Reid said that they might have to look at signing a RB because Ryan Moats is still a week away from practicing and with Buck being kept in bubblewrap the injury to Perry doesn't help.
Perry flew home with the team
Adrien Clarke had back spasms
Calvin Armstrong has a sprained knee
Scott Young strained a hamstring
Pat McCoy suffered a concussion
Greg Richmond injured his back
Nothing too serious. The only questionable thing on there is the back injury to Richmond. Greg missed all of last year with a herniated disk in his back that needed surgery. So if it is anything connected with that it opens up the door for Dedrick Roper to get some snaps and possibly for Tank Daniels to get some more PT.
I know the backup OL was nothing special, but Bruce Perry wasn't either.
They do need another RB.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 07, 2006, 06:44:27 AM
I know the backup OL was nothing special, but Bruce Perry wasn't either.
They do need another RB.
Perry seemed to get some yards at times, but
two fumbles is just unacceptable. And that has nothing to do with the OL and everything to do with Perry not holding on to the ball.
I know... duh.
What is available on the scrap heap of RBs other than Lamar Gordon?
Stephen Davis is still out there (shout out to Phreak...)
Dorsey Levens is still out there, too.
Clarett as well.
I wonder what Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter, and Curtis Enis are doing with their time...
Get Barry Sanders!
these injuries may not be serious, but if these guys cant play in a few days it will force the others to play even longer in this next preseason and risk injury. Damn HOF game.
Quote from: MURP on August 07, 2006, 09:14:45 AM
these injuries may not be serious, but if these guys cant play in a few days it will force the others to play even longer in this next preseason and risk injury. Damn HOF game.
Well, the only real concern in that regard is the OL and the RB's.
Here's to hoping the Eagles acquire another RB.
Can Ashley Lelie run the ball?
If he could, he'd probably be doing it for Denver...considering their current RB woes.
I hope that Scott Young's hamstring gets infected and forces his leg to be amputated.
That's all.
Id go for Chris Brown from the Titans, injury issues or not--he'd do well as a backup
But that's why he wants out of Tennessee - he wants to start.
Don't worry guys, Buckhalter should be back any day now.
I'm hoping that his inevitable injury factors into the law of averages and spares someone more important.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 07, 2006, 10:14:04 AM
But that's why he wants out of Tennessee - he wants to start.
his first wish is to go to Miami --one to be on a champion calibur team (he thinks) and two--he knows Ronnie boy is the starter and a very good one at that.
he must be complacent on a backup role, which is where he belongs in my opinion. hes too fragile to get tons of reps
Good thing the Eagles don't have fragile running backs.
Quote from: reese125 on August 07, 2006, 10:30:45 AM
he must be complacent on a backup role
Are you actually getting dumber by the minute? It's a remarkable thing to witness, really.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 07, 2006, 10:34:11 AM
Good thing the Eagles don't have fragile running backs.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2006, 10:35:36 AMAre you actually getting dumber by the minute? It's a remarkable thing to witness, really.
the rare back-to-back zing, cool
Quote from: rjs246 on August 07, 2006, 10:35:36 AM
Quote from: reese125 on August 07, 2006, 10:30:45 AM
he must be complacent on a backup role
Are you actually getting dumber by the minute? It's a remarkable thing to witness, really.
listen jackass, understand the way I was saying it before you start with your cool guy rants.
Nobody in the NFL is complacent with a backup role. I just think thats a great spot for him..beat it rj--your boring the $htein out of me kid
My boring the shtein out of you?
I hope you guys are happy, I have to spend three minutes just scrolling to get to the bottom of the profanity filter now.
Quote from: reese125 on August 07, 2006, 10:30:45 AM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 07, 2006, 10:14:04 AM
But that's why he wants out of Tennessee - he wants to start.
his first wish is to go to Miami --one to be on a champion calibur team (he thinks) and two--he knows Ronnie boy is the starter and a very good one at that.
he must be complacent on a backup role, which is where he belongs in my opinion. hes too fragile to get tons of reps
Chris Brown is a Jewish Senior Citizen? Oy.
I aim to confuse.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 07, 2006, 12:16:38 PM
Quote from: reese125 on August 07, 2006, 10:56:51 AM
Quote from: reese125 on August 07, 2006, 10:30:45 AM
he must be complacent on a backup role
Nobody in the NFL is complacent with a backup role.
Sure.
In my opinion, Detmer has gotten way complacent as a back-up. He has lost all fire to come in and compete, he is way out of touch with his team, and therefore he sucks. He is not the Detmer we saw all of three quarters in at San Francisco several years ago.
He was just happy making the minimum, coming in to hold for Akers and driving around in some jalopy dressed in his Walmart special.
The point was that it only took reese 26 minutes within the same thread to completely contradict himself.
But thanks for ruining it by wasting our time talking about neckbeard.
man, my jock hurts. 2 posts about me within the hour bud?
i love you too
Quote from: reese125 on August 07, 2006, 01:26:48 PM
i love you too
I can only hope you'll waffle on that stance like with your thoughts on Chris Brown.
is reese flailing?
like a paralyzed seal
I'm surprised that the handicapable seal community has not yet demanded a public apology for my comments.
Speaking of handicapped beings, are we sure Jeff Garcia's arm isn't injured?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 07, 2006, 01:52:48 PM
I'm surprised that the handicapable seal community has not yet demanded a public apology for my comments.
Speaking of handicapped beings, are we sure Jeff Garcia's arm isn't injured?
either that or hes hitting too many lines of Coke before the game. Cause he was worse than Randal with the happy feet last night!
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 07, 2006, 08:40:17 AM
Stephen Davis is still out there (shout out to Phreak...)
My brains are leaking out of my ears now, thank you.
If they really lose all confidence in Perry, then I'd call and see what the Titans are willing to give up for Chris Brown. I wouldn't go higher than a 4th and a player. Most likely Perry will be the guy in the rotation.
Him running behind the first team offensive line will do him good. He needs to work on those fumbles though. Tiki showed that can be fixed, so I'm not too worried about it.
I've seen this comparison to Tiki over and over again today (here and elsewhere). The reason Tiki was given the opportunity to work out his fumbling problems is because he had/has a farging TON of talent. Bruce Perry will probably get the rest of the this preseason and then be shown the door. And that will be the last any of us hear from or think of him ever again. No one's going to be lamenting the downturn Bruce Perry's career took and what could have been if only he'd learned to hold on to the ball.
Simpletons.
What he said... ^^^
Mahe outplayed Bruce Perry big-time last night. It wasn't even close.
Mahe always outplays all other backups in the preseason, the sucks in the regular season.
bruce perry is unfortunately the second best running back on this team
yes perry>moats
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2006, 08:02:11 AM
bruce perry is unfortunately the second best running back on this team
yes perry>moats
Your Maryland bias is getting the best of you. A healthy Moats is a significantly better runner than is Perry. Period.
Bruce Perry circa 2002 > injured and not playing Ryan Moats circa 2006
Bruce Perry circa 2006 = injured and not playing Ryan Moats circa 2006
Pfft...no way Perry is better than Moats.
hes from philly not maryland...wash your mouth out with soap...bustleton represent...thats the bias dook
health is a big issue and if you include that then moats is better...but when both healthy perry is the better player
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 08, 2006, 08:13:19 AM
hes from philly not maryland...wash your mouth out with soap...bustleton represent...thats the bias dook
health is a big issue and if you include that then moats is better...but when both healthy perry is the better player
I meant University of Maryland... you know, that school right around the corner from your house? Don't even try to tell me that you didn't get a slightly closer look at his collegiate career than most backs, especially Moats...
Also, you're simply wrong. Even without the injury issues, Perry has always had a fumbling problem. And the injury issues with Perry are real and recurring. The guy simply doesn't know how to avoid taking the big hits, and because of that, he'll always be injured often.
But if you take out the fumbling and the injuries, Perry runs with a little more power and Moats has more elusiveness. You could argue that Perry might be the better runner if you'd like. However, he's not the better overall player, and it's not even close.
moats would like his bird back
neither are particularly great...but perry is better when healthy
agree to disagree
I'm reading that Moats may be out for the season from the Taters, per WIP.
Can anyone in the know clarify if this is BS or not? Yes, I understand the sources.
I have heard nothing which would lead to that conclusion being true.
WIP is likely speculating, as I have, because the Eagles have not been very specific about Moats' injury.
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 08, 2006, 09:20:32 AM
I'm reading that Moats may be out for the season from the Taters, per WIP.
Can anyone in the know clarify if this is BS or not? Yes, I understand the sources.
WTF?????????
Why is this so hard to believe? The team has said next to nothing about the injury since he got hurt and Reid has alluded to picking up another RB. I'm surprised people haven't been speculating about this until now.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2006, 09:35:51 AM
Why is this so hard to believe? The team has said next to nothing about the injury since he got hurt and Reid has alluded to picking up another RB. I'm surprised people haven't been speculating about this until now.
It's not hard to believe at all, IGY's been speculating about it the day after it happened.
Just trying to clear up what is bullshtein or not.
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 08, 2006, 09:48:17 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 08, 2006, 09:35:51 AM
Why is this so hard to believe? The team has said next to nothing about the injury since he got hurt and Reid has alluded to picking up another RB. I'm surprised people haven't been speculating about this until now.
It's not hard to believe at all, IGY's been speculating about it the day after it happened.
Just trying to clear up what is bullshtein or not.
:boom
Why can't our backs stay healthy!
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 08, 2006, 09:20:32 AM
I'm reading that Moats may be out for the season from the Taters, per WIP.
Can anyone in the know clarify if this is BS or not? Yes, I understand the sources.
Moats was back at practice today, per the EMB.
Moats, Gocong, and Strickland all practiced today.
Westbrook sprained his foot (not the same one as last year, severity not yet known).
EDIT: This occurred during Sunday's game, is NOT a Lis Franc, and is considered very minor.
Reggie Brown strained his calf during morning practice.
Yes, it's much more comforting that it took merely 9 plays in a live game to injure Westbrook.
It's a fargin' sprained ankle. They happen.
Let's not get carried away. Dinged up in the preseason is not the same as in-season dinged up.
over under on how many games until westbrook gets hurt bad enough to miss a game or games: week four
He's totally not injury prone.
Yes, it happens. Except it never seems to happen to Runyan, and happen a lot to Westbrook. I'm sure in the end there's a nice bell curve. But I wish Westbrook wasn't on the injury tail.
It's ok. We shouldn't factor injuries into how we rate a player anyway.
See the Perry/Moats debate for more details.
The over. Week six.
Over, Week 12, just in time to miss the playoffs.
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 08, 2006, 09:20:32 AM
...from the Taters, per WIP.
I thought we raised you better than that.
supposedly WIP is reporting that Darwin has a fractured rib
is anyone suprised he's hurt again
Nope. Would anyone be completely opposed to just cutting him? He's been all downhill since his extension a couple of years ago. Although Rayburn would be the most experienced DT on the roster if you dont count Jasper, because he probably wont get much playing time anyways.
Cutting Walker would be dumb.
He's been playing well so far this year. He started off well last year too until his injury. I thought he got away from focusing solely on football last year though. But he has looked good in camp.
Holdout or no holdout, if Walker is hurt on opening day, I would say the odds are good that Bunkley will start.
I don't put much stock into who starts at DT though. They rotate so often it almost doesn't matter who happens to be out there first.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 09, 2006, 11:51:23 AM
Cutting Walker would be dumb.
He's been playing well so far this year. He started off well last year too until his injury. I thought he got away from focusing solely on football last year though. But he has looked good in camp.
It is just camp though. McDougle had a great camp and didnt look that good in the preseason game. Im not saying I would cut Walker, but it should be atleast an option.
A broken rib hardly keeps you out long term. Rest a while, heal a bit, suck up the pain, and play. farg.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 09, 2006, 11:56:54 AM
A broken rib hardly keeps you out long term. Rest a while, heal a bit, suck up the pain, and play. farg.
It's better than the famous "thigh bruise" that ruined his season last year.
If this was Ed Jasper, I'd agree. But Walker is a good DT. Injury problems or not, you don't just cut good football players (unless they have the middle name Eldorado).
This shouldn't even be a blip on the radar. One position that is really deep is DT.
I'd consider trading him and a pick to try and get a WR. This would open up a spot and Ramsey would definitely make the team, when he might get claimed on the practice squad. Ramsey could turn out to be just as good as Walker, and he would probably be the 4th or 5th DT. They both can play a bit of DE too.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 09, 2006, 12:23:25 PM
I'd consider trading him and a pick to try and get a WR. This would open up a spot and Ramsey would definitely make the team, when he might get claimed on the practice squad. Ramsey could turn out to be just as good as Walker, and he would probably be the 4th or 5th DT. They both can play a bit of DE too.
Yes, his trade value couldn't be higher with a broken rib. Great plan.
Right, because it will never heal and he wouldnt be a valuable asset to any team.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 09, 2006, 12:40:55 PM
Right, because it will never heal and he wouldnt be a valuable asset to any team.
Also, the Eagles haven't dangled Walker in trade deals before and certainly didn't hope his perceived value around the league was actually higher than his true value to the team.
