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Title: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 29, 2006, 05:53:23 PM
Shocking! (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2565423)

A blurb:

QuoteAs of Tuesday afternoon, three teams had indicated an interest in Pinkston, a second-round selection in the 2000 draft. At least two of the three receiver-needy franchises would likely view Pinkston as a starter, if he is healthy. Pinkston has conceded, though, he is not pain-free yet as he continues to recover from the Achilles injury suffered last summer in training camp.

Even teams legitimately interested in Pinkston will have some concerns about his health and also might be willing to gamble that he will be released this weekend, when teams must reduce their rosters to the regular season limit of 53 players. Philadelphia is set at the two starting wideout spots, with Stallworth and second-year veteran Reggie Brown, and the coaches like some of the youngsters they've brought in, too.

The teams interested in Pinkston likely are attracted by his outstanding deep speed and career average of 15.3 yards per catch.

Lenny P loves him sum Pinky.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: The BIGSTUD on August 29, 2006, 05:55:39 PM
Lenny loves him some Segal.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 29, 2006, 05:57:41 PM
Teams off the top of my head that could use him:

Niners (2nd WR is Arnaz Battle)
Bears (2nd WR is a competition between Bernard Berrian and Mark Bradley)
Vikings (Childress loves him some Eagles' throw-aways)
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: The BIGSTUD on August 29, 2006, 05:59:09 PM
I'd agree with those teams. Instead of swapping Pinkston and a pick, I could see something like Pinkston and the Eagles 7th for a 5th.

Otherwise, I don't see how anyone could give higher than a 6th or 7th in a swap.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: General_Failure on August 29, 2006, 06:00:01 PM
I'd trade him for Simoneau.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Dillen on August 29, 2006, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 29, 2006, 05:57:41 PM
Teams off the top of my head that could use him:

Niners (2nd WR is Arnaz Battle)
Bears (2nd WR is a competition between Bernard Berrian and Mark Bradley)
Vikings (Childress loves him some Eagles' throw-aways)
I dont think the Bears would need him. Before his injury, Bradley looked better than Pinkston ever has except his one good season.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: The BIGSTUD on August 29, 2006, 06:10:52 PM
Maybe we trade a guy in Pinkston who is going to get cut for a LB or RB somewhere that is going to get cut.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2006, 06:15:14 PM
Pinkston to Chicago for Erlaker!!11!11 z0mg psst boom bang ha! p\/nk3d :) ;) ;D >:( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-X :-\ :-* :'( >:D ^-^ :-D :deion :paranoid :-o :poison :sly :evil :boo :afro O:) :flipoff :bash :fire :CF :cfhead :drool :puke :nyuk :spank :splat :splat :splat :splat :splat :win :bow :crazy :chair!!!11!
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on August 29, 2006, 06:20:44 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2006, 06:15:14 PM
Pinkston to Chicago for Erlaker!!11!11 z0mg psst boom bang ha! p\/nk3d :) ;) ;D >:( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-X :-\ :-* :'( >:D ^-^ :-D :deion :paranoid :-o :poison :sly :evil :boo :afro O:) :flipoff :bash :fire :CF :cfhead :drool :puke :nyuk :spank :splat :splat :splat :splat :splat :win :bow :crazy :chair!!!11!

Die now!
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2006, 06:28:47 PM
You heart me, don't you? 
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on August 29, 2006, 07:23:53 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2006, 06:28:47 PM
You heart me, don't you? 

Oh, absolutely.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2006, 07:57:04 PM
You should have joined the Navy. 
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Wingspan on August 29, 2006, 08:01:23 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2006, 06:15:14 PM
Pinkston to Chicago for Erlaker!!11!11 z0mg psst boom bang ha! p\/nk3d :) ;) ;D >:( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-X :-\ :-* :'( >:D ^-^ :-D :deion :paranoid :-o :poison :sly :evil :boo :afro O:) :flipoff :bash :fire :CF :cfhead :drool :puke :nyuk :spank :splat :splat :splat :splat :splat :win :bow :crazy :chair!!!11!

i hate you for laughing at that
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on August 29, 2006, 08:33:04 PM
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 29, 2006, 07:57:04 PM
You should have joined the Navy. 

