way that I could qualify that as a workout no matter how bad my knees feel.
sd: I've thought about using the eliptical but I haven't been able to consciously make the decision to look that gay while working out. Same problem I have with yoga. My back is a disaster and yoga would probably be fantastic for it, but I'll be damned if I can make myself sign up for something so chock full of crunchy hippy iceholes.
I was the same way, but after seeing some of the biggest motherfargers in the gym doing the eliptical it looked less gay so I said farg it.
Gaywad.
Alcohol/coffee/cirrhosis study. (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/45124.php)
Actually, it looks like there have been a couple such studies. Cha-ching.
Slightly more detail in this article... (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13281392/)
Important to note that these studies completely ignore any negative impacts that drinking 1-4 cups of coffee a day will have on you. This is strictly cirrhosis related.
With salads, best bet is oil and vinegar as a dressing right?
I might join the gym at work, but that means i need to go into work now.
Best is fat free dressings. Fat Free Italian isn't bad. Balsamic Vinaigrette is good if you can't do the fat free.
Dry or oil and vinegar is probably 'the best' but again, just working some roughage into your diet will have a positive effect over the long run. Diets make people miserable. Exercise makes people feel better. Focus on the exercise and make small obvious changes to your diet that won't make you want to kill yourself and you'll be fine.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 06, 2009, 08:51:38 AM
SD, if you are farged, I'm dead in a week.
Ok, so here it is, i'm a fat muthafarger. I'm 221lbs on a good day after a large bout of muddbutt, and i'm 5'11. I'm tired of being a fatass, and dont want to be embarrased with my man boobs. Whats the best bet for a lazy person like myself to shed some weight in a healthy manner. I generally avoid Sodas, i can cut out chips and snacks. I've reduced my sugar intake on coffee to under a teaspoon for a 32oz cup.
Is cardio the best bet to try and burn the fat? Pushups to get rid of manboobage? Situps?
How quickly do you want to drop the weight? Do you have access to a gym? If you do, you really need to get on a weight routine. I've got a great one that focuses on higher reps and muscle conditioning that would really help; if you want it, let me know. Keep in mind that lifting weights burns calories all day and night, and that cardio only burns while you're doing it and a little after. And if you don't do any strength training, the cardio alone might eat into some muscle for weight loss, making you skinny fat. All of that said, you still need to do cardio. I've been on a routine where I lift during the day, four days a week and run at night six days a week. Breaking up the lifting and cardio can help for a variety of reasons-- but if you can't do it, then lift first, then run.
More importantly, if you want to drop the weight, you need to change the way you eat. You need to eat less overall, and spread your calories over the course of the day. I get results not eating after 8 pm, but I think that depends on your body. You need to stick to lean meats, fresh vegetables and whole grains. More than anything, steer clear of sugar and refined grains. You'll probably want to go higher on the proteins, particularly if you lift. As far as the overall calories go, there are calculators on the web that could help you.
Actually, there's a lot of good information on the forums at www.johnstonefitness.com.
Quotereese: Walking at 4.5 mph on the treadmill is what I do for a cool-down. I don't think there's any way that I could qualify that as a workout no matter how bad my knees feel.
what? dude..unless your 6'3 and have a stride like a gazelle 4.5 is not your cool down. stop it
Quote from: Zanshin on May 06, 2009, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 06, 2009, 08:51:38 AM
SD, if you are farged, I'm dead in a week.
Ok, so here it is, i'm a fat muthafarger. I'm 221lbs on a good day after a large bout of muddbutt, and i'm 5'11. I'm tired of being a fatass, and dont want to be embarrased with my man boobs. Whats the best bet for a lazy person like myself to shed some weight in a healthy manner. I generally avoid Sodas, i can cut out chips and snacks. I've reduced my sugar intake on coffee to under a teaspoon for a 32oz cup.
Is cardio the best bet to try and burn the fat? Pushups to get rid of manboobage? Situps?
How quickly do you want to drop the weight? Do you have access to a gym? If you do, you really need to get on a weight routine. I've got a great one that focuses on higher reps and muscle conditioning that would really help; if you want it, let me know. Keep in mind that lifting weights burns calories all day and night, and that cardio only burns while you're doing it and a little after. And if you don't do any strength training, the cardio alone might eat into some muscle for weight loss, making you skinny fat. All of that said, you still need to do cardio. I've been on a routine where I lift during the day, four days a week and run at night six days a week. Breaking up the lifting and cardio can help for a variety of reasons-- but if you can't do it, then lift first, then run.
More importantly, if you want to drop the weight, you need to change the way you eat. You need to eat less overall, and spread your calories over the course of the day. I get results not eating after 8 pm, but I think that depends on your body. You need to stick to lean meats, fresh vegetables and whole grains. More than anything, steer clear of sugar and refined grains. You'll probably want to go higher on the proteins, particularly if you lift. As far as the overall calories go, there are calculators on the web that could help you.
Actually, there's a lot of good information on the forums at www.johnstonefitness.com.
coming from someone with an ex phys degree....this is about as clear cut as youre gonna get.
Quote from: reese125 on May 06, 2009, 09:30:27 AM
Quotereese: Walking at 4.5 mph on the treadmill is what I do for a cool-down. I don't think there's any way that I could qualify that as a workout no matter how bad my knees feel.
what? dude..unless your 6'3 and have a stride like a gazelle 4.5 is not your cool down. stop it
I'm definitely not kidding. My cool down goes 4.6 (1 minute), 4.5 (2 minutes), 4.4 (2 minutes), 4.3 (1 minute).
any chance you have some Kenyan in you?
Yeah. His name is Steve.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 06, 2009, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 06, 2009, 08:51:38 AM
SD, if you are farged, I'm dead in a week.
Ok, so here it is, i'm a fat muthafarger. I'm 221lbs on a good day after a large bout of muddbutt, and i'm 5'11. I'm tired of being a fatass, and dont want to be embarrased with my man boobs. Whats the best bet for a lazy person like myself to shed some weight in a healthy manner. I generally avoid Sodas, i can cut out chips and snacks. I've reduced my sugar intake on coffee to under a teaspoon for a 32oz cup.
Is cardio the best bet to try and burn the fat? Pushups to get rid of manboobage? Situps?
How quickly do you want to drop the weight? Do you have access to a gym? If you do, you really need to get on a weight routine. I've got a great one that focuses on higher reps and muscle conditioning that would really help; if you want it, let me know. Keep in mind that lifting weights burns calories all day and night, and that cardio only burns while you're doing it and a little after. And if you don't do any strength training, the cardio alone might eat into some muscle for weight loss, making you skinny fat. All of that said, you still need to do cardio. I've been on a routine where I lift during the day, four days a week and run at night six days a week. Breaking up the lifting and cardio can help for a variety of reasons-- but if you can't do it, then lift first, then run.
More importantly, if you want to drop the weight, you need to change the way you eat. You need to eat less overall, and spread your calories over the course of the day. I get results not eating after 8 pm, but I think that depends on your body. You need to stick to lean meats, fresh vegetables and whole grains. More than anything, steer clear of sugar and refined grains. You'll probably want to go higher on the proteins, particularly if you lift. As far as the overall calories go, there are calculators on the web that could help you.
Actually, there's a lot of good information on the forums at www.johnstonefitness.com.
Hahaha, this is basically the opposite of everything I did to lose weight. Awesome.
(Well, not quite the opposite. I have always spread out my eating and done low-weight lifting along with my cardio shtein. But I definitely focused on the cardio and much less on lifting/diet. farg dieting. Women diet.)
I don't see why 4.5 and a gradually decrease is surprising to reese. 4.5 is about the point where walking is fast paced and bumping it up .5 turns it into a run. When I ran on the treadmill on the ship that's exactly what I would do, ony I'd decrease at a 1 minute interval from 4.5, to 4.0, to 3.5 etc.
Quote from: reese125 on May 06, 2009, 09:35:55 AM
any chance you have some Kenyan in you?
Did the kenyans ever invade Sicily?
But you never REALLY had a weight problem, right? I mean dropping a couple of pounds and needing to drop 50 are different things. If you take a look at how much the average cardio workout burns in a session, it's not enough to cover someone who needs to lose serious weight and isn't changing their eating habits. If a fatass needs to drop weight, he or she needs to start in the kitchen and re-evaluate what got them there. Exercise is important, whether it's weights or cardio or both-- but fat people tend to have slower metabolisms, and lifting is something that can positively affect that over the entire day, as opposed to just cardio. It burns calories to repair the muscle you've damaged while lifting, and it takes more calories to maintain the muscle you've built. But, hey, my short diet pamphlet is to eat less and move more-- anything after that is just customization.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 06, 2009, 09:42:10 AM
But you never REALLY had a weight problem, right? I mean dropping a couple of pounds and needing to drop 50 are different things.
Very valid point. I was dropping weight to look better, not because I was even close to any sort of health risk.
Quote from: Zanshin on May 06, 2009, 09:28:49 AM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 06, 2009, 08:51:38 AM
SD, if you are farged, I'm dead in a week.
Ok, so here it is, i'm a fat muthafarger. I'm 221lbs on a good day after a large bout of muddbutt, and i'm 5'11. I'm tired of being a fatass, and dont want to be embarrased with my man boobs. Whats the best bet for a lazy person like myself to shed some weight in a healthy manner. I generally avoid Sodas, i can cut out chips and snacks. I've reduced my sugar intake on coffee to under a teaspoon for a 32oz cup.
Is cardio the best bet to try and burn the fat? Pushups to get rid of manboobage? Situps?
How quickly do you want to drop the weight? Do you have access to a gym? If you do, you really need to get on a weight routine. I've got a great one that focuses on higher reps and muscle conditioning that would really help; if you want it, let me know. Keep in mind that lifting weights burns calories all day and night, and that cardio only burns while you're doing it and a little after. And if you don't do any strength training, the cardio alone might eat into some muscle for weight loss, making you skinny fat. All of that said, you still need to do cardio. I've been on a routine where I lift during the day, four days a week and run at night six days a week. Breaking up the lifting and cardio can help for a variety of reasons-- but if you can't do it, then lift first, then run.
More importantly, if you want to drop the weight, you need to change the way you eat. You need to eat less overall, and spread your calories over the course of the day. I get results not eating after 8 pm, but I think that depends on your body. You need to stick to lean meats, fresh vegetables and whole grains. More than anything, steer clear of sugar and refined grains. You'll probably want to go higher on the proteins, particularly if you lift. As far as the overall calories go, there are calculators on the web that could help you.
Actually, there's a lot of good information on the forums at www.johnstonefitness.com.
My work has a gym, and its like 10bucks a month. I'm in the office roughly 2 days a week, but that might work if i do some walking/running outside of work. I'd like to lose weight asap, in the past when i've stopped drinking for a week i can generally lose about 10lbs of weight, carbs and water weight i guess. Im not sure how much i'm going to be able to lift, i did some lifting for about a year and a half a couple years ago, and it was a bitch on my shoulder then. The rainy weather makes my shoulder feel like its gonna fall out again now. My main focus is to lose as much fatty weight as i can, i just turned 28 Sunday, and i want to make sure i'm not a complete fatass as i get older.
I need to also stop snacking as SD said, i'm a nighthawk, and if we eat around 7pm i'm starving by 12am and will usually eat some Craisins or trailmix.
I'll shoot you a PM.
it must suck for all of you to have to put all that time and energy into shaping your bodies. because unlike yous guys, i was practically chiseled from stone.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on May 06, 2009, 09:27:57 AM
Best is fat free dressings. Fat Free Italian isn't bad. Balsamic Vinaigrette is good if you can't do the fat free.
This is a great one with low calories and fat:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2B8d2sJQgL._SS500_.jpg)
For fat-free, I usually do Catalina or Thousand Island because there's almost no difference from the regular. Fat-free ranch tastes like mayo, and fat-free Italian has no flavor...
I usually eat my salad dry. I like the crunch, and none of the dressings I've tried are really worth the calories. And the fat-free labels pretty much read like a science experiment.
The very idea of calorie watching makes me want to snort a milkshake through a straw and shotgun a box of oreos.
Gotta do what you gotta do. I'm not big on actually counting calories, but it's a good idea to have a legitimate sense of what you're ingesting on a daily basis. The calories matter whether people want to count them or not. And if someone has a genetic predisposition to being heavy, he or she might want to take stock of how that happened. But, yeah, if you're lucky enough to avoid watching...that's more fun. Being fat, though...not that much fun.
I'm addicted to calorie counting now. Ever since I was on my strict ass diet and lost all the weight, I have used Fitday's calorie tracker. I add the foods I eat from their labels and count everything I toss down my gullet. I get pissed when I go out to eat and get home and see the restaurant doesn't have a nutritional chart. I hate it, but if I don't do it I feel like a slob.
SB,
My program was simple....my daily caloric intake was 1500-1800 and I worked out 6 days a week. Obviously one off day and one 'cheat' day with eating. That cheat would consist of maybe a good ribeye, baked potato and rice for dinner and a couple beers.
The workout was simple too. I did not want to get all crazy with some routine, so I kept it to 40mins a day on the eliptical for my cardio. Then I wold do 150 crunches, and alternate upper body and lower body strength every other day.
Upper body was bench press, incline press, decline press, shrugs, power clean and cable work (biceps, triceps, seated row).
Lower body was squats (most important one you can do, IMO), calf raises, leg press and quad work.
That "program" helped me drop about 125lbs from March 2007 until August 2007.
I supplemented it with one protein shake (GNC's crap [I like the orange cream and chocolate caramel] mixed with one cup of 1% milk), fish oil, green tea pills and the now pulled Hydroxycut Hardcore.
I've maintained my weight since August of 2007 for the most part and am now on my kick to lose the final 25 pounds that I want to get off. I'm taking it slower and not as strict, but its working.
More meat, less carbs.
Dude, phreak lost 125 pounds in 5 months? What the farg. That's some tv commercial shtein.
Pretty much. I worked out angry too. Pissed for letting myself get to be a fatass. Like I tell anyone who asks, you can't force anyone into doing it. Everyone needs their "wow" moment and mine came on March 3rd 2007. I woke up, looked in the mirror and went and joined Planet Fitness a half hour later. It shocked me, but it was fun seeing the work pay off on the scale.
wow...40 min routine and no bariatric surgery?
much props kid
impressive Phreak. Thanks man.
Quote from: reese125 on May 06, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
wow...40 min routine and no bariatric surgery?
much props kid
Thanks, reese.
Well, it was 40 mins of cardio and 40 mins of weights and 10 mins of crunches. But I refused to even consider any surgery. I was in shape in high school, played sports and all that..so I knew I could do the exercise. Plus I felt I would appreciate it more if I did it the hard way.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on May 06, 2009, 05:10:21 PM
impressive Phreak. Thanks man.
Thanks man; you're welcome...let me know f you have any questions dude.
I ran 3.3 miles with the dog this morning, which is about a mile and a half further than my usual daily run.
There isn't enough flax seed oil in the world to make my knees feel better.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 13, 2009, 10:41:31 AM
I ran 3.3 miles with the dog this morning, which is about a mile and a half further than my usual daily run.
There isn't enough flax seed oil in the world to make my knees feel better.
try glucosamine.
I was thinking of trying Miller Lite. And possibly some Jack Daniels.
and possibly hardening the farg up
I'll take that under advisement, you cardiovascular machine you.
Whoa mussa, this isn't the zombie thread. Try thinking reality here
farg all of you for eating better, running farther, and most likely living longer than I will.
I've grown bored with my apartment's gym. It worked well for awhile, but they don't have too much in the weight department. All they have is a few machines and dumb bells. I'm going to go join the Y...its right down the street and obviously has everything.
I think I'm going to try one of those spinning classes...they have one Monday and Wednesday nights and would help eliminate the boredom of the eliptical machine 6 days a week for cardio.
unless you're in an actual luxury apartment building, that's about as good as you'll get with most apartment community gyms. good for basic fitness and cardio but crap if you want a solid, total body workout.
spin class is going to farg you up royaly. i suggest smoking some rock before class.
I'm looking forward to it...one of my boys at work is doing one and he said its kickin his ass. I'm tired of farging around with these last few pounds and I want them gone. I wanna be 220-225 and be done with it.
Started back at the gym Monday. I do 30 minutes of cardio and 15-20 minutes of weights at a fast pace. Good news is my strength has held up even though I haven't lifted much in the last 2 years. My goal is to get back to 200 lbs. by opening day of the NFL. Not even gonna bother weighing myself but I'm guessing I have around 30 lbs. to lose.
Jay, if you don't mind could you post your workout routine and diet. I have a decent one in place but I'm interested to see how you went about it.
And fyi I'm posting this message as a motivator.
Fat boy on a diet, gonna try it.
No problem...I'll hit it up later today after we get back from the movies.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 13, 2009, 10:41:31 AM
I ran 3.3 miles with the dog this morning, which is about a mile and a half further than my usual daily run.
There isn't enough flax seed oil in the world to make my knees feel better.
FWIW, I've had knee problems for over a year now, but they are much better after seeing an acupuncturist (shoulder too). I'm just able to start doing lower body work outs for the first time in months.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2009, 12:45:33 PM
No problem...I'll hit it up later today after we get back from the movies.
liar
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 14, 2009, 12:45:33 PM
No problem...I'll hit it up later today after we get back from the movies.
Here's the plan I'm following (http://www.zonediet.com/)
It's basically lean meats, veggies, and fruits. Little to no carbs.
Did 30 minutes of cardio today followed by 15 minutes of arms. Feelin great. Pants even feel a little looser, but that may be because I wore them to the Phils game yesterday
You're all fat and getting older by the minute. Time to accept it and stop kidding yourselves.
word up
Age can suck my hairy shteinshoot.
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and keep fighting the good fight.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 14, 2009, 11:39:30 AM
Started back at the gym Monday. I do 30 minutes of cardio and 15-20 minutes of weights at a fast pace. Good news is my strength has held up even though I haven't lifted much in the last 2 years. My goal is to get back to 200 lbs. by opening day of the NFL. Not even gonna bother weighing myself but I'm guessing I have around 30 lbs. to lose.
Same here. Im trying to drop 15 lbs by the end of summer. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday have been doing an hour+ of cardio. I travel thursday, so its hard to get anything in. Friday, saturday, sunday is a combination of outdoor activities and indoor cardio. This Sunday, for example, I took a hike (http://www.localhikes.com/Hikes/bear_peak_S_2082.asp) before I got picked up for my flight.
Unfortunatly, I dont have a gym in my condo, and the hotel gym has nothing for weights. So for now, Im more focused on cardio with some pushups and whatever strength training I can do in my room.
Quote from: Zanshin on June 15, 2009, 07:00:35 PM
Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and keep fighting the good fight.
Pick me up a cheesesteak and a six pack of Guinness on the way back from Pilates then.
Just one cheesesteak?
As far as beer goes, Guinness is actually one of the better dietary choices.
Less calories than skim milk. No carbonation. Delicious.
Quote from: paco on June 15, 2009, 07:04:42 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 14, 2009, 11:39:30 AM
Started back at the gym Monday. I do 30 minutes of cardio and 15-20 minutes of weights at a fast pace. Good news is my strength has held up even though I haven't lifted much in the last 2 years. My goal is to get back to 200 lbs. by opening day of the NFL. Not even gonna bother weighing myself but I'm guessing I have around 30 lbs. to lose.
Same here. Im trying to drop 15 lbs by the end of summer. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday have been doing an hour+ of cardio. I travel thursday, so its hard to get anything in. Friday, saturday, sunday is a combination of outdoor activities and indoor cardio. This Sunday, for example, I took a hike (http://www.localhikes.com/Hikes/bear_peak_S_2082.asp) before I got picked up for my flight.
Unfortunatly, I dont have a gym in my condo, and the hotel gym has nothing for weights. So for now, Im more focused on cardio with some pushups and whatever strength training I can do in my room.
I cut my cardio down to 25 minutes from 30 and added a fast paced weight routine in high reps. I'm getting a lot better results than just straight cardio, which gets boring as all hell. Diet I'm on isn't bad so far, made a great stir fry for dinner. Tomorrow I won't be able to make the gym, so I plan on walking for 30 minutes and doing a bunch of pushups. If you remember my uncle from camp I'm following his program. Don't plan on breaking at all until camp, and even then it'll be a modification.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 15, 2009, 08:59:19 PM
I cut my cardio down to 25 minutes from 30 and added a fast paced weight routine in high reps. I'm getting a lot better results than just straight cardio, which gets boring as all hell. Diet I'm on isn't bad so far, made a great stir fry for dinner. Tomorrow I won't be able to make the gym, so I plan on walking for 30 minutes and doing a bunch of pushups. If you remember my uncle from camp I'm following his program. Don't plan on breaking at all until camp, and even then it'll be a modification.
If you are following his program, does that mean you are going to get guns as big as my quads?
What do you think of those Bowflex SelectTech weights? I would like to have some weights in my place, but I live in a 900 sqft loft, so space is an issue.
I used them before, weights are weights. I'd say go for it. I quit doing a body part a day until exhaustion, I mix things up a bit and do different body parts daily in high reps.
He's into crossfit, I'd like to get into it but I don't feel like driving 30-45 minutes to his gym when I have mine literally 5 minutes down the road. He's had those guns since we were in our early teens, nothing can supplement great genetics.
I've mixed up my routine quite a bit and nothing seems to work better for me that what I originally did. I have gotten bored with the cardio and there are some days that I dread stepping on the elliptical but since I hate the treadmill, I climb aboard.
The routine I've gone back to is this:
6 days a week of 35 minutes on the elliptical
150 crunches per day
Alternating days of upper body and lower body weights
Upper routine:
3 sets (12, 10, 10) regular bench
3 sets (12, 10, 10) incline bench
3 sets (12, 10, 10) dead lift
3 sets cable crosses (12, 10, 10)
3 sets sitting rows (12, 10, 10)
3 sets on each arm of overhead cable pull downs (like a pitcher throwing the ball)
Lower routine:
3 sets squats
3 sets leg press
200 calf raises
3 sets lunges
It's pretty simple because that is how I started out and it worked, so I stayed with it for the most part.
My diet isn't as strict this time (I drink more diet sodas than the one per week I allowed myself before) but I still follow the 1500-1900 calories per day with one "cheat day" per week.
I will also stray on adding in something like an ice cream cone or candy, but I always fit it into my caloric intake for the day.
I really want to lose this final 30lbs and hit 225...
If you're at a standstill, you might want to think about a HIIT routine for your cardio to shake things up a little.
If I see one more P90X infotainment piece I might throw a brick through my television.
On the other hand, anyone know if that shtein works?
p90X workouts turn you into a douche, ive seen it first hand.
I really want to become a heroin junkie to lose weight
Well that much I already knew.
I've heard only good things about p90x, but I haven't tried it. If you don't have access to a gym, I think it would be one of the better home options out there, based on what I've read. I know Akers tried it last year and loved it, so there's a chance it could turn you into a mediocre kicker. Be warned.
A mediocre kicker who cries after week-4 victories over non-conference opponents? Pass.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 15, 2009, 11:17:36 PM
My diet isn't as strict this time (I drink more diet sodas than the one per week I allowed myself before) but I still follow the 1500-1900 calories per day with one "cheat day" per week.
I will also stray on adding in something like an ice cream cone or candy, but I always fit it into my caloric intake for the day.
I really want to lose this final 30lbs and hit 225...
I basically cut out all forms of bread, rice, pasta etc. My diet revolves around lean meats, veggies, and fruits. I use balsamic vinaggrette in my salads and olive oil as my cooking oil. One of my biggest challenges is I have a 115 lbs. girlfriend who buys and eats tons of junk food. She never eats big portions so that's how she stays so thin. Took a 2 mile walk in the park with my daughter this morning and dropped every 1/4 mile to do some pushups. My tri's are still sore from yesterdays workout so the first few sets were tough.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 16, 2009, 12:11:25 PM
I basically cut out all forms of bread, rice, pasta etc. My diet revolves around lean meats, veggies, and fruits. I use balsamic vinaggrette in my salads and olive oil as my cooking oil. One of my biggest challenges is I have a 115 lbs. girlfriend who buys and eats tons of junk food. She never eats big portions so that's how she stays so thin. Took a 2 mile walk in the park with my daughter this morning and dropped every 1/4 mile to do some pushups. My tri's are still sore from yesterdays workout so the first few sets were tough.
SD are you working out at any gyms? I just joined Planet Fitness up by Kohl's but haven't been there yet and like it better if I know someone there.
I'm rehabbing from ACL surgery and my left leg looks like it belongs to an 80-yr old man.
i've lost 6 pounds in a week and a half by doing nothing but drinking beer and snorting aderall.
with an occasional slice of late night pizza.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 16, 2009, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 16, 2009, 12:11:25 PM
I basically cut out all forms of bread, rice, pasta etc. My diet revolves around lean meats, veggies, and fruits. I use balsamic vinaggrette in my salads and olive oil as my cooking oil. One of my biggest challenges is I have a 115 lbs. girlfriend who buys and eats tons of junk food. She never eats big portions so that's how she stays so thin. Took a 2 mile walk in the park with my daughter this morning and dropped every 1/4 mile to do some pushups. My tri's are still sore from yesterdays workout so the first few sets were tough.
SD are you working out at any gyms? I just joined Planet Fitness up by Kohl's but haven't been there yet and like it better if I know someone there.
I'm rehabbing from ACL surgery and my left leg looks like it belongs to an 80-yr old man.
I go to Body Dynamics on County Line road. If you go down Davisville road and go left it's about 1/4 mile to your right. $30 a month and it's always empty. Plenty of weights, equipment, etc.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 16, 2009, 01:34:31 PMmy left leg looks like it belongs to an 80-yr old man.
Too easy.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 16, 2009, 01:34:31 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on June 16, 2009, 12:11:25 PM
I basically cut out all forms of bread, rice, pasta etc. My diet revolves around lean meats, veggies, and fruits. I use balsamic vinaggrette in my salads and olive oil as my cooking oil. One of my biggest challenges is I have a 115 lbs. girlfriend who buys and eats tons of junk food. She never eats big portions so that's how she stays so thin. Took a 2 mile walk in the park with my daughter this morning and dropped every 1/4 mile to do some pushups. My tri's are still sore from yesterdays workout so the first few sets were tough.
SD are you working out at any gyms? I just joined Planet Fitness up by Kohl's but haven't been there yet and like it better if I know someone there.
I'm rehabbing from ACL surgery and my left leg looks like it belongs to an 80-yr old man.
I was using Planet Fitness in Malvern and liked it a lot especially since it was 20 bucks a month and had no contract, so when I cancelled when I moved I didn't owe anything.
SD,
I limit myself to 200g of carbs or less per day. I will eat brown rice, granola, plain oatmeal and wheat bread...that's about it...and occasionally some whole wheat pasta on cheat days
Zan,
I tried the HIIT once and it whupped my ass. I should probably get after it again...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 16, 2009, 04:05:28 PM
SD,
I limit myself to 200g of carbs or less per day. I will eat brown rice, granola, plain oatmeal and wheat bread...that's about it...and occasionally some whole wheat pasta on cheat days
I'm switching it up to that tomorrow morning. I've been hungry and lightheaded all day, and no amount of veggies is going to fill me up. I know with low carb/low glycemic diets there's a transition but if I work out enough I feel it will balance out.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 16, 2009, 01:38:44 PM
i've lost 6 pounds in a week and a half by doing nothing but drinking beer and snorting aderall.
with an occasional slice of late night pizza.
pizza late at night is going to farg up your regimen. unless you don't go to bed until noon.
BTW, has anybody found that it is harder to put on muscle when on a low carb diet? That seemed to be the case for me.
Traditionally, you need some pre and post-workout carbs to get the best muscle-building results. That said, I've found that carbs at night are like death for me. Put on weight instantly. For me, anyway, it's more about the right carbs, and not "low" carbs. It's more about cutting out the crap. I'm probably around 40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fats right now. Just got down to 10% body fat, which I'm happy about. No matter what I grade out at, though, I always feel like I need to drop ten pounds...which is a pain in the ass. I'm fairly sure being Irish isn't really helping there ;-). My wife is Italian and she gets absolutely shredded just by looking at weights. Bitch.
Quote from: Zanshin on June 17, 2009, 08:21:10 AM
Traditionally, you need some pre and post-workout carbs to get the best muscle-building results. That said, I've found that carbs at night are like death for me. Put on weight instantly. For me, anyway, it's more about the right carbs, and not "low" carbs. It's more about cutting out the crap. I'm probably around 40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fats right now. Just got down to 10% body fat, which I'm happy about. No matter what I grade out at, though, I always feel like I need to drop ten pounds...which is a pain in the ass. I'm fairly sure being Irish isn't really helping there ;-). My wife is Italian and she gets absolutely shredded just by looking at weights. Bitch.
You sound like me except you're already in decent shape. Cutting the crap for me is the biggest step. The g/f took notice of my committment level of losing weight and voluntarily offered to stop buying junk food.
I did 40-50 pushups total yesterday in intervals and my entire upper body is sore this morning.
I usually go in cycles. I'm excellent at losing weight and gaining weight, but I need to work on my maintenance skills. I've been working out twice a day for the last couple of months (weights during the day and running at night) and that's made a big difference, because it's been solid fat loss, with muscle gain, which is always the trick. Too many times people lose the weight and get that sort of skinny fat look, because the muscle falls away with the fat. But I need to be really clean about it-- some people can eat some crap and get results...but my body apparently doesn't work that way. Meh. Gotta do what you gotta do.
I'm pretty sure that if I stopped drinking alcohol soda and coffee I'd lose 10 pounds in under a month. And I'm already farging skinny. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but I was just thinking about it this morning. I take in so many extra calories from alcohol that if I cut that shtein out I'd look like Christian Bale in The Machinist.
Quote from: Zanshin on June 17, 2009, 08:21:10 AM
Traditionally, you need some pre and post-workout carbs to get the best muscle-building results. That said, I've found that carbs at night are like death for me. Put on weight instantly. For me, anyway, it's more about the right carbs, and not "low" carbs. It's more about cutting out the crap. I'm probably around 40% protein, 30% carbs, 30% fats right now. Just got down to 10% body fat, which I'm happy about. No matter what I grade out at, though, I always feel like I need to drop ten pounds...which is a pain in the ass. I'm fairly sure being Irish isn't really helping there ;-). My wife is Italian and she gets absolutely shredded just by looking at weights. Bitch.
Yes, this makes sense to me. I found I actually tended to lose some muscle mass with very low carbs, even with heavy lifting. I still can't seem to lose much fat, but I only do cardio 2 or 3 times a week.
On the bright side, cutting out most sugar/junk and getting acupuncture and chiropractic, it looks like I've gotten rid of my shoulder and knee bursitis. I feel like for the first time in 5 years (since I blew out my shoulder) I have my body back. Played volleyball on hard court today and had no problems diving or smashing the ball. This evening I might even play on the beach.
I gave up diet soda a few months ago, and I think that's made a difference. I've done a number of other things to feel better, but I think that was a biggie. I was drinking way too much of that crap. I've read that too much of those chemicals contribute to joint pain and memory loss.
The stuff was like an addiction, though. Wanted to give it up for a long time, but could never do it for more than a couple of days. Now, I have no idea what the big deal was and have no desire for the stuff. Weird.
I think it's the same thing with McDonalds. Every time I ate something from there my heart rate went up by about 20, it didn't seem to matter if it was a shake or burger. I swear they put some kid of addictive shtein in it, maybe it's the same with diet soda.
Working out a part of your body that already has muscle soreness is retarded. If anything you'll lose muscle, not gain it
I don't know who said that I just read 5 pages but I thought I'd throw that out there.
Quote from: jihadist monk on June 17, 2009, 04:03:59 PM
Working out a part of your body that already has muscle soreness is retarded. If anything you'll lose muscle, not gain it
true, but not true.
it is retarded and you do lose strength, but you will quickly gain mucsle as well.
if you work your upper body with pull ups, push ups, bench press, etc you will notice a decline in the amount of reps you can do because you're breaking your muscles down. but eventually you will reach a point where the muscle will begin building back up and it will build back up fast and strong.
it happened to me, and everyone else in my platoon, when i went through bootcamp. excessive amounts of pushups, pull ups, etc etc. when i got there i was doing about 13 dead hang pullups. 2 weeks later i could only do maybe 7 max. a few weeks after that i was up to 20.
same thing was true with running. after a few weeks of bootcamp, everyone's run time got slower and slower. then after another couple of weeks, we were all running faster than ever.
of course, i wouldn't really recommend anyone to try and model their training regimen after bootcamp techniques but if you really want to put yourself through hell and feel some pain and have a hard time lifting your arms above your head, then by all means, feel free.
Do any non-athlete/non-day-laborer adults care about strength? I would sacrifice all strength to look great without a shirt on. Of course currently I neither look great without a shirt nor possess any strength, but I just can't imagine caring how much weight I can toss around now that I'm not playing a sport.