If it will heal and he'll be a valuable asset, why trade him? He'll certainly be more valuable than Ramsey this year. And he's way better than Truck Driver or Jasper.
Trading him or releasing him is about as dumb as putting the franchise tag on Rod Hoo...er, wait a minute.
Anyways, he stays.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 09, 2006, 12:44:56 PM
If it will heal and he'll be a valuable asset, why trade him? He'll certainly be more valuable than Ramsey this year. And he's way better than Truck Driver or Jasper.
He has more value then the other guys the Eagles have been trying to trade, and they could probably afford to lose him.
Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on August 08, 2006, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 08, 2006, 09:20:32 AM
...from the Taters, per WIP.
I thought we raised you better than that.
:-D That's why I said "I understand the sources".
You laugh, but those goofy bastiches occasionally come up with some gold.
Bunkley will play per Andy (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060809/SPORTS/60809013)All the injuries open the door for Bunk
interesting....i dont see buck on his list of players who are out
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 09, 2006, 01:18:51 PM
interesting....i dont see buck on his list of players who are out
Quote
Reid's injury list: "These people will not play tomorrow. Running back Correll Buckhalter, lineback Chris Gocong, safety Quintin Mikell, running back Ryan Moats, tackle Calvin Armstrong, wide receiver Jeremy Bloom, guard Adrien Clarke, tackle Pat McCoy, running back Bruce Perry, wide receiver Todd Pinkston, linebacker Greg Richmond, defensive tackle Darwin Walker, running back Brian Westbrook and guard Scott Young. Then, cornerback Matt Ware is questionable, he's got a tight lower back and we are just working on that to see if we can't get it loose."
um, first person he names is buck
guess its not that interesting after all
Quote
Posted on Wed, Aug. 09, 2006
Ashley Fox | Eagles backfield depth is running dry
By Ashley Fox
Inquirer Columnist
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Reno Mahe is one of the most endearingly optimistic guys in an Eagles uniform, but even he had to laugh yesterday at the absurdity of him being the Birds' starting running back. A couple years ago, he was shooting to make the practice squad. Yesterday, he was running with the first-team offense.
"The reality is," Mahe said, "I'm a bubble player. I never know what's going to happen to me."
With the news that Brian Westbrook has a sprained left foot, that pretty much sums up the Eagles' running back situation right now. Andy Reid doesn't know exactly what is going to happen from one practice to the next, much less what's going to happen once the regular season starts.
Four weeks before the regular season starts, it's way too early to panic, but the durability of the Birds' running backs has become an issue.
Reid has said he wants to keep the ball on the ground more than he did last year, and he certainly stuck to his word on that first series against Oakland on Sunday. Seven of the nine plays on the drive were for Westbrook, who gained 46 yards and scored from a yard out.
But just who is going to be healthy enough to carry the load this season? Westbrook? Correll Buckhalter? Bruce Perry? Ryan Moats? Thomas Tapeh? Mahe? The depth chart changes almost hourly.
Here's the latest injury update:
Some time after the Oakland game, Westbrook reported soreness in his left foot. He was diagnosed with a foot sprain, although not a Lis franc sprain like the one he suffered to his right foot late last season. Westbrook won't play tomorrow night against Cleveland, and Reid called him "day-to-day."
Buckhalter practiced yesterday, but he will wait to play until next week's preseason game at Baltimore, Reid said after the afternoon practice. Reid wants Buckhalter, who missed all of last season after tearing his patellar tendon during training camp, to get more work in at practice before playing a game.
After being out since July 26 with a sprained knee, Moats worked out yesterday, although he did not participate in the contact drills toward the end of practice. Neither Moats nor Reid would say whether he would play tomorrow. "I don't want to hurt myself," Moats said.
Two days after suffering what the team said was a concussion in the waning minutes of the Raiders game, Perry missed practice yesterday. He's gone from being a bright spot at training camp to a question mark because of his injury and his inability to hold onto the football.
So Mahe yesterday ran with the ones and Tapeh with the twos. After the morning workout, the Eagles announced they signed Marty Johnson, who recently was released by Denver and who played for NFL Europe's Berlin Thunder earlier this year, rushing for 424 yards and two touchdowns.
Clearly, the Birds need bodies.
When asked whether the Eagles have enough running backs to have an effective rushing attack, offensive coordinator Marty Morninweg said, "We'll see."
"We think we have some pretty good backs on this team," Morninweg said. "That's one of the great things about having five preseason games. We're going to find out."
New England was able to win Super Bowl XXXVIII with an offense that ranked 27th in rushing during the 2003 season. But that off-season, the Patriots replaced Kevin Faulk with Corey Dillon. With Dillon as the starter in 2004, the Patriots skyrocketed to seventh in rushing, and, of course, beat the Eagles (24th in rushing) in Super Bowl XXXIX.
Last season's Super Bowl participants, Seattle and Pittsburgh, ranked third and fifth, respectively, in rushing. The Steelers mainly used a combination of little-known undrafted free agent Willie Parker, who exploded for more than 1,200 yards during the regular season, and Jerome Bettis. The Seahawks had the league's leading rusher, Shaun Alexander.
"I look at the champions of the league last year. [It was] the team that threw the fewest passes per game," Dallas coach Bill Parcells said recently. "This league doesn't change too much."
If the Eagles are to change from the team that went 6-10 a season ago, they will have to have a healthy collection of running backs. For the most part, the days when teams use one power back are gone. Colleges aren't producing them, so NFL teams are forced to choose from smaller players and use them on a rotating basis.
On paper, the Birds have such a rotation, and there might even be a sleeper, a la Parker, among them. But so far through camp, nagging injuries have been a problem. Durability is becoming an issue.
So in early August, the Eagles are left with Mahe, a 26-year-old who enters his fourth season with 43 career carries for 178 yards and zero touchdowns.
During a goal-line drill yesterday, Mahe was unable to find any running room and a couple of times was stuffed for what in a game would've been lost yardage.
Mahe is smart enough to know he isn't the answer.
"I think they've got to be trying to figure out what to do," he said. "I have no control over that. I've just got to take it as a responsibility... . I've never thought about [being the feature back]. I've always just been zoned in on doing my part as far as special teams go. It's one of those things, when the opportunity comes, you've got to make the most of it, especially someone in my position."
:paranoid
its not gonna be very good anyway....but how downright ugly is their offense gonna be when westbrook goes down this year...if he even makes it to the regular season
i think it's hilariously ironic that they are waiting to play Buck against the team he played his last game against.
Anyone else terrified by the fact that Mahe has a 4.1 ypc average?
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 09, 2006, 01:57:18 PM
i think it's hilariously ironic that they are waiting to play Buck against the team he played his last game against.
Yeah, but that was so long ago anyway that it's meaningless.
Fearless prediction: Mahe has a good game tomorrow night.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 09, 2006, 06:57:39 PM
Fearless prediction: Mahe has a good game tomorrow night.
...behind the #1 OL
...against the Browns
...in the pre-season.
Fearless!
Fearless prediction #2: Mahe catches a punt, does a Carlton Banks, gains 3 yards, gets the game ball from Reid
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 09, 2006, 07:03:12 PM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 09, 2006, 06:57:39 PM
Fearless prediction: Mahe has a good game tomorrow night.
...behind the #1 OL
...against the Browns
...in the pre-season.
Fearless!
I didn't see anyone else with the balls to make the same prediction hence making it 'fearless'.
Quote(http://www.concretefield.com/images/pw-reno.jpg)
Laugh at him now, but he's two injuries away from being named the starter.
Die.
Sorry, I should update that to say one injury now.
McDougle hurt his ribs today. They showed the clip on CSN of him laying on the ground with Burkholder checking out the ribs and the McDougle walking to the sideline. CSn didn't say exactly what the injury was though.
Kearse tweaked his knee
Pinkston was back practicing and limping
Bloom practiced.
Did Kearse finish practice?
Not sure.
Apparently Sheldon Brown strained his back today.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 13, 2006, 10:47:22 AM
Apparently Sheldon Brown strained his back today.
I read it was a 'sprain' on PE.com. I hope its a strain.
The official report says sprain.
MJG had cramps. Get the boy some Midol...
when is training camp ending?
Wed I think.
QuoteEagles Notes | McDougle leaves with rib injury
Eagles Notes
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - Defensive end Jerome McDougle left the field with an injury to the right side of his ribs for the second straight day.
He suffered the injury during Saturday's practice and tried to return yesterday but was carted off early in the workout. Players are not allowed to comment on injuries, but McDougle was in obvious pain as he left the field house.
Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Johnson is hopeful that McDougle can recover to play in Thursday night's game against the Baltimore Ravens because he feels the defensive end needs the playing time after missing all of last season while recovering from a gunshot wound to the stomach.
McDougle had a sack in the Eagles' 20-7 win over the Cleveland Browns last week and was understandably excited about his progress.
"The thing about Jerome is he played a little better last week than he did the week before," Johnson said. "Hopefully, he will be playing again Thursday because he does need that game experience. I think the first game, he was kind of tentative, and then the last game, he kind of let it go a little bit and played much better."
Another injury that appears to be serious involves linebacker Greg Richmond's back. Richmond, who missed last season after undergoing surgery to repair a herniated disk in his lower back, went down in the preseason opener against Oakland and has not returned to the field since. He had trouble just getting into his car yesterday.
"I know it's really bothering him," Johnson said.
Linebacker Chris Gocong also remains out of contact drills after suffering a stinger in practice a few weeks ago. That has left Dedrick Roper as the only other strong-side linebacker behind Dhani Jones.
"I think Dhani is doing a good job," Johnson said. "I like the way he is playing. He is playing well and he is playing smart."
Cornerback Sheldon Brown sat out with a lower-back strain. Guard Max Jean-Gilles left the morning practice with cramps but returned for the afternoon practice.
The last practice open to the public is Tuesday (tomorrow). The Wednesday practice is a closed walk-through in preparation for the Baltimore fake-game.
I've been reading through all of the threads and the official PE site but can anyone supply a definative list on the status of:
Buckhalter
Westbrook
Perry
Avant
Pinkston
Thanks!
Quote from: 4and26 on August 14, 2006, 10:51:56 AM
I've been reading through all of the threads and the official PE site but can anyone supply a definative list on the status of:
Buckhalter
Westbrook
Perry
Avant
Pinkston
Thanks!
Buckhalter - practicing, looking good, and likely to suffer a career-ending injury in next pre-season game
Westbrook - seems like they are being super-careful with him so that he's 100% for the start of the season
Perry - he's toast - not going to make this team
Avant - probably the #4 receiver right now ahead of Greg Lewis - completely healthy
Pinkston - destined for the unemployment line or IR
if westbrook plays another down in the pre season reid should be starved to death
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2006, 10:56:42 AM
if westbrook plays another down in the pre season reid should be starved to death
Wouldn't that take unnecessarily long?
McDougle - BROKEN RIBS - out 3 weeks
Richmond - herniated disk - needs surgery likely done
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2006, 10:59:49 AM
Richmond - herniated disk - needs surgery likely done
That's a shame. I had high hopes for him.
Just kidding.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 14, 2006, 10:55:43 AM
Quote from: 4and26 on August 14, 2006, 10:51:56 AM
I've been reading through all of the threads and the official PE site but can anyone supply a definative list on the status of:
Buckhalter
Westbrook
Perry
Avant
Pinkston
Thanks!
Thanks... I had read that Avant was moving up the depth chart but I thought at Jabar Gaffney was the FA at WR that was goint to supply that much need 3rd - possion - wide out?
Buckhalter - practicing, looking good, and likely to suffer a career-ending injury in next pre-season game
Westbrook - seems like they are being super-careful with him so that he's 100% for the start of the season
Perry - he's toast - not going to make this team
Avant - probably the #4 receiver right now ahead of Greg Lewis - completely healthy
Pinkston - destined for the unemployment line or IR
Reid is claiming that Greg Lewis isn't getting the reps because he already knows exactly what Greg can do. However, it's getting to the point that it would seem if there are no roster changes, the following will make the team:
R. Brown
Baskett
Gaffney
McCants
Avant
(and the depth chart would be fairly similar to that)
If Reid keeps 6, Greg might get a reprieve, but it's more likely he'd just be making room for Bloom if he truly thinks he'll be able to contribute as a return man this year.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 14, 2006, 11:09:59 AM
Reid is claiming that Greg Lewis isn't getting the reps because he already knows exactly what Greg can do.
Reids way of being politically correct and not saying he stinks.
I would assume exactly that, yes.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 14, 2006, 11:09:59 AM
Reid is claiming that Greg Lewis isn't getting the reps because he already knows exactly what Greg can do.
Makes sense to me. Has anyone ever needed to practice dropping passes before?
Sean Taylor. Because he doesn't want to make the skins' WR's look bad.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 14, 2006, 10:59:49 AM
McDougle - BROKEN RIBS - out 3 weeks
Richmond - herniated disk - needs surgery likely done
McDougle - traded for a bag of Herrs Ketchup Chips and 2 bottles of grape Mad Dog 20/20, team who receives him cried they were overcharged!