I tried, but I was too much of a drunk.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: California Eagle on August 29, 2006, 08:38:51 PM
bye bye TP :-D  I doubt anyone will trade for him. He's gonna get realesed!
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Flyin High on August 29, 2006, 10:10:21 PM
could pinkston actually pass a physical with another team?  if a miracle did happen.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Diomedes on August 29, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
I wish him the best.  I hold nothing against Todd Pinkston.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Beermonkey on August 29, 2006, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 29, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
I wish him the best.  I hold nothing against Todd Pinkston.

Neither did I. It's unfortunate that his whole career has been defined by 2 games. I hope he's productive wherever he ends up.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Drunkmasterflex on August 29, 2006, 10:35:54 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 29, 2006, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 29, 2006, 10:12:27 PM
I wish him the best.  I hold nothing against Todd Pinkston.

Neither did I. It's unfortunate that his whole career has been defined by 2 games. I hope he's productive wherever he ends up.

The only game I ever hold against him is the NFCCG and him getting b!tch slapped.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: The BIGSTUD on August 29, 2006, 10:38:39 PM
Him losing afraid of getting popped by Taylor and the Superbowl cramps thing was weak too, but I've never been a Pinkston hater.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: ice grillin you on August 29, 2006, 10:54:51 PM
pinky = 8th rounder
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 29, 2006, 11:55:04 PM
Chiefs could be an option along with the teams FF listed.

But I think this is just Lenny P pimping him.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: BigEd76 on August 30, 2006, 12:37:54 AM
The Saints need a WR, and Pinkston is from southern Mississippi....
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: General_Failure on August 30, 2006, 12:44:25 AM
They didn't need a WR yesterday.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Feva on August 30, 2006, 12:51:45 AM
If Todd Pinkston lands us a draft pick on his way out the door... wow. :-D
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: General_Failure on August 30, 2006, 01:04:01 AM
Get Hollis Thomas!
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PhillyandBCEagles on August 30, 2006, 01:15:41 AM
TRADE PINKY FOR SIMS!
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 07:25:49 AM
Pinkston "lost the ball in the lights" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls794MhIkU4)

Later in same game, he redeems himself, but looks retarded doing it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bKAtA-B4s0)
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 07:26:59 AM
My favorite Pinky play of all time: "Take that, Jacques Reeves!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBeJHgmQexY)
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: T_Section224 on August 30, 2006, 07:47:27 AM
i can't wait to see the "Eagles give Mahe OK to seek trade" thread
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Beermonkey on August 30, 2006, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: T_Section224 on August 30, 2006, 07:47:27 AM
i can't wait to see the "Eagles give Mahe OK to seek trade" thread

I hope he goes too, since with Pinkston, Simoneau & Mahe gone, 90% of the bitching about individual players on Eagles message boards will be eliminated.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: rjs246 on August 30, 2006, 09:44:14 AM
Please. We'll still find a lot to bitch about. Pffft.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 30, 2006, 07:25:49 AM
Pinkston "lost the ball in the lights" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls794MhIkU4)

You would argue that pass was catchable?
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: SunMo on August 30, 2006, 09:46:34 AM
you would agrue it wasn't?
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: rjs246 on August 30, 2006, 09:47:10 AM
I would argue that the Eagles will get nothing for Pinkston.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 09:47:36 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 09:45:52 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 30, 2006, 07:25:49 AM
Pinkston "lost the ball in the lights" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls794MhIkU4)

You would argue that pass was catchable?

It was absolutely catchable.  Pinkston slowed down and then completely stopped.  If he continued in stride, it would have been a great pass and catch.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: SunMo on August 30, 2006, 09:48:16 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 30, 2006, 09:47:36 AM

It was absolutely catchable.  Pinkston slowed down and then completely stopped.  If he continued in stride, it would have been a great pass and catch.

or at least a pass interference call
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 09:49:06 AM
The ball was behind him, AND the defender.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 09:50:06 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 09:49:06 AM
The ball was behind him, AND the defender.

Yes, because he farging stopped.  Twice.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: ice grillin you on August 30, 2006, 09:50:35 AM
lets all break down a  pinkston pass play from three years ago
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: SunMo on August 30, 2006, 09:51:02 AM
behind him? it was a perfect pass if he had kept running, it would've hit him in stride.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: MURP on August 30, 2006, 09:51:53 AM
QuoteEagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade

6 years too late.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 10:57:53 AM
Quote from: SunMo on August 30, 2006, 09:51:02 AM
behind him? it was a perfect pass if he had kept running, it would've hit him in stride.

