Starting safety Harper out for year for Saints (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2619178)
Omar Stoutmire will be waiting to spit on eagles on sunday.
Hope I'm wrong but this one has the makings of a let down game. Emotional wins always cause a let down the following week. Offensively I think we'll be fine, defensively is where I think we're going to struggle. The Saints have as good a 1-2 punch as any team in the league, McCallister is a physical RB and our D-line didn't rotate much last week. They're also 4-1 and riding an emotional high.
This season, its not the opposing running games that scare me...its our ass-backwardness when it comes to the big passing plays we give up. Granted our secondary is dinged up...but I'm more than confident about shutting opposing teams rushers down...espcially when we have leads and the other team has one or less receiving threats.
The loss of Harper is huge. He was playing very well for them.
I'm confident this week.
Hollis & Brian Young are the DTs...Simoneau is the MLB. == $$$
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 10, 2006, 01:19:06 PM
Hope I'm wrong but this one has the makings of a let down game. Emotional wins always cause a let down the following week. Offensively I think we'll be fine, defensively is where I think we're going to struggle. The Saints have as good a 1-2 punch as any team in the league, McCallister is a physical RB and our D-line didn't rotate much last week. They're also 4-1 and riding an emotional high.
Yup... that's what's in the back of my mind too. On top of the fact that the Saints haven't lost in the "New" dome yet.
I do feel however, that outside of a letdown... I don't see the Eagles losing. Not that it'll be a blowout, but we should win. Their defense has been playing pretty well and all, but IMO... it's been overachieving and as we all know that Hollis and Sim can't stay solid for too long. I just don't think they'll be able to stop us.
Right now, if someone forced me to pick, I'd pick the Saints, just because of the letdown factor like people are talking about. However, one thing going for the Eagles is that the Saints were home last week, and they won a big game late, so they probably have a bit of a letdown factor as well.
I think no matter what, they split the next two weeks between NO and Tampa
I see 'em beating NO and TB and maybe having a beef with JAX. The whole game before the bye was always a bitch.
If we are going to factor in a letdown, don't forget about the Saints.
They played a division rival who has killed them recently. It was a very tight, back and forth game, which they won in the last second.
So, what about that, huh? huh?
Quote from: methdeez on October 10, 2006, 02:00:18 PM
If we are going to factor in a letdown, don't forget about the Saints.
They played a division rival who has killed them recently. It was a very tight, back and forth game, which they won in the last second.
So, what about that, huh? huh?
They're also at home and that win wasn't nearly as emotional a win as ours, we won what was probably one of the most if not the most hyped games in NFL history.
I'd like to think that the Eagles are on a roll and they know it....
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
Too bad Stallworth won't be playing because I'm sure he would try to fire up the Eagles against his old team. No letdown.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
Maybe not, but Andy Reid is 11-4 against the Cowboys. He's 5-5 in the week following a win against the Cowboys.
That said, I don't think there will be a let down. These guys are playing for real.
I think the Eagles will win...but McAllister has traditionally given them fits.
Offensively the Eagles shouldn't have any problems but defensively I don't trust this team at all. Drew Brees is smart, McAllister is tough and their receivers/Bush are dangerous. This could easily turn into a shootout.
Quote from: Philly_Crew on October 10, 2006, 02:24:24 PM
Too bad Stallworth won't be playing because I'm sure he would try to fire up the Eagles against his old team. No letdown.
How do you know he won't be playing?
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
History proves otherwise....
The Eagles must stop the run this week. Deuce is definitley back to his pre-ACL days and Reggie Bush is simply electrifying. My only gripe with Reggie thusfar is that he dances a tad bit too much.
Last week we identified the Cowboys OL and Bledsoe as the place to attack.
This weekend its also going to be the Saints OL. Although Brees is no statue and he's also back to his pre-injury days.
I love Colston. Helluva pick.
Sean Payton has this team going in the right direction. One thing to watch out for is that Payton, being no stranger to the NFC East (he was a former Eagles coach too) is that he knows how to defend the Eagles.
His days with the Giants featured him max-protecting Kerry Collins and helped preside over that Giants 9 game win streak.
He also max-protected a ton with the Cowboys and we saw what they did to the Birds when they had a ton of blockers in there to help.
Now - will the Eagle DL, which is better than any that Payton has ever seen in Philly, step it up? I believe so. Darren Howard is making his return and Trent Cole is a man-beast.
Attack Points On New Orleans;
1. Jamar Nesbit - Jeff Faine - Jahri Evans interior trio
Faine is very undersized and could have problems against Trotter when Jeremiah throws his shoulder in those A gaps. He'll have to help out the OG's a lot too.
