Everything I'm reading points towards Hank Baskett being the next Jerry Rice. So refresh my memory with the past undrafted FA WR's who came in and had a huge impact their rookie year. Rod Smith didn't do anything his first two seasons.
Wayne Chrebet was undrafted, and in his rookie year had 66 catches, 726 yards, and 4 TDs.
Drew Bennett had a decent rookie year. 24 catches, 329 yards, TD.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 03, 2006, 02:48:43 PM
Wayne Chrebet was undrafted, and in his rookie year had 66 catches, 726 yards, and 4 TDs.
nice. Thats what Im looking for.
Bennett... meh.
How many #1's have come in and done the same?
hank baskett will not be able to get open in this league...hes slower than dirt and despite his size he has an awful hard time getting off the line
where he might be able to contribute is as a red zone guy...he could be pretty effective one on one in the end zone going up for balls as he is huge and has very good hands
if he makes the team....i could see him having 12 catches this year and 4 touchdowns
he doesn't have to be a superstar to be an impact player with the WRs we have
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 03, 2006, 02:50:50 PM
How many #1's have come in and done the same?
Not many at all. Which means the rate for URFA is almost zero. The typical is 3 years to break out for any WR. Im talking this year, not 3 years from now. Wayne Chrebet gives hope.
It really shouldnt matter that Baskett was UDFA, mostly everyone knows he should have atleast been drafted around the 5th or 6th round.
I was looking around, maybe he could be like Clarence Moore. He was a 6th rounder, 199th pick. Rookie season 24 catches, 292 yards, 4 TDs.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 03, 2006, 02:51:15 PM
hank baskett will not be able to get open in this league...hes slower than dirt and despite his size he has an awful hard time getting off the line
I was thinking about that on the ride up today. Will they beat able to beat the press? And I think it really doesn't matter. Why? because the officials are so damn ticky tack about the bump rule now that it almost neutralizes corners from touching a guy at the line. I know they are supposed to get 5 yards, but I think that this will help those guys out.
And Baskett doesn't seem to be having any trouble when a guy puts his hands on him to try to jam him up. On one play he had Rod Hood hanging from his jersey and left arm and he still caught the ball.
Who knows. We'll have to see. But I cannot remember a guy, a rookie I should say, playing like this. Usually Reid banishes the rooks to the bottom on the barrel. Now we see Baskett running primarily with the 1's.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 03, 2006, 03:03:38 PM
It really shouldnt matter that Baskett was UDFA, mostly everyone knows he should have atleast been drafted around the 5th or 6th round.
yeah and so should have Justin Jenkins according to Mel Kiper (including the then injury). Bottom line is he wasnt drafted and was traded for Billy fuggin McMullen. That's where we stand with that. Phreak says he is with the #1's. Then again, like Phatty said, the WR's on this team are so average that maybe he doesnt have to do much to contibute big this year.
And Baskett doesn't seem to be having any trouble when a guy puts his hands on him to try to jam him up. On one play he had Rod Hood hanging from his jersey and left arm and he still caught the ball.
i have no doubt he can make any catch...i just dont think he can get consistently open in the nfl...and we all know how donovan doesnt like trying to squeeze balls in...which is why i think he could turn out to be a valuable red zone guy...where he wont have to get seperation...he can run to a corner and jump with a guy hanging on his jersey and make the play
Quote from: MURP on August 03, 2006, 02:44:34 PM
Everything I'm reading points towards Hank Baskett being the next Jerry Rice. So refresh my memory with the past undrafted FA WR's who came in and had a huge impact their rookie year. Rod Smith didn't do anything his first two seasons.
Didn't Rod Smith actually get cut sometime in his first couple seasons?
This really doesnt count, but Dane Looker wasnt drafted and didnt play until his 4th year where he had 47 catches, 495 yards, and 3 TDs.
all I want to know is if Donovan McNabb's past hernia operation is affecting his Michael Jackson "hee-hee" kick step when he throws a TD in practice
Phreak, does he have trouble with the full leg extension?
:-D
No MJ dances yet.
Quote from: MURP on August 03, 2006, 02:55:38 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 03, 2006, 02:50:50 PM
How many #1's have come in and done the same?
Not many at all. Which means the rate for URFA is almost zero. The typical is 3 years to break out for any WR. Im talking this year, not 3 years from now. Wayne Chrebet gives hope.
There's always exceptions. Hopefully Hank will be one of those exceptions.
I wouldn't bet on it, though. I mean, how many practice pro-bowlers have the Eagles had at the position in recent years?
I still think Avant is going to be a better, more productive pro, but at this point, I don't care who produces. Just catch the ball, get some first downs and keep the ball moving in the right direction.
Quote from: reese125 on August 03, 2006, 03:19:11 PM
all I want to know is if Donovan McNabb's past hernia operation is affecting his Michael Jackson "hee-hee" kick step when he throws a TD in practice
Phreak, does he have trouble with the full leg extension?
the first thursday practice, he scrambled out the pocket, the crowd went wild. he did a little move...crowd got louder, then he did the MJ kick step and spiked the ball...it was fargin GREAT! Its not gonna win an award...but its damn funny
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 03, 2006, 03:11:15 PM
Quote from: MURP on August 03, 2006, 02:44:34 PM
Everything I'm reading points towards Hank Baskett being the next Jerry Rice. So refresh my memory with the past undrafted FA WR's who came in and had a huge impact their rookie year. Rod Smith didn't do anything his first two seasons.
Didn't Rod Smith actually get cut sometime in his first couple seasons?
Not to turn this into a Rod Smith discussion but it looks like the only team he has been with is Denver - who did cut him once:
CAREER TRANSACTIONS: Signed by Denver as an undrafted free agent 5/3/94; Waived by Denver 8/26/94; Signed by Denver (practice squad) 8/30/94.On Hank, wouldn't it just be nice to have a guy come out of now where and produce at the WR position for the Eagles?
It would just go a long way to shut up all the critics. It's unlikely however there's nothing saying it can't happen.
The only thing that will and ever should shut up the critics is them winning the SB.
baskett is on dnl tonight
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 03, 2006, 05:02:57 PM
baskett is on dnl tonight
I'll expect a full recap for us non-Philly folks. Thanks in advance.
if big ed is on his game (and when is he not) he will have the csn video link up within five minutes of the interview ending
Baskett on Daily News Live said it's pronounced Basket, and not Baskette. I'm glad he said that because I've been saying Basket since he got here, because Baskette sounds quite feminine. Plus it's been annoying me when people I've talked to or heard on TV/Radio said it like that.
Out of all the things he said, you chose to report that. Thanks.
I feel enlightened.
I caught the Baskett interview and simply from a personality stand point, I think it'd be hard not to like him. Smart kid, good sense of humor, blah blah blah. He's got good size and is one hell of a jumper.......won the New Mexico high jumping event or something like that, so I think there's definately some potential for him. Will it be this year? Probably not. But if he can improve his technique and perfect route running then I think he could be a solid player. I'm not concerned about his speed or lack there of. Plenty of great recievers in this league did it without blazing speed. They did it with intelligence and solid fundamentals, both of which I think this kid has. I'm looking forward to seeing him in action during the preseason. Hopefully he'll get a few snaps with McNabb and the first team offense just to gauge his ability.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 03, 2006, 07:34:26 PM
Out of all the things he said, you chose to report that. Thanks.
What players say doesn't matter. All they do is toe the company line. I'm happy to be here, it's hot at camp, but I have to stay humble and work hard. I didn't make the team yet but need to play hard, etc. Every player says the same old crap.
At least Baskett gave out something useful, like how to pronounce his name. Though even if he did say it was pronounced Baskette, I still would've pronounced it Basket. So I guess it doesn't really matter.
SHUT YOUR FACE
At least Baskett gave out something useful, like how to pronounce his name
oh word?
Now we can say, McNabb hit Hank right in the bread baskett.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
somebody find a board with a nail in it...bunkley78 took too many funny pills tonight
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 03, 2006, 07:50:49 PM
All they do is toe the company line.
Basquette can punt too? No shtein! He's as much a lock as Bunkley78 is a douche.
Which is a lot.