Perfect pass my ass.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: SunMo on August 30, 2006, 10:58:33 AM
i know you love pinkston and all, but that pass was there to be caught and he punked out, like normal
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 11:00:15 AM
I know you hate Pinkston and all,  but that pass was not going to be caught by anyone, and he didn't try for it, unlike usual.

:P
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: SunMo on August 30, 2006, 11:01:57 AM
i don't know how you can say it wouldn't be caught by anyone.  it was right online until he stopped.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 11:02:27 AM
I watched the clip again and paused it when the ball hit the ground - no more than 3 yards from Pinkston.

It is completely laughable that you would call it a bad pass.  It was actually no worse than the pass Pinkston caught later in the game, that other clip I posted.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to seek trade
Post by: ice grillin you on August 30, 2006, 11:49:32 AM
its exchanges like this that makes me happy the board never works anymore
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2006, 01:10:16 PM
Former NFL player who did like to play in traffic... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood)

QuoteAfter he escaped from a psychiatric care facility, he was released from the Miami Dolphins in December 1999. He later signed with the Dallas Cowboys with a two year contract. During the 2000-2001 seasons, Underwood had 21 tackles and 4 sacks in 19 games. In January 2001, tried to kill himself for the second time by running into traffic twice on a busy suburban highway.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: Geowhizzer on August 30, 2006, 01:10:21 PM
Sorry, Dio, but I disagree.  That pass could/should have been caught, in my opinion.

And I liked Skinny.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 30, 2006, 01:13:47 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2006, 01:10:16 PM
Former NFL player who did like to play in traffic... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitrius_Underwood)

QuoteAfter he escaped from a psychiatric care facility, he was released from the Miami Dolphins in December 1999. He later signed with the Dallas Cowboys with a two year contract. During the 2000-2001 seasons, Underwood had 21 tackles and 4 sacks in 19 games. In January 2001, tried to kill himself for the second time by running into traffic twice on a busy suburban highway.


How in the farg did you come up with that gem? lolz1
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: T_Section224 on August 30, 2006, 01:17:26 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 30, 2006, 01:13:47 PMHow in the farg did you come up with that gem? lolz1
phreak is a wealth of usless sports knowledge of funny stories.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on August 30, 2006, 01:21:02 PM
My brain is overloaded with useless shtein. I..I can't explain it. :-D
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: MURP on August 30, 2006, 01:21:47 PM
re-watching that Pinkston/taterskins alligator body play still makes me furious.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 01:24:48 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 30, 2006, 01:21:47 PM
re-watching that Pinkston/taterskins alligator body play still makes me furious.

It's easier if you're able to buy into Dio's bullshtein about it being a bad throw.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: T_Section224 on August 30, 2006, 01:25:46 PM
but it was a bad throw
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 01:27:19 PM
Atta boy.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: T_Section224 on August 30, 2006, 01:47:08 PM
here's a video for ya murp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls794MhIkU4
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: Dillen on August 30, 2006, 01:54:50 PM
Quote from: T_Section224 on August 30, 2006, 01:47:08 PM
here's a video for ya murp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls794MhIkU4

Quotegallowspole   (1 hour ago)
Never trust a receiver born with a vagina.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: ice grillin you on August 30, 2006, 02:15:25 PM
i always bought the lost it in the lights excuse as pinky was clearly not comfortable having to look up for a mcnabb pass
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 02:16:07 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 30, 2006, 02:15:25 PM
i always bought the lost it in the lights excuse as pinky was clearly not comfortable having to look up for a mcnabb pass being in pads and playing professional football

Right.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PhillyPhanInDC on August 30, 2006, 02:18:45 PM
That play would have been so much better if Clark had crushed him anyway, and then Taylor would spit on Pinky's vadge as he lay sprawled, gargling on the field.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 30, 2006, 01:24:48 PM
It's easier if you're able to buy into Dio's bullshtein about it being a bad throw.

The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that he's not half the Hoyda you guys think he is.

He slows up for the pass at the 19 on the left hash, from which position there is NO way he could have caught the ball, and he saw as much.  At that point, the play was over.  Then he sees the defender and ducks the hit.  The ball landed behind him and the defender, between the hashes, at the 16 or so.  Well outside of reach, given Pinks position and (at that point, lack of) momentum.  If he had continued running instead of slowing up then he might have caught the ball, and wouldn't have taken a huge hit, because the catch would have been two or three strides further down field, preventing the defender from lining him up from across the field.  But Pinkston misjudged where the ball was, slowed up too soon, and was out of position.  It was not catchable given their positions and momentum.