Nesbit vs. Walker/Bunkley is advantage Eagles.
I really like Jahri Evans too. He's a local kid (Bloomsburg) who the Eagles were very high on. He'll be facing Mike Patterson and LaJuan ramsey.
2. Jammal Brown & Jon Stinchcomb
Brown is a potential stud. But he's still raw. He'll have to face a guy in Cole who can blow by him. Can he pass block without help of the backs and a TE? We'll see.
I love the Howard vs. Stinchcomb matchup.
3. Mark Simoneau
They know how to pick on Mark. I expect them to exploit him.
4. Omar Stoutmire
The loss of Roman Harper is HUGE. Stoutmire is his replacement and he can be beaten on the play fakes
I hope Stallworth can straigthen the hammy out for this game.
It will probably be somewhat tough, but its definitely a winnable game. They seem to be executing particularly well on offense and calling all the right plays. If the D-line can continue to get pressure up front we'll be in good shape.
Plus, Payton scares me from a coaching standpoint. He always gameplans well and knows how to prepare his QB's for the Eagles array of blitz packages. Here's hoping that our secondary gets completely healed soon so we could possibly drop back in coverage and just let the d-line tee off like they've been doing so far this year.
Also, cutting back on the blitz can help in the run department too -- a lot of the big plays against the Eagles in the run game on Sunday came when they blitzed allowing the Cowboys to run a lot of counter delays to the opposite end of the blitz.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
I'll disagree here.
Super Bowl XV = biggest letdown game ever.
I doubt Stallworth plays. Don't have a good feeling there.
But I think that they'll be OK. With Donovan playing like he is I think he'd be able to win with any three random :CF er's as his WRs.
Suit up, Z.
he was on with eskin and it sure didnt sound like he was gonna play...he must have said five times how he has to make sure he doesnt come back too early
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2006, 03:11:47 PM
I doubt Stallworth plays. Don't have a good feeling there.
But I think that they'll be OK. With Donovan playing like he is I think he'd be able to win with any three random :CF er's as his WRs.
Suit up, Z.
Put me in, coach. I got skillz.
Saints seem to be playing well, but they have also barely beaten some crap teams.
- They beat Cleveland by 5 points
- Beat the Packers by 7 while giving up 27 points.
- destroyed Atlanta in the magical dome opener
- Lost to Carolina
- Beat Tampa Bay by 3 giving up 21 points to a teams starting a rookie QB in his first game.
They are finding ways to win, obviously thats good... but they are not as good as the media is making em IMO.
Haha, my hair won't fit in the helmet, bro.
The Eagles are definitely in a good position before the bye. There is no doubt they have more talent than the Saints, and the Eagles have been executing all year, really. Everyone can point to the Giants (and maybe the first half of the Packers game -- but even in that game they moved the ball and Buck just put it on the ground twice; it wasn't a collective team problem) game but that probably was an abberation more than anything, and I'll take Trotter at his word that they learned from it.
If Stallworth has to sit out to the bye, I think we can manage. If sitting out until after the bye gets him straightened out for the 2nd half and a playoff run, then it's all good. We will definitely need him with that horrendous stretch of road divisional games.
Reggie needs to get some stick'um on those hands. His drops have been inexcusable. He has the ability to make big plays, but he drops too many easy balls. It seems Pinkston-esque. Todd could always make a big play when he was healthy, but he would drop incredibly easy balls.
Hank has played very well in a limited role. I'll be excited to see what he can do with more playing time. For an undrafted rookie FA he shows a lot of composure and has proved to be extremely sure-handed in clutch situations. We'll see though; it's still too early to get excited over one big play (although it was a helluva play).
opponent records
eagles 9-14
saints 8-15
if we lose on sunday i might not even be able to go out drinking on bourbon street afterwards.
HAHA i couldn't even write that without laughing.
This will be a fairly tough game I think. It won't be as tough as Dallas, but it will still be tough. I'm not worried about the Saints defense. Their offense is playing well though. If we can win the field position battle, then we should win pretty comfortably. If not it will obviously be tougher, but we will need to stop Deuce above all else. Payton usually coaches good games against the Eagles.
I'm not really worried about the let down. The Saints played the Bucs and had an emotional win. It wasn't as emotional as our win, but they are still a team coming into their own. The Eagles have been here before. We should have the mental edge.
I don't care about games that are not endlessly hyped up around the return of a bombastic wide reciever and what his over-zealous ex-fans will do to welcome him back. Next.
Quote from: Philly_Crew on October 10, 2006, 02:24:24 PM
Too bad Stallworth won't be playing because I'm sure he would try to fire up the Eagles against his old team. No letdown.
