Eagles- 24
Raiders- 21
Eagles 20
Raiders 24.4
Good guys - 27
Men in black - 17
I haven't looked -- what's the official line?
i'll be excited to see kickoff and be dozing off by half time.
birds - 13
rapiers - 9
I just checked myself. For the extremely hardcore gambler, the line is Philly by 3, with the O/U at 36.
Raiders: 26
Birds: 21
Snooze fest after the half.
I predict a lot of time for the scrubs.
its extremely smart to be on preseason games.
they're always a 50-50 toss up, regardless of who's playing
I'll bet the Eagles go 1-4 in the preseason.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 04, 2006, 01:59:58 PM
its extremely smart to be (sic) on preseason games.
Well, it would be smart to bet on the underdog, then.
Eagles 3
Raiders 17
Oak 34
Phi 31
Oakland (Shell) has more to prove to fans owner etc. He will actually care about outcome in his return game. Our 1st unit handles theirs, they come back take the lead and we charge furiously w/5th stringers and make close at the end. Snore-Fest before halftime.
Eagles win because Raiders have almost no depth besides in the secondary. Their starting LBs blow like ours. Their defensive line has no depth. Offensive line has no depth.
Phi-whocares
Oak-careless
It is preseason the winner is really inconsequential.
Eagles - 16
Raiders - 9
Eagles 27
Al Davis' multiple chins 23
Eagles - 23
Faders - 19
i always forget but in the first pre season games how much time does the first unit get? i would only want them in for one series and then yank them out. the rest of the game should be given to buckhalter to see which qrt he will blow his knee in. i say late 2nd.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 04, 2006, 02:46:34 PM
Phi-whocares
Oak-careless
It is preseason the winner is really inconsequential.
Thank you, thank you very much.
(http://www.besspress.com/client/products/prodimagelg/1425.jpg)
who cares, really. At least I can get my Football hard-on cured :crazy...even if it's just preseason.
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 04, 2006, 04:03:08 PM
i always forget but in the first pre season games how much time does the first unit get?
I think we are in uncharted territory here with the hall of fame game, so who knows. In the first preseason game last year against the Steelers, the first team offense was in for the full first quarter and then finished that drive with a TD a few minutes into the 2nd quarter.
On a side note. The first play of that game last year was a McNabb INT returned for a TD. Really set the pace for the season eh?
Quote from: MURP on August 04, 2006, 04:10:15 PM
On a side note. The first play of that game last year was a McNabb INT returned for a TD. Really set the pace for the season eh?
I do remember being awfully pissed about that game even though it was pre-season.
Not a prediction, but maybe an overlooked aspect of this game.
Raiders' Burgess refuses to hold grudge vs. Eagles (http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060804/SPORTS02/608040381/1015)
QuoteBETHLEHEM, Pa.
You won't hear "I told you so" out of Derrick Burgess, the former Eagles defensive end who signed with Oakland last offseason and then stunned the NFL by leading the league in sacks.
Burgess, who lines up Sunday against his former teammates in the Hall of Fame Game -- the second time he's faced the Eagles since bolting for Oakland -- wouldn't thumb his nose at the organization that gave him his first break in the pros.
Even though his play during the 2004 postseason showed an abundance of promise, and even though the Eagles' drop-off in pass rush last season prompted them to shell out a bundle of cash toward another defensive end, Darren Howard.
"I don't look at it like that," Burgess said in a telephone interview from Raiders training camp headquarters in Napa, Calif. "I look at it like it was a business decision for them. They decided it wasn't in their best interests, and that was it."
Still, it raises a point of debate for sports talk radio or among friends at the bar: Had the Eagles matched Oakland's offer of $17.5 million over three years, Burgess would be an Eagle today and they wouldn't have needed to bring in Howard, who cost them $30 million over six years.
Could the money saved there have helped the Eagles upgrade other areas of need? Say, wide receiver or power running back?
"That's not my problem," Burgess said. "I'm with the Raiders. I wish them all the luck, except when they play us, and that's it."
Of course, the Eagles would have needed some incredible foresight to predict the kind of season Burgess would put forth.
At the time, it seemed like a gamble on Oakland's part to award Burgess, then an unrestricted free agent, such a lucrative deal along with a signing bonus worth $5 million. Foot injuries had relegated him to one game over two seasons in 2002 and 2003 and he had played in just 29 games in four years, amassing 8 1/2 sacks, six of which came during his rookie season.
