45 minutes til kickoff. Looking forward to see how we play against the tougher of defenses this preseason, and how our defense plays against the Ravens new and improved offense.
Again, I can't wait.
Do they broadcast preseason games anywhere on the intarweb?
I can't wait either.
I have about 20 beers with my name on them waiting for me at the bar.
Later, Hoydas.
Eagles: 13
Ravens: 10
Quote from: rjs246 on August 17, 2006, 07:23:22 PM
Do they broadcast preseason games anywhere on the intarweb?
The best thing you can do if you want to watch it on the 'net is to go to NFL and get their Field Pass trial. Remember to cancel it before they bill you though. Otherwise, you can go to ESPN and watch the GameCast thing. Those or hang out here with Bunkley78.
**Edit: Some people are saying on here that 94.1 WYSP is streaming the games from their website. Check that out too.
http://www.wysp.com/home.php
I won't be here until after the game, so that's one less option. I'm sure other people will post updates here.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 17, 2006, 07:29:29 PM
I won't be here until after the game, so that's one less option. I'm sure other people will post updates here.
Excellent reason to fire up a game thread then, huh?
AttentionWhore78 says, "Look, I started this thread! I hope it gets lots and lots of posts! I'm so glad I posted it an hour before kickoff, so I could beat the rush! r0xX0rz!!1!."
I guess you've never heard of post-game discussions then, huh?
am i to assume correctly in that the ETN/Channel six is wussing out on a HD broadcast again this week?
it's obvious that banner and lurie lowballed the camera guys
Anyway, I hope Jeremy Bloom can impress tonight. I want a breakaway threat at the return game.
and they probably won't have HD again. It doesn't get any more low budget than the ETN. Last week the screen was all messed up on the pre-game discussions.
You suck at naming threads.
Fixed, your majesty. :)
That's Sir Majesty to you. And it's still wrong. You lose ten ConcretePoints, which I just made up.
Can someone else please have my post count? Pretty please.
No.
sign up again with a new name..we'll believe you
I think it'd be more entertaining to unload my postcount onto someone else. And let's face it, I'm far too lazy to sign up for a new user name.
son of a mother humper...it worked
Blaine doesnt have squat on you chief
Reed tiptoes up to his blockers on the kickoff and gets leveled.
Eagles are supposed to be going no huddle. McNabb goes deep to McCants down the left side, flag on Rolle for PI.
Looks like the WYSP feed got shut down - anyone still getting it?
McNabb scrambles for 8, gets pulled down by the collar on the right sideline.
Mahe runs left for 7, Parry being praised for his blocking by Jaws.
McNabb overthrows Baskett. Still no huddle, and I'm gonna stop trying to keep up now.
Ha!
I'm free!
Akers with a 44 yard FG after McNabb gets sacked.
That play just now by Dawk (swatting the pass down intended for Heap) is fuel for the fire in the Dawk vs. ST arguement. I am of the opinion that Taylor wouldn't have knocked it down, because he would have sold out for the hit. Good play by Dawk. :yay
Reggie Brown picks up 5 yards on a WR screen. Buck is in, should be carted out soon.
Baskett can't beat his coverage on the long pass, but illegal contact on the defense. First down.
Buck picks up the blitz, McNabb drills LJ with a pass. He's down at midfield.
HOLY C BUCK
Buck with a 48 yd gain! Down to the 1.
BUCKHALTER!!
Buckhalter takes a shovel pass 48 yards. And I was just about to say he can't run anymore.
Reno is the goal line back apparently.
I'd be a liar if I said it wasn't good to see Buckhalter in there again. The style difference is nice to have. Shame he won't make it through the preseason.... :-\
TOUCHDOWN!! Mahe.
McNabb Favres a pass to Reno.
Excellent whiff by Parry on Suggs on that touch down pass. Assbag. Tapeh would have tombstoned Suggs on that play.
Buck took a good shoulder on the knee when he got tackled on that 48 yard pass, but he jumped back up.
Buck!! Sorry but get Mahe out of there :-D
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WYSP just stopped WTF
With the exception of that shovel pass, Reno is outplaying Buck right now. He's running better behind this line.
Buck is showing really good burst. It'd be a miracle, but if he was 100%, it would be a godsend.
Andy shoulda let Buck run that in...
I'd rather see Buck on the 1 yd. line, but hey I would rather just hear the game, but it seems wysp likes to drop it's signal right at the snap.
What, to make sure he gets hurt?
what happened?
I have a mancrush on Dawk. wub.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 08:37:35 PM
What, to make sure he gets hurt?
Hey at least he would get hurt on a touchdown, kind of like the movie "the replacements"
Dawk is all over the place. :yay
The Ravens O line is doing a good job of protecting McNair without Ogden playing.
you can still tell hes favoring that knee when he runs. a couple solid hits on that thing, hes gonna have swelling....sucks
Id love to have him there though
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 08:39:50 PM
The Ravens O line is doing a good job of protecting McNair without Ogden playing.
The line isn't even sniffing McNair. Looks like Patterson is getting a Simon "tire" around the waist :P
The d-line is being outplayed completely by the Ravens o-line.
Quote from: reese125 on August 17, 2006, 08:41:38 PM
you can still tell hes favoring that knee when he runs. a couple solid hits on that thing, hes gonna have swelling....sucks
Id love to have him there though
He was moving well. Especially in the open field. He blew right by a couple Ravens. Didn't see him favoring much.
On another note, the Ravens are acting like the Raiders with all these penalties.
Anyone see Jailbird Jamal take McCoy for a ride down the sideline?
Mason and McNair and little by little carving up the defense. McNair finally gets hit by Darren Howard, but he still completed the pass.
The d-line is being outplayed completely by the Ravens o-line.
the sad part is the ravens OL is the weak spot on their team...so much for howard giving kearse a second life...jevon looks like he has nothing left...even worse than the last couple eyars in terms of any burst on the corner
the ravens are basically doing whatever they want on offense until they get a penalty or dawk makes a play....hes the only one that has showed up....ravens are a real good team tho....this aint the raiders or browns
please please please andy cut matt mccoy tomorrow...he is horrendous
Spads is hinting that Bunkley might be coming in soon.
Are they getting manhandled as bad as it sounds?
Stover hits a 30 yard FG. 10-3 now.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 17, 2006, 08:50:24 PM
Are they getting manhandled as bad as it sounds?
There's almost no pressure at all. Ok, there's none
Are they getting manhandled as bad as it sounds?
the team isnt as much as the front seven
the amount of time mcnair is getting is sickening...the typical vanilla preseason game plan is keeping everything short and underneath...
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 17, 2006, 08:50:24 PM
Are they getting manhandled as bad as it sounds?
The front four aren't flying around like we got used to the last couple games. It isn't that they D-Line is playing extremely poor, just that the Ravens O-Line is playing well, and the Eagles D-Line isn't getting much pressure. There doesn't seem to be too much of a push from Patterson and/or Rayburn. Put Bunkley up there with MIkey P!
Reed takes the kickoff from the goal line to the 21.
reed looks really hesitant this week on the returns
im looking forward to bloom on some punts later on....has anyone confirmed thart he is activated tonight...