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 14, 2006, 11:09:59 AM
Reid is claiming that Greg Lewis isn't getting the reps because he already knows exactly what Greg can do. However, it's getting to the point that it would seem if there are no roster changes, the following will make the team:
R. Brown
Baskett
Gaffney
McCants
Avant
(and the depth chart would be fairly similar to that)
If Reid keeps 6, Greg might get a reprieve, but it's more likely he'd just be making room for Bloom if he truly thinks he'll be able to contribute as a return man this year.
who needs Bloom if ya got JR Reid, its one or the other and the way Reid is hitting i cant see Bloom going anywhere except IR when he injures his left gnad while avoiding a tackle from Jerome McDougle who subsequently gets struck by lightning in a freak of nature happening.
You're simply not as funny as you obviously think you are. Stop it.
speaking of mad dog......are you drunk?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 14, 2006, 02:44:57 PM
speaking of mad dog......are you drunk?
That would pretty much be his only excuse, so I hope so.
# Wide receiver Todd Pinkston is expected to return to practice on Monday
-Wonder how well he'll practice??
# Jeremy Bloom will miss practice on Monday with a hamstring injury.
Not very shocking.
# Adrien Clarke had successful back surgery.
# Jason Davis tore his ACL.
When did this happen????
# Chris Gocong is still suffering from a stinger and will have tests to figure out how severe it is.
# Jerome McDougle is feeling better with his broken ribs.
# Greg Richmond had back surgery.
# Darwin Walker is still recovering from a fractured rib.
# Brian Westbrook is recovering from his ankle injury.
Quote from: 4and26 on August 21, 2006, 12:56:51 PM
# Jason Davis tore his ACL.
When did this happen????
Mid/late 4th quarter against the Ravens.
Didnt he walk off by himself though? I dont think he had a bunch of trainers or stuff come out, he just limped off the field. Pretty manly.
Bloom is destined for the PUP list. Which sucks. The little kid in me really wanted to see him play this year. It's almost certainly for the best and hopefully next year he'll be ready to step in and contribute as a returner, but it would have been fun to watch.
Quote from: 4and26 on August 21, 2006, 12:56:51 PM
# Wide receiver Todd Pinkston is expected to return to practice on Monday
-Wonder how well he'll practice??
# Jeremy Bloom will miss practice on Monday with a hamstring injury.
Not very shocking.
# Adrien Clarke had successful back surgery.
# Jason Davis tore his ACL.
When did this happen????
# Chris Gocong is still suffering from a stinger and will have tests to figure out how severe it is.
# Jerome McDougle is feeling better with his broken ribs.
# Greg Richmond had back surgery.
# Darwin Walker is still recovering from a fractured rib.
# Brian Westbrook is recovering from his ankle injury.
Saints have offered the Chargers a 4th round pick for Donnie Edwards, can the guy play Bow Tie's position? If so please trade for him
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 21, 2006, 01:57:09 PM
Saints have offered the Chargers a 4th round pick for Donnie Edwards, can the guy play Bow Tie's position? If so please trade for him
No way a LB could be brought in now to play the SAM right away. If they were going to replace Dhani with a FA, they would have done it a long time ago.
Not only that, but Edwards is just about done. I'd rather them keep the draft pick.
Yeah, Davis walked off...Ritchie did too. I'm sure the Eagles will be giving Ritchie a call in 3 years to be our starting RB.
Didnt he walk off by himself though? I dont think he had a bunch of trainers or stuff come out, he just limped off the field. Pretty manly.
happens all the time with a torn knee ligament
QuotePinkston looks good in practice
By Marc Narducci
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
Eagles wide receiver Todd Pinkston, who has seen limited participation in practice due to having two sore Achilles, had his most extensive time during today's workout at the Nova Care Complex.
Pinkston missed last year with a ruptured Achilles tendon in his right foot. Last week, coach Andy Reid suggested that he was hoping that Pinkston would be further along in recovery. Pinkston has yet to take part in contact.
Today, he admitted that he picked up the pace. In fact practice ended when Pinkston caught a 40-yard TD bomb from Donovan McNabb.
"I did a lot more work today," Pinkston said after the afternoon practice. "I felt a lot better. I'm coming out here knocking the rust off, getting back in the flow of things."
The Eagles have to know the status of Pinkston for the season before determining whether to make a trade for another receiver.
Actually there are many who feel they could use another receiver even if Pinkston returns, but that's another story.
As for Pinkston, he appeared to be tentative, something he didn't deny.
"Come on man. I was injured," Pinkston said. "I won't be 100 percent the first day coming and working out. I am trying to work myself back and pacing myself to do what I can do."
One player who was feeling good after practice was running back Correll Buckhalter, who missed the last two seasons with a torn right patellar tendon. Buckhalter saw his first action in two years during Thursday's 20-10 loss at Baltimore against the Ravens. He gained 8 yards on five carries and had a 48-yard reception.
He said he felt good the day after the game and was moving around freely during today's practice.
"I really didn't get sore at all," Buckhalter said. "My shoulder and neck were more sore than anything."
A player who wasn't as fortunate was rookie fullback Jason Davis, who tore his ACL against the Ravens. Reid said that Davis would have surgery most likely sometime next week.
The status of rookie linebacker Chris Gocong remains uncertain. Gocong has been out for most of the preseason with a stinger.
"We're concerned," Reid said. "We're having him tested right now to see exactly where he is at with that. He's been about to go out there, but hasn't been able to do contact."
this is really sad, your telling me the Simenou is going to be Dhani's backup this season? Shockey and Whitten will eat them alive.
looks like gocong should have held out
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 21, 2006, 05:00:24 PM
this is really sad, your telling me the Simenou is going to be Dhani's backup this season? Shockey and Whitten will eat them alive.
you know better than Jim Johnson.
Thank god. I have been practically beside myself without PG around to defend the massive holes in this team.
you know better than Jim Johnson.
actually jim johnson doesnt have a choice in the matter...so what he knows or doesnt know is irrelevant...if the front office refuses to address the position then johnson gets what he gets and trys to make it work
Dhani doesn't need a backup. He's the one guy that unfortunately never gets injured.
Nothing too serious. The only questionable thing on there is the back injury to Richmond. Greg missed all of last year with a herniated disk in his back that needed surgery. So if it is anything connected with that it opens up the door for Dedrick Roper to get some snaps and possibly for Tank Daniels to get some more PT
Westbrook, McDougle, Walker all back at practice (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=54215)
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 28, 2006, 03:13:52 PM
Westbrook, McDougle, Walker all back at practice (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=54215)
wow, that is fanfriggintastic news. :yay
Look for five snaps between the three of them for the final preseason game. :yay
The bad news is that McDougle kicked Walker in the thigh, then Walker shot him in the spleen. Westbrook avoided the whole situation with a fancy juke move but re-injured his ankle/foot.
Boo.
mcdougle will walk into a wasp nest before week 1
Quote from: General_Failure on August 28, 2006, 03:30:30 PM
Look for five snaps between the three of them for the final preseason game. :yay
mcdougle snaps a femur, westbrook snaps 2 ribs, and walker snaps both collar bones?
Quote from: Wingspan on August 28, 2006, 03:47:14 PM
walker snaps a femur, westbrook snaps 2 ribs, and walker snaps both collar bones?
No injury to McDougle, then?
EDIT:
Ah, very quick edit. Well done.
Reno is questionable for Sunday with a high-ankle sprain.
Lito and Westbrook are both returning punts in practice.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 21, 2006, 05:11:58 PM
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 21, 2006, 05:00:24 PM
this is really sad, your telling me the Simenou is going to be Dhani's backup this season? Shockey and Whitten will eat them alive.
you know better than Jim Johnson.
Evidently, he does.
Anyone notice when Kearse was being helped off the field the one trainer said "ACL"?
Sure hope I read his lips wrong. :-\
If they don't have to go to OT Kearse doesn't get taken out on the meatwagon.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2006, 05:05:10 PM
If they don't have to go to OT Kearse doesn't get taken out on the meatwagon.
That's what I was thinking too.
There's no farging way he's fine. It wouldnt farging work out that way, got to get punched in the farging face twice.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2006, 05:05:10 PM
Anyone notice when Kearse was being helped off the field the one trainer said "ACL"?
Sure hope I read his lips wrong. :-\
If they don't have to go to OT Kearse doesn't get taken out on the meatwagon.
Phreak, I'm afraid he's done.
I'm no expert, and I'm just guessing from the look on Kearse's face while being carted, but it didn't look good to me.
Like you, I hope I'm wrong.
This game was great for the first 2½ hours. Since then, it's been a nightmare.
Shawn Andrews - shoulder subluxation (like what Portis has)
Reggie Brown - strained hamstring
Thats all I caught on Andy's PC. He's in the process of taking all the blame now.
If he's not out for the year I'd be surprised. He looked like he was about to cry.
No Kearse, no Tito, and this defense went from pretty good to mediocre.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2006, 05:08:33 PM
Thats all I caught on Andy's PC. He's in the process of taking all the blame now.
He damn well better! He tried to get all cute (again) and lost the game (again). Dumb shtein.
Kearse was having on nice farging season too.
There's no way Kearse is not out for the year. No way. He's done. Howard, Cole and Thomas have to pick up the slack.
So who takes Kearse's spot? Thomas?
Maybe they slide Cole over. But McDougle will play a lot now along with Thomas
Cole.
Some injuries you missed PP54
Kearse - sprained knee MRI tomorrow
Hood - Heel contusion MRI tomorrow
Bartrum - sprained knee MRI tomorrow
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 17, 2006, 05:39:21 PM
Some injuries you missed PP54
Kearse - sprained knee MRI tomorrow
Hood - Heel contusion MRI tomorrow
Bartrum - sprained knee MRI tomorrow
If that's all it turns out to be... the Eagles need to get down on their knees and thank God.
Even if it is a sprain it would be a SEVERE sprain which is like 8/10 weeks anyway. Either way he's done for the season or the far majority of it.
Sprain or not he's not likely doing the team any good for the rest of this year. He'll be lucky if he doesn't have to have surgery.
Quote from: TexasEagle on September 17, 2006, 05:45:23 PM
Sprain or not he's not likely doing the team any good for the rest of this year. He'll be lucky if he doesn't have to have surgery.
That's the thing. I don't doubt he's done for the year. All I'm saying is that a sprain in ANY capacity is better than an ACL tear. If it's an ACL, that effects him even NEXT year.
why did we keep putting him back on the field when he was limping and coming off almost every other play?
With the way this game went, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kearse start next week while Hood and Bartrum go on IR. Farging insanity.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 17, 2006, 05:47:36 PM
why did we keep putting him back on the field when he was limping and coming off almost every other play?
Stupidity?
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 17, 2006, 05:47:36 PM
why did we keep putting him back on the field when he was limping and coming off almost every other play?
because he's
fargin good Retard
DGunn says a source told him possible torn ligament in Kearse's left knee
Why can't Howard replace in a worst case situation? I'm actually worried more about Hood.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 17, 2006, 05:57:48 PM
DGunn says a source told him possible torn ligament in Kearse's left knee
DGunn's source is a farging retard. I could have told him that.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 17, 2006, 05:47:36 PM
why did we keep putting him back on the field when he was limping and coming off almost every other play?
Because Kearse has been limping and coming off almost every other play since the beginning of the Super Bowl season.
That's actually how he walks now. Or, did before he blew out his knee today.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on September 17, 2006, 05:47:36 PM
why did we keep putting him back on the field when he was limping and coming off almost every other play?
The injury had nothing to do with him limping off before. Patterson's leg rammed his knee which was planted.
Howard is already a starter, Mussa.
We need to clone Howard now. 30 of him should be enough for the season.
Quote from: General_Failure on September 17, 2006, 06:19:03 PM
We need to clone Howard now. 30 of him should be enough for the season.
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
It might be a little more complicated than that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 17, 2006, 06:14:16 PM
Howard is already a starter, Mussa.
:-D
I have an interesting idea. Although Mike Lewis is obviously a beast in run support, would anyone be really opposed to starting Considine at SS? Atleast he can cover, and if the Eagles dont intend on re-signing Lewis let Considine get some playing time. It isnt like that type of move shows they're looking for next year either, it's just a legitimate benching.
At this point, Whitey can't be any worse.
Just heard Kearse is or may have surgery wednesday...on CSN :win
Gunn - Rod Hood possible bone chip on his heel.
Bartrum has been shot by disgruntled, militant Witnesses.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 17, 2006, 06:46:54 PM
Rod Hood possible bone chip on his heel.
I seem to recall saying something about being concerned about Joselio Hanson getting any meaningful playing time this year. Now... I'm more than concerned.
Methinks the beginning of the 2007 draft needs to look a lot like the 2003 draft.
This is jumping way way ahead here, but the Jets tried to trade Strait for Suggs earlier and need DT help. How about Rayburn for Strait. Strait isn't very good, but if Hood is out for extended time, we need farging somebody. Unless you want Strickland.
I'd take you at cornerback right now. Are you available to play next week?
Strickland at this point sounds good to me. I wanted him over Hanson.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 17, 2006, 06:49:49 PM
This is jumping way way ahead here, but the Jets tried to trade Strait for Suggs earlier and need DT help. How about Rayburn for Strait. Strait isn't very good, but if Hood is out for extended time, we need farging somebody. Unless you want Strickland.