Where did Howard come from? Think he won't be amped for this? Plus Trot and the gang have too much pride to let up. Our Defense has been playing full-speed since the HOFgame I don't see ant let down. They'll looking fwd to crackin Bush also.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 03:47:55 PM
opponent records
eagles 9-14
saints 8-15
average win over those opponents:
Eagles- 16 points
Saints- 8 points
Quote from: MURP on October 10, 2006, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 03:47:55 PM
opponent records
eagles 9-14
saints 8-15
average win over those opponents:
Eagles- 16 points
Saints- 8 points
Checkmate.
Quote from: Father Demon on October 10, 2006, 04:37:51 PM
Checkmate.
Ugh. Go wash the astroglide off of your hand.
The point, which was valid, is that the Saints won't be pushovers and that the Eagles' record, while exciting, may not be indicitive of a dominant team yet.
Quote from: rjs246 on October 10, 2006, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on October 10, 2006, 04:37:51 PM
Checkmate.
Ugh. Go wash the astroglide off of your hand.
The point, which was valid, is that the Saints won't be pushovers and that the Eagles' record, while exciting, may not be indicitive of a dominant team yet.
I agree.
Personally, I think the Eagles defense will frustrate the New Orleans offense, much like they did to Dallas. The Philly defense is getting better and better each week. New Orleans I think is still trying to find themselves offensively. Both their #2 WR and TE are rookies and Joe Horn is no young chickie anymore. The Saints have been making plays when they have to, and their special teams have helped them tremendously. I think the defense does their job and McNabb is his usual MVP self and lights up Mr. Dreads and LJ has a big day going against our favorite LB.
on paper the eagles should win...but on the road against a quality team is a toss up imo
Quote from: rjs246 on October 10, 2006, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Father Demon on October 10, 2006, 04:37:51 PM
Checkmate.
Ugh. Go wash the astroglide off of your hand.
The point, which was valid, is that the Saints won't be pushovers and that the Eagles' record, while exciting, may not be indicitive of a dominant team yet.
My take on the point (considering who was making it), and I guess I saw it differently, was that the Eagles NOR the Saints are as good as they look. Murp's point that the average margin of victory was double the Saints showed that while the opponents haven't been dominating, the Eagles have handled their opponents better and more convincingly that the Saints.
So bite my ass.
Still up for some beer this weekend?
Quote from: Father Demon on October 10, 2006, 10:23:29 PM
Still up for some beer this weekend?
Dumbest question ever.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
Exactly
I can't imagine the Eagles losing this game. Unlike the mythical letdown game, the Eagles really do historically own the Saints.
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 11, 2006, 12:59:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
Exactly
I can't imagine the Eagles losing this game. Unlike the mythical letdown game, the Eagles really do historically own the Saints.
They owned the Bucs until the NFCCG too. History means diddly poo so I'd appreciate it if you quit talking like a Cowboys fan.
Bad luck omen, Im going to be flying during the game. Everygame over that past 3 years that I've missed, the eagles have lost. Im a superstitious bastich, even tried to get my flight time changed till later at night but no go. :-\
Quote from: Tomahawk on October 11, 2006, 12:59:44 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
Exactly
I can't imagine the Eagles losing this game. Unlike the mythical letdown game, the Eagles really do historically own the Saints.
1989--Eagles need to beat the Saints in New Orleans to have a shot at winning the NFCE outright--a tiebreaker goes the Giants' way. Bobby Hebert, the Saints' starting QB is injured--they have to play a guy named John Fourcade. Eagles LOSE and with that, any shot at the NFCE title. That game was on MNF.
if the eagles lose its because they suck not because of it being a 'letdown game'...whatever that even is
This is the week Andy needs to dust off the run game--
Saints are No.23 against the run, having allowed 167 to Carolina and 187 to the Bucs. However, this might also be a good week for the medium range passes--their LBs aren't speed demons and might be liabilities in coverage.
Dust off the running game. Hoo boy. I'll believe that when I see it.
If by "dust off" you mean "knock off", then...
gcobb from novacare:
westbrook practicing tho not doing everything
stallworth and hood both def out
mccoy out there but limping
what is wrong with stallworth? still the hammy?
He fired his agent and demanded a new contract.
team cancer?
good news: they amputated the hammy so it wouldnt bother him anymore
bad news: recovery time is 2-4 weeks
Quote from: General_Failure on October 11, 2006, 08:30:14 PM
He fired his agent and demanded a new contract.
