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Title: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: shorebird on October 10, 2006, 06:04:54 AM
Anyone see him short arm that dropped pass?? Think he was looking for Lewis?? :-D

Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Diomedes on October 10, 2006, 09:09:01 AM
Lewis was shaking his head ruefully, obviously disappointed that Owens dropped the ball.  Lewis was winding up to lay a heavy hit, and Owens was afraid.  That play was my favorite TO-centric moment of the game.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 10, 2006, 09:56:37 AM
That was a great moment, Lewis was ready to kill him.  You could see TO slow up and look at lewis.  The fans went crazy.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: BigEd76 on October 10, 2006, 11:27:20 AM
(http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/a8/full.getty-71465327mh025_dallas_cowboy_7_06_44_pm.jpg)

After he knocked the ball away and was heading back to the huddle, Shawn Barber motioned with alligator arms a few feet away...
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: SOARIN EAGLE on October 10, 2006, 11:28:10 AM
TO's own antics worked against him in this game. He knew from what happened last year and some of the barbs he got in this week and during the year that the Eagles defense was going to lay himout if the chance arose. Perfect example was the play were he short armed the ball and saw Lewis.

Key to the game was the defense in the second half. Every expert and so called expert knew that if the defense got to Bledsoe what the result would be. Kudo's to the defense for getting done what everyone knew they had to do.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Yeti on October 10, 2006, 11:31:56 AM
The reaction from Lewis was priceless.  He wanted to break T.O.s other collar bone.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 11:32:24 AM
worse than that was him tearing off the field to avoid any post game pounds and hugs...what a weak loser
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on October 10, 2006, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 11:32:24 AM
worse than that was him tearing off the field to avoid any post game pounds and hugs...what a weak loser

Did you really expect anything more?
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Phanatic on October 10, 2006, 12:55:17 PM
I love the fact that there is a thread here with 'Punk Bitch' in the title. The fact that it is a TO thread is icing.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Feva on October 10, 2006, 01:17:45 PM
Don't know if it's been posted already, but from PFT:  :-D

(http://www.profootballtalk.com/Popcornisready.jpg)

"The Popcorn was ready, but the show never started."
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 10, 2006, 01:21:40 PM
ha, that's great.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2006, 01:22:02 PM
I no punk bitch!
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
An ABSOLUTE MUST WATCH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwYVbSMVEM)!

Great video clip and soundtrack on YouTube. :-D :-D
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eaglez on October 10, 2006, 03:27:50 PM
That was absolutely hilarious. Major props to the person who composed that 'highlight' clip.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: mussa on October 10, 2006, 03:30:28 PM
thats quality right there  :yay :-D
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2006, 03:31:11 PM
farging excellent
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2006, 03:50:15 PM
I think I've watched this about 40 times. :-D
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Father Demon on October 10, 2006, 03:55:44 PM
I wish there was a way I could make that entire clip my desktop background.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: TexasEagle on October 10, 2006, 04:17:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
An ABSOLUTE MUST WATCH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwYVbSMVEM)!

Great video clip and soundtrack on YouTube. :-D :-D

That was hilarious! :yay
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Feva on October 10, 2006, 04:19:18 PM
Incredible... it doesn't get any better than that.  :-D
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Phanatic on October 10, 2006, 05:10:11 PM
That's great!
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: 4and26 on October 10, 2006, 05:12:43 PM
Who ever put that together deserves a farging medal!
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 06:12:50 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
An ABSOLUTE MUST WATCH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwYVbSMVEM)!

Great video clip and soundtrack on YouTube. :-D :-D

:-D :-D :-D  Peferct, perfect, perfect song. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: shorebird on October 10, 2006, 06:22:37 PM
Good Gawd Almighty!! That is the best thing I've seen since Sunday. Fantastic.