Ugh, Fraley's in a guard
Buck gets stopped at the line again. Fraley is playing guard.
LJ gets another laser in the chest as McNabb gets his feet wrapped up and taken down.
lj might get 100 catches this year....the wr's CANNOT get open
Buck wiffs on a cut block, McNabb misses Reno down the sideline.
Reno on a go route? Strange.
McNabb scrambled for 8 seconds, broke some ankles, found nobody and threw it away. Flag on the play.
McNabb is getting his scrambling practice down
Andrews downfield. Declined. 4th down.
McNabb looks great flying around. He should have just been sacked three times.
i love the way mcnabb is moving....so nice to see after last year...its a travesty what andy has surrounded him with tho
It'll be a different story when Westbrook or even Moats is out there to help him out.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 17, 2006, 08:57:49 PM
Reno on a go route? Strange.
You know we are going to see that again with Westy streaking down the sideline...
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 17, 2006, 08:57:49 PM
Reno on a go route? Strange.
Probably a play call that would normally have Westy (maybe Moats) spliting out wide, Mahe doesn't have the wheels, Westy probably would have been under that ball.
Fraley at Guard? Why? Guard is pretty deep.
Probably stupid to ask, but why isn't Moats in/playing? I saw him dressed on the sidelines earlier...?
McNair takes a shot from Howard and Kearse after holding on too long. Pass incomplete.
It'll be a different story when Westbrook or even Moats is out there to help him out.
keep believing that...westbrook is a nice player but if the defense focuses their gameplan on shutting him down (which every one will do) they can...hes not marshall faulk
Musa Smith just blew by the entire defense on a screen pass. Trent Cole saves the touchdown. Barber and Rayburn are limping around.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 08:56:50 PM
lj might get 100 catches this year....the wr's CANNOT get open
Not to say that it isn't a concern but it is not as bad as it would be if they weren't playing such a great secondary. Remember even when they had TO against this team two years ago on Halloween they didn't get open much other than TO's td. Maybe now they will go get Lelie! :D
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:02:58 PM
It'll be a different story when Westbrook or even Moats is out there to help him out.
keep believing that...westbrook is a nice player but if the defense focuses their gameplan on shutting him down (which every one will do) they can...hes not marshall faulk
They can focus on him, but with the way he runs behind this line he's going to get yards. Even Reno picked up big chunks tonight, which Buck has not done.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:03:10 PM
Musa Smith just blew by the entire defense on a screen pass. Trent Cole saves the touchdown. Barber and Rayburn are limping around.
Howard owned the tackle that is filling in for Ogden on that play, set him up beautifully. If Dhani could cover, McNair would have been eating turf on that play. Looks like the D-Line is finally starting to get some push.
3rd and 2 after a McNair scramble, timeout Ravens.
i wasnt watching howard but he probably owned him cause it was a screen pass and the T wasnt blocking
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:02:58 PM
It'll be a different story when Westbrook or even Moats is out there to help him out.
keep believing that...westbrook is a nice player but if the defense focuses their gameplan on shutting him down (which every one will do) they can...hes not marshall faulk
Gotta remember that Moats will be in the backfield quite a bit with Westy as well.
McNair trips over his lineman's feet. Rayburn gets credit for a sack.
IGY, your underestimating of Westbrook/Moats is funny.
Anyway, how many short slant plays do the Ravens have to run before the Eagles finally get what they're trying to do? The D-line might not be getting a lot of pressure, but they really arean't getting a chance too...all these 3 step and throw patterns, and everyone's wide open on them.
Cover the underneath shtein, please.
Way too much zone defense tonight.
Time of posession is looking like the Eagles from just a few years ago. The Ravens are taking their sweet time, and the defense can't get them off the field.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:06:31 PM
i wasnt watching howard but he probably owned him cause it was a screen pass and the T wasnt blocking
Do you ever stop bitching?
theres the phreak
Fumble. Eagles ball. Kearse with the hit on McNair.
Kearse knocks the ball out of McNair's hands.. turnover!
Reid wanted to get a two minute drill going, I guess we'll see more no huddle.
Do you ever stop bitching?
do you know football...lineman release on screens...knowledge up son
No, I'm completely clueless on football, asshat. I just quoted the first post I saw. Do I really need to go back and quote your other bitchings?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:06:31 PM
i wasnt watching howard but he probably owned him cause it was a screen pass and the T wasnt blocking
It wasn't a designed screen. McNair dumped it off because Patterson and Howard were coming hard. A moment after McNair released the ball he got decked. It wasn't a sack only because McNair is a solid veteran QB, Boller would have taken a sack.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:11:08 PM
Do you ever stop bitching?
do you know football...lineman release on screens...knowledge up son
Are you watching this game? McNair dropped back to throw the ball, the lineman were in pass protection. Howard stood Terry straight up, and tossed him aside. McNair dumped it off.
The announcers are talking about the muscles on Kearse's toes.
how is mcnabb looking mentally?
Review underway on the fumble.
No, I'm completely clueless on football, asshat. I just quoted the first post I saw. Do I really need to go back and quote your other bitchings?
i call em as i see him...you just dont like what im sayin...
two choices...read and learn or dont read
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2006, 09:13:32 PM
how is mcnabb looking mentally?
He's clearly thinking about TO. Play stands. Ravens are out of timeouts now.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:13:25 PM
The announcers are talking about the muscles on Kearse's toes.
Too bad I'm missing that gripping analysis.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2006, 09:13:32 PM
how is mcnabb looking mentally?
I saw him doing Sudoku on the sidelines. I'm feeling he's past TO.
Nobody open at all, McNabb waits all day, throws it away.
how is mcnabb looking mentally?
tough to say in the preseason with no pressure whatsoever...physically tho he looks fantastic
It wasn't a designed screen. McNair dumped it off because Patterson and Howard were coming hard
ah
Reno gives it right back.
MAHE! :boo
Sure sounds like McNabb has been throwing the ball away a lot tonight.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:15:15 PM
Nobody open at all, McNabb waits all day, throws it away.
I'm seeing the "No eggs in the Baskett" headlines.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:14:15 PM
No, I'm completely clueless on football, asshat. I just quoted the first post I saw. Do I really need to go back and quote your other bitchings?
i call em as i see him...you just dont like what im sayin...
two choices...read and learn or dont read
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:06:31 PM
i wasnt watching howard but he probably owned him cause it was a screen pass and the T wasnt blocking
Uh, you weren't watching.... ;)
McNair hits Heap over the middle, Dawkins in coverage.
baskett as ive been saying since i saw him at camp cant get open in the nfl...reggie however is a little disconcerting...by no means is he a number 1 guy...but damn get open every once in a while...its not like mcnabb hasnt had time...the o line has played well
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 17, 2006, 09:17:18 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:14:15 PM
No, I'm completely clueless on football, asshat. I just quoted the first post I saw. Do I really need to go back and quote your other bitchings?
i call em as i see him...you just dont like what im sayin...
two choices...read and learn or dont read
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:06:31 PM
i wasnt watching howard but he probably owned him cause it was a screen pass and the T wasnt blocking
Uh, you weren't watching.... ;)
:-D
Killa Cole drops McNair. He's getting the ball off, but he's getting hit on almost every other pass play.