Don't know what the hell you are talking about.
it's ok, just put this sticker on
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Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 03, 2006, 07:57:09 PM
Now we can say, McNabb hit Hank right in the bread baskett.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
Now I see why people get mad at you.
he's flailing like a paralyzed seal...badda zing!
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 03, 2006, 08:17:23 PM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 03, 2006, 07:57:09 PM
Now we can say, McNabb hit Hank right in the bread baskett.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
Now I see why people get mad at you.
I agree with the quote in your sig. A+
Quote from: 4and26 on August 03, 2006, 04:59:18 PMOn insert udfa/low draft pick name here wouldn't it just be nice to have a guy come out of now where and produce
The Eagles and Andy Reid are positively addicted to this idea. It's not healthy.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 03, 2006, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: 4and26 on August 03, 2006, 04:59:18 PMOn insert udfa/low draft pick name here wouldn't it just be nice to have a guy come out of now where and produce
The Eagles and Andy Reid are positively addicted to this idea. It's not healthy.
It is for the bottom line.
Quote from: mussa on August 03, 2006, 08:03:10 PM
somebody find a board with a nail in it
waaaaay too kind in this case... your next post is more along the right lines.
Quote from: mussa on August 03, 2006, 08:19:24 PM
he's flailing like a paralyzed seal...badda zing!
Unlicensed use of copyrighted material is a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine.
Don't let it happen again.
:deion
mike quick was just on wip and said that baskett will be the #2 wr this year
I call Na Brown-anigans until I see him play in a real game.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 09:03:17 AM
mike quick was just on wip and said that baskett will be the #2 wr this year
This news is going to upset the TATE villagers.
(http://www.jcnot4me.com/images/mob-angry.gif)
how is the ol tate these days
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 09:03:17 AM
mike quick was just on wip and said that baskett will be the #2 wr this year
I would find that hard to believe if...
- Pinkston had any chance of being healthy in 2006 (which he doesn't)
- Greg Lewis had any competitive fire to improve his game (which he doesn't)
Freddie Mitchell was still on the team
In all seriousness, we've heard and seen that Reggie Brown is the definite #1 and that Gaffney has looked perfect on the inside in slot positions. That leaves a need for an outside "X" receiver in 2 and 3 WR sets, and Baskett is probably the best the Eagles have on the roster right now.
1. Brown
2. Baskett
3. Gaffney
4. Lewis (would be Pinkston if he was healthy)
5. Avant
6. Pinkston (if they think he'll be healthy at all in 2006) or McCants
That will strike fear into the hearts of opposing DB's, I'm sure.
Like you don't know...
trust me id stop in periodically if i could but easy banned me well over a year ago and i havent been back since
1. Brown
2. Baskett
3. Gaffney
gulp
what i dont get is how can the eagles have two positions on their team that are up there for the worst in the nfl...i know you cant have 'players' at every slot on the field but the eagles have two whole areas (wr, lb) where they are pathetic...i just dont see how a team can go into a seaosn and expect great things with that being the case
Lelie would be a perfect fit as the #2 on this team. I just thought I'd share that again.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 04, 2006, 09:42:09 AM
Lelie would be a perfect fit as the #2 on this team. I just thought I'd share that again.
Jerry Porter eats pieces of shtein like Lelie for breakfast.
neither of them possess the character it takes to be a philadelphia eagle these days
Jerry Porter would be a superior slot receiver to Jabar Gaffney, but he is not the field-stretcher that the Eagles seek to fill that #2 spot. While Baskett will not win any races, he will fight for the jump ball, which is at least something.
Lelie would be a better fit than Jerry Porter for this team. that is incredibly accurate.
That was never my point FF. What I was simply trying to say is that Jerry Porter eats shtein.
that is incredibly accurate tho, if I had to pick between the two, Lelie or Porter, I would take Porter everytime. Lelie wants out of Denver because he wants to be a #1, which he clearly isn't. Porter is like a #1.5 that will play #2, or maybe even #3.
Your numbering system is meaningless. The Eagles like to use the following:
1. Best overall WR on the team
2. Deep threat / field stretcher
3. Inside guy / crisp route-runner / catches in traffic
4/5. One speed guy, and one more possession guy
Avant was drafted to be the long-term answer at #3. Reggie Brown is #1.
The Eagles still need someone to fill that #2 more than anything, and they prefer to put someone in that role that can draw defenders off the intermediate routes and make the occasional big play. Porter is best at pretty much everything BUT the deep stuff.
Yes, he'd be an improvement over anyone the Eagles have, in general. But Lelie would be a better fit.
I don't like Lelie...but he would be the better fit.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 04, 2006, 10:23:50 AM
But Lelie would be a better fit.
I would contend that if Lelie couldn't talk and showed up to every practice and game and played at 100%, he would be a better fit. However, if he came here and was made to take Pinky's role (pretty much what he claims to hate so much in Denver), he would be a douche. Porter, would probably accept his role and do his job. I guess what I am trying to say is that between the two of them, the only on that seems slightly logical in terms of who the Eagles FO would pursue, it would be Porter.
So in closing, Hank Baskett is going to be our number two.
(http://www.billszone.com/mtimages/2006_draft/wr_te/basket_1_1.jpg)
Here's another question, could Baskett be a TE in the making?
You're right...the Eagles aren't going to get either. But if they were to, they'd go for Lelie. He doesn't have quite the 'tude Porter does, he's faster, and he'd come cheaper.
Im praying Hank Baskett is more of a training camp illusion as our #2 than this:
If you stare at one yellow dot for a while, the other yellow dots disappear.
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Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 04, 2006, 10:29:09 AM
However, if he came here and was made to take Pinky's role (pretty much what he claims to hate so much in Denver), he would be a douche. Porter, would probably accept his role and do his job. I guess what I am trying to say is that between the two of them, the only on that seems slightly logical in terms of who the Eagles FO would pursue, it would be Porter.
Wrong. Porter recently got a nice contract extension, and he's still being a bitch. Lelie's gripe is that he's finishing up his rookie deal, and he wants to start so that he can earn his big payday.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 04, 2006, 10:29:09 AM
Here's another question, could Baskett be a TE in the making?
Um... no. What good would that do the team?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 09:40:42 AMtrust me id stop in periodically if i could but easy banned me well over a year ago and i havent been back since
You haven't missed anything. Someone claimed the Eagles were a 3.5 pt underdog to Houston because the Texans had a "+" symbol and "+ means positive"...
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 04, 2006, 10:56:31 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 09:40:42 AMtrust me id stop in periodically if i could but easy banned me well over a year ago and i havent been back since
You haven't missed anything. Someone claimed the Eagles were a 3.5 pt underdog to Houston because the Texans had a "+" symbol and "+ means positive"...
:-D
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 04, 2006, 10:55:59 AM
Wrong. Porter recently got a nice contract extension, and he's still being a bitch. Lelie's gripe is that he's finishing up his rookie deal, and he wants to start so that he can earn his big payday.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 04, 2006, 10:29:09 AM
Here's another question, could Baskett be a TE in the making?
Um... no. What good would that do the team?
Ah, I forgot about Porter's extension. What is his bitch then? That he just wants a new team?
The think about Baskett being a TE, I asked it because of his size and leaping ability. I remember before the draft some Draft sites had him listed as a WR/TE.
I wonder how Baskett is with the playbook. Reggie Brown didnt seem to have a problem with it, but every other WR who came here did.
Also, there if Baskett is the #2 here off the bat there must be a conspiracy of collusion with good old Childress.
"Ah, I forgot about Porter's extension. What is his bitch then? That he just wants a new team?"
he doesnt like the way Art Shell is running things over there.
Should sit well over here in Eagle land huh?
Baskett was like a 4.0 student in high school and an honor student in college.
I doubt he'll have any trouble assimillating it like Mitchell, et al.
BTW: Stop the nonsense about Porter. No way the Eagles go down that road again.
:-D
Quote from: MURP on August 04, 2006, 11:02:34 AM
I wonder how Baskett is with the playbook. Reggie Brown didnt seem to have a problem with it, but every other WR who came here did.
Also, there if Baskett is the #2 here off the bat there must be a conspiracy of collusion with good old Childress.
I think I read something on PE.com that talked about how impressed the coaches were with Baskett picking up the playbook quickly. I'll see if I can find it....