I liked Strait in the 04 draft, but not anymore. He's been playing FS for them because he sucks at corner. Also...trade Rayburn? We just lost a defensive lineman for the year. Then trade one away for a guy who is arguably WORSE than Strickland?
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 17, 2006, 06:51:06 PM
Strickland at this point sounds good to me. I wanted him over Hanson.
They're effed if Hood is out the whole time Lito's out, or even close.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 17, 2006, 06:48:23 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 17, 2006, 06:46:54 PM
Rod Hood possible bone chip on his heel.
I seem to recall saying something about being concerned about Joselio Hanson getting any meaningful playing time this year. Now... I'm more than concerned.
"There's a very fine line between being scared and concerned. Since I don't like to say I'm scared, I say I'm concerned. But you know what? I really might be a little bit scared."
- Evil Knievel
I'd be concerned about the injuries even if they'd won the game.
So, since they lost, I guess I'm scared.
Sam Rayburn - pack your shtein. You'll be traded soon for secondary help.
Derrick Strait sucks.
Bring back Troy AND trade for someone.
Strait sucks, but who could we bring in that is good?
There aren't any lockdown corners on the market.
Rayburn for Strait would be a horrible trade, period. You're basically trading good depth guy for garbage MAYBE depth guy.
Donald Strickland >>> Derrick Strait
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 17, 2006, 07:42:25 PM
Strait sucks, but who could we bring in that is good?
There aren't any lockdown corners on the market.
So there's absolutely NO reason to give away any of our d-line depth for someone not worth a shtein when we can just just grab someone off the street who will be equally not worth a shtein. Especially since we just lost some of that depth today.
I guess, I was just throwing it out there.
Eskin: at least 2 of the 4 knee ligaments are torn but it's not the ACL, but it's not known how torn they are. If it's complete, he's done, but if it's partial and only requires a scope, he'll be out 6-8 weeks....
Well, that sucks.
I already had him marked as a loss for the season, so I'd consider that news mildly encouraging.
considering our season basically comes down to that stretch of 3 straight divisional road games, kearse being back and healthy for them is the key.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 18, 2006, 02:02:29 AM
I already had him marked as a loss for the season, so I'd consider that news mildly encouraging.
Agreed.
Still fargin sucks though. He was set to break out. Blame Patterson!
Well... at least he went down making a sack.
Too bad he couldn't pick up the fumble. Goddamn it angers me still to think that they had so many mother effin shots to turn that shtein around. FARG!
Other than that 4th down play, has there been a turnover from this defense yet?
On the bright side we have a lot of depth. Thomas and Cole will step in and do fine. We shouldn't miss much of a beat as long as we get push from the DTs.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 18, 2006, 02:41:22 AM
On the bright side we have a lot of depth. Thomas and Cole will step in and do fine. We shouldn't miss much of a beat as long as we get push from the DTs.
We will miss a beat, Kearse was on his way to having a monster season. McKenzie is a damn good RT and Kearse was having his way with him today. Guess its good we kept McDougle around afterall.
Now its time for my boy Jerome to step up.
Remember when we lost at TEN in 2002? Same thing. Let off the gas and coasted. Kearse also got hurt that day too for TEN (and we lost Burgess).
We'll miss Kearse a bit, but it won't be significant. We'll still be up there with the NFL leaders in sacks. We won't have bodies as fresh though. Obviously it hurt because Kearse is your best DE, but we have very good guys to step in. I actually think Cole is a better edge rusher, but overall he's not as big and athletic as Kearse. Still, get well soon Kearse. I guess the next hope is that he can be ready for next season. It's hard to recover from a knee injury.
Ramsey can play DE too.
Who starts at LDE now? I can't see JJ switching Cole to the left since he's been so effective from the right, so do you make Thomas the starter? He hasn't been bad.
Thomas most likely starts, and you bring Cole in on nickel packages and stuff like before. Thomas has looked VERY solid this season so far and has what? 2-3 sacks in limited snaps. Hopefully he picks up right where Kearse left off. Combine him with Cole, and you bring in Bunkley on some nickel too when Cole is on the edge, and keep Howard outside and we should be fine.
A couple other things.
To me, the loss of Hood is worse than Kearse, because we can't have Hanson starting against any respectable team. Period. If Hood is out for a 3-6er, then we are so farged it's not even funny.
Darren Howard has looked great in camp and preseason, but I don't believe he even has a sack yet. Is he getting doubled? I haven't rewatched any of the games. I don't know what the deal is there.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 18, 2006, 02:49:23 AM
Who starts at LDE now? I can't see JJ switching Cole to the left since he's been so effective from the right, so do you make Thomas the starter? He hasn't been bad.
McDougle and Thomas rotate at LDE and you keep Cole and Howard doing their thing at RDE. That's how I'd do it.
McDougle also practiced a lot as the Joker in camp too. So I would imagine that he would take over there for Jevon.
NJ.com (http://www.nj.com/eagles/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1158552387107850.xml&coll=5)
QuoteIf the game, one in which the Eagles had dominated and led 24-7 heading into the fourth quarter, doesn't go into overtime, veteran defensive end Jevon Kearse doesn't suffer what could very well be a long-term injury to his left knee.
If the MRI Kearse takes today reveals torn ligaments, Cole takes over at left defensive end.
That's one heck of a way to get a starting job.
The costly flag on Cole following an 8-yard pass from Eli Manning to Jeremy Shockey was just one of many crucial shifts in momentum in a game that may be talked about for years. The result also kept the Eagles (1-1) winless in the NFC East since December of 2004.
"They called (the penalty)," Cole said, "so I just have to take it like a man."
The injury to the 30-year-old Kearse will be even harder to di gest.
Off to one of his better starts since getting $16 million in up-front money to come over from the Tennessee Titans prior to the 2004 season, Kearse, seen leaving the locker room grimacing on crutches and supported by a knee brace, combined with Cole for 4 1/2 of the Eagles' eight sacks of Manning -- the most for a Jim Johnson defense since Dec. 1, 2002 against the Rams.
Asked about Kearse's knee in the hallway after the troublesome loss, Johnson bowed his head and muttered. "Not good."
QuoteEagles Notes | Injuries to Kearse, Hood are a concern
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
The Eagles probably will find out today whether they suffered some losses that could have a more lingering, long-term impact on their season than yesterday's disturbing overtime loss to the New York Giants.
Coach Andy Reid said that defensive end Jevon Kearse and cornerback Rod Hood are scheduled for MRI examinations today to determine the severity of the injuries they suffered in the Eagles' 30-24 loss.
Kearse left Lincoln Financial Field last night on crutches and with a large brace on his left knee. He suffered the injury in overtime after he combined on a sack with defensive tackle Mike Patterson.
It appeared as if he took a shot to the back of his knee from Patterson. Kearse, in his third season with the Eagles, is off to his best start since joining the team. He had 21/2 sacks yesterday, giving him 31/2 in two games.
Kearse was not available for comment after the game and Reid described the injury as a sprained knee.
Equally a concern for the Eagles is the bruised right heel suffered by Hood midway through the second quarter. After pushing running back Tiki Barber out of bounds on a play that was nullified by a Giants penalty, Hood hobbled off the field and onto the trainer's table behind the Eagles' bench.
Hood did not reenter the game, marking the second time in as many weeks that the Eagles lost a starting cornerback to injury. Hood was starting in place of Lito Sheppard, who suffered a severe ankle sprain in the season opener against Houston.
Joselio Hanson, in just his second game with the Eagles, was forced to replace Hood. Dexter Wynn, signed on Monday, became the nickel cornerback. If Hood's injury is serious, the Eagles could end up signing a cornerback for the second straight week.
Reid said that long snapper Mike Bartrum sprained his knee, although he continued to play. Bartrum also will undergo an MRI exam this morning. Tight end L.J. Smith (shoulder), wide receiver Reggie Brown (strained hamstring) and guard Shawn Andrews (shoulder) also were on Reid's injury report.
as kearse was being carted off just bevore he got in the tunnel he slammed his fist into the cart...like he knew his season was over
the secondary just isn't very good...they rely on the d-line pressuring the qb to bail them out. now the d-line is weakened with kearse's injury & the secondary is made even worse with hood's injury.
teams will throw all over the eagles.
And when the defense is forced to stay on the field for nearly the entire 4th quarter in the hot sun, they can only do so much for so long.
Injury Update from AR press conference:
Jevon has a "severe knee injury" and is still being evaluated. Doesn't look good.
Shawn Andrews will have an MRI on his shoulder.
Bartrum has a *slight* knee sprain.
Hood has a "heel strain".
L.J. has an AC strain.
Westbrook still has some knee swelling.
a heel strain doesn't sound as bad as a hell strain...so that's good news.
Did Andy actually say "It doesn't look good"?
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 12:14:21 PM
Did Andy actually say "It doesn't look good"?
No, but he certainly made it sound like they're re-evaluating to see whether or not he goes on IR.
does jevon kearse ever play another down for the eagles?
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2006, 12:21:08 PM
does jevon kearse ever play another down for the eagles?
Nope, in fact, I'd be surprised if he ever walks again. Amputation might be the only option.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 18, 2006, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2006, 12:21:08 PM
does jevon kearse ever play another down for the eagles?
Nope, in fact, I'd be surprised if he ever walks again. Amputation might be the only option.
True. And they'd probably chop off both legs just to be sure to get rid of all the overratedness.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 18, 2006, 12:21:08 PM
does jevon kearse ever play another down for the eagles?
Yes. They'll ask him to take a modest pay cut to stay with the team in 2007, and he'll agree. They love reclamation projects and guys coming off a serious injury.
However, he won't start. Trent Cole and his 15+ sacks (and 10+ 15-yard penalties) will start.
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Quote from: Susquehanna Birder on September 18, 2006, 12:38:38 PM
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A caller on Eagles LIVE asked Spadaro about the CB situation and he said that it sounds like Hood will play and Lito is getting closer.
That's absolutely great news if Hood doesn't miss any time.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 12:56:40 PM
That's absolutely great news if Hood doesn't miss any time.
Agreed. Very much agreed. His injury is actually more significant than Kearse's to the team's play in upcoming weeks.
Paging Bobby Taylor...
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 18, 2006, 12:57:59 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 12:56:40 PM
That's absolutely great news if Hood doesn't miss any time.
Agreed. Very much agreed. His injury is actually more significant than Kearse's to the team's play in upcoming weeks.
Yep...
the one that i took as troublesome was that Andrews wasn't a lock to play this week.
Quote from: SunMo on September 18, 2006, 01:04:10 PM
the one that i took as troublesome was that Andrews wasn't a lock to play this week.
ditto
Quote from: SunMo on September 18, 2006, 01:04:10 PM
the one that i took as troublesome was that Andrews wasn't a lock to play this week.
Agreed. That worries me, because they've been able to hang their hat on his "road-grading". Totally.
He's overrated.
the line as a whole is overrated. but i've heard enough people who watch tape and know better than you or me say that he's a special player, so i'll believe them.
Quote from: SunMo on September 18, 2006, 01:06:39 PM
the line as a whole is overrated. but i've heard enough people who watch tape and know better than you or me say that he's a special player, so i'll believe them.
Are you doubting the skills of Scott Young?
Just now, Eskin WIP..Kearse has torn 3 of 4 major ligaments in his knee. All except ACL. Gone for the year. IMO the only good news is ACL tears are the most career ending and the hardest to come back from :P
The site says Sprain which makes me think they are partial tears. They'd say rupture if they were complete tears. Good news for Kearse's future, but bad news obviously for this season.
Sucks.
Time for Juqua and Jerome to get it done.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 18, 2006, 03:32:53 PM
The site says Sprain which makes me think they are partial tears. They'd say rupture if they were complete tears. Good news for Kearse's future, but bad news obviously for this season.
YUP...Eagles web site says sprain. Be sweet if surgery wasn't needed :)
I'm thinking its a severe sprain/partial tear to the 3 ligaments which sucks but could be worse.
Quote from: fansince61 on September 18, 2006, 03:31:43 PM
Just now, Eskin WIP..Kearse has torn 3 of 4 major ligaments in his knee. All except ACL. Gone for the year. IMO the only good news is ACL tears are the most career ending and the hardest to come back from :P
Didn't he give some bogus TO breaking news on his ankle back in 2004? Stop listening to him. Trust the actual injury status when the team releases it.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 18, 2006, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: fansince61 on September 18, 2006, 03:31:43 PM
Just now, Eskin WIP..Kearse has torn 3 of 4 major ligaments in his knee. All except ACL. Gone for the year. IMO the only good news is ACL tears are the most career ending and the hardest to come back from :P
Didn't he give some bogus TO breaking news on his ankle back in 2004? Stop listening to him. Trust the actual injury status when the team releases it.
Counting Iverson and TO he's not unfamiliar to bogus info. :P
Ah, yes... let's argue the difference between a severe sprain and a tear and which ligaments are effed.
His knee his toast and his season is over. Arguing the difference between Spadaro and Eskin is really worth it!