Agree with all of that but I don't think I explained what I meant well enough. I meant if you have muscle soreness from a previous days workout and work it out again all you are doing is interrupting the recovery period. There's really nothing to gain from it.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 17, 2009, 06:29:44 PM
Do any non-athlete/non-day-laborer adults care about strength? I would sacrifice all strength to look great without a shirt on. Of course currently I neither look great without a shirt nor possess any strength, but I just can't imagine caring how much weight I can toss around now that I'm not playing a sport.
Unless you move refrigerators for a living, it doesn't matter.
Quote from: Zanshin on June 17, 2009, 03:15:36 PM
I gave up diet soda a few months ago, and I think that's made a difference. I've done a number of other things to feel better, but I think that was a biggie. I was drinking way too much of that crap. I've read that too much of those chemicals contribute to joint pain and memory loss.
The stuff was like an addiction, though. Wanted to give it up for a long time, but could never do it for more than a couple of days. Now, I have no idea what the big deal was and have no desire for the stuff. Weird.
I did that during my big loss a couple years ago. I drink two-three diet cokes a day now. I'm going to drop them for awhile again though. I already drink a shteinload of water, so I will keep that up and toss in some crystal light flavor packs here and there to keep me sane.
this thread is so womanish it's revolting
Nothing more manly than trying to beat the hell out of your genetic proclivities.
Quote from: jihadist monk on June 17, 2009, 06:34:58 PM
Agree with all of that but I don't think I explained what I meant well enough. I meant if you have muscle soreness from a previous days workout and work it out again all you are doing is interrupting the recovery period. There's really nothing to gain from it.
If you work out your muscles to the point of exhaustion then you're right, slight muscle soreness you should work through. The whole 'Pumping Iron' way of lifting till you can't move mentality is slowly going away.
Quote from: Diomedes on June 17, 2009, 09:51:49 PM
this thread is so womanish it's revolting
So I shouldn't tell you that when I want a sweet snack, I reach for banana chips?
Anybody take any supplements or anything like that?
I'm up to two whey protein drinks ( one before workout one sometime after) and one sugar free red bull before. Between the two whey drinks there is 90 grams of protein (23 grams per cup and I put two cups in each drink) which seems pretty massive so I'm hoping to start seeing some major gains. I've been really running through the wall with my new routine.
I don't have much of a dietary plan outside of the whey though. I'm only 18 though and I'm only trying to put on muscle not lose any fat so I'm not sure if it's necessary.
General rule of thumb when trying to gain mass is 1.5 grams of protein per body pound. You want most of your protein to come from meats like fish, chicken, beef etc. Supplements like whey are great for post workout because they absorb fast into the muscle...your muscles have an hour or so window where they take in extra protein because the muscle rushes to recover. With diets find one one that works for you and stick to it. Also space your protein intake 2-3 hours apart, otherwise your body transforms it into fat.
I could never get into the supplement thing. I tried a few things over the course of time, but they were expensive and didn't seem to make much of a difference. These days, I stick with a "sport" mulitvitamin. The "sport" part adds a little green tea, glutamine and chromium. And I take an Omega 3. Every once and again, I'll use a little protein powder for something.
Some people swear by other stuff, but it seems like a bunch of over-marketed crap to me.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input.
Eat right, (for the most part) do 1/2 hour of cardio 4 days a week, and light free weights three days a week and your body will be transformed in three months.
I yo-yo between 190-215 pounds but I've definitely been 215-220 for the better part of a year now and it sucks. I just don't have the time or motivation to get going again. It happens when you hit your 40's guys. We can't all be Jack Lalanne.
I really despise cardio and since I'm 5'10 140 Im gonna avoid it as long as I can. I'm up to 5 days of heavy (for me) lifting though a week.
5'10 140 lbs...18 yrs old? jesus christ
has anybody told you that you have nothing to worry about? I just did.
I'm not worried I'd just prefer to put on muscle.
yeah, you gotta work to keep a girlish figure
How does that even fit, honestly.
Quote from: jihadist monk on June 19, 2009, 04:39:52 PM
I really despise cardio and since I'm 5'10 140 Im gonna avoid it as long as I can. I'm up to 5 days of heavy (for me) lifting though a week.
At 18 you're still growing, and at that height and age I'd literally be eating everything in sight. You have a ton of room to grow and regardless of how much weights you do you need to eat, eat, eat. I'd also encourage you to work the shtein out of your legs, that'll pack on muscle fast. Squats, hack squats, leg press etc.
Quote from: phattymatty on June 16, 2009, 01:38:44 PM
i've lost 6 pounds in a week and a half by doing nothing but drinking beer and snorting aderall.
with an occasional slice of late night pizza.
phattymatty sighting at Sasquatch. watch through the end to see how dude gets all the Hoyda he could ever want
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/nU7dxkIz1Vs
Man, thats some funny chit.
whoa ho......it's getting a little........it's getting' a little dirty...
Started sit ups and crunches again. By far my least favorite workout. I usually like a little muscle soreness but ab pain is just god awful. I can't even poop without soreness.
The last time I was 140 pounds, I was in 9th grade.
What SD said, work out your legs. At 18 years old, doing squats will add an instant 10 pounds....maybe more. Not to mention that squatting releases growth hormones.
Quote from: Zanshin on June 17, 2009, 01:53:09 PM
I usually go in cycles. I'm excellent at losing weight and gaining weight, but I need to work on my maintenance skills. I've been working out twice a day for the last couple of months (weights during the day and running at night) and that's made a big difference, because it's been solid fat loss, with muscle gain, which is always the trick. Too many times people lose the weight and get that sort of skinny fat look, because the muscle falls away with the fat. But I need to be really clean about it-- some people can eat some crap and get results...but my body apparently doesn't work that way. Meh. Gotta do what you gotta do.
This is exactly how I am and I don't get it. My metabolism is ridiculously fast. I'm 6 feet tall and last August I was like 160 pounds. Since then, I've fluctuated from anywhere between 150ish and 170. I'm 165 now. I started working out last fall but didn't really understand all the best ways to gain mass, muscle, all that shtein. I started working out with a friend who is a freak about all that and now I'm finally showing consistent progress instead of randomly losing 5-10 pounds. By the end of summer I'm hoping to be around 175 and actually keep it on. I look skinny but nowhere near unhealthy since I have little fat and some muscle. It's really not that big of a deal to me, but in the past on those days where I'd weigh myself and the scale says like 152 pounds I'd just think "are you farging serious?"
Dillen...where the hell ya been, man?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2009, 10:18:14 PM
Dillen...where the hell ya been, man?
Quote from: Dillen on June 28, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
I'm 6 feet tall and last August I was like 160 pounds.
he was stuck in the wind.
Anybody have or knows an ab workout routine that works?
I'm making progress I'm up to 150, but I'm not seeing any progress with the abs...
try sit ups, woman
Abs are made in the kitchen, I hear.
Take a core-strength class or read up on what they do in those classes, do a lot of cardio and eat a ton of protein and don't eat food that tends to sit in your midsection (carbs).
At least that's what I've heard. I've never had defined stomach muscles. All I drink is beer and I eat massive portions of pasta 2-3 times a week. Even when I was hitting the gym and running playing lacrosse constantly I've had a flat but completely undefined girl's stomach. I assume that it's because of my carbohydrate intake, but I honestly have no idea.
79,000 ways to work your abs out by typing in "best ab workout" in google...its awesome try it monk
99% of those are just marketing ploys for a certain machine or whatever.
I'd prefer to get advice from a real person who it has actually worked for.
@ rjs I don't think I really need to alter my diet I try to eat about 250 grams of protein a day, but I'm in the same boat with the flat stomach. Everything else is coming together pretty well so I really want to start seeing some progress there.
SD get deleted or something?
Quote from: rjs246 on August 11, 2009, 05:45:04 PM
Take a core-strength class or read up on what they do in those classes, do a lot of cardio and eat a ton of protein and don't eat food that tends to sit in your midsection (carbs).
This pretty much. Run a lot. Losing the fat on your stomach will make you more defined. That's a big reason you see those skinny ass long distance runners with 6 packs.
there you go then: run around Kenya barefoot for a couple years and you'll get those abs you want
Awhile back I tried to get up early and hit the gym before work. It failed and I would go after work. The problem is that I was too lazy to get up at 545 and would have to force myself to go in the evenings (630ish).
This week I've been dragging my ass out of bed at 545 and going. It sucks getting up, but it has helped me. The gym isn't that crowded and I like being able to come home at night and relax or get some work done.
I have changed the way I eat and been running way too much and now I weigh less than I have since I was 20. I never meant to take it this far. Send help.
On the plus side, it doesn't take me 12 beers to get drunk any more. Only 8.
I'm a cheap date.
somewhere jihadist monk is smiling <3
I was pushing 155 the other week then i got the flu.
Still i've gained about 20 pounds since high school ended and my abs are finally starting to get pimped out. Very exciting.
Once I hold steady at 155 ish then im gonna start hardcore running.
I farged up a vertebrae and now I need to back off of lifting/running for the next month. That sucks, because I'll lose the momentum I've had going and I'll probably gain 15 pounds. Oh well, just another excuse to hit it hard when I can get back at it. It won't help that they closed my gym around the corner from work. Getting away from my desk to lift during the day was a huge benefit.
I'm having a bit of a philosophical crisis on the best way to build muscle mass.
For the past 3 or four months I've been doing this
Day 1: upper body
Day 2: legs
Day 3: rest
Then just repeat. This means I usually hit my upper and lower body hard twice a week each. Now I've definitely seen results but would I be better off if I did something like
Monday: chest, shoulders
Wednesday: arms
Friday: back
I've had people suggest to me I may be running in place because I'm overworking my entire body.
Mon, Wed, Fri---you have a days rest in between. how are you overworking your body?
youre talking to a bunch of dunces--try talking to a trainer in the gym kiddo
No I lift 2/3 days right now. My biggest concern is my biceps.
I mean it makes sense, but I really don't like not giving it a go when my biceps feel fine.
The general consensus seems to be work out your biceps hard only once a week. Thats annoying.
Quote from: reese125 on September 18, 2009, 11:02:25 AM
Mon, Wed, Fri---you have a days rest in between. how are you overworking your body?
youre talking to a bunch of dunces--try talking to a trainer in the gym kiddo
Gym trainers are a waste of money. The rates those clowns charge are ridiculous and they don't help much.
Hit bodybuilding.com and read the stuff on that site. Then hit Google and read up. Go buy a book and dig in.
trainers in the gym are for people who don't have any friends willing to spot them.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 18, 2009, 02:04:19 PM
Quote from: reese125 on September 18, 2009, 11:02:25 AM
Mon, Wed, Fri---you have a days rest in between. how are you overworking your body?
youre talking to a bunch of dunces--try talking to a trainer in the gym kiddo
Gym trainers are a waste of money. The rates those clowns charge are ridiculous and they don't help much.
Hit bodybuilding.com and read the stuff on that site. Then hit Google and read up. Go buy a book and dig in.
oh I couldnt agree with you more. my advice to monk wasnt to pay for one and run him through a routine, but to talk with the trainer on days/training specific body parts.
The guys I know that do one body part at a time do eventually gain size, but I think you'd be better off doing total body work outs instead of concentrating on one area a day. Bench of Mondays and Fridays, incline bench on Wednesdays. Squat on mondays and fridays. Do lat pull downs, seated rows, butterfly machine, etc every mon-wed-fri.
Quote from: Munson on September 18, 2009, 02:24:22 PM
The guys I know that do one body part at a time do eventually gain size, but I think you'd be better off doing total body work outs instead of concentrating on one area a day. Bench of Mondays and Fridays, incline bench on Wednesdays. Squat on mondays and fridays. Do latissimus dorsi pull downs, seated rows, butterfly machine, etc every mon-wed-fri.
for igy (not that he reads this thread)
Okay so here was my workout today for all of your enjoyment, in order.
Pull Ups (real ones not the Hoyda kind)
3 sets of 10 reps
Bench Press 180 pounds
3 sets of 5 reps
Standing barbell curl
3 sets of 10 reps
Bench Press 130 pounds
3 sets of 20, 15, then 8
40lb Dumbell isolation curl
3 sets of 15, 10, 10
Butterfly arms
3 sets of 10
20lb Lat dumbell raises
3 sets of 5
135lb lat bar pull down
3 sets of 10
Tomorrow I will do leg press, leg extension and some squats. I will have a day off and then the day after that I will repeat my routine above with the exception of the bicep workouts, since apparently i'm overworking them.
Thoughts? Feel free to mock my weakness.
I don't know if it'll work for you but the fastest way I've built muscle was to increase the bench weight every set. For your bench, instead of doing 3 sets of 5 at 180....do a set of 8 at 175, a set of 8 at 180, then a set of 6 at either 185 or 190.
Keep building, even if it's only 5 pounds at a time, on every set. Start out lower if you want....First set, 8 reps, 160, then 8 reps at 170, then 6 at 180, etc and so on.
I can't get over this plateau with my farging biceps.
My shoulders are sore, my back is sore, my lats are sore, my biceps are not sore at all.
What the farg do I have to do?
Got NO Xplode and Cell Mass today. Very exciting.
After three months off I'm back at the gym and training for a 10k. Try to contain your excitement.
since the holidays, Ive been on that same exact 3 month kick with no lifting at all. I wish I was still single or had caribbean vacations every other week to have something to actually lift for.
it usually takes looking at a picture of myself gaining 2 chins or when I sit in the car and I have to unbutton my pant button after a meal to make the move and hit the gym. its an ongoing yearly cycle...horrendous. farg you and your sausage sandwiches dunkin donuts
Not to get all snuggly with you or anything, reese, but after moving to Boston and discovering the Dunkin Donuts breakfast sandwiches I promptly gained 20 pounds. I know your pain, that shtein is farging evil.
yeah i think I remember you saying that before. I tried to be slick willy and move over to the turkey sausage flatbread and that lasted a total of 4 days. then its right back to "yeah, let me get a medium cream and sugar, sausage egg and cheese on a croissant/biscuit and a reduced fat blueberry muffin" every day since.
thank god for that muffin
Quote from: reese125 on January 22, 2010, 01:22:32 PM
since the holidays, Ive been on that same exact 3 month kick with no lifting at all. I wish I was still single or had caribbean vacations every other week to have something to actually lift for.
it usually takes looking at a picture of myself gaining 2 chins or when I sit in the car and I have to unbutton my pant button after a meal to make the move and hit the gym. its an ongoing yearly cycle...horrendous. farg you and your sausage sandwiches dunkin donuts
I know what you're talking about. Sometimes I wish I wasn't naturally built like a brick shteinhouse so I'd be more motivated to work out
ok, i'm a fat farg. Just started working out, and i did something to my lower body. It feels like i have a tennis ball thats rolling around in my left pelvic area. I had this a few months back thought it was a hernia, but they had no clue. Started running again and this popped up after two days. Its a weird feeling, kinda makes me dizzy when it kicks up. Any ideas? Also, yes i'm fat RJS, but i'm planning for 2012 to get ready for the zombie apocalypse
maybe it's an erection
if its coming out of my left hip then i have a problem. I'm pretty sure at this point i know when i sport wood.
As an added symptom, it only bothers me when i have my legs at 90 degrees sitting/driving.
Sucks there SB. I just started working out again, I am in the same boat as rjs and reese. Didn't do sthein around the holidays, now I have a little flab in my gut.
i'm a fat ass and i get what i deserve. I maintain around 220 i'm 5'11 so i'm not exactly huge, but not normal. I'm 2 years away from being 30 and dont like how my metabolism is supposed to change at some point here. I've maintained this weight for the past 8 years, but its not worth it and its time i get control of myself. Just dont like this pain. I had a MRI done before, but they didnt see shtein, i just dont want to farg my body up more than it already is.
Anyone else get horrendously aromatic shteins when they add protein powder to their diet? farg.
The metabolism in your 30's stinks. I really need to get back in shape. I did a great job last summer and actually lost too much and got down to my high school weight. I started lifting and not worrying about what I eat and I'm back up to 215. I'm aiming for 190-200. I need to get into the P90X routine and start running. Damn it's cold outside.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 27, 2010, 08:42:21 AM
Anyone else get horrendously aromatic shteins when they add protein powder to their diet? farg.
Yeah, it'll die down once your body get used to it. The farts never stop though, those are offensive.
Was on the treadmill for 6 miles this morning. I have blisters in places I didn't know existed.
Anyone ever try the zig zag diet or any of its variants?
smoking weed all day long?
Quote from: Eagaholic on February 05, 2010, 04:15:56 PM
Anyone ever try the zig zag diet or any of its variants?
Does it involve smokin them tweeds?
Dammit seabiscuit.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2010, 01:53:14 PM
ok, i'm a fat farg. Just started working out, and i did something to my lower body. It feels like i have a tennis ball thats rolling around in my left pelvic area. I had this a few months back thought it was a hernia, but they had no clue. Started running again and this popped up after two days. Its a weird feeling, kinda makes me dizzy when it kicks up. Any ideas? Also, yes i'm fat RJS, but i'm planning for 2012 to get ready for the zombie apocalypse
Sounds like a sports hernia. Hard to diagnose on MRI.
Info (http://www.athleticadvisor.com/Injuries/General_Inj/athletic_hernias.htm)
I'm going back to cutting the following trash from my diet:
French Fries
Hamburgers
Soda
Fried Foods
I wasn't abusing these...but my body hadn't seen its share of fruits and vegetables in a long time. My stomach is starting to become the immovable object.
Also, according to Dr. Oz...every 30 lbs of fat that you lose, you gain 1 inch of length on your penis, so here's to hopefully getting up to average in length.
Quote from: hbionic on February 10, 2010, 10:05:31 AM
Also, according to Dr. Oz...every 30 lbs of fat that you lose, you gain 1 inch of length on your penis,
By the way if this is true...all those fargers on 'the biggest loser' should be making horses blush.
Quote from: hbionic on February 10, 2010, 10:05:31 AM
French Fries
Hamburgers
Soda
Fried Foods
You know, it's good to cut down on this stuff, especially fried food and soda, but if you start running or just exercising enough to burn off the calories you don't have to diet like a woman.
Also, sorry to hear about your tiny wang.
When I was playing basketball 3 times a week...I was shedding the pounds just breathing.
I guess I'm more concerned with cholesterol, diabetes, and all the other shtein that comes with not taking care of self.
So...for any of you that know the answer...for example during the summer olympics, they would show the food that Michael Phelps would eat...and the quantity he would intake....and a lot of it is carbs....but there was a lot of shtein in there that didn't seem so kosher...just calorie loaded....so...with enough exercise...do we even have to worry about the cholesterol levels in food? Or does that shtein just burn off as well?
Cholesterol especially has a lot to do with genetics, but if you're intaking an unhealthy amount of anything your body will probably suffer for it eventually.
A ton of fried food will probably farg you up, fried food in reasonable portions every now and then is probably not a big deal. Probably.
rusty pretty much hit the nail on the head, especially regarding fried food. it's obviously not good for you, but in appropriate moderation (and your genetics plays a role in what "appropriate" would be for each person) then fried foods and junk foods in general are virtually harmless.
dont forget delicious
So we're in the gym a few days ago and there's a trio of the "oh my god" girls in there. You know the type. The dumb chicks who only say say "oh my god" while pecking away on their phones and wearing those goddamn stupid ugly Ugg boots. They're doing about 5 minutes on each machine, watching MEAN GIRLS on the TV, drinking gatorade, bitching about how fat they are and they left after 25 minutes. I wanted to drop a barbell on their faces.
is barbell a new word for skeet? i have trouble keeping up with young people jargin these days.
I was thinking more along the lines of Cleveland steamer.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2010, 02:55:33 PM
i'm a fat ass and i get what i deserve. I maintain around 220 i'm 5'11 so i'm not exactly huge, but not normal. I'm 2 years away from being 30 and dont like how my metabolism is supposed to change at some point here. I've maintained this weight for the past 8 years, but its not worth it and its time i get control of myself. Just dont like this pain. I had a MRI done before, but they didnt see shtein, i just dont want to farg my body up more than it already is.
You looked pretty damm good in that speedo when we went to that...............oh shtein sorry. My bad.
Did you get that hernia thing checked? I had hernia surgery almost to the day last year. No idea how I got it. Sucked. It was kind of surreal. I go into get it checked shortly after I got it and the next thing I know I'm in the hospital having surgery. Whole thing was like 12 days from discovery to surgery. Surgery was easy but the recovery was a bitch. I was back surfing in two months - actually surfed with Ryan and Andrew my first time back in the water. Walked like a mofo to get back in shape. Stayed away from the weights for about 6 months.
Quote from: hbionic on February 10, 2010, 10:05:31 AM
I'm going back to cutting the following trash from my diet:
French Fries -- bake them instead of frying them
Hamburgers -- try turkey meat. After you cover it in condiments you won't notice much of a difference
Soda -- a Sprite once in a while won't kill you but none of them are good for ya...even the diet ones
Fried Foods -- something like fried chicken, limit it to once every week or 2 weeks
I eat turkey burgers all the time at home. When I was in PA and on the major diet/weight loss the Genuardi's by me made some bad ass turkey burgers. I cook 'em on a George Foreman grill now. But when we go out once in awhile, I'll indulge on a real hamburger.
Diet Coke is a need for me. I drink water so much that I need some flavor once in awhile (also use crystal light packets from time to time). I'll drink 2-3 DC's a day and it didn't hinder my progress. And now I can't even drink a regular soda. Regular coke? One sip and I'm done.
I discourage everyone from ever doing research into the awful things that soda (diet or otherwise) does to your body. You'll never want to drink it again.
any liquid refreshment that you can make a bomb out of is a red flag to put in your body
I know this is heresy to this crowd but we have switched to Turkey bacon. And I like it. :P
same here...have been for a while. even made my way over to the turkey ground beef as well.
now go buy italian turkey sausage and fire it up on the grill. slap some spicy mustard on it...good night!
turkey sausage is pretty good but i just can't get into the turkey bacon. not that i think it tastes bad. i like it. i just happen to love good ol' fashioned greasy, fatty pig bacon more.
i'm all about improving my diet and eating healthier but there's a few things that i'm not open to compromise on and bacon is one of them.
Quote from: Don Ho on February 10, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on January 24, 2010, 02:55:33 PM
i'm a fat ass and i get what i deserve. I maintain around 220 i'm 5'11 so i'm not exactly huge, but not normal. I'm 2 years away from being 30 and dont like how my metabolism is supposed to change at some point here. I've maintained this weight for the past 8 years, but its not worth it and its time i get control of myself. Just dont like this pain. I had a MRI done before, but they didnt see shtein, i just dont want to farg my body up more than it already is.
You looked pretty damm good in that speedo when we went to that...............oh shtein sorry. My bad.
Did you get that hernia thing checked? I had hernia surgery almost to the day last year. No idea how I got it. Sucked. It was kind of surreal. I go into get it checked shortly after I got it and the next thing I know I'm in the hospital having surgery. Whole thing was like 12 days from discovery to surgery. Surgery was easy but the recovery was a bitch. I was back surfing in two months - actually surfed with Ryan and Andrew my first time back in the water. Walked like a mofo to get back in shape. Stayed away from the weights for about 6 months.
Nah, once i stopped my attempts at working out i was fine. Shortly after that wonderful injury, i snapped my toe and figured i'd go ahead and let it heal for 2 weeks. It's about that time to give it a go again
it's pretty common for people to pack on a few lbs over the winter since we tend to be less active thanks to the cold weather and between thanksgiving and capitalismas, we eat like a bunch of pigs. normally my winter weight gain was something like 4-7 lbs. nothing major.....until this year. back in october i weighed 195, mostly lean pounds. in mid january i jumped on a scale for the first time since then and was a havas-like 223. at 71" tall, the most i'm supposed to weigh and remain in standards is 197. so 223 lbs was a big problem.
so i decided to make some drastic changes to my diet.
breakfast - wake up 15 min earlier and have a bowl of cereal or a bagel. on the way to work, eat a banana.
mid-morning - a few carrot sticks or a cup of mixed fruit.
lunch - mostly either tuna fish or egg salad on wheat. 2 sammiches and some fruit or chips. for variety, maybe some top ramen or a can of soup instead of the sandwiches.
mid-afternoon - more carrot sticks or fruit.
dinner - whatever the farg i want. salmon, steak, pizza, tacos, etc, etc.
also, i've began drinking a lot more water and juice (real oj and real cranberry) and a lot less soda. in fact, pertty much the only soda i've had in the last 6 weeks was a little splash with my makers.
the result after 45 days without really increasing my activity level has been a loss of 21.5 pounds. so basically, the next big shtein i take will have me back down within standards. in addition, i've got tons more energy throughout the day and because the stuff i'm eating for lunch is so cheap, i've managed to knock almost $50 off my grocery bill. so i guess you could say that even though i'm losing so much weight, my wallet is getting pretty fat. lolololololololololololololololololol
Way to gain 28 pounds in 5 months, fatty.
those months were absolutely delicious.
I ran six miles this morning.
I want to die now.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 04, 2010, 10:49:17 AM
I ran six miles this morning.
eww
Quote
I want to die now.
do it
Okay so I've heard a lot of good things about P90x. Has anyone here tried it and for anyone who knows about it as my main goal is muscle gain is this something I should stay away from or is this good at adding muscle as well as losing fat?
i have a buddy at work who's doing it and he said it's hard as farg but he's already noticing a difference. fat turning to muscle, sliming down in fatty areas, etc, etc. says he's having a good time with it.
in semi-related news.....much like in sports, being 33 makes me an "old man" because being a marine really is a young man's thing. for the most part though, i've kept myself in decent shape despite the fact that my knees are shot after having a couple surgeries on them along with spending 6yrs in the grunts which basically meant i walked every farging where i went and carried all my shtein in my pack. so as a result, the wear and tear has taken it's toll on my knees, legs, back, etc, etc and there are some days where getting out of bed is painful. so a bunch of the younger marines.....like 18-22 yrs old decided to play football after work. i went with and absolutely wore them the farg out on the field. they were taking turns trying to cover me when i was on offense and they couldn't. they were trying anything to out run me when i was on defense and they couldn't. 2 hours later they were worn out so i called them a bunch of hoydas for letting an old man break them down so much and then to rub it in, i semi-sprinted to my car.
then i got in my car and i cried because my entire farging body was aching from head to toe. stopped at the drug store on my way home and bought the economy size tub of icy hot, a heat pad and some motrin to ease the swelling in my knees. if those bastiches would have wanted to try and run one more play i'm pretty sure i would have died on the spot.
i'm seriously in a lot of pain right now. but it was worth it.
I have seen so many war movies with heads carrying those packs on their back that I always wonder what those friggin things weigh.... and are you held to a certain limit?
I have to imagine it differs in which unit your in, but I could never imagine carrying that shtein for long periods of time
Ha. Sarge, let us know how much time it takes to recover (if you ever do). Seriously, I do know what you're talking about. It's been probably 3 years since I could do any kind of a real lower body work out because of my knees.
you're only limited by how much weight you actually want to carry. as long as it fits in your pack, you can throw a tv in there if you want. but the minute is slows you down, expect the other guys in your fire team/squad/platoon to throw it off a cliff.
alot also depends on what you're doing and what gear you're required to have with you. everyone tries to scale their packs down as much as possible to reduce weight but that also comes with consequences (think black hawk down when they were getting ready to go out on a mission and they told that one kid that his sappy plates were only going to weigh him down. so he left them and got shot.) and it's not just the packs themselves......in fact, i'd say that the pack alone isn't really all that heavy. i doubt mine ever weighed more than 40 or 50 lbs but i never threw it on a scale to be certain. of course, if it rained then you're farged because that means that your half of the tent (we use newer, lighter gear now but when i was a grunt, our tents were issued in halves. when it's time to set them up, you pair up with someone else and snap them together.) anyway, the half of a tent that we carried was a thick canvass and was heavy. and if it rained and you didn't do a good job waterproofing it then you had that extra water weight to carry too.
but like i said, the pack was only part of it. there was your kevlar vest, your weapon, canteens, magazine/w ammo, kevlar helmet, etc, etc. all that shtein added up. a full combat load was probably in the area of 150 lbs. and on an average day in the field, we'd probably walk about 10 total miles. of course, this is also over rough terrain, through creeks and shallow rivers, up hill, down hill, blah blah blah. and then there's digging a fighting hole which is roughly the size of 2 caskets stacked on top of each other. and you get a shovel that's not much bigger than a large spoon to dig it with. good times. and you get rewarded with a couple hours of sleep either in your hole or on a half inch thick mat (similar to a yoga mat) flat on the ground.
i'm seriously amazed at the guys who came in the corps with me as grunts and are still doing it 15 years later. those guys are farging maniacs.
Quotebut like i said, the pack was only part of it. there was your kevlar vest, your weapon, canteens, magazine/w ammo, kevlar helmet, etc, etc. all that shtein added up. a full combat load was probably in the area of 150 lbs.
you have got to be kidding me? props to you son
yeah. and at the time i only weighed about 155-160 so i was nearly doubling my body weight. i'd say that for me personally, with the gear that i'd pack, i was only adding about 100 extra pounds.....most of them cigarettes.
Im just picturing myself carrying (2) 45lbs plates and a 10 lb'er on my back then taking a stroll uphill in the rain....bwhaha.
i'm still extremely sore. every muscle in my body is seriously cramped up right now and most of my joints feel like they're being stabbed with ice picks. fortunately, i don't work out with weights very much so i have very few actual muscles. but the ones i do have hurt. a lot. i can also feel my heart beat in my knees. tomorrow is going to be rough. just gotta fake it long enough to walk from my car to my office. then i'll pull down the shade on my window and collapse.
So, you're hoping there's no call for a rematch at lunch?
I read a good article on P90X it was saying if you aren't in shape it is a good thing. Basically because it is having you do things your muscles have never done. They said after you do it a few times though it is time to move on.
surprisingly, i wasn't nearly as sore this morning as i thought i'd be.....especially in the knees and back. they don't feel any worse than any other normal day. so that's good.
the downer though is that i'm pretty sure i pulled my groin. not too bad because it didn't bother me at all while playing but after a couple hours last night it started hurting a little and this morning it hurt quite a bit. we're working this weekend and some of the guys said they wanted a rematch on saturday. ain't gonna happen though. i told them i have important meetings to go to but i'm pretty sure i'm going to lay on the couch in my office and sleep instead.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 04, 2010, 10:52:18 PM
i'm still extremely sore. every muscle in my body is seriously cramped up right now and most of my joints feel like they're being stabbed with ice picks. fortunately, i don't work out with weights very much so i have very few actual muscles. but the ones i do have hurt. a lot. i can also feel my heart beat in my knees. tomorrow is going to be rough. just gotta fake it long enough to walk from my car to my office. then i'll pull down the shade on my window and collapse.
:-D :-D :-D :-D
still a little sore but decided to go for a short run today. spent a good 20 minutes stretching before my legs felt lose enough to run. jogged a mile and a half in about 10 minutes. then spent another 20 minutes doing some cool down stretches.
workout summary:
40 minutes stretching
10 minutes running
probably the least productive hour of my life.
I ran three miles at a 6:38 second pace this morning (which is only impressive in the context of my old man legs) then did yard work all day and forgot to eat lunch. Rather than just wanting to die, I think this might actually lead to me dying. Whoops.
that's faster than i get around anymore. that's also faster than roughly 60% of marines 23yrs old and under. nice job. i'm in the 23-24min range. i could easily get myself back down to about 20min in about 4 weeks if i went out and ran 3x a week. but i have more important shtein to do. like smoke cigarettes.
I'm squatting a girlie 155 lbs (2-45's, 2-10's, 45 lbs bar)....my goal is 225 lbs. by the end of April.
I've always had the dream of touching the 10 ft rim...I guess this is just as good a time as any...I used to be able to touch it with the tip of my fingers back in highschool before I knew what weights were. I'm starting to play basketball up to 3 times a week. I suck at running and don't have the mental stamina to run like Rusty does.
Anyways, yes, I'm a Hoyda...but soon I'll be a beast (once I start working out my upper body).
wanting to jump 70lbs in less than 2 months is pretty ambitious. luckily your starting point is so low that if you show any consistency in your workout regimen at all, it's a pretty attainable goal.
in other words, you're a hoyda.
Ask Manny
Quote from: mpmcgraw on March 04, 2010, 08:30:39 PM
Okay so I've heard a lot of good things about P90x. Has anyone here tried it and for anyone who knows about it as my main goal is muscle gain is this something I should stay away from or is this good at adding muscle as well as losing fat?
P90X is okay. I agree that once you really get in good shape, you have have probably progressed beyond their workout. The best thing about it is it gives you a bunch of different workouts that you wouldn't do on your own. Like the pylometrics, which was new to me and a good workout.
I have been doing some of the P90X workouts (focusing on weights) but in a very limited fashion since I'm trying to get ready for a race and not trying to add too much muscle. They definitely throw stuff in there that I wouldn't think to do.