:-D
It's ironic to see Stallworth, although injured, on the sidelines pumping up the team and being alongside the other receivers. Would you ever see TO do on the sidelines doing what Stallworth has done?? Hell no, TO would be on a friggen' exercise bike.
Even though he's injured right now, I like Stallworth on this team, he looks like a real team player to me. Corney or not.
Quote from: shorebird on October 11, 2006, 09:19:57 PM
It's ironic to see Stallworth, although injured, on the sidelines pumping up the team and being alongside the other receivers. Would you ever see TO do on the sidelines doing what Stallworth has done?? Hell no, TO would be on a friggen' exercise bike.
I am not defending TO in any way, shape, or form here, but didn't he do just that in the NFCCG against the Falcons?
Quote from: Butchers Bill on October 11, 2006, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 11, 2006, 09:19:57 PM
It's ironic to see Stallworth, although injured, on the sidelines pumping up the team and being alongside the other receivers. Would you ever see TO do on the sidelines doing what Stallworth has done?? Hell no, TO would be on a friggen' exercise bike.
I am not defending TO in any way, shape, or form here, but didn't he do just that in the NFCCG against the Falcons?
He was secretly sending the offensive signals to Jim Mora Jr.[/TO is the root of all evil]
Quote from: Butchers Bill on October 11, 2006, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 11, 2006, 09:19:57 PM
It's ironic to see Stallworth, although injured, on the sidelines pumping up the team and being alongside the other receivers. Would you ever see TO do on the sidelines doing what Stallworth has done?? Hell no, TO would be on a friggen' exercise bike.
I am not defending TO in any way, shape, or form here, but didn't he do just that in the NFCCG against the Falcons?
Yes he did, but we were on our way to a Superbowl, and TO wanted back on the field. The game on Sunday was a grudge match for him. He was on the field as the most hyped player ever for the most hyped game ever. He got pissed and cried like a Punk Bitch when he didn't get the ball. Then when Bledsoe finally thew it to him he dropped it 'cause he was scared like a Punk Bitch.
TO will forever be a Punk Bitch.
there's enough reasons to hate TO, you don't need to create another one
Quote from: Butchers Bill on October 11, 2006, 09:26:27 PM
Quote from: shorebird on October 11, 2006, 09:19:57 PM
It's ironic to see Stallworth, although injured, on the sidelines pumping up the team and being alongside the other receivers. Would you ever see TO do on the sidelines doing what Stallworth has done?? Hell no, TO would be on a friggen' exercise bike.
I am not defending TO in any way, shape, or form here, but didn't he do just that in the NFCCG against the Falcons?
In that game, yes. But if I'm not mistaken he watched a couple of games before that from the comfort of a luxury suite or something. And no, I don't care if his leg was broken or not. He should have been hopping up and down the sidelines on one foot.
shorebird is going up the homer charts with a bullet
The keys to the game against New Orleans is not to allow Reggie Bush and Duece McAllister to run the ball. If the Eagles are able to control the running game Brees will be on his back just as much as Bledsoe was. Brees might be a little more mobile but not much.
If I were Andy Reid this week I would start both Moats and Westbrook in the backfield. The Saints are giving up 123 yards a game on the ground. I would give Moats most of the work on the ground and have Westbrook in as a saftey valve on passing downs if the play isn't designed for him. I really doubt Reid will put Moats and Westbrook in the same backfield but it really makes sense to me. I would want to limit Westbrooks runs as much as possible. Andy Reid has said several times that Moats is the best pure runner on the team, seems to be a good game to let him run it.
I noticed AR did put Moats and Westbrook out there in a split back formation last week...
And called a pass?
Eagles breakdwon from the Aints site:
QuotePhilly Preview
Douglas P. Miller, NewOrleansSaints.com
Oct 11, 2006 – 11:00 a
Last week the Saints faced off, and defeated the defending NFC South champs, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The result: A thrilling 24-21 victory, the Saints' second win in the rugged NFC South this season. This week, the task is equally, if not more so, daunting.
Enter the 4-1 Philadelphia Eagles.
The wreaking crew from the south side of the 'City of Brotherly Love,' pack a dangerous and potent punch, in all facets of the game, whether it be throwing or running the football.
Where do we start? How about at the top? Head Coach Andy Reid is a no-nonsense shooter. His record (81-48) speaks for itself, as does his varied play-calling skills. The Eagles were once almost a strictly pass-oriented offense, using the running game perhaps as just a way to get their wide receivers a quick breather and to allow the offensive line a quick respite from backing up all the time into pass protecting.
Times have changed. After a disappointing 2005 season, Reid vowed to utilize the running game more effectively, which they accomplished, as evidenced by their 114.0 rushing average per game.