BTW, Reid did not absolutely rule out Lito for Sunday's game, either. I assume he'll be listed as doubtful and probably won't play, but it is *somewhat* encouraging, I suppose, that he's making that kind of progress.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 18, 2006, 04:41:09 PM
BTW, Reid did not absolutely rule out Lito for Sunday's game, either. I assume he'll be listed as doubtful and probably won't play, but it is *somewhat* encouraging, I suppose, that he's making that kind of progress.
Absolutely...
if we had to, I could actually deal with Lito and Hood being out 'til the Dallas game. It'd be shaky as hell, but that's where we really need them to be on the field.
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 18, 2006, 04:45:15 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 18, 2006, 04:41:09 PM
BTW, Reid did not absolutely rule out Lito for Sunday's game, either. I assume he'll be listed as doubtful and probably won't play, but it is *somewhat* encouraging, I suppose, that he's making that kind of progress.
Absolutely... if we had to, I could actually deal with Lito and Hood being out 'til the Dallas game. It'd be shaky as hell, but that's where we really need them to be on the field.
thats assuming that when we get the lead on san fran we actually still keep going at them and u know play all 4 qrts.
theres no way you partially tear three ligaments..maybe one is torn and two arent or vice versa but there is a full tear somewhere in there...anyway like ff said he done for the year...has anyone else mentioned how the knee moved in a carson palmer like fashion...
kearse is done....perhaps for good
Good thing they picked up Howard.
yeah now juqua thomas wont have to put up with all those double teams
And Killa Cole will be singled up to kick all the OT's he wants.
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We are very lucky we have 2 guys in Thomas and Cole. Cole was our DE of the future, so his time just comes a little bit early. There is absolutely no reason we should not continue to get loads of pressure on QBs. My worry is that damn secondary. All last season we talked about how the DBs can't hold up for 5 seconds because of no pass rush. This secondary can't hold up for 2 seconds with the way Lewis is playing and with Hood and Lito hurt.
2 games deep. 2 major players are injured, one gone for the year. lets hope it stops here otherwise we could be looking at another shtein year.
Or we could hope everyone around the NFL loses key players to even it out. You figure if all 32 NFL teams lose 2 key players, then everyone is on an even scale. :deion
your brilliant, don't let anyone tell you otherwise
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2593088
QuoteJevon Kearse will miss the rest of the season with a knee injury the star defensive end sustained in Philadelphia's overtime loss to the Giants on Sunday.
Kearse's injury included sprains of multiple ligaments, including the medial collateral ligament, the lateral collateral ligament, and the posterior cruciate ligament.
Any word on who will replace the Freak on the roster?? What free agent DEs are out there??
Jerome McDougle is out there I heard.
Also I heard Hugh Douglas needs a job.
Don't need another DE.
McDougle, Thomas, Cole & Howard are enough. Especially since LaJuan Ramsey can slide out if need be.
They need to sign a CB. My guess is Donald Strickland will be back.
Who did they cut to give Wynn a roster spot? Would that player be brought back? Also, they could sign Strickland to help with the piss poor corner coverage.
Roob says Hood won't be gone long.
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2006, 06:56:23 PM
Who did they cut to give Wynn a roster spot? Would that player be brought back? Also, they could sign Strickland to help with the piss poor corner coverage.
Perry.
No.
Yes.
Good for Hood. Let's keep this defense going. It's sick so far.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 18, 2006, 06:57:38 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on September 18, 2006, 06:56:32 PM
Roob says Hood won't be gone long.
Good news :yay
Spads said on his show today that it looks like Hood will play Sunday.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 18, 2006, 06:57:22 PM
Quote from: MDS on September 18, 2006, 06:56:23 PM
Who did they cut to give Wynn a roster spot? Would that player be brought back? Also, they could sign Strickland to help with the piss poor corner coverage.
Perry.
No.
Yes.
Ah, yea. Forgot it was him. Yea, no way he comes back. Figure with both McDougle and Rayburn on the roster and not even playing (not to mention the depth of having Howard, Cole, Thomas to play), CB help should be the way to go. We need Hood back for the Dallas game. Litoast, too. Even with the zesty corners and injury to Kearse, this team should beat the likes of San Francisco and Green Bay. If not, well, who cares cause then it aint even worth talkin bout things.
What sucks, though, is the Eagles were on pace to have about 104 sacks on the season. Without Kearse, I bet that total drops significantly.
The Eagleas weren't going to get 104 sacks in the season. I don't think that has ever been done. But I still think we get just about as much as if Kearse were here. maybe 5 or so less, but not significantly less. We have a lot of depth and good depth at that.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 18, 2006, 06:55:53 PM
Don't need another DE.
McDougle, Thomas, Cole & Howard are enough. Especially since LaJuan Ramsey can slide out if need be.
They need to sign a CB. My guess is Donald Strickland will be back.
I agree although I hope Hood and Lito are back shortly. I thought Strickland did okay last year but obviously the FO thought more highly of Hanson and Wynn.
dl is in the best shape on the team to lose a player buts lets see how good juqua thomas is when his plays per game go way up...its a lot easier coming in and getting sacks when kearse and howard are workin the OL for you all game...as for mcdougle is anyone really confident that he can come in and be productive
he looked good in camp and pre-season. looked slimed down and in better shape. it's yet to be known what this guys made of yet. hopefully he can stay healthy, he's got a bullseye on him or something.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 19, 2006, 09:11:32 AM
as for mcdougle is anyone really confident that he can come in and be productive
I don't know how anyone can be
confident of that, including McDougle himself.
Quote from: mussa on September 19, 2006, 09:27:17 AM
he's got a bullseye on him or something.
Ha! I laughed.
mcdougle is so promising he couldnt even get activated for two games.....over juqua friggin thomas??
Juqua also had 4 1/2 sacks in the Preseason while McDougle recoverd from rib injuries. Just be thankful this team has depth.
And 2 sacks so far in the regular season.
PFT just as confused as everyone else
QuoteKEARSE REPORTS CONFUSING
Depending on what you read and/or hear, Eagles defensive end Jevon Kearse has multiple knee ligament sprains or tears.
The difference would appear to be significant. But what the hell do we know?
Sprained ligaments usually heal without surgical intervention. Torn ligaments (except for partial tears to the rope-like MCL) usually don't.
We can't recall ever hearing of a guy suffering sprained knee ligaments early in the season and being unable to return to the field. In 1995, Rod Woodson of the Steelers tore an ACL Week One and was back for the Super Bowl.
We're trying to track down more info on this one. Stay tuned
does mcdougal really count as "depth"?
No, but he's a warm body to put on the field while someone else takes a play or two off.
Updates:
Bartrum, Hood, Sheppard, L.J. Smith (did the walk-thru), Westbrook not practicing today.
Bartrum improving.
Westbrook not getting worse, but still a little sore... will be listed as QUESTIONABLE for Sunday.
Hood is DOUBTFUL for Sunday's game.
Sounds like L.J. will probably play.
what about Andrews
Andrews hasn't even been mentioned. I suppose that means he's practicing already.
A media member just asked about Lito (Andy doesn't have an update of note), but no one's mentioned Shawn.
you're useless.
Some people are saying that it's very likely that Westbrook won't play this week. Could be BS , but I hope he plays. We need to rebound with a big-time win.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 21, 2006, 09:54:17 PM
Some people are saying that it's very likely that Westbrook won't play this week. Could be BS , but I hope he plays. We need to rebound with a big-time win.
hmm if he doesnt can we handle a much improved san fran team without westbrook, hood. and lito?
i say yes, but making it much tougher. bring in moats and i guess now is the time to blow out buck's knees and give westbrook a week off.
Tapeh, goddamnit! TAPEH!
Westbrook has the bye week for that. Say this team goes into San Fran and is a little rusty afgter the emotional loss. Without Westbrook that is one less weapon to get us jump started.
It's not really going to matter if we get jumpstarted, as we will all be watching from our couches. Except for Sassy, who will be watching from hbionic's lap.
The power of ONE. We are all part of the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 22, 2006, 12:08:33 AM
The power of ONE. We are all part of the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Please kill yourself you cheeseball freakshow.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 22, 2006, 12:08:33 AM
The power of ONE. We are all part of the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
Holy Lord.
my head is going to explode.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 22, 2006, 12:08:33 AM
The power of ONE. We are all part of the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I know for a fact that you're incapable of irony, but this is incredible. How could you possibly believe this crap, you fool.
B A N
mussa for prez
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 22, 2006, 12:08:33 AM
The power of ONE. We are all part of the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I can die happy now.
Westbrook's practicing today
At DE.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on September 22, 2006, 12:08:33 AM
The power of ONE. We are all part of the Philadelphia Eagles. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
My first reaction to this was that you were making fun of ExtremeSkins. Guess not.
I'll steal Patt's line and say that you all need to send your sarcasm meters in for repair.
You aren't smart enough to be sarcastic.
Excuses excuses
The only thing that makes me part of the Eagles is my $200 large I pay for NFL Sunday Ticket.
Which is to say, no part at all.
Exactly
Well, it'd be 1/32 of $200, I suppose. The same amount they get from me. :paranoid
Back on topic, was my imagination, or did the pressure get to be a lot less when the Phreak went down?
Quote from: shorebird on September 22, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
Back on topic, was my imagination, or did the pressure get to be a lot less when the Phreak went down?
Boooooorrriiing!
I know, I need to go to bed.
Quote from: shorebird on September 22, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
Back on topic, was my imagination, or did the pressure get to be a lot less when the Phreak went down?
There definitely wasn't much on that last Giants drive. It's probably too small of a sample to prove a causal factor to Kearse's injury.
Sunday will be a much better indicator as to how much missing Kearse will affect the pass rush.
I'm certainly not reading through 35+ pages of the game day thread but what in the hell happened to Stallworth and is he expected to play next week?
Chad Johns... er, Reggie Brown had a nice game and should have a nice one again against Green Bay if he has to step in as the #1 but seriously Hank Baskett is awful and Green Bay is capable of putting up points in spurts. They need their offense to take full advantage of that horrendous Green Bay defense.
He got shot in an attempted carjacking. He'll be alright for next week.
"Fatal cranial aneurysm, listed as probable"?
Cheggie Brownson did have a nice game. Although those back to back drops in the 4th were inexcusable.
Stallworth will play on Monday. They said that they kept him out because they couldn't get the hammy to loosen up. I am glad they kept him out. No need to risk it.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 25, 2006, 04:28:58 AM
I am glad they kept him out. No need to risk it.
Do I have to say it? Really? Do I?
OK, I will. The team decides not to play its best receiver the week after a crushing defeat in a game where a victory, though not a terribly difficult accomplishment in theory, is absolutely necessary. But like clockwork Phreak thinks it was a good idea and is happy that they did it.
If he's injured and can't play, fine. But just holding him out as a precaution in a game that absolutely positively HAD to be won is awful.
I'll gladly explain why I think that. And then you can, as you like to say, get off the nuts...
On Friday it didn't seem to be an issue. Just a spasm, right? So you have a guy who historically has a troublesome hamstring and when he gets out to warm-up he cannot get it loosened up.
Before I go on let's think back to how badly a lingering hamstring can affect a player who relies on speed and explosiveness...Terrell Owens and Steve Smith to name a couple.
So you have a guy who has had hammy issues in the past who doesn't feel right. Let's say they put him in there and he really strains it or even tears it ala David Akers in 2005. Then what?
Then Andy Reid is going to be crucified. And rightfully so.
The bottom line is this - if they couldn't have beaten the 49ers without Stallworth then there's trouble for the rest of the season. The NIners are improved but they had more than enough weapons to beat that team. And they did. So risking Stallworth's health for this game would've been stupid.
And if he can't go against the Packers I say the same thing - sit him.
In hind sight its easy to say that they didn't risk much by sitting him against the Niners, and if he's hurt, he's hurt, but if that's the case commenting on whether or not you are 'glad' they kept him out becomes ridiculous.
That's all.
Oh, and yeah, if they can't beat the Packers without Stallworth they deserve to be dragged into the street and beaten to death.
The only thing that worries me about the GB game is that Donald Driver is good and so is Greg Jennings. I wonder if eric Allen can still play...
But they should kill Favre. His OL is terrible.
As for Stallworth - I was glad they sat him. LIke I said - after seeing how nagging those things can become its better to not risk it so early in the year.
Green Bay is capable of putting up points in spurts
against detroit
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2006, 08:17:02 AM
Green Bay is capable of putting up points in spurts
against detroit
True, Detroit isn't exactly a defensive juggernaut, but Favre can still chuck the ball down the field and although there is a vitriolic hatred of him on this board he is still capable of getting the ball down field and into the endzone. He's also capable of turning it over 4 times but no matter how you slice it he can't just be over-looked.
Quote from: rjs246 on September 25, 2006, 08:20:00 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2006, 08:17:02 AM
Green Bay is capable of putting up points in spurts
against detroit
True, Detroit isn't exactly a defensive juggernaut, but Favre can still chuck the ball down the field and although there is a vitriolic hatred of him on this board he is still capable of getting the ball down field and into the endzone. He's also capable of turning it over 4 times but no matter how you slice it he can't just be over-looked.