But in the postseason, specifically in Philadelphia's 27-10 NFC Championship Game victory over Atlanta, he showed flashes of brilliance. He sacked slithery quarterback Michael Vick twice then added Tom Brady to the list in the Eagles' 24-21 loss to New England in Super Bowl XXXIX -- a sack that boosted his postseason sack total to four, a franchise record he shares with Hugh Douglas and Reggie White.
"I always knew he was a good player," Eagles defensive tackle Darwin Walker said. "A lot of people in this area doubted him and he went out and showed what he was all about. It's like that every year, somebody always tops out. But we all knew he was a good player."
Burgess still thinks fondly of Andy Reid and his ex-teammates. He even admitted to feeling awkward last season when he arrived at Lincoln Financial Field during a Week 3 clash against the Eagles clad in Oakland's trademark silver and black.
Not until harsh fans showered him with chants of "traitor" did he feel, well, more at home, more comfortable.
"Coach Reid and the staff, they all believed in me and gave me the opportunity," he said. "I still look at the Eagles as one of my teams. It was nothing but a great time for me. I was drafted there. I'm from the Washington, D.C., area. It was real tough to leave."
Oddly enough, it was after that game -- a 23-20 Raiders loss that dropped them to 0-3 -- that Burgess went on an unbridled sacking spree. Oakland had finished tinkering with a 3-4 defensive alignment and switched to a 4-3 set, playing more to his strength as an edge rusher.
He recorded two sacks apiece in each of his next three games and nine in Oakland's final seven games to finish with 16 and become the first Raider in franchise history to lead the NFL in sacks.
"Once I got in that situation with the defense we were running, it started flowing so good," he recalled. "It was just one of those things."
And though Oakland endured its own abysmal season, Burgess couldn't help but feel sorry for the mess he left behind and the woes and drama incorporated with the Eagles' 6-10 season.
"Just to see the winning spirit go out of them like that, it kind of hurt me," he said. "But I know the type of guys they have and the leadership in there. They'll be all right." Reach Geoff Mosher at gemosher@delawareonline.com
Eagles - forty-twelve
Raiders - two
Quote from: Magical_Retard on August 04, 2006, 04:03:08 PM
i always forget but in the first pre season games how much time does the first unit get? i would only want them in for one series and then yank them out. the rest of the game should be given to buckhalter to see which qrt he will blow his knee in. i say late 2nd.
Are you new around here? Don't you know buck only blows his knees in
non-contact drills? If he were to blow his knee at the preseason game, it would be during warm-ups.
yeah but since he hasnt been getting much action in practice im placing my bets on this game.
Eagles 56
Raiders 2
Hank Baskett 14 receptions 202 yards receiving and 5 TDs.
Mahe gets tackled in the backfield for a safety.
holla
Quote from: phillywin2k5 on August 04, 2006, 03:27:19 PM
Eagles 27
Al Davis' multiple chins 23
At the HOF inductions, Al Davis was there. He looks like a walking corpse :poison
Eagles: 24
Raiders: 20
I won't be able to see this exhibition.
Tivo?
I don't have cable at all.
Eagles Win:
Raiders - 5
Eagles - 2
(injuries, that is)
Perhaps so, but I don't have rabbit ears, either.
How can someone not have a cable or satellite hookup in 2006?
I'm not busting your stones, Dio. I just can't wrap my brain around that concept.
PS: You have an internet connection, obviously. Are you on a DSL line or dial-up?
I choose not to have it. Can you wrap your brain around that?
Each year, I have the cable tv disconnected after the Super Bowl and re-connected for the start of the season. So there's another month or so before I have the guy come out and re-connect it.
Quote from: dis12 on August 05, 2006, 08:02:04 PMAt the HOF inductions, Al Davis was there. He looks like a walking corpse :poison
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060103/060103_aldavis_vmed_9p.widec.jpg)
Brains......braains...BRAAAAIIINNNNSSSS
I predict a TD return from Bruce Perry.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2006, 10:17:12 AM
I choose not to have it. Can you wrap your brain around that?
Apparently, I couldn't.
Now I can, thanks to you.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2006, 10:17:12 AM
I choose not to have it. Can you wrap your brain around that?
Each year, I have the cable tv disconnected after the Super Bowl and re-connected for the start of the season. So there's another month or so before I have the guy come out and re-connect it.
How much do they charge you to unhook and hook it back up?? Don't even try and tell me it's for free. Your wasting your money.
