QuotePatriots | Branch given permission to seek trade
Fri, 25 Aug 2006 11:15:51 -0700
ESPNews reports the New England Patriots have given WR Deion Branch permission to seek a trade.
Good thing we got Stallworth. We don't need no stinkin' Deion Branch!1
Get him.
Don't delay. Don't quibble. Just f'ing get him.
No way I get my hopes up for this. Nope. No sir. No how. Nada.
Brown, Baskett, Avant, Gaffney, Pinkston, McCants. Get used to it.
Pfft - too late. That being said, no way it happens.
I hate you. Stop getting my hopes up and expecting my team to do something.
gotta give him a lot of money too....not gonna happen
the eagles give money AND a high pick for him.....HA
If he was TO calibre, I could see the FO doing that, sure, especially if they saw WR as a need position. But Branch ain't TO calibre, and the season starts in 2 weeks. Ain't gonna happen.
Believe me... I don't want to get my hopes up, but DAMN!
The Eagles need to make this happen. They've got the picks, they've got the money.
Quit farging around... get it done.
Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him. Get him.
End of story.
I think Jason Licht (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/frontofficebio.jsp?id=1255) was partially behind the decision to draft Branch. That could be a big factor.
Or not, because I totally think they're going to trade with NO for Stallworth. Maybe a backup player and a 4th rounder.
dumb idea
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 25, 2006, 02:44:08 PM
I think Jason Licht (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/frontofficebio.jsp?id=1255) was partially behind the decision to draft Branch. That could be a big factor.
Take your very logical assumptions and cram them up your wishful ass. Why god?! WHY!?
PFT.com
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PATS EXTEND OLIVE BRANCH TO DEION?
Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe reports that the Patriots have released the following statement:
"The New England Patriots have given Deion Branch permission to seek a trade and negotiate a contract with other clubs. This permission will extend until September 1, 2006."
Here's our take on the development: The team is trying to soften him up to end his holdout.
The problem is that Branch still has a limb up his knothole regarding the five-year deal that he signed as a rookie, and the fact that the team's prior offer of a multi-year contract is less valuable in his eyes because he doesn't want an extension but a replacement of the final year of his rookie deal.
In essence, he wants to be paid like an unrestricted free agent, even though he's under contract for another year.
So the Pats are letting him shop for other offers, knowing full well that any offers he might receive will also take into account the fact that the Super Bowl XXXIX MVP is still under contract for a year. Further reducing the value of any contract that another team might present to him is the fact that compensation must be given to the Patriots in order to acquire his rights.
Thus, at a time when Branch has expressed a belief that "everything's going to work out," the Pats have given Deion an olive branch of sorts in order to further nudge him into coming back. He'll feel like the team is being cooperative by letting him try to get the best deal possible, even if the team has no intention at the end of the day to give up his rights. The only risk is that Branch and his agent will use this opportunity as a way to gauge the market for his services in March 2007.
Then again, that might be a good thing for the Pats, since Branch would likely realize that he's not going to command Moss or Marvin money if the Patriots choose not to apply the franchise tag.
Our guess? Branch will conclude that he's not going to get many or any offers better than the one he didn't accept from New England, and he'll decide to report in time to get paid his full salary for 2006, hoping that the team will eventually put back on the table the offer that was yanked after Branch's agent, Jason Chayut, likely alienated the organization by taking his case to the media.
Licht was with the Pats through the 2003 draft. Branch was drafted in 2002.
You have to believe that his opinion of Branch could really push this one way or another. Frankly, Licht is in a position that if he thinks a player is absolutely worth getting, he can get him. He's Heckert's main man. He's probably going to have a big say on what the Eagles are willing to give up for Donte Stallworth.
Stop toying with us.
The good Lord can not continue to dangle these WR's in front of us like this and not allow us to grab one of them, can he? :-\
Cuz, he cares about football you know...
I expect Stallworth, not Branch, to be an Eagle by Monday night, after Reid and Heckert see Pinkston "play" tonight.
Boston.com link (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2006/08/25/patriots_give_branch_a_week_to_seek_a_trade)
1 week
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 25, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
Cuz, he cares about football you know...
Why else would they play it on Sunday? It is God's only day off.
Do we really need a *OFFICIAL* Get this or that player everytime one comes available?
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 25, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
The good Lord can not continue to dangle these WR's in front of us like this and not allow us to grab one of them, can he? :-\
Cuz, he cares about football you know...
I thought God was a taterskins fan?
shut up
Quote from: Phanatic on August 25, 2006, 02:53:21 PM
Do we really need a *OFFICIAL* Get this or that player everytime one comes available?
This is not *a* player.
Branch is better than any of the WR's that were UFA's this year. He's better than Moulds and Lelie combined. He's 26 years old and has made big plays in big games.
So, in this case... yes, we need a thread on how important it would be to get him or another talented deep threat like Donte Stallworth on the Eagles.
He did cost us the superbowl.
no, that was Andy Reid and Jim Johnson, and the QB a lil bit
exactly.