Agreed, the Eagles secondary has looked less than stellar the last two weeks and it wouldn't be a suprise if Favre gives them some headaches.
No game is a gimme right now considering the state of the secondary.
green bay is...they will score about a thousand points against them
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2006, 10:20:26 AM
green bay is...they will score about a thousand points against them
They might give up a thousand and one.
not with farve throwing 999 interceptions while trying to keep up
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2006, 10:22:33 AM
not with farve throwing 999 interceptions while trying to keep up
Who is going to make an interception? Mike Lewis?
Don't make me laugh.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 25, 2006, 10:15:02 AM
No game is a gimme right now considering the state of the secondary.
The Niners game was. You just didn't want to see it. So is the GB game.
Who is going to make an interception?
dustin fox
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2006, 10:30:04 AM
Who is going to make an interception?
dustin fox
Hall. Of. Fame.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2006, 10:30:04 AM
Who is going to make an interception?
dustin fox
In street clothes on the sideline? Interesting.
if we paint Fox black, he'll turn all-pro
no....hed be damon moore
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 25, 2006, 11:51:18 AM
no....hed be damon moore
They even both went to Ohio State. Well done.
Reggie Brown - quad spasm, should be OK
Considine - mild strain/hip flexor, DTD
Dawk - concussion, should be OK
Hood - heel strain (still)
Smith - AC sprain
Stallworth - hamstring spasm, getting better
W/T Thomas - foot strain, a little sore
Sheppard - should practice this week
Westbrook - feels "pretty good"
Mahe - same as Westbrook
......
in WIP Steve M. is questioning why Spadaro gets to ask questions at the PC, something I've been saying for years.
"Andy, why are you so awesome?"
"I don't know, I'll have to look at the tape and let you know."
Quote from: SunMo on September 25, 2006, 12:15:54 PM
in WIP Steve M. is questioning why Spadaro gets to ask questions at the PC, something I've been saying for years.
"Andy, why are you so awesome?"
"I don't know, I'll have to look at the tape and let you know."
I think all the teams have their own "guys" in the press conference after each game. Yes, its annoying, but the Eagles aren't the only ones doing it.
Every team might have their shills, but only the Eagles have a dreamweaver.
Nothing on McCoy's stinger?
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 25, 2006, 07:44:18 PM
Nothing on McCoy's stinger?
Someone mentioned it later in the PC. Reid said the pain might bother him for the next few weeks, but he will continue to practice and play.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 25, 2006, 08:14:20 PM
Quote from: MadMarchHare on September 25, 2006, 07:44:18 PM
Nothing on McCoy's stinger?
Someone mentioned it later in the PC. Reid said the pain might bother him for the next few weeks, but he will continue to practice and play.
McCoy > Gocong
Gocong > the non-black LB they draft in the first 3 rounds next year
Black linebackers suck. Can't read a book, what makes you think they can read an offense?
"Cheggie Brownson"
That made me laugh out loud.
Quote from: methdeez on September 26, 2006, 01:28:07 AM
"Cheggie Brownson"
That made me laugh out loud.
u could have just said "LOL".
Simps.
DID NOT PRACTICE TODAY:
Dawkins (recovering from concussion, still likely to play Monday night)
Hood (heel)
Lito (ankle)
Stallworth (hammy)
Westbrook (knee swelling)
Pretty hefty injury report this week:
QuoteSheppard was not the only player listed as doubtful Wednesday. Sheppard's position mate Rod Hood was also listed as doubtful with a heel injury. Despite not practicing all of last week, Hood started against the 49ers.
Running back Brian Westbrook was listed as questionable with his knee inflammation. It is unknown at this time if he will practice on Thursday. Westbrook only practiced last Friday and racked up 117 rushing yards and three total touchdowns against the 49ers. Dawkins, who suffered a concussion, was also listed as questionable even though all signs point to him playing Sunday. Wide receiver Donté Stallworth, who missed Sunday's win with hamstring spasms, was listed as questionable.
Listed as probable on the injury report were: guard Shawn Andrews (shoulder), wide receiver Reggie Brown (shoulder, quad), safety Sean Considine (hip flexor), defensive end Darren Howard (knee), strong safety Michael Lewis (quad), running back/punt returner Reno Mahe (ankle), linebacker Matt McCoy (stinger), tight end L.J. Smith (shoulder), tackle William Thomas (foot) and defensive tackle Darwin Walker (quad).
I didn't see Kearse on there.... ???
It's nice that almost the entire starting secondary has some type of injury, and even two of the backups. :yay
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 28, 2006, 12:38:59 PM
I didn't see Kearse on there.... ???
They don't bother putting a guy on a report after he's on IR.
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 28, 2006, 12:41:56 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on September 28, 2006, 12:38:59 PM
I didn't see Kearse on there.... ???
They don't bother putting a guy on a report after he's on IR.
It was joke. Does anyone know what is wrong with Walker's quad? I must know...
You're asking me for the status of Darwin Walker?
the status of Darwin Walker?
still mulatto
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 28, 2006, 01:01:07 PM
the status of Darwin Walker?
still mulatto
!!
(http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Homepage/franken2.jpg)
here's to getting pressure on Favre :evil
otherwise our secondary is toast
Quote from Harbaugh: On what Injured Reserve players like LB Chris Gocong and WR Jeremy Bloom can do during the season: "Yeah, those guys are still full-time employees. They're still getting paid and they're still working really hard at it. I know Jeremy Bloom, part of his rehab with [head athletic trainer] Rick Burkholder is he catches punts with [assistant equipment manager] Greg Delimitros. Every single day he catches over 100 punts. And he does a lot of the wide receiver route running stuff. And I know Chris Gocong is doing the same thing at his position. Plus, they are in meetings, where they can be, where they are allowed to be. They are studying football, they are studying tape. They are great kids. They take it seriously. They want to get back sooner than anybody. They'll be in minicamp ready to go."
Gocong and Bloom are on the IR strictly to do what they are doing, which is taking a year to learn how to play in the nfl. They could both be playing right now. The shell game they play with players and injuries is funny.
They can't practice with the rest of the team, though, right?
I know there are some rules there.
That's how I understand it.
They can't practice with the team and go to meetings where they're gameplanning or preparing for a certain team, but they can work on their own with trainers and staff and participate in their positional meetings.
so they are getting paid to practice?
It reads like they're getting paid to lift weights and run around in shorts. Must be nice.
I didn't see it posted anywhere and you guys probably already know but Stallworth, Westbrook and Lito practiced today. Dawkins as well in a limited role which they said was just "precautionary".
I heard that Dawkins was salivating about getting a hold of Favre on Monday night.
Then again, that could still be from the knock on the head... :paranoid
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 30, 2006, 09:05:33 PM
I didn't see it posted anywhere and you guys probably already know but Stallworth, Westbrook and Lito practiced today. Dawkins as well in a limited role which they said was just "precautionary".
I wasn't aware that Lito practiced today. I doubt he'll play this week but it's good to hear he's back out there.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 30, 2006, 09:16:44 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on September 30, 2006, 09:05:33 PM
I didn't see it posted anywhere and you guys probably already know but Stallworth, Westbrook and Lito practiced today. Dawkins as well in a limited role which they said was just "precautionary".
I wasn't aware that Lito practiced today. I doubt he'll play this week but it's good to hear he's back out there.
Well, JJ was quoted as saying that if Lito practiced Saturday (today), he would expect Lito to play... I'm sure it's still to be decided but we'll see.
The original reports said he'd be out 4-6 weeks. If he returns on Monday, that would only be 3 (math skillz). I think I'd actually prefer to see him sit one more week and get some extra practic/rehab time on it and hopefully be completely healthy for Dallas.
Good news. If he's ready to go they need him out there now. Especially since Hood won't likely play.
Driver and Jennings are legit. If Wynn or Hanson or Fox see time against those guys it could be bad.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2006, 02:34:06 AM
Good news. If he's ready to go they need him out there now. Especially since Hood won't likely play.
Driver and Jennings are legit. If Wynn or Hanson or Fox see time against those guys it could be bad.
I say rest 'em. Hate to see them have it linger all season. We can beat Green bay without them easy.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 01, 2006, 02:34:06 AM
Good news. If he's ready to go they need him out there now. Especially since Hood won't likely play.
Driver and Jennings are legit. If Wynn or Hanson or Fox see time against those guys it could be bad.
That is only if Favre has more than .0032 seconds to throw.
I wish you'd show up on the injury report.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 01, 2006, 07:43:50 PM
I wish you'd show up on the injury report.
Obituaries would be much better.
Baby steps, D. Baby steps.
I'm day to day with the byrd fever. Too many byrds is chirpin.
Brian Westbrook isn't playing. :paranoid
Who say?
Suzy Kolber. They're talking about it on Monday Night Countdown too.
farg. You can see I'm not watching any of that crap. farg.
Neither is Ahman Green, so it should be quite the aerial show tonight.
It is a shame this dude can never stay healthy, I sure and the hell hope he is ready for Sunday or it will be a long day. They are lucky they are playing GB tonight instead of a real quality oponent. GB is also missing Green tonight.
I think Reid knows we should destroy this team without Westbrook, let alone with. Give him a rest, let his swelling go down.
He looked fine when they showed him walking around and such.... ???
Meh. Now we get to see exactly where Correll Buckhalter is.
I should add that that this also (hopefully) means more time for Moats.
Of course, he'll run all over the packers, and then procede to suck for the rest of the year and fumble 5 or 6 times. :paranoid
Buck/Moats should do just fine as long as Bucks knees don't explode and Moats holds onto the ball.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 02, 2006, 07:16:27 PM
Buck/Moats should do just fine as long as Bucks knees don't explode and Moats holds onto the ball.
So there's about a 20% chance of them being fine.
I think that's possibly why Reid is holding Westy out. Why risk having the knee swell more when you should win without him?
I mean it obviously hasn't been serious enough to hold him out of the last few games, and all the news on it so far has been that it's getting better/staying the same. Unless the cooler weather somehow had some dramatic effect on the swelling, I don't see why he's all of a sudden too hurt to play a game.
Meh. Start beating the injury prone drums again. :=)
I'm glad we get to see more Moats. As long as Reid plays him over Mahe. And we'll have a healthy Westbrook for Dallas. :evil
Quote from: Munson on October 02, 2006, 07:20:06 PM
And we'll have a healthy Westbrook for Dallas. :evil
I always try to look for the silver lining in every situation and I guess that's it.
Lito and Hood out too according to Sal Pal. No surprise about that.
farg, Sheppard and Hood are OUT as well. Hope our pass rush is feeling up to snuff.
I have a bad feeling about this game.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 02, 2006, 07:16:27 PM
Buck/Moats should do just fine as long as Bucks knees don't explode and Moats holds onto the ball.
Great, then we're doomed.
I have a bad feeling about every game before it starts.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 02, 2006, 07:26:19 PM
I have a bad feeling about every game before it starts.
You and me both.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 02, 2006, 07:23:03 PM
Lito and Hood out too according to Sal Pal. No surprise about that.
farg. That's not good. That bothers me more than Westbrook being out. Wynn and Hanson in coverage all night? Ugh.
Excellent news. At least about Hood and Lito anyway. We need them healthy for next week. We shouldn't have a problem tonight even without those 3.
Shame about Westbrook, but if he can't play he can't play.
Westbrook
Hood
Sheppard
Kearse
Is Stallworth playing?
Yes Stallworth is.
Quote from: Diomedes on October 02, 2006, 07:26:19 PM
I have a bad feeling about every game before it starts.
I usually don't. But having those three players out and knowing who the backups are... yeah not feeling good about this game right now. I still think they'll win, but I think it'll be a very uncomfortable game tonight.
Championship teams battle through injuries. We'll see what the Eagles are made of tonight. You gotta win with who you got.
our first 15 plays should be runs. moats, buck, moats, buck, buck, mcnabb, mahe, tapeh, moats, moats, buck, moats, mcnabb, moats, and stallworth on a reverse!
So. The prediction is now what, 56-49 Eagles?
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 02, 2006, 07:30:18 PMChampionship teams battle through injuries. We'll see what the Eagles are made of tonight. You gotta win with who you got.
Thanks Joe Theismann for that incisive commentary.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 02, 2006, 07:30:18 PM
Championship teams battle through injuries. We'll see what the Eagles are made of tonight. You gotta win with who you got.
Why haven't you been banned yet?
Quote from: SD_Eagle on October 02, 2006, 07:28:31 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on October 02, 2006, 07:26:19 PM
I have a bad feeling about every game before it starts.
You and me both.
Add me to that list, I am already predicting impending doom for the Birds on Sunday.
tonight we win the championship!
Quote from: Diomedes on October 02, 2006, 07:26:19 PM
I have a bad feeling about every game before it starts.
Yeah, me too. I just have a worse feeling than usual.
DGunn says he's heard from sources that Lito will start on Sunday.
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 03, 2006, 12:22:48 AM
DGunn says he's heard from sources that Lito will start on Sunday.
then again he was supposed to start last night.
hopefully they just held him out realizing how bad the favres are.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 03, 2006, 05:59:57 AMthen again he was supposed to start last night.