I heart Google...
QuoteDefining a great student athlete
Undergraduate competitor says giving up is not an option
Issue date: 4/7/04 Section: Sports
by Landon Dyksterhouse
Daily Lobo
Imagine having to be at campus at 8 a.m. and not leaving until 12 a.m. Junior Hank Baskett does not imagine this lifestyle - he lives it.
Baskett personifies the words student athlete. In the fall, he plays wide receiver. In the spring, he competes in the high jump. Year round he makes good grades in the classroom.
A typical day for Baskett is arriving for class in the morning, and then going to practice all afternoon. Exhausted after practice, Baskett returns to main campus for a night class and then it's over to the library to study.
"The hardest thing about being a student athlete is going through a full-padded practice, sitting through the meetings and everything and coming out of practice tired," Baskett said. "Then you have the night classes. That's the hardest thing - going to night class."
Baskett said he excels in athletics and academics because of values his parents instilled in him.
Baskett's father, Henry Jr., spent 30 years in the Air Force and taught him an important lesson early in life - giving up is not an option.
"One thing they always taught me is once I start something, they never let me quit anything," Baskett said. "I think that is good. That makes me want to go harder and not quit school. You may not want to do an assignment, but I know I never quit anything, and I am not going to start now."
Baskett said another reason academics is a priority is because he is on scholarship. He said athletes who do not have good grades do not play.
At Clovis High School, Baskett was a three-sport standout. He averaged 15 points and 12 rebounds playing basketball, and was a second team all-state punter and receiver. He set a state-meet record in the high jump with a 7-foot leap at the 2000 state track meet in Albuquerque. Not to mention he a carries a 190 average as a bowler.
As successful as Baskett was in athletics, he was equally successful in the classroom. He completed high school with a 4.0 GPA.
At UNM, Baskett finished third on the football team with 17 catches for 288 yards, along with three touchdowns, in all 13 games in 2002.
He earned all-Mountain West Conference honors for high jump his freshman and sophomore years. He was an academic all-MWC honoree and a first team academic all-district selection for the football team. Baskett is working toward an undergraduate degree in business.
Baskett said time management is an essential skill to have as a student athlete. He said he has to make time to relax and sleeps whenever he can.
"Managing your time and having a full schedule is difficult," Baskett said. "But you still have to have time for yourself because if it gets to where you have no time for yourself, that's when the stress really hits you hard."
Senior academic football adviser David Fox has worked with Baskett over the last three years, and said his success is inevitable.
"Hank is a great student and a better young man," Fox said. "I will be surprised if he doesn't make a lot of money in his lifetime. I think he typifies what coach Long wants the program to be about."
You haven't missed anything. Someone claimed the Eagles were a 3.5 pt underdog to Houston because the Texans had a "+" symbol and "+ means positive"...
wow
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 09:40:42 AM
Like you don't know...
trust me id stop in periodically if i could but easy banned me well over a year ago and i havent been back since
1. Brown
2. Baskett
3. Gaffney
gulp
what i dont get is how can the eagles have two positions on their team that are up there for the worst in the nfl...i know you cant have 'players' at every slot on the field but the eagles have two whole areas (wr, lb) where they are pathetic...i just dont see how a team can go into a seaosn and expect great things with that being the case
I don't know if the Eagles have the worst WRs in the NFL but they sure are close. You can't forget about KC, BUF, and SF.
I don't know if the Eagles have the worst WRs in the NFL but they sure are close. You can't forget about KC, BUF, and SF.
"the eagles have two positions on their team that are up there for the worst in the nfl"
christ.... I had a 4.0 in high school, then a 2.6 in college and also had one hell of a high jump--right up on a bar stool to order--best in the area
i mean, this is all well and good that Wormser Baskett likes to use the Dewey Decimal System on Friday nights in the library, but can this guy effectively be a #2 receiver in the NFL? Im shocked he even has his own thread
straight A's across the board my man...no joke
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 11:21:59 AM
I don't know if the Eagles have the worst WRs in the NFL but they sure are close. You can't forget about KC, BUF, and SF.
"the eagles have two positions on their team that are up there for the worst in the nfl"
True, though with both of those positions there is at least little bit of optimism they can improve. My biggest concern on the team is the fact Dhani is most likely the starting SAM he is miscast in that role.
gargano is reporting that they eagles def have interest in lelie and they have spoken several times to denver about him
right now denver wants a three but the eagles feel as tho that is too much
Quote from: reese125 on August 04, 2006, 11:27:36 AM
straight A's across the board my man...no joke
so you were a nerd in high school, and then got to college and partied to much and ended up with a bad GPA?
Soooo our #2 reciever is slow but has good hands when that slot needs someone to stretch the field? Is that correct? Warm Fuzzy's all around.
just to restate how smart i am, i've been pimping baskett since the draft. i really wanted him.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 12:38:18 PM
gargano is reporting that they eagles def have interest in lelie and they have spoken several times to denver about him
right now denver wants a three but the eagles feel as tho that is too much
I don't see how a 3 is too much especially if they can sign him to an extension. If they can get him for a 3 they should do it now.
I don't see how a 3 is too much especially if they can sign him to an extension
it has to be that they dont want to sign him to an extension....they want a rent a receiver for this season...basically a replacement/insurance policy for pinky
billy mcmullen was a third round pick.....then again so was westbrook
i personally do it without a second thought
I think a 3 is too much, because Denver won't get much out of him this year either way, AND they outbid the Eagles with a higher 2nd rounder for Javon Walker. The Eagles are smart to stick to a 2nd-day pick offer, because, ultimately, the Broncos will not get a 3rd or higher for Lelie.
this is what a conditional pick was made for. If he plays well it turns to a 3rd. we are all happy now, yay.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 01:12:37 PM
I don't see how a 3 is too much especially if they can sign him to an extension
it has to be that they dont want to sign him to an extension....they want a rent a receiver for this season...basically a replacement/insurance policy for pinky
billy mcmullen was a third round pick.....then again so was westbrook
i personally do it without a second thought
A 3rd is too much to give up if they just plan on "renting" for a year, unless they plan on making a SB run, which I am not sure they are ready for this season.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 04, 2006, 09:40:42 AM
1. Brown
2. Baskett
3. Gaffney
gulp
I had that once, back in Nam.
Quote from: reese125 on August 04, 2006, 11:23:57 AMchrist.... I had a 4.0 in high school, then a 2.6 in college
4.1 high school, 3.0 college. I rule too
Weighted GPA's over 4.0 are for the gays. But, it's not surprising considering your high school alma mater.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 04, 2006, 02:34:51 PM
Quote from: reese125 on August 04, 2006, 11:23:57 AMchrist.... I had a 4.0 in high school, then a 2.6 in college
4.1 high school, 3.0 college. I rule too
both of mine were in the 2.8-2.9 range and I never studied and partied my arse off I rule more.
#6 overall out of 490-something...
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 04, 2006, 02:34:51 PM
Quote from: reese125 on August 04, 2006, 11:23:57 AMchrist.... I had a 4.0 in high school, then a 2.6 in college
4.1 high school, 3.0 college. I rule too
I can't wait to see you in the swimsuit competition next.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 04, 2006, 02:38:02 PM
#6 overall out of 490-something...
You should totally wear your high school jacket around and sew a big #6 to it.
ha
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 04, 2006, 02:36:15 PM
Weighted GPA's over 4.0 are for the gays. But, it's not surprising considering your high school alma mater.
any one over the age of 25 talking about their GPA's are for the extreme gays
I give no more than a 4th for Lelie.
Or a conditional 5th and a player.
Denver's choice.
I think re-signing Lelie is a wait a see process. They haven't decided either way if they acquire him.
Which is why they won't risk giving up a 3rd.
to make sure this thread doesnt get into who took who to the Soph Hop, I was purely adding to the punch that grades dont mean squat when trying to be a #2 receiver. booksmart to learn the playbook yes, but we are looking for consistent skill here-- and I think Basketboy will be a great case of the Doug Johnson Effect IF he plays
that said, get Lelie fast to turn these fans frowns upside down
If anyone gives a farg, some ESPN Insider is coming on ESPNews in a couple minutes with the latest on Ashley Lelie. I'll post anything if its newsworthy.