Also, I celebrated my new-found running prowess with some cigarettes yesterday. It's all about balance, people.
Alright fellas anyone ever tried out supplements (not steroids obviously) that they'd recommend? If not I'm probably going to go back to NO Xplode and stack it with something else like CellMass even though I did that once.
I'm really frustrated at the lack of results in my arms and chest lately. My back is getting farging ripped, but its to the point where its almost too muscley because the rest of me just isn't at the same place.
Any and all recommendations welcome.
how much do you weigh?
Well right now 149 because my bowels and water weight were thoroughly emptied by a virus on Sunday, but the past month or so I've been between 153-155 depending on the point in the day.
dude, you need to do whatever it takes to gain some weight and focus on just that if youre looking for the results which I think youre looking for. I mean, even at 155lbs you can be shredded which is a good thing for your body mass. if youre looking to be jacked like your boy mike "the situation" then thats going to take some time
you can take all the supplements you want, lift all you want, but you'll never gain any kind of mass if you dont eat right. I keep hearing you talk of all these supplements your putting into your body, but what are you actually putting into your body as far food? If you consistently juice up on the calories and carbs, take your protein supplements to build/restabalize your muscles, and pyramid lift with increasing your weight and lowering your rep count... I cant see this not working. You have to eat at least 6-8 times a day.
at your age your metabolism is racing and you need to try and slow it down a bit. then the mike the situation results will come.
I completely understand what your saying, but the bottom line is I just don't have the money to pay for the food or have time to cook most of the recommended stuff that I see on websites.
I mean do you have a diet you'd recommend or have seen something somewhere that looks right. I need guidance lol
You weigh 149 pounds. Just eat a lot. Avoid food with trans fats as you won't be able to turn that into anything productive. Outside of that you can eat whatever the hell you want. Lots of protein, lots of carbs, lots of calories whatever. Jesus.
But I don't want to be fat either maybe I've got that whole anorexic thing going on, but I'm really not that skinny I'm only 5'8.
If you workout, which you clearly do, and your matabolism is already naturally high, which it obviously is, you can basically eat whatever you want. Eat more, keep lifting. The end.
Dude you want to have your cake and eat it too. rjs is right eat pretty much whatever you want. You need to get a lot of protein and carbs.
I recommend Muscle Juice as far as supplements and what it seems you are looking for.
Hmm alright, you guys have convinced me.
I'm going to shoot for 4 or 5 meals per day with a whey protein drink in the morning and before bed.
I'll check back in a month and if I am fat I will beat you all up. Probably not, but I might cry.
Ha! Thats the same thing my boy did in high school to gain weight for football. It didn't work. He was cut as hell, but no girth. I tried to tell him I was the same way when I was young and he's inherited my metabolism. Only way he'll gain weight is when he gets older and his metabolism slows down. Some people are just like that.
Did what? Eat like crazy or lift like crazy? It didn't work?
I took a large poop today and I'm pretty sure I dropped a pound and a half...so...I'm down to 200lbs. :yay
Quote from: mpmcgraw on March 09, 2010, 06:39:11 PM
Did what? Eat like crazy or lift like crazy? It didn't work?
Both. As well as protien shakes, and stuff. I still have a big jug about 1/4 full of some kind of weight gain mix.
Quote from: hbionic on March 10, 2010, 12:37:31 AM
I took a large poop today and I'm pretty sure I dropped a pound and a half...so...I'm down to 200lbs. :yay
Ha! I'd like to think I'd get down to 200 again. I still lift, but don't really do any excercise other than work. Got on the scales the other day and my eyes bugged out when I looked down and saw 243. 20 of which I have no doubt is beer gut. I know it's bad for me, but I love draft beer.
How the farg can anyone eat 450 grams of carbohydrates in a day (3x body weight as is recommended by most "experts" for muscle building)? Seriously even raisin bran cereal only has 50 grams of carbohydrates.
How the farg can anyone eat 450 grams of carbohydrates in a day (3x body weight as is recommended by most "experts" for muscle building)? Seriously even raisin bran cereal only has 50 grams of carbohydrates.
then eat 9 bowls dumbass.
could you even eat 9 bowls of cereal in a day, fatty?
no. that's why i eat just 1 bowl of total.
i hate you
that makes 2 of us
Ran my 10k this past weekend. It went well but 3 months of constant 3-6 mile runs has completely farged my joints. My knees, ankles and hips all feel like shtein. I'm thinking about switching to swimming to go easy on my knees since my gym has two pools. Anyone here swim? I swam as a kid and was pretty good at it but I haven't used those muscles in 15+ years and I'm wondering how long its going to take me to get back into it...
man, i havent swam competitively in forever, but make sure you buy a speedo
Quote from: rjs246 on March 30, 2010, 09:57:03 AM
Ran my 10k this past weekend. It went well but 3 months of constant 3-6 mile runs has completely farged my joints. My knees, ankles and hips all feel like shtein. I'm thinking about switching to swimming to go easy on my knees since my gym has two pools. Anyone here swim? I swam as a kid and was pretty good at it but I haven't used those muscles in 15+ years and I'm wondering how long its going to take me to get back into it...
Glucosamine. Love it.
You're welcome.
Quote from: charlie on March 30, 2010, 10:02:12 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on March 30, 2010, 09:57:03 AM
Ran my 10k this past weekend. It went well but 3 months of constant 3-6 mile runs has completely farged my joints. My knees, ankles and hips all feel like shtein. I'm thinking about switching to swimming to go easy on my knees since my gym has two pools. Anyone here swim? I swam as a kid and was pretty good at it but I haven't used those muscles in 15+ years and I'm wondering how long its going to take me to get back into it...
Glucosamine. Love it.
You're welcome.
had my parents dog on that, worked great
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on March 30, 2010, 09:59:09 AM
man, i havent swam competitively in forever, but make sure you buy a speedo
I'll post pics.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 30, 2010, 09:57:03 AM
Ran my 10k this past weekend. It went well but 3 months of constant 3-6 mile runs has completely farged my joints. My knees, ankles and hips all feel like shtein. I'm thinking about switching to swimming to go easy on my knees since my gym has two pools. Anyone here swim? I swam as a kid and was pretty good at it but I haven't used those muscles in 15+ years and I'm wondering how long its going to take me to get back into it...
i swam competitively in high school and got heavy into combat swimming my first few years in the corps but haven't kept up as much over the last 10 yrs. i still get in the pool on a semi-regular basis and usually hurt afterwards. so you definitely are going to want to start off light and work your way back into it. anything more than a few "casual" laps starting out will turn every muscle in your body into jello.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on March 09, 2010, 02:49:13 PM
Well right now 149 because my bowels and water weight were thoroughly emptied by a virus on Sunday, but the past month or so I've been between 153-155 depending on the point in the day.
At that weight you should eat everything in sight. Try to fit 300 grams of protein in your diet if at all possible. They sell cheap protein supplements (like $10-15 for a months worth) on the internet. I know a lot of beginners that have gained quick mass by using Riptoe's program: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=712752
I know zanshin does martial arts but does anyone have any experience with boxing? During my hiatus I spent two months with a trainer. I only had one sparring session (with head gear), scored 1 lucky knock down but I was clearly overmatched. I herniated a disk in my lower back and haven't boxed since, but I'm eager to give it another try. It beats anger farging a chick in terms of taking out your aggression.
Quote from: Dalton on March 31, 2010, 07:45:01 PM
It beats anger farging a chick in terms of taking out your aggression.
It's OK that you're out and proud. We accept all kinds here, apparently.
Quote from: Dalton on March 31, 2010, 07:45:01 PM
I know zanshin does martial arts but does anyone have any experience with boxing? During my hiatus I spent two months with a trainer. I only had one sparring session (with head gear), scored 1 lucky knock down but I was clearly overmatched. I herniated a disk in my lower back and haven't boxed since, but I'm eager to give it another try. It beats anger farging a chick in terms of taking out your aggression.
:sly
I was 240 in August, I'm down to 190 right now. Been at this weight for a little while, the last 10 lbs. are a bitch to get off. I did cardio, weights, and watched what I ate to shed the weight. The problem I'm having now is I want to gain muscle and lose fat which is a tricky feat.
Quote from: Dalton on March 31, 2010, 07:45:01 PM
I know zanshin does martial arts but does anyone have any experience with boxing? During my hiatus I spent two months with a trainer. I only had one sparring session (with head gear), scored 1 lucky knock down but I was clearly overmatched. I herniated a disk in my lower back and haven't boxed since, but I'm eager to give it another try. It beats anger farging a chick in terms of taking out your aggression.
Anything as far as boxing, mma, etc.. is always a good way to work out and take out aggression. I take Krav Maga, though I haven't been able to do it nearly as much as I would like since going back to school.
Quote from: Dalton on March 31, 2010, 07:45:01 PM
It beats anger farging a chick in terms of taking out your aggression.
there is absolutely no farging way that pounding on the slam man is better than a good anger/grudge farg. farging squids.
I saw that Rippetoes program dalt, but I've been using the a 5x5 workout and I've seen gains every workout so far which is exciting.
I've also gained like 5 pounds since I've started eating like crazy and I drink 3 Whey protein shakes a day now so my calorie intake every day is probably somewhere between 3000-3500 which seems like a good number.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on April 03, 2010, 03:39:09 PM
I saw that Rippetoes program dalt, but I've been using the a 5x5 workout and I've seen gains every workout so far which is exciting.
I've also gained like 5 pounds since I've started eating like crazy and I drink 3 Whey protein shakes a day now so my calorie intake every day is probably somewhere between 3000-3500 which seems like a good number.
Keep that up, and I'm not sure but I think you said you're in your late teens early 20's which is the best age to start lifting because you have unreal levels of testosterone and growth hormone and should be able to build a foundation that lasts your whole life.
I'm down to 185 and back into a size 34 pants, at my largest I was in the 40 range which is sad but funny now that I think about it. I'm having some bad back problems as of late but that's nothing a darvocet can't fix.
I hit the rowing machine this morning in an attempt to do some cardio that didn't destroy my joints. Let's just say I have a new nemesis. That shtein kicked my ass.
the rowing machine? Ive only seen the 75 and uppers using that thing at my gym. must be making a comeback.
I used to have a rowing machine growing up, that thing was awesome.
I hadn't thought about using the rowing machine in years, but remembered that it was always a sonofabitch. Works legs, arms, back and gets the heart racing. I did ten minutes and was sore everywhere. I see a lot of old people on it too. I wonder why. Probably because their knees are like mine. Beat.
Anyone care to take a swing at that one?
work it rj...theres an open spot on the left for you
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Quote from: reese125 on April 09, 2010, 03:02:33 PM
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Yes. No. Yes. Yes. No. No. Maybe.
I think we can all assume that I hit the rowing machine a little differently than Estelle Getty up there, but boy did I set myself up for a little harassment. Yikes.
I hope so...especially being that mpmcgraw is her trainer
unless you are training to run I'd put a ton of weight on the machine and then do the row 5-10 times. You pretty much get as much out of it unless you are trying to build stamina.
people with gay kids are really confrontational
I used the rowing machine too. I'd blast out about 10 minutes at a fast pace after my ellipitcal session. Certainly gets the blood going thats for sure.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 04, 2010, 10:16:13 PM
in semi-related news.....much like in sports, being 33 makes me an "old man" because being a marine really is a young man's thing. for the most part though, i've kept myself in decent shape despite the fact that my knees are shot after having a couple surgeries on them along with spending 6yrs in the grunts which basically meant i walked every farging where i went and carried all my shtein in my pack. so as a result, the wear and tear has taken it's toll on my knees, legs, back, etc, etc and there are some days where getting out of bed is painful. so a bunch of the younger marines.....like 18-22 yrs old decided to play football after work. i went with and absolutely wore them the farg out on the field. they were taking turns trying to cover me when i was on offense and they couldn't. they were trying anything to out run me when i was on defense and they couldn't. 2 hours later they were worn out so i called them a bunch of hoydas for letting an old man break them down so much and then to rub it in, i semi-sprinted to my car.
then i got in my car and i cried because my entire farging body was aching from head to toe. stopped at the drug store on my way home and bought the economy size tub of icy hot, a heat pad and some motrin to ease the swelling in my knees. if those bastiches would have wanted to try and run one more play i'm pretty sure i would have died on the spot.
i'm seriously in a lot of pain right now. but it was worth it.
turns out, the back pain i've been experiencing over the last couple of years is the result of a bulging disk in my lower back. guess i should have gotten it looked at sooner but i was always able to suck it up. i've also started experiencing numbness in my left foot and calf whenever i do distance running. it starts out tingling in my toes, as if my foot were asleep and then just gets numb. after that, is massive throbbing and pain in my foot and lower leg. this resulted in me not being able to run 3 miles yesterday for our annual physical fitness test in the required time. today, my i can feel my knees grinding together whenever i move. it's like opening and closing a rusty door hinge. and my back is tighter than todd's wallet. i guess it's time for me to seek medical treatment. farg.
Sounds like a lower disc. I had the same symptoms about 5-6 years ago. Turned out to be a bulging L-5 disc. Had surgery, which pretty much got rid of the pain. but I still have occasional tingling in the left foot. Get it checked out - the surgery for me (microdiscectomy) was nearly instant relief, and that may not be needed in your case.
i started this 7AM boot camp thing this morning. mostly just running and calisthenics (sp?) and pushups and whatnot with a little weight training thrown in and wow do i feel like a bitch.
I have a horrible knot in my shoulder apparently. hurts like hell, the lady friend tried to get it out and she couldn't. i guess its ice and hot packs wrapped around my shoulder for a few days. farging annoying.
get some roids. lift more.
Anyone ever do a 5x5 routine? I'm thinking of giving one a shot to shake things up a bit.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 23, 2010, 01:13:38 PM
Anyone ever do a 5x5 routine? I'm thinking of giving one a shot to shake things up a bit.
Never heard of it so I'm guessing not.
I did, however, just get an email offering to sell me pictures of myself finishing the 10k that I ran. It also allowed me to preview these pictures. In one of them I am trucking, legs and fists pumping and right next to me is this dude who has to be like 80 years old. The effect is that the pictures looks like I am working my ass off to keep up with someone who might die from old age a literally any second. Good stuff.
A must buy.
New avatar
Oh yeah and I'm wearing an Eagles knit cap in the pictures. You know. Representin and whatnot.
That's great. The Eagles look like that all the time.
I have a ton of energy lately, today will mark my 14th day in a row at the gym. I'm having slight issues with my lower back but aside from that I feel as good as I ever have. I wanted to slim down a little for summer, so I cut out the bad carbs. Two weeks and 14 days later I'm down 7 lbs. It's good because my waist is down to 34 but my muscles don't have a full look.
That's great. I feel a ton better, too. Switching up the routine really, really helped. I did end up jumping on the 5x5 powerlifting routine. Totally different that the splits I've been doing for years, but I really like it and it's a total departure for my body, which is a good thing. Squats 3 days a week is a whore, but the results are solid.
As soon as I stopped running every day I gained 5 pounds and have stayed exactly at that weight for about a month. While I was running I was exactly at the same weight for like 2 and a half months. I think my body has found its equilibrium. I keep thinking about taking a few weeks off from drinking just to see if it gets rid of the mushiness in my stomach, but then I think farg that, I love you beer and I'm sorry for even thinking about breaking up with you, please forgive me.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 30, 2010, 09:30:16 AM
That's great. I feel a ton better, too. Switching up the routine really, really helped. I did end up jumping on the 5x5 powerlifting routine. Totally different that the splits I've been doing for years, but I really like it and it's a total departure for my body, which is a good thing. Squats 3 days a week is a whore, but the results are solid.
I can't do squats (with weights) because of issues with my lower back, but 3x a week sounds brutal.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 30, 2010, 09:35:21 AM
As soon as I stopped running every day I gained 5 pounds and have stayed exactly at that weight for about a month. While I was running I was exactly at the same weight for like 2 and a half months. I think my body has found its equilibrium. I keep thinking about taking a few weeks off from drinking just to see if it gets rid of the mushiness in my stomach, but then I think farg that, I love you beer and I'm sorry for even thinking about breaking up with you, please forgive me.
I hate to admit this but I cut beer completely out of my diet. It hasn't been as hard to deal with as I thought, primarily because I have so much going on right now. My break date is May 23rd (MMRbq). With that being said a few beers was never the problem, it was one lead to ten which lead to ordering a cheesesteak.
Yeah, that's my problem too. Moderation isn't my strong suit.
Moderation is for the weak.
I'm doing a variation of a 5x5 and its bangin.
I do hack squats. Seems to be easier on the knees and it still gets the job done. Especially when you are doing 10 sets of squats a week.
Hack squats are more concentrated on your quadriceps whereas regular squats work you entire legs (more). That being said Hack squats are the shtein.
Yeah I do leg extensions and calf raises too. I also alternate leg presses in and out. Being able to do 600 pounds of anything is always nice for the ego.
I do calf and hip raises, and then anus flexing.
I read somewhere that working out your legs is for women only and that men who do it enjoy licking the tip. I don't remember where I saw that, but I'm pretty sure it's scientifically proven.
Nothing makes a workout complete more than some anal flexing.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 03, 2010, 06:17:47 PM
I read somewhere that working out your legs is for women only and that men who do it enjoy licking the tip. I don't remember where I saw that, but I'm pretty sure it's scientifically proven.
I'd counter that it's far more girly to work on the glamor muscles. I don't think any dude is working legs primarily for looks. Working legs is hard work but there's nothing that produces more natural HGH, which means bigger strength gains everywhere....and more muscle mass means more calories burned even at rest, which means more beer without looking like a fatty. Working legs is the way to go.
Science has already proven my point for me thank you very much.
You're just trying to out me...and I don't like it one bit. Stupid science.
I never work out at all. Whoops.
I have to work out. My wife has a tendency to get shredded if she looks at a weight. I'm afraid if I don't stay strong, she'll try to kick my ass.
Does anyone know of a good web site for figuring out your daily caloric intake? I have a wager with the ladyfriend that I need to win.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 07, 2010, 08:48:04 AM
Does anyone know of a good web site for figuring out your daily caloric intake? I have a wager with the ladyfriend that I need to win.
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
This one's good because it shows what you need for maintenance, weight loss, and extreme weight loss. I'd say it's fairly accurate.
shtein. Unless my lunches are consistently more than 1000 calories I lost this bet. I would have sworn that I took in way more calories from food than I do. Hooray booze.
I use www.fitday.com
Its amazing how fast stuff adds up
Time Square being evacuated again according to CNN.
Haha, wrong thread. Buttholes.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 07, 2010, 01:31:48 PM
Time Square being evacuated again according to CNN.
How many calories were spent?
Quote from: rjs246 on May 07, 2010, 09:18:12 AM
shtein. Unless my lunches are consistently more than 1000 calories I lost this bet. I would have sworn that I took in way more calories from food than I do. Hooray booze.
I read an article a few years back that said people (on average) take in 1000 more calories a day then they think they do.
I'm taking in about 500 less than I thought. Maybe I'm not factoring in some significant quantities of calorie laden food, but either way, I was surprised by how few calories my research added up to.
I was up to 3500 calories for a bit there.
I've gotten a lot stronger, but now I'm shooting for 2500-2700. I was putting on a little too much flab for my liking.
I use www.fitday.com each day to track my calories and shtein I do in the gym.
I was browsing some of their activities that you can input as physical activity and under home activities is "butchering animals" which is good for 11 calories burned per minute.
And cooking Indian bread on an outside stove...wtf...which is good for 5 calories burned per minute.
fargin is good for 3 calories a minute.
If you don't burn more calories farging than making bread, you're doing it wrong.
I use www.sparkpeople.com
That's a pretty good site.
Since I'm getting a little older I decided to give a test booster a try. I used this stuff called tribulus terrestris, first two weeks of this stuff was amazing, but it knocks your estrogen level down so low that you start getting lethargic and tired (you need balance), so I had to quit. Gains were good, though.
You're getting old and fat.
Deal with it.
I've been back on my 6 days a week at the gym (35 minutes cardio, 35 minutes of weights and sit ups); so I go in there today and there's some jackoff there running on the treadmill without any shoes. He's guzzling some sort of protein drink and is dressed in sweats and a hoodie with the hood up.
Time for me to knock off 25 more now that I'm alone and can adhere to the strict diet of 1500-1800 a day
I cut back to zero days a week, but I have been drinking beer more and eating more fatty foods.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 04, 2010, 06:56:35 PM
I've been back on my 6 days a week at the gym (35 minutes cardio, 35 minutes of weights and sit ups); so I go in there today and there's some jackoff there running on the treadmill without any shoes. He's guzzling some sort of protein drink and is dressed in sweats and a hoodie with the hood up.
Time for me to knock off 25 more now that I'm alone and can adhere to the strict diet of 1500-1800 a day
I have the same routine but it's getting mundane and I need a change, thinking of doing the insanity video or giving p90x a shot. Haven't worked out in a week and a half because my back is farged.
Yeah it gets monotonous but its what I did during the 6-month massive drop I did 3 years ago. I plan to keep at it until I drop what I want, then when its time to maintain I will look for something better. Maybe biking or racqetball.
Over the weekend I sprained the shtein out of my ankle. It swelled up pretty bad and I may have to get it checked out because it hasn't gone down and I'm almost out of my stash of pain meds...
Anyways, this obviously puts a crimp in my workout routine and driving me crazy. I was in a groove and this shtein throws me off.
What can I do to not undo all of the progress? I wont be able to do any lower body stuff or any cardio for however long I'm hobbling.
But I still want to go. What kind of program can I do until I can get back into my normal routine?
Upper body and abs every day?
swim. don't over work muscles by doing upper body 6 times a week. you can get away with just 2-3 times a week lifting total anyway. if you keep tweaking it you'll just set it back more. swimming will help the healing..it'll give you cardio.. and should keep you tone. i work out on my bench significantly less in the summer just because i surf or am always swimming. one thing is for sure.. don't take pain killers if you have an injury and use that part in a work out and expect it to heal in a reasonable amount of time. only thing for it is rest and some basic movement to stop it from getting stiff. then snort some lines and have a beer while chilling on the couch. go get some Hoyda, that's a good exercise in itself. plus chicks dig injuries. stab yourself in the leg and pretend you got hit by a car saving a child and his baby pet bunny from a drunk. that should keep your adrenaline and metabolism up and get you some definite v-jay. or just get some HGH, rub some dirt on it and be working out by tomorrow, girl.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on July 04, 2010, 06:56:35 PM
I've been back on my 6 days a week at the gym (35 minutes cardio, 35 minutes of weights and sit ups); so I go in there today and there's some jackoff there running on the treadmill without any shoes. He's guzzling some sort of protein drink and is dressed in sweats and a hoodie with the hood up.
Time for me to knock off 25 more now that I'm alone and can adhere to the strict diet of 1500-1800 a day
the no shoes thing is actually a good training technique for running in half or full marathon. It's to get you to run lighter on your own feet and minimize the impact on the ground when running long distances. I've actually done the no shoes training, it works.
The sweats and hoodie? who the farg knows. Maybe he was just trainign with extra weight.
Probably had to cut to a certain weight so was trying to sweat the extra lbs off
Phreak, once you can walk fine for a couple days wear an ankle brace as tight as you can and you'll be able to run fine, just don't push it extremely hard. If you include calf raises in your workout, cut those out for awhile. I've broken my right ankle once and severely sprained it 10+ times from skateboarding and playing ball. Once you farg it up real nice once, it's more likely to happen again (and again...and again). My ankle is weak as shtein and I've rolled it a couple times doing simple stuff like walking down stairs quickly. Doctors recommend stuff like ankle alphabets and rubberband stretching, that shtein sucks and doesn't work. Once you can walk without it being painful as hell start running again, it'll stretch out the ankle and start cleaning up your tendons. It'll probably be real sore after, but you gotta get some work in for it or else it could heal wrong. The swelling might not go down, it doesn't really matter, my ankle is permanently nasty but it's the best it's felt in over a year.
Thanks Dillen.
I think I've got the same problem; I'm susceptible to re-injuring it. It happens a lot. I went to the doc today and they said that I need an MRI since its become a chronic thing. He things I may have stretched or torn something.
They gave me a sleeve type brace that has silicon in it and it feels good.
I've been cutting claories back to make up for missing the workouts. This sucks because I was in a good zone.
girl
I just finished reading The 4 Hour Work Week and, in addition to being fairly inspirational for those of us who are 9-5 cube-jockeys, the author talks several times about his experiments in muscle gain and weight loss (the dude has tons of time on his hands and frequently does these types of 'what can I make my body do' types of experiments).
The site that he maintains in conjunction with the book has these three posts about weight loss and muscle gain. Fascinating stuff:
Science. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/02/25/the-science-of-fat-loss-why-a-calorie-isnt-always-a-calorie/)
Losing fat. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/)
Gaining muscle. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/)
That's pretty cool. I need to look into that, because I farging hate exercise for the sake of exercise.
I love competitive stuff, like racquetball and squash, but I suck at both because I don't work out. Kind of an endless spiral.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 29, 2010, 01:42:56 PM
I just finished reading The 4 Hour Work Week and, in addition to being fairly inspirational for those of us who are 9-5 cube-jockeys, the author talks several times about his experiments in muscle gain and weight loss (the dude has tons of time on his hands and frequently does these types of 'what can I make my body do' types of experiments).
The site that he maintains in conjunction with the book has these three posts about weight loss and muscle gain. Fascinating stuff:
Science. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/02/25/the-science-of-fat-loss-why-a-calorie-isnt-always-a-calorie/)
Losing fat. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/)
Gaining muscle. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/)
So I'm gonna try the gaining muscle shtein above.
The idea is simple:
- Instead of working out constantly work out your entire body twice a week (as Zanshin has pointed out, working out the entire body produces more growth hormones), making sure that you are doing full-range-of-motion exercises and that doing all of your sets to muscle failure. Take breaks between sets.
- Eat a shteinload of protein.
It also suggests cuting carbs WAY down, but that is unlikely since I enjoy an alcoholic beverage or seven.
We'll see how it goes...
So far so good. After three workouts I'm seeing a lot more definition which is pretty impressive considering the slow slog that is my usual path to progress. Also, I've added TONS of calories to my diet in the form of increased protein intake without cutting anywhere else and I've still managed to lose a pound since I started. The hard part is without a doubt getting your mind OK with actually pushing each set to muscle failure. Very different than what I've been used to doing.
I still think that lifting with your legs is for the gays, but here I am, lifting with my legs. So there you have it.
Todd Herremans always suspected you were gay, anyway.
I might give the fat burning one a try. I've been slacking lately, I'm happy with the muscle I've gained but would still like to shed a few.
I have a cold so I haven't been motivated to go to the gym all week. Went out drinking with the boys lastnight and got the workout itch this morning. So instead of focusing on one body part I did a little of everything:
Flat bench: 160-185 3 sets 8-10 reps
Shoulder dumbell press 50-55 3 sets 8-10 reps
Wide grip lat pulldown: 130 3 sets 8-10 reps
Dips: To exhaustion, which is like 10-15 3 sets
Concentration curls: 35 8-10 reps 3 sets
Upper body press machine 150 8-10 reps 3 sets
First time I ever hit that many different body parts in one day. I cut cardio out of the mix but worked up a ridiculous sweat because I set the pace so high. I'm already sore, tomorrow is going to suck the big one.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 11, 2010, 10:16:40 AM
So far so good. After three workouts I'm seeing a lot more definition which is pretty impressive considering the slow slog that is my usual path to progress. Also, I've added TONS of calories to my diet in the form of increased protein intake without cutting anywhere else and I've still managed to lose a pound since I started. The hard part is without a doubt getting your mind OK with actually pushing each set to muscle failure. Very different than what I've been used to doing.
I still think that lifting with your legs is for the gays, but here I am, lifting with my legs. So there you have it.
I am going to assume that after your 4th workout that you're totally ripped.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 11, 2010, 10:16:40 AM
So far so good. After three workouts I'm seeing a lot more definition which is pretty impressive considering the slow slog that is my usual path to progress. Also, I've added TONS of calories to my diet in the form of increased protein intake without cutting anywhere else and I've still managed to lose a pound since I started. The hard part is without a doubt getting your mind OK with actually pushing each set to muscle failure. Very different than what I've been used to doing.
I still think that lifting with your legs is for the gays, but here I am, lifting with my legs. So there you have it.
How do you feel the next day? Like a hundred dollars?
Actually, with the huge quantities of protein that I'm eating my muscles haven't gotten as sore as I would have expected. Let's not kid ourselves, I did't have tons of muscle mass on me to begin with. I've spent the last 4-5 years of my life obsessively keeping my weight down at the expense of muscle mass and in the face of raging alcoholism, so i'm not going to be scaring off any linebackers just yet, but definition is all I'm looking for and this is building muscle quickly. Sort of fascinating that its actually working.
But yes, now that I've done four workouts (fifth one this afternoon) I am farging shredded.
If it really works, you must post the details of which exercises you do. Also, I'm interested in the concept of muscle "failure" - doesn't that just mean doing a set until you're too tired to continue? Then you basically work different muscles the same way 3 minutes later?
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 12, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
Also, I'm interested in the concept of muscle "failure" - doesn't that just mean doing a set until you're too tired to continue? Then you basically work different muscles the same way 3 minutes later?
That's exactly right. And is why this workout is designed specifically for nautilus machines and not freeweights.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 12, 2010, 02:58:18 PM
Actually, with the huge quantities of protein that I'm eating
Oh hey I get it! Gaywad Blowjobs!
Quote from: rjs246 on August 12, 2010, 03:17:34 PM
Blowjobs!
(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/82brewers/4kf2nhk.gif)
no wonder you like true blood so much.
Hey. If anyone is going to be gay around here, it's gonna be ME.
speaking of bodybuilding. does anyone find this appealing in the slightest ? i mean why the farg would a woman want to look like this ?
(http://amazingdata.com/mediadata35/Image/hot_weird_funny_amazing_cool8_a-women-bodybuilder-trainwreck-16_2009073023323611542.jpg)
Deep seeded psychological issues?
has to be it. it's one thing for a woman to workout and get tone but trying to get like that freak is just taking it too far.
Because that's what she wants to see in the mirror every day.
Don't get me wrong, I don't find muscluar chicks the least bit attractive. But in a country literally bursting at the seams with obese people, I'm not going to complain about a few chicks who are workout warriors.
well considering this is the workout thread i wanted to stay on topic.
I only did the eliptical and situps today. I like to have one day where I dont lift, just cardio and calisthenics.
I dislocated my right shoulder a long time ago, and after that I could pretty much separate it whenever I wanted to (obviously I wouldn't want to do it...ever, but the point remains). I never do shoulder exercises besides front raises and press because I'd feel it would get ripped out any time I moved it up or down at my side. Every now and then I'd try something as simple as a lateral raise with like 20 pounds and after 3 or 4 it would feel like my rotator cuff would tear so I'd stop. For whatever reason that stopped happening 3 weeks ago and I've gotten full shoulder workouts in since. It's nice for a change, and this will probably jinx it and my arms will almost certainly dismember themselves next week.
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:SJoTaa3yrexa7M:http://www.eyje.com/images/emimages/you-gonna-die.jpg&t=1)
Hahahaha
doods i fargin pumped major iron for 4 workouts and i am so ripped right now.
Matt loves this thread like I love the restaurant thread.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 13, 2010, 09:20:01 AM
doods i fargin pumped major iron for 4 workouts and i am so ripped right now.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 13, 2010, 09:23:05 AM
Matt loves this thread like I love the restaurant thread.
To be fair you like to post about drinking, feeding your retarded dog her own eye boogers, drinking, and working out. Matt likes to post about getting chicks to do naughty things. On the surface, he kind of wins. A lot.
Quote from: FastFreddie on August 13, 2010, 11:03:16 AM
Quote from: phattymatty on August 13, 2010, 09:20:01 AM
doods i fargin pumped major iron for 4 workouts and i am so ripped right now.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 13, 2010, 09:23:05 AM
Matt loves this thread like I love the restaurant thread.
To be fair you like to post about drinking, feeding your retarded dog her own eye boogers, drinking, and working out. Matt likes to post about getting chicks to do naughty things. On the surface, he kind of wins. A lot.
Oh yeah, no argument here.
I think we all are living vicariously through Phatty right now, lol
I had the privilege of being in the company of "The Grunter" this morning.
My apartment gym is small, but does the job. 6 cardio machines, Nautilus equipment, benches and dumbbells.
I'm on the elliptical and there's Senor Grunts with his bottle of protein shake and weight belt hammering away with the dumbbells. He's curling the 35's rapidly. He'd complete his set and stroll around the whole gym pumping himself up. Then he moved over to the chest press and loaded up a cool hundred and proceeded to grunt like he was hefting a car off his chest. I was wondering when he was going to shtein himself.