As was Westbrook. I'll believe who's starting and who's not about an hour before the game and not sooner.
This team needs all hands on deck to tromp Dallas. Lito, Hood, Westbrook, Stallworth - they all better get healthy quick.
so by the end of the game last night, we were missing our starting RB, both starting WRs, and a starting CB plus his backup. not including our DE out for the year. thats nice.
Reggie is fine...will practice tomorrow.
Stallworth had an MRI and won't practice tomorrow. Day-to-day thing.
Hood won't practice tomorrow either.
Westbrook is doing better, but Reid may hold him out of practice.
Everyone else will practice, including Lito.
I have a feeling that Dante's injury is going to be one that he is dealing with all season. They really need Hood to get healthy because the defense is going to need their best dbs for sunday.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2006, 12:07:32 PM
Reggie is fine...will practice tomorrow.
He get a stinger or something? It looked like he popped his shoulder out or something the way he was acting coming off the field.
Supposedly a shoulder sprain.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 03, 2006, 12:31:38 PM
Stallworth had an MRI and won't practice tomorrow. Day-to-day thing.
Hood won't practice tomorrow either.
Westbrook is doing better, but Reid may hold him out of practice.
Everyone else will practice, including Lito.
Stallworth has a bruised ego after dropping 4 passes in the first half.
Where has he been in the last two weeks?
he didn't play last week. ::)
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2006, 01:39:35 PM
he didn't play last week. ::)
Exactly! He had no catches and didn't even bother putting his pads on!
He doesn't want it enough.
I'm glad the rolly eyes smilie hasn't been totally played out.
Quote from: methdeez on October 03, 2006, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2006, 01:39:35 PM
he didn't play last week. ::)
Exactly! He had no catches and didn't even bother putting his pads on!
He doesn't want it enough.
Did you watch the game one of the first big plays was to him. He had only one drop, it was Reggie that had 4. I also guess you didn't see how Stallworth drew two penalties, just as good as receptions.
It's weird that Al Harris and his protege Ahmad Carroll were quite grabby last night. That's out of character.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on October 03, 2006, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: methdeez on October 03, 2006, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2006, 01:39:35 PM
he didn't play last week. ::)
Exactly! He had no catches and didn't even bother putting his pads on!
He doesn't want it enough.
Did you watch the game one of the first big plays was to him. He had only one drop, it was Reggie that had 4. I also guess you didn't see how Stallworth drew two penalties, just as good as receptions.
Facts are for liberals, lady.
I know what my drunken impresssions were, and that's enough.
Methdeez: 1
Sober Hippies: 0
Quote from: hunt on October 03, 2006, 12:14:40 PM
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 03, 2006, 12:07:32 PM
Reggie is fine...will practice tomorrow.
great news!
Yes it's good to hear he'll be dropping ppasses as early as Wednesday this week.
QuoteEagles | Westbrook might need arthroscopic surgery
Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:22:51 -0700
Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports Philadelphia Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (knee) might need arthroscopic surgery on his knee if rest does not resolve his recurring problems. Westbrook would miss two to six weeks if he had the surgery, but he would then be fine and not have to worry about how his knee is on a week-to-week basis. The team has recently acknowledged Westbrook has a bone bruise, which usually means there is damage to the articular cartilage. Westbrook's agent, Fletcher Smith, said he and the team have not yet discusses Westbrook's options.
yikesy
That's worrisome but speculative. 4 games left till the bye week....
Tough call. With a lot of our divisional games after the bye, if getting the surgery done means he'll be viable for those games, then I say do it. Try and drain it this week and get him ready for the Cowboys, but if it persists it's better to get it done now than wait and risk aggravating it.
I think you keep him up until the JAX game, and if he really does need it, do it then. I think we'll need him to beat JAX.
Quote from: SunMo on October 03, 2006, 10:51:23 PM
QuoteEagles | Westbrook might need arthroscopic surgery
Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:22:51 -0700
Les Bowen, of the Philadelphia Daily News, reports Philadelphia Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (knee) might need arthroscopic surgery on his knee if rest does not resolve his recurring problems. Westbrook would miss two to six weeks if he had the surgery, but he would then be fine and not have to worry about how his knee is on a week-to-week basis. The team has recently acknowledged Westbrook has a bone bruise, which usually means there is damage to the articular cartilage. Westbrook's agent, Fletcher Smith, said he and the team have not yet discusses Westbrook's options.
yikesy
He brought that up on Daily News Live and it it purely speculation. He said that might be a possibility if the knee doesn't get better.
In that case, farg it. If he wants, he can get it at the end of the season. If the knee is just sore, he's played through it before and he can play through it again.
Friggin Les Bowen... :fire
Apparently Eskin said that Stallworth is out 2 weeks too.
This is after Reid said he was day to day.
That's super.
The offense will be fine without both Stallworth and Westbrook.
What I mean to say is that they'll be fine at losing spectacularly.
so whats the latest on stallworth, brown, westbrook, lito, and hood?
Dead. They're all dead.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on October 08, 2006, 02:39:16 AM
so whats the latest on stallworth, brown, westbrook, lito, and hood?
No
Yes
Maybe
Yes
No
NBC 10 is suggesting they sit Westbrook
http://www.nbc10.com/sports/10024098/detail.html
Little known fact the author of the NBC 10 article still has his Dallas footie PJs from the 70s
gimpy ot slightly maimed, we need westbrook today.
Czarnecki on FOX (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6039982)
QuoteThere is a good chance that Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (left knee) will try to play, although he apparently will need microfracture surgery, similar to what Carolina's DeShaun Foster underwent, once the season is over.
Hmmm....
Why do I get the feeling that I'll be seeing Brian Westbrook leaving the field on a stretcher or cart before this season is over? :-\
Spads said on FOX29 that a decision will be made about 1430hrs.
He'll come out at 1400hrs to run and warm up and then a decision will be made based on that.
Quote from: QB Eagles on October 08, 2006, 11:46:45 AM
Why do I get the feeling that I'll be seeing Brian Westbrook leaving the field on a stretcher or cart before this season is over? :-\
Because it happens every season?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 11:44:16 AM
Czarnecki on FOX (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6039982)
QuoteThere is a good chance that Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (left knee) will try to play, although he apparently will need microfracture surgery, similar to what Carolina's DeShaun Foster underwent, once the season is over.
Hmmm....
he hasn't even had a scope.
don't you think the local media would be ALL over this if it were true?
why dont they get it done after todays game. moats cant be any worse than buck, and i say we ride him till westbrook comes back.
they probably wouldn't do a scope until the bye week.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 11:44:16 AM
Czarnecki on FOX (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6039982)
QuoteThere is a good chance that Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (left knee) will try to play, although he apparently will need microfracture surgery, similar to what Carolina's DeShaun Foster underwent, once the season is over.
Hmmm....
I thought Stephen Davis, not Foster had the microfracture surgery.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on October 08, 2006, 12:09:01 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 11:44:16 AM
Czarnecki on FOX (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6039982)
QuoteThere is a good chance that Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (left knee) will try to play, although he apparently will need microfracture surgery, similar to what Carolina's DeShaun Foster underwent, once the season is over.
Hmmm....
he hasn't even had a scope.
don't you think the local media would be ALL over this if it were true?
Yep & yep.
I find it hard how they can know this. I'll wait until somone other than "the Czar" reports it to get too worried.
Quote from: bobbyinlondon on October 08, 2006, 12:40:08 PM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 11:44:16 AM
Czarnecki on FOX (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6039982)
QuoteThere is a good chance that Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (left knee) will try to play, although he apparently will need microfracture surgery, similar to what Carolina's DeShaun Foster underwent, once the season is over.
Hmmm....
I thought Stephen Davis, not Foster had the microfracture surgery.
Foster had microfracture surgery back in 2003. That's why the Panthers got Davis in the first place. Davis has had the surgery as well.
Supposedly Stallworth's gonna give it a try today and play in a limited role. (Yahoo Sports Fantasy Webcast is reporting it)
From now on, as soon as Stallworth and Westbrook enter the locker room after the game the Eagles need to bubblewrap them up and not take it off until next Sunday. Jesus.
if westbrook plays we might be ok without stallworth. let him rest for the saints next week.
KFFL is reporting that Westbrook is active for the game.
Quote from: Munson on October 08, 2006, 03:20:28 PM
KFFL is reporting that Westbrook is active for the game.
As is the Eagles web site
So then.....is he active?
Anyone who thought he wasn't going to play this game because of a bone bruise...well....I feel bad for you.
If he really needs the scope, then he can hold off until 15 minutes after the game against JAX is over.
Young replaced Herremans but they never said why
I wonder if RJS's head exploded when Young went in?
"Brain matter cleanup in section 220 please"
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 08, 2006, 06:05:57 PM
Young replaced Herremans but they never said why
Herremans limped off but didnt seem to be in a ton of pain, he was back on at the end of the 2nd quarter.
DGunn reporting that he's hearing 9totally unconfirmed yet)
That Westbrook will have the knee scoped on Tuesday and sit out until after the BYE WEEK.
I can dig that.
Injuries:
Mahe tweaked his ankle - should be OK
McCoy - hip ponter
Barber - hip pointer
That's it.
That's 4 weeks (NO, TB, JAX, bye)
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 08, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
That's 4 weeks (NO, TB, JAX, bye)
i was thinking the same thing....d gunn said he'd miss 2 games, then the bye.
anyway, they'll miss westbrook in that jags game.
TB sucks, we can win without Westbrook. Figure win 1 of Jax/NO, thats 6-2 going into the bye with Westbrook coming back healthy. I like.
I'm gonna go ahead and say 1-2 for that stretch without Westbrook.
Quote from: hunt on October 08, 2006, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 08, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
That's 4 weeks (NO, TB, JAX, bye)
i was thinking the same thing....d gunn said he'd miss 2 games, then the bye.
anyway, they'll miss westbrook in that jags game.
Yeah _- I didn't catch that. He said 2 games they thik he'd miss. Maybe he, like me got the bye mixed up
i'll go with 2-1.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 07:54:29 PM
Quote from: hunt on October 08, 2006, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on October 08, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
That's 4 weeks (NO, TB, JAX, bye)
i was thinking the same thing....d gunn said he'd miss 2 games, then the bye.
anyway, they'll miss westbrook in that jags game.
Yeah _- I didn't catch that. He said 2 games they thik he'd miss. Maybe he, like me got the bye mixed up
Or nobody is counting TB as an actual game.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 11:44:16 AM
Czarnecki on FOX (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6039982)
QuoteThere is a good chance that Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (left knee) will try to play, although he apparently will need microfracture surgery, similar to what Carolina's DeShaun Foster underwent, once the season is over.
Hmmm....
Andy says no. No way.
I don't know how I feel about that scope. If it is totally needed then ok, but I don't want to lose Westbrook and go into the bye 4-4. The Bucs have a solid defense, and so do the Jags, and the Saints haven't lost at home yet.
Bruce Gradkowski doesn't count.
Actually I'm scared 'bout these 3. Next week is the let down game, Jacksonville is the going into the bye game we never win. Let's hope the parade of drunken Eagles fans down the lake in Bourbon Street can help.
the bucs will be 0-5 going into that game...i think the eagles can pull that one out.
Westbrook was asked about the microfracture rumor...
"Who told you that?"
.
.
"The only people that know what's going on are me and the group of doctors, so you gotta question the source..."
Says there's no truth and he'll see what happens when the swelling goes down a bit. Said he feels fine...
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 08, 2006, 07:50:39 PM
DGunn reporting that he's hearing 9totally unconfirmed yet)
That Westbrook will have the knee scoped on Tuesday and sit out until after the BYE WEEK.
I can dig that.
Best time to do it. We will need him healthy in the second half of the season.
Eskin reporting there's no scope scheduled and that it's a day to day thing, also said he was having some problems with his ankle from not practicing. Westbrook confirmed the same thing during the post game report. Also said the swellings gone down a great deal.
With the way Westbrook and Andy have talked, it sounds like the knee is getting better. Everyone in the media seems to say it's getting worse.
I'll trust the guy who's body the knee is attached too.
QuoteWestbrook: Surgery not in the picture
By LES BOWEN
bowenl@phillynews.com
His performance wasn't all that reassuring, but his words afterward seemed to be.
Brian Westbrook gained just 33 yards on 11 carries, scoring one touchdown, in the Eagles' 38-24 victory over the Dallas Cowboys yesterday. He caught five passes for 53 yards, but wasn't often flanked wide and seemed nothing more than a screen-and-dumpoff outlet for Donovan McNabb. This came after Westbrook missed last Monday's game against Green Bay and did not practice all week with a swollen knee.
He was listed as "questionable," but made it into the lineup, after appearing on the field a little more than an hour before game time in sweat clothes and headphones. Westbrook stretched but did no running before heading back up the tunnel to the locker room.
The Eagles and Westbrook have said he is suffering from a bone bruise, a problem that often results in swelling because articular cartilage flakes off and causes irritation. Last week, two sports orthopedists told the Daily News that if rest didn't resolve the swelling, arthrosopic surgery could be in the offing. Yesterday, Fox's John Czarnecki upped the ante by reporting that the Eagles were concerned Westbrook might need microfracture surgery after the season. Microfracture surgery is an extremely serious procedure that has had mixed results with NFL players - some, such as Carolina running back DeShaun Foster, have come back and played well afterward. Others, such as former Eagles safety Rashard Cook, have never returned.
