QuoteUpdated: Aug. 14, 2006, 3:24 PM ET
Jets deal CB Strait to Browns for RB Suggs Associated Press
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- The New York Jets got the running back help they needed Monday, acquiring Lee Suggs from the Cleveland Browns in exchange for defensive back Derrick Strait.
With Curtis Martin on the physically-unable-to-perform list because of a lingering knee injury, the Jets were desperate to get another back on the roster. Derrick Blaylock and Cedric Houston were taking most of the plays at running back, but neither is the type of player who can shoulder the entire rushing load.
Martin's future is less certain. He underwent surgery on his right knee in December, and has yet to recover fully. He has yet to practice, and reports have said he has a "bone on bone" condition in his knee. But Martin continues to rehab, and said last week he wants to play this season.
Suggs hasn't been able to stay on the field for the Browns, who selected him in the fourth round of the 2003 draft. At various times in his pro career, Suggs has been sidelined by injuries to a shoulder, neck, toe, ankle and thumb.
The speedy 6-foot, 213-pounder appeared in only seven games as a rookie because of a shoulder injury he sustained at Virginia Tech. In his final game that season, he ran for 186 yards and two touchdowns.
Suggs won a starting job in training camp in 2004, but hurt his neck in the final preseason game and was inactive for the first three games of the regular season. He returned to play in seven games before missing three straight with a toe injury.
He finished '04 with 744 yards and two touchdowns.
Suggs hurt his ankle during the preseason last year and missed Cleveland's first two games. He dressed in Weeks 3 and 4 but injured his thumb and was inactive for six weeks.
Suggs has rushed for 1,048 yards and four TDs as a pro.
Strait was a third-round pick in 2004 but has been a backup in his two NFL seasons. During camp, he moved over to safety in the absence of Erik Coleman, out after an appendectomy. Strait had 31 tackles last season, but has yet to notch his first career interception.
"It's a great opportunity for Derrick," said his agent, Michael Lartigue. "They know what kind of player Derrick is. Lee Suggs is a great running back. It's a fresh start, change of scenery for both Derrick and Lee."
Strait will bring some immediate and needed depth at cornerback for the Browns.
Daylon McCutcheon recently underwent arthroscopic knee surgery and may not be back in time for the Sept. 10 season opener against New Orleans. Gary Baxter strained his left pectoral muscle on the first play from scrimmage Thursday in the preseason opener in Philadelphia and is expected to be out three to four weeks.
Good.
Strike him off the Eagles wish list...........
i really thought we would get strait.
Well no, we got Garcia. ... look, someone had to do it, alright?
Way to take one for the team, sir. Team player. Reno Mahe approves.
why does it always seem like its so easy for other teams to get players but us? especially a position we need..
'a position we need' and 'a position that the front office puts value on' are two completely different things. That's why.
go ahead and question a corner, and question a linebacker as players to value in the Eagles system, but never underestimate a f-in RB.
You cant afford not to run the ball. How that is not highly valued by the front office is truly baffling
They like Westbrook and Moats. If you'd like to complain about it more, take it back to the right forum.*
*assuming you can and the server has not become unavailable.
If the Eagles didn't value the running game they wouldn't have signed Westbrook to the kind of contract they did.
I'll jump on their nuts for not signing the right kind of running backs, but for God's sake, inferring that they're too cheap to sign them is retarded, reese.
Quote from: reese125 on August 14, 2006, 08:34:20 PM
go ahead and question a corner, and question a linebacker as players to value in the Eagles system, but never underestimate a f-in RB.
Cornerback, Safety and DE are the positions that this front office DOES value on defense. Not sure what you're talking about with the corner comment.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 14, 2006, 08:37:47 PM
If the Eagles didn't value the running game they wouldn't have signed Westbrook to the kind of contract they did.
I would argue that the Westbrook contract was the dumbest pile of shtein contract this team could have given out and actually represented a step AWAY from valuing the running game. Why sign a RB who is only good at being a receiver and occasional homerun threat to a contract like that if you actually have any intention of running the ball?
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa......hold the bus gus
someones misreading here. My only position is stating Suggs for a backup and he is very suitable behind Westy.
Man, you got to be careful round here, bear traps everywhere
Quote from: General_Failure on August 14, 2006, 08:36:29 PM
They like Westbrook and Moats. If you'd like to complain about it more, take it back to the right forum.*
*assuming you can and the server has not become unavailable.
GF, I just saw that astericks...good stuff
But Suggs is more injury prone than Westbrook.
I disagree, I think Westy can be an effective runner its just he should only carry it 10-15 times a game and have another RB on the roster that can be a tough in between the tackles runner. I think they believe they have that in Moats and that is what Buck would have been had he ever been able to stay healthy.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 14, 2006, 08:46:50 PM
I disagree, I think Westy can be an effective runner its just he should only carry it 10-15 times a game and have another RB on the roster that can be a tough in between the tackles runner. I think they believe they have that in Moats and that is what Buck would have been had he ever been able to stay healthy.
You're just further proving my point. A guy who catches 4 balls a game and is only useful for 10 or so carries doesn't deserve that kind of contract and signing him to it doesn't indicate a dedication to the running game.
its no secret when watching Moats run. very fast slasher, great on the outside....but when blown on, falls over. he is not your inside between the tackle threat
Quote from: rjs246 on August 14, 2006, 08:49:23 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 14, 2006, 08:46:50 PM
I disagree, I think Westy can be an effective runner its just he should only carry it 10-15 times a game and have another RB on the roster that can be a tough in between the tackles runner. I think they believe they have that in Moats and that is what Buck would have been had he ever been able to stay healthy.