That game was won and lost at the lines. Ours got zero pressure on Brady and allowed them to run the ball. Theirs got a ton of pressure on McNabb and rendered Westbrook useless.
Quote from: Lil' Miss SunMo on August 25, 2006, 03:02:21 PM
no, that was Andy Reid and Jim Johnson, and the QB a lil bit
shut up
damn, I wasnt expecting that
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 25, 2006, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on August 25, 2006, 02:53:21 PM
Do we really need a *OFFICIAL* Get this or that player everytime one comes available?
This is not *a* player.
Branch is better than any of the WR's that were UFA's this year. He's better than Moulds and Lelie combined. He's 26 years old and has made big plays in big games.
So, in this case... yes, we need a thread on how important it would be to get him on the Eagles.
Exactly. This is not just adding a band-aid until we can draft someone else in a year or two. This is a young stud of a WR who we can extend to a contract that would be a big step towards not having to worry about the WR's for the next 5 years.
We **offically** need to sign his ass.
that's how I roll
anywhoo...is there anyway we can get Donnie Edwards while we're getting Branch? sweet.
let me guess....
Eskin: Andy, do you have any interest in Deion Branch now that hes available"?
Andy, "the WR's are doing a nice job....were comfortable with what we have in there."
Eskin: "you fat farg, do you realize what just became avilable?"
GET HIM :yay...I just don't think Pinky will hold up this year but we can use him anyway...he is not an unknown commodity
do any of you, ANY, actually truly think they will even try to get him?
Quote from: Lil' Miss SunMo on August 25, 2006, 03:13:31 PM
do any of you, ANY, actually truly think they will even try to get him?
If by try, you mean offer a 7th and Juqua Thomas for him, then yes.
no..but we'll write about it till our fingertips bleed
i mean seriously try
Can all of this please stop? It isn't going to happen.
he isnt going anywhere...the patriots (kill yourself if you call them the pats) want him to find out that he is overpricing himself by going out on the open market...and if by chance he finds the money he is looking for then the team has a real number they can touch and negotiate with...expect him to sign with new england by next wednesday
If the Pats are actually serious about trading him, and that isn't a sure thing yet. A lot of people think they are just doing it to show to him his value there is fair. Well if they are serious, this is a guy the Eagles would actually give up something of value for, and he's someone who is actually worth it. Superbowl MVP, sure-handed guy, good character guy, and he has speed. All things the Eagles look for in a player. They'd give up a 3rd for Branch, and possibly even a second, though I wouldn't bet on it. After all they were willing to give up a 2nd according to rumors for Walker.
But after saying all that. Chances of it happening? Slim. Just because it's too good to be true, and the Pats probably have no real intention of trading their franchise QB's favorite target. If they are though, the Eagles will probably make a strong push for him.
besides torching the Eagles in the SB is he really an elite WR that is tons better than Reggie Brown?
i dont know that hes elite but hes tons better than reggie brown
How do the Eagles and Patriots compare regarding cap space ???
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 25, 2006, 04:07:54 PM
besides torching the Eagles in the SB is he really an elite WR that is tons better than Reggie Brown?
He wouldn't be replacing Brown so who gives a shtein?
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 25, 2006, 04:07:54 PM
besides torching the Eagles in the SB is he really an elite WR that is tons better than Reggie Brown?
Reggie Brown
could be great. One thing is for sure, Branch is light years ahead of
anyone currently holding a spot on this team at WR. Brown could explode into the next Chad Johnson, but the chances of him figuring it out with the help of a solid #1 guy like Branch are much higher than him working it out on his own. Branch isn't an "elite" #1, but he is a very solid number one, who doesn't come with all of the baggage the huge names do. I guess to answer your question, at this point, seeing what we all have seen, he is tons better than Reggie Brown. No doubt.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 25, 2006, 04:07:22 PM
Chances of it happening? Slim. Just because it's too good to be true, and the Pats probably have no real intention of trading their franchise QB's favorite target. If they are though, the Eagles will probably make a strong push for him.
He'll (meaning Stallworth) be an Eagle by 5:57pm Monday!!!1!!!!!!!!!!
The Eagles are the cap champions and the Patriots are ex-Superbowl chamions.
Really though? I'm not sure. I think the Pats are probably around middle of the pack, while the Eagles as we all know are among the tops under the cap every year.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2006, 04:05:47 PM
he isnt going anywhere...the patriots (kill yourself if you call them the pats) want him to find out that he is overpricing himself by going out on the open market...and if by chance he finds the money he is looking for then the team has a real number they can touch and negotiate with...expect him to sign with new england by next wednesday
Mort even said on espn radio and he said he thought that NE's idea here is that Branch will find that what they offered him will equal or exceed what anyone else is willing to give him.
IGY, Im tattooing your name on my bicep
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2006, 04:09:06 PM
i dont know that hes elite but hes tons better than reggie brown
I wouldn't classify him as 'elite' yet either, but at 26 years old with SB MVP in his pocket he can definitely reach that level. That said, get him. 2nd rounder + whatever they want and get this done. Give him a Walker type deal since we have the available space and our WRs are set for the next 5 seasons.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 25, 2006, 04:12:00 PM
The Eagles are the cap champions and the Patriots are ex-Superbowl chamions.