In any event, Westbrook said yesterday that no surgery - arthroscopic, microfracture or otherwise - is on the horizon.
"Really, the only people that know what's going on are me and some of the doctors I've seen," said Westbrook, who has practiced rarely since the second week of the season. "Any report from anybody outside of that circle, you've got to question the source."
Westbrook then specifically denied that microfracture surgery or surgery in general has been discussed. Eagles coach Andy Reid also denied that microfracture surgery might be necessary.
Westbrook said his knee hadn't swollen up by the time he met with reporters after the game, "so it feels pretty good." He said his limited role had more to do with his lack of practice work lately, which he said was also a factor in the fumble he lost on the Eagles' first drive.
"This was... the first time I actually ran on it in 2 weeks," Westbrook said. "So coach tried to spot me a little bit, and we have running backs in our stable that can run the ball and make plays."
Correll Buckhalter ran four times for 16 yards, Ryan Moats once for 2 yards. Neither Moats nor Buckhalter caught a pass.
Westbrook was asked about preparing for games when he can't practice.
"I watch film, watch tape, get with the coaches, things like that," he said. "It's tough to stay completely sharp, and I think that's what it really came down to with the fumble. I haven't had any contact in 2 weeks. It was a lack of ball security as well as being a little rusty... hopefully, I'll be able to practice this week."
Westbrook said the "swelling has been down the last couple of days," and he hopes he can return to a more normal preparation regimen.
Reid said Westbrook was able to demonstrate Saturday that he had enough mobility to play, so Reid "felt comfortable to where we didn't have to bring him out before the game and work on it."
Dallas was the best defense the Eagles have played, and Westbrook's stats were way below what he accomplished in his previous three games. He came into yesterday averaging a league-best 7.1 yards per touch, but was well under that against the Cowboys, at 5.37 yards per touch.
anyone know the status of McNabb's fragile psyche?
bitchmade as always. :-D
Can only go by what Andy Reid said at his press conference today " Brian Westbrook it worked out ok for him during the game". Don't know where all these other sooth sayers are geting their reports from. But they seem to be wrong.
Westbrook was on Monday Night Live on Comcast with Barkann and said that his knee did not swell up since yesterday and feels fine.
Good.
Quote from: Wingspan on October 09, 2006, 11:56:43 AM
anyone know the status of McNabb's fragile psyche?
he didnt look mentally tough in the post game interviews.
reggie bush is going to kill us.
Reid Injury Update Today;
Hood - listed as doubtful with his heel strain
Stallworth - doubtful with the hamstring
Westbrook - participated in the walk through practice
That is all he had to update.
I'm sure Stallworth would love to be on the field this week against his old team but if there's any doubt at all about his hammy then I want to see him sit this one out, come back for Tampa to get back in rhythm with the offense to get ready for Jax.
did reid give injury updates at the begining of his post game press conference like he normally does ???
I didn't catch it.
But I did hear Hugh on the radio saying that apparently Andy was really, really pissed at Mike Lewis and Ryan Moats and didn't try to hide his contempt at all.
Mike Lewis almost cost the Eagles against the Cowboys. Something has to be done because he is a glaring liability in pass coverage.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 15, 2006, 05:17:11 PM
I didn't catch it.
But I did hear Hugh on the radio saying that apparently Andy was really, really pissed at Mike Lewis and Ryan Moats and didn't try to hide his contempt at all.
He damn well better be. Those two nits farged up this whole game for the team. Moats gaffe was recoverable, but Lewis sunk the team completely.
Reid punked Les Bowen from the Daily News.
He said Andrews had a neck stinger and McCoy hip pointer and couldn't return. Didn't mention anyone else.
How'd he punk Les?
Andy was talking and stopped for a second and said "Got a problem Les?" and Les said something like sorry I couldn't hear you. So andy moved the microphone closer and said "If you want to ask a question asked a question."
at least he's a good sport when he loses
From Reid:
QuoteMike Lewis is suffering from 3rd degree burns and is likely out for the year.
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2006, 06:25:32 PM
at least he's a good sport when he loses
I don't want a coach that's a good sport about losing.
i don't want a little bitch who takes his self-anger out on reporters
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2006, 07:13:03 PM
i don't want a little bitch who takes his self-anger out on reporters
and you care about the reporters, why?
Quote from: SunMo on October 15, 2006, 07:13:03 PM
i don't want a little bitch who takes his self-anger out on reporters
Les Bowen is an icehole. Don't defend that piece of shtein.
Sounds like Andy Reid was truly pissed off. When was the last time that happened?
Quote from: Geowhizzer on October 15, 2006, 09:20:09 PM
Sounds like Andy Reid was truly pissed off. When was the last time that happened?
Don't know, but good for him.
Its about farging time he showed some emotion.
Les Bowen is one of the better writers in this town. Les is the man.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on October 15, 2006, 06:28:53 PM
From Reid:
QuoteMike Lewis is suffering from 3rd degree burns and is likely out for the year.
anything short of death is unacceptable.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on October 15, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
Les Bowen is one of the better writers in this town. Les is the man.
you get dumber by the post.
Les Bowen is a hockey writer, he blows writing football.
He's awesomez righting footballz.
QuoteEagles | Westbrook misses practice Friday
Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:59:38 -0700
Philadelphia Eagles RB Brian Westbrook (knee) did not practice Friday, Oct. 20, and is questionable for Week 7.
Eagles | Stallworth misses practice Friday
Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:57:21 -0700
Philadelphia Eagles WR Donte' Stallworth (hamstring) did not practice Friday, Oct. 20, and is questionable for Week 7.
Eagles | Howard misses practice Friday
Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:55:14 -0700
Philadelphia Eagles DE Darren Howard (groin) did not practice Friday, Oct. 20, and is questionable for Week 7.
Eagles | Hood practices Friday
Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:47:37 -0700
Philadelphia Eagles CB Roderick Hood (heel) practiced Friday, Oct. 20, and remains doubtful for Week 7.
Philadelphia Eagles WR Donte' Stallworth (hamstring) did not practice Friday, Oct. 20, and is questionable for Week 7.
WIP is reporting that stallworth and westbrook both practiced...tho westbrook has been downgraded to questionable
and andy said howard sat out for precautionary measures and that hes not worried about him
yeah, KFFL amended their statement about Westbrook...but nothing different on Stallworth
I got this from my sports book:
Roderick Hood CB Doubtful Week 7 (Heel)
Tra Thomas T Questionable Week 7 (Back)
Darren Howard DE Questionable Week 7 (Groin)
Donte' Stallworth WR Questionable Week 7 (Hamstring)
Shawn Barber LB Probable Week 7 (Neck)
Shawn Andrews G Probable Week 7 (Neck)
Reggie Brown WR Probable Week 7 (Quadricep)
Sean Considine S Probable Week 7 (Shoulder)
Brian Dawkins S Probable Week 7 (Wrist)
Todd Herremans G Probable Week 7 (Knee)
Reno Mahe RB Probable Week 7 (Ankle)
Matt McCoy LB Probable Week 7 (Hip)
Lito Sheppard CB Probable Week 7 (Hand)
L.J. Smith TE Probable Week 7 (Shoulder)
Brian Westbrook RB Probable Week 7 (Knee)
WIP is reporting that stallworth and westbrook both practiced...tho westbrook has been downgraded to questionable
It probably comes down to what you consider practice. A day or so ago, I saw video of Stallworth running around and catching some passes. But the official word was that he was testing things out, and not "practicing."
i feel you but today they specifically said he participated in his first full practice since sept
he still shouldn't play.
thats a long friggin list :boom
probables dont even count
The NFL is anal retentive about injuries. If someone bumps his knee walking through the dining room, they want it listed...
but they don't know, or care about gambling....totally
Quote from: SunMo on October 20, 2006, 04:12:17 PM
but they don't know, or care about gambling....totally
No quote from The Last Boy Scout? Shame on you.
never saw it...i'm sorry to have disappointed you
You should be.
any updates on McNabb, that sweet hunk of man meat,r's left wrist/hand/whatever?
How bout McCoy? I saw him run off the field with his left arm limp.
andrews lower back
howard groin
tapeh groin
only players mentioned by reid in his presser...none sounded too serious
What's the deal with Hood & Stallworth, then?
they died.
Quote from: FFatPatt on October 23, 2006, 12:08:31 PM
What's the deal with Hood & Stallworth, then?
Vaginitas
no mention of them...i suppose he was only dealing with injuries that occurred in yesterdays game as opposed to an actual injury report
he said Hood and Stallworth will work out today. he thinks Stallworth might be able to play Sunday.
he was maybe gonna be able to play yesterday too...and the sunday before...and the sunday....
as someone mentioned on the board last week...looks like sean payton knew what he was doing
Stallworth is a nice addition to what should already be a good to great offense. Nothing should hinge on his constant hamstring worries.
other than westbrook who gets grossly underused theres nothing "great" about this offense...except its numbers
Right. They're capable of putting up big numbers when they actually play. An offense with a threat like Westbrook should not be so inept so often. Even he's been dropping passes.
yeah he dropped a couple yesterday but how do you average over eight yards a carry and only get 13 rush attemps....instead of throwing it hand the ball to him and you take out the prospect of him dropping a pass....or ronde barber catching one
Take out the Singleback Buck runs and you've got yourself a gameplan.
Probable
No. Player Injury
73 Shawn Andrews Back
86 Reggie Brown Quadricep
79 Todd Herremans Knee
90 Darren Howard Groin
51 Matt McCoy Hip
69 Jon Runyan Back
26 Lito Sheppard Hand/Ankle
18 Donté Stallworth Hamstring
36 Brian Westbrook Knee
Questionable
No. Player Injury
29 Roderick Hood Heel
82 L.J. Smith Back
38 Thomas Tapeh Groin
keep Donte out until after the bye
i thought LJ's back was better after surgery?
No problem until this week. Who knows, maybe he took a shot in the back and its bruised?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on October 25, 2006, 05:22:29 PM
No problem until this week. Who knows, maybe he took a shot in the back and its bruised?
I heard Joselio smacked LJ in the back with his wang.
so is donte and hood ready to go sunday?
They both fully practiced again today.
Stallworth is probable.
Hood is questionable.
So, no. They won't play.
Yup... No chance.
donte when interviewed didnt sound very hopeful to me....hood straight up said hes playing
I'm not quite sure what Donte's saving himself for...
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 26, 2006, 07:21:08 PM
donte when interviewed didnt sound very hopeful to me....hood straight up said hes playing
he sounded hopeful every other week.
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 26, 2006, 07:21:08 PM
donte when interviewed didnt sound very hopeful to me....hood straight up said hes playing
Good. Frankly, I'd rather Donte gave the hammy an extra 2 weeks at this point. The nature of the injury is that it will only get worse if he plays before he's 100%.
How many games has Stallworth missed in his career due to hamstring issues?
he said its not 100% and wont be for this game but that he could still go out there and try to contribute
he def should sit out...if they cant beat jacksonville without him they are in more trouble than even the biggest doubters thought...and if he does play hes not gonna be the difference btwn a w and a l
Quote from: ice grillin you on October 27, 2006, 10:07:32 AM
he said its not 100% and wont be for this game but that he could still go out there and try to contribute
he def should sit out...if they cant beat jacksonville without him they are in more trouble than even the biggest doubters thought...and if he does play hes not gonna be the difference btwn a w and a l
Exactly.
Hood, on the other hand, I'd like to see out there.
I hope Hood plays too. They will need him this week especially if Matt Jones plays. I don't know if he will since he has a groin strain and a hamstring strain. But him, Wilford and Williams are all over 6'4. I know Lito, Sheldon and Hood are not over 6' but I feel much better with those guys versus Hanson and/or Wynn seeing a lot of time covering those guys.
As for Donte, I'd almost rather he sat out this week. After the bye is when it gets tougher so to give him 2 more weeks could be huge. Plus Reggie has been playing well.
I Agree with Phreak.......The Eagles haven't had any problem making big plays without Stallworth. Brown has been productive despite his drops (11th in rec yds and T-2 in TD's) and it seems like someone different has been stepping up each week to be the other big passing option.....be it LJ, Westy or Baskett. So Stallworth's presence is not really a neccessity on the field right now. It's more like a bonus. So sit him out to make sure he's 100%.
Hood's return is huge because this team needs as many healthy people on defense as possible, especially in the secondary.
wow...keeping Stallworth out until after the bye...what a novel concept. it's not like i've been saying it for 3 weeks.
i think everyone has...the difference between now and then is that there is talk of him possibly coming back for sunday...three two even last week i dont think anyone even gave it consideration as they thought it would be a given that hed come back after the bye
actually thats how i looked at it...i probably shouldnt speak for everyone
this is how you SHOULD look at it...
i'm smart, you're not...proceed accordingly
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Saw Phreak on Wednesday night at the grand opening ceremonies for Redneck Heaven Bass Pro Outdoor World in Ft. Myers. He's still hobbling on crutches at this point.