What?! Reggie Brown isn't playing like Chad Johnson?! Inconceiveable!
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:14:15 PM
No, I'm completely clueless on football, asshat. I just quoted the first post I saw. Do I really need to go back and quote your other bitchings?
i call em as i see him...you just dont like what im sayin...
That's cause you don't make any sense and you bitch about stupid shtein making stupid arguments for your bitching. Just stop complainging for a little bit. You act like you're five sometimes.
Clock ran out on em. :yay
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 17, 2006, 09:17:18 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:14:15 PM
No, I'm completely clueless on football, asshat. I just quoted the first post I saw. Do I really need to go back and quote your other bitchings?
i call em as i see him...you just dont like what im sayin...
two choices...read and learn or dont read
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:06:31 PM
i wasnt watching howard but he probably owned him cause it was a screen pass and the T wasnt blocking
Uh, you weren't watching.... ;)
Owned.
Dawkins stops this drive, no huddle FG doesn't get off before the clock runs out.
So the first half consisted of Brian Dawkins and the DE's vs. The Ravens offense. Also, Donovan McNabb vs. the Ravens defense.
And somehow, we're winning.
Quote from: Munson on August 17, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
So the first half consisted of Brian Dawkins and the DE's vs. The Ravens offense. Also, Donovan McNabb vs. the Ravens defense.
And somehow, we're winning.
Don't forget Buck and his 1 ypc average and 48 yard pass reception.
People who have been saying that we shouldn't be happy with the team's positives in the preseason before today, will now use tonight's performance as proof positive that we should expect a subpar year.
god billick is a complete ass....he blamed the whole half on the refs...said hes "never seen a more diciplined team than the eagles to go thru a whole half of preseason with no penalties"...and that on the last fg attempt the refs didnt get the ball down in time "it must be preseason for them too"
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:21:39 PM
Quote from: Munson on August 17, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
So the first half consisted of Brian Dawkins and the DE's vs. The Ravens offense. Also, Donovan McNabb vs. the Ravens defense.
And somehow, we're winning.
Don't forget Buck and his 1 ypc average and 48 yard pass reception.
You forgot lots of LJ Smith
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:21:39 PM
Don't forget Buck and his 1 ypc average and 48 yard pass reception.
His longest gain was 2 yards... wow, that just terrible. Is he at least running with authority? Hitting the holes hard and with power?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:22:42 PM
god billick is a complete ass....he blamed the whole half on the refs...said hes "never seen a more diciplined team than the eagles to go thru a whole half of preseason with no penalties"...and that on the last fg attempt the refs didnt get the ball down in time "it must be preseason for them too"
I guess down your way, you're not getting to witness Jaws Eagle-fellating skills.
The Ravens have arguably the best secondary in the league. Baskett I don't care so much about. Brown is the big concern for me, I haven't seen him with any room tonight. Has a WR even caught a ball??
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:22:42 PM
god billick is a complete ass....he blamed the whole half on the refs...said hes "never seen a more diciplined team than the eagles to go thru a whole half of preseason with no penalties"...and that on the last fg attempt the refs didnt get the ball down in time "it must be preseason for them too"
IGs, you are watching the Ravens' coverage too? That Billick interview had me laughing my ass off. "I gotta take my hat of to the Eagles, a whole half with so few penalties, they're doing a better job than I am...." Of course they're doing a better job. You're a gimp. :-D
nope...its actually nice here...the ravens preseason team is moose johnston and stockton
Brown has 1 catch for 5 yards. Yay Reggie!
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 17, 2006, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:21:39 PM
Don't forget Buck and his 1 ypc average and 48 yard pass reception.
His longest gain was 2 yards... wow, that just terrible. Is he at least running with authority? Hitting the holes hard and with power?
I'll have to look at the tape later, but it looks like the holes haven't been there for Buck. It's as much the blocking, as it is his skills
Quote from: TexasEagle on August 17, 2006, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:21:39 PM
Don't forget Buck and his 1 ypc average and 48 yard pass reception.
His longest gain was 2 yards... wow, that just terrible. Is he at least running with authority? Hitting the holes hard and with power?
That's the thing. He hasn't really had too many holes to exploit.
DTs getting handled, WRs not getting open, Mahe alive, JR Reid done, Donovan = fixed
Oh yeah, LJ Smith is playing a little bit too. I think he'll approach, if not surpass 80 catches this year.
Buckhalter is hitting the holes...but there really havn't been holes for him to hit, from my observations...The O-Line isn't doing as good a job run blocking, at least not for a back like a Buckhalter (a power back with no cut backs...or knees). Mahe did pretty good hitting the cut back lanes.
IGY, pay attention here. That's what I believe Beermonkey was referring to. If RENO FRIGGIN MAHE is hitting the cut back lanes well, what do you think guys like Westbrook and Moats would do to those cut back lanes?
To quote you earlier...do you know anything about football?
The Ravens have arguably the best secondary in the league
so do the eagles but somehow derrick mason had seven catches....its the difference btwn a veteran #1 wr and a second year #2 (maybe)
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:26:29 PM
The Ravens have arguably the best secondary in the league
so do the eagles but somehow derrick mason had seven catches....its the difference btwn a veteran #1 wr and a second year #2 (maybe)
3 step drops + short slant patterns = completions
That's all McNair has been doing... and he's still getting hit.
I suspect they're playing a lot of zone and soft coverage. The Ravens are eating up the slack they're getting.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2006, 09:28:23 PM
3 step drops + short slant patterns + 29 yard cushions= completions
fixed
It was barely 20 yards of cushion.
Yeah the defense is frustrating me with all the zone and shtein. Those 3 step drop-pass underneath throws are just...frustrating.
But it is only preseason, so hopefully all this zone is just JJ being soft.
mr. technical over here
Buckhalter is hitting the holes...but there really havn't been holes for him to hit, from my observations...The O-Line isn't doing as good a job run blocking, at least not for a back like a Buckhalter (a power back with no cut backs...or knees). Mahe did pretty good hitting the cut back lanes.
IGY, pay attention here. That's what I believe Beermonkey was referring to. If RENO FRIGGIN MAHE is hitting the cut back lanes well, what do you think guys like Westbrook and Moats would do to those cut back lanes?
To quote you earlier...do you know anything about football?
lolol...mahe one more carry than he had fumbles...but he was doing a good job hitting the cut back lanes...he had ONE nice run...and that equates to all kinds of cut back lanes all year and thus the eagles offense will be great
what do you think guys like Westbrook and Moats would do to those cut back lanes?
i dont even know who moats is yet...as for westbrook i think he will do better than mahe in any lanes.....a lot better....still not sure what your point is...that westbrook>mahe?
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 17, 2006, 09:28:48 PM
I suspect they're playing a lot of zone and soft coverage. The Ravens are eating up the slack they're getting.