Punk Bitch indeed.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: MDS on October 10, 2006, 06:30:26 PM
Very nice video. Let's hope he kills himself tonight.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 06:30:35 PM
Is it wrong that I keep playing it over and over again?  Because if it is, I don't wanna be right. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 10, 2006, 06:31:54 PM
I think I've sent it to 40 people already.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 06:34:53 PM
Not me.  I'm hogging it all to myself.  In fact, I'm going to dim the lights, burn some incense, get naked and rub popcorn all over myself while I watch it.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: MDS on October 10, 2006, 06:41:35 PM
Explaining your deviant sexual fantasies to a bunch of strangers on a football message board isn't weird or anything. Plese go on.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 06:48:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 01, 2005, 01:36:33 PM
I joined the anti-popping collar coalition at temple university
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:02:14 PM
why am i the only one that thinks that video is kinda corny and cant understand all yous are so giddy about it
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: shorebird on October 10, 2006, 07:04:08 PM
I guess your just too cool for the rest of us. ::)
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 07:05:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:02:14 PM
why am i the only one that thinks that video is kinda corny and cant understand all yous are so giddy about it

Because the music was performed by white people not named Eminem. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:06:52 PM
your just too cool for the rest of us


that goes without saying...but it doesnt answer my question

id much rather see a highlite clip of all the eagle scores backed by live announcers as opposed to something that teenage myspace members would giggle about
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: SD_Eagle5 on October 10, 2006, 07:14:41 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 10, 2006, 02:48:28 PM
An ABSOLUTE MUST WATCH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YwYVbSMVEM)!

Great video clip and soundtrack on YouTube. :-D :-D

:cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead :cfhead
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Diomedes on October 10, 2006, 07:23:41 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:06:52 PMid much rather see..

good for you
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:24:40 PM
do you like it dunn?
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 07:25:31 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:06:52 PM
your just too cool for the rest of us


that goes without saying...but it doesnt answer my question

id much rather see a highlite clip of all the eagle scores backed by live announcers as opposed to something that teenage myspace members would giggle about

no announcers but this pretty much gets all the highlights of the game from both sides.  done by a pokes fan but not too bad actually. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6bmYyHOiE&mode=related&search=

now quit yer bitchin.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:45:24 PM
not bad but i still like the live shots so you can hear the crowd...

i like these....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93DDeB_NawU



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bN9m885pLU&NR
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: SunMo on October 10, 2006, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 10, 2006, 07:02:14 PM
why am i the only one that thinks that video is kinda corny and cant understand all yous are so giddy about it

you're not the only one...
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 07:51:06 PM
that second link reminded me of something......

fox needs to farging stop throwing up comments that people are making in a chatroom up on the screen.  the few that they threw up there during the game were stupid and idiotic and now they'll be permanently archived for future generations to see.  I'd prefer it if the media would help try and limit the amount of stupidity they broadcast just a little bit. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: mussa on October 10, 2006, 07:52:50 PM
that first one is great, def couldn't make out what the crowd was saying on FOX. Niiice  :yay
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: SunMo on October 10, 2006, 07:55:24 PM
everytime i see the Baskett TD, i love the throw more and more.  stepping up in the pocket, kinda off the wrong foot, right on the money.  what a throw.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 10, 2006, 07:55:24 PM
everytime i see the Baskett TD, i love the throw more and more. stepping up in the pocket, kinda off the wrong foot, right on the money. what a throw.

yeah..... fundamentally, everything about that throw looked wrong.  he was kind of leaning forward and to the right a little and his feet were backwards.  he almost looked like a natural left hander trying to throw with his right hand for the first time. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: MDS on October 10, 2006, 08:06:04 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 10, 2006, 06:48:16 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 01, 2005, 01:36:33 PM
I joined the anti-popping collar coalition at temple university