Really though? I'm not sure. I think the Pats are probably around middle of the pack, while the Eagles as we all know are among the tops under the cap every year.
well you surely know they didnt spend money on any LBs!!
If nothing else, it would be nice for Brown to have someone hear he could learn from.
That said, it'll never happen.
It's definitely too good to be true. A Superbowl MVP falling into the Eagles' lap after us talking about how we are all out of options? No way that happens to a Philly team. If he does come here he'll blow out his knee week 1.
damn i didnt realize he was only 26
turned 27 last month
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 25, 2006, 04:07:54 PM
besides torching the Eagles in the SB is he really an elite WR that is tons better than Reggie Brown?
highly elite, and he had one good year and a super bowl performance--- with not one 1000 yd receiving year.
but he is proven unlike Reggie who we really need to stop tarzanning from
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 25, 2006, 04:14:35 PM
If he does come here he'll blow out his knee week 1.
Truest post of your life.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2006, 04:14:38 PM
damn i didnt realize he was only 26
Actually, he turned 27 in July. Forget it. He's old.
You guys are all farging nuts. Stop it. Right now. Just stop it.
Quote from: Father Demon on August 25, 2006, 04:18:30 PM
You guys are all farging nuts. Stop it. Right now. Just stop it.
classic avatar
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 25, 2006, 04:13:24 PM
well you surely know they didnt spend money on any LBs!!
HA!
Not really
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2006, 04:05:47 PM
he isnt going anywhere...the patriots (kill yourself if you call them the pats) want him to find out that he is overpricing himself by going out on the open market..
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 25, 2006, 04:07:22 PM
If the Pats are actually serious about trading him, and that isn't a sure thing yet.
Am I the only one that found this funny? It was only minutes.
So has everyone calmed down after the initial burst of excitement and realized that the Patriots are not going to let him go and have all the power to turn down any trade offer they receive? Good. Lock.
Does it burn when you pee, Rusty?
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 25, 2006, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2006, 04:05:47 PM
he isnt going anywhere...the patriots (kill yourself if you call them the pats) want him to find out that he is overpricing himself by going out on the open market..
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 25, 2006, 04:07:22 PM
If the Pats are actually serious about trading him, and that isn't a sure thing yet.
Am I the only one that found this funny? It was only minutes.
They're boyfriend and girlfriend. Cute, isn't it?
It's bad enough that I post here so much, Adam, must you also remind everyone that I actually have a real name? Your internet etiquette is atrocious.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 25, 2006, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on August 25, 2006, 02:53:21 PM
Do we really need a *OFFICIAL* Get this or that player everytime one comes available?
This is not *a* player.
Branch is better than any of the WR's that were UFA's this year. He's better than Moulds and Lelie combined. He's 26 years old and has made big plays in big games.
So, in this case... yes, we need a thread on how important it would be to get him on the Eagles.
OK Just checking...
Pats, Pats, Pats, Pats, Pats, and Pats!
I think Branch is one of the better WRs in the league and I would love for the Eagles to get him. That being said there is no way the Eagles get him.
oh how everyone forgets about HANK BASKETT HYSTERIA Q*(#&%^&*@#%^@*(&^
Quote from: rjs246 on August 25, 2006, 05:09:38 PM
It's bad enough that I post here so much, Adam, must you also remind everyone that I actually have a real name? Your internet etiquette is atrocious.
Settle down, Elliott.
Quote from: MURP on August 25, 2006, 05:26:30 PM
oh how everyone forgets about HANK BASKETT HYSTERIA Q*(#&%^&*@#%^@*(&^
:-D Well there is nothing like players that are potentially available to get the masses excited.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 25, 2006, 02:51:00 PM
The good Lord can not continue to dangle these WR's in front of us like this and not allow us to grab one of them, can he? :-\
Look. We spent up a lot of Karma getting TO here. We're like the Jews now. We got what we wanted, out of Egypt (or out of the NFC playoffs and into the SB) and now we've got to suffer for a while. This is how that God guy works. He's a prick.
Lighten up, Francis.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 25, 2006, 05:35:55 PM
Look. We spent up a lot of Karma getting TO here. We're like the Jews now. We got what we wanted, out of Egypt (or out of the NFC playoffs and into the SB) and now we've got to suffer for a while. This is how that God guy works. He's a prick.
The Gods smile upon thee. Gene.
It'll never happen. I'm not even going to get my hopes up. Never, ever. Ever. :-\
My sources tell me the Eagles don't give a shtein.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 25, 2006, 04:05:47 PM
he isnt going anywhere...the patriots (kill yourself if you call them the pats) want him to find out that he is overpricing himself by going out on the open market...and if by chance he finds the money he is looking for then the team has a real number they can touch and negotiate with...expect him to sign with new england by next wednesday
thats one ironic johnson there, dook...i just spit some seabrease on my new butter joint
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2006, 06:58:32 PM
It'll never happen. I'm not even going to get my hopes up. Never, ever. Ever. :-\
Sure, whatever you say Phreak. :-*
Quote from: Wingspan on August 25, 2006, 07:33:35 PM
thats one ironic johnson there, dook...i just spit some seabrease on my new butter joint
Copping an attitude, are we?