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 04, 2006, 03:09:34 PM
If anyone gives a farg, some ESPN Insider is coming on ESPNews in a couple minutes with the latest on Ashley Lelie. I'll post anything if its newsworthy.
The latest is probably that the Falcons are making a bid for him.
ESPN sucks ass. They always lead up to some huge story, and they literally spent 20 seconds on Lelie. They said either New England or Atlanta are the best bets, 'especially if T.J. Duckett is included in the deal.'
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 04, 2006, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: Dillen37 on August 04, 2006, 03:09:34 PM
If anyone gives a farg, some ESPN Insider is coming on ESPNews in a couple minutes with the latest on Ashley Lelie. I'll post anything if its newsworthy.
The latest is probably that the Falcons are making a bid for him.
Duckett for Lelie again possibly?
could be, word in Denver is Tatum Bell is truly sucking ass and making a ton of mistakes. they might need someone
According to GCobb Hank Baskett is a starter. He said he asked Andy if Hank was with the 1's and he said yes.
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If anyone gives a farg, some ESPN Insider is coming on ESPNews in a couple minutes with the latest on Ashley Lelie. I'll post anything if its newsworthy.
The latest is probably that the Falcons are making a bid for him.
Falcons make sense with Finneran being down but Lelie is almost back to where he started. My buddy lives in Atlanta and said they are really high on Roddy White. Lelie could be #3 behind Michael Jenkins.
From PE.com
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Reid Sets Sunday's Personnel Rotation
August 5, 2006
By ZACH BERMAN
The Eagles had a quick mock game on Saturday morning before wrapping up the first part of training camp and preparing for a trip to Canton, Ohio, for Sunday night's first preseason game against the Oakland Raiders.
Head coach Andy Reid met with the media after practice to provide a run down of how the Eagles will split up playing time in Sunday's game. Reid made it simple: The first team will play the first quarter, the second team will play the second quarter, the third team will play the third quarter and the fourth team will play the fourth quarter.
Reid confirmed what anyone who has been watching how the Eagles line up at practice has witnessed: the first-team offense will include rookie free agent Hank Baskett at receiver.
"It's about getting those young guys an opportunity to play and see what they're all about," Reid said. "We'll do that throughout the preseason. As long as we have the guys, they'll have the opportunity to play. Everyone should be able to get into game. Unless something crazy happens, they'll have their shot in there."
Reid said the first team won't play much in this game nor in the final preseason game on Sept. 1 against the New York Jets. They'll get the majority of their work in between.
But for Baskett, an undrafted receiver who originally signed with the Minnesota Vikings after draft only to be dealt to the Eagles in May, the opportunity to be lining up with the first team in his first game is
"Coming into my first game and being out there with the first guys coming in, it will be quite an experience to try to accept," Baskett said. "It's always a dream to start that first game, but for it to actually be happening in my first game -- especially after the draft with the way that happened -- it's like a dream come true right now. I just have to keep playing or else it will turn into a nightmare, but I don't expect it to happen like that."
The Eagles have had a little bit more than two weeks to prepare for the game. Because of how early the game is and the nature of the preseason, the game-planning or play-calling won't be too elaborate.
"They're not going to show everything they'll show during the season and we won't show everything we'll show during the season," Reid said. "It's mainly an opportunity to get these guys out there. They have a chance to hit other people besides their own group and during the game everything's a little faster. You'll get your timing down. I don't think either one of us will try to trick each other. We'll just be playing football and see what our guys can do."
Injury Updates
The following players will not be making the trip to Canton with the Eagles because of previously reported injuries:
Receiver/kick returner Jeremy Bloom
Fullback Jason Davis
Receiver Derrick Fenner
Linebacker Chris Gocong
Safety Quintin Mikell
Running back Ryan Moats
Receiver Todd Pinkston
Cornerback Donald Strickland
Early Arrivals
Eagles chairman/CEO Jeffrey Lurie flew to Canton with eight Eagles players on Saturday morning to make it in time for the Hall of Fame induction of former Eagles defensive end Reggie White.
The following players went with Lurie and were not at the mock game:
Kicker David Akers
Tight end/long snapper Mike Barturm
Defensive end Jevon Kearse
Quarterback Donovan McNabb
Linebacker Jeremiah Trotter
Free safety Brian Dawkins
Offensive tackle Jon Runyan
Offensive tackle William Thomas
"It's a great honor and it's a compliment to Jeffrey," Reid said. "We want to make sure that Reggie's represented by the Philadelphia Eagles and that all starts with the Jeffrey Lurie."
I am still a little surprised this kid is going to get out there first ahead of McCants, GLew, hell, even Avant, or other guys who have more time in the system and more NFL experience. I'm pretty excited to see him play, but baffled how if he has performed this well up until this point, that the Vikings were so apt to dump him. Hope he impresses.
I think it's hilarious that Quentin Mikell is still out with a broken face from LJ bulldozing him.
Quote from: PhillyPhaninDC on August 06, 2006, 09:27:22 AM
I am still a little surprised this kid is going to get out there first ahead of McCants, GLew, hell, even Avant, or other guys who have more time in the system and more NFL experience. I'm pretty excited to see him play, but baffled how if he has performed this well up until this point, that the Vikings were so apt to dump him. Hope he impresses.
Avant missed a ton of camp....Baskett has more experience w/the team at this point.
Baskett is still listed as third team on the PE.Com depth chart (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/depthchart.jsp).
I don't if that signifies anything or not but I thought I'd mention it...
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
They're all mediocre at best. Does it really matter?
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
I totally trust Reid. He deserves the benefit of the doubt, especially with WRs and LBs.
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Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
I totally trust Reid. He deserves the benefit of the doubt, especially with WRs and LBs.
My sarcasm meter just blew the farg up.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 06, 2006, 10:00:00 AM
Baskett is still listed as third team on the PE.Com depth chart (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/depthchart.jsp).
I don't if that signifies anything or not but I thought I'd mention it...
I remember reading from Spads that they won't update the depth chart until before the first game. I wouldn't read into it yet.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
So you're angry that a rookie is starting a pre-season game?
God forbid they want to see him work with the 1's and not get snaps with Koy Detmer while going against cornerbacks who will be changing oil in three weeks.
He earned it.
We know what Gaffney can do. He's a solid possession receiver.
I'll be glad to see him work with the first team, and finally get a good look at him.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2006, 10:40:10 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
So you're angry that a rookie is starting a pre-season game?
God forbid they want to see him work with the 1's and not get snaps with Koy Detmer while going against cornerbacks who will be changing oil in three weeks.
He earned it.
We know what Gaffney can do. He's a solid possession receiver.
I'm angry that this team has so few receiving options that they feel the need to put an undrafted rookie in the with the ones to see what he can do. But you knew that.
Maybe Baskett has actually earned it?
Maybe he's better than all the experts on this board would believe?
Nah... that's crazy talk.
:-D
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2006, 10:40:10 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
So you're angry that a rookie is starting a pre-season game?
God forbid they want to see him work with the 1's and not get snaps with Koy Detmer while going against cornerbacks who will be changing oil in three weeks.
He earned it.
We know what Gaffney can do. He's a solid possession receiver.
I'm angry that this team has so few receiving options that they feel the need to put an undrafted rookie in the with the ones to see what he can do. But you knew that.
Come on, your just angry..........period.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:51:45 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2006, 10:40:10 AM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
So you're angry that a rookie is starting a pre-season game?
God forbid they want to see him work with the 1's and not get snaps with Koy Detmer while going against cornerbacks who will be changing oil in three weeks.
He earned it.
We know what Gaffney can do. He's a solid possession receiver.
I'm angry that this team has so few receiving options that they feel the need to put an undrafted rookie in the with the ones to see what he can do. But you knew that.
Maybe Greg Lewis should be out there. We don't know what he can do yet...
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 10:04:53 AM
Baskett is starting. Gaffney is not. This farging team...
I was thinking that Baskett would be starting in three reciever sets, it's not Brown, Gaffney, and Baskett?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 06, 2006, 11:01:23 AM
Maybe Baskett has actually earned it?
Maybe he's better than all the experts on this board would believe?