way to defend yourself against a college student by digging up a year old plus quote that was taken out of context and has nothing to do with your hopes to masturbate to a video of terrell owens and humorous music. kudos, sassy.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: rjs246 on October 10, 2006, 08:25:12 PM
I still laugh when I think about the post that led up to that. He was so genuinely excited to mock the collar poppers by sharing his membership status with us. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: mikey418 on October 10, 2006, 09:07:36 PM
That video is classic...so simple yet so perfect.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: sharpie on October 11, 2006, 01:49:42 PM
That video was great!  :-D
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eagles 3x on October 11, 2006, 03:13:23 PM
Is this a good place to make a video request? If it is this is were I will do it. If not this is were I will do it. I would like to see a Lip Fluttering Tribute to the Philly D. Spurrier got it started, of course. There was a shot of favre lip fluttering in the GB game and parcells last week after the Dawk int. I can see it now Philly D Tribute. A defensive play highlight followed by a cut to the opposing teams lip flutterer of the week.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 11, 2006, 03:22:53 PM
the defense is 24th in the nfl....not sure video tributes are appropriate at this point
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eagles 3x on October 11, 2006, 04:30:43 PM
So its the 24th rated D that can make 'em stand on the sidelines fluttering thier lips. Somehow thats even better. All the more reason for a fluttering video.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: MURP on October 11, 2006, 04:36:19 PM
interestingly enough,  Football Outsiders has the D ranked at #7. 

Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eaglez on October 11, 2006, 04:42:46 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2006, 03:22:53 PM
the defense is 24th in the nfl....not sure video tributes are appropriate at this point

Yeah, but the Eagles are tied for 8th in the league in yards given up per play:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2006/regular?sort_col_1=4&_1:col_1=5

The problem is they are on the field entirely too long, probably because the offense scores too fast and they give up too many big plays on first and 2nd down. The Eagles defense has been on the field for the most amount of plays in the league this year, being on the field for 26 more plays than the NY Jets:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2006/regular?sort_col_1=4&_1:col_1=3&_1:col_2=9

And we are 13th in the league in third down percentage:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2006/regular?sort_col_1=4&_1:col_1=9&_1:col_2=3

The Eagles, it seems, are giving up a lot of big plays on first and second down that lead to first down conversions and scores. That would account for the amount of yards given up, because the Eagles are pretty decent on third down yet give up a lot of yards. That's my theory at least. I don't have the yards they give up on first and second down, but because of all the stats I mentioned, I would imagine that it would be pretty high.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 11, 2006, 04:55:12 PM
who are you talking too?
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: hbionic on October 11, 2006, 06:36:40 PM
Me.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eaglez on October 11, 2006, 07:51:16 PM
Sorry IGY, I'll dumb it down so you can follow -- stating that the Eagles defense is ranked 24th is misleading due to the statistics I cited. The other factors would indicate that they are actually playing better than the 24th ranking in total defense would suggest.

Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: shorebird on October 11, 2006, 08:21:31 PM
They are leading the league is sacks, no??
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: mussa on October 11, 2006, 08:22:09 PM
We lead the league in sacks right now. I believe almost 90% of all the sacks are from D-linemen too. Thats pretty impressive. Let's see if we can keep it up all year long and against the better teams. Our D-line might be the best in the NFL right now, minus Kearse.  HOLLER.........
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 11, 2006, 08:38:06 PM
Sorry IGY, I'll dumb it down so you can follow -- stating that the Eagles defense is ranked 24th is misleading due to the statistics I cited. The other factors would indicate that they are actually playing better than the 24th ranking in total defense would suggest.

ahhh i see....well then....break out the superbowl shuffle video


btw is the eagles number one ranked offense actually playing worse than the ranking would suggest....or are they fo rilla?
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: General_Failure on October 11, 2006, 08:41:09 PM
They'd be better if Westbrook and Stallworth could both get on the field.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: shorebird on October 11, 2006, 08:59:37 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on October 11, 2006, 08:41:09 PM
They'd be better if Westbrook and Stallworth could both get on the field.

That is what the farg I'm waiting for, and if it happens or not I'm not too shore of.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: shorebird on October 11, 2006, 09:00:38 PM
If that would happen on a consistant basis, this offense would be unstopable.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eaglez on October 11, 2006, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 11, 2006, 08:38:06 PM
Sorry IGY, I'll dumb it down so you can follow -- stating that the Eagles defense is ranked 24th is misleading due to the statistics I cited. The other factors would indicate that they are actually playing better than the 24th ranking in total defense would suggest.

ahhh i see....well then....break out the superbowl shuffle video


btw is the eagles number one ranked offense actually playing worse than the ranking would suggest....or are they fo rilla?