You're just further proving my point. A guy who catches 4 balls a game and is only useful for 10 or so carries doesn't deserve that kind of contract and signing him to it doesn't indicate a dedication to the running game.
all it did was indicate the kind of threat he is..which is a solid one. I dont question that contract, I question the offensive lines injuries and Andys play calling.
Quote from: reese125 on August 14, 2006, 08:51:28 PM
its no secret when watching Moats run. very fast slasher, great on the outside....but when blown on, falls over. he is not your inside between the tackle threat
He's actually a pretty good inside runner for being small. And he's strong. He does not go down easy. When he hurt his knee I watched him drag several defenders on his back and never went down.
He needs to get better on his catching, which he is. And his blocking - which we haven't seen enough of yet this year to see if he has.
then you must be watching a new and improved Ryan Moats--one that the coaches arent questioning and have no need to to be looking for another RB :paranoid
cause from my view in front of the TV set last year, the Linc's wind looked too strong for him......but ill take your word on it
I don't think they are looking to replace Moats. I think they're looking for a solid 3rd option.
a Jeremey Bridges offsides penalty is more exciting than this trade.
Jeremy Bridges plays offensive line, so an off-sides penalty would actually be notable.
If the Eagles didn't value the running game they wouldn't have signed Westbrook to the kind of contract they did.
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If they didn't value the running game and more specifically the running back position they wouldn't have given Westbrook a big contract.
What part of that don't you understand?
Nice smiley by the way. I think rjs's head just spontaneously combusted.
trade cancelled
suggs failed his physical
the Eagles are now interested
Suggs = injury prone. Worse than BWest.
it's probably posted somewhere else but the jets traded for kevan barlow...they gave up an undisclosed draft pick to sf.
maybe we should make a trade...instead of picking up the free agent scraps...
Quote from: mussa on August 21, 2006, 09:02:55 AM
maybe we should make a trade...instead of picking up the free agent scraps...
If the Eagles made a trade for a RB it would most likely be for other team's scraps..
PFT.com:
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POSTED 12:05 p.m. EDT, August 21, 2006
SPECULATION MOUNTS THAT JETS INTENTIONALLY FLUNKED SUGGS
In the wake of the trade that sent running back Kevan Barlow to the Jets from the 49ers, there is growing speculation in league circles that the Jets knew that Barlow was available before deciding that Browns running back Lee Suggs was not able to pass a Jets-imposed physical.
The Jets acquired Suggs last week in a trade with the Browns, but Suggs failed the physical due apparently to a knee injury that Suggs had suffered in college -- and that had not prevented him from practicing with or playing for the Browns.
The speculation (and we emphasize that it is only speculation) is that the Niners offered up Barlow after word broke of the Suggs trade, that the Jets then nixed the Suggs trade by finding that he had flunked his physical, and then that the Niners and the Jets opted to wait a few days before doing the deal, in order to defuse any suspicions regarding whether there was any winking and/or nodding going on between the 49ers and the Jets before the Suggs deal went down the tubes.
Meanwhile, one league source has offered up an opinion regarding our story from earlier on Monday as to the Jets' emphasis on character guys and the decision to acquire Barlow: "If they were that concerned about high character and people, this trade that they just made really goes against that thought process." The source added that Barlow's reputation in league circles is far from stellar, and that he's not regarded as a high-character guy.
Also, to the extent that the Jets are being perceived as doing things the "Patriots way," there are other deviations. The team's decision to circulate a depth chart with the players listed in alphabetical order is something that not even the facts-frugal Bill Belichick has ever tried to get away with.
That sucks for Suggs. He got his value shtein all over. I would take Suggs over Davis at this point. Davis is a 32, and microfracture surgery is nasty shtein.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 21, 2006, 01:38:46 PM
PFT.com:
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POSTED 12:05 p.m. EDT, August 21, 2006
SPECULATION MOUNTS THAT JETS INTENTIONALLY FLUNKED SUGGS
In the wake of the trade that sent running back Kevan Barlow to the Jets from the 49ers, there is growing speculation in league circles that the Jets knew that Barlow was available before deciding that Browns running back Lee Suggs was not able to pass a Jets-imposed physical.
The Jets acquired Suggs last week in a trade with the Browns, but Suggs failed the physical due apparently to a knee injury that Suggs had suffered in college -- and that had not prevented him from practicing with or playing for the Browns.
The speculation (and we emphasize that it is only speculation) is that the Niners offered up Barlow after word broke of the Suggs trade, that the Jets then nixed the Suggs trade by finding that he had flunked his physical, and then that the Niners and the Jets opted to wait a few days before doing the deal, in order to defuse any suspicions regarding whether there was any winking and/or nodding going on between the 49ers and the Jets before the Suggs deal went down the tubes.
Meanwhile, one league source has offered up an opinion regarding our story from earlier on Monday as to the Jets' emphasis on character guys and the decision to acquire Barlow: "If they were that concerned about high character and people, this trade that they just made really goes against that thought process." The source added that Barlow's reputation in league circles is far from stellar, and that he's not regarded as a high-character guy.
Also, to the extent that the Jets are being perceived as doing things the "Patriots way," there are other deviations. The team's decision to circulate a depth chart with the players listed in alphabetical order is something that not even the facts-frugal Bill Belichick has ever tried to get away with.
That sucks for Suggs. He got his value shtein all over. I would take Suggs over Davis at this point. Davis is a 32, and microfracture surgery is nasty shtein.
I agree. When healthy Suggs is a really good back. Perhaps he and Westy can take turns on the NFL Injury Report and between the two of them give the Eagles a running game.