Yup, way too much zone tonight. JJ uses a soft zone a lot in preseason but it looks like there's a case of amnesia here tonight.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 17, 2006, 09:31:22 PM
Yup, way too much zone tonight. JJ uses a soft zone a lot in preseason but it looks like there's a case of amnesia here tonight.
that still doesn't explain the DTs getting handled. the Ravens are running up the middle on the with ease
I blame Trotter for the run defense.
im surprised, or wait, am i not? i can't remember these things
admittedly the eagles defense is playing real soft and running minimal regular season packages...but my point is the eagle wr's had one catch that half derrick mason had seven...come up with as many reason as it takes to make you feel better about that but the fact is the eagles have minimal talent at that position
reggie brown
hank baskett
jabar gaffney/greg lewis
are their top theree wr's
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?!?!?!
i know this is beating a dead horse but i cant help it....it makes me so farging mad
Quote from: Lil' Miss SunMo on August 17, 2006, 09:33:06 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 17, 2006, 09:31:22 PM
Yup, way too much zone tonight. JJ uses a soft zone a lot in preseason but it looks like there's a case of amnesia here tonight.
that still doesn't explain the DTs getting handled. the Ravens are running up the middle on the with ease
Sam Rayburn is starting, thats part of the reason. Patterson's looked so so. I wouldn't mind seeing Bunkley get some reps with the first team D.
And he's in now.
Bunkley's in. Coincidentally, the first run by the Ravens was for 1 yard up the middle.
Bunkley drove his lineman right into Boller, but after he got the pass off.
bunkley is so ill
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:34:46 PM
admittedly the eagles defense is playing real soft and running minimal regular season packages...but my point is the eagle wr's had one catch that half derrick mason had seven...come up with as many reason as it takes to make you feel better about that but the fact is the eagles have minimal talent at that position
I don't think you'll see any arguments there. Just that it may not be as bad as tonight's performance may indicate.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:35:38 PM
Bunkley drove his lineman right into Boller, but after he got the pass off.
Yeah, that was sweet.
Bunkley bull rushed the lineman and almost disrupted the QB. Quite the zesty camera work tonight. I feel like I'm watching a bootleg tape of the game.
Juqua with the sack. Bunkley pushes the center into Boller's face again.
Second team D line is looking much better against the second team O line.
Boller completes a pass to himself for 5 yards.
Bloom watches the ball roll dead on the punt.
did you see bunkley on that play as well...he dead lifted the center three yards backwards and then blocking sled pushed him another six....friggin animal
Bloom lets the punt bounce, down at the 23. Here comes Neckbeard!
Why is neckbeard coming in?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 17, 2006, 09:36:20 PM
Bunkley bull rushed the lineman and almost disrupted the QB. Quite the zesty camera work tonight. I feel like I'm watching a bootleg tape of the game.
I feel like I'm watching a bootleg version of the Eagles
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:37:48 PM
did you see bunkley on that play as well...he dead lifted the center three yards backwards and then blocking sled pushed him another six....friggin animal
Just wait he gets his ass in shape.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:37:48 PM
did you see bunkley on that play as well...he dead lifted the center three yards backwards and then blocking sled pushed him another six....friggin animal
Man, if it wasn't for that holdout...
garcias not playing tonight
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 17, 2006, 09:38:11 PM
Why is neckbeard coming in?
I guess they've seen enough Garcia.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:38:31 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:37:48 PM
did you see bunkley on that play as well...he dead lifted the center three yards backwards and then blocking sled pushed him another six....friggin animal
Man, if it wasn't for that holdout...
:-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:31:07 PM
Buckhalter is hitting the holes...but there really havn't been holes for him to hit, from my observations...The O-Line isn't doing as good a job run blocking, at least not for a back like a Buckhalter (a power back with no cut backs...or knees). Mahe did pretty good hitting the cut back lanes.
IGY, pay attention here. That's what I believe Beermonkey was referring to. If RENO FRIGGIN MAHE is hitting the cut back lanes well, what do you think guys like Westbrook and Moats would do to those cut back lanes?
To quote you earlier...do you know anything about football?
lolol...mahe one more carry than he had fumbles...but he was doing a good job hitting the cut back lanes...he had ONE nice run...and that equates to all kinds of cut back lanes all year and thus the eagles offense will be great
what do you think guys like Westbrook and Moats would do to those cut back lanes?
i dont even know who moats is yet...as for westbrook i think he will do better than mahe in any lanes.....a lot better....still not sure what your point is...that westbrook>mahe?
Yes, I said the offense would be great all year and cut back lanes would be there all year. That's what I said. Nice try.
I said that the offensive line was creating cut back lanes for Mahe to get. Cut back lanes are pretty common on NFL plays and some RB's hit them very well. Buckhalter, being the type of back he is without any knees, is not going to hit those cutback lanes, thus he hasn't doen very well running the ball tonight.
My comments directed at you were in response to you, earlier in the thread, downplaying the importance of having Westbrook and Moats in the offense, on the field. If Mahe can hit the cutback lanes and get some decent yardage out of it, it's good news. THat means the o-line is opening up some nice holes and lanes for a RB like Westbrook to hit. So, instead of underestimating Westbrook, you should be smart enough to realize that having him in there instead of RENO FRIGGIN MAHE will be a HUGE help to the offense.
Yes, it WILL make that big of a differnce.
Why do so many lack the ability to use logic when they think?
Just wait he gets his ass in shape
2007 says hi
this season was wasted by him and his idiot agent
Moats fumbles on his 1st farging carry.
Moats coughs it up. Ravens have the ball.
Freakin Moats, looks quick as hell then fumbles the damn ball. Go take a seat on the bench.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 09:39:38 PM
Just wait he gets his ass in shape
2007 says hi
this season was wasted by him and his idiot agent
yep... :-D
well that wasn't a positive offensive start
Musa Smith with the TD.
Aha, that seems to be the only thing Buckhalter has done better then the other RB's tonight.
I did like seeing that though, on his long run, everytime a defender got within 5 yards near him he made sure to secure the ball close to his chest.
Come on Moats, high and tight, high and tight. You too Reno. And Bruce....
Musa shows Moats how it's done, takes his carry in for the touchdown.
musa smith is their THIRD (for now) rb....scary
He's been getting 2nd back carries.
preseason = very scary
Bloom takes the kickoff to the 30.
i can hear the linc now
blooooooooooooooooooooom
Scramblin' Neckbeard hits Moats for a small pickup.
Koy takes a helmet on the chin, pass incomplete, holding on the defense, first down.
We need to sign "yellow flag" to an extension
Koy is absolutely horrible. Why don't we just concede the 2nd half.
Koy hits Moats with the ball, gets call for grounding.
Bye Koy.
Are we sure Garcia's not playing tonight? :-\
That ball was so underthrown, it could have been a handoff.
Koy gets picked off, underthrown and Greggie doesn't fight the corner in front of him.
Koy Detmer has no business stepping on the field for a down at quarterback. In fact, he's an absolute candidate for dying on the field.
Honey Buns is getting owned on the regular. Against a backup DT stacked on top of him. What a joke.
and Timmy makes the team.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:51:48 PM
Koy gets picked off, underthrown and Greggie doesn't fight the corner in front of him.