Nah... that's crazy talk.
So an undrafted rookie, who's original team traded him away is a better WR than the veterans and drafted rookies on the team and has 'earned' a starting spot? And none of that bothers you?
ALL'S WELL! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
Aren't you willing to at least give the rookies a chance to show what they have?
Or would you rather continue bemoaning the fact that the Eagles didn't get an established #1 in the offseason? You know, because that's really making good use of your time.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 06, 2006, 11:01:23 AM
Maybe Baskett has actually earned it?
Maybe he's better than all the experts on this board would believe?
Nah... that's crazy talk.
So an undrafted rookie, who's original team traded him away is a better WR than the veterans and drafted rookies on the team and has 'earned' a starting spot? And none of that bothers you?
ALL'S WELL! NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
No.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 06, 2006, 12:21:50 PM
Aren't you willing to at least give the rookies a chance to show what they have?
Or would you rather continue bemoaning the fact that the Eagles didn't get an established #1 in the offseason? You know, because that's really making good use of your time.
I would rather see my favorite team actually make any effort to improve their most glaring offensive weakness rather than relying on retreads and other teams' cast-offs. But you know, Go Hank Baskett!
put me down for more bemoaning.
I really hope all the hype that is following this guy is true, but history is not on his side. If Baskett is a starting WR on opening day it is definately a reason for concern.
considering they didnt go after a FA WR or get Walker, and pretty much assuming they wont get Lelie or Porter......knowing where we are I am excited to see Basket work with the first team tonight to see if the practice praise translates into in game.
am i dissapointed about the WR situation on this team? yeah. but am i panicking that we will could be any worse on offense than what we have been in the past? no.
and its not like its final that Basket is #2 or a starter for good now. if he stinks it up tonight and rest of pre season we did get Gaffney to be the #2 to Brown.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 06, 2006, 01:38:14 PM
I really hope all the hype that is following this guy is true, but history is not on his side. If Baskett is a starting WR on opening day it is definately a reason for concern.
I'm not on his bandwagon yet, but if the guy
performs as well as they think he can, why does it matter whether he was undrafted or not?
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 06, 2006, 12:21:50 PM
Aren't you willing to at least give the rookies a chance to show what they have?
Or would you rather continue bemoaning the fact that the Eagles didn't get an established #1 in the offseason? You know, because that's really making good use of your time.
I would rather see my favorite team actually make any effort to improve their most glaring offensive weakness rather than relying on retreads and other teams' cast-offs. But you know, Go Hank Baskett!
They did make an effort. They drafted two wide receivers, signed a free agent and acquired another player via trade.
So they didn't get an established NFL star in the offseason. So fargin what? That automatically means that the guys they got in the offseason will be busts?
If you say so...
Personally, I'm going to see how the preseason games play out first. If the players they've brought in here aren't up to snuff, then yeah, I'll be concerned. Unlike you, though, I'm at least going to wait and see how things go before I make assumptions on the success or failure of the moves they made.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 12:35:32 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 06, 2006, 12:21:50 PM
Aren't you willing to at least give the rookies a chance to show what they have?
Or would you rather continue bemoaning the fact that the Eagles didn't get an established #1 in the offseason? You know, because that's really making good use of your time.
I would rather see my favorite team actually make any effort to improve their most glaring offensive weakness rather than relying on retreads and other teams' cast-offs. But you know, Go Hank Baskett!
That's BS man.
We all would have loved to see Javon Walker here or something like that... but guess what? The shtein didn't happen. There's no point of sitting here whining about it now. We got what we got. That's it. Also... who says Baskett is a castoff? Baskett never took snap one with the Vikings so it's not as though they determined he wasn't shtein and decided to rob us of Billy McMullen.
Nobody's relying on this kid either. There's obviously been a whole lot of talk about this kid in camp so Reid's giving him a live shot to see if all the hype is warranted. What's wrong with that? It's the 1st preseason game. If he gets out there and chokes, so what... he'll fall to the bottom of the depth chart and no harm done. But if he keeps on showing signs that we've come across something good... again, what's wrong with that? Gaffney isn't much of an unknown... it's all about the knowledge of the system, which he'll get plenty of opportunities to show where he is with that anyway. He is what he is... a slot possession receiver. Avant and Bloom haven't even been on the field long enough to warrant giving either of them this shot. Baskett has impressed so far... he's earned it. It's not like the playoffs are on the line.
Spad's Daily Vomit:
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Some Things To Focus On In Tonight's Opener
August 6, 2006
CANTON, Ohio -- This is one I would like to watch with five sets of eyes. I want to see every player on every play and then rewind and watch more. It's a preseason game and the lineups will change so often, and amid the chaos the stories will unfold. Has there ever been so much intrigue and, from this perspective, interest in the first preseason game of the year? Pick a player, any player, and you have an angle here. Donovan McNabb? Obvious. Brian Westbrook? He's returning from injury. Shawn Andrews? Mr. Slim. The rookies? Don't get me started. Here are some of the things I'll be watching tonight ...
J.R. Reed is the kickoff return man to start, and I want to see his burst and hard-charging style again. Reed looked like the pre-injured Reed in training camp. A game situation is different. The tempo is just a bit faster. The hitting is live. The holes shrink much faster. Reed has his chance to take a large, large step back in this amazing story.
Is he the real McCoy? Matt McCoy is the starter at the WILL linebacker position. There is no disputing that. The coaching staff spoke highly of him in camp. Now he goes against a good offense that can hurt a defense in a variety of ways. McCoy has to get off blocks, make the right reads and tackle well. He has to play fast. Everyone agrees that McCoy is a completely different player from the rookie who hardly played last year. The Eagles think their second-round draft pick of a season ago is ready to be the man.
How is William Thomas? On and off the practice field at Lehigh, Thomas had a good week of work leading into this game. He is so important to this offense. So is the guy next to him, left guard Todd Herremans. Oakland has some juice up front. It will be a good test.
Wide receivers are, of course, an important part of the focus tonight. Hank Baskett is expected to be on the field with Reggie Brown in the two-wide receiver sets, with Jabar Gaffney as the third receiver. Then it's Greg Lewis and Darnerien McCants - big game vaults him up the depth chart, doesn't it? - and Jason Avant and Justin Jenkins.
There are a whole lot of other receivers who want time. It won't be easy getting 10 receivers game reps, but the Eagles will try to do so. They want to get a look at everybody.
The defensive line has been impressive through the summer, so let's see how it goes against the Raiders. I want to watch everybody, but I want to first focus on Darren Howard and his explosiveness, Jerome McDougle and his quickness and LaJuan Ramsey and his push inside.
I don't know how it is going to shake out up front with the roster, but the way I see defensive tackle, one or two good linemen won't make this team. So it's important that players like Sam Rayburn and Keyonta Marshall and Ramsey and Ed Jasper get some good, productive reps. No way all four of those players make this team, not with Mike Patterson, Darwin Walker and Brodrick Bunkley atop the depth chart at the moment.
The pass/run ratio will be interesting to gauge, too. Maybe we get a bit of a feel for what kind of offense Marty Mornhinweg is planning to run. I don't know. These games are 60 minutes of experiments. The coaches want to see players in certain situations. I sure would like to see the Eagles devote a series or two to the running game to give the big offensive line a chance to use its muscle.
I want to watch Winston Justice closely when he is on the field. His athletic ability is very high, and he seems to be learning quickly what Juan Castillo wants. Is Justice ready if he has to be ready?
Donovan McNabb isn't a mystery, because I think he's one of the very best quarterbacks in the league. He has some kids he's throwing to, some new players up front along the line, so I want to see his comfort level right away. I also want to see him break the huddle with 15 or more seconds left on the play clock, giving him a lot of time to get the play off. No delays of game, please.
Jobs are going to be won and lost on special teams. That's why I'm disappointed that Chris Gocong isn't playing. He may not be ready at SAM linebacker, but he can make a difference on special teams. Not tonight, though.
There is just so much to see, so much to study. The preseason, usually an exercise in drudgery until the regular season gets here, starts tonight with a ton of interest. I'll be watching everything.
Wow about Baskett. I can understand him wowing the coaches and bumping himself up to number three, but ahead of Gaffney? I don't know. Gaffney is not a world class WR, but he has produced at this level decently for years. Guess we'll have to see...