Actually, if you break it down marginally, they are performing at a consistent level. They are ranked #1 in total aggregate yards, and they are ranked #1 in yards per play (6.7 per attempt)

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-TOTAL/2006/regular?sort_col_1=4&_1:col_1=5

So, yeah, they are actually extremely efficient when broken down on a marginal basis.

And I never said that all this equates to a Super Bowl victory, just that I think the total defense and offense stats are misleading, and to get a more accurate picture you have to look at the marginal breakdown and determine if the Eagles are playing efficient football, and right now it seems like they are with a low yards allowed per play on the defensive side and a #1 ranking in the yards gained per play on the offensive side.



Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 08:09:14 AM
shocking you would think that the offense deserves its high ranking while the defense doesnt deserve its low ranking


and im not saying you said superbowl...but you wanted to give a long distance dedication video top the 24th ranked defense...why not the superbowl shuffle?...know what im sayin
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Diomedes on October 12, 2006, 09:16:39 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 08:09:14 AMknow what im sayin

Sure: dick all.  Eaglez is being reasonable, talking football. You're being insulting, talking shtein.  His comments are interesting, they help to give some nuance to the picture.  Your comments are assinine and boring, they add nothing to the discussion.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Cerevant on October 12, 2006, 09:34:22 AM
Well, Aikman agrees with Eaglez (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/9720890) (offense #2, Defense #8) but I guess that doesn't mean anything, since he obviously doesn't know as much about football as our resident football savant, IGY.  Who cares about turnovers and red-zone efficiency...what matters is total yards.

Perhaps we should all just sit quietly and soak in his brilliance...we don't even need to watch the games, since he is so accurate at predicting the future.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: rjs246 on October 12, 2006, 09:37:26 AM
Jesus. This place has a hardon for some IGY today.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Diomedes on October 12, 2006, 09:38:44 AM
Don't be jealous.  I'm still hard for you, too.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: rjs246 on October 12, 2006, 09:39:32 AM
Take a number.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 09:43:03 AM
the offense has been fantastic

the defense is ranked 24th and has been good...but certainly not good enough to be sending out video dedications


it just cracks me up when homers over analyze the bad numbers to make them look better but take the good numbers at face value and run with them


Eaglez is being reasonable saying what i want to hear

fixed dunny
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: MDS on October 12, 2006, 09:46:50 AM
Quote"    The guys in the booth are saying, 'There he goes again, he's up to his old stuff again.' It's very unfair. ... It makes me hesitant to try to do what I need to do. "

So...yea. I'll bet.

QuoteHe even revealed that the ongoing issues he's faced the last few months, from a hamstring injury in training camp to an accidental overdose, have driven him to "sit in my house in the dark" instead of having much of a social life.

Yup. Here we go again with the feel sorry for me and my life act. I'm gonna go cry on the Donny Deustch show and explain how hard my life is. Wahhh. Wahhh.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eaglez on October 12, 2006, 10:20:25 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 09:43:03 AM
the offense has been fantastic

the defense is ranked 24th and has been good...but certainly not good enough to be sending out video dedications


it just cracks me up when homers over analyze the bad numbers to make them look better but take the good numbers at face value and run with them


Eaglez is being reasonable saying what i want to hear

fixed dunny

Don't get your panties in a bunch, IGY. I'm just offering some analysis. I offfered the same analysis on the offensive side, using the yards per play to determine how efficient the team actually is. It just so happens that the offense is racking up total AGGREGRATE (that means, whole, IGY) and yards, and they are efficient in their means in getting those yards by leading the league in yard per play.

You can put up straw men (that means misrepresenting someone's argument for the sake of making yourself look and/or feel better) as much as you want, but it just makes you look ridiculous.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 10:23:16 AM
less analysis and more common sense would serve you well young jedi
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Tomahawk on October 12, 2006, 11:35:20 AM
It does seem the Eagles' defense is making more big plays in the form of turnovers than previous years. They (the defense) has at least gotta be scoring more.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eaglez on October 12, 2006, 12:53:35 PM
Take everything at face value and don't examine concepts. Great advice, IGY.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: rjs246 on October 12, 2006, 01:07:14 PM
The defense is allowing 18 points per game. They allowed 10 to Houston, 24 to San Fran, 30 to the Giants, 9 to Green Bay and 17 to Dallas. The combined records of their opponents is 8-14. Four of the five quarterbacks they've played were #1 overall draft picks. The other is a first ballot hall of famer and a Superbowl winner. They lead the league in sacks and forced fumbles. They have 11 takeaways which is tied for 5th in the league. They are allowing 335 yards per game.