He let out a primal scream on his last rep and the hundred pounds cam crashing down.
Way to kick ass today, pal!
Does Todd workout in your gym?
Yeah I grunt when I get my swell on at the gym. That's because everyone needs to see how ripped and tan I am.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 15, 2010, 05:11:42 PM
Does Todd workout in your gym?
lol...Todd can lift a hundred?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2010, 05:10:22 PM
I'm on the elliptical and there's Senor Grunts with his bottle of protein shake and weight belt hammering away with the dumbbells. He's curling the 35's rapidly. He'd complete his set and stroll around the whole gym pumping himself up. Then he moved over to the chest press and loaded up a cool hundred and proceeded to grunt like he was hefting a car off his chest. I was wondering when he was going to shtein himself.
Whenever people are loud as shtein like that, it's rarely even impressive. I don't get it. Yeah man, start screaming when you're doing the leg press with 3 plates on each side.
Ever seen Gallon Guy? Someone who carries around a gallon of water around wherever they go, because whatever ridiculous creatine they take requires drinking a ton of water so they don't get cramps or diarrhea.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 15, 2010, 05:23:28 PM
Yeah I grunt when I get my swell on at the gym. That's because everyone needs to see how ripped jacked and tan I am.
Quote from: Dillen on August 15, 2010, 05:48:28 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 15, 2010, 05:10:22 PM
I'm on the elliptical and there's Senor Grunts with his bottle of protein shake and weight belt hammering away with the dumbbells. He's curling the 35's rapidly. He'd complete his set and stroll around the whole gym pumping himself up. Then he moved over to the chest press and loaded up a cool hundred and proceeded to grunt like he was hefting a car off his chest. I was wondering when he was going to shtein himself.
Whenever people are loud as shtein like that, it's rarely even impressive. I don't get it. Yeah man, start screaming when you're doing the leg press with 3 plates on each side.
Ever seen Gallon Guy? Someone who carries around a gallon of water around wherever they go, because whatever ridiculous creatine they take requires drinking a ton of water so they don't get cramps or diarrhea.
Oh yeah, when I had a membership at the Y it was ten times worse. It seemed like every dude in the free weight area felt the need to scream, grunt or yell. There was one dude who sounded like he was having sex with the weights.
lol...one of my customers was like that. He always had that water with him and would sweat like a pig. And he was sitting on an office.
Much like when I travel, I like to people watch at the gym to see how ridiculous people are.
So this workout thing I've been doing is pretty dope. I've built a good amount of muscle without gaining any bulk and it literally only takes up about an hour and 45 minutes of my week, travel time included. Only bad part is that I think I Dobbsed my groin last week and now my chicken legs are all owie.
Update.
Pros: I'm stronger and I have more muscle on my frame despite a reduction in actual time spent at the gym. My stomach is shedding the small layer of beer that had been keeping it warm for the last few years and the first traces of ab muscle are actually showing through.
Cons: I'm still skinny as shtein and have actually lost a few pounds which is definitely NOT how the workout is advertised. This might have something to do with the fact that I've cut carbs way down and am eating more meals over the course of the day but between the workouts and the increase in calories I expected to gain some weight, not lose it. Also, because I'm eating so much, when I'm not eating I'm constantly hungry. Like gnaw your arm off hungry and I know that when I stop this whole thing my appetite will remain and I will balloon. Not cool.
Add a half gallon of ice cream a day. You'll be fine.
I don't feel like you're being very helpful.
i worked out on the magic bullet at the tailgate sunday.
The sex toy?
Haaaaaa. Actually the blender but i guess after using it enough any heffer could look sexy.
So this thing that I've been doing has improved my strength a lot (bench weight increase of 20% or so, leg press weight increase of over 30%, bicep curl weight increase of 25%, etc) which is fine, but I'm not any bigger so I might start switching things up.
No one cares.
More interestingly, the dude that inspired all of this (Tim Ferriss of The 4-Hour Work Week fame) just released his second book called The 4 Hour Body which predictably chronicles his experiences doing various experiments with his body.
No one cares.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 27, 2010, 11:39:42 AM
So this thing that I've been doing has improved my strength a lot (bench weight increase of 20% or so, leg press weight increase of over 30%, bicep curl weight increase of 25%, etc) which is fine, but I'm not any bigger so I might start switching things up.
No one cares.
More interestingly, the dude that inspired all of this (Tim Ferriss of The 4-Hour Work Week fame) just released his second book called The 4 Hour Body which predictably chronicles his experiments in doing various experiments with his body.
No one cares.
I ran 5 miles in 35 minutes or so last night, wanna fight?
I haven't worked out since July. Right now I have the flu.
No one cares.
Quote from: charlie on October 27, 2010, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 27, 2010, 11:39:42 AM
So this thing that I've been doing has improved my strength a lot (bench weight increase of 20% or so, leg press weight increase of over 30%, bicep curl weight increase of 25%, etc) which is fine, but I'm not any bigger so I might start switching things up.
No one cares.
More interestingly, the dude that inspired all of this (Tim Ferriss of The 4-Hour Work Week fame) just released his second book called The 4 Hour Body which predictably chronicles his experiences doing various experiments with his body.
No one cares.
I ran 5 miles in 35 minutes or so last night, wanna fight?
I ran two miles last week and it was the first time I've run in about 2 and a half months. Took me slightly under 14 minutes. So yes, I would like to fight.
I hope none of you sluts are as disgusting as this farg I encountered the other day...
The little batch of trailer trash was running on the treadmill without a shirt on and sweating like a pig. I mean, I sweat like one too. But the difference is when I am finished with a machine I use the disinfectant wipes and also towel myself off throughout the exercise.
This fargin guy gets done, steps off the treadmill and leaves it drenched in his sweat. Goes and picks up a face towel, wipes himself down and drops the towel on the floor by the door on the way out.
White people.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
I hope none of you sluts are as disgusting as this farg I encountered the other day...
The little batch of trailer trash was running on the treadmill without a shirt on and sweating like a pig. I mean, I sweat like one too. But the difference is when I am finished with a machine I use the disinfectant wipes and also towel myself off throughout the exercise.
This fargin guy gets done, steps off the treadmill and leaves it drenched in his sweat. Goes and picks up a face towel, wipes himself down and drops the towel on the floor by the door on the way out.
and you said nothing to him because you're a puss
pay day = ginned up dio.
yes!
Let's encourage him and see where this goes.
as always i'm hoping for the nearest post office or abortion clinic...
Quote from: Diomedes on October 28, 2010, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 27, 2010, 08:09:22 PM
I hope none of you sluts are as disgusting as this farg I encountered the other day...
The little batch of trailer trash was running on the treadmill without a shirt on and sweating like a pig. I mean, I sweat like one too. But the difference is when I am finished with a machine I use the disinfectant wipes and also towel myself off throughout the exercise.
This fargin guy gets done, steps off the treadmill and leaves it drenched in his sweat. Goes and picks up a face towel, wipes himself down and drops the towel on the floor by the door on the way out.
and you said nothing to him because you're a puss
Actually I did. And he had earphones in so did not acknowledge. But today I caught him without and told him to quit being a disgusting pig because other people would like to use the shtein too.
His response...chill out man, I'm sorry.
should of punched him in his gut and stole his ipod. violence first, talk it out second.
I thought about it and wished he would fall off the treadmill
you cant wiggle your nose and make things disappear anymore these days phreak. affirmative action son.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 29, 2010, 01:42:56 PM
I just finished reading The 4 Hour Work Week and, in addition to being fairly inspirational for those of us who are 9-5 cube-jockeys, the author talks several times about his experiments in muscle gain and weight loss (the dude has tons of time on his hands and frequently does these types of 'what can I make my body do' types of experiments).
The site that he maintains in conjunction with the book has these three posts about weight loss and muscle gain. Fascinating stuff:
Science. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2008/02/25/the-science-of-fat-loss-why-a-calorie-isnt-always-a-calorie/)
Losing fat. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/)
Gaining muscle. (http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/29/from-geek-to-freak-how-i-gained-34-lbs-of-muscle-in-4-weeks/)
Anyone looking for a great farging diet try the losing fat one. The foods you can eat are great, I have a ton of energy, and you get one cheat day where you can eat anything you want. Today I had a double cheeseburger and fries from 5 guys and a large ice cream (Peanut Butter Cup) from Cold Stone. Lost 6 lbs. this week.
i'm down about 25 pounds since my gall bladder melted in august. it's hard as hell to eat right all the time and i really need to get some more cardio in, but i feel 100 times better than i did when i was fat(ter).
Good to hear, Jef. How much do you wanna lose?
Thanks for bumping that Mike. I am hunting for a change of pace. I'm back on protein and hydroxycut hardcore. I took three weeks off when we were in vacation over thanksgiving and will be out of country againfor Christmas. I maintained while away but three weeks without any gym killed my momentum obviously. But I needed a break. 6 days a week for 6 months gets old.
I'm off to go hit it right now.
Back to the gym today. 30 minutes of cardio and some light chest. Following the diet plan Russell posted a few months back (slow carb diet). Trying to get back into a routine.
I'm eating a bag of Reese's as we speak. Since my trip to mexico in november my diet has gone to shtein and I've been to the gym all of 4 times. But damn did I look fine while I was getting gringo style drunk on the beach.
Once in a while I feel the need to pop in and tell you iceholes that this is the weakest shtein on earth. Bunch of goddamn women chatting about nothing.
You just summed up the entire board
Awhile back I mentioned the guy who comes into the gym here and take his shoes off to work out barefoot...
He eclipsed that nastiness today.
He comes in with his loads of shtein, kettlebells and mats and protein drinks, and takes up a whole area to himself. He kicks off his shoes and starts working out.
The gym provides washcloths as sweat-towels for the people who don't bring their own towels. This farging pig was hocking loogies and spitting into the towels.
What causes people to be so disgusting? I mean shtein...use common courtesy and manners!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 30, 2011, 02:40:03 PM
What causes people to be so disgusting?
I'll answer your question with a question.
Are you in Texas?
Yeah but this farm animal is from Colorado...I saw the plates on his car when he pulled up
I haven't lost much more weight but I have toned up quite a bit. I'm back in my 36 pants to stay. That's good enough since I'll be dead sooner or later.
God Jesus please the former.
Quote from: Rome on January 30, 2011, 03:19:34 PM
I haven't lost much more weight but I have toned up quite a bit. I'm back in my 36 pants to stay. That's good enough since I'll be dead sooner or later.
The only people who could possibly care about this are the pallbearers at your funeral.
I got bored with my apartment gym a few weeks ago and joined a 24hr Fitness. Its been nice having a large variety of equipment and I've been having great workouts. I decided to try one of their classes tonight - it is called Training Camp and the instructor was a camp body with the Texans several years ago. Holy shtein did it kick my ass. I haven't worked out like that since my senior year of HS.
24 hour fitness is great. There is one about a mile and a half from my house right on the water. Every piece of equipment you can think of although the one I go to is more cardio oriented. They installed high def flat screens about a year ago both in the weight training area and the cardio area. Great to workout and watch a game. There is some tool who turns one of the TVs on the Military Channel all the time That's always pleasant watching footage from the Holocaust or the Battle for Okinawa as your doing curls.
I have that unlimited membership so I can use any 24 Hour in the US. Helps when you travel. I'm lucky as I travel mainly to Denver and California where there are a ton of 24 Hours.
I started running again even though it absolutely kills my knees, back and hip. I'm not marathon training or any of that stupid shtein, just getting myself back in shape so that I can do my stupid 3 mile run and then reenlist and move to San Diego. I haven't run since last summer so naturally, I'm experiencing some muscle pain afterwards. I'm taking glucose supplements to help with my joint pain and potassium pills because it's easier than eating a banana every day. My questions:
1. What type of vitamins/supplements can I take that will improve energy....not only during my workout, but will provide a nice pick me up for the day? Maybe something like Metabalife but cheaper.
2. For the last 2 weeks, my diet has almost exclusively consisted of oatmeal and/or yogurt for breakfast, 2 tuna fish sammiches for lunch and then a healthy dinner of either pork, chicken or fish with white rice and veggies. I've also slimmed down the portions that I eat to help lose weight, but now I'm feeling a bit sluggish as the day goes on. So what can I add/substitute in my diet that will give me the satisfaction of actually being full without making me work harder to lose weight?
I've been holding steady mostly around 195-200lbs for the better part of the last couple of years, give or take a few lbs in either direction. But I've decided that I need to get down to around 180 to improve my quality of life. I figure since I've got knee back and hip problems already, then I can only stand to benefit from dropping a little extra weight and putting less stress on them.
Suggestions? Go!
Quote from: Sgt PSN on March 21, 2011, 04:51:12 PM
I started running again even though it absolutely kills my knees, back and hip. I'm not marathon training or any of that stupid shtein, just getting myself back in shape so that I can do my stupid 3 mile run and then reenlist and move to San Diego. I haven't run since last summer so naturally, I'm experiencing some muscle pain afterwards. I'm taking glucose supplements to help with my joint pain and potassium pills because it's easier than eating a banana every day. My questions:
1. What type of vitamins/supplements can I take that will improve energy....not only during my workout, but will provide a nice pick me up for the day? Maybe something like Metabalife but cheaper.
2. For the last 2 weeks, my diet has almost exclusively consisted of oatmeal and/or yogurt for breakfast, 2 tuna fish sammiches for lunch and then a healthy dinner of either pork, chicken or fish with white rice and veggies. I've also slimmed down the portions that I eat to help lose weight, but now I'm feeling a bit sluggish as the day goes on. So what can I add/substitute in my diet that will give me the satisfaction of actually being full without making me work harder to lose weight?
I've been holding steady mostly around 195-200lbs for the better part of the last couple of years, give or take a few lbs in either direction. But I've decided that I need to get down to around 180 to improve my quality of life. I figure since I've got knee back and hip problems already, then I can only stand to benefit from dropping a little extra weight and putting less stress on them.
Suggestions? Go!
There really aren't many across the board supplements that are good for everyone as far as picking up energy levels, and it usually takes someone with some expertise to get to the underlying causes, which are different for different people (could be adrenal, testosterone/estrogen ratio/thyroid/blood sugar metabolism, iron deficiency etc. etc. and what helps one person could be bad for another). I'd stay away from products using caffeine or other stimulants, they can tax the adrenals.
I think Coenzyme Q-10 is a good across the board supp though for energy (maybe 100mg twice a day) unless you happen to be taking blood thinners. It helps with oxygenation and Q10 absorption is best when taken with a little oil. Since many people don't get enough vitamin D unless you get lots of sun, try 2000 units vit D with the Q10. Vit D deficiency is common and affects many things. Q10 is also a good antioxidant. It has also gotten a good bit cheaper in the last couple of years.
To be more filling maybe add more veggies (fiber), especially for lunch, and stay well hydrated. Do you know if you need the potassium? Maybe if you are sweating a whole lot or on a diuretic, but unless you've needed it in the past you probably don't need it now (take with plenty of water and with a meal if you do). If you take potassium with a nsaid (motrin, advil etc) it can be really hard on the stomach and cause problems over time.
Some people get good results from Glucosamine/chondroitin, others not, but probably no harm in using it for a few weeks as you get in shape.
Maybe split some of your cardio with another aerobic exercise that is easier on the knees like swimming, eliptical and such, and put it together near the end of training for the 3 miles.
Alcohol in other than small amounts isn't good for training as you probably know, but I think the American Academy of Cardiovascular Medicine found in several well designed studies that Makers Mark is an exception.
I've found a real hot bath or sauna/steam room if you have access is good for the muscle pain, and if taken at night helps getting good sleep.
If you have knee, back and hip problems already you can google things like anti-inflammatory diets. Diet is huge and some foods can aggravate or help inflammatory/degenerative/arthritic conditions, and is usually a bit different for each person.
If you're working out, you may want to look at percent body fat as well as just dropping weight. If you convert some fat weight to muscle weight you may not need to get your total weight as low.
Sarge
If you're having trouble with your muscles/joints etc. try taking flaxseed oils with omega 3 fatty acids. A lot of people will say to take fish oil but I like flaxseed oil better. It cushions your joints.
You're sluggish because you're taking too many simple carbs in. Try adding more protein to your diet and subtracting some of the simple carbs. Simple carbs are fine in the morning to give the body a boost but too many throughout the day will leave you with that sluggish feeling.
I dropped about 15-20 lbs. since the beginning of the year without working out. I used Tim Ferris's slow carb diet. Today was my first day at the gym. I used to do 30 minutes of cardio and another 30 minutes of weights. I changed all of that up, now I'm 15 minutes cardio, 15 minutes of natural movements like air squats/push ups/pull ups, then another 15 minutes of cardio. My old routine was mundane and boring.
I'm currently taking fish oil pills, but that's mostly to help combat a high cholesterol problem. Still might give flaxseed oils a try though. Glucosamine is helping the joints but am open to damn near any option that will help ease the pain.
Simple carbs? I think I remember hearing about that in high school. I'll be googling that tonight to see what I need to remove/reduce in my diet and what I can sub in.
My "workout" is fairly simple. I sit in the sauna for about 10-15 minutes because my joints are like the Tin Man when I get up in the morning. So sitting in there helps loosen me up and allows me to get a good stretch. Then I'm on the treadmill for about 20 minutes (I will increase my time/distance as my stamina and endurance return). Then back to the sauna for 10 minutes to stretch. Then situps/crunches, pushups and pullups. Then back on the treadmill for 8 minutes. Next week I'll be looking to go up to about 23 min to start and then 10 min to finish.
I've been doing this for 2 weeks now every Mon, Wed, Fri. This week, I'll continue that routine but I'm also adding a bike on Tue and Thur. I'll start out easy.....probably 5 miles and then work my way up from there. Once it gets warmer I'm going to start running in the pool and doing a little less on the treadmill.
Quote from: SD on March 21, 2011, 07:15:48 PM
Sarge
If you're having trouble with your muscles/joints etc. try taking flaxseed oils with omega 3 fatty acids. A lot of people will say to take fish oil but I like flaxseed oil better. It cushions your joints.
You're sluggish because you're taking too many simple carbs in. Try adding more protein to your diet and subtracting some of the simple carbs. Simple carbs are fine in the morning to give the body a boost but too many throughout the day will leave you with that sluggish feeling.
I dropped about 15-20 lbs. since the beginning of the year without working out. I used Tim Ferris's slow carb diet. Today was my first day at the gym. I used to do 30 minutes of cardio and another 30 minutes of weights. I changed all of that up, now I'm 15 minutes cardio, 15 minutes of natural movements like air squats/push ups/pull ups, then another 15 minutes of cardio. My old routine was mundane and boring.
Taking omega-3 oils like from fish is probably a very good idea but flaxseed oil could be a bad idea. Flax also has omega-6 fatty acids which can be metabolized into proinflammatory or anti-inflammatory compounds, it just depends on how that individual processes them.
I've been working out 5-6 days a week for about a month and trying to eat better at the same time. I've only lost like 2-3 pounds but at least an inch off of my waist. Most of my pants are size 36, but my actual waist measurement is 38.5. Then, I bought a new pair of jeans today, and all the 36's were too big, so I got a 34. Seriously, what the farg?
But anyway, I feel much better getting my ass moving. And I know how much you all care, so there you go.
Sarge, agree with Eagaholic. Throw some elliptical workouts in there. If your back, hip, knees are sore the elliptical machines are the best to help alleviate all that stress. I have osteoarthritis of the hip and it sucks. To young for hip replacement they tell me. I stopped running about 15 years ago. Cardio consists of surfing, bodysurfing, walking - no more than 3.5. miles per trip and lots of time on the elliptical machines at the gym. Wish I swam more because that is the best workout.
Are you stretching a lot? I just started spending more time during my workout to stretch. That really helps.
Quote from: FastFreddie on March 26, 2011, 02:32:18 PM
I've been working out 5-6 days a week for about a month and trying to eat better at the same time. I've only lost like 2-3 pounds but at least an inch off of my waist. Most of my pants are size 36, but my actual waist measurement is 38.5. Then, I bought a new pair of jeans today, and all the 36's were too big, so I got a 34. Seriously, what the farg?
But anyway, I feel much better getting my ass moving. And I know how much you all care, so there you go.
I have the same problem. All my jeans are 36, some (like the ones I'm wearing now) won't stay up without a belt. I tried on a pair of 36 dress pants for work and they were tight, so I had to move up to a 38.
http://www.mealsmatter.org/
Pretty cool/easy to use site that has a lot of good nutritional/diet info. I've never been a calorie counter or paid too much attention to what I eat...never really had to because I've always been a very active person so whatever crappy food I put in my body was burned through before it could turn into fat. The last 2 years though have been kind of bad though....minor medical issues = less activity = weight gain. So since I never had a need to pay attention to all this stuff before, I always find myself confused when reading the labels on food at the grocery store and this site explains it all pretty well. Also provides a lot of healthy recipes that look pretty good. Has tools to track your weight, what you're putting into your body and gives you a grocery list based on the different recipes you've selected. It's neat-o!
Also, it turns out that my oatmeal and tuna fish diet wasn't quite as good for me as I thought it would be.......was consuming well over 100% of my daily recommended carbs. That probably explains why I only lost 1 pound last week.
while its always nice to notice the calories that get put into your body, dont obsess over it because counting calories is not a necessity for fat loss. the last thing you want is for your body to go into starvation and craving mode because your body then trains itself to actually store fat.
your body needs good fat to lose fat. focus on the fat burning foods and should be all well and good--considering you do some form of exercise--which I think you said you do now.
When you are paying attention to the ingredients always stay away from high fructose corn syrup because its a fat storer. Also, hydogenated oil and aspartamene is awful for you. Also, everyone always says to stay away from bread, but thats not necessarily true. If its whole grain youre in good shape.
Look out for the words "refined", "bleached wheat flour", "enriched" or "fortified with".
The bread thing I already knew. I mostly try eat whole grain or whole wheat bread but every now and then I slip in a loaf of italian bread because I like it.
As for the calories, I don't think I've ever consistantly gone over 2000/day....maybe in my teens, but def not since then. Only reason I'm tracking them now is so I can see what the relation is to the calories I burn through exercise. Yesterday morning I ran about 2.25 miles and knocked out some crunches and pull ups and the estimated calories burned was just under 500. My average caloric intake since I started tracking this stuff (like a week ago) has been around 1600/day. So I adjusted my intake for the rest of the day yesterday so that I wasn't taking in 1100 more calories than I burned off through exercise. As far as I know, taking in more calories than you burn is what leads to weight gain, and burning more than you take in leads to weight loss.
So it appears I'm going to have to increase the distance and duration of my runs....like nearly double it in order to really start making a difference.
If you're looking to burn calories don't bother with crunches, they aren't going to burn shtein. Do loads and loads of interval training cardio. Cardio bores me to death so I don't do it for more than 20-30 min at a time, but it's good. If you don't do intervals you won't get as tired, sweat as much, or lose as much fat as you would in the same amount of time and distance. For example, I'd run like 3 miles on a treadmill on the same speed (7.5 or 8mph) all the way through. Compare that to changing speed constantly (7mph for 5 min, 10mph for 3 min, 3mph for a min, 8 mph for 5 min, back to 10, etc.) After the intervals I'd come out soaked in sweat even if I wound up doing the same distance over the same time. Lose more fat, lose more water weight, all that shtein. I'd assume you just want to lose your excess weight (fat and waterweight) and don't want to lose weight at all costs (losing muscle mass), so do that on your cardio and you'll be set.
Interval training has saved my ass. Seriously, no knee issues from constant pounding I'd get from long distance training and the rest periods in between the hard training makes them all the more tolerable.
It sucks getting older, though. Wait till you fargers hit your 40's. Ugh... just awful.
Also Sarge-if you're into calorie counting and tracking all the food/caloric intake you eat on a daily basis get the Myfitnesspal app. Very easy to use and keeps you in check.
This thread is a treasure trove of womanish bullshtein.
Counting calories, jesus christ.
You all do know that you're going to die, right?
You're all going to die no matter how many chin ups you do or how many calories you "take in."
Calorie counting is for Romes & women.
Just reduce your intake and eat better (read: eat more fresh fruits & vegetables & lean meats, fish & skinless chicken) plus cut down on sugar & salt.
And if you want to eat something, for god's sake, just farging eat it then work it off later.
lol - dio beat me to it.
holla.
Worse than counting them is talking about it.
This board is like a chicken shack full of hens clucking to each other about their female problems. The people who don't give a shtein...Roosters.
I'm a Rooster. Ever seen a Rooster farg a chicken?
Cluck cluck cluuuuuuck!!
Quote from: Dillen on March 29, 2011, 05:11:00 PM
If you're looking to burn calories don't bother with crunches, they aren't going to burn shtein.
I do the crunches because I have to as they are part of the physical fitness test we take every year. I do a loose version of interval training already though....jog slow for a couple minutes, then bump the speed on the treadmill up to like 10 and hold it for about a minute. Then slow down for a few and speed back up.
Quote from: reese125 on March 29, 2011, 05:37:27 PM
Also Sarge-if you're into calorie counting and tracking all the food/caloric intake you eat on a daily basis get the Myfitnesspal app. Very easy to use and keeps you in check.
I've got a similar app already. It was free and keeps tabs on what I eat and then also gives me a workout summary also.
Quote from: Diomedes on March 29, 2011, 05:46:49 PM
This thread is a treasure trove of womanish bullshtein.
Counting calories, jesus christ.
You all do know that you're going to die, right?
You're all going to die no matter how many chin ups you do or how many calories you "take in."
When my job requires me to maintain a certain weight and body fat % along with a higher level of physical fitness than your typical ditch digger, then yeah, I'm going to keep better track of what I'm eating and how it's affecting my body. Because if I end up being overweight, body fat or unable to pass my fitness test, then it's no reenlistment for me, which puts me out of a job in 6 months and costs me some $$ in my pension. That loss of income will probably force me to cancel the service on the directv receiver in my bedroom.
Not to mention that this arthritis in my knees and hip is absolutely killing me, so it would definitely be beneficial to my long term health to take better charge of exactly what I'm eating to keep the weight down because hours of running and other physical activities simply isn't in the cards for me anymore. So while eating what I want and just working it off later has worked for me in the past, it's just not possible for me right now and probably won't be ever again.
I don't care if a change in diet increases my life expectancy, just as long as it helps ease some of the pain and stress that my body goes through on a daily basis for however long I'm around.
In short, farg off.
You really need to learn to post this:
Nuh uh...
Ha....you sit in an office all day and watch your calories.
I work for a living and eat whatever I want.
Winner: DIOMEDES
I work for the Gubment.
Winner: Well, still DIOMEDES...
Sarge
here's a great way to watch what you eat, still be able to eat carbs in the form of beans, and keep your protein intake high. You also get one cheat day where you can eat whatever you want. Best of all, no calorie counting:
http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/
I follow this plan as a means to shed fat and maintain lean muscle. Down 2 pant sizes in 3 months with very little gym time.
Ha. SD loves him some slow carb Tim Ferriss shtein.
what can I say...it works and I don't feel like a fag.
Don't worry. You're still not hetero in my book.
is that proposition?
Almost certainly.
Anyone ever use NO-Xplode? Creatine Monohydrate?
I've found creatine does make a difference with strength and will add some bulk and help a little with sports performance as well as lifting, though it does nothing for endurance. The important thing to remember is to stay well hydrated or there is some increased risk of muscle tears, strains and such. I think EAS is a good brand.
I used Creatine back in the day when i did power lifting. It definitely works if used properly.
I plan on using it in a wildly improper fashion.
I'm bored with my workouts so I'm going to try some new stuff to see what it does. I like treating my body like an amusement park.
You'll gain 7-8 pounds using Creatine. It's good for getting those extra reps up. Stay hydrated.
by properly i mean that it is not a supplement that works right away. Im sure you are doing your research, but people these days want instant results and creatine doesn't necessarily work like that. You need to use it for a while (depending on how much you take) before your cells saturate with it. You can speed up the process a bit, but I used a 30 day load when starting out. You also need a proper lifting regimen where you can measure improvements in strength gain and adjust intake. Otherwise you are throwing money down the drain.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 27, 2011, 09:14:42 AM
Anyone ever use NO-Xplode? Creatine Monohydrate?
I use N.O. Xplode every morning before going into the gym and I love it. Not only does it wake me up on slow days, but it keeps me pretty focused and helps to pump out a few extra reps. I would recommend starting it slowly until you acclimate to it, and if you are just starting to work out, give yourself some time to get your cardio in order prior to jumping into it.
I still cycle Creatine. I generally use BSN's CellMass with pretty good results. I also like CellTech's stuff, although it can burn pretty good going down. Just make sure your drink A LOT of water. I generally do an ounce of water per pound of body weight a day minimum, adding more for days I run.
By 'hydration' you guys are referring to 'Miller Lite', right?
Close enough to water.
I don't mess with those pre-workout supplements, but they definitely do help. I just don't feel like spending the money on it and I feel like they have some negative long-term effects. I got a free trial of some supplement that was both N.O and a thermogenic, my body temp went up really fast over about 10 minutes and my heart rate skyrocketed (and didn't come down for a long time), but it worked. So basically, if you're looking to treat your body like an amusement park you'll have a blast with the stuff.
Yeah I'm a little apprehensive about side effects, especially since I'm pretty twitchy as it is, but internal body experimentation sounds like something different so I'm gonna give it a try.
Day one on this crap and I am pooping a LOT.
I've never noticed my HR jump on N.O Xplode when I am resting. I wear a HR monitor every time I work out. You will feel "flush", which is the Nitric Oxide doing it's job. Again, it is something you have to get acclimated to. I would suggest a 1/4 or 1/2 serving the first week you try it. Again, I never use it if I am just doing cardio. Weights only.
Quote from: rjs246 on April 27, 2011, 11:22:41 AM
Day one on this crap and I am pooping a LOT.
That's usually an initial byproduct of drinking a lot of water, or consuming anything earlier than you are accustomed to. Are taking in a lot of protein (shakes, bars, diet?).
Actually I think it has to do with the change in diet, change in protein powder brand and new crap entering my system all happening at once.
I've basically doubled my calorie intake over the last couple of days, which sucks by the way. How do people eat this much all the time? Fatasses.
What are you trying to bulk up for summer?
I think it's obvious that he wants to look more desirable to me for next year's roadie.
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2011, 02:18:37 PM
What are you trying to bulk up for summer?
Boredom mostly.
Whatever you do stay away from Fiber One bars.
Well, unless you want to look like this... :puke
Protein bars as well....unless you want to install grunt handles on the shteinter.
I've tried various supplements over time, but I never notice enough of a difference to justify the cost or side-effects. These days, I stick to a good multi-vitamin, some extra omega 3 and C.
I am about to start using Jack3d as a PWO supplement. I am dog assed tired at the end of the day and have to fight to find the motivation to go to the gym. Like right now, I've been here for 10 hours and the last thing I want to do is go workout. But I gotta do it.
And I also use the OxyPro thermogenic fat burner as it really blocks my appetite.
Quote from: Zanshin on April 27, 2011, 04:24:16 PM
I've tried various supplements over time, but I never notice enough of a difference to justify the cost or side-effects. These days, I stick to a good multi-vitamin, some extra omega 3 and C.
New study came out yesterday that too much omega 3 causes prostate cancer:
http://fyiliving.com/health-news/omega-3-fatty-acids-linked-to-prostate-cancer/
Too much of anything is bad. Omega 3s are good for your heart and shtein just don't snort it by the gram and you'll be fine.
Quote from: SD on April 27, 2011, 07:56:40 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on April 27, 2011, 04:24:16 PM
I've tried various supplements over time, but I never notice enough of a difference to justify the cost or side-effects. These days, I stick to a good multi-vitamin, some extra omega 3 and C.
New study came out yesterday that too much omega 3 causes prostate cancer:
http://fyiliving.com/health-news/omega-3-fatty-acids-linked-to-prostate-cancer/
It doesn't mean omega-3s cause prostate cancer, it just shows there may be an association between the two. 100 percent of convicted murderers drink or have drunk water, but that doesn't mean drinking water will cause you to commit murder. Not a bad chance another study will contradict this one.
So, uh, holy shtein I've gained almost 8 pounds in a week. But I'm shteinting non-stop and I'm getting hot flashes. What the farg menopause.
I assume the prescription is more NO Xplode.
Back in February I was diagnosed with a torn ATF ligament in my ankle. Surgery was recommended and I was told to schedule it whenever I felt like it as further damage was unlikely and I only had to deal with the pain tolerance.
After three months of doing 6 days a week (with three of those being a boot camp type class at 24hr Fitness, very high impact) of exercise the pain is starting to become too much. I've been able to deal with it and its now affecting my workouts. I hate to quit and have a setback of 4-6 weeks but I think I am going to try to make it until the beginning of August to have it repaired. That would give me another six weeks before I have to shut it down.
fargin sucks.