It burns when I pee. Not gonna hapen. We're better off talking about if Pinky can bounce back or Greg Lewis makes the team... :(
McCants is going to finally have his breakthrough season. Double digit catches this year!
And maybe a TD or two!!
Don't be silly. This team isn't good enough to get TDs.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 25, 2006, 07:44:17 PM
Quote from: Wingspan on August 25, 2006, 07:33:35 PM
thats one ironic johnson there, dook...i just spit some seabrease on my new butter joint
Copping an attitude, are we?
what are attitude's going for on ebay these days?
3.5 butter joints.
Did Mort say that the Eagles have contacted the Patriots?
I wonder if he's been polishing Joey B's knob to get info.
GET BRANCH!!
I know it ain't gonna happen though.
Mort says the three teams that Branch will talk to are the Broncos, ________, and the Eagles.
ESPN says that Branch is going to get into discussions with the Eagles.
He will be an Eagle by Monday. Count on it.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 25, 2006, 09:41:46 PM
Mort says the three teams that Branch will talk to are the Broncos, ________, and the Eagles.
Seahawks were the other one.
DEN is out. They have Smith and Walker and if they get Walker AND Branch I'll kill myself.
SEA is a possibility.
PHI? No shot. Welcome back, We Todd Did.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2006, 09:43:02 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 25, 2006, 09:41:46 PM
Mort says the three teams that Branch will talk to are the Broncos, ________, and the Eagles.
Seahawks were the other one.
DEN is out. They have Smith and Walker and if they get Walker AND Branch I'll kill myself.
SEA is a possibility.
PHI? No shot. Welcome back, We Todd Did.
Just my initial feeling NE is not at all serious about trading him they are just letting other teams do their negotiating for them.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 25, 2006, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2006, 09:43:02 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 25, 2006, 09:41:46 PM
Mort says the three teams that Branch will talk to are the Broncos, ________, and the Eagles.
Seahawks were the other one.
DEN is out. They have Smith and Walker and if they get Walker AND Branch I'll kill myself.
SEA is a possibility.
PHI? No shot. Welcome back, We Todd Did.
Just my initial feeling NE is not at all serious about trading him they are just letting other teams do their negotiating for them.
If you hit them with a good enough offer... they'll get serious.
I don't see the Eagles offering a first for him, and that is what I would consider serious for Deion Branch. That being said I am a huge Branch fan and have been since his first year and I would absolutely cream my pants if he were to ever come to this team. But I am 99.9% sure it won't happen.
No way is he worth a 1st rounder.
Pats LBs need help. They signed Seau for chrissakes.
Simoneau + 3rd is my first offer.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 25, 2006, 09:54:31 PM
No way is he worth a 1st rounder.
Pats LBs need help. They signed Seau for chrissakes.
Simoneau + 3rd is my first offer.
:-D, Sims is does not at all fit their system. I am not really sure he is worth a first, but definately a second. If Walker is worth a second no doubt Branch is IMO. At least a second is the only way he gets traded to any team.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 25, 2006, 09:58:49 PM
:-D, Sims is does not at all fit their system.
What the farg? :-D
Greg Lewis is a good excuse to not sign/tradefor/consider any other WRs.
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 25, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
lmao. wow. that is one for the books.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 25, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
There is no doubt in my mind this is the best post ever.
:-D :-D :-D lmmfao
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 25, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
:-D Poo Lew :-D
:-D
That farging post has me cracking up very loudly at my computer.
Poo Lew :-D
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 25, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
Quote« Last Edit: August 25, 2006, 11:16:56 PM by PhillyPhaninDC »
What I want to know is... what the hell did he EDIT?!?
P.S. I think Mort has a "cheatsheet" of what teams need what positions.
QuoteEagles Notes | Branch could fill need for receiver
Eagles Notes
Eagles fans in August are a lot like toddlers in December.
They both have long wish lists that constantly are changing.
Today's hot item is Deion Branch, the wide receiver who was granted permission by the New England Patriots yesterday to negotiate a new contract with another team for the purpose of working out a trade.
So the obvious question in these parts: Are the Eagles interested?
The answer is maybe.
A league source said yesterday that the Eagles' interest in Branch is about the same as it was in Ashley Lelie, the wide receiver who was sent from Denver to Atlanta in a three-team trade earlier this week.
The Eagles, according to the source, believe that Branch is a better player than Lelie, but they aren't sure he's worth what he's seeking from the Patriots. The source said that Branch had rejected a five-year deal worth $33 million and a three-year deal worth $18.7 million.
Branch, 27, is in the final year of a five-year deal that he signed after New England selected him in the second round of the 2002 draft. His base salary for this season is $1.05 million.