Offensively, quarterback Donovan McNabb, a terrific player who has unfortunately found himself in some in-house squabbling with a player who no longer plays for the Eagles, has started the 2006 season like a house of fire. McNabb has completed nearly 60% of his passes for 1,602 yards, or 9.10 yard per completion with 11 touchdowns and only one interception.
McNabb is given time by a highly touted offensive line, featuring former first round draft choice Shawn Andrews at right guard and mountain man Jon Runyan at right tackle.
In the running back department, you never can be quite sure what might be seen. Each week a new player seems to emerge, whether it be Brian Westbrook, a water-bug player who draws comparisons to Reggie Bush in his versatility, former Nebraska star I-back Correll Buckhalter, former La. Tech standout Ryan Moats or Brigham Young alum Reno Mahe. Regardless of what number lines up in the backfield, they can all run it and catch it.
The wide receivers are led by former Saints receiver Donte Stallworth, who missed the weeks with a tweaked hamstring. Obviously his absence wasn't a devastating blow to the offensive productivity, as McNabb threw for xxx yards against the much-talked about secondary that features the likes of Roy Williams and Terrance Newman. Reggie Brown starts opposite of Stallworth, with Hank Baskett and Greg Lewis seeing plenty of playing time, as well. Should the offense stall, the Birds rely on former Texas standout kicker David Akers. The lefty is one of the league's best kickers and has range that escalates into the mid 50-yard range. The punting chores are handled by Dirk Johnson, who is averaging nearly 43 yards per pop.
Defensively, it starts up front for the Eagles, as former Saints defensive end Darren Howard (three sacks) and fellow end Trent Cole (six sacks) have manned the bookend positions. Along the interior, Darwin Walker (three sacks on Sunday against the Cowboys) and Reggie Bush's former USC teammate, Mike Patterson, form an imposing front.
Jeremiah Trotter, the ageless one, is a mainstay of defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's varied defensive looks. Dhani Jones and Matt McCoy flank Trotter and are utilized by Johnson in their various blitz packages, which they utilize often.
In the secondary, the cornerback spots feature Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard, while the hard-hitting Brian Dawkins mans the free safety spot and Michael Lewis plays over the tight end.
Quote from: NewOrleansSaints.com
Last week the Saints faced off,(incorrect comma) and defeated the defending NFC South champs, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The result: A thrilling 24-21 victory, the Saints' second win in the rugged NFC South this season. This week, the task is equally, if not more so, daunting.
Enter the 4-1 Philadelphia Eagles.
The wreaking crew from the south side of the 'City of Brotherly Love,(incorrect comma)' pack a dangerous and potent punch,(incorrect comma) in all facets of the game, whether it be throwing or running the football.
Where do we start? How about at the top? Head Coach Andy Reid is a no-nonsense shooter. His record (81-48) speaks for itself, as does his varied play-calling skills. The Eagles were once almost a strictly pass-oriented offense, using the running game perhaps as just a way to get their wide receivers a quick breather and to allow the offensive line a quick respite from backing up all the time into pass protecting.
....
McNabb is given time by a highly touted offensive line, featuring former first round draft choice Shawn Andrews at right guard and mountain man Jon Runyan at right tackle.
In the running back department, you never can be quite sure what might be seen. Each week a new player seems to emerge, whether it be Brian Westbrook, a water-bug player (what?) who draws comparisons to Reggie Bush in his versatility, former Nebraska star I-back Correll Buckhalter, former La. Tech standout Ryan Moats or Brigham Young alum Reno Mahe. Regardless of what number lines up in the backfield, they (pronoun with no antecedent) can all run it and catch it.
The wide receivers are led by former Saints receiver Donte Stallworth, who missed the weeks with a tweaked hamstring. Obviously his absence wasn't a devastating blow to the offensive productivity, as McNabb threw for xxx yards against the much-talked about secondary that features the likes of Roy Williams and Terrance Newman. Reggie Brown starts opposite of Stallworth, with Hank Baskett and Greg Lewis seeing plenty of playing time, as well. Should the offense stall, the Birds rely on former Texas standout kicker David Akers. The lefty is one of the league's best kickers and has range that escalates into the mid 50-yard range. The punting chores are handled by Dirk Johnson, who is averaging nearly 43 yards per pop.
Defensively, it starts up front for the Eagles, as former Saints defensive end Darren Howard (three sacks) and fellow end Trent Cole (six sacks) have manned the bookend positions. Along the interior, Darwin Walker (three sacks on Sunday against the Cowboys) and Reggie Bush's former USC teammate, Mike Patterson, form an imposing front.