There's a lot of usefless information. Anyone can make anything they want out of it. Now please shut up.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: General_Failure on October 12, 2006, 01:11:27 PM
#1 picks consistently suck in the NFL.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: rjs246 on October 12, 2006, 01:14:44 PM
See? Anyone can make anything they want out of that info.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 01:23:56 PM
i take out of that info that the eagles defense definitely deserves its own youtube video tribute.....someone get on it
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 12, 2006, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 10:23:16 AM
less analysis and more common sense would serve you well young jedi

That's funny...I think I remember being bitched at for using common sense to explain why Hank Baskett wasn't getting, nor was he ever going to get awesome numbers in this offense...And not just rolling with "he sucks".

Say, how's Hank been doing now that he's moved up to the 4th target in the offense anyway?

::)
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: General_Failure on October 12, 2006, 02:12:15 PM
He still doesn't have the speed to get open.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 02:15:04 PM
lol @ you using one play to validate an opinion

hank baskett will never get awesome numbers in the nfl...he got a one once in a lifetime bomb because he was left alone with a safety and the qb made a great read and an even better throw

talk to me in a year or three (not after one play) and lets see what his numbers are...if hes even playing
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: mussa on October 12, 2006, 02:21:11 PM
I can't recall anyone ever saying he's going to have awesome numbers.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 12, 2006, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: mussa on October 12, 2006, 02:21:11 PM
I can't recall anyone ever saying he's going to have awesome numbers.

ha! read the "TO signs with dallas" thread
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: PhillyGirl on October 12, 2006, 02:22:54 PM
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/53985 :-D

Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 12, 2006, 03:18:11 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 02:15:04 PM
lol @ you using one play to validate an opinion

hank baskett will never get awesome numbers in the nfl...he got a one once in a lifetime bomb because he was left alone with a safety and the qb made a great read and an even better throw

talk to me in a year or three (not after one play) and lets see what his numbers are...if hes even playing

I'm not using one play. I'm using the increase in looks/production that he has seen since Stallworth went down with injury. Or am I just imagining that? Not to mention he almost made anotheer great catch sunday, and only dropped it because when he came down the ball jammed into his stomach/ribs.

And I've already said he won't put up "awesome" numbers...I simply said he doesn't suck just because he didn't have great numbers in the first 2 games of the year, like you badly wanted to think.

A player who can produce when more oppertunites are given to him is fine in my book. I hope Avant eventually over-takes him, obviously, but to say the 5th option in an offense sucks because he isn't producing a lot is....stupid.

Common sense, eh?
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: rjs246 on October 12, 2006, 03:23:42 PM
You're still saying that he doesn't suck for a fifth option. We're saying he sucks BECAUSE he is only the fifth option. Stop pretending like you don't get that. All it does is further prove your idiocy.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:26:46 PM
i never said he would suck....i said he will never get open in the nfl but he may have some value in the red zone and as a possesion guy

but in the same vein as you lauding him for one catch vs dallas i wouldnt come back monday and kill him when he has two catches for 11 yards against the saints....this is a two year plan for him and trying to validate your opinion of him on one catch when he has done absolutely nothing for the other five games is silly
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 12, 2006, 03:29:01 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on October 12, 2006, 03:23:42 PM
You're still saying that he doesn't suck for a fifth option. We're saying he sucks BECAUSE he is only the fifth option. Stop pretending like you don't get that. All it does is further prove your idiocy.

So Baskett sucks because the fans, the team, and even you know that Stallworth, Brown, LJ, and Westbrook should all get the ball before him? Because all four of those guys are better players then Baskett, he sucks?