Awesome for J.R Reed. He has to have shown to be like his old self to get the tap to return the kickoffs. Good for him, hope he does well and comes back like his old self.
Like I've said, the Eagles think Gaffney has found his niche in the slot, so he won't be out there in sets with 2 WR's on the outside... but in sets with one inside and one outside, he might see some time.
Being the #3 doesn't reflect poorly on him, except that it means he's less than ideal to play the outside. Which we knew before he was signed.
QuoteHank Baskett is expected to be on the field with Reggie Brown in the two-wide receiver sets, with Jabar Gaffney as the third receiver. Then it's Greg Lewis and Darnerien McCants - big game vaults him up the depth chart, doesn't it?
If being the no. 4-5 doesn't fire Lewis up, nothing will.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 06, 2006, 04:54:09 PM
Like I've said, the Eagles think Gaffney has found his niche in the slot, so he won't be out there in sets with 2 WR's on the outside... but in sets with one inside and one outside, he might see some time.
Being the #3 doesn't reflect poorly on him, except that it means he's less than ideal to play the outside. Which we knew before he was signed.
Word.
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 04:58:59 PM
QuoteHank Baskett is expected to be on the field with Reggie Brown in the two-wide receiver sets, with Jabar Gaffney as the third receiver. Then it's Greg Lewis and Darnerien McCants - big game vaults him up the depth chart, doesn't it?
If being the no. 4-5 doesn't fire Lewis up, nothing will.
Lewis
is a 4-5. That's just what he is. So, sure... I hope he'll be fired up to be the best 4-5 he can be.
Nope, don't agree there. I like him. But I know there are more people here than not who would start Pinky over him. I just don't agree with that.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 06, 2006, 05:01:38 PM
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 04:58:59 PM
QuoteHank Baskett is expected to be on the field with Reggie Brown in the two-wide receiver sets, with Jabar Gaffney as the third receiver. Then it's Greg Lewis and Darnerien McCants - big game vaults him up the depth chart, doesn't it?
If being the no. 4-5 doesn't fire Lewis up, nothing will.
Lewis is a 4-5. That's just what he is. So, sure... I hope he'll be fired up to be the best 4-5 he can be.
Yup. I agree wholeheartedly. The problem is that a lot of fans are pissed with him because he failed last year to be an effective #2 which is beyond asinine. As long as Lewis is kept at the 3, 4, 5 level where he belongs, he can still be effective in that role.
Lewis sucks. I'd prefer to have a guy on the roster with the talent to eventually become at least a solid #2 on the team and Lewis has proven that he isn't that guy.
If it comes down to a choice between an unproven rookie and a proven 4th or 5th option, take the rookie and say goodbye to Cecil B. Turtle.
Every team has role players... and that's exactly what Lewis is... a role player. Nothing more, nothing less. People expected too much of this guy last year. That's not his fault. He can more often than not win the matchups with 3rd or 4th CB's/LB's he'll face at that level. That much he has proven he can do. What's got him in the doghouse is that he's also proven that he can't regularly win matchups against any above average CB's in this league.
I'm not a huge fan of his either, but at this point, he has a place on this team.
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 05:06:25 PM
Nope, don't agree there. I like him. But I know there are more people here than not who would start Pinky over him. I just don't agree with that.
A healthy Pinky is a much better #2 WR than Greg Lewis, and it's not even close.
Of course, Todd will probably never be healthy again, or at least not in 2006.
It's much like when an angry woman confronted Winston Churchill and said, "You're sloppy drunk!" He replied, "Yes, and you're ugly. But in the morning, I'll be sober."
Neither of them are capable of playing the #2 spot right now, and Lewis doesn't have an excuse except that he's simply not that great. How you can possibly think he could be the #3 or higher on a contending team after watching how he played last year when the team absolutely needed him to fill that role is beyond me.
Again, if it comes down to a choice between say Jason Avant & Greg Lewis, I'm keeping Avant.
Same goes for the ski bum.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 06, 2006, 05:56:49 PM
Again, if it comes down to a choice between say Jason Avant & Greg Lewis, I'm keeping Avant.
Same goes for the ski bum.
Jeremy Bloom should be on IR all year. That's the best place for him, especially if J.R. Reed is actually back.
Undrafted free agents, late round picks, mid-season free agent cuts, skiiers and castoffs.
But everything's cool. Nothing to worry about here.
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying that to me Jeremy Bloom has more upside than Lewis does, and that's why I'd reserve a roster spot for him over Lewis at this point.
Lewis really disappointed me last year. Add to the fact that he's been apparently sulking his way through training camp and it seems like a no-brainer to me.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 05:58:47 PM
Undrafted free agents, late round picks, mid-season free agent cuts, skiiers and castoffs.
But everything's cool. Nothing to worry about here.
You misspelled skiers. Other than that, I agree with you.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 05:58:47 PMBut everything's cool. Nothing to worry about here.
NOW you're acting like a TRUE fan.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 05:58:47 PM
Undrafted free agents, late round picks, mid-season free agent cuts, skiiers and castoffs.
But everything's cool. Nothing to worry about here.
On August 6th... yup.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 06, 2006, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: shorebird on August 06, 2006, 05:06:25 PM
Nope, don't agree there. I like him. But I know there are more people here than not who would start Pinky over him. I just don't agree with that.
A healthy Pinky is a much better #2 WR than Greg Lewis, and it's not even close.
Of course, Todd will probably never be healthy again, or at least not in 2006.
It's much like when an angry woman confronted Winston Churchill and said, "You're sloppy drunk!" He replied, "Yes, and you're ugly. But in the morning, I'll be sober."
Neither of them are capable of playing the #2 spot right now, and Lewis doesn't have an excuse except that he's simply not that great. How you can possibly think he could be the #3 or higher on a contending team after watching how he played last year when the team absolutely needed him to fill that role is beyond me.
Everyone sucked last year, and I want to see what any of these recievers can do with a healthy Dmac throwing to them. I'd like to see if Lewis can do what he did in the playoffs during the Superbowl year when McNabb was in a groove. I don't think you can judge him after seeing him play with guys like McMahon, or Dmac with a bruised sternum and his insides almost hanging out.
i really wanna see how well jr reed does. among the many problems we had last season our ST sucked arse. we need a quality return man who can at least gain some good field advantage and take it to the house from time to time. i thought jr reed was that man b4 he got hurt. hopefully bloom develops in this area as well.
i really liked the avant pick as a possesion WR and i really wanna see him out there. hes been a dinged up and hasnt gotten much work in but eventually i would like to see our depth chart to be brown, basket/gaffeny (seeing how that goes), and then avant.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 05:58:47 PM
Undrafted free agents, late round picks, mid-season free agent cuts, skiiers and castoffs.
But everything's cool. Nothing to worry about here.
Because 1st round picks
always are studs, right?
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2006, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 05:58:47 PM
Undrafted free agents, late round picks, mid-season free agent cuts, skiiers and castoffs.
But everything's cool. Nothing to worry about here.
Because 1st round picks always are studs, right?
Not with this team, especially with recievers. Theres a hell of a better chance for a non-drafted free agent if you go by Reids track record for drafting WR's.
he runs a slant like Fred Biletnikoff
Too early to declare Baskett a sure-fire HOF'er?
Nahh!! He's a lock.
One catch for a first down... I'm sold. Hall. Of. Fame.
Just saw him yucking it up on the sidelines with McNabb.
It says something, IMO, that he was playing with the starters. It says something even more that they pulled him along with the rest of the starters instead of leaving him out there.
(But that is incredibly accurate, I'm at least glad someone is stepping up. Even if it's this guy.)
I think Reid was really trying to boost this kids confidence by taking him out. Hopefully it works.
It was good and bad like someone said here earlier, but regardless if Reid thinks hes going to be a starter for the season, he needs game time reps more so than the next guy to take it to another level (more than Brown and Gaffney because they already are proven starters-"proven" being the word here)
One drive in my opinion was not an, "Im sold" kind of drive, but I guess to Reid it was
Quote from: reese125 on August 06, 2006, 10:49:35 PM
One drive in my opinion was not an, "Im sold" kind of drive, but I guess to Reid it was
I don't think Reid's "sold", necessarily, but with 4 more pre-season games to go, he saw a good opportunity to get the starters out of there on a positive note and work the backups (who obviously need it) more.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 06, 2006, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 06, 2006, 05:58:47 PM
Undrafted free agents, late round picks, mid-season free agent cuts, skiiers and castoffs.