Jeremiah Trotter, the ageless one, (he's 29) is a mainstay of defensive coordinator Jim Johnson's varied defensive looks. Dhani Jones and Matt McCoy flank Trotter and are utilized by Johnson in their various blitz packages, which they utilize often.
In the secondary, the cornerback spots feature Sheldon Brown and Lito Sheppard, while the hard-hitting Brian Dawkins mans the free safety spot and Michael Lewis plays over the tight end.
I think I'm beginning to see why Spads brings home the best website award every year.
You must be some kind of elitist east coast liberal snob. Who else cares about spelling, or grammar? How rude.
also...I have yet to hear anyone compare Westbrook to Bush. The other way around, especially when talking about how Bush (like Westbrook) can be dangerous from a wide out postion, sure. But not Westbrook to Bush.
New Orleans should stick to voodoo, jazz, gumbo, and titties, and they should leave both the football and the thinkin' to folks who don't speak in bastichized French.
That's my pre-game trash talk for the week. :poison
David Akers=Louisville
Quote from: Diomedes on October 12, 2006, 10:32:42 PM
also...I have yet to hear anyone compare Westbrook to Bush. The other way around, especially when talking about how Bush (like Westbrook) can be dangerous from a wide out postion, sure. But not Westbrook to Bush.
I was just about to say that same thing.
OHMYGODBRIANWESTBROOK!
(http://www.iveka.com/lootie.gif)Found this on another board :-D
SERIES HISTORY: The game on Sunday will be the 24th meeting between the Eagles and Saints. Eagles lead the series 15-8-0. The Saints have not beaten the Eagles since 1991 or the last seven times they have played. In that stretch the Eagles played 4 games in New Orleans out scoring them 99-54.
Last week Sheppard returned to the Eagles lineup allowing the Eagles to to pass rush more vigorously than they have been since his departure. Eagles knew last week if they stopped Bledsoe, Owens and Glenn the game was theirs to be had. Eagles DB's played deeper most of the game which allowed for some big gains in the running game.
This week the Eagles DB's won't have as much respect for the Saints passing. The backs will play closer to the line of scrimmage which will help in stopping the Saints running game. I would expect Andy Reid to assign a roamer each play to help in stopping McAllister and Bush.
Offensively the Eagles should be able to run the ball. The Saints are giving up 123 rushing yards a game. Look for Buckhalter, Westbrook and possibly Moats to have a good game against the rush defense of the Saints.
Once the run game has been established McNabb will air it out. McNabb should have another 300 plus passing yards by games end. Of course this is Andy Reid were talking about. The Eagles might throw first to set up the run. Either way our RB's should have a good day.
INJURIES:
Donte Stallworth has not practiced this week as of Thursday and will most likely sit out the game against the Saints. Stallworth is listed as doubtful.
Roderick Hood has not practiced at all this week either. Hood will most likely sit out the game also. Hood is listed as doubtful.
Brian Westbrook practiced Wednesday and Thursday which is a good sign since Westbrook hasn't been able to practice the prior 3 weeks. Westbrook's knee had very little swelling since last weeks game against the Cowboys. So much for all the soothsayers saying Westbrook was headed for surgery this week. Westbrook is listed as questionable.
Matt McCoy came away with a hip pointer in the Dallas game last week. Matt will play unless he suffers some kind of set back between now and Sunday. Matt is listed as day to day.
Shawn Barber also came away from the Dallas game with a hip pointer. Like Matt McCoy unless he suffer a set back between now and Sunday he will play. Barber is listed as probable.
Eagles 27 Saints 20
http://eaglesnation.bravehost.com/
I guess this is as good a place as any for predictions...
Usless Stats & Picks:
Aikman Efficiency Rating
Eagles Saints Edge
Off 86.8 79.8 Eagles
Def 81.9 72.6 Eagles
Tot 168.7 152.4 Eagles
Jeff Sagarin Computer Ratings (+3.1 for home field)
Eagles Saints Edge
Pure Points 26.02 23.76 Eagles
ELO_CHESS 23.44 24.64 Saints
Combined 24.75 24.31 Eagles
Yards/Point Defense "Bendability Index"
Eagles: 17.3
Saints: 17.8
Edge: Saints
Power Rankings
Eagles Saints Edge
ESPN 4 13 Eagles
DVOA (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6047580) 3 19 Eagles
FOX (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/powerRankings) 8 16 Eagles
"Experts"
Eagles Saints
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Carter X
Robinson X
Cole X
Funston X
Yahoo Users 76%
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Harmon X
Prisco X
Judge X
Bromberg X
Davis X
Richard X
Cerevant's Homertastic Pick:
Eagles 27
Saints 21
That's odd Harmon would pick the Saints when he picked the Eagles 23-21 to win it.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on October 13, 2006, 12:45:05 PM
That's odd Harmon would pick the Saints when he picked the Eagles 23-21 to win it.