Like pretty much anyone else who's ever really worked out, I've had shoulder problems for years. It's never been overbearing, but annoying that it's always there. About a week ago I get to the gym and on the first pullup I do, my rotator cuff flares up horribly. Since then I haven't been able to do anything upper body at all. Any time there's any pressure on my shoulder, either just grabbing a weight off the rack or pulling something from a stop, it kills. It's got to the point where laying on that side of my body in bed, opening and closing the car door hurts. I'm hesitant to get it checked out by the doctor; I recently ran into a shteinload of expensive bills and don't want another if I don't need to. I've taken some anti-inflammatory meds which have helped a little, and I've tried to be left-hand dominant for the past couple days. I've got no problem taking weeks off from the gym if it means it will get better, but I'm pretty much expecting the worst. Real excited for a nice long setback.
That sucks man. Good luck and hopefully they can give you a cortisone shot or something to help it calm down and save you the pain and expenses of going further with treatment.
With any luck, your physical therapist will be hot hot hot and she'll have to lean her titties up against you when she works on your shoulder twice a week for the next five months.
Also...this thread...TOP FIVE WORST EVER
Quote from: Dillen on July 07, 2011, 01:10:42 PM
Like pretty much anyone else who's ever really worked out, I've had shoulder problems for years. It's never been overbearing, but annoying that it's always there. About a week ago I get to the gym and on the first pullup I do, my rotator cuff flares up horribly. Since then I haven't been able to do anything upper body at all. Any time there's any pressure on my shoulder, either just grabbing a weight off the rack or pulling something from a stop, it kills. It's got to the point where laying on that side of my body in bed, opening and closing the car door hurts. I'm hesitant to get it checked out by the doctor; I recently ran into a shteinload of expensive bills and don't want another if I don't need to. I've taken some anti-inflammatory meds which have helped a little, and I've tried to be left-hand dominant for the past couple days. I've got no problem taking weeks off from the gym if it means it will get better, but I'm pretty much expecting the worst. Real excited for a nice long setback.
Sounds like it could be a bad case of bursitis. I had a similar problem a few years ago - just not on the level of pain you're experiencing.
I've lost 30lbs since mid January by just not being a fatass. Taking the stairs instead of the elevator at work, cutting out sugar in coffee, no sodas, and doing stuff around the house/property. I'm down to 200, still got a gut, but all the fat in my face/arms/legs is gone. Beer belly is next up. Have to actually work at that
So I was doing a weight-gain thing and ran through the process for about six weeks. Never worked out more than 3 times a week and was never at the gym for more than 20 minutes. Only did 6 different lifts over the course of the program:
Seated bench: started with 12 reps at 130 lbs, currently at 9 reps at 230.
Shoulder press: started with 12 reps at 65 lbs, currently at 10 reps at 135.
Standing row: started with 13 reps at 50 lbs, currently at 11 reps at 95.
Seated supplimated pull-down: 15 reps 95 lbs, 10 reps 170 lbs.
Leg press: 14 reps at 270 lbs (plus the weight of the sled), 12 reps at 490 lbs (plus the weight of the sled)
Machine stomach crunches: 12 reps at 70 lbs, 14 reps at 130.
Gained 17 pounds (which I've held steady at for 3 weeks by continuing to work out but cutting out the caloric intake) with no noticeable addition of fat that I can see.
Also, I farging shredded my hamstring this week playing lacrosse. If anyone has any tips on faster recovery of muscle injuries I'm all ears. This shtein farging hurts and I'm already sick of it after 48 hours.
What program did you use to get that kind of gains in such a short period of time?
Tim Ferriss' shtein. It's no joke. The part I left out is that I had to eat an ungodly amount of food to feed the muscle growth. As soon as I cut the calories the rate of increase of weight I could push slowed significantly, though it hasn't fully plateaued yet.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 12, 2011, 05:05:11 PM
Also, I farging shredded my hamstring this week playing lacrosse. If anyone has any tips on faster recovery of muscle injuries I'm all ears. This shtein farging hurts and I'm already sick of it after 48 hours.
Vitamin A to replenish the immune system. You wreck the immune system after vigorous excercise.
Vitamin E helps decrease the muscle soreness recovery time.
Hydrate and post event meals should consist of a 4:1 ratio of carbs to proteins in order to provide maxium recovery benefits.
Please don't bother us anymore.
Wait so I should be loading up with carbs to assist recovery? That doesn't make sense.
two words nancy:
hyperbaric chamber
They're on back order.
I know...I can send you my paper that I typed for my nutrition class...but basically you use up all the carbs stored in your muscles...so you have to replenish those first.
Then again, the paper was what advice I would give to a marathon runner before, during, and after in terms of meals, hydration, vitamins, ergogenic aids.
get some of that barry bonds ish
BALCO, the cream/the clear, Canadian doctors. Pick one.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 12, 2011, 09:00:04 PM
BALCO, the cream/the clear, Canadian doctors. Pick one.
You forgot Orodenker's healing touch.
Beer.
If that doesn't work, and there's no reason why it shouldn't, try Traumeel cream or gel. I use it fairly regularly, sometimes before and after working out and get pretty good results. Some people swear by it and get instant relief though others don't find it helps much. The caveat is ideally you aren't suppose to drink while using it or it could lessen the effectiveness, and it costs about $20 a tube. Totally worth it though for me.
No drinking? Um no.
You can drink, it just may not work as well. If you black out you won't remember anyway.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 12, 2011, 04:55:31 PM
So I was doing a weight-gain thing and ran through the process for about six weeks. Never worked out more than 3 times a week and was never at the gym for more than 20 minutes. Only did 6 different lifts over the course of the program:
Gained 17 pounds (which I've held steady at for 3 weeks by continuing to work out but cutting out the caloric intake) with no noticeable addition of fat that I can see.
That's insane. Sometimes when I have a real busy schedule and I'm pressed for time, I'll go and do only deadlifts, squats, and bench. I haven't done that in a long time, and never for an extended period like 6 weeks straight. The compound exercises like those, and the ones you did, build you up quick when you do them together.
I think I'm gonna look into this some more. I've never really cared about weight gain because putting on weight that is purely muscle has always been difficult for me, and I don't want to put on weight just for the sake of it. That being sad, I'm still lanky at 6'2" and my workouts have gotten stale so I'll change it up once my shoulder stops farging itself.
Check out Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength routine.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 18, 2011, 02:05:27 PM
Back in February I was diagnosed with a torn ATF ligament in my ankle. Surgery was recommended and I was told to schedule it whenever I felt like it as further damage was unlikely and I only had to deal with the pain tolerance.
After three months of doing 6 days a week (with three of those being a boot camp type class at 24hr Fitness, very high impact) of exercise the pain is starting to become too much. I've been able to deal with it and its now affecting my workouts. I hate to quit and have a setback of 4-6 weeks but I think I am going to try to make it until the beginning of August to have it repaired. That would give me another six weeks before I have to shut it down.
fargin sucks.
So I had the surgery a week ago. My workouts up to the surgery were awful as I could barely do anything. The damage to my ankle was more significant that originally thought. In addition to the shredded ligament I had a piece of bone chip off and tendon damage. I am in a walking boot now and it still hurts like farg.
I have to get back to doing something as I feel like I have gained weight and lost definition.
But what can I do to get in a good workout without my legs? Just upper body lifting every day?
I recommend at least 3 hours of Words With Friends and 2 hours of furious masturbation for maximum results.
lol
I wish I could ride the bike so I could play WWF and exercise at the same time
Phreak, do you have access to a pool? There are tons of exercises you can do in the pool. Even swimming laps without kicking and just using your upper body to stay afloat and move up & down the length of the pool is an incredible workout.
If getting around the gym isn't to much of a strain on your ankle, light dumbells. Flat bench, incline, decline, seated curls, tri extensions, lat pulldowns, etc. Tons of reps.
I had hernia surgery several years ago and couldn't exercise for 3 weeks. I went nuts. It was like an epiphany when the doc gave me the green light to walk and swim.
Yeah I can use the pool at my apartment complex...thats a good idea, Don. I think I will do that.
I can move around enough to do upper body and I will begin that on Monday. I feel awful and have to get back to exercising.
This weekend I will start the pool workouts and going harder on the upper body.
I am afraid to get on the scale. I dont want to see the 8-10 that I gained over the last month or so.
I got my stitches out today and it still hurts like hell.
Your such a pooh-sie. You're actually not, just felt like calling you one. Later buddy.
Muah! :-*
Maybe you can massage it for me?
Sure. I wasn't aware your ankles were penis shaped.
I'm legitimately concerned that I damaged my rectum lifting this week.
What's your rectum lifting these days?
Are you flirting with me?
At the end of February I cut back my calories to about 1900 per day and 3 weeks ago I started doing Rushfit which is a high impact aerobic program like p90X. It's kicking my ass but I'm starting to see results.
No one cares.
Ah, yes we do care. Put on 10 lbs the past year and it sucks so looking for a way to shed that excess skin. Worried about the hard core/high impact aerobic workouts after hip replacement. My problem isn't the workouts, it's the caveman mentality at every meal. Hoping once I get on the board regularly it should help burn some of the extra pounds.
Quote from: rjs246 on March 27, 2012, 01:45:38 PM
Are you flirting with me?
I don't flirt with ho's.
Also, I had worked my ass off last year to get myself back into "Marine Corps shape" only to have that work get blown to hell when they told me in Oct that I was getting out. So naturally, I didn't spend the last 6 months worrying about it. Spent the last week and a half hitting it hard though. Working out 6 days a week. Day 1 was a struggle just to complete 1.5 miles. Couldn't even run it without taking a couple of walking breaks. Today I knocked out 2.5 miles before having to finally slow down to a walk thanks to a calf cramp. Stretched it out for about a minute and then finished the last half mile fairly strong.
Haven't seen much in the weight loss department though. I've temporarily eliminated all meat from my diet except grilled chicken breast and the occasional can of tuna. I'm eating about 3-4lbs of fruit and veggies a day along with egg whites and a bagel in the morning to get some carbs before my workouts. Now I'm shteining at least 3x a day. I dropped 3.5lbs over the first 3 days and then went up a pound, down a pound and then down 3 more pounds but this morning I got on the scale and was back to within a pound of my starting weight. So basically I lost 1 pound in 10 days. That kind of sucks. Might have to start replacing the croutons on my salad with ex-lax.
Lost a total of 5lbs now. 4 more and I'm back within regs. Need to drop that in the next 7-10 days so it looks like I'll make it with no trouble. I miss steak and bacon.
I was up in the 230 range around xmas so I went on a diet. I don't weigh myself but I'm down a 2 pants size meaning I probably lost 20-25 lbs. I did Medifast, first week was the worst week of my life, every week after that has been pretty easy. Only drawback is I already have anxiety issues and their food makes you wired. Haven't worked out once either. Probably going to do it through this month then quit.
Oct-Dec was awful for me. Aside from having just been told I'm being forced out, I was also made the Toys For Tots coordinator which basically had me in my car nearly 8 hours a day covering 6400 sq miles of desert and working 14+hr days for 3 months. So not working out and not eating well at all....lots of fast food....and especially not caring since I was just told to pound sand, I was the heaviest I've ever been, which was 230lbs. I returned to my regular job in mid-Jan and immediately started losing weight but didn't put any effort into getting myself back within regs. Getting back east, close to Philly will be worth it though.
Last Tuesday I ran 3 miles in 31:17. Today I ran in 29:08. Good progress, but I'm really pissed. I have to run it in less than 28:59 in order to reenlist. Would have had it with no problem but my left foot keeps going numb around the 2.5 mile mark. So close, yet so far. I think if I knocked 2 minutes off my time in a week, I should be able to take out another 10 seconds or so in a few days. Gonna do some cardio on the bike for the next 2 days, take Friday off to rest and then try again on Saturday.
Clock is ticking...I gotta pass this run within the next week or 2.
You might try masturbating excessively (if there is such a thing) to shed those last few pounds and become lighter on your feet.
28:41 today. FARG YEAH!! Also down to 200lbs even. 3lbs to go. Gonna pop a bunch of ex lax on Monday and shtein my brains out. Good times.
197 today. My requirement to reenlist is no more than 197. Mission accomplished. Physical tomorrow morning and reenlistment paperwork will be submitted tomorrow afternoon. Should swear in sometime next week.
Nice job Sarge. I'm even more proud that you didn't go to plan Z and cut off a few inches off your wang. 10 inches just isn't good enough.
I'm also trying to make weight...for New Orleans. My goal is to look the opposite of how I did in Nashville. I will be cleaned up and fit as opposed to the bearded, big titted monster I was in Tenn. Unfortunately, I started with plan Z and cut a few inches off. Now my wang don't hang.
^^^
That cracked me up.
here's a good workout guide to help you when you get down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhl5K0mTSKY&feature=player_embedded
I've f'd up my back, and it's screwing my workouts up. I think the periformis muscle is aggravated and impacting my sciatic nerve. The way to recommended course of action is to do certain stretches and avoid sitting, walking, running, jumping, biking and prolonged standing. WTF? I guess I'm stuck with levitation.
trying to lose some belly for summer time and am through my first week of shaun t's insanity, like a P90X type of dealy but no equipment needed. shtein is intense.
Link?
google shaun t's insanity
but seriously i have all the videos is anyone wants them.
it's basically just interval training but a little more intense than most routines.
My buddy tried that and he's in decent shape...said it was farging nuts.
i've been counting calories and doing GSP Rushfit since March 1st and today I'm down a total of 31.5 pounds.
rushfit is interval training like Insanity or P990x but it's a little more strength based.
That's legit. Considering that you probably swapped out some muscle for fat, you've probably made even more progress than that from a body fat percentage perspective.
yeah, i didn't take measurements like that when i started which i kind of regret now, but i'm happy with the weight dropping
Pictures and seeing how your clothes fit tell the same story, anyway.
yeah, for sure. i'm down about 3 belt notches at this point
Good for you, Sunny. Losing weight is a bitch.
i'll be honest, this is the easiest it's been for me. it's probably a combination of getting older and not wanting to be a slob so i have more motivation but the fact that i discovered this workout program i can do from home, with just dumbbells has been a huge factor.
last summer i did a diet called the dukan, which was a high protein, no carb thing. it really worked but in the end i failed because i couldn't live not having rolls, or pasta or potatoes, shtein like that.
now, i use this iphone app called myfitnesspal and it tracks your calories and as long as you stay within your calorie allotment that day it doesn't matter what you eat. its easier for me to eat anything i want with portion control rather than eliminate and entire group of foods.
Myfitnesspal is great. Also on Android.
I can't stand the idea of calorie counting, which is probably why I can't get rid of the layer around my midsection. I've been consistently working out 4-5 days a week, but at least 3 days are primarily running - so the benefits of "muscle confusion" aren't really working in my favor.
To summarize, I know exactly what I need to do to lose weight, and I'm putting it off like the slacker that I am. Good news is my belt size is as small as its been in years, even though my weight is about 10-12 lbs into "overweight" on the body mass index.
BMI is a crock of shtein though...that tells me i should be like 185 or something, which will never, ever happen.
i hated counting calories too, and it's hard work, but that app actually makes it much easier. it uses your phone camera to scan the barcodes of products and it loads the information right in. it allows you to build recipes to tell you how many calories you are eating
I just checked, and I actually have the app installed... which means the wife installed it on her phone but never really did anything with it. So, there's that. We must be about the same height, because my cutoff on BMI is ~184 also. But you're right.. it's a crock of shtein. For instance, I think Shady McCoy is 5'11", 205. OBESE.
Nice work Sunny. I've gotten myself down to 195. I stalled for 2 weeks since my reenlistment was denied and I lost the motivation to keep going but this week I've gotten myself back on track. The good news is that I had kick started my metabolism again enough to the point where I kind of ate like crap for 2 weeks and didn't gain any weight. If I get down to 185 I'll be happy.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 18, 2012, 11:35:01 AM
Nice work Sunny. I've gotten myself down to 195. I stalled for 2 weeks since my reenlistment was denied and I lost the motivation to keep going but this week I've gotten myself back on track. The good news is that I had kick started my metabolism again enough to the point where I kind of ate like crap for 2 weeks and didn't gain any weight. If I get down to 185 I'll be happy.
Ok, wait, so are you re-enlisted or not? I can't keep planning my life around unknowns.
My cutoff is 204 (I'm 6'4"). Ha.
According to the outdated weight indexes, I'm supposed to be at 175lbs. I'm 20 pounds over that...I think I could comfortably be at 180-185 and still be the sex magnet my mom says I can be.
Just ran for the first time in almost a year. 2.5 miles. It farging SUCKED. farg that. Thing is I'm in pretty good shape because I've been active through coaching and other shtein and still lift semi-regularly, but jesus christ running after such a long break sucks. farg. farg you.
Running sucks and at times does more harm than good.
I went on a bender last weekend with the race then the MMRBQ, woke up Monday morning and figured it was time to start back at the gym. Started out with a brisk walk and some light exercise around my neighborhood then went back to the gym Tuesday. Got 5 workouts in last week and honestly feel like a new person. I really can't wait to go back.
Yeah, I've been hitting the gym more regularly in the last couple of weeks as things have slowed down with work and coaching is done for the year, and have felt great. Which is exactly what inspired me to get out and run today. farg that. I'll be running again on Tuesday though goddammit. Vanity is a motherfarger. Maybe I'll start swimming at the Y instead.
Coaching?
I had an epiphany on monday that I can't shake and that's that I'm miserable when I'm not working out. Even 20 minutes of cardio makes a world of difference. I love working out but I hate going to the gym, it's too crowded and its an extra stop on my way home. I wish I had another option aside from running. I like Sunny's idea of a p90x type of workout but I don't have enough room in my house to do something like that. I'm done with the heavy lifting which kills my joints and my back. I'm doing natural movements and high reps. Have to drop my gym ego of lifting heavier than the guy next to me the second I walk through the door. That's the hardest part.
Don't you have a new basement in your new house? P90X and Insanity-type workouts can be done in roughly 5 soft area.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 27, 2012, 12:11:16 PM
Don't you have a new basement in your new house? P90X and Insanity-type workouts can be done in roughly 5 soft area.
yeah but I don't have a TV to put down there
That's your obstacle? Go on craigslist and buy a 26" tube tv for $20 and hook up a dvd player to it.
Quote from: SD on May 27, 2012, 12:04:22 PM
Coaching?
Yes. Lacrosse. I'm much better at showing than telling so coaching keeps me really active.
Quote from: SD on May 27, 2012, 12:04:22 PM
Have to drop my gym ego of lifting heavier than the guy next to me the second I walk through the door. That's the hardest part.
Look at it this way. A great majority of the people who work out have the exact same mentality. As a result, they're always competing against each other and not themselves, so that's when they do shtein wrong and get hurt. No matter what, there will always be someone who is a hell of a lot stronger than you, and looks a hell of a lot better than you. So just do everything right and throw numbers out the window.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 27, 2012, 12:33:23 PM
That's your obstacle? Go on craigslist and buy a 26" tube tv for $20 and hook up a dvd player to it.
Or I could just pop it into my computer. The wheels are in motion.
SD if you want to send me a flash drive i can copy the program i'm doing onto it for you
Quote from: SunMo on May 29, 2012, 08:28:33 AM
SD if you want to send me a flash drive i can copy the program i'm doing onto it for you
That sounds cool, PM me your address.
My wife, who's a rock, went to a seminar a couple of weeks ago and learned about something she said would be impossible. So, of course, I tried it. I'll share, but as usual, your mileage may vary.
If you want to drop weight and clean out your system quickly, eat watermelon (and that's it) for three days. Actually, you can have watermelon (including the seeds), water, lemon and ginger....but really, it's the watermelon. It's supposed to clean your system, and flush out your kidneys and liver.
I did it as a goof, but I was pretty surprised by the results and will absolutely do it again. By the end of the first day, I had a massive headache, which I assume was from a lack of caffeine or overall detox. By the morning, I felt pretty good. By the third day, I felt absolutely awesome. I popped out of bed at 5am, completely energized and accomplished a ton over the course of the day. Was the best I had felt in years. I weighed in, and by the beginning of the third day, I was down 8 pounds which I assumed was largely water weight...but it's been over a week since then and it still hasn't come back.
I went to the gym the following day and figured I'd take it easy since I hadn't had any protein for days. But I put the weight on the bar and it felt like nothing. I was working chest and back, and for every exercise, I was able to either double the reps or add 30-40 pounds. It was crazy.
But it worked as advertised for me, in that I dropped a few pounds and it eliminated all cravings for crap.
Since watermelon isn't magic, I can only assume that I uncovered that I've been eating something that I must have a negative reaction to. In my case, I think I might not do well with wheat. So, I've been reintroducing foods other than wheat, and I seem to be maintaining the benefits.
Anyway, if you want to kickstart a diet or something, it's not a bad way to get into it, because it takes the guesswork out of your hands. Watermelon or nothing, bitch.
That sounds awful but also sort of hilarious and if it works more than a little mind-blowing.
It was, indeed, all three.
Quote from: rjs246 on May 29, 2012, 02:54:11 PM
That sounds awful but also sort of hilarious and if it works more than a little mind-blowing.
I was thinking pretty much the same thing. And I'm curious.....how much are you eating in a day? Is it an entire watermelon or a few slices or what?
I averaged about a whole watermelon a day.
My wife saw what happened, so she decided to try it. She has a faster metabolism than I do, and she also averaged about a watermelon a day. Today was her second day and she was down three pounds that she didn't need to lose.
But there's a difference between dropping weight and losing it in target areas...or did you see any excess fat leave your body as you dropped weight?
Well, you can't target weight loss. It comes off where it comes off. The one thing it absolutely does is kills any bloat your body is holding on to. I saw it most in my face, which was noticeably thinner. I'm not a tank to begin with. Essentially, I went from 185 to 176.
3 days of watermelon is a cleanse which detoxifies the colon/kidneys/liver etc. Any real weight lost is due to the calorie restriction. Probably a good way to jump start a diet but it's not a long term solution.
i need to detox after this past weekend, jesus
Just for detox purposes this doesn't sound bad. Wasn't aware you could cleanse kidneys and liver.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on May 29, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on May 29, 2012, 02:54:11 PM
That sounds awful but also sort of hilarious and if it works more than a little mind-blowing.
I was thinking pretty much the same thing. And I'm curious.....how much are you eating in a day? Is it an entire watermelon or a few slices or what?
AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, JARHEAD
Quote from: Zanshin on May 29, 2012, 03:18:42 PM
I averaged about a whole watermelon a day.
Big, oval shaped melons or the little, circular girlie ones.
Quote from: SD on May 29, 2012, 04:05:09 PM
3 days of watermelon is a cleanse which detoxifies the colon/kidneys/liver etc. Any real weight lost is due to the calorie restriction. Probably a good way to jump start a diet but it's not a long term solution.
I'll assume you're outlining that for hbionic, because that goes without saying.
Zanshin if it's the wheat you're avoiding, have you gotten yourself tested for celiac disease? Or have you eaten other foods with gluten in them and still feel fine?
I'm scoping it out across the board.
I tweaked my lower back yesterday in my training camp gym class.
Any of you guys know the best way to recover fairly quick? I've been in a good zone lately and do not want to mess with the progress.
Heat, ice, rest. Maybe a massage too.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 03, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
Heat, ice, rest. Maybe a massage too.
Pretty much...you want to rest your back but you don't want it to get too stiff...make sure you're keeping it somewhat loose. The back was meant to move and work for the rest of the body.
Thanks - I've never had any back issues before so I don't want to push it and make it worse.
I guess cardio today will be the bike and nothing else.
My cardio for today is a pack of Newports.
I borrowed the p90x set of DVD's from a guy I work with (active duty LTC, who swears by it), and did the first workout last night. Holy shtein, I can't move my arms now, if you paid me.
Not sure if I'll stick through till the end, but I'm going to try...anyone ever done this?
I am about halfway through P90X right now. I am on my third week of phase 2. It's legit. I don't go in for all of the bullshtein they sell in terms of supplments, but the gear - pull-up bar and powerstands are money and of a better quality than the shtein you buy at Dick's or Sports Authority.
I started about 40 or so days ago and was 199 (I'm 5'10), and now I'm 183 and I've gone from size 36 jeans back to my old 32s.
Did you do Plyometrics (Disc 2) last night?
I actually started on Disc 1 yesterday...the workout kind of confused me - how is it broken up?
Are you supposed to follow the DVDs in order? Or is there a program to follow? My buddy only gave me the DVDs..
I'm halfway thru a quart of Hot and Sour soup. I add chili pepper oil so it helps with the weight loss.
Quote from: DH on June 06, 2012, 10:50:29 AM
I actually started on Disc 1 yesterday...the workout kind of confused me - how is it broken up?
Are you supposed to follow the DVDs in order? Or is there a program to follow? My buddy only gave me the DVDs..
I would follow the DVDs in order for now. I will post up the phases when I get home and look into the book. Tonight, you'll do Disc 2, which is Plyometrics, or Jump Training. Are you in decent shape overall? If not, I'd recommend starting slow, it's a motherfarger of a workout.
I'd also try to get it so you do Disc 1 on Monday, 2 on Tuesday, etc. The program is based on "muscle confusion" so you'll be doing a lot of things that seem odd at first, a bit frustrating, but you'll fall into the pattern.
Phase 1, Weeks 1-3:
Monday: Legs and Back, Ab ripper
Tuesday: Plyometrics
Wednesday: Shoulders and Arms, Ab ripper
Thursday: Yoga
Friday: Legs and Back, Ab Ripper
Saturday: Kenpo
Sunday: Stretch X or rest.
If you didn't notice last night, after the MWF workouts, if you let the disc continue to play, it will roll right into the Ab Ripper workout which lasts 15 minutes.
This is the physical test I have to take for the Bozeman PD. I'm laughing at everyone they show because you'd think they just finished running the tough mudder or something based on how out of breath they are and talking about how challenging it is. The fatty at 7:33 is farging hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObQcu2BJ5KU
6 laps of this course = 1/4 mile. I've been timing myself in the 1/4 mile for the last 3 days and I'm running it in 2m30s without breaking a sweat and none of the "obstacles" in this course are physically demanding to navigate so I can't really see how this thing is wearing those people out so much.
Not much I can really do to simulate that push/pull machine, at least not with the equipment in my gym, but I don't think that's going to be very challenging. Neither are the backwards or forward falls. And the buddy drag with a 165lb dummy is a joke. We do a buddy drag as part of our combat fitness test and I have to drag someone +/- 10lbs of my own body weight 25 yds and we do that on a grass field, which offers a little more resistance.
The only variable that might make this a little more challenging for me is the fact that the altitude up there is about 4500 ft, which is about 2000 ft higher than where I am right now. I'll be getting into town 2 days before the test, so I'll acclimate a little bit but not much.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on June 06, 2012, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: DH on June 06, 2012, 10:50:29 AM
I actually started on Disc 1 yesterday...the workout kind of confused me - how is it broken up?
Are you supposed to follow the DVDs in order? Or is there a program to follow? My buddy only gave me the DVDs..
I would follow the DVDs in order for now. I will post up the phases when I get home and look into the book. Tonight, you'll do Disc 2, which is Plyometrics, or Jump Training. Are you in decent shape overall? If not, I'd recommend starting slow, it's a motherfarger of a workout.
I'd also try to get it so you do Disc 1 on Monday, 2 on Tuesday, etc. The program is based on "muscle confusion" so you'll be doing a lot of things that seem odd at first, a bit frustrating, but you'll fall into the pattern.
Thanks for the info - I'd like to think I'm in decent shape, but even still, I'm probably in the worst shape of my life. I'm about 195, and starting to feel soft.
So today, start with disc 2 and not part 2 of disc 1?
I actually thought the ab-ripper was for the second workout, so I didnt do it. Guess I'm already slacking..
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on June 06, 2012, 10:30:36 AM
I am about halfway through P90X right now. I am on my third week of phase 2. It's legit. I don't go in for all of the bullshtein they sell in terms of supplments, but the gear - pull-up bar and powerstands are money and of a better quality than the shtein you buy at Dick's or Sports Authority.
I started about 40 or so days ago and was 199 (I'm 5'10), and now I'm 183 and I've gone from size 36 jeans back to my old 32s.
Did you do Plyometrics (Disc 2) last night?
I did P90x last year and got about the same results. I went from 204lbs to 170lbs @ 90 days, size 36 to 32. I wouldn't go through the dics in order, there are 3 phases you can follow(I didn't follow their diet just ate less). I also did kempo in place of yoga... go luck with the Plyo and keep pushing play...lol
WTF Chuck Chillout sighting! You're still alive!
And he's swoll.
The trainer on the video is beyond annoying - I want to reach through the screen and punch him in his annoying face
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 08, 2012, 11:13:34 AM
WTF Chuck Chillout sighting! You're still alive!
Yeah man, I couldn't remember my password to CF. :boom
We have passwords? :paranoid
Good to see you Mr. Chillout. 8)
Whuddup, Chuck. Ha. Up Chuck.
Quote from: DH on June 06, 2012, 02:22:55 PM
Thanks for the info - I'd like to think I'm in decent shape, but even still, I'm probably in the worst shape of my life. I'm about 195, and starting to feel soft.
So today, start with disc 2 and not part 2 of disc 1?
I actually thought the ab-ripper was for the second workout, so I didnt do it. Guess I'm already slacking..
Disc 1 is an entire workout. Do the whole disc all at once. Ab Ripper is only 15 minutes of no break ab exercises that finishes Discs 1, 3, and 5.
my back has been giving me problems for the past two weeks or so. its usually stiff or sore after a workout but now it's lingering. i'm sure that it has something to do with the fact that i've been doing my morning workouts and then either swimming or playing ball in the evenings.
anybody know of good stretches to help alleviate lower back pain?
I have back problems. Seated (low sitting) stationary bike for 10-15 minutes 3-4 times a week on super-low resistance is how I keep my lower back loose (combined with stretching my hamstrings and glutes).
Upper back is trickier, but the physical therapist I went to had me do the stretches above plus used massage to help. If you don't have an in-house masseuse (peasant) use a tennis ball over the farged up areas, pinning the ball between your back and the wall and rolling it over the bad spots.
will you come be my masseuse?
If it gets me out of my day job, sweet jesus yes.
A happy ending for everyone involved.
Quote from: SunMo on June 27, 2012, 12:08:14 PM
my back has been giving me problems for the past two weeks or so. its usually stiff or sore after a workout but now it's lingering. i'm sure that it has something to do with the fact that i've been doing my morning workouts and then either swimming or playing ball in the evenings.
anybody know of good stretches to help alleviate lower back pain?
Drop to your knees (keep reading this is serious business), rest your ass on your ankles, fold your upper body forward, and stretch your arms out on the floor as far as you can and hold/keep stretching/reaching out. Focus on keeping your ass down and stretching the lower back.
Another great one is to lay flat on your back and bring your knees to your chest and hold, either both at the same time or alternate.
I'm assuming you've been to a chiropractor, next time you go ask the "doctor" what stretches you should do. If you haven't ever been, I recommend making an appointment.
Stretch your hamstrings daily and it will alleviate a lot of your back issues. The two are related. Watch your posture, especially when you're relaxing. Most importantly, don't test your lower back. I was always in the idiotic mindset that I could work through pain, with your lower back that doesn't work, it only makes things much worse.
Two good suggestions by SD and Z.
On your point about the Chiropractor Z.....I've never been...very skeptical...mostly because I feel those guys are going to farg my neck up...do I have any real reason to fear?
I don't know if you're talking to me or gthistle, but the answer is no.
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Stretch your hamstrings daily and it will alleviate a lot of your back issues. The two are related. Watch your posture, especially when you're relaxing. Most importantly, don't test your lower back. I was always in the idiotic mindset that I could work through pain, with your lower back that doesn't work, it only makes things much worse.
yeah, i'm constantly touching my toes throughout the day because it does feel better.
i've thought about the chiropractor route but i was thinking it was muscle soreness and i wasn't sure what a chiro would do for me
Quote from: Tomahawk on June 27, 2012, 01:45:57 PM
I don't know if you're talking to me or gthistle, but the answer is no.
gthistle approves of this message.
Don't fear a chiropractor, unless you think that your body being addicted to being "adjusted" by a "doctor" is a good thing.
Frankly, the type of regimen that rjs talks about is much more healthy. Make sure you keep your trouble spots loose with the correct exercises and stretches, and use the occasional massage to really work out the kinks.
I used to swear by chiropractic but have been much healthier and free from pain and stiffness since switching to other methods. I truly do believe that chiropractic therapy begets more chiropractic therapy, and it is not the best option for most people.