But everything's cool. Nothing to worry about here.
Because 1st round picks always are studs, right?
Speaking of which, I saw Freddie is trying out with the Cowboys.
At his own request, not theirs. It's nothing.
So for those of you that actually got to see him play again tonight is he as good as the hype? How much did he actually play?
He made an excellent catch on a deep sideline ("go" route) pattern. The ball was perfectly thrown and he caught it just as he should have. He also had another slant pattern go for six or seven yards.
He looked good in the short amount of time he played.
Brown, Baskett, and McNabb were talking amonst themselves on the sideline for most of the 3rd quarter. Can't wait to get my Baskett jersey.
He caught the first pass of the game and fumbled, but got it back. But the deep catch was very nice.
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good work with your camera Phreak. your becoming a jack of all trades
:-D
I wish I took those pics.
Has your hick ass even seen a camera like that?
Nossir. I reckon I've only seen one of em pollyroid thangs. You know. The ones that envelop on thur own. The same ones I used to take nekkid pics of your sister with.
Well at least he's honest.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 11, 2006, 12:05:03 AM
Brown, Baskett, and McNabb were talking amonst themselves on the sideline for most of the 3rd quarter. Can't wait to get my Baskett jersey.
He is that good?
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 11, 2006, 02:30:25 AM
Quote from: SD_Eagle on August 11, 2006, 12:05:03 AM
Brown, Baskett, and McNabb were talking amonst themselves on the sideline for most of the 3rd quarter. Can't wait to get my Baskett jersey.
He is that good?
Man I don't even remember writing this I am about 15 beers deep, which down here is amazing to people.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 10, 2006, 11:28:12 PM
He made an excellent catch on a deep sideline ("go" route) pattern. The ball was perfectly thrown and he caught it just as he should have. He also had another slant pattern go for six or seven yards.
Did Hank make a nice
basket-catch?
not to take anything away from hank at all but that catch he made was all donovan...cant throw it any better than he did as the coverage was excellent
that said mcmullen would have dropped it
Jaws couldn't shut up about this guy during the ETN broadcast. now, i know, they are going to slobber anyone, and they did. but Jaws was crazy over the top with it. "I believe Hank Baskett will the be the sensational story of the NFL this year!" that made me sit and say, "what the farg"
what they dont realize is the more they stroke baskett the more they are saying how bad the rest of the wrs really are
is jabar gaffney still on the team??
All that is true. But IF Baskett starts and plays well this year, how sweet will that trade look.....
At this point, here is how I see the receivers with roster spots:
Absolute locks, barring IR-level injury:
Reggie Brown
Hank Baskett
Jason Avant
Likely to make it, but not definite:
Jabar Gaffney
Darnerien McCants
Needs to show something and/or get healthy, or they're toast:
Todd Pinkston
Greg Lewis
Destined to end up on IR before season begins:
Jeremy Bloom
Basically no chance:
Everyone else
on another note if hank basketts name was
say
peter williams
does he get the hype hes getting right now
Not everything's a race issue, IGY. Jesus. The kid has played well above expectations, and gave the fan base at TC something to cheer for. Which was really needed after the doom and gloom of last year. An UDRFA that makes a big splash after being traded for before he ever proved anything would be a story regardless of his race.
the other great surprises off the preseason so far:
JR Reid
Omar Gaither
Matt McCoy looking like an NFL player
Jason Avant looked like a keeper last nite.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 08:38:15 AM
what they dont realize is the more they stroke baskett the more they are saying how bad the rest of the wrs really are
is jabar gaffney still on the team??
YES!
Not everything's a race issue, IGY. Jesus
then why are you making it one
settle down dunny
I have to agree with IGY on this one. He's just saying that because Hank has a *catchy* name (pun intended), it increases his positive publicity at least 2- or 3-fold. It had nothing to do with race.
i want him to get cut just so i don't have to hear, "Baskett catch" and "Put the ball in the Baskett" all year
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 09:37:51 AM
i want him to get cut just so i don't have to hear, "Baskett catch" and "Put the ball in the Baskett" all year
Liar. You love it.
Perhaps my bad. But you couldn't have chosen a more whitebread name.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 07:56:07 AM
not to take anything away from hank at all but that catch he made was all donovan...cant throw it any better than he did as the coverage was excellent
that said mcmullen would have dropped it
WHAT? It was a great pass AND a great catch. It was not ALL Donovan. As you said the coverage was excellent. At the most Pinky would have been 50-50 catching that great pass on one of his good days. I wouldn't give the rest of the crew that good of odds.
My brother just text messaged me with, The Morningshow idiots are calling Baskett "Savior"
GREAT pass
GOOD catch
if you wanna call it a great catch cause an undrafted traning camp sensation made it then fine...but a good nfl wr makes that catch in his sleep...where as only a few qb's make that throw
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 11, 2006, 07:49:34 AM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 10, 2006, 11:28:12 PM
He made an excellent catch on a deep sideline ("go" route) pattern. The ball was perfectly thrown and he caught it just as he should have. He also had another slant pattern go for six or seven yards.
Did Hank make a nice basket-catch?
End yourself.
My brother just text messaged me with, The Morningshow idiots are calling Baskett "Savior"
they were but most of it was tongue in cheek
Sarcasm on WIPe?
Preposterousity.
im sure that comes August 25th if hes still playing this well it will be the 2nd coming of Vince Paple all over the Philly airwaves.
i think part of why andy reid is playing him so much is just to stick it to childress. just to prove that he's smarter. which if this works out like is has been, would be true.
If Baskett works out the way he looks like he might, Reid should consider renting Childress a hooker or three.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 10:35:53 AM
If Baskett works out the way he looks like he might, Reid should consider renting Childress a hooker or three.
or atleast a decent wig for his head :-D
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 09:49:54 AM
GREAT pass
GOOD catch
if you wanna call it a great catch cause an undrafted traning camp sensation made it then fine...but a good nfl wr makes that catch in his sleep...where as only a few qb's make that throw
If you want to call it a good catch because it was a UDFA that we traded for then fine.
Replay the tape and tell me that you can't think of several of our receivers that would have A) given to much room to the defender and been OB. B) not extended enough to get thier hands on the ball. C) bobbled the damn thing. D) almost made a great/good catch. All I could think was, Damn, Phreak's TC reports were right on. If the ball is near him he's gonna catch it.
Replay the tape and tell me that you can't think of several of our receivers that would have A) given to much room to the defender and been OB. B) not extended enough to get thier hands on the ball. C) bobbled the damn thing. D) almost made a great/good catch.
well in relation to the other eagle wr's it was the GOAT catch
simma down now....it was a nice catch but lets not throw a bucket of Gatorade on him just yet.
Consistency is a nice word to shoot for
exactly, he made that nice catch, but he also got muscled off a slant route and almost cost Donovan a pick
he still hasnt proven he can get open in the league either...something im on record as saying he wont be able to do
if you can get him isolated way outside he has a chance to be a good go up and get the ball guy...whether that be down the sideline or in the corner of the end zone
nice catch, but if you want to break it down even further, he barely got off the line of scrimmage.
no doubt he will have a tougher time against the better corners in the league. They play these receivers in man coverage, which I assuming they will without a deep threat, were in trouble...but we already know that
that said, LJ has a big year
Predicting failure for a player you've seen play almost two whole quarters in the NFL is kewl.
:yay
Why would you say we're in trouble? All we need is for Westbrook to stay healthy for all 16 games and Baskett and Brown to stay healthy and improve every game. No injuries to anyone else and we'll be fine. Seems simple enough to me. All we need is one miraculous season.
Great googily moogily, we're in trouble.
It was a great catch. Thats my story and I'm stickin' to it.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 11:46:18 AM
Predicting failure for a player you've seen play almost two whole quarters in the NFL is kewl.