Those picks above are against the spread.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 12, 2006, 10:32:42 PM
You must be some kind of elitist east coast liberal snob. Who else cares about spelling, or grammar? How rude.
also...I have yet to hear anyone compare Westbrook to Bush. The other way around, especially when talking about how Bush (like Westbrook) can be dangerous from a wide out postion, sure. But not Westbrook to Bush.
Got mirrors?
Bwest is one of if not the best offensive player in the league when he's on the field. Bush has a way to go to get were Bwest is. Give him a couple of years. He could be just as good if not better. (injury free)
Quote from: SOARIN EAGLE on October 13, 2006, 10:13:40 AM
Offensively the Eagles should be able to run the ball. The Saints are giving up 123 rushing yards a game. Look for Buckhalter, Westbrook and possibly Moats to have a good game against the rush defense of the Saints.
Once the run game has been established McNabb will air it out.
Brian Westbrook practiced Wednesday and Thursday which is a good sign since Westbrook hasn't been able to practice the prior 3 weeks. Westbrook's knee had very little swelling since last weeks game against the Cowboys. So much for all the soothsayers saying Westbrook was headed for surgery this week. Westbrook is listed as questionable.
Eagles 27 Saints 20
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I like the way Ried has been mixing the run in there with a good rotation of rb's. Buck, if he doesn't fumble, is a nice threat to get 10-15 yds. Moats has done well, and with Bwest, it's as good a running game we've had since Duce was here.
As for Mcnabb airing it out, thats what I'll be waiting for. He's on fire. It's good that L.J. is not on anyones injury report. He's proving himself to be one of the best tight ends in the league. I hope Stallworth takes all the time he needs to get healthy. With him this offense is sick.
I just hope Bwest doesn't have to put up with a bad knee all year.
I think the Saints run run run. The last thing they want is our offense on the field too much. Methinks the score won't be too high.
24-17. Birds (of course).
BTW, it's nice IGY took a train to NO. That's an extra few days of zero idiotic hyperbole.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on October 13, 2006, 08:46:01 PM
BTW, it's nice IGY took a train to NO. That's an extra few days of zero idiotic hyperbole.
even when he's not here, he's not far from your thoughts. obsessed much?
People here? Obsessed? Surely you jest, sir!
NO having to depend on Stoutmire will be a huge disadvantage for the Saints...the Eagles have faced this dude for years, he's never been that impressive...Factor in that Marty and Andy are devising excellent plays to expose other teams weaknesses and I see McNabb finding some big plays downfield, especially to LJ, cause the NO is pretty weak in the deep middle....
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This is a dangerous game for our Birds. After last week, on the road, and a one two punch of Deuce and Bush, it will be a tough one.
After the emotional roller-coaster that just about did me in last week, I have a fear that the Eagles will come out a bit flat in this game.
This isn't last year's Saints team - they're pretty good.
The Eagles will start slow, then get rolling in the 2nd half. I'm afraid that it won't be quite enough.
Saints 27
Eagles 24
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 15, 2006, 08:34:12 AM
After the emotional roller-coaster that just about did me in last week, I have a fear that the Eagles will come out a bit flat in this game.
This isn't last year's Saints team - they're pretty good.
The Eagles will start slow, then get rolling in the 2nd half. I'm afraid that it won't be quite enough.
Saints 27
Eagles 24
Didn't you predict loss last week too? Or you had a really bad feeling? lol
And as long as they keep winning, I'll keep having bad feelings. :D
Your bad feelings will be gone in about 10 hours.
Eagles - 31
Saints - 17
I see Donovan attacking the underneath a lot. Look for Little John to have a big day along with Westbrook. They have the matchup advantages over The Kill Whitey LB Corps.
Saints will run a lot of cover 2 stuff leaving that seam open.
Stallworth and Hood are out.
Westbrook is a GTD, there's some concerns about his knee since they're playing on turf.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2006, 11:07:31 AM
Stallworth and Hood are out.
Westbrook is a GTD, there's some concerns about his knee since they're playing on turf.
QuoteEagles | Westbrook to start Week 6
Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:45:07 -0700
ESPN reports Philadelphia Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (knee) will start in the team's Week 6 game.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 15, 2006, 10:17:39 AM
Eagles - 31
Saints - 17
I see Donovan attacking the underneath a lot. Look for Little John to have a big day along with Westbrook. They have the matchup advantages over The Kill Whitey LB Corps.