Whoever the 3rd WR in this offense is, he will be the 5th option. If we suddently traded for Marvin Harrison, and Marv/Stallworth were our starters, and Reggie was bumped down...does that mean Reggie sucks now too? Or if the Eagles decided to target Reggie more then LJ, does that mean that LJ Smith now sucks?

Riiiiight. I get it now.  :crazy
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 12, 2006, 03:32:14 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:26:46 PM
i never said he would suck....i said he will never get open in the nfl but he may have some value in the red zone and as a possesion guy

but in the same vein as you lauding him for one catch vs dallas i wouldnt come back monday and kill him when he has two catches for 11 yards against the saints....this is a two year plan for him and trying to validate your opinion of him on one catch when he has done absolutely nothing for the other five games is silly

I'm pretty sure mr. negative over there said "he sucks" and you, in effect, agreed with him in another thread.

I've already stated that I'm not "validating my opinion on one play", I'm just saying he must not be as bad as you seem to think he is. As I "predicted" (I know you love that word), his numbers have gone up with the increase in looks since Stallworth got hurt. Yep, will never get open or produce. Ever.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:34:48 PM
he 'sucks' because the best he can ever be in this league is a possible possesion/red zone guy...and even that is far from certain

hes an undrafted guy who is only on the team because pinky couldnt play and he was the best avaible option...ill give him credit for being better than justin jenkins but in the end the best thing hell have ever done is allowed the eagles to get rid of billy mcmullen
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:39:14 PM
I'm just saying he must not be as bad as you seem to think he is.

and youre saying that because he had one catch vs dallas....which is ridiculous...i dont feel any different about him because of that catch nor do i think worse of him because he is going to have 25 catches

As I "predicted" (I know you love that word), his numbers have gone up with the increase in looks since Stallworth got hurt.

thats means nothing...i can predict next year in training camp that there is a great chance they draft a wr better than him or avant passes him...and he doesnt even make the team
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 12, 2006, 03:42:23 PM
Well as long as we're talking about that one play, wouldn't THAT be the best thing he's ever done for the Eagles thus far in his career?

But then again, I forgot, you never pick the Eagles to win. :-X

And I think he's been proving that he's more then a "red-zone" guy. And possession recievers don't suck...just ask MeShawn, or McCardell, or Joe Jurevicious, or Wayne Chrebet, eetc...


I'll take a guy who can run good routes and get open and be a possession guy. I think eventually Jason Avant will be battling him for the #3 job, but as of right now he's played well, and it shouldn't matter how "bad" you think he'll be in 3 years. If he's playing well now, what's the difference?

Oh, that's right...he's not playing well. Nope, not stepping up and producing more in increased time with our top option injured.  :yay
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Zanshin on October 12, 2006, 03:43:35 PM
Well, I don't think Reggie sucks...but he hasn't really impressed me this year.  I was expecting fewer dropped passes and better routes run.  He's okay, but I thought he'd be better.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 12, 2006, 03:45:18 PM
Quote from: Zanshin on October 12, 2006, 03:43:35 PM
Well, I don't think Reggies sucks...but he hasn't really impressed me this year.  I was expecting fewer dropped passes and better routes run.  He's okay, but I thought he'd be better.

Agree. Well, I think his routes have been fine (besides coming back to the ball/QB, that mistake needs to be cut out) but the dropped balls are....ugh. I think the coaches should just have he and McNabb stand 5 yards away from each other and just McNabb gun the ball right at this face. He'll learn how to catch better, or he'll need a new face.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 12, 2006, 03:49:21 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:39:14 PM
I'm just saying he must not be as bad as you seem to think he is.

and youre saying that because he had one catch vs dallas....which is ridiculous...i dont feel any different about him because of that catch nor do i think worse of him because he is going to have 25 catches

As I "predicted" (I know you love that word), his numbers have gone up with the increase in looks since Stallworth got hurt.

thats means nothing...i can predict next year in training camp that there is a great chance they draft a wr better than him or avant passes him...and he doesnt even make the team

Let me try to say this again, please read...