Quote from: SunMo on June 27, 2012, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: SD on June 27, 2012, 01:36:17 PM
Stretch your hamstrings daily and it will alleviate a lot of your back issues. The two are related. Watch your posture, especially when you're relaxing. Most importantly, don't test your lower back. I was always in the idiotic mindset that I could work through pain, with your lower back that doesn't work, it only makes things much worse.
yeah, i'm constantly touching my toes throughout the day because it does feel better.
i've thought about the chiropractor route but i was thinking it was muscle soreness and i wasn't sure what a chiro would do for me
In my case, the lower back pain, which includes muscle soreness, is caused by the muscles moving from where they're supposed to be and wrapping around the bone or some shtein which sometimes puts pressure on the nerves, causing intense pain. This usually only happens when I neglect stretching after helping a buddy move or some similar activity. I'll stretch but if it doesn't feel better in a couple days, I go to the chiro.
But like FF said, going to a chiro can become "addictive". And some of the sheistier ones will insist you come back every month until you die. If I were you, I'd see one for the an adjustment and to ask for some good stretches.
All good suggestions. I was dealing with lower back soreness a few weeks ago when I tweaked it doing an ab workout. It still stiffense up from time to time but I do a lot of stretching. The on-the-knees with your arms out in front on the floor works well as does laying flat on your back and rotating your hips so your leg rests on the floor. I do that quite a bit before I do my boot camp class.
I have never used a chiropractor but a guy I work with swears by them.
I'll just go get a massage from the little mamacita joint down the road.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on June 28, 2012, 12:42:57 AM
I have never used a chiropractor but a guy I work with swears by them.
I'll just go get a massage from the little mamacita joint down the road.
Well, congratulations to that guy for never getting the hand release bonus.
Did that watermelon thing again, and felt great again. I figure I'll do it every six weeks or so until I stop feeling great, or don't feel like doing it anymore. I'm not selling it, but I did work out an easy, great frozen drink while doing it. Made one today for kicks.
Super easy-- just take some cut watermelon and fill a blender halfway or so with it. Cut a lemon and squeeze the juice into the blender. I added the lemon pulp and a good bit of rind, too. I also added a lime in the same fashion. Fill the rest of the blender with ice, and blend to oblivion.
Pretty healthy and it tastes great. I'd even serve it to guests at a BBQ. Excellent use of two minutes and a blender.
You're a farging weirdo.
Oh, certainly. But I am telling you, that drink is somehow even more refreshing than rjs's miserable attitude.
That's hard to believe.
But...I'm three watermelons away from trying your watermelon cleanse.
I'll let you know how it goes. Can't be any worse than what I'm doing to my body now.
Have any of you guys heard of yoga? My back locked up causing such an intense pain it probably would have killed a lesser man. The chiropractor suggested taking some yoga classes so let me know how it's worked out for you.
A portion of P90X is yoga. farg all the kidding about it for women. Yoga is no joke. After P90X, I started going to a couple of classes a week with my wife. It'll help all other aspects of any kind of fitness you do. It's good shtein.
In the yoga birth class we did for our first child, I found the actual physical practice to be sound and reasonable and effective. It's tough work but I generally felt better afterwards. The trick of combining intentional relaxation and meditation with simple, strenuous physical exertion works. Yay humans, figured out something good.
But the goddamn people you have to tolerate in order to attend a class, nope. Walking talking neo-hallmark phonies. They say the most incredible stuff to one another without shame, it's awful. The instructor in that class, an openly pro-natural birth partisan, preaching about how the woman's body is created to give birth and that medical intervention is rare, blithely told the class of 20 couples as proof of this fact, that one in ten births occur without any troubles. I hear this crap and I look around, and I'm taking internal bets on which two women are going to have "troubles," when I see that everyone else is buying this shtein hook line and sinker. As if the yoga lady had just settled the case on why natural child birth is best. Now I'm looking around the room thinking, this is a farging yuppie cult. All this talk of voodoo spiritual centers in the body and people saying "How are yoooooou?" "I'm a great space right now, how are yoooouuu?"
DIE DIE DIE
I haven't been to a class yet, but when looking up the limited available offerings in my town, I got to read a bunch of stuff like this:
QuoteTammy breathes in passion for life & releases the creative vision of Heading OM Yoga. Tapping into her roots, Tamo's path is realized as being an educator & community activator infused with love of movement, nature, travel, art & music
These people sound insufferable enough that I'll probably attend a couple classes a week for a month or two, after which I'll hopefully be well-versed enough to do the shtein at home.
it sounds like you need to release the limitations of your perception energetics into the unconditionality of Universal awareness
Or you could try some yoga that's douchey in the opposite direction. (http://www.ddpyoga.com/site/index.php/en/)
So, I've been running quite a bit and am now on a training plan for a 10-miler at the end of September and potentially the Philly 1/2 the Sunday before Thanksgiving. But my weight really isn't coming off - partially expected due to being a non-muscled POS prior to working out but still continuing after the muscle gains are likely leveled off.
After watching the aforementioned documentary in the movie thread ("Forks Over Knives"), I'm considering shifting toward more of a vegetable/fruit/grain-based diet - basically cutting out all dairy except yogurt, all red meat, all shellfish, and fried foods. Will keep eating chicken, fish, and eggs; but in moderation.
So... I'm looking for all kinds of feedback, especially the hurtful hippo kind.
After getting a cholestoral check, I switched to the pink milk and cut it down to only 2 gallons a week. I quit eating beef (except for an occasional steak) and chicken, and started eating a shtein ton of fish but only the cold water variety such as halibut, cod, and salmon. I also started eating more vegetables with meals and eat them as snacks. Nonsensically, I didn't/haven't lost too much weight but am noticeably leaner.
In synopsis, you're going to die no matter what you eat.
Your synopsis doesn't match.
Less red meat, more chicken. I practically eliminated red meat for about 6 weeks and only ate grilled chicken. Lost nearly 20lbs. I also took Metabalift about 30 min before each meal.
High carbs in the morning.....bagel with egg whites, tomato slice and a few sprinkles of parm.
1 apple, 1 banana mid morning.
Grilled chicken salad/wrap for lunch.
1 apple, 1 banana mid afternoon
Another grilled chicken salad/wrap for dinner. Twice a week, I'd eat either salmon or shrimp.
Did that 6 days a week. On Sunday I'd give myself 1 "cheat meal" to eat whatever I wanted.
My diet isn't quite as strict now....basically I take the weekends off and enjoy food.
I find I do better without wheat, so I've been staying away from that. I try to get a lot of protein in the form of chicken and eggs, along with lean beef, to a lesser extent. I don't eat that many grains because I tend to do better on lower carbs, but I do get plenty in the form of fresh fruit (lot of cherries and berries lately) and vegetables (mostly broccoli, spinach and other greens). It's meant more visits to the store because of the freshness, but it seems to work for me.
I'm just amazed that THawk decided to drink less milk to get healthier. He had convinced me that 7 gallons a week was literally a totally good idea. Totally.
Literally.
Toliterally.
So what's the story behind this forks and knives shtein? I've been biting the financial bullet and eating mostly organic meats of late. According to this fancypants documentary, does that make any difference or is the point simply that meat is bad for us and shtein?
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/8093_263468167091293_1948072178_n.jpg)
I'm "grass"fed
Quote from: rjs246 on July 19, 2012, 06:57:39 AM
So what's the story behind this forks and knives shtein? I've been biting the financial bullet and eating mostly organic meats of late. According to this fancypants documentary, does that make any difference or is the point simply that meat is bad for us and shtein?
The point is that you needn't spend a lot of money on meat, because it shouldn't be the centerpiece of your diet. While "Forks Over Knives" is clearly proclaiming the benefits of a vegan diet, they are careful to say "whole foods, plant-based" diet instead. Why? Because small amounts of properly prepared meats and animal-based foods like eggs and dairy can certainly enhance your enjoyment of eating and will not undo the benefits of eating larger amounts of vegetables, fruits, and grains.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on July 17, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
A portion of P90X is yoga. farg all the kidding about it for women. Yoga is no joke. After P90X, I started going to a couple of classes a week with my wife. It'll help all other aspects of any kind of fitness you do. It's good shtein.
I found one at VCU that is led by a girl that looks like Megan Fox. I pay no attention to whoever else is in class. I do like the P90X yoga just because it is a good workout.
Uh, VCU megan fox yoga class signup details please.
Quote from: rjs246 on July 19, 2012, 05:14:10 PM
Uh, VCU megan fox yoga class signup details please.
Pervert.
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 18, 2012, 02:18:01 PM
So, I've been running quite a bit and am now on a training plan for a 10-miler at the end of September and potentially the Philly 1/2 the Sunday before Thanksgiving. But my weight really isn't coming off - partially expected due to being a non-muscled POS prior to working out but still continuing after the muscle gains are likely leveled off.
After watching the aforementioned documentary in the movie thread ("Forks Over Knives"), I'm considering shifting toward more of a vegetable/fruit/grain-based diet - basically cutting out all dairy except yogurt, all red meat, all shellfish, and fried foods. Will keep eating chicken, fish, and eggs; but in moderation.
So... I'm looking for all kinds of feedback, especially the hurtful hippo kind.
Along with fried foods the one thing I try to avoid is trans fats, possibly the most unhealthy food substance out there (other than the small amounts naturally occurring in meat and cheese). They try and trick you though. Even if the nutrition label says 0 gram trans you have to make sure the ingredients don't contain any partially hydrogenated oils (which are trans fats).
Quote from: Eagaholic on July 19, 2012, 10:34:33 PMAlong with fried foods the one thing I try to avoid is trans fats, possibly the most unhealthy food substance out there (other than the small amounts naturally occurring in meat and cheese). They try and trick you though. Even if the nutrition label says 0 gram trans you have to make sure the ingredients don't contain any partially hydrogenated oils (which are trans fats).
Thanks for the heads up
Quote from: FastFreddie on July 19, 2012, 06:54:51 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on July 19, 2012, 05:14:10 PM
Uh, VCU megan fox yoga class signup details please.
Pervert.
MCV gym noon yoga session. Have to tone out the whole inner OHM and crap, but it's worth it.
I just signed up for the Philly 1/2 in November. So while IGY and phatty are tailgating at FedEx, I'll be collapsing of a heart attack.
Been feeling like shtein the last two weeks, only been to the gym twice and couldn't put my finger on the issue. I had headaches, nausea, stomach ache, ear ache. Figured I had some 2 week virus. A few years ago I had similar symptoms and identified the problem was I was ingesting too much Splenda [sucralose]. I kicked that and was fine. Lately I've been drinking a lot of diet soda, like 3 cans a day, plus chewing gum with aspartame in it. I cut that out thursday and now I'm having withdrawal symptoms including headaches, craving diet soda, and this feeling in the back of my throat that is craving sweets. There's zero doubt in my mind aspartame is the issue. So I'm done with the artificial sweetener shtein for good. Nasty stuff and the more I research the issue the more dangerous I believe it is.
That is very wise. I still hit the diet soda occasionally, but no more than 1 a day. The missus and I use Truvia in our coffee too.
On another note, I kind of ditched the whole foods plant-based diet last night. Had Sonic for dinner, then French Dip egg rolls and fries later at the bar. All in had three hard liquor drinks and four beers. Wasn't too hard to figure out why I felt like I was going to collapse on my run this morning. Dumb dumb dumb dumb dummmmmmmmmb.
In a fit of blinding stupidity I bought a LivingSocial deal for 20 one-hour boot-camp sessions over the next six weeks. All of which are scheduled for 5:45am. What in the hell is the matter with me?
please do a complete and detailed journal for all 20 sessions.
tia.
No. I will however detail the contents and consistency of any vomit that results from this festival of horrors.
Via Instagram pics, I hope
Quote from: rjs246 on August 14, 2012, 08:52:51 AM
In a fit of blinding stupidity I bought a LivingSocial deal for 20 one-hour boot-camp sessions over the next six weeks. All of which are scheduled for 5:45am. What in the hell is the matter with me?
YOLO
What is YOLO? You farging text monkey!
Wasn't she the Chinese gymnast or diver?
Started the bootcamp classes this morning. There wasn't anything that we did that was difficult in and of itself. Doing it for an hour straight with no break (unless running several hundred yards between workouts is considered a break) was brutal.
I've basically only done three kinds of workout over the past 10 years:
- lifting weights
- running (haven't done this one in a long ass time)
- lacrosse
None of those three prepared me for this nonsense. I'd like to die now. Ok thanks bye.
The only thing that keeps you from acting like a little bitch like crying and quitting during the class is the number of women you'd have to do it in front of. Love these classes.
It was actually more dudes than women, which surprised me.
I ran 8 miles today. Running is hard. Your boot camp shtein sounds easy.
Never once in my life have I run 8 miles. Nor do I ever intend to. Running is boring and kills me knees.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 16, 2012, 12:43:46 PM
Never once in my life have I run 8 miles. Nor do I ever intend to. Running is boring and kills me knees.
Avast, me hardy! Thar be treasure don yonder way!
Haha. F you.
If he drove then he'd get to it before you, dummy.
Those boot camp classes are no joke. Once I was cleared to return to full activities following my ankle problems I got bored with my elipitcal/weights routines and started boot camp. The instructor is a former college football player and went through OTAs with the Texans so we do a ton of exercises that are sportscentric and he murders us.
so a few weeks ago i broke up with my ladyfriend (while we were on vacation) and decided i was going to lose some weight. i've run over 3 miles a day for almost a month (give or take a few days when i was too hungover) and i have lost 12 pounds.
have done nothing different with my life other than take 30 min a day to run. not really a noticeable difference to me but all of my pants are suddenly too big. pretty good feeling.
You should do the same amount of mileage but 4-5 days a week. Give your muscles time to rebuild.
More importantly, how are the single ladies liking the new Matt?
Quote from: phattymatty on August 17, 2012, 08:19:36 PM
so a few weeks ago i broke up with my ladyfriend (while we were on vacation)
Best part of this post
What did you do for the rest of the vacation?
I once made an appointment to break up in 2 months. She really didn't want to break up and I had already paid for a cruise for her birthday, then had Thanksgiving plans just after getting back to meet her family who thought we were getting serious. So, I said I'd wait. I guess the only story her Ps got was that I unladyfriended her on the ride home just after meeting them.
That should be the best and easiest way to break up with a woman.
"Hey, I think I'm going to have to unladyfriend you"
"What's that? Hey, wait, why are you running?"
Quote from: Eagaholic on August 17, 2012, 11:50:07 PM
What did you do for the rest of the vacation?
I once made an appointment to break up in 2 months. She really didn't want to break up and I had already paid for a cruise for her birthday, then had Thanksgiving plans just after getting back to meet her family who thought we were getting serious. So, I said I'd wait. I guess the only story her Ps got was that I unladyfriended her on the ride home just after meeting them.
ha, this was pretty much what happened except i wasn't smart enough to make an appointment.
i waited until the last night on purpose, but the flight home from mexico was awkward.
but it was her birthday the following weekend and then we had a wedding to go to the following weekend so when we got back we made plans to just forget about it for two weeks and "work on it" so we could enjoy the two following weekends. i lasted until the wedding and then again broke up with her the last night on the trip. we haven't talked since.
That's funny, was her name Megan?
This outdoor bootcamp thing I'm doing is run by Next Level Fitness which I just discovered is a chain. Anyone else ever done shtein through these jerks before? The women who are doing this thing are shredded and terrifying. Skeletor faces and awesome legs and no asses and they all do extra suicides and sprints over the course of the session.
In short, farg them.
The good news is that you'll be able to make a diamond of poor quality in your glutes when it's over.
So as I'm ramping up to longer runs, I finally acquired a heart rate monitor. Running intervals, I was having difficulty keeping my heart rate under 180 on the fast sections and had to literally walk to get into the low 150's on the slow sections.
What the farg do I do about this?
Stop wearing the heart monitor, obviously. I'm a problem-solver.
I was going to suggest killing yourself.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 20, 2012, 04:15:01 PM
I was going to suggest killing yourself.
Original.
Quote from: Zanshin on August 20, 2012, 04:13:59 PM
Stop wearing the heart monitor, obviously. I'm a problem-solver.
Modestly better.
Of course you two are probably two of the more health-minded on this board, so it's even more downhill from here.
not run so fast at the high point or so slow at the low points
I'm laugh out louding at the idea of me being considered health-minded rather than pathologically vane vain and horrified at the idea of ever getting fat.
Shirley you mean Carly Simon vain not wind direction vane
Shorely.
The correct response is "Don't call me Shirley." It's like you've never seen Airplane!.
Or I've seen it and didn't feel like making a reference to i... oh just shut up.
He never saw it.
He picked a bad day to start responding to posts
Quote from: rjs246 on August 20, 2012, 04:31:12 PM
I'm laugh out louding at the idea of me being considered health-minded rather than pathologically vane vain and horrified at the idea of ever getting fat.
Whatever the motivation, you're not fat.
Any of you have experience with sore/strained tendons? My biceps tendon in my left arm is killing me. Any tips for a quick recovery?
I can't afford a lot of time off, lest my wife bulk up beyond me and kick my ass. It's the tendon on the inside of my elbow between my bicep and forearm. Ice, heat?
Ice or try BioFreeze
BioFreeze is great. Hugh Douglas loves him some TigerBalm
Never tried it...I'll take a look.
the hardest part of my the last 6 months and getting in shape has been my cardio endurance. today i was able to run start to finish for 4.5 miles. my pace was only 9:11 min/mile (omg 9/11 never forget) but I was more happy about the distance and the fact that I did the whole thing without having to stop.
Cardio farging sucks. 4.5 miles is damned good. I have been in shape or sort of in shape for my whole life and I have only run 4.5 miles or more like 10 5 times total. Of course, running eats balls and I avoid it like the plagued AIDS penis that it is, but still. Well done.
Edit: After thinking about it for 5 seconds, I realized that I can probably count the number of times I've run that far on one hand.
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2012, 08:35:46 AM
the hardest part of my the last 6 months and getting in shape has been my cardio endurance. today i was able to run start to finish for 4.5 miles. my pace was only 9:11 min/mile (omg 9/11 never forget) but I was more happy about the distance and the fact that I did the whole thing without having to stop.
9:11 is really good, especially considering it's your longest distance thus far. I have no idea what some farging people are doing when they post "ran 2.5 miles in 32 minutes" on Facebook. I mean... Christ, I walk faster than that.
nice work sunny. i've been doing like 3-4 miles almost on a daily basis and just went for five a few nights ago. definitely the first time i've ever run five miles in my entire life. however until i kick this smoking habit i don't think my times will be getting any better. i was almost exactly 45 min for 5 miles so pretty much the same pace, and in my head i was flying.
That's awesome. I don't like running, but I like having run. I've been doing a lot more cycling, because I like it a lot more and because the weather has allowed it. But there will be more running in my future with the cooler months ahead. As it is now, I run 2 days a week, and ride another 3 days. I also ride my bike to the gym as a warmup, but that's not a cardio thing as much as it is more fun and productive than driving.
yeah sometimes i feel like prefontaine out there and when my app updates me on my pace it's considerably less than that and brings me back to earth
i'm sure my extra distance is at least partly attributed to the fact that it was like 50 degrees this morning. it was actually enjoyable to be outside running. even starting early in the morning during the summer sucks because it gets hot and muggy quickly and just saps your energy.
Quote from: SunMo on September 13, 2012, 09:25:47 AM
yeah sometimes i feel like prefontaine out there and when my app updates me on my pace it's considerably less than that and brings me back to earth
i'm sure my extra distance is at least partly attributed to the fact that it was like 50 degrees this morning. it was actually enjoyable to be outside running. even starting early in the morning during the summer sucks because it gets hot and muggy quickly and just saps your energy.
Couldn't agree more. The conditions make a HUGE difference.
I had a buddy who ran the Boston marathon this year and was shooting for a sub-3-hour marathon. He didn't even break 4.
(no, I'm not talking about Paul Ryan)
I'm such a loser. You guy run on a daily basis? Holy farging christ.
Gonna have to disagree with your assessment there.
I've been getting up 3-4 days a week at 5:10am to run several miles and get my ass kicked by a woman who weighs about 90 pounds.
You are not the loser here. We are the losers. Big fat losers.
Sub 10s are a great pace to run. Good job Sunny.
I ran 10 miles for the first time today and want a Goddamn cookie.
damn, that's good work.
have an oatmeal raisin on me
Sweet!
Sounds like you'll be getting there soon... and you'll probably be faster than me, as I'm one of the worst athletes in the history of athletics.
Every time I run or play basketball, I have 2 or 3 rounds of violent shteinting that start the second I stop running. Playing basketball for 2 hours turns into a 3.5 hour overall event for me. Thoughts?
Um, weird?
You're jostling the shtein loose?
loosey i remember loosey
Quote from: Dillen on September 21, 2012, 08:38:32 PM
Every time I run or play basketball, I have 2 or 3 rounds of violent shteinting that start the second I stop running. Playing basketball for 2 hours turns into a 3.5 hour overall event for me. Thoughts?
From a clinical perspective, the recommendation would be to stop playing basketball.
So if a meal has 11g of total, 1.5g of saturated, and 0g of trans, am I correct in assuming the other 9.5g are polyunsaturated or monounsaturated? Which of the unsaturated fats are better? And why don't they put those quantities on the label?
Yeah, the remaining would be 9.5 g. Both of the unsaturated fats are good. Mono lowers LDL, some say it increases HDL too. Polyunsaturateds increase heart health. Both supposedly lower the likelihood of heart attack, strokes, etc. Wouldn't say either of them are better than the other. Some labels include unsaturated on the label, most of the olive oils I've used have it. It's probably not required by the FDA to include it on the label.
I'm about to finish the Tabata bootcamp thing I've been doing. No doubt I'm in WAY better shape now than I was when I started, especially stamina-wise, but getting up at 5am 3-4 days a week has made me unbelievably irritable and my miserable attitude has been something less than refreshing as a result. Also my left knee definitely has some sort of career threatening injury as it farging hurts 24 hours a day.
So other than being unbearable to be around and the constant pain in my joints, it was a great experience. And yet for some reason I would totally do it again. What the farg? Vanity has rotted my brain. Anyway, back to normal sleep schedules and sporadic gym attendance next week, I suppose.
i ran this morning for the first time since friday and my nipples are on fire. thought they were bleeding when i got in the shower.
You should try running standing up.
Quote from: phattymatty on October 03, 2012, 10:35:39 AM
i ran this morning for the first time since friday and my nipples are on fire. thought they were bleeding when i got in the shower.
I have this silicone bar thing - looks like a small deodorant stick. Let's just say chafing happens.
A buddy of mine used to run long distances, and he'd cover his nips with band-aids as a precautionary measure.
Yes, i learned the lesson the hard way two weeks ago when i ran for 5.5 miles.
Quote from: SunMo on October 04, 2012, 09:16:38 AM
Yes, i learned the lesson the hard way two weeks ago when i ran for 5.5 miles.
It's called "Body Glide." It works really well. Costs about $10 but worth it and will last a while.
I have Astro Glide at home, might give that a whirl.
No joke, it might help a lot, especially on small runs. The problem is it probably will wear off much more quickly.
I ate tuna without mayo today.
(Flex)
so i was semi joking the other day, didn't think i'd actually start bleeding. then today...
(http://i.imgur.com/fYPbb.jpg)
That's not cool, dude. Get your ass to a doctor, pronto.
ha, what? it's just from my nips chafing my shirt. gross yes but from what i hear its pretty standard for long distances when you're still kinda new to it.
I see Satan in that photo.
Anyone else?
Not satan, but lactating Kool-Aid
Looks like someone's got a new job as an inner city wetnurse.
Quote from: Rome on October 06, 2012, 11:45:57 AM
I see Satan in that photo.
Anyone else?
Ha...now that you mention it...it is a creepy pic.
I'm also picturing Phatty bleeding at the nips...like a severed artery at each one.
Dude. Get Body Glide. Or at least band-aids. Holy shtein.
ha, i did today. thats not a regular occurance, first time. pretty embarrassing once i finally noticed...was trying to hide it with my towel and my phone. at least i found out that my nipple limit is 6 miles.
http://www.elitefeet.com/men-dont-forget-you-have-nipples
Surfers got serious tit rash from the wax on the board back in the day but this is some gnarly shtein. Hopefully the running world will invent a rash guard.
The only explanation I can think of is that Phatty's got some really long nipples.
Well not anymore, at least.
Just wear some pasties like the strippers in PA.
Strippers in Pennsylvania can't show nip? PA prudes
Quote from: phattymatty on October 07, 2012, 08:21:50 PM
... at least i found out that my nipple limit is 6 miles.
This has to be the only time in history this sentence has been written, right?
Japan has probably used it, but with kilometers instead of miles.
hit two milestones (for me) this week.
wednesday i ran over 4 miles at an average 8:42 min/mi which felt great.
today i hit 61 lbs lost since march 1st. the grind from 50 to 60 was hard as hell. i have 14 more to my goal.
Goddamn. Nice work.
thanks buddy
I've gained about 12lbs since getting out. Farg skinny people.
Quote from: SunMo on October 12, 2012, 08:51:13 AM
today i hit 61 lbs lost since march 1st. the grind from 50 to 60 was hard as hell. i have 14 more to my goal.
HOLY shtein! That is awesome. Good for you.
Trying to shed 10 lbs. Miller Lite sucks.
Quote from: Don Ho on October 16, 2012, 03:39:28 PM
Trying to shed 10 lbs. Miller Lite sucks.
You shut your sackmagnet mouth!
Sack magnet?
rjs with the comedic gold for the day.
I'm thinking of doing the PA tough mudder in June. Anyone ever done it? I feel like the douche factor is high on these things. It looks farging intense though
I haven't but I want to. And you're right about the douches, but the truth is that any sort of fitness type event is going to have them. Sadly most people who care about being in shape are insufferable. Trust me on this, I have to live with myself and it ain't pretty.
Hey, don't be too tough on yourself...give your sweet ass a little credit.
Quote from: SunMo on October 18, 2012, 02:11:15 PM
I'm thinking of doing the PA tough mudder in June. Anyone ever done it? I feel like the douche factor is high on these things. It looks farging intense though
My bro did one last year in PA. He loved it, and his buddies are insufferable douches. So yeah, bring a knife.
I get that, for sure. I've thought about doing one, but hearing guys in the gym pump themselves up for it isn't enticing. I'm also not sure I want to pay money to workout in mud.
I feel similarly about a triathalon, but I think I'd do something like that before the mud thing, just because I think that would be one of those things that while it would suck to do, it will be awesome to have done. But some of the guys who do those things are just iceholes.
When the weather permits, I do a fair bit of cycling, primarily with a hybrid bike. When I ride, I usually go with a pair of cargo shorts because of the pockets, and either a tank or a long-sleeve tee, depending on the weather. It cracks me up whenever I pass another rider, because 9 out of 10 times, it's some seriously fat dude squeezed into full pro cyclist gear...compression shorts, matching spandex top, douche sport sunglasses....and I can only assume the goal was to look like Stay Puft Lance Armstrong. And when I say it cracks me up, I mean it makes me want to push him into traffic.
Point is, douches are everywhere.
yeah, fat people are douches too, they just aren't seen as much seeing as they are usually on their couch or at mcdonalds.
regarding the money for the mudder, i was told it's tax deductible because the money goes to Wounded Warriors.
Quote from: SunMo on October 19, 2012, 08:30:57 AM
yeah, fat people are douches too, they just aren't seen as much seeing as they are usually on their couch or at mcdonalds.
regarding the money for the mudder, i was told it's tax deductible because the money goes to Wounded Warriors.
Tough Mudder does support WWP but I don't believe your entry fee is tax deductible. Tough Mudder is a for profit company. Maybe a portion of your entry fee is donated to WWP, but that donation would come from Tough Mudder, not you.
yeah well i'm still writing it off so farg you
Quote from: SunMo on October 19, 2012, 08:30:57 AM
yeah, fat people are douches too
Good point. I suppose its just a matter of which kind of douche you can tolerate and who you'd actually want to expose your eyeballs to.
Fat people at the gym usually smell really bad.
I ran 10 miles at an 8:59/mile pace this morning. I may just survive a half marathon in 27 days after all.
That's legit dude. Seriously, congrats. H is still gonna kick your ass, though.
Nice work. Surviving is a solid initial goal.
So you ran for an hour and a half?
farg.
THAT.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 22, 2012, 01:00:11 PM
So you ran for an hour and a half?
farg.
THAT.
Congratulations on your impeccable math skills.
Quote from: Rome on October 22, 2012, 12:54:51 PM
That's legit dude. Seriously, congrats. H is still gonna kick your ass, though.
She's not running it, but your comment applies generally to every day of my life.
More importantly how are your nipples holding up?
I'm doing great in that department. A little Body Glide goes a long way toward preventing chafing.
(http://www.bodyglide.com/assets/images/cube_face_original_antichafe.jpg)
I haven't exercised in two weeks and I've lost three pounds.
Weren't you doing some kind of insane fitness challenge before that? Did you just go cold turkey when it was over?
You're weird.
Yes. Yes. And obviously.
I've been in the gym for the last month, doing mostly upper body, and I'm up above 190 now. I think I'm going to try spending the next month just running and doing squats so I can trim some fat/build leg muscle.
You know, there's some middle ground there where you do upper and lower body along with some cardio in the same week.
i'm getting frustrated that while i'm close to my goal weight, and i've dropped a few pant/shirt sizes, i cannot lose my farging gut. is there anything specifically i can do exercise wise to target that area?
Sounds like you're cursed. Since that's the case, there's no hope.
Core workouts. Probably will be of come help to have one or two personal training sessions to get an idea of what to do.
Abs, lower back, obliques, etc. Have to tighten them up to help get rid of the belly fat.
You can target that area all you want and do 7000 crunches to boot...you will have one hell of a tight core but still have a gut if you already have one
Abs are all in the diet and burning the fat. Increase the blow Mo.
What reese said.
For men ab fat is usually the last fat to go and hardest to get rid of (women it is hips and butt). It's a common frustration but having lost all that other fat means you're doing the right things. I'd think just keep at it, be patient and plenty of cardio is the best thing, at least exercise wise.
It is true that you can't target fat in specific areas like you can do with muscle. All those infomercials with the latest gut buster is a load of crap. Most of your body fat distribution pattern is genetic/hormonal though diet can effect it. Best thing with cardio is to make sure you don't push to the point of getting out of breath, which is an indicator of shifting from aerobic to anaerobic metabolism, which is actually less helpful and can sometimes be counterproductive.
Quote from: hbionic on October 22, 2012, 03:47:44 PM
Sounds like you're cursed. Since that's the case, there's no hope.
Pretty much. Genetics suck. I've been down as low as 170 and still had a gut. Keep on keeping on and don't worry about it.
I think the most effective way to get rid of fat is interval training. Instead of a running for however long at an even pace, do a full sprint for a couple minutes, into a jog, back into a sprint, jog, walk, sprint, etc. Running 2 miles on intervals like that, over a 15 minute period, is way harder than running 2 miles at an even pace over 15 minutes. It's basically the only cardio I do and my bodyfat% is probably under 10%.
Also, stop eating crap. Eat vegetables and chicken and shtein.
Quote from: SunMo on October 22, 2012, 03:37:07 PM
i'm getting frustrated that while i'm close to my goal weight, and i've dropped a few pant/shirt sizes, i cannot lose my farging gut. is there anything specifically i can do exercise wise to target that area?
12 oz curls have transformed my abs tremendously.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 22, 2012, 08:17:35 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 22, 2012, 03:37:07 PM
i'm getting frustrated that while i'm close to my goal weight, and i've dropped a few pant/shirt sizes, i cannot lose my farging gut. is there anything specifically i can do exercise wise to target that area?
12 oz curls have transformed my abs tremendously.
Explains the six pack.
Quote from: Zanshin on October 22, 2012, 03:31:40 PM
You know, there's some middle ground there where you do upper and lower body along with some cardio in the same week.
Time's been the biggest factor in my workouts...the workout I do does call for a total body workout 3 days a week (the main parts being bench and squats on mon/fri, and front squats/incline bench on wednesdays) but my school gym closes at 5:30 on Mon/Weds and 4:30 on Fri, so I often only get there with enough time for a warm up jog and then my bench and other upper body workouts (rows, lat pulldowns, etc)
I figured if i was only gonna get part of the workout in, I'd get the part in that makes me look better/more muscular. After a month, i'm supposed to move onto Step 2 of the workout but I can't find my sheet so I'm gonna go back to my football coach who put it together and get that. In the mean time I'm gonna try and get my ass in shape cardio-wise and strengthen my legs a bit, then start over on step 1 next month and do it the right way.
Deadlift. And straight legged deadlift. Deadlifts are a much better 'full body workout', especially if you're pressed for time. They're gonna do a hell lot more for your back than those iso exercises, assuming you're just starting to work out.
Also, they make your legs balloon up. Obviously.
Quote from: Dillen on October 22, 2012, 09:57:04 PM
Deadlift. And straight legged deadlift. Deadlifts are a much better 'full body workout', especially if you're pressed for time. They're gonna do a hell lot more for your back than those iso exercises, assuming you're just starting to work out.
Also, they make your legs balloon up. Obviously.