Saints will run a lot of cover 2 stuff leaving that seam open.
Agree 100%. That was even my final score prediction. :paranoid
I think Spads said it best..."Today is the day the Saints get a dose of reality."
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2006, 11:20:08 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 15, 2006, 11:07:31 AM
Stallworth and Hood are out.
Westbrook is a GTD, there's some concerns about his knee since they're playing on turf.
QuoteEagles | Westbrook to start Week 6
Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:45:07 -0700
ESPN reports Philadelphia Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (knee) will start in the team's Week 6 game.
Beat me to it, Werder's reporting he will start.
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 15, 2006, 09:15:24 AM
And as long as they keep winning, I'll keep having bad feelings. :D
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 15, 2006, 10:26:24 AM
Quote from: Eagles 3x on October 15, 2006, 09:37:18 AM
Your bad feelings will be gone in about 10 hours.
:-X
Maybe I misunderstood. If they are the Aints then your bad feelings will be gone in about 5 hours. If they are the Eagles then keep the bad feelings all year long. What ever works.
Clayton making more out of Westbrook's decision to play, of course. Making a story where there is none.
He practiced all week but Friday and was fine. Clayton makes it seem like there is a HUGE question on whether or not he'll play. ::) I hate that guy.
Eagles 28
Saints 17
DT Rayburn Active; Mahe Out
October 15, 2006
Defensive tackle Sam Rayburn will see his first action of the season Sunday against the Saints. Inactive for the first five games, Rayburn replaces rookie LaJuan Ramsey in the defensive line rotation. As expected, Donté Stallworth and Rod Hood are out. Reno Mahe is also inactive.
Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson said earlier this week that he was challenging the second-team defensive line, which features first-round pick Brodrick Bunkley and Ramsey inside. And though Ramsey is credited with eight tackles, one quarterback hurry and an interception through five contests, the coach opted to insert the veteran Rayburn. Johnson also indicated this week that Bunkley could see more snaps against New Orleans.
Meanwhile, Stallworth and Hood are sidelined for a third time this season. Neither player practiced this week. Stallworth is still nursing a hamstring strain while Hood continues to battle a heel strain. Hank Baskett starts in place of Stallworth, while Joselio Hanson works as the nickel back.
showcasing rayburn for a trade perhaps?
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 15, 2006, 12:23:54 PM
showcasing rayburn for a trade perhaps?
Not a bad idea. He's a decent DT that is behind a bunch of other solid DT's. Show that he is healthy and in shape...maybe get a 4th or 5th for him.
I picked the Eagles to either lose against the Cowboys or lose this one after week 2. I really think the Eagles should win this game, but it will be tough after the emotional high from last week. That said, I really have very little actual read on the game and I look forward to watching it.
No score prediction this week. If the Eagles win, though, I think they go 10-6 instead of 9-7.
30-27 Eagles
Don't know why, just feel that it will be high scoring and close throughout.
Eagles 31
Saints 24
Let's get it on...
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 15, 2006, 08:34:12 AM
After the emotional roller-coaster that just about did me in last week, I have a fear that the Eagles will come out a bit flat in this game.
This isn't last year's Saints team - they're pretty good.
The Eagles will start slow, then get rolling in the 2nd half. I'm afraid that it won't be quite enough.
Saints 27
Eagles 24
:'(
I hate you.
Scary.
Ban?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 15, 2006, 04:53:24 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 15, 2006, 04:30:34 PM
I hate you.
You don't mean that.
Well, not to the extent that I hate suicideboy, Lewis, or Trotter. But there's a smidgen of dislike there.
Quote from: General_Failure on October 15, 2006, 04:54:09 PM
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 15, 2006, 04:53:24 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 15, 2006, 04:30:34 PM
I hate you.
You don't mean that.
Well, not to the extent that I hate suicideboy, Lewis, or Trotter. But there's a smidgen of dislike there.
So I'm about equal with everyone else around here. Good.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 10, 2006, 02:59:46 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 02:22:47 PM
'the myth of the letdown game' - by igy
theres no such thing kiddies
History proves otherwise....
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2006, 08:07:02 AM
if the eagles lose its because they suck not because of it being a 'letdown game'...whatever that even is
Now you know the 'myth of the letdown game' is real and does exist.
I thought it was pretty interesting in Reid's Post Game Conference and towards the end, some reporter asks Reid something to the effect of whether Sean Considine will replace Lewis and Andy says 'I dunno, we got to go back and look at the film'( or something to that effect).
I guess even Reid's tired of Lewis's bullshtein.
Interesting response.
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