In a statement released by the Patriots, the team said Branch has until Friday to seek a deal elsewhere. The statement did not say what happens if Branch is unable to work out a contract with another team, but the league source said that the Patriots' intent may be to let the wide receiver look elsewhere because they are confident he will not get a better deal than the contracts they have offered.
Any trade like this is difficult to execute because even if Branch finds a team that satisfies his demands, the same team also must satisfy the Patriots' trade demand.
For Eagles fans, the most vivid memory of Branch's ability is not a fond one. Branch tied a Super Bowl record with 11 catches in the Patriots' win over the Eagles two seasons ago.
Despite that outstanding game, he is not considered to be among the elite receivers in the NFL. He has never had 1,000 yards receiving in a single season, although he came close last year when he caught 78 passes for 998 yards, both of which were career highs. He also had a career high last season with five touchdowns.
For his career, he has caught 213 passes for 2,744 yards and 14 touchdowns.
The Eagles' interest in Branch could depend on how they feel about Todd Pinkston. Last night, the veteran receiver made his first appearance since that Super Bowl loss to New England after sitting out the first three games because of sore Achilles tendons. Pinkston, of course, missed last season after he ruptured his right Achilles tendon in camp.
Pinkston had one catch for 4 yards. If he isn't ready, the Eagles probably will open the year with Reggie Brown, in just his second season, and rookie Hank Baskett as their top two receivers unless they obtain someone from outside the organization.
Patriots quarterback Tom Brady badly wants Branch back and has grown tired of talking about his disgruntled teammate.
"It's so labored for the players and for me talking about it," Brady told reporters in New England. "Hopefully, this situation comes to an end."
Dirk holds
Punter Dirk Johnson held instead of quarterback Koy Detmer for kicker David Akers on a 40-yard field goal in the first quarter last night.
For Jeff Garcia to be the No. 2 quarterback once the regular season starts, Johnson would have to be the holder. Detmer has been Akers' holder his entire career with the Eagles, but it seems likely that Johnson will take over that role this season.
Extra points
Defensive end Jason Short got into a shoving match with former Eagles receiver Sean Morey on an Akers kickoff that went through the end zone late in the first quarter. Earlier in the week, Short said Morey is one of his best friends in football... . Running back Reno Mahe left the game with a sprained ankle. He will be evaluated today... . The Eagles are off today and tomorrow but are likely to make their first cuts of the preseason. The roster must be reduced to 65 by Tuesday. The final 53-man roster must be set by a week from today.
Bob Brookover
It'd be nice for them to get this one done.
Branch is not a #1 WR though. Him and Reggie would make a very nice tandem however.
His career high in TDs is 5 (last year)
He did have 78 catches for 998 yards [12.8] last year
He only has 5 40+ yard catches in his career
And the Pats run a similar spread-it-around offense. Not similar as far as being a WCO but they share the ball a lot.
What he rejected is no big deal, IMO. Most of those numbers are horseshtein anyways. It's what he rejected in guaranteed money thats the issue.
Branch
Brown
Baskett
Avant
McCants
Nice.
After reading the NE papers today it appears that Branch wants Reggie Wayne money.
6 years $40M with a $13.5M signing bonus.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 26, 2006, 07:29:45 AM
QuoteEagles Notes | Branch could fill need for receiver
So the obvious question in these parts: Are the Eagles interested?
The answer is maybe.
A league source said yesterday that the Eagles' interest in Branch is about the same as it was in Ashley Lelie, the wide receiver who was sent from Denver to Atlanta in a three-team trade earlier this week.
And the FO did such a stellar job in trying to get Lelie, didn't they.
Not gonna happen.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 25, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
Wost Manneans bows its head in shame at this post.
GET THRASDH!
trade back that 6th round DP for Thrash
Hang yourself.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2006, 10:00:21 AM
After reading the NE papers today it appears that Branch wants Reggie Wayne money.
6 years $40M with a $13.5M signing bonus.
So? He could get something close to that. Why not?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 26, 2006, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2006, 10:00:21 AM
After reading the NE papers today it appears that Branch wants Reggie Wayne money.
6 years $40M with a $13.5M signing bonus.
So? He could get something close to that. Why not?
Absolutely. I'd give him something right in that area. Like I said before, it's not like the Eagles are in a position not to "overpay" for a receiver at this point.
and who else would they get if they didn't overpay? It always seems like the Eagles are waiting for this perfect receiver to fall in their lap at the perfect price. News flash: Steve Smith and Chad Johnson aren't available for 3rd round picks. The free agent crop next offseason isn't that impressive either. In fact, if I remember correctly, Branch was the best guy available in that crop. So you might as well get him now. Eventually you are going to have to overpay a little bit for a player.
I just don't get this obsession with getting every player at the perfect price. Jeffrey Lurie said it in his press conference with Darren Howard and it pissed me off then, and still does now. "If you can't get the right player at the right price...." Just shut up Lurie, please. Open your pockets.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 26, 2006, 04:50:55 PM
News flash: Steve Smith and Chad Johnson aren't available.
Fixed your post.