I'm not saying he isn't bad because of one catch. I'm saying he isn't bad because he has produced more and more each game, especially as his looks have increased. It just so happens that part of that production was a 80+ yard TD catch where he made the Cowboys FS his personal bitch, twice in one play. First by burning him and then slapping away his tackle like it was nothing.

I'm sorry if that's the mark of a bad WR or something. :boom
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:54:22 PM
he averages 2 catches per start and 1.5 when he doesnt start

crazy numbers kid

again youre clearly overly excited because of his one catch...and i understand that...it was a huge play...enjoy it...but it means nothing in terms of how good of a wr baskett is or will be...

in closing...

pump your brakes homie
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 12, 2006, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:54:22 PM
he averages 2 catches per start and 1.5 when he doesnt start

Clearly he's more productive when he starts.  Stallworth is averaging 0 catches in games that Baskett starts.  With those #'s don't be surprised if Stallworth comes in off the bench when he's healthy. 

Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: SunMo on October 12, 2006, 04:08:12 PM
sometimes, when i'm alone, i rub my nipples while replaying that Hank Baskett catch
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Seabiscuit36 on October 12, 2006, 04:12:41 PM
Quote from: SunMo on October 12, 2006, 04:08:12 PM
sometimes, when i'm alone, i rub my nipples while replaying that Hank Baskett catch
And i thought i was the only one  :paranoid
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: MURP on October 12, 2006, 04:34:11 PM
Im not going to debate the future of Hank Baskett, but I think it is interesting to see where he compares to other rookie WR's who were taken in the draft:

player,  receptions, Yards, TD's,  +20 yard plays

1.  Santonio Holmes: 7, 73, 0, 0
2.  Chad Jackson: 4, 51, 1, 1
3. Sinorice Moss: 1, 4, 0, 0
4. Greg Jennings:  20, 364, 3, 8
5. Travis Wilson: 0, 0, 0, 0
6. Derek Hagan: 2, 31, 0, 0
7. Brandon Williams:  0,0,0,0
8. Maurice Stovall: 0,0,0,0
9. Willie Reid:  0,0,0,0
10. Brad Smith: 3,5,0,0
11. Cory Rodgers:  0,0,0,0
.
.
.
Hank Baskett:  7,172, 1, 3
Marques Colston:  23,374,3,6


So Far, Baskett has outperformed just about all rookie WR's other than Greg Jennings and Marques Colston. 

edit: added Colston. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: SunMo on October 12, 2006, 04:37:58 PM
don't forget Marques Colston
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: MURP on October 12, 2006, 04:39:14 PM
yes, and Marques Colston the phenom. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Eaglez on October 12, 2006, 04:46:30 PM
There is a lot of speculation that is going on. And, yeah, I agree, random facts tell you nothing. What you need to do is apply facts to frameworks to derive some sort of reasoned conclusion.

If someone says someone sucks, and the other person says someone is great -- you are simply making a value judgment. Unless you substantiate those claims you've gotten nowhere. Even worse is when someone says someone sucks because they are bad -- plain circular reasoning.

Eh, it's become readily apparent that it's not worth talking about statisical breakdowns because too many people endulge in hyperbole.

So I guess the extent of the debate should just stick to OMGG!! THE EAGLES ARE AWSUM!! LOL!

Or OMMG! THE EAGLES ARE HORRIBELL! HIGHLIGHT VIDEOS ARE KEWL! XOMVCG
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Phanatic on October 12, 2006, 05:57:34 PM
How about discussing how appropriate "Punk Bitch" is as TO's new moniker? Statistically speaking of course...
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: General_Failure on October 12, 2006, 06:13:36 PM
It appears to be an anomaly as a moniker used by Americans, and can be ignored.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: micc on October 14, 2006, 09:56:06 PM
I agree with a couple of the other poster, the BEST part of that play was Shawn Barber clapping his arms gator-style to mock MEO's obvious aligator arms...I didn't catch it the first time, but I caught it NFL Replay...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv_Wsn7XpLw

//spamgasm
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: 4and26 on October 15, 2006, 12:51:35 PM
Ahhh just had to watch that again....
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 18, 2006, 02:57:51 PM
As I "predicted" (I know you love that word), his numbers have gone up with the increase in looks since Stallworth got hurt.