I actually think Greg did what he could on that one. It was a jump ball that the CB had the inside position on since it was so underthrown.
yeah, Greggie is awful, but there was nothing he could do with that one
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 17, 2006, 09:53:19 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 09:51:48 PM
Koy gets picked off, underthrown and Greggie doesn't fight the corner in front of him.
I actually think Greg did what he could on that one. It was a jump ball that the CB had the inside position on since it was so underthrown.
He didn't get called for offensive PI, he didn't do all he could.
Juqua with another sack. Just beat Killa to the QB.
J. Thomas has a better shot of making this team than McDougle does.
McCoy is still playing.
Eagles backup offense=scary. I just don't understand why they never address there lack of depth on that side of the ball.
supposedly when you manage your cap like the eagles...dont overpay for starters and draft like geniuses it gives you great depth
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 17, 2006, 09:57:33 PM
Eagles backup offense=scary. I just don't understand why they never address there lack of depth on that side of the ball.
You mean like signing Jeff Garcia?
Correll feels blessed
Spadaro just tapped Buck on the shoulder pads, and his knees gave out.
and Dave turned 'Buckhalter back on the field' into one word, well played sir
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 17, 2006, 09:57:33 PM
Eagles backup offense=scary. I just don't understand why they never address there lack of depth on that side of the ball.
why don't we worry about quality starters before we worry about depth
so is this the pre season game that everyone hangs on to say we suck?
do we suck?
oh preseason rescue me!
bye bye jerome
Juqua Thomas with his 3rd sack.
3rd sack for Juqua
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 17, 2006, 09:58:52 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 17, 2006, 09:57:33 PM
Eagles backup offense=scary. I just don't understand why they never address there lack of depth on that side of the ball.
You mean like signing Jeff Garcia?
Well, that was ok, but they just don't seem to ever want to bring anybody else in other than role players.
With Scott Young being hurt...Hank Fraley playing guard and center now...and J. Thomas playing like this...It looks like we'll be going with 9 O-Line men and 10 D-Lineman...
Yes, McDougal will make the team guys.
They need to get some of those premiere backups.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 17, 2006, 10:00:26 PM
so is this the pre season game that everyone hangs on to say we suck?
do we suck?
oh preseason rescue me!
Yes, this will be the game we cuddle up with at night that supports any negative opinions.
Actually, they gave Juqua 1/2 a sack... splitting it with Bunkley. :yay
blooooooooooooooom!!!
Bunkley is being credited with half of that last sack.
Koy's pass is batted back in his face.
God forbid we actually look at what's happening on the field and comment on it. ALL IS WELL!
So, is Bloom running N-S, or is he dancing around?
I'm telling you...10 D-Linemen, 9 O-line...
Bloom is showing some good speed.
In other ST news...is it me or is the blocking on KO Return horrible?
what were mcnabbs #s overall?
Moats gets hung up on Fraley's hip, stoopped for a one yard gain.
Quote from: Munson on August 17, 2006, 10:01:58 PM
With Scott Young being hurt...Hank Fraley playing guard and center now...and J. Thomas playing like this...It looks like we'll be going with 9 O-Line men and 10 D-Lineman...
Yes, McDougal will make the team guys.
Yeah I kinda of agree the Eagles have better sucess at plugging in OL than they have with DL.
Now that shtein you can blame on Greg Lewis.
Ware gets called for the horse collar.
Alas, poor Greggie. We knew him well. Matt Ware gets called for a horsecollar tackle.
What a flagy call on Ware.
that's bullshtein, he grabbed the shoulder pad first
Before I lifted my head from reading 3 posts, the offensive series was over. :P
Especially since we seem to suffer more injuries to the D-line over the course of the year...
DE-Kearse, Howard, Cole, Thomas, McDougal
DT-Walker, Patterson, Rayburn, Bunkley, Ramsey
And Bloom is running N-S, and showing pretty good speed. But like I said...it seems like the KO Return blocking/wedge is just...terrible.
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 17, 2006, 10:06:05 PM
Before I lifted my head from reading 3 posts, the offensive series was over. :P
That's EFFICIENCY! :yay
Pocket collapses around Boller again, Bunkley with another sack/tackle for one yard.
Simoneau takes down Boller. That means Boller is officially out of the league.
Quote from: Munson on August 17, 2006, 10:06:36 PM
But like I said...it seems like the KO Return blocking/wedge is just...terrible.
That doesn't shock me - most of the guys out there on special teams during the preseason have zero clue...
Why is Dexter Wynn on the team...again?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on August 17, 2006, 10:07:11 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 17, 2006, 10:06:05 PM
Before I lifted my head from reading 3 posts, the offensive series was over. :P
That's EFFICIENCY! :yay
I move my lips when I read, so maybe it's not that bad
Dexter Wynn trying out a new PR strategy...going backwards. so far, it doesn't seem to be paying dividends
Eagles 2nd O-Line not doing well blocking for Moats. Jean-Gilles is going to need some work, and going to need to lose some weight.
Why would they have Wynn in there? Let Bloom show what he's got.
Detmer plays at Favrean passing, Moats catches the awful, stupid pass, and loses yards.
Quote from: Munson on August 17, 2006, 10:10:22 PM
Jean-Gilles is going to need some work, and going to need to lose some weight.
let's get a list of his best friends
Diggler knocks the returner out of bounds on the repunt.
Quote from: Lil' Miss SunMo on August 17, 2006, 10:11:03 PM
Quote from: Munson on August 17, 2006, 10:10:22 PM
Jean-Gilles is going to need some work, and going to need to lose some weight.
let's get a list of his best friends
Very nice. A+
The Kick-Off Return team was doing a zesty job blocking for JR Reed too though...They defiantely need to work on that. I guess having Reno Mahe as your lead blockeer isn't going to help.
Yeah, he's a good special teamer...but no one's going to be fearing taking on Reno Mahe. They need someone a little bit bigger or stronger to lead block on a KO Return.
Bloom's got a hamstring injury, he's done for the night.
Bloom is out with a hammy again. Say hello to the IR, Jeremy.
Bloom hurts the Hammy again. IR Him, let him come back next year with a year of football training under his belt and see what he can do.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 10:14:48 PM
Bloom's got a hamstring injury, he's done for the year.
fixed
Timmy Chang will be in just as soon as the Ravens get done humiliating the defense.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 10:16:09 PM
Timmy Chang will be in just as soon as the Ravens get done humiliating the defense.
Done
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 10:16:09 PM
Timmy Chang will be in just as soon as the Ravens get done humiliating the defense.
Done.
God. Detmer has to be the worst QB I have ever seen. Including college and high school. What a laughing stock. End the misery already. There is no way that anyway on the coaching staff thinks he could run the offense, even half assed.
Hank Fraley looks pathetic.
Second team WRs are invisble as well.
Why is Matt Ware still on this team?
Moats hasn't had any lanes, every time he gets the ball there are Ravens in his face.
Bunkley is a beast.
Boller is destroying the backup secondary. Christ.
That was quick.
Ha.