No, you made it worse. My point was that you can't get great receivers on the cheap. It seems like the Eagles are waiting for some pro bowler receiver to fall in their lap for a 3rd or 4th round pick. Because every single receiver that becomes available, they will never break the bank for one, because they have one or two minor flaws.
If you want to upgrade your receivers, sometimes you are going to have to offer a little more to the Branches and the Lelies of the world than they are worth.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 26, 2006, 04:33:52 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 26, 2006, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2006, 10:00:21 AM
After reading the NE papers today it appears that Branch wants Reggie Wayne money.
6 years $40M with a $13.5M signing bonus.
So? He could get something close to that. Why not?
Absolutely. I'd give him something right in that area. Like I said before, it's not like the Eagles are in a position not to "overpay" for a receiver at this point.
If the Eagles overpay for Branch after deciding not to give TO more money I admit, I'll be a little pissed because while Branch is a good, solid reciever, he's no TO. Not even close. Don't get me wrong, TO showed his true colors last year and I'm glad he's gone. But at the sime time, much of that fiasco could have been resolved early had the Eagles given him more money, which at the time, I felt he deserved.
But having said all that, I would love to see Branch in an Eagles uniform. Even though he's not on the same level as TO, Smith or Johnson, he's still a solid player and didn't have big name recievers around him to attract the focus of opposing defenses (ala Peerless Price).
He has more rings than TO though.
That's true, but TO could very conceivably triple his career high in TD's for a season. And almost get 4 to 5 hundred more total yards.
Branch is certainly of the mould the Eagles are looking for. He's at the ripe age which the Eagles covet for five or six year deals. He's right up there with some of the best recievers in the game, and Reggie Brown needs someone to alleviate the double team pressure he's going to see as the number one reciever. He also doesn't whine like a lot of other recievers. Brown and Branch are very much alike, but Branch has clearly got a lot more experience. If we had signed TO for more money and made him "happy" he would still be doing what he's doing now in Dallas. he claims to have gotten the contract he wanted, and he's already causing trouble, before the season even starts. If Branch gets money from the Eagles like TO wanted you can't compare the two situations. I'm all about the Eagles salary cap wizardry, but reall the only reason you want to manage the cap as well as they do is so that you can take a stab at bonified players who cost a little more. There is no point in being like 30 mill a year under the cap if you don't do anything with that money at some point. Now is a key point at which they should dedicate money towards a true blue reciever who would be perfect for this offense. Though the NE offense is not the same as the west coast style it actually hasn't been too dissimilar. Part of the reason his numbers aren't incredibly high is because of the spread the ball mentality there too. You see what happened when TO averaged amazing numbers? the team offense fell apart. Branch is a threat all over the field, he can run deep routes, he runs across the field, and his skill set would be perfect for the west coast, spread the ball around, mantra. I think there's a better shot of them at least offering something for him than for lelie. Whether or not the patriots are serious is another thing though. I can't really comment on that.
Here's hopin........
Quote from: shorebird on August 26, 2006, 07:47:12 PM
That's true, but TO could very conceivably triple his career high in TD's for a season. And almost get 4 to 5 hundred more total yards.
Its all about the bling.
Quote from: lackadaize on August 26, 2006, 07:58:47 PM
Branch is certainly of the mould the Eagles are looking for. He's at the ripe age which the Eagles covet for five or six year deals. He's right up there with some of the best recievers in the game, and Reggie Brown needs someone to alleviate the double team pressure he's going to see as the number one reciever. He also doesn't whine like a lot of other recievers. Brown and Branch are very much alike, but Branch has clearly got a lot more experience. If we had signed TO for more money and made him "happy" he would still be doing what he's doing now in Dallas. he claims to have gotten the contract he wanted, and he's already causing trouble, before the season even starts. If Branch gets money from the Eagles like TO wanted you can't compare the two situations. I'm all about the Eagles salary cap wizardry, but reall the only reason you want to manage the cap as well as they do is so that you can take a stab at bonified players who cost a little more. There is no point in being like 30 mill a year under the cap if you don't do anything with that money at some point. Now is a key point at which they should dedicate money towards a true blue reciever who would be perfect for this offense. Though the NE offense is not the same as the west coast style it actually hasn't been too dissimilar. Part of the reason his numbers aren't incredibly high is because of the spread the ball mentality there too. You see what happened when TO averaged amazing numbers? the team offense fell apart. Branch is a threat all over the field, he can run deep routes, he runs across the field, and his skill set would be perfect for the west coast, spread the ball around, mantra. I think there's a better shot of them at least offering something for him than for lelie. Whether or not the patriots are serious is another thing though. I can't really comment on that.
Here's hopin........
You made some good points, next time try to break it up a little.
Welcome to the board by the way.
Yeah, except that Branch and Brown are really not very much alike. Brown is not nearly as fast or shifty, but has more size (who doesn't) and plays more physical.
Branch is along the lines of a Steve Smith or Santana Moss... and there's nothing wrong with that, even though Donte Stallworth is 10 times the WR of anyone else mentioned in this post.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 26, 2006, 08:06:46 PM
Yeah, except that Branch and Brown are really not very much alike. Brown is not nearly as fast or shifty, but has more size (who doesn't) and plays more physical.