The throw was good, I was mistaken to intimate otherwise.  Pinkston blew the play, but not by ducking the hit.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 02:21:23 PM
Taylor is the best expectorator in the league, even if he's not truly the best safety as some might wrongly believe.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: Dillen on August 30, 2006, 03:45:42 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 02:20:50 PM
The throw was good, I was mistaken to intimate otherwise.  Pinkston blew the play, but not by ducking the hit.
He blew the play by ducking the hit. He's on the 19 about a second before the ball lands. Run a yard more and jump in the farging air. He could have had that play so easily, still.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: MadMarchHare on August 30, 2006, 07:23:59 PM
I don't hate ToothPink, I just feel he was completely one-dimensional.  That one-dimension was useful, and the Birds really missed it last season, but there are guys who can run fast and be more productive than ToothPink (like Stallworth, I hope), and that's why I'm glad his ass was kicked to the curb.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 07:27:08 PM
He blew the play by stopping up too soon.  The ducking was insult to injury.  That's the last I'm gonna say about the play.  Have fun thinking he's a Hoyda, tough guys.

Mad, I completely agree. 
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: rjs246 on August 30, 2006, 07:27:42 PM
I agree with MMH. Again.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: MadMarchHare on August 30, 2006, 07:32:12 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 07:27:08 PM
He blew the play by stopping up too soon.  The ducking was insult to injury.  That's the last I'm gonna say about the play.  Have fun thinking he's a Hoyda, tough guys.

Mad, I completely agree. 

Having just watched that video, you're dead on Dio.  If he had kept running full speed it would have landed on the numbers, and he probably scores.  He pulled up, most likely because he lost track of the ball.

BTW, if you want a real laugh, go to Wikipedia and search for Todd Pinkston.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on August 30, 2006, 09:14:02 PM
Some of it is not funny - just sad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Pinkston
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: Feva on August 31, 2006, 12:57:57 AM
QuoteHe was cut in August shortly after the Eagles traded for New Orleans Saints receiver Donte Stallworth

Damn, they're fast.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: General_Failure on August 31, 2006, 01:02:22 AM
Wiki people update constantly. They get obsessive about it. Go look up Pluto.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: MURP on August 31, 2006, 09:09:29 AM
I cant believe anyone buys that lost in the lights shtein.  Pinkston saw the safety coming to clean his clock.  It's called peripheral vision.  He fargin bailed on that play in one of the most pathetic things i've seen on a football field.  Luckily for Pink,  Marcus Vick stepping on Elvis' knee takes the cake as the worst. 
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: Cerevant on September 01, 2006, 12:01:41 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 30, 2006, 07:27:08 PM
He blew the play by stopping up too soon.  The ducking was insult to injury.  That's the last I'm gonna say about the play.  Have fun thinking he's a Hoyda, tough guys.

I agree - he stopped the pattern short and looked up for the ball, and started back-pedaling.  When he saw the safety come he ducked.  The second he turned for the ball it was over - McNabb threw it so he could run under it.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: reese125 on September 01, 2006, 01:20:21 PM
Minnesota is currently in discussions with free agent WR Todd Pinkston.
A deal is not thought to be imminent due to the uncertain status of the former Eagle's Achilles. Pinkston would likely not be guaranteed a starting job if he were to end up with the Vikings.
Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune:

Brad Childress confirmed the Vikings are talking with the agent for free agent receiver Todd Pinkston.

Sounds like a few teams are interested in Pinkston and quite frankly there is probably no hurry because he's not 100 percent due to the Achilles' tendon injury that ended his 2005 season. Pinkston likely would benefit from some time off.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: BigEd76 on September 01, 2006, 08:36:22 PM
PFT is reporting a done deal....1-yr vet minimum.  Childress luvs him some Eagles leftovers
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PhillyPhreak54 on September 01, 2006, 08:43:31 PM
Hah.

I betcha the Vikings fans loins are wet with excitement.
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: BigEd76 on September 09, 2006, 05:44:19 PM
Childress doesn't want him either (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2580757)
Title: Re: Eagles give Pinkston OK to play in traffic
Post by: PoopyfaceMcGee on September 09, 2006, 05:55:44 PM
I laugh at those who actually counted on him coming back healthy this year.

Die, Todd.