Nobody should have a hundred yard receiving game in the preseason, but here we are.
Go Chimmie Chang
It's Chimmie Chong.
looking forward to the Chang to Lelie combination come the last pre-season game.
It sucks about Bloom....he was showing good speed on the return...>I really hope Reid IR's him and keeps him around to show what he's got next year....
I predict next year Bloom will make the roster. :yay
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 10:19:45 PM
It's Chimmie Chong.
When I have a couple beers, it's Chimmie Chang
Perry back to return.
Out to the 25. He gets up this time.
Perry takes the kickoff to the 25.
They had better do something in regards to WR help. There has been one catch all night by a WR.
Hopefully McDougle heals quick or Fraley will have to carry him onto the plane.
that didnt look like a guy waiting for inside help. looked like corner not anticipating the speed of the reciever and got burnt.... then needed help
that was piss poor coverage--wheew
where the farg is Gaffney?
Avant on the reverse, no gain.
5 yard pickup by Davis on a pass from Detmer. Chimmy Chong is not in yet.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 17, 2006, 10:21:05 PM
They had better do something in regards to WR help. There has been one catch all night by a WR.
Hopefully McDougle heals quick or Fraley will have to carry him onto the plane.
scary huh? when your focal point according to McNabb in the si.com article cant get open in these games, houston we have a problem. when your the focal point, alot of balls get thrown your way--nothing, nada, zip, cero, goose egg so far
all we can gage so far from these outings is that he might be in for a sophmore slump...but it is still early--hopefully
Gaffney holds on to the worm burner for the first down.
A Gaffney sighting.
A double Gaffney! Back to back first down catches.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 17, 2006, 10:21:05 PM
They had better do something in regards to WR help. There has been one catch all night by a WR.
Hopefully McDougle heals quick or Fraley will have to carry him onto the plane.
Gaffney just caught 2 balls. That's 3 catches! Ha!11!1!
is this the 3rd string?
Ah... there's Koy.
Screen pass doesn't work, Detmer throws it away.
Moats gets tackled in the backfield, one yard loss.
Scramblin' Neckbeard takes it to midfield. Punt upcoming.
I know the backups are normally pretty zesty to watch, but this is making me want to vomit. There are a whole lot of positions where if an injury occurs, the season is toast.
Boller is out. Late hit on his Frenchie backup.
Baskett's mom is reading a freakin' script talking to Spads.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 17, 2006, 10:29:40 PM
I know the backups are normally pretty zesty to watch, but this is making me want to vomit. There are a whole lot of positions where if an injury occurs, the season is toast.
dont beat yourself up over it phanin.....these "bad" players you talk about will have other really good players around to cover their asses with better assigned play calling, game planning, more blitzes and alot more pressure. Im not sold on these games at all, but you do want to see progress
On D, I like what I saw from both edges. you add that middle push, it will be the D keeping us in games--surely not the WR's. Need to get the stamina and endurance up with these players and we'll be ok. still early
5:39 left, Chimmy is finally in the game.
Marty Johnson gains 13 yards.
Justice called for a false start. Marty Johnson picked up yards on the ground the next play.
Chang gets nothing on the 4th and 1 sneak. 12 men on the field for Baltimore.
12 men on the field gets us the 1st.
Jason Davis is down... clutching his knee.
Jason Davis is holding his knee, trainers are looking at him.
Sweet, is Davis gonna get the Buckhalter cart?
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 10:40:25 PM
Jason Davis is holding his knee, trailers are looking at him.
The trainers too.
Go stangle yourself.
Chang throws one to Sampy for a first down on 3rd and 14.
Chang bounces one off Thorn's knee.
Andy Thorn = stonehands
Chang throws a beautiful pass to Thorn, and he drops it.
Man does Thorn blow goats.
...does Chang throw the ball with both arms?
Chang's got a much better pass than either Koy or Garcia.
Sack on 4th down.
Yeah...Justice looks like he's false starting a lot more than it's called.
Thorn drops everything. He's stopping, dropping and rolling before he even has the ball.
Omar!
Gaither with a beautiful tackle for a loss.
Gaither stomps the runningback behind the line.
Marshall was juuuuuust a little early on that play.
If you guys had to grade Mr. Ware tonight, how would you say he did...? Looks like he had 2 good pass breakups but was supposed to be the deep inside S when he got beat for the touchdown.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on August 17, 2006, 10:49:33 PM
If you guys had to grade Mr. Ware tonight, how would you say he did...? Looks like he had 2 good pass breakups but was supposed to be the deep inside S when he got beat for the touchdown.
All the DBs looked bad, so he did alright I guess.
Outlaw picks up 5 yards after running for 30 yards on the punt.
We should give Thorn a bat, take it back from him and beat him over the head with it.
2 minute warning. This is gonna be an amazing comeback.
Chang loses roughly 50 yards on a sack.
Pat McCoy just got bizzurned, Chang sacked.
whats the score?
Carl Ford makes a nice jumping chest grab for a first down.
20-10 Balt.
about to be 21-20 with Chang and Gaffney in there.
22 seconds left in this slopfest. McCoy is being walked off the field, the trainers are taking a good look at his windburns.
Jenkins with a nice grab, goes behind the 1sts down marker, cuts around a defender, and picks up the first again.
Sampy catches one on the sideline to stop the clock.
Chang will take us to the promised land.
Chang throws one too low to Marty Johnson.
Incomplete pass to the 15, tipped up by the Ravens and nobody came up with it. Game over.
A few things...
The 1st team offense looked alright. I was hoping for much more from the WR's.
The team just isn't the same without Westbrook out there.
The 1st team defense looked pretty pedestrian. They did a good job keeping the Ravens off the board but it's pretty clear that Rayburn has no business starting. Get Bunkley in there with the 1's and see what he can do.
Buckhalter looked pretty average other than his big play. Nice to see him out there, of course, but expecting much from him is a huge stretch.
As for the second teamers, Juqua Thomas was a force out there. Bunkley looked good as well. Matt Ware looked great on one play and clueless on the next. What else is new? Lewis dropped a ball in traffic after taking a nice shot by a backup cornerback. Way to lay it on the line, scrub.
Detmer should not be on this team any longer. The pass he underthrew to Lewis was a joke. If he can't throw the ball more than 40 yards in the air, then what the hell is he still doing out there? Cut him loose and get a competent 3rd stringer. Anyone would be preferable to him at this point.
Gaither looked good to me. I loved his special teams hit even though he left the line early. Who cares, though? He got noticed and that's what he's out there for.
Moats looked like shtein. I know he's playing with the 2's but still, pee-you.
Karate Man looked good as did Diggler.
In short, a miserable night of preseason drudgery.
PS: The ETN crew is an absolute joke. The pbp idiot constantly referring to Spadaro as "spuds" is enough to make me want to jam a lit stick of dynamite in his mouth. Jaworski is annoying as usual and the camera work was atrocious.
An embarrassment of epic proportions out there.
The suckfest is over 20-10 bmore.
Max Jean-Giles seemed to be doing better.
When Hank was in at G earlier...was he replacing The Todd?
let me guess, WYSP is back on the net.