Branch is along the lines of a Steve Smith or Santana Moss... and there's nothing wrong with that.
I agree, but other than that he made some good points.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 26, 2006, 03:43:43 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 26, 2006, 10:00:21 AM
After reading the NE papers today it appears that Branch wants Reggie Wayne money.
6 years $40M with a $13.5M signing bonus.
So? He could get something close to that. Why not?
I'm fine with it. Since Banner and Roseman are so good at structuring deals I would have no worries if they paid him in the neighborhood of Wayne.
But it won't happen. Todd Pinkston is back!
If the Eagles believe in their receivers that's one thing. But if they sell to the fans right now that Pinkston is going to be a major contributor this year, then that is another thing. I don't want to hear that BS coming from the FO right now. Especially not right after guys are being acquired by other teams or being passed over by the Eagles.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 25, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
Holy shtein. This must have been right after I got home from my buddies house. We watched the game in his garage. Dude has one of those refrigerators with the tap in it. Miller Lite and Jamison all night. I was flagged by 10:30. I remember getting on the board, but have no recollection of making this post. Good times.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 26, 2006, 10:53:51 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 25, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
i hady me some baja Fresh for lunch today. Few hours later I braided some fecal rope, and the larger plop looked just like a scalled down verson of G Lew... with some munched up beans on his face. I wriggled off a wee dinkle, and as it landed in such a way that it looked like Poo Lew was stretching out to make the grab.
G Lew had a good night tonigt.
I am farging thrasdh.
Holy shtein. This must have been right after I got home from my buddies house. We watched the game in his garage. Dude has one of those refrigerators with the tap in it. Miller Lite and Jamison all night. I was flagged by 10:30. I remember getting on the board, but have no recollection of making this post. Good times.
The impressive part, as I mentioned, was that you apparently edited it at some point.
I read the original. He edited trashed at the end to what you see now.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 26, 2006, 11:10:36 PM
I read the original. He edited trashed at the end to what you see now.
So, as I suspected, he edited it to make himself appear more drunk than he really was, like a 19-year-old sorority girl.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 26, 2006, 11:11:43 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 26, 2006, 11:10:36 PM
I read the original. He edited trashed at the end to what you see now.
So, as I suspected, he edited it to make himself appear more drunk than he really was, like a 19-year-old sorority girl.
Exactly.
countdown to 6pm today
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 07:40:22 AM
countdown to 6pm today
Uh.....what is 6pm? Press conference?
Nothing is happening at 6pm today other than FF beating it feverishly to the hopes that he got someone else's hopes up.
i thought branch had until 9/1?
he does. FF is trying to raise peoples hopes, only to crush them later in his own sick twisted power trip.
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Birds might stand pat on Branch
By LES BOWEN
THE EAGLES know they're counting on some things they can't really be sure of getting from their wide receivers: Todd Pinkston being healthy and productive, Reggie Brown blossoming, Hank Baskett being not only for real but ready to contribute solidly as a rookie.
That might mean a move for a wideout before the Sept. 10 season opener - particularly if Pinkston can't provide any better reassurance in practice this week than he supplied in catching one pass for 4 yards Friday night against the Steelers.
Getting Deion Branch still looks like a longshot, though.
Sources close to the situation say the Eagles like Branch, 27, who has been given until Friday to seek a trade acceptable to the New England Patriots, but they don't consider him one of the league's top receivers. Those sources say the Eagles would be unlikely to offer Branch more than the $18.75 million over 3 years that reportedly was New England's latest bid. But New England was insisting on Branch playing the final year of his current contract, this season, at the scheduled $1.045 million figure. The new deal wouldn't kick in until next year. It's possible the Eagles would be amenable to a different structure.
Even if a contract agreement was possible, there would be the matter of what the Patriots would want in a trade, if they are serious about trading him. The Eagles, like many NFL observers, assume the Pats' main motivation in giving Branch permission to seek a trade was to convince him that no one out there wants to sign him to a contract like the 6 years at $43 million the Colts gave Reggie Wayne. But there is substantial bad blood between New England management and Branch, who is holding out of training camp. The Eagles know from their own experience that once a player is alienated, even if the market doesn't provide what he's looking for, he doesn't necessarily put things back together with his current team. At some point, Branch might just prefer to move along.
Nobody is going to give the Patriots a first-round draft pick for Branch, who is not viewed as a game-breaker, despite his 78 catches last season and his Super Bowl XXXIX MVP award. A second- or third-round pick is more likely. Even if the Birds were willing to go that far, as Donovan McNabb noted a couple of weeks ago, you don't just snap your fingers and pick up this offense. It's very late to integrate a wideout into the attack, especially a starter.
The bottom line might be, if it starts to look as if Branch really will be traded, the Eagles certainly will want to kick the tires and go for a test drive. Nothing better is likely to appear on the market. But they don't seem to be breathless with anticipation, and fans probably shouldn't be, either.
Ok, I'll be breathless with anticipation regarding Stallworth instead.