while i dont recall seeing him stallworth must have been back sunday...or did someone else steal basketts 2 catches a game
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Feva on October 18, 2006, 07:29:32 PM
Stallworth did let him keep the drops though.
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 19, 2006, 01:55:52 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 12, 2006, 03:26:46 PM
i never said he would suck....i said he will never get open in the nfl but he may have some value in the red zone and as a possesion guy

but in the same vein as you lauding him for one catch vs dallas i wouldnt come back monday and kill him when he has two catches for 11 yards against the saints....this is a two year plan for him and trying to validate your opinion of him on one catch when he has done absolutely nothing for the other five games is silly


1. Way to not come back and kill him.
2. Man he's having a lot of trouble getting open. Defiantely too slow for the NFL.
3. He had a bad game. What player in the offense hasn't had a bad game yet (not named Donovan McNabb)? Certainly all the vets have, let alone the UDFA.
4. If Stallworth doesn't play this weekend, expect to see Hank get a lot of targets again as the #4 option in the offensive attack....Reid must really think he's no good, putting him out on the field like that. We all know how Reid plays his rookie WR's as much as possible... :yay

I repeat...Hank Baskett has been solid and has for hte most part produced when being given the looks to do it. He showed Sunday that while having promise, he is still a rookie and still liable to have mental break downs during a game. Yep...cut Hank. :D
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 19, 2006, 08:10:47 AM
I don't know how or why this thread went from talking about what a punk/bitch TO is to arguing over whether or not Hank Baskett will be any good but you bastiches better effing fix it.  NOW! 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 19, 2006, 08:14:14 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 19, 2006, 08:10:47 AM
I don't know how or why this thread went from talking about what a punk/bitch TO is to arguing over whether or not Hank Baskett will be any good but you bastiches better effing fix it.  NOW! 

You're as big a punk as TO, Sassy.

How's that?  :D
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Sgt PSN on October 19, 2006, 08:50:34 AM
You can do better. 
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Geowhizzer on October 19, 2006, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 19, 2006, 08:50:34 AM
You can do better. 

For who?  For What?
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: ice grillin you on October 19, 2006, 09:55:10 AM
1. Way to not come back and kill him.

i came back to kill you....hank is what he is...cant hate on him...but i can hate on homers

Reid must really think he's no good, putting him out on the field like that

lol
Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Phanatic on October 19, 2006, 12:23:18 PM
So are we going down the all that "disagree with my miserable outlook" are homers route? I've now read this homer comment twice.

The Eagles recievers are inexperianced outside of Stallworth who is hurt.
Baskett may or may not be a good player. Speaking in absolutes one way or the other smells like ass.
McNabb has played amazing but might choke in big games. Though I actually think the coaching staff chokes not McNabb. Homer away!

Absolute lock of the day: TO is indeed a big phat Punk Bitch!

Title: Re: TO/Punk Bitch
Post by: Munson on October 19, 2006, 02:02:46 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on October 19, 2006, 12:23:18 PM
So are we going down the all that "disagree with my miserable outlook" are homers route? I've now read this homer comment twice.

The Eagles recievers are inexperianced outside of Stallworth who is hurt.
Baskett may or may not be a good player. Speaking in absolutes one way or the other smells like ass.
McNabb has played amazing but might choke in big games. Though I actually think the coaching staff chokes not McNabb. Homer away!

Absolute lock of the day: TO is indeed a big phat Punk Bitch!



Yeah I'm a homer because I've observed that Hank has played well, especially for a UDFA, and has proven he has the ability to get open...something our friend IGY here doesn't want to believe.

I am never, ever critical of the team, and I think Hank BAskett is amazing. I really do. I've said it in every post I've posted about him. Just go ahead and read...IGY seems to find me saying that somewhere. ???

I think the team is pretty good, with probably its best group of non-TO WR's since they had Irving Fryar. Total homer right there.

All that being said....TO is a punk bitch, and I can't wait for him to again put up crappy numbers and complain about how it's the rest of the team and the coaches fault. :yay