I wonder if Gaffney, G. Lewis, Wynn make the team and I'm guessing Bloom goes on IR.
Looking forward to see what Omar can do, not to pumped up about Considine so far.
Quote from: pinoyboy2pt0 on August 17, 2006, 11:01:58 PM
The suckfest is over 20-10 bmore.
Max Jean-Giles seemed to be doing better.
When Hank was in at G earlier...was he replacing The Todd?
Yes, he was playing LG.
Positives:
- Both defensive lines again. Moreso the second. Bunkley is a farging monster, but that's nothing new. Thomas was a monster as well. The first team ends played well. Kearse has much more burst off the edges this year, and Howard has a good motor.
- Gaither is a man child. All over the place with so much energy and intensity. Future star.
- Starting offensive line was pretty good. Had trouble on some plays, but the Ravens have a very good defense.
- Buckhalter baby. Picked up a really nice blitz on one play too.
- Matt Ware played a good game, as did Dawk
- Gaffney finally had a good game
Negatives:
- Greg Lewis sucks, and he's gone after tonight's debacle. What a Hoyda.
- The first team got beat by Derrick Mason on the underneath routes. Gotta fix that up.
- Koy Detmer is the worst QB in NFL history
- The second team interior line didn't give much time for Detmer, or any holes for Moats
- Moats and Mahe gotta cool it with the fumbles
- I saw some missed tackles and lazy efforts on defense and special teams
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 17, 2006, 11:01:55 PM
Buckhalter looked pretty average other than his big play.
True, but if he can stay healthy, an average back of his size can add a lot to our offense.
So, it sounds like, just as we knew before...
Koy Detmer should not be playing in the NFL. The Eagles really should go get a competent 3rd stringer, or at least one with potential to someday suck less than Detmer.
The Eagles probably need better depth at RB before they need it at WR.
Defense might have been shaky, might have been just playing "vanilla". Could have been worse.
Right?
story line of the game is jabar gaffney making a catch with under three minutes left in the game
what the hell was this front office doing in the offseason
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2006, 08:11:12 AM
story line of the game is jabar gaffney making a catch with under three minutes left in the game
what the hell was this front office doing in the offseason
:-D, that is what I was thinking listening to another 2nd and 3rd string slopfest on offense. There is really no bright spots this team has as far as depth on the offensive side of the ball.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2006, 08:11:12 AM
what the hell was this front office doing in the offseason
Andy lost some weight. So that's good.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 17, 2006, 11:27:06 PM
Positives:
- Both defensive lines again. Moreso the second. Bunkley is a farging monster, but that's nothing new. Thomas was a monster as well. The first team ends played well. Kearse has much more burst off the edges this year, and Howard has a good motor.
- Gaither is a man child. All over the place with so much energy and intensity. Future star.
- Starting offensive line was pretty good. Had trouble on some plays, but the Ravens have a very good defense.
- Buckhalter baby. Picked up a really nice blitz on one play too.
- Matt Ware played a good game, as did Dawk
- Gaffney finally had a good game
Negatives:
- Greg Lewis sucks, and he's gone after tonight's debacle. What a Hoyda.
- The first team got beat by Derrick Mason on the underneath routes. Gotta fix that up.
- Koy Detmer is the worst QB in NFL history
- The second team interior line didn't give much time for Detmer, or any holes for Moats
- Moats and Mahe gotta cool it with the fumbles
- I saw some missed tackles and lazy efforts on defense and special teams
woah there dont put Koy in there with Ryan Leaf or Heath Shuler. At least Koy is a good holder :-D
why are they even playing bunkley? he's obviously done for the season since he missed a few weeks.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 17, 2006, 11:27:06 PM
- Koy Detmer is the worst QB in NFL history
While he does suck, who could forget the following:
Pat Ryan
Brad Goebel
Bobby "BLOW THE WHISTLE REF...BLOW THE WHISTLE!" Hoying
Doug Pederson
Mike McMahon
And those are just some recent Eagles. :'(
Quote from: Butchers Bill on August 18, 2006, 11:32:47 AM
Bobby Hoying
Doug Pederson
Mike McMahon
All of the above are arguably better than Koy.
Koy literally had one acceptable game in his whole career. He farging stinks. A lot.
I want to see you argue for those guys. Go ahead. I'll wait.
Hoying had more arm than Koy ever had.
Pederson had more on-field brains than Koy ever had.
McMahon has more athletic ability than Koy ever had.
Wow. Convincing. Put them together in one body and they're actually better than Koy. Well done!
all three at one point in their career started games NOT due to injury
something that would never ever happen to koy
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 18, 2006, 12:40:13 PM
all three at one point in their career started games NOT due to injury
something that would never ever happen to koy
I think someone else on this board has a plush Koy doll in his room. :-*
Quote from: General_Failure on August 18, 2006, 12:23:38 PM
I want to see you argue for those guys. Go ahead. I'll wait.
QuoteBobby Hoying
Doug Pederson
Mike McMahon
they have all won more than 1 game as a starter in a single season.
It should be noted that IGY and Wingspan are both in the frequent-disagreements-with-FF club, and yet they still see the unflappable logic in just how horrendously awful Koy is, even compared to other horrendously awful past Eagle QBs.
Koy, Greggie, and Reno need to go out for a walk on the farm
I saw the replay on NFL Network last night and 'Spuds and Gus' were 100 times worse then the Ravens crew. I hate Spadaro. Gus works on the Bills Television Network too.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 18, 2006, 12:34:22 PM
Hoying had more arm than Koy ever had.
Pederson had more on-field brains than Koy ever had.
McMahon has more athletic ability than Koy ever had.
Who are people who have never been in my kitchen?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 18, 2006, 02:34:47 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 18, 2006, 12:34:22 PM
Hoying had more arm than Koy ever had.
Pederson had more on-field brains than Koy ever had.
McMahon has more athletic ability than Koy ever had.
Who are people who have never been in my kitchen?
:-D
is this one of those 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon-bits games?
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 18, 2006, 02:22:50 PM
I saw the replay on NFL Network last night and 'Spuds and Gus' were 100 times worse then the Ravens crew. I hate Spadaro. Gus works on the Bills Television Network too.
What would you expect from a guy named Gus and Mr Potatoe Head, guest starring a slobbering drunk Jaws
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 18, 2006, 02:34:47 PM
Who are people who have never been in my kitchen?
Cliff the mailman on "Jeopardy"
It was his mother's kitchen you ignorant fargs.
Receivers need to get a grip (http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/15302353.htm)
Pretty sobering article... but you've gotta love the last line about Bunkley.
QuoteRECEIVERS NEED TO GET A GRIP
By LES BOWEN
bowenl@phillynews.com
BALTIMORE - Donovan McNabb, standing in the pocket, patting the ball and looking, looking, looking...
Unless the Eagles do something to improve their corps of wideouts, you might see a lot of that this season. You saw more than a little of it last night, in the half McNabb and the first-team offense played against the Baltimore Ravens, whose reserves pummeled the Birds' reserves in the second half for a 20-10 preseason victory at M & T Bank Stadium.