ESPN Insider, FWIW:
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Branch drawing interest
Aug. 26 Branch has been given permission from the Pats to seek a trade and, not suprisingly, the wideout is generating plenty of interest. According to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, the Vikings may inquire about Branch, especially with Koren Robinson possibly facing a yearlong suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy.
The Bears are also considering a move for the 27-year old, the Daily Southtown reports. The Bears are still looking for a quality receiver opposite Muhsin Muhammad, after missing on a chance to acquire Ashley Lelie, a player they coveted, when he was traded from Denver to Atlanta earlier in the week.
Here's the way I (truly) see the odds of this situation:
95% - Branch stays with Pats (sic) for at least this season
0% - Eagles acquire Branch
5% - Someone else acquires Branch
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 01:25:19 PM
Here's the way I (truly) see the odds of this situation:
85% - Branch stays with Pats (sic) for at least this season
1% - Eagles acquire Branch
14% - Someone else acquires Branch
Fixed.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 28, 2006, 01:28:49 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 01:25:19 PM
Here's the way I (truly) see the odds of this situation:
97% - Branch stays with Pats (sic) for at least this season
.01% - Eagles acquire Branch
2.99% - Someone else acquires Branch
Fixed.
Fixed.
See, now you're just splitting hairs.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 01:48:20 PM
See, now you're just splitting hairs.
i split your mom's hairs last night
More power to you if you want to deal with that drama.
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Eagles | Reid basically mum about Branch
Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:38:02 -0700
Bob Kent, of PhiladelphiaEagles.com, reports Philadelphia Eagles head coach Andy Reid was tight-lipped as far as the team's interest in WR Deion Branch, the disgruntled wide receiver from the New England Patriots who has been given until Friday, Sept. 1, to seek a trade. "We've looked at him and evaluated him, but I'm not going to get into anything past that," Reid said.
Shocking.
With Stallworth traded for, this thread will likely disappear soon but this gem had to be included:
QuoteThe Patriots are asking for two first-round draft picks in exchange for WR Deion Branch, according to a report on WIP in Philadelphia.
:-D
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/08/28/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html
Ugh, now I will never use SI.com as a resource considering where they get their newstips.
Someone on "that other board" asked if Stallworth will be used in a package to get Branch. :-D
Gaffney, Reno, a 7th, and Rayburn for Branch!!!
I just stabbed this thread.
sliceslicesliceslice....
Oh, my. Look at all of this blood!
So I assume this front office is going to sit on their ass and probably wont go after Branch, right?
I...I...I think it's bleeding out.
_________/\____/\/\___________________________
Dead.
Two 7th round picks and McDougle!
Closed casket funeral now.
In before the lock!
Can I borrow some of Mr. Stangles gasoline?
Time to sets it on fire.
I still think there's a chance...
:deion
Sure. He has an unlimited supply of gasoline.
You should photo chop a Josh Parry jersey onto Mr. Stangles.
I don't p-chop animated GIFs. Mad-Lad could probably do it.
Speaking of Mad...where the hell has he been?
GF has no one to share his hate of Trotter with him.
I hope the Astros going kaput didn't cause him to lose his mind.
Didn't Mad-Lad have a thing for Simoneau?
Wait, no... that was Greenway. Same difference.
Yes. Pretty much.
I think IGY's head would explode if he were a Saints fan.
They have entirely too many cracka's in the LB corps.
Shanle
Fujita
Simoneau
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 28, 2006, 07:31:59 PM
Yes. Pretty much.
I think IGY's head would explode if he were a Saints fan.
IGY hasn't been around much since the Skins got blown out.......hmmmmm.
The skins finally saw the light and signed IGY to head up their player personnel department.
IGY > Cerrato
I'm dead serious. I'd pick IGY to run my squad instead of Vinny.
The name of this thread should be changed to "Why Jimmy Smith Won't Be An Eagle."
At Lehigh they had a kelly green #81 Jimmy Smith butta joint.
For real. Right next to the Bruce Walker full one-sie jersey and the John Teltschink one.
Rich Kotite should be lowered slowly into a vat of hydrochloric acid for allowing Jimmy Smith to get away from the Eagles.
MDS would've had a crack smokin pal too. He's obviously cookin up some lately and Jimmy gets the good shtein. Friends 4ever!
"Uhhh, hey yo. My, uhhhh, playchaht got wet. I can't see, uhhhh, if we, uhhh, should go for one or two".
This thread is doomed, here's a clown
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Uncle Buck: "you been drinkin, pal?"
Clown: Who're you? Mother Cabrini? Never touch the stuff?
Buck: Get in your mouse and leave!
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 28, 2006, 08:12:46 PM
Uncle Buck: "you been drinkin, pal?"
Clown: Who're you? Mother Cabrini? Never touch the stuff?
Buck: Get in your mouse and leave!
Just watched that movie the other day on HBO it is an all-time classic.
Indeed.
'You thnk its the hat? A lot of people hate the hat. It makes them angry". :-D
"Your dog is a ball sniffer."
Farg Deion.
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