Yeah deadlifts actually take the place of the squats in the Step 2 of my workout on Monday/Fridays. Problem is, that's the only part of Step 2 I remember haha. Can't remember any of the upper body exercises from Step 2.
Quote from: Dillen on October 22, 2012, 07:52:35 PM
Also, stop eating crap. Eat vegetables and chicken and shtein.
i've gotten better at this but i can never give it up. food is my drug. the fact that i've been able to reduce myself to around 1600 net calories per day is a minor farging miracle in itself.
i pretty much knew the answer when i asked the question but i appreciate the responses. the part that sucks is i've done a shtein load of core work and my core is as solid and strong as it's ever been, it's just hidden behind a layer (albeit slowly shrinking) of awfulness.
Limiting calories is an important step, but you can increase that caloric intake if you're staying active. It's more about what you eat as opposed to how much. If you're eating lots of lean protein and vegetables and really restricting bad carbs and other crap you will continue to shed fat. Obviously you're doing the exercise part of the equation and you've already made drastic dietary changes so you know you can do it. Weight loss and fitness are more than just a calories in / calories out equation.
yeah, i know. i don't do fast food anymore as far as the chains. i still do pizza and wings probably once a week but i don't eat as much as i used to. i eat pretty square meals, always having a green veggie or salad but i still eat stuff like pasta and some beef. mostly though it's chicken and pork.
and 1600 is just my base intake for non workout days. workout days i usually get up to 2200 - 2400
If you're eating fun stuff like pretzels, pizza, wings, beer even once a week...you'll keep the gut, or at least a version of it. It's the simple carbs that keep that thing going.
Well, simple carbs and a genetic proclivity.
farg it then, i'll live with it
In an effort to continue drinking beer every single goddamned day without getting a gut I've basically stopped eating pasta and have pizza once a month or so. There are times now when the smell of a carb heavy meal actually makes my mouth water.
i know your not technically doing a low carb diet, you're just cutting them down but i did a low carb thing last summer and it worked great, i lost like 25 lbs and then i couldn't take it anymore and went back albeit cautiously (i thought) and it had such a rubber band effect on my weight. i gained everything back i lost and more. i read that is the problem with those diets, that there is something that happens to your body that once you reintroduce carbs back to your body they stick to you like glue.
that's why i figured it's better to still eat the things i want, but not as much. it's worked so much better for me.
Yeah those low carb/no carb deals are tough. I tried it way back when I first started losing and i lasted about two days. I need carbs. When I do eat bread or pasta I only use the whole wheat or whole grain stuff.
Its funny because now I cannot even stand the taste or regular white bread.
I am on my 1600cal or less diet now to drop some pounds that I picked up from my ankle being farged up and not being able to run
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 23, 2012, 01:26:52 PM
Yeah those low carb/no carb deals are tough. I tried it way back when I first started losing and i lasted about two days. I need carbs. When I do eat bread or pasta I only use the whole wheat or whole grain stuff.
Its funny because now I cannot even stand the taste or regular white bread.
This.
All the carbs I eat are wheat or grain (aside from fruits obviously). I go through 2 or 3 lbs of pasta each week, and then a lot of brown rice too. I can keep that up because I'm working out ~5x a week. Obviously if you're not working out as much I wouldn't suggest eating as much. The point is, when your level of activity high, it's not the amount you eat, it's what you eat.
Sunny if you're really serious about cutting bad foods, an easy way is just sack up and eat healthy as shtein for like a month. You'll crave them, but once you introduce them back, your body will hate you and have the most disgusting vile shteins ever for like 2 straight days. It'll be torture. Opposed to the soft-ass easy shteinting you'll experience from eating grains and vegetables.
And yeah, I can't eat regular white pasta anymore. Tastes like rubber flour. farging gross.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 23, 2012, 01:16:26 PM
In an effort to continue drinking beer every single goddamned day without getting a gut I've basically stopped eating pasta and have pizza once a month or so. There are times now when the smell of a carb heavy meal actually makes my mouth water.
Ha! You should try fat and happy.
Quote from: SunMo on October 23, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
i know your not technically doing a low carb diet, you're just cutting them down but i did a low carb thing last summer and it worked great, i lost like 25 lbs and then i couldn't take it anymore and went back albeit cautiously (i thought) and it had such a rubber band effect on my weight. i gained everything back i lost and more. i read that is the problem with those diets, that there is something that happens to your body that once you reintroduce carbs back to your body they stick to you like glue.
that's why i figured it's better to still eat the things i want, but not as much. it's worked so much better for me.
I don't do no carb but I definitely do low carb. Best thing to do is to have a cheat day once a week or at least a cheat meal, that way your body doesn't get used to the calorie and carb restriction and once you cheat you give your metabolism a boost. In other words you're keeping your body guessing.
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 23, 2012, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 23, 2012, 01:16:26 PM
In an effort to continue drinking beer every single goddamned day without getting a gut I've basically stopped eating pasta and have pizza once a month or so. There are times now when the smell of a carb heavy meal actually makes my mouth water.
Ha! You should try fat and happy.
I'd much rather be thin drunk and happy.
Good point, Dillen, about how junk food makes ya feel after going off that shtein. I'd eat pizza or nachos or something and my stomach would kill me.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 23, 2012, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: FastFreddie on October 23, 2012, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 23, 2012, 01:16:26 PM
In an effort to continue drinking beer every single goddamned day without getting a gut I've basically stopped eating pasta and have pizza once a month or so. There are times now when the smell of a carb heavy meal actually makes my mouth water.
Ha! You should try fat and happy.
You'd be happier with carbs.
I'd much rather be thin drunk and happy.
so who knew that a 10-day bender of booze and drugs would interrupt one's workout habits? actually i lost almost 5 pounds in that span which included new orleans but i just tried to run and it's like i stopped for months.
I haven't done one thing that could reasonably be called a workout in 6 or 7 weeks. Nothing. The idea of starting up again makes me sleepy.
i've hit a plateau for sure. i'm still working out 6 days a week but i've only lost 3 pounds in the past month. my eating has gotten worse from where it was at the beginning of this. cheat more here, go over my goal there, and a lot more beer lately. so, i'm sure if i stop that it will help, but i don't wanna, so there's that.
I'm running the Philly half marathon on Sunday morning. I'm not ready to break 2:00, so I'm going to take it easy and finish in 2:15. Then, I get to pass out half dead and wake up just in time to watch the Eagles go to 3-7. YAY!
Aside from me finishing in 2:11:36, my last post was accurate. Also, I literally got to give Mike Nutter a high five.
Congrats dude
Do any of you meatheads use supplements? I just started using the pre-workout powdered drink mix supplements NO XPLODE and Dagger and was surprised by the effectiveness in how the extra energy translated into lifting power, and am also a huge fan of the results. Please reply with recommendations of preferred supplements.
I used NO XPLODE for a little while. Watch out for the side effects. I know people who's balls hurt, got the shteins, and got depressed from the shtein. My buddy gave me a weeks worth to try so I didn't notice many side effects.
Definately go slow with it. I think the bottle says two scoops. I started with a 1/4 and worked my way up. Even still I stopped using it when I would get light headed after a set. If you like the extra "pump" but not the caffeine overdrive, looked into NITRIX.
started up another rushfit round monday after taking a month off and getting fat over the holidays. good farging lord my hamstrings are screaming.
I finally decided to break out Kinect Your Shape. Apparently myshape is round. Holy crap after a 40 minute workout, i was ready to die, and eat potato chips.
NO XPLODE and Creatine are the only supplements I use when I'm loading. And yes, the results are ridiculous. SD is right, the side effects of NO XPLODE can be a little off-putting which makes sense since the FDA hasn't even approved it as a product yet but jesus does that shtein give you an extra boost when you're lifting.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on January 10, 2013, 06:32:00 PM
Definately go slow with it. I think the bottle says two scoops. I started with a 1/4 and worked my way up. Even still I stopped using it when I would get light headed after a set. If you like the extra "pump" but not the caffeine overdrive, looked into NITRIX.
Thanks, I was curious about NO Xplode until I saw how much caffeine it had. I use a branch chain AA powder that tastes like shtein (next time I'll look for it in caps).
Does anyone use HMB? I've used it off and on and seemed to see some results but don't know if it justifies the price. Anyone use it?
I find glutamine really helps with recovery time, I can probably do a workout a full day earlier using it.
My old gym was overrun by dumbass kids who thought they were the shtein, so after a couple months of that I finally changed gyms. Got a membership to a powerlifting gym where everyone is farging enormous, $138 for a full year (they have their own supplement store where they make all their $$, so membership can be cheap). It's ridiculous. Everyone is 6'3 250 of muscle. There's this dude named Mensing who looks like he's the last remaining ancestor of the Norse, who deadlifts 9 plates to a side.
So needless to say, I am never going to another gym again.
I just signed up for the Tough Mudder in Philly on 1 June.
Have any of you guys ever done this before? I have a few friends who did it, and it looked pretty friggin intense.
Even when I was a grunt and got paid to do that type of stuff, it still sucked. I can't imagine how awful it would be if I did it at a cost out of my own pocket.
Have fun.
Quote from: DH on January 23, 2013, 01:50:14 PM
I just signed up for the Tough Mudder in Philly on 1 June.
Have any of you guys ever done this before? I have a few friends who did it, and it looked pretty friggin intense.
im debating about signing up for this. have been for awhile, can't seem to push myself to actually do it though
I've been the same way - a guy I work with came into my office this morning and asked if I wanted to join his team, so I figured if not now, when. If nothing else, it will give me a reason to train, and will hopefully keep me motivated throughout. I was going to run a half marathon up at West Point this summer, but this seems like a lot more fun.
Fwiw, I have several friends who run them and they think it's awesome.
I've actually met you and I'm pretty sure you don't have several friends.
None that I'd feel comfortable introducing you to.
Loved your pic of Hbionic with the green mudmask. You guys make a cute couple.
March 17 - Tobacco Rd 1/2 marathon
April 20 - Rugged Maniac
Early Nov - City of Oaks 1/2 marathon
Late Nov - Philly 1/2 marathon (maybe I'll get to high five Nutter again)
January 2014 - Disney marathon
Quote from: Zanshin on January 23, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
Loved your pic of Hbionic with the green mudmask. You guys make a cute couple.
Ha!
How about tomorow you guys pay me money so you can come to my site and remove 8 frozen inches off 800 square feet, then poke 20 one foot diameter by three foot deep holes, and give me a tip if I let you mix 80 bags of sakrete.
It will be easier and cheaper than your tough mudder, but not much easier.
You think you're soooo tough don't ya Dio? With your tough job, and your tough words, and your tough life, and all of your tough manliness, you think you're so hot don't ya?
http://exercise.about.com/library/blbodyfatcalculator.htm
Why does this tell me I'm 14% body fat (76" height, 17.5" neck, 36" waist), but this
http://exercise.about.com/cs/fitnesstools/l/bl_bmi_results.htm?start=1£s_100=200£s_10=40£s=4£s_percent=0&feet=6&inches=4&inches_percent=0
says I'm overweight and damn near obese?
Because the Internet likes to give you options so that you can pick and choose what information you want to believe.
BMI is farging stupid. I'm 6'1 185 and that's a 24.4 BMI, where 25 is considered overweight. If anyone saw me, there's not a chance in farging hell they think I'm even close to overweight.
Bf% is more useful. At 6'4 244, a bf% of 14% is pretty farging good.
I'm 5'10" and 225 and I look like a farging Adonis.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 29, 2013, 09:20:35 AM
Because the Internet likes to give you options so that you can pick and choose what information you want to believe.
Bon jour [/statefarmcommercial]
Quote from: Dillen on January 29, 2013, 02:22:10 PM
BMI is farging stupid. I'm 6'1 185 and that's a 24.4 BMI, where 25 is considered overweight. If anyone saw me, there's not a chance in farging hell they think I'm even close to overweight.
Bf% is more useful. At 6'4 244, a bf% of 14% is pretty farging good.
With only three inputs, I question how accurate 14% is, unless all fourteen is hanging out on my gut.
I just went to the doctor for something else, and the first thing he does is check my blood pressure.
He tells me I'm borderline. 130/85
Looks like my diet and lack of exercise are going to have a major overhaul.
farg. I'll check back in 1 month from now, after I get the blood test results and takes my blood pressure again.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on January 29, 2013, 09:20:35 AM
Because the Internet likes to give you options so that you can pick and choose what information you want to believe.
according to the internet my chipped finger nail that wouldn't heal was actually the first stage of leprosy.
It's either that or a chipped fingernail. You decide!
After three months of doing literally nothing active I just finished six weeks of loading. That's the easy part, now I have to start watching what I eat and running and shtein to cut all this down. Anyone have any suggestions for making the 'cut' part of the load and cut process less annoying?
Maybe I'll just let it go and get fat. At 35 I'm finally starting to see the appeal.
^^^^^ Dillen, Z, PPinDC... I'm basically looking to you here ^^^^^
Loading = working out and eating whatever you want?
The main thing to cutting is eating stuff that is healthy, but you actually enjoy. I don't think you're entering a bodybuilding competition and trying to cut down to 5% body fat, so don't bother with anything close to the 'only eat grilled chicken and vegetables' bullshtein because then you're likely to be miserable and eat bad food anyways. You like eggs or fried egg sandwiches? When you eat them, pull the yolk out of some. Like I'll use 3 eggs to fry and put on a sandwich. Use only one whole egg and two egg whites, since the yolk contains all the egg's fat and LDL cholesterol. Barely notice the difference in taste, they're filling, good for you, and you actually enjoy them so you shouldn't feel the need to eat shtein food.
Make a lot of thick shakes. Protein, fruit, whatever. You could find a lower-fat or lower-sugar ice cream and toss half a scoop into a protein shake if you want every now and again. If you are active most of the time, half a scoop of ice cream won't kill you especially if you don't do it much. Ice creams w/ really low fat or sugars per serving are around, you just need to look. Or throw in low-fat and low-sugar yogurt into a shake. If the shakes are thick they'll fill you up, and they should control you wanting sweets, whether making a shake w/ a shtein ton of fruit or chocolate protein powder + peanut butter or something.
A problem w/ most meats is that they suck plain, and then the bbq sauce, frying oils, or whatever you use to make it taste good is horrible for you. My girl's Peruvian and introduced me to all the crazy different shtein you can do with fish. Basically, steaming, adding spices, onions and light sauces (all which have little to no calories) makes fish taste good.
Still have some beef once in awhile. I have 90/10 or 93/7 ground beef like once a week. Get any leaner than that and it tastes like wood.
Also, obviously eat whole grains or wheat instead of refined rice, pasta, bread, etc but I think you know that. Best exercises for fat burning is high-intensity interval training, which you probably already know too. Start playing lacrosse again or some shtein. Just running long distances sucks ass. Fat burners and thermogenics work really well, although I've only tried each for about a week and felt like my heart is going to explode. Curbs your appetite too.
Dillen you have joined the bang a Peruvian club, eh?
The women and food and beer are top notch.
Quote from: Dillen on January 31, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Loading = working out and eating whatever you want?
The main thing to cutting is eating stuff that is healthy, but you actually enjoy. I don't think you're entering a bodybuilding competition and trying to cut down to 5% body fat, so don't bother with anything close to the 'only eat grilled chicken and vegetables' bullshtein because then you're likely to be miserable and eat bad food anyways. You like eggs or fried egg sandwiches? When you eat them, pull the yolk out of some. Like I'll use 3 eggs to fry and put on a sandwich. Use only one whole egg and two egg whites, since the yolk contains all the egg's fat and LDL cholesterol. Barely notice the difference in taste, they're filling, good for you, and you actually enjoy them so you shouldn't feel the need to eat shtein food.
Make a lot of thick shakes. Protein, fruit, whatever. You could find a lower-fat or lower-sugar ice cream and toss half a scoop into a protein shake if you want every now and again. If you are active most of the time, half a scoop of ice cream won't kill you especially if you don't do it much. Ice creams w/ really low fat or sugars per serving are around, you just need to look. Or throw in low-fat and low-sugar yogurt into a shake. If the shakes are thick they'll fill you up, and they should control you wanting sweets, whether making a shake w/ a shtein ton of fruit or chocolate protein powder + peanut butter or something.
A problem w/ most meats is that they suck plain, and then the bbq sauce, frying oils, or whatever you use to make it taste good is horrible for you. My girl's Peruvian and introduced me to all the crazy different shtein you can do with fish. Basically, steaming, adding spices, onions and light sauces (all which have little to no calories) makes fish taste good.
Still have some beef once in awhile. I have 90/10 or 93/7 ground beef like once a week. Get any leaner than that and it tastes like wood.
Also, obviously eat whole grains or wheat instead of refined rice, pasta, bread, etc but I think you know that. Best exercises for fat burning is high-intensity interval training, which you probably already know too. Start playing lacrosse again or some shtein. Just running long distances sucks ass. Fat burners and thermogenics work really well, although I've only tried each for about a week and felt like my heart is going to explode. Curbs your appetite too.
Holy shtein that was a lot of words.
So, 'loading' in this case basically means max-lifting, taking Creatine and NO XPlode and eating more of what I usually eat, which is already a pretty healthy high protein, low carb diet. I've put on about 8 pounds of muscle and I'm just looking to cut down on water weight (creatine) and fat (beer). You're right that I'm not looking to have 5% body fat, but 10% would be nice. So basically, here's what I got out of your post... there is no shortcut and I need to drink less booze and do interval training if I want to make noticeable improvements from where I am. Both of those steps towards a healthy existence can eat my ass. So I'll just play lacrosse once the weather gets better and accept the fact that I'll always have a little soft spot in the middle.
Quote from: Dillen on January 31, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Also, obviously eat whole grains or wheat instead of refined rice, pasta, bread, etc but I think you know that. Best exercises for fat burning is high-intensity interval training, which you probably already know too. Start playing lacrosse again or some shtein. Just running long distances sucks ass. Fat burners and thermogenics work really well, although I've only tried each for about a week and felt like my heart is going to explode. Curbs your appetite too.
The pasta and bread thing is my toughest thing to do yet. I'm so focused on calories, that when I see wheat pasta actually has more calories than white, I don't want to use it. Add that to the fact that wheat doesn't taste as good as white and I don't make the chance. Intellectually, I know that your body doesn't process refined flour like it does wheat and while the calories may be higher, there are many more health benefits to wheat. I have to really make an attempt to do that.
I feel like I've plateaued with my weight loss. I've been in the same weight range since Christmas and I'm beginning to get frustrated. I do interval training, and I track my heart rate from workout to the workout and I'm being consistent in my work rate, if not increasing it in the past two weeks. Not sure what else I can do, except eat better, which sucks. I lost most of my weight by not changing my diet too much, just eating less calories. On a day I don't work out, I eat around 1600 calories. When I work out it usually goes up to 2200 or 2300. I'm thinking that I need to focus more on what I'm eating, just not the calorie content, the wheat/white pasta being an example of that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on January 31, 2013, 08:47:45 PM
Dillen you have joined the bang a Peruvian club, eh?
The women and food and beer are top notch.
Yeah. Want to get down there soon, she hasn't been in like 10 years. I think a vacation to Hawaii is in the cards in like a year so Peru's going to have to wait.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 04, 2013, 12:23:19 PM
You're right that I'm not looking to have 5% body fat, but 10% would be nice. So basically, here's what I got out of your post... there is no shortcut and I need to drink less booze and do interval training if I want to make noticeable improvements from where I am. Both of those steps towards a healthy existence can eat my ass. So I'll just play lacrosse once the weather gets better and accept the fact that I'll always have a little soft spot in the middle.
If you're already running, you might as well do interval training. The worst way to burn fat in cardio is doing it at a comfortable pace. Say for example, you run 2 miles over 16 minutes on a treadmill at steady pace. If you do the same distances over the same time in interval training, you'll get better results. Try it a couple times, you'd be surprised the difference.
You'd definitely have fun with fat burners. If nothing else, give those a shot for like two weeks and change nothing else. The stuff they do to your body is hilarious.
Quote from: SunMo on February 04, 2013, 12:31:08 PM
The pasta and bread thing is my toughest thing to do yet. I'm so focused on calories, that when I see wheat pasta actually has more calories than white, I don't want to use it. Add that to the fact that wheat doesn't taste as good as white and I don't make the chance. Intellectually, I know that your body doesn't process refined flour like it does wheat and while the calories may be higher, there are many more health benefits to wheat. I have to really make an attempt to do that.
Keep in mind the wheat and whole grains usually have significantly more fiber than the white kinds, so you're shteinting out a lot more and the net calories is lower.
Sunny, you answered your own question. Literally, you are what you eat.its not like you are packing 2000 calories worth of fruit and vegetables. A friend I know eats baked sweet potatoes instead of a standard potato. Also, she uses honey from Agave plants instead of syrup. It's all about alternatives and choices.
1600 calories is not low if they are from good sources. Otherwise, you're fooling yourself.
Quote from: SunMo on February 04, 2013, 12:31:08 PM
I feel like I've plateaued with my weight loss. I've been in the same weight range since Christmas and I'm beginning to get frustrated. I do interval training, and I track my heart rate from workout to the workout and I'm being consistent in my work rate, if not increasing it in the past two weeks. Not sure what else I can do, except eat better, which sucks. I lost most of my weight by not changing my diet too much, just eating less calories. On a day I don't work out, I eat around 1600 calories. When I work out it usually goes up to 2200 or 2300. I'm thinking that I need to focus more on what I'm eating, just not the calorie content, the wheat/white pasta being an example of that.
It's not uncommon to reach a lul in weight loss. When you first start dieting/working out/etc you tend to shed weight fairly quickly because your body is more or less in shock. It's like WTF? Then it adjusts to your new routine and diet and the weight loss starts to slow down or maybe even come to a complete halt. Not to mention that you're also starting to turn fat into muscle now and muscle weighs more than fat. So the scale says that you're not losing any weight, but you are still losing fat. And that's way more important than the number on the scale, imo.
You might want to consider lowering your calorie intake on workout days a bit, too. Try a higher carb, lower calorie diet on your work out days. When I needed to lose some weight last year, that's what I did and it seemed to work like a champ. Carbs = fuel. Fuel = energy. Energy = better workout. Better workout = higher calorie burn. Higher calorie burn = improved weight loss.
If you haven't done so already, find out what your ideal BMR (Basal Metobolic Rate) is and plan your diet/workout around that.
Example: Lets say your BMR is 2000 calories a day. That means your body needs 2000 calories a day to keep you alive. So if you consume 2000 calories during the day and your workout burns 500 calories, that leaves you with a total of 1500 for the day. So this would result in weight loss. But if you increase your caloric intake to 2500 calories on workout days and still only burn 500 calories during the course of your workout, that leaves you with 2000 calories for the day and no weight loss at all. Obviously if you took in 3000 calories and only burned off 500, you'd be left with 2500 calories and would gain weight.
Quote from: hbionic on February 04, 2013, 12:44:37 PM
Sunny, you answered your own question. Literally, you are what you eat.its not like you are packing 2000 calories worth of fruit and vegetables. A friend I know eats baked sweet potatoes instead of a standard potato. Also, she uses honey from Agave plants instead of syrup. It's all about alternatives and choices.
1600 calories is not low if they are from good sources. Otherwise, you're fooling yourself.
yeah, i get that. it worked for about a year and for losing 60 lbs but i want like 15 more. but i'm also not going to turn my diet upside down to do it because i know i won't maintain it. maybe i'm as far as i can be with what i'm willing to do. if that's the case, so be it
My go-to guy for hilarious ways to take shortcuts with changing your body is Tim Ferriss. He insists that taking one day a week to 'cheat' (translation, gorge on anything and everything) actually helps keep your body from getting used to the diet regiment that you're on, which allows you to continue losing weight beyond the point where your body would normally adjust. I see a down side to this, which is that part of changing your diet and lifestyle is psychologically detaching yourself from certain foods. Granting a 'cheat day' means that you're never totally getting away from those foods and you're never too far from just falling back into eating them all of the time. Anyway, if you've hit a plateau and don't want to totally give up the foods you love it might be something worth trying. If I remember correctly SD did it for a while and it seemed to be working.
When I train, I have a cheat day too. Sunday is my cheat day since I'll be hitting the gym the next day and don't have to worry about the food clogging up my system over an entire weekend. I'll never fully give up the foods I love. Sorry, but life without stromboli or chocolate jr's simply isn't a life worth living.
My cheat has always been steak. I'll go get a big ass steak to reward myself, but I don't go nuts with dumbness - not buttered rolls and stuff like that. I usually get a sweet potato and some steamed vegetables. I also reward myself with a good solid beer, no light shtein.
When I'm serious, my body doesn't tolerate cheat meals, let alone days. It'll respond to being good consistently, but even a cheat meal puts a serious dent in the non-cheat efforts. Everyone is different, and that's just the luck of my draw. No biggie.
...and by cheat, I mean mostly things with wheat and sugar. Those are the two things that throw the biggest monkeywrench for me.
I guess I was born lucky, but I prefer the taste of wheat to the white flour stuff. Sun, if you can't stand the wheat pasta, Barilla makes wheat based pasta that's pretty damn hard to detect. They also make it ready to eat (60 seconds in the microwave), and I keep a few of them in my desk for when I forget to bring something to work.
When I got back into the gym and started changing my eating habits a few months back, one of the first things I looked at was breakfast. I would either eat no breakfast at all, or something way too big - big bagel w/ cream cheese, etc. I was either feeling like I had a rock in my stomach by 10 or would be starving by 11. Neither option set me up for a successful remainder of the eating-day.
So, I started making fat-free yogurt based smoothies. I'll put a cup of plain, fat-free yogurt, some frozen strawberries and 2 bananas in a blender, and that's my breakfast. It fills me up, doesnt make me feel like shtein, and provides me with the proteins, etc. I thought I was getting in the cream cheese. It also makes me cognizant of what I eat the rest of the day. If I start the day out the right way, I'll usually continue throughout the day the same way. It was a small step but like I said, it really made me think about how I was eating from morning till night.
Another horrible habit I had was eating late at night, just because food was there. Cookies, cake, cereal, whatever. Now if I feel the itch to binge-snack, I'll make a smoothie, and will be full until the morning.
I'm sure it won't work for everyone, but it's been a pretty good choice for me. Since November when I really started watching my food, I've dropped from 208 to 195, and hope to maintain this weight as long as I can. I think its been mentioned here too, but the myfitnesspal app has been an incredible tracking device and even moreso, keeps me accountable. Now if I eat 7 cookies at night before bed, I feel like a total shteinhead adding the 1,000 calories in.
some good points in there DH. breakfast is key. a 2 egg omelet w/onions and any green has been solid for me
always hungry by 10am--feed on an apple (one of the best fillers out there) and some peanuts--I couldnt take eating almonds anymore--although better for you--so I take a nice handful of unsalted peanuts and Im gold for hours.
lunch was always my biggest problem--never could find anywhere to go without feeling guilty. So I go to Saladworks (pricey I know) or maybe a Qdoba and get the naked bowl with just meat, peppers, tomatoes and onions--good stuff. farg bread and you will be easily rewarded.
3:30pm-either eat some fruit, buy a Larabar (all natural and some good flavors) or even a small bag of Pop Chips. No diet coke or sports drinks--try some coconut water--good stuff. You should be fine until dinner--then portion control that.
the more fruit and veggies you have in your diet the more you make your body a fat burning machine. you start to notice that youre hungrier than ever before when you eat right--and thats a good thing. forget counting calories. pay attention to the ingredients. if you see more than 2 lines of ingredients--run. youre prob looking at tons of artificial's and fat storers that make it that much harder to digest and lose weight.
I've been starting my breakfasts lately now with flavored oatmeal (cranberries & flaxseed) and I bought a bag of dried blue berries that I throw in. That keeps me going for a couple of hours and from there, like DH said, you start off good, you tend to watch everything else you eat.
I'm drinking nothing but water. Upwards of 6-8 cup fulls a day. My fruit intake has increased 100% from zero to two or three a day, and my body has stopped rejecting vegetables.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 04, 2013, 03:31:36 PM
I guess I was born lucky, but I prefer the taste of wheat to the white flour stuff. Sun, if you can't stand the wheat pasta, Barilla makes wheat based pasta that's pretty damn hard to detect.
Barilla Plus is incredible. So much fiber, a shteinload of Omega 3's, $2 a box pretty much wherever you get it, and tastes better than all the white flour kinds. I never liked the white kinds either. Eat one box of the cheapest white pasta out there, tastes like rubber flour. Turned me off from white pasta completely.
i'll give that stuff a try. i think it's mostly mental. like if someone made me wheat pasta and i didn't know it, im willing to bet i wouldn't notice it.
Quote from: rjs246 on February 04, 2013, 01:41:02 PM
My go-to guy for hilarious ways to take shortcuts with changing your body is Tim Ferriss. He insists that taking one day a week to 'cheat' (translation, gorge on anything and everything) actually helps keep your body from getting used to the diet regiment that you're on, which allows you to continue losing weight beyond the point where your body would normally adjust. I see a down side to this, which is that part of changing your diet and lifestyle is psychologically detaching yourself from certain foods. Granting a 'cheat day' means that you're never totally getting away from those foods and you're never too far from just falling back into eating them all of the time. Anyway, if you've hit a plateau and don't want to totally give up the foods you love it might be something worth trying. If I remember correctly SD did it for a while and it seemed to be working.
I'm back on that diet with some slight variances. Instead of having a cheat day gorge-fest I limit myself to one bad meal. I'm down 15 lbs. since New Years. My diet looks like this:
Mornings:
5 servings of egg whites
3 turkey sausage links
coffee
Lunch:
black beans and grilled chicken
Dinner:
grilled chicken [usually a lot as it's also my post workout meal]
mixed veggies. I usually cook broccoli, peppers, zucchini, onions, mushrooms with a teaspoon [not table] of olive oil. I also dice up some raw tomatoes. Throw it all in a bowl with some garlic powder.
No snacking although sometimes I do cheat with some nuts.
I work out 4 days a week. I do 30 minutes cardio and 20 minutes weights. I cut my weights down and focus on higher reps.
I'm one who prefers the wheat pasta and breads to the white. I can't even eat a sandwich on normal white bread any more. Tastes like shtein.
When I was on my hard core cut years ago when I'd have my cheat day my stomach hated me. I would eat a slice or two and have bubble guts for a day.
I'm struggling with my knees right now and will likely have to have one or both drained soon. It's depressing to not be able to run or eliptical or bike like I want
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 04, 2013, 08:26:11 PM
I'm struggling with my knees right now and will likely have to have one or both drained soon. It's depressing to not be able to run or eliptical or bike like I want
Swim. It's pain to get there, get ready, get done, shower get changed, all that. But hands down it is the best cardio workout on the planet, and there is absolutely no impact.
Here's a bad ass guide I used to get back into it. I've almost completely replaced running with swimming. I actually use a nice long run on the weekends as a reward to some extent - I get away from the noise and tune out for an hour or so.
http://www.menshealth.com/mhlists/swimming_workout_guide/
Quote from: SD on February 04, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
I'm back on that diet with some slight variances. Instead of having a cheat day gorge-fest I limit myself to one bad meal. I'm down 15 lbs. since New Years. My diet looks like this:
Mornings:
5 servings of egg whites
3 turkey sausage links
coffee
5 Servings of egg whites...what determines how many servings, is it some protein intake target or just your appetite? My friend does six every morning which prompted me to ask. Oh, and I guess its a liquid? Just odd to me the concept of egg whites, but it seems like the way to go.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 05, 2013, 07:27:59 AM
Swim. It's pain to get there, get ready, get done, shower get changed, all that. But hands down it is the best cardio workout on the planet, and there is absolutely no impact.
Funny, some dude taught me how to swim at the gym in the lane next to me. Breaths, and the philosophy of swimming, just like the link explains, become a straight line and just kind of flow through the water. I used to take breaths every time my head would pop out of the water, now I breathe every 5 strokes. It's less stressful, and you feel like a pro. I agree, swimming is bad-ass, its just a hassle.
I'm sure one serving = one egg. Egg yolks have all the fat and cholesterol in an egg and about half the protein, and the whites are basically 100% protein. THey don't have to be a liquid, do whatever with them. One egg white is probably 4 g protein, ~16 calories
Quote from: hbionic on February 05, 2013, 01:08:59 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 05, 2013, 07:27:59 AM
Swim. It's pain to get there, get ready, get done, shower get changed, all that. But hands down it is the best cardio workout on the planet, and there is absolutely no impact.
Funny, some dude taught me how to swim at the gym in the lane next to me. Breaths, and the philosophy of swimming, just like the link explains, become a straight line and just kind of flow through the water. I used to take breaths every time my head would pop out of the water, now I breathe every 5 strokes. It's less stressful, and you feel like a pro. I agree, swimming is bad-ass, its just a hassle.