Any other normal person would just watch the cable guy unhook it and then hook it back up as soon as his truck turned the corner.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2006, 09:45:30 AM
Perhaps so, but I don't have rabbit ears, either.
Sports bar?
Eagles 20
Raiders 17
My predictions:
1) The Eagles will possibly lose & fans will be calling for a 3-13 year.
2) The Eagles will possibly win...SUPERBOWL baby!
3) They will run 2 pass plays in a row & fans will say Reid hasn't learned his lesson.
4) Reno will have a successful game with about 85 rush yds & 1 TD. Fans will find more reason to hate him.
5) McNabb will throw 4 incompletions, fans will blame it on him thinking about TO or losing too much weight in the offseason.
5) Baskett will get 4 receptions for 58 yards. He will drop one. Cut him.
6) Someone who we all think will suck, will have a great game.
7) Someone who we think is great, will suck.
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 06, 2006, 01:15:18 PM
My predictions:
1) The Eagles will possibly lose & fans will be calling for a 3-13 year.
2) The Eagles will possibly win...SUPERBOWL baby!
3) They will run 2 pass plays in a row & fans will say Reid hasn't learned his lesson.
4) Reno will have a successful game with about 85 rush yds & 1 TD. Fans will find more reason to hate him.
5) McNabb will throw 4 incompletions, fans will blame it on him thinking about TO or losing too much weight in the offseason.
5) Baskett will get 4 receptions for 58 yards. He will drop one. Cut him.
6) Someone who we all think will suck, will have a great game.
7) Someone who we think is great, will suck.
All bow at the almighty soothsayer Beermonkey. :bow
6 hrs away....farg...why am i so excited for this pointless game! :boom
Quote from: mussa on August 06, 2006, 02:16:51 PM
6 hrs away....farg...why am i so excited for this pointless game! :boom
Because it is football.
Quote from: mussa on August 06, 2006, 02:16:51 PM
6 hrs away....farg...why am i so excited for this pointless game! :boom
I had 3 16-oz "Monster Energy" drinks this afternoon, which equals about 15,000 mg of caffeine. I'm going to need to polish off a bottle of rum just to even myself out now.
this morning i realized that living in taterskins country has made me care way too much about the eagles. once i see someone rocking any kind of eagles gear, they immediately become my best friend. i was at cvs earlier today and some 10 year old kid was wearing an eagles t-shirt, and i talked to him for like 10 minutes. he was 10.
I had lunch today at a place called Famous Philly's down here and Eagles fans were already starting to trickle in for the game.
This was at 1:30, mind you.
:-D
I am down here in the heart of Cowboys country and today I met an Eagles fan for only the second time. Both times I was not able to talk to them, the guy today was a security guard at the gate. I suppose I will have to wait to meet fellow fans when I go to Houston on opening day.
Quote from: phattymatty on August 06, 2006, 02:39:09 PM
this morning i realized that living in taterskins country has made me care way too much about the eagles. once i see someone rocking any kind of eagles gear, they immediately become my best friend. i was at cvs earlier today and some 10 year old kid was wearing an eagles t-shirt, and i talked to him for like 10 minutes. he was 10.
Ha. Same thing with me 2 days ago at Home Depot down in the giant sized bandwagon that is Atlanta. I had just bought a new lawn mower and was wheeling it out and I spot a guy walking in with a shirt with "Philadelphia Eagles" on it. Reason I point that out is that there's a big school right where I live named the "Collins Hill Eagles" and their colors are green and everything, they have wings on their helmets... they even use the eagle head and the logo. Anyway... I see that this guy is on board with me... he's minding his own business and while passing him, I give him a nod and say "Go Eagles." He stops in his tracks, says the same to me... and before I knew it, we were cussing T.O. out and talking about how much we were looking forward to tonight's game... and shutting up all the doubters this year. Mrs. Feva, who was sitting out in the hot ass sun with me, while I shot the shtein with this guy didn't enjoy it as much for some reason.
It's a farging shame... but beautiful as hell at the same time. :-D
Thats funny because down here in TX there is a local HS team called the Ellison Eagles with very similar logo and same colors, people often see my Eagles plate on the front of my truck and think thats who it is.
i wore my eagles hat everywhere i went when i was in dallas like 3 yrs ago on vacation. just hoping for some shtein talking. not one farger said anything. amazing. now if it was the complete opposite in philly, i might of ended up dead.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 06, 2006, 04:01:30 PM
Thats funny because down here in TX there is a local HS team called the Ellison Eagles with very similar logo and same colors, people often see my Eagles plate on the front of my truck and think thats who it is.