:yay
thinking an undrafted free agent will actually contribute in his rookie year is even kewler
Quote from: Eagles 3x on August 11, 2006, 11:51:28 AM
Why would you say we're in trouble? All we need is for Westbrook to stay healthy for all 16 games and Baskett and Brown to stay healthy and improve every game. No injuries to anyone else and we'll be fine. Seems simple enough to me. All we need is one miraculous season.
Great googily moogily, we're in trouble.
It was a great catch. Thats my story and I'm stickin' to it.
You answered your own question...
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 11:46:18 AMPredicting failure for a player you've seen play almost two whole quarters in the NFL is kewl.
If you're gonna make predictions about how young-player-x will do, nevermind who he is or what position he plays, the smart money is on failure. Predicting success is foolish.
not just that but i didnt see anyone predict failure in the first place
Yeah, you're right. Expressing pessimism about a guy who went from nowhere to the cusp of starting for an NFL team as an unknown, undrafted rookie is far better than expressing excitement.
What was I thinking!?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 11:26:34 AM
he still hasnt proven he can get open in the league either...something im on record as saying he wont be able to do
Ummm... isn't this a prediction of failure? Not being able to get open = failure, does it not?
Or maybe you'd like to twist it around and say that you were actually being super-positive here?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 12:09:43 PMYeah, you're right.
Of course I am. It's foolish to predict success for first rounders, much less scrubs. Optimism is the hallmark of basic natural stupidity, especially when applied to such improbable prospects as succeeding in the NFL, or finding a funny conservative.
Great googily moogily. I can't say great googily mmogily? Thats very upsetting. Upsetting to the point of being great googily moogily upsetting. I'll have to ask IGY to help me with my ding dang it, daw gone it all expressions.
Remember a UDFA out of Hofstra (Hofsta for gods sake) that had a pretty nice career for the Jets? Is it totally impossible that it could happen in Philly?
I don't care. I'm still hoping for the best.
the eagles have had one receiver in the last ten years that has been able to get open in the league....they werent all failures even tho they also may not have been number ones...baskett has a chance to play a role on this team in being a red zone threat much the way pinky plays his role as a down the field wr
so tell me how is that preciting failure?
Dangitall, I rather like great googily moogily, though I wonder if you won't have a copyright lawyer from Google dropping by any minute to have a few words with you.
Quote from: Diomedes on August 11, 2006, 12:22:45 PM
...improbable prospects as succeeding in the NFL, or finding a funny conservative.
Come on...I have a few good ones. How about this one:
"Whats the receptionist say to everyone leaving the sperm bank?"
"Thanks for coming"
;D
Hilarious. You're the exception that proves the rule.
doesnt freezing gooey little fishies constitute child abuse to conservatives
I figure that at least if Baskett doesn't get separation, he has the skills to be the winner in the fight for the ball more often than not. That's a good trait to have in a receiver. He'll only get better if he improves his route-running or game speed.
Sarcasm & pessimism are the only permissable expressions here, FF.
Move along, now...
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 01:07:35 PM
Sarcasm & pessimism are the only permissable expressions here, FF.
Move along, now...
How about a pessimistic pun?
The Eagles are that is incredibly accurate looking in the trash Baskett for WR's!1
I just stuck a white-hot screwdriver into my eye socket.
I found it a less painful experience than reading that pun.
I look at it this way, if Baskett were a 1st or 2nd round pick and was doing this well there would be no question to his impact or his ability. He's always gonna feel as if he has something to prove since he wasn't drafted, not to mention he's gonna be able to come under the radar especially early in the season since most NFL CBs won't take him that is incredibly accurate .
I look at it this way, if Baskett were a 1st or 2nd round pick and was doing this
but what has he really done?
Cynic. Pessimist. Party pooper!
From what little we've seen so far, he's at least the new Pinkston. Anything other than that is an added bonus.
He sucks and will never amount to anything.
End of thread.
We need an "Ask Hank Baskett" subforum on :CF, just as soon as server reliability improves.
If he can be as effective as Pink was, I'd be very happy with him. Reid would likely think he's a #2 for being that good, which is a worry, but a nice one to have because it assumes big value in a young player.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 01:40:31 PM
He sucks and will never amount to anything.
That's what I said. The new Pinkston.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 11, 2006, 01:41:39 PM
We need an "Ask Hank Baskett" subforum on :CF, just as soon as server reliability improves.
Sort of a Hank Baskett "basket" if you will...
Quote from: General_Failure on August 11, 2006, 01:45:04 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 01:40:31 PM
He sucks and will never amount to anything.
That's what I said. The new Pinkston.
I was replying to Dio, not you, G_F.
And if his production matches Pinky's at Pinky's best, then yeah, I'll be happy with it this year.
Pinky in 2002 had 60 catches for almost 800 yards and 7 touchdowns.
Who wouldn't be satisfied with that from Hank?
IGY, but you knew that.
He knows who you were talking to, idiot. And if his production only ever matches Pink's best, that's fine and he should be kept.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 01:47:49 PM
Pinky in 2002 had 60 catches for almost 800 yards and 7 touchdowns.
Who wouldn't be satisfied with that from Hank?
Me. I expect 2500 yards and 16 TD's this year from him - not including his obvious 500 yards and 6 TD's in the playoffs.
ill be satisfied if he has any touchdown catches this year
Play nice, retards.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 11, 2006, 01:53:14 PM
Play nice, retards.
Don't worry - we're probably due for another period of server unavailability soon anyway, right?
How about an "Ask Hank" forum?
Set it up, PG... :yay
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 11, 2006, 01:54:10 PM
Quote from: General_Failure on August 11, 2006, 01:53:14 PM
Play nice, retards.
Don't worry - we're probably due for another period of server unavailability soon anyway, right?
Apprently our network admin has been reading here. The server gets reset every time he reads something that makes him smack his head on the keyboard repeatedly. So, yes.
Not a fan of puns, is he?
Boooo.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 01:32:29 PM
I look at it this way, if Baskett were a 1st or 2nd round pick and was doing this
but what has he really done?
You mean in the NFL? What has any rookie done?
no what has he done period
you said if he keeps doing 'this'...what is 'this' exactly
one catch in a preseason game?.....get his name chanted by some idiots at training camp?...what is 'this'
greg lewis caught a td pass in the sb which i would say is infinitely more than hank baskett has ever done and he sucks
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?
That such a flawed debating technique, IGY.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 02:10:22 PM
no what has he done period
you said if he keeps doing 'this'...what is 'this' exactly
one catch in a preseason game?.....get his name chanted by some idiots at training camp?...what is 'this'
greg lewis caught a td pass in the sb which i would say is infinitely more than hank baskett has ever done and he sucks
You weren't impressed with him at camp? He had 2 catches for 39 yards in 1 quarter against a decent NFL defense lastnight. Again, what has ANY rookie done in the NFL? I can start posting college stats if you'd like but you'll counter with the 'but that was in college' argument or 'well most of those schools were D2' even though there have been a ton of good receivers to come from D2 schools.
i don't understand why it's such a negative thing to assume an undrafted free agent rooke wide reciever won't do much for this team. i sure as hell hope he's something, but i don't think he will be, especially this season.
since when is the Cleveland Brown's defense, decent?
Billy McMullen has had a much more productive career thus far than Hank Baskett.
Therefore, we can logically assume that the McMullen for Baskett deal was a steal for the Vikings!
Goddamn that Brad Childress!1!11
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 02:14:33 PM
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?
It's shocking how little you understand.
It's shocking how little I give a shtein about you or your opinion, Dio.
Then again, no it's not.
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 02:19:38 PM
since when is the Cleveland Brown's defense, decent?
Only 10 other teams in the NFL gave up less points then they did last season, I'd certainly call that 'decent'.
in all the years of Andy Reid being here...1 wide reciever has made a positive impact in his first year, Reggie Brown.
every other wideout they have drafted, including a bomb of a 1st round pick, has needed at least one season to learn this offense.
but all of the sudden it's negative to apply logic and reasoning to what Hank Baskett is and will do this year.
But this is the NEW Andy!
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 02:24:03 PM
in all the years of Andy Reid being here...1 wide reciever has made a positive impact in his first year, Reggie Brown.
every other wideout they