I kick myself in the ass as I am surrounded by the Pacific Ocean. Warm, clean (minus tsunami debris) water 365 days a year and I don't swim as part of my exercise. Love to surf, bodysurf, bodyboard etc. but there is nothing like swimming. Best workout in the world and you can do it forever. I make a pledge every year to start including it in my workout regime. That article may just get my ass in gear.
Wife and I have talked about the Stand Up Paddle Board thing. New boards and paddles are expensive but it is an incredible workout.
I was on the swim team all through elementary school and junior high, but quit the team in high school for football and because swimming is farging dumb.
Funny - I had a guy who has run multiple marathons that was going on about how swimming isn't all that different from any of the other "cardio" sports. I challenged him to swing by the pool, and he was toast after about twenty minutes.
Quote from: Tomahawk on February 05, 2013, 01:57:35 PM
I was on the swim team all through elementary school and junior high, but quit the team in high school for football and because swimming is farging dumb.
Says the man who got jacked by a hooker.
Quote from: hbionic on February 05, 2013, 01:00:22 PM
Quote from: SD on February 04, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
I'm back on that diet with some slight variances. Instead of having a cheat day gorge-fest I limit myself to one bad meal. I'm down 15 lbs. since New Years. My diet looks like this:
Mornings:
5 servings of egg whites
3 turkey sausage links
coffee
5 Servings of egg whites...what determines how many servings, is it some protein intake target or just your appetite? My friend does six every morning which prompted me to ask. Oh, and I guess its a liquid? Just odd to me the concept of egg whites, but it seems like the way to go.
I buy the liquid whites that come in the carton. Each carton has 20 servings, I go through one carton in 4 days. It's only 100 calories per 5 servings and it's pure protein. A large protein meal is a must for mornings, it gets your body up and burning fat and curbs your appetite for later in the day.
I cut coffee out of my diet altogether. I was drinking decaf as it is so I won't miss the caffeine. I was using 3 servings of creamer per cup and I'd have two cups a day which equates to 200 bad calories. I cut that out and I save 1400 calories a week.
I'm going to go to the Y and see what they're going to charge me for a membership. If I recall right they base it off your monthly gross salary but not sure of the formula of how they calculate.
They have a pool and its within walking distance of my place
2 reasons why i continue to drink coffee on my diet is it is a natural burner raising the metabolism. it not by much by any means, but with all the other good stuff i eat all day it contributes. not to mention it stunts the appetite which is another bonus.
always skim milk and a little sugar im good to go
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on February 05, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
I'm going to go to the Y and see what they're going to charge me for a membership. If I recall right they base it off your monthly gross salary but not sure of the formula of how they calculate.
They have a pool and its within walking distance of my place
Do you live near a Planet Fitness? It's $10 a month and no contract.
Yeah not too far but the opposite way from my office and house. I used them back in PA - I went to the one over in Frazer and it was good.
I use 24hr now but I want a pool to start the swimming
My room mate uses LA Fitness but it's $30 a month. He swims the shtein out of their pool.
I pay about the same for 24hr but there isn't a pool.
I just don't wanna pay 85-90 for the Y.
Quote from: PhillyPhanInDC on February 05, 2013, 02:04:41 PM
Funny - I had a guy who has run multiple marathons that was going on about how swimming isn't all that different from any of the other "cardio" sports. I challenged him to swing by the pool, and he was toast after about twenty minutes.
Swimming is good exercise, but I'm a little jaded since I had to wear a speedo when I swam.
With the Company discount, I could get a membership at Gold's for thirty-five bones a month but that place looks like a douchebag factory.
The Y's near me are about $50 a month for a single person membership and 80-90 for a family.
Just had my first at home egg whites, and just as I suspected: they tasted like eggs. I did 5 servings, and its like the equivalent of two regular sized eggs.
What's the consensus on egg substitute?
Like liquid egg whites? I love them. Been using them for about 2 or 3 years now. I still eat regular eggs every now and then, but for the most part I stick to egg whites. And I'm cheap, so I buy the generic store brand instead of the name brand stuff. Practically the same nutritional values, a lot less money.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 17, 2013, 04:58:48 PM
Like liquid egg whites? I love them. Been using them for about 2 or 3 years now. I still eat regular eggs every now and then, but for the most part I stick to egg whites. And I'm cheap, so I buy the generic store brand instead of the name brand stuff. Practically the same nutritional values, a lot less money.
Same. I eat 4 servings a day. To me they taste exactly the same as eggs do with yolk only the whites are healthier.
I won't say exactly the same, but the difference is minimal.
Since I started using liquid egg whites, I've also been a lot more consistant about eating (a healthy) breakfast. It's just faster and easier to cook with them than it is regular eggs. I just pour a little bit into a pan, put a nice tomato slice on top, sprinkle a little oregano and a dash of parmesan cheese and like 30 seconds later, I've got a nice egg patty for a breakfast sandwich. Put it on a toasted everything bagel and I'm good to go.
I'll still use regular eggs for certain recipes but that's about it.
I do strictly egg whites with onions/peppers or mushrooms and turkey sausage on the weekdays. Weekends I add a shtein load of cheese.
So egg product and egg whites is almost the same thing...except you get the yellow color with egg product? From what I read egg product is made from egg whites with some added vitamins that are found in yolks.
Couldn't tell ya. When I first started looking to get away from eggs I saw Egg Beaters in the store. They had the yellow color but were farging expensive. I looked next to the Egg Beaters and saw some Stater Bros liquid egg whites for about 1/4 of the cost. So I bought them and haven't looked back.
Quote from: hbionic on February 17, 2013, 06:21:34 PM
So egg product and egg whites is almost the same thing...except you get the yellow color with egg product? From what I read egg product is made from egg whites with some added vitamins that are found in yolks.
You're overthinking it, throw some in a pan and enjoy.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on February 17, 2013, 06:43:25 PM
Couldn't tell ya. When I first started looking to get away from eggs I saw Egg Beaters in the store. They had the yellow color but were farging expensive. I looked next to the Egg Beaters and saw some Stater Bros liquid egg whites for about 1/4 of the cost. So I bought them and haven't looked back.
Haha....was the stromboli the same brand? "Better than boli: all of the taste and only 10 calories". Man, wouldn't that be nice.
Nah man, the boli was legit. Was easily enough to feed 2 people. I intentionally skipped lunch yesterday so I could crush that thing. My gut kind of hates me for it today though.
Looked good.
Very good article about the food industry and the dietary problems they pose. Long, but worthwhile.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html?pagewanted=1&_r=5&hp&adxnnlx=1361455634-S/dxVupuSHccJPldUysZVA
I don't have an account. Please print the article and re-type it as a post on :CF, but proofread your work first.
Just opened for me, and I don't have an account. Weird. I'd post it here, but it's way too long.
Short obvious version: Food companies want to make money at your expense and have been conspiring against you for decades. Don't eat their shtein.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/magazine/the-extraordinary-science-of-junk-food.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Just made myself an egg-white omelette with tomatoes, mushrooms, asparagus, and avocado. Worth the wait.
I bang out a breakfast sandwich most mornings. Egg whites, tomato slice, a dash of italian seasoning and a sprinkle of parm on a toasted everything bagel. Sometimes I add a slice of white american, sometimes I go without. shtein is delicious. Guess I should throw some avocado on their too.
Other than on sandwiches, I've cut back on cheese. It's made a difference. I'm not depriving myself of anything, but my intake is down to a quarter of what I used to eat. I don't do seasoning, in fact some might think the food I eat is pretty bland compared to all the shtein they add for flavor. But it works for me.
No cheese or seasoning. Mexicans everywhere will renounce you.
I watched a show on PBS last night called "Eat, Fast, and Live Longer". It discussed calorie restricted diets which would be a nightmare to maintain, but after that it was about a couple of different fasting options. Option 1 would have you fast for 4 nights and 3 days every month while Option 2 you eat normally 5 days a week and consume no more than 600 calories (400 for females) on the other 2 random days. Both options apparently reduce IGF-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin-like_growth_factor_1) levels. Since IGF-1 encourages new cell development, reducing the levels forces the body to repair cells instead.
Seems like it's more anecdotal evidence as very little empirical research has been done, but I think I'm going to give the 5/2 option a go.
Full show if interested: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/110651/BBC_Horizon_2012_Eat_Fast_and_Live_Longer/
since most people eat like slobs what's considered eating "normal" the 5 days?
They didn't specify, but I'm assuming it's no more than the recommended daily caloric intake for a sedentary lifestyle.
Anyone ever deal with Plantar Fasciitis? My right foot has hurt like hell in the morning for the past few months. Left one started hurting this week. I started a regular workout routine in January. I get through my workouts fine but mornings aren't fun.
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 04, 2013, 08:27:25 AM
I watched a show on PBS last night called "Eat, Fast, and Live Longer". It discussed calorie restricted diets which would be a nightmare to maintain, but after that it was about a couple of different fasting options. Option 1 would have you fast for 4 nights and 3 days every month while Option 2 you eat normally 5 days a week and consume no more than 600 calories (400 for females) on the other 2 random days. Both options apparently reduce IGF-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin-like_growth_factor_1) levels. Since IGF-1 encourages new cell development, reducing the levels forces the body to repair cells instead.
Seems like it's more anecdotal evidence as very little empirical research has been done, but I think I'm going to give the 5/2 option a go.
Full show if interested: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/110651/BBC_Horizon_2012_Eat_Fast_and_Live_Longer/
Thanks. Sounds interesting. Gonna check this out.
Quote from: SD on April 09, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
Anyone ever deal with Plantar Fasciitis? My right foot has hurt like hell in the morning for the past few months. Left one started hurting this week. I started a regular workout routine in January. I get through my workouts fine but mornings aren't fun.
Were mornings fun before?
I'm working out again. It sucks but is also awesome. I wish I had had access to real coaches and information about training when I was young because the older I get the more I realize that my body takes to every variety of workout I try, and actually excels, pretty quickly. Everyone cares.
I care. I've met you and I know that an ass like yours wasn't built in one day.
Quote from: SD on April 09, 2013, 09:15:54 PM
Anyone ever deal with Plantar Fasciitis? My right foot has hurt like hell in the morning for the past few months. Left one started hurting this week. I started a regular workout routine in January. I get through my workouts fine but mornings aren't fun.
I've been dealing with it for over a year...but it is much, much better now.
I went to Target and bought a night splint specifically for plantar fasciitis. It was about $30 for one foot but it helps keep tension on your tendon (which probably goes against conventional thinking) but it doesn't help when it is relaxed. The dorsal splint helps keep the toes pointed while you sleep, stretching the tendon and reducing pain in the morning.
Also, I have arch support in all of my shoes...or I use arch support. If I don't, I'm farged. This has also reduced the pain.
They have exercises that can help with stretching...but they recommend you do that before you get out of bed each day.
It's a pain in the farging ass...but you will get to a point where you feel relief. I don't know if we can completely get rid of it unless we check into physical rehabilitation and become committed to these execises, but at least for half-asses like me, you can get away with arch support, the splint, and stretches.
Anyone interested in doing some kind of :CF fitness challenge? Seems like there's enough of us to do a 3 or 6 month challenge...post results, etc.
Anyone interested?
you just want to see pics of my chest right?
I'm happy to see that the first thought that came to you with a group fitness challenge was sharing your shirtless pics with random strangers. farg it, I'll take a look.
If this 'fitness challenge' thing is decent enough and includes a lot of lifting I'd probably be in.
I'm planning on doing the Tour de Cure in Saratoga over the summer, 25 mile bike race... I don't think I've rode a bike since I was maybe 15.
I figure we'd all shoot for personal goal, maybe throw in some athletic goals as well as maybe like a group goal.
For example-
Personal:
Lose weight, bulk up, tone down, whatever you want for yourself.
Athletic:
Vertical leap, 2-mile run, swimming or something
Group goal:
Monthly progress check ins or limits...if you don't make it within a certain time frame or weight or percentage of your overall goal or group time or level...you're done.
It's up for discussion. There seem to be enough of us that care as much about ourselves as we do ridiculing each other. Two birds with one stone. There's even a slim chance we'd motivate each other.
Quote from: hbionic on April 15, 2013, 01:07:54 PM
It's a pain in the farging ass...but you will get to a point where you feel relief. I don't know if we can completely get rid of it unless we check into physical rehabilitation and become committed to these execises, but at least for half-asses like me, you can get away with arch support, the splint, and stretches.
Like every other ailment I've ever had I ignored this and now it's farging killing me. I can barely walk on it in the morning. So tomorrow I'm going to start some stuff that will add relief. First thing I'm going to do is roll my foot over a water bottle. That's supposed to add some relief.
Dude, stop farging around.
1. Get some arch supports in shoes ASAP. Don't wear sandals anymore.
2. Buy two of these (one for each foot).
http://www.walmart.com/ip/19898460?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227014945906&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=13969873750&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem
These two things alone should give you immediate relief. I still get it once in a while...but it's not as bad as when I had it at your stage. The weird part is that keeping your foot relaxed is bad for this...keeping tension helps.
I went to the water store yesterday to fill up my empty water gallons and there was this lady who was buying Alkaline water. I asked her what it was for and she said to drink. She said that our diets are acidic and this helps balance things out. It made sense. She said she used to have really bad back pain and it has gone away ever since she started drinking this stuff.
Anyone else tried drinking alkaline water?
Yeah. I take it as a chaser after doing shots of battery acid.
Quote from: Diomedes on May 19, 2013, 03:14:17 PM
Yeah. I take it as a chaser after doing shots of battery acid.
lol
Has anyone tried doing the 'Insanity Workout' videos? Thoughts?
It's a fad.
Like all of them.
Delete thread, you fargin women.
no way...its imperative to know how much weight everyone is losing
Quote from: Diomedes on August 09, 2013, 09:49:53 PM
It's a fad.
Like all of them.
Delete thread, you fargin women.
None of them are really fads....elevate your heart rate/burn a shtein ton of calories by doing glorified calisthenics.
Quote from: hbionic on August 09, 2013, 06:30:36 PM
Has anyone tried doing the 'Insanity Workout' videos? Thoughts?
i have them. i don't do them regularly but it's a pretty intense 45 min workout. lemme know if you want me to upload them somewhere for you.
i was going to do insanity but i just didn't feel comfortable. i don't think it does enough warm up and cool down
i did and am going to start Rushfit again. i really liked this program. i have the files that i can send anybody
There's not much to warm up/cool down, which is probably why it doesn't have more in the videos.
Stretch on your own and do some jumping jacks, pushups, etc before starting to get your heart rate up a bit and then do more stretching, walking and/or light jogging, and drink water to cool down.
My buddy watched this documentary called fat, sick and nearly dead. It's some Aussie cat who has some skin condition, is about 100 lbs. overweight, and was taking a bunch of medication. He starts this fruit/veggie juice diet - loses a bunch of weight - and all of his ailments go away. So he decided to buy a juicer and give it a try. He lasted two days. The concept is interesting but farg being miserable while your body detoxes. He was having big time caffeine withdraws.
Yeah, vitamins and minerals are the real shtein. Also him being fat, eating a lot of bad foods = hella sweaty = skin condition.
So I'm back in the gym and am struggling to remember my old workout routine. I think I have most of the exercises, but I believe I'm missing one or two lifts, especially on Monday/Friday. Figured I'd ask some of you super duper experts what you think I might need to add. I wanna say that I think it ignores my shoulders a little bit, so maybe add an upright bench? Or am I ignoring my legs too much by assuming squats and calf raises are all I need?
It's a full body workout that is done in month long phases...this is Phase 1. I'm struggling even more to remember Phase 2, other than remembering that dead lifts were added in here somewhere. I think once I get done this first month of Phase 1, I'm going to have to look for another workout routine. But this program has always been great for toning up my muscles and giving me a good base to start from.
Monday
Bench Press (3 sets, 2x12, 1x10)
Squats (3 sets, 2x12, 1x10)
Lat pull downs (2x10)
Seated rows (2x10) (these and the lat pull downs are done on the circuit machine)
Butterfly pec-dec (2x10)
Upright Z-bar row (2x10)
Calf Raises
Sit ups
Wednesday
Incline Bench (3 sets, 2x12, 1x10)
Front Squats (3sets, 2x12, 1x10)
Lat Pull Down (2x10)
Seated Rows (2x10)
Butterfly pec-dec (2x10)
Reverse Flies (2x10)
One arm dumbbell rows (2x10)
Iron Cross (2x10) (I still don't know if I'm doing it right...learned to just raise my arms up, but now all the websites say you should simultaneously squat down as you pick your arms up?)
Friday
Bench Press (3 sets, 2x12, 1x10)
Squats (3 sets, 2x12, 1x10)
Lat pull downs (2x10)
Seated rows (2x10)
Butterfly pec-dec (2x10)
Upright Z-bar row (2x10)
Calf Raises
Sit ups
So do I need to add anything? Maybe move one of the dumbbell exercises to Monday and Friday?? or add a completely new lift to Mondays and Wednesdays?
Also, to give you an idea of the weights I do...Day 1, Monday, of Phase one, my bench press will start with a 10 pound weight on each side, and I increase the weight by 5 pounds for each set. So by Day 11, the last Friday of Phase 1, my 3rd and final bench set should be 55 pounds on each side.
10lb weights?
you'd get a better workout benching your guitar
Quote from: Munson on October 08, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
So do I need to add anything?
I didn't see any exercises that involved offing yourself. Should only need 1 rep. Add that and you'll be good.
Quote from: reese125 on October 08, 2013, 05:53:10 PM
10lb weights?
you'd get a better workout benching your guitar
for one set....then it's 15, then 20...then on friday it's 15, 20, 25...etc. When you're doing 33-35 reps, it does it's job. I'm not the icehole in the gym looking to max out my bench every time I'm there.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 08, 2013, 05:54:18 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 08, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
So do I need to add anything?
I didn't see any exercises that involved offing yourself. Should only need 1 rep. Add that and you'll be good.
Only if it's not one of those cry for help reps....then it might take more.
sarge, you usually wear a cut off t-shirt and everlast high tops when you work out?
Yes, but only that.
I just went from 6 to midnight
Quote from: reese125 on October 08, 2013, 06:06:08 PM
sarge, you usually wear a cut off t-shirt and everlast high tops when you work out?
Doesn't everybody?
Quote from: Munson on October 08, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
So I'm back in the gym and am struggling to remember my old workout routine. I think I have most of the exercises, but I believe I'm missing one or two lifts, especially on Monday/Friday. Figured I'd ask some of you super duper experts what you think I might need to add. I wanna say that I think it ignores my shoulders a little bit, so maybe add an upright bench? Or am I ignoring my legs too much by assuming squats and calf raises are all I need?
Squats and calves aren't enough for legs, unless you don't have hamstrings. Deadlift so you can eliminate one of your two rows on M/F and considering what you're doing, it should be enough hamstrings for you too. If you're at a loss for what to do at the gym the answer is almost always deadlift.
If you're benching every other day you won't need to do front delts at all, just do lateral raises, reverse flies and facepulls.
Ah yes, facepulls. I love facepulls. And backpushes. And hamsmacks.
Also, I just started going back to the gym after a couple of weeks of hiatus and it farging sucks just like I remembered. farg this.
I google'd those to see if they are real things. They are not.
Quote from: Dillen on October 08, 2013, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: Munson on October 08, 2013, 05:29:53 PM
So I'm back in the gym and am struggling to remember my old workout routine. I think I have most of the exercises, but I believe I'm missing one or two lifts, especially on Monday/Friday. Figured I'd ask some of you super duper experts what you think I might need to add. I wanna say that I think it ignores my shoulders a little bit, so maybe add an upright bench? Or am I ignoring my legs too much by assuming squats and calf raises are all I need?
Squats and calves aren't enough for legs, unless you don't have hamstrings. Deadlift so you can eliminate one of your two rows on M/F and considering what you're doing, it should be enough hamstrings for you too. If you're at a loss for what to do at the gym the answer is almost always deadlift.
If you're benching every other day you won't need to do front delts at all, just do lateral raises, reverse flies and facepulls.
I'm thinking of just replacing the front squats on Wednesday with the dead lift...because farg front squats.
Quote from: SD_Eagle5 on October 20, 2006, 10:52:53 AM
That site has some good info on it, I usually check out bodybuilding.com. when I have a question, they have a large online community there.
Check this guy out. (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=523356) That's pretty amazing.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=217596&d=1120644702)
holy-non-thread-saver.
The last two years or so I was going to the gym with one or both of my sisters without any real plan, just lifting things in sets of ten whenever the vultures stop circling a machine, and then a half hour to an hour on the treadmill or bike. Didn't accomplish much, since I'd go three times one week and then not be able to go for a month.
Now that I'm all set up down here with a fake bowflex and stationary bike in the enclosed porch dealie and a tiny-ass pool in the yard, I'm pulling big rubber bars in sets of ten and pedaling fake miles every day. Still no plan beyond not dying at 40, which so far seems like an achievable goal. So far, so good. I at least feel like less of a sack of shtein, especially since I stopped wearing sweatpants out in the 80+ degree heat to work out and following it up with a nice hot shower in a poorly ventilated bathroom.
so you'll live to 42 now ?
Let's not get crazy.
He just guaranteed he'll be hit by a blue-haired snowbird driving a Cadillac the day before his 40th birthday.
Haha, remember when we all used to post in this thread?
Anyway, I came to a realization about six months ago that when I'm not exercising regularly I am miserable. And when I'm miserable I'm really excellent at making the people around me miserable. So now, in addition to being a vain 37 year old who can't accept the aging process, apparently my mental health (such as it is) is also subject to staying active. So now I work out almost daily.
I returned to the Tim Ferriss muscle-building routine, but am mixing in regular running, bootcamps and kettlebell workouts to keep the bulk down. All of which is great except that I am also still drinking truly heroic quantities of beer meaning that I basically look exactly the same as I always have.
In summary, working out is lame and mental health is overrated. Beer, on the other hand, is wonderful.
welcome back from the darkside.
Also, one of my fit icehole friends introduced me to something called the burpee-pullup. It's exactly as awful as it sounds.
wtf ?
i was getting myself back into shape from the winter and at the end of March i severely sprained my ankle playing basketball. I was on crutches for a week and it's still not right. After a round of golf or a lot of walking it still swells up and I still can't run on it. In the meanwhile I gained like 15 lbs from not doing anything active, so that's fun for me
i def need to drop around 25-30lbs. would put me at 200. issue is like with many others, i dont stay active enough. if i would stop eating cereal at night id drop those pounds with ease but damn, those honeycombs keep calling my name. :boom
I blew out my left ankle when I was 32 and it took me almost 3 months before I could play again. What I remember most was it taking an hour to get home driving a standard.
yeah, it's crazy how long it's taken. i thought for sure i broke it the way it hurt and i couldn't put weight on it the first few days but the xrays came back negative.
That sounds like scar tissue, Sunny. I had the same issue. They had to go in there and clear it out because it kept swelling up. Doesn't show up on the x-ray either. The MRI caught it, though.
For me it was probably a year until I could comfortably sit or kneel on that ankle but eventually it was good as new with no lasting effects. Sometimes it's worse when the connective tissue goes that if the bone had broken instead.
i blew out both my ankles two times each when i was younger. my left two times courtesy of playing high school baseball on philly fields. olney & bartrum.
still, i healed up pretty quickly. twisted my ankle two years ago and it took forever to heal ... getting old and fat sucks.
Yep - all those shots to the knees plus surfing royally farged my knee. Thank God for Aleve.
Quote from: rjs246 on June 05, 2015, 01:16:12 PM
Also, one of my fit icehole friends introduced me to something called the burpee-pullup. It's exactly as awful as it sounds.
This sounds like a slippery slope towards crossfit.
I'm still plugging away five days a week on my fake bowflex. I've got my bench press up to 330 lbs (because that's all it goes up to), 3 sets of 12. I'm curious what that would be in real weight numbers, but not enough to, like, go to a gym or something.
I joined my company softball team and the first 3 practices resulted in the following injuries:
Practice #1 - pulled hamstring
Practice #2 - strained oblique
Practice #3 - partially torn calf that took 4 weeks to heal
I'm like the Mr. Glass character from "Unbreakable"
Sounds like you might want to do something less strenuous. But since we're talking about softball that might not be possible. Competitive sitting, perhaps?
golf ...
Weekly poker is about all the exercise I get now. And I get shtein sleep. I will die by age 50 trying to push out a fart.
:-D
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 05, 2015, 03:30:38 PM
I joined my company softball team and the first 3 practices resulted in the following injuries:
Practice #1 - pulled hamstring
Practice #2 - strained oblique
Practice #3 - partially torn calf that took 4 weeks to heal
I'm like the Mr. Glass character from "Unbreakable"
You need smoothies and to have the circumference of your knees measured! Because culture and stuff...
Btw it sounds like we all need artificial joints. My ankles and knees are shtein. I need new legs, Lt Dan.
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 05, 2015, 03:30:38 PM
I joined my company softball team and the first 3 practices resulted in the following injuries:
Practice #1 - pulled hamstring
Practice #2 - strained oblique
Practice #3 - partially torn calf that took 4 weeks to heal
lol
Quote from: Beermonkey on June 05, 2015, 03:30:38 PM
I joined my company softball team and the first 3 practices resulted in the following injuries:
Practice #1 - pulled hamstring
Practice #2 - strained oblique
Practice #3 - partially torn calf that took 4 weeks to heal
I'm like the Mr. Glass character from "Unbreakable"
WTF? You can't be older than me. Those are like three of the most miserable injuries you can get. Dude, stretch, stretch and to top it off, stretch some more.
Anybody ever run/trained with cracked ribs? I have a 5k coming up and my ribs are fargedinhalf bruised or cracked or torn cartilage or something. Just curious about whether running for some distance will make me want to kill myself.
You're ballsy as hell if you're going to do that with a rib injury. The bouncing and heavy breathing if you get winded will hurt like hell.
If you decide to do it get several of those wide ace bandages and wrap yourself tight like wearing a corset type deal to help keep your rib cage from moving around too much
I've had busted ribs and everything I did hurt. Sneezing was out of this world awful. The trainers had me on the bike and doing light strength stuff and I hated it
You could also see about taking a cortisone shot
Yeah so far sneezing and wrestling with midgets have been the two things and really farg me up. Jogging isn't pleasant but hasn't been unbearable. Basically I've been laid up for five days and the inactivity is driving me farging nuts so I want to run but am nervous about the aftermath.
I broke my ribs and partially punctured a lung doing the bull in the ring drill at football practice when I was 14. Hurt like a motherfarger. I wouldn't attempt s 5k unless they were healed. All that bouncing can't be good for the healing process. With ribs there's nothing you can really do to heal them faster...not like you can throw a cast on them to hold them in place. It's more your pain tolerance.
It's hard to say if it'll worsen if it's broken - if it is non displaced fracture you should be ok and not have to worry about it moving around too much and puncturing a lung or something. The cartilage injuries can linger forever especially if you aggravate them.
But a good bruise can feel like a break and if it's bruised it's just about pain tolerance
Maybe try a couple laps around the block to gauge how you feel under exertion.
How did you do it?
Yeah I broke a rib when I was 13/14 on an onsides kick recovery....got smashed by one of the guys. At first I thought i just got the wind knocked out of me. Found out on the next play that gettign down into a 3 point stance was hard, and firing out and running was impossible. Couldn't imagine trying to run 5k with that.
I've done shtein to my rib cartridge too, that shtein hurts.
Yeah I'm cringing thinking about it now. Mine were busted by a RB putting his facemask in my ribs and I wheezed like a 90yr old emphysema patient and the cartilage injury was from getting drilled by a 90mph fastball. Goddammn hillbilly pitcher.
Rjs another thing is if the course is flat and you don't have a herky jerky running motion you should be ok. Some people run with ease and little upper body motion and others have a ton of arm action which will obviously irritate the rib cage
Some young dude lit me up in my last lacrosse game. Hit me square in the ribs, hard enough to strain my back and sprain my ankle in the process. Probably for the best since I was playing like a handicapped chimpanzee this season but the idea of not being able to exercise is a little upsetting given my fondness for binge drinking.
Ouch - next time you see him accidentally thump his sack with your lacrosse stick
Pretty sure I tore my quads in softball yesterday. Up all night and going to urgent care soon. I'm still in my mid 20s. Aging really doesn't happen gracefully, huh
I thought I was beating the age thing. It was smooth sailing. When 40 hit, I didn't blink an eye...didn't matter. The idea of turning 40 wasn't a problem at all. My wife, though, she lost her mind when she hit 40. Her mid-life crisis hit me like a freight train. No joke, that's what aged me. I swear, I think I've aged at least 10 years in the last 4. I wish I was kidding, too.
I have forearm tendonitis. My buddy said to rest it and ice it and massage the lower part to loosen fibers because tendons don't get much blood flow. It's been a problem for 2 months. I keep working out despite it killing me thinking it'll just magically go away.
Been on a self destructive drinking binge lately. Last night was a bad one. Hope you're all doing well. I'm down 30 lbs this year.
Quote from: SD on July 30, 2015, 08:52:58 AM
I have forearm tendonitis. My buddy said to rest it and ice it and massage the lower part to loosen fibers because tendons don't get much blood flow. It's been a problem for 2 months. I keep working out despite it killing me thinking it'll just magically go away.
Been on a self destructive drinking binge lately. Last night was a bad one. Hope you're all doing well. I'm down 30 lbs this year.
Dude that was the start for me....I have ridiculous tendinosis in my bicep tendon. Bunch of micro tears that they can't operate on. Did physical therapy for a month, nothing helped. I have an elbow sleeve that helps a little, but direct bicep work is out of the question, same with a lot of back stuff, including pull ups. I'm as heavy as I've been in years, and that injury doesn't help. Been riding a bike more....but, it's not the same.
I can deal with the pain, I just don't want it to get worse to where I mess something up. I stopped doing Bi's altogether too but still do back and always cardio. My problem is I'll go a few days with little discomfort or pain then think I'm ok and it kills again.
It's an overuse injury. Mine feels great, right up until I have to use it. Try a compression sleeve for your elbow. It'll definitely help. Takes some of the pressure off of the tendon.
That's what you get for working your glamour muscles.
Since we're all bitching about things, I had spent the last year or so in really excellent shape. Strong, fast, drinking gargantuan quantities of beer without any weight gain. Then I broke my ribs and couldn't work out vigorously at all. Then I acquired some mystery ailment that destroyed my appetite for a week. Now I'm back under 170 pounds with almost no muscle anywhere. And my farging ribs haven't healed yet so I can't even do anything about it. Wah.
I think I need to go on your diet plan.
Quote from: Zanshin on July 30, 2015, 10:59:18 AM
I think I need to go on your diet plan.
I've been working out religiously this year...5-7 days a week and I think maybe one week this year I only got 4 workouts in. I was gaining muscle but losing body fat at a slow rate. About Mid May I decided to alter my diet. I bought Optimum whey all natural protein. Honestly the stuff kills my appetite and I don't have to worry about starving my muscles because it's protein. That was my issue is I hated doing weights then not feeling like I'm not giving them enough protein, so I'd eat like shtein on occasion. Once I added the protein that went away. I slimmed down big time and my muscles are a lot harder.
Nice. I'm meant RJS's plan, which sounds easier.
That said, after my vacation I'll suck it up and get back at it the old fashioned way, as you've outlined.
Quote from: Zanshin on July 30, 2015, 11:27:13 AM
Nice. I'm meant RJS's plan, which sounds easier.
That said, after my vacation I'll suck it up and get back at it the old fashioned way, as you've outlined.
I know I was just giving you what worked for me.
A lot of the working out stuff for me is mental. I need it in my life to keep going. Even on vacation I get up early and work out.
Mental is a big part of it. I'm excellent at two things: Losing weight and Gaining weight. Maintaining I kind of suck at.
...and by "kind of," I mean "completely."
I don't train anymore. Knee requires replacement and there's no point anyway. I still swim recreationally and walk a mile or two three times a week on the beach, but that's it.
Golf doesn't count, btw.
Getting old sucks. Being old is worse.
Quote from: Zanshin on July 30, 2015, 12:02:21 PM
Mental is a big part of it. I'm excellent at two things: Losing weight and Gaining weight. Maintaining I kind of suck at.
My issue as well. I don't understand how people maintain weight. Winters are bad for me I always pack on 20-30 lbs. I'm taking steps right now so that doesn't happen again.
i had already gained like 15lbs from last summer when in March i sprained my ankle badly and it's still screwed up so I have not run or done anything since then. add on another 15 lbs since then and it's not a good time for right now.
Bought a nutribullet. Started substituting my lunch with a shake. Usually it's some combo of almond milk/cocunut milk/kale/spinach/blueberries/raspberries/apples/cinnamon/whey protein/perfect food raw organic. Just doing that alone and keeping my drinking/binge eating to the weekends and I dropped 10 lbs. in a month. I've maybe worked out 5 times during that time frame.
If you would use non-organic, you'd do the same, but you'd have more money left in your pocket.