Yup... the exact same situation. There are so many people in my area that have those Eagles plates, shirts, etc. and it's pretty tough to tell a lot of times.
Bob Holtzman or whatever on ESPNews said Andy announced they'd play an entire quarter. The first team that is.
Ask Mr. Holtzman if we've landed on the moon yet.
Holtzman is only good for breaking news, sorry.
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 06, 2006, 04:26:55 PM
Ask Mr. Holtzman if we've landed on the moon yet.
:-D
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 11:42:35 AMHow much do they charge you to unhook and hook it back up?? Don't even try and tell me it's for free. Your wasting your money.
I'm not cutting the tv to save money. I'm cutting it to cut it.
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 11:42:35 AMAny other normal person would just watch the cable guy unhook it and then hook it back up as soon as his truck turned the corner.
I don't aspire to be what you consider normal. I'm not interested on climbing onto the roof.
Eat shtein.
It's Always Sunny at Dio's House...
You're welcome to visit any time, Feva.
2 hrs til gametime. 10 minutes til NFL Network pre-game show. are we ready for some football?!!?
Yeah, Dio... it's all fun and games until the 30 year old black guy shows up at your doorstep with a sleeping bag.
^^^ :-D ^^^
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 06, 2006, 05:55:31 PM
Yeah, Dio... it's all fun and games until the 30 year old black guy shows up at your doorstep with a sleeping bag.
That's not as bad as a 45 year old white guy doing the same...
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2006, 05:59:20 PM
Quote from: EagleFeva on August 06, 2006, 05:55:31 PM
Yeah, Dio... it's all fun and games until the 30 year old black guy shows up at your doorstep with a sleeping bag.
That's not as bad as a 45 year old white guy doing the same...
You've met my brother-in-law, I see.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2006, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 11:42:35 AMHow much do they charge you to unhook and hook it back up?? Don't even try and tell me it's for free. Your wasting your money.
I'm not cutting the tv to save money. I'm cutting it to cut it.
You made your point, down with the Establishment, down with The Man!!
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2006, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 11:42:35 AMAny other normal person would just watch the cable guy unhook it and then hook it back up as soon as his truck turned the corner.
I don't aspire to be what you consider normal. I'm not interested on climbing onto the roof.
Eat shtein.
From what I've read, you could just float up there on most afternoons. Even still, pay the kid next door 25 bucks and get it for free, roll the Tube in the closet for the off-season.
Nah, that would be illegal, and you wouldn't do that. :-D
I'm just friggen' happy I finally get to see some football removed from all the crap that went on last season. It's all new, anything can happen. I'm pumped. I'm gonna' tivo this game and watch it all week most likely.
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 06:16:49 PM
You made your point, down with the Establishment, down with The Man!!
No, dick. It has nothing to do with "the man." That's you talking, not me. Read what I've said. I LIKE to live without television for a while. Then I like to turn it back on. What's the big farging mystery here?
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 06:16:49 PMFrom what I've read, you could just float up there on most afternoons.
D-
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 06:16:49 PMEven still, pay the kid next door 25 bucks and get it for free, roll the Tube in the closet for the off-season. Nah, that would be illegal, and you wouldn't do that. :-D
That would be illegal and stupid. There is no kid next door, and that's alright. I can afford to play by the rules. You have strange ideas.
.........and your just strange.
It's "you're." The distinction is worth learning.
it has the same meannans however you spell it.
Not when you actually have to spell it, but don't know how.
You still knew what I meant.
You still couldn't spell it right if you had to. Learn it.
Now, back on topic. My prediction:
Eagles 27
Raiders 13
Quote from: Diomedes on August 06, 2006, 07:09:12 PM
You still couldn't spell it right if you had to. Learn it.
How 'bout you suck it, you grammar Nazi bitch.
Don't get upset, just learn it. It's worth knowing.
Right now, I'm too buzzed to be upset. I'm a happy drunk.
Quote from: Wingspan on August 04, 2006, 01:51:53 PM
i'll be excited to see kickoff and be dozing off by half time.
this prediction came 100% accurate...btw
i rule
Quote from: phattymatty on August 06, 2006, 02:39:09 PM
once i see someone rocking any kind of eagles gear, they immediately become my best friend.
What's up, friend.(http://www.maskon.com/marti/Carolyn/Images/February%202005/fan13.jpg)
Dear Lord.
Nice legs, qwert.
I'm sportin' wood already.