McNabb completed six of 10 passes for 97 yards and a touchdown, but his only completion to a wide receiver went for 5 yards, to Reggie Brown. He hit tight end L.J. Smith twice over the middle, for 32 yards. Reno Mahe caught a couple of dumps, for 12 yards and a TD. The Birds' big play was a screen to Correll Buckhalter that pressure turned into a shovel pass, which Buckhalter took for 48 yards to the Ravens' 1. Kudos to Buck, playing in his first game in 2 years, but he probably won't provide much of a foundation for the Eagles' passing game.
Against the best secondary they have faced in three preseason games, the Birds' wide receivers got no separation. McNabb had decent protection much of the time, but he obviously wasn't seeing what he wanted to see downfield. Hank Baskett, the rookie who has become the people's choice, caught no passes.
Todd Pinkston was out again with those sore Achilles' tendons. Jabar Gaffney, who was billed as a solid offseason acquisition, didn't get much playing time until the second half and didn't catch a pass until the fourth quarter (he finished with four catches for 37 yards). Greg Lewis didn't play until the second half and dropped a Koy Detmer pass when he took a hard hit. Darnerien McCants drew a big Ravens penalty on the first snap and was never heard from again.
When McNabb was in, the Birds went no-huddle a lot, which might limit the long-developing play options, especially in a preseason game. And the Eagles did score (a field goal) on their opening drive, for the third successive game.
McNabb called the first-drive scores "kind of a reward" for all the hard work the Eagles have done in training camp. Overall, he liked the way the no-huddle went.
"It was good to see that we were able to move the ball, spread the ball around a little," McNabb said.
Eagles coach Andy Reid said not getting the ball to the wideouts wasn't a big deal.
"I wasn't too worried about that - as long as we move the ball, I really don't care who gets the ball," he said.
"Things happen," Baskett said. "Those guys came out, they were playing good... we were moving the ball in other ways, so we didn't have to take too many shots throwing the ball."
Brown, the presumed No. 1 receiver, has just two catches for 13 yards in three preseason games. Of course, he hasn't been on the field all that much.
"I'm really not worried about not getting the ball that much in the preseason," Brown said last night.
The Eagles managed points on their first two drives, helped both times by big penalties on the Ravens.
On the first snap of the game, the Ravens' Samari Rolle took a 33-yard pass-interference penalty, on a long throw down the left sideline to McCants. The Eagles eventually netted a 43-yard David Akers field goal.
The next time the Birds got the ball, McNabb threw incomplete on third-and-8 to Baskett, but an illegal-contact penalty on Ravens linebacker Bart Scott kept the drive alive. On second-and-9 from the Ravens' 49, McNabb rolled right and shoveled the ball to Buckhalter, who broke down the right sideline, then back to the middle, a shoulder pad pulled out of his jersey and flapping in the breeze. Buckhalter finally was stopped at the Ravens' 1. McNabb then flipped a pass to Mahe for the touchdown and a 10-0 lead.
The Ravens then drove 64 yards for the first points scored against the Birds' No. 1 defense this preseason, on a 30-yard Matt Stover field goal.
The defensive highlight of the first half came when Jevon Kearse sacked and stripped Steve McNair, ending a Ravens scoring threat on the Eagles' 30. Brian Dawkins' recovery set the Eagles up for another drive, with 2 minutes left, but Mahe fumbled the ball back to the Ravens. They then mismanaged the clock and failed to add to their total before halftime.
"To put the defense in a position like that, they worked their butts off to get a turnover and then, to go in there and be careless with the ball and lose it like that, it was a big disappointment," Mahe said. "As far as how I did, I did terrible. I [stunk]." (Yeah, no shtein! :boom)
The Birds' subs took a beating in the second half, most egregiously when the Ravens' Musa Smith blew through a huge hole on the left side and sailed 43 yards for a touchdown.
Detmer's 5-for-10, 21-yard passing night included an interception. Detmer was dodging Ravens rushers on every snap. Timmy Chang completed just seven of 17 passes for 91 yards, and was sacked three times.
"There's going to be pressure from time to time. You've got to execute through it," Detmer said. "From that standpoint, it was frustrating. We didn't do that tonight. We didn't execute through the pressure and the different things."
Buckhalter's return after 2 successive years missed to patellar-tendon tears produced the Eagles' biggest gain of the night, on the shovel-screen, but Buckhalter found little running room, gaining 8 yards on five carries. He still has two preseason games to show he can make the hard, crisp cut that once made him an effective runner between the tackles.
"I feel great, man," Buckhalter said. "I feel like the old [No.] 28. I think I'm still a little rusty, there are some things I need to work on."
"I thought he did some good things; it was good to get him in there," Reid said of Buckhalter, who has missed three of the last four seasons. Reid said Buckhalter "got a bit tired" after his long run on the screen.
The poor play of the second- and third-teamers, particularly on offense was disturbing, as Reid noted, because "some of those guys, they're going to play for us."
Birdseed
Hank Fraley saw a series with the first-team offense at left guard, in place of Todd Herremans. Fraley, unseated by Jamaal Jackson as the starting center, said he assumes that if he is going to play a utility role on the line this year, the coaches want to get him some game experience at guard... Jackson, by the way, became the father of twin girls on Tuesday,Ava and Amya... Andy Reid said rookie returner Jeremy Bloom "tweaked his hamstring" on the second of his two returns... Rookie fullback Jason Davis, who suffered a broken hand earlier in camp, left last night's game with a knee injury. Reid said he would have an MRI exam today...
Ryan Moats, who tended to fumble a lot even as a college star at Louisiana Tech, lost one on his first carry of the preseason. He has fumbled several times in training-camp practices this summer. Moats waved away a reporter after the game. Reid said that Moats "needs to make sure he keeps the ball high and tight, and [needs to] make sure he covers up with both hands over the ball and secures it when he gets tackled"...
First-round rookie Brodrick Bunkley wasn't too excited about his 1 1/2 sacks. "It's just another stat, man," he said. "It's still the preseason." :yay
Man I tell ya, if Im Reid and Im saying to myself that I dont care if the WR's cant get seperation as long as we move the ball--there lies the big problem. he cant possibly think this will be a reoccurring play by play
maybe he didnt realize that both those long first downs came from pass interference calls-both questionable. If they didnt have those-- Dirk Johnson would have been player of the game (hyperbolic--FF)
there seems to be way too much complacency in Reids part with this O, and that will always remain a mystery to me
I'm hoping we get a Sinorice/Santana Moss clone next year in the top 2 rounds. Working those long balls (hah!), slants, wr screens. Was hoping for Sinorice, but can't really argue with our top 2 picks. I just keep on wondering what the slant Baskett took would have looked like with a Sinorice type guy. Or I guess that guy is Bloom for us next year. ;)
Why do people want Sinorice so bad? He sucked in college, and probably wont ever be a #2 or #1.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 19, 2006, 11:45:42 AM
Why do people want Sinorice so bad? He sucked in college, and probably wont ever be a #2 or #1.
he has a cool name.
besides that, he's been hurt most of camp. so in a way we already have a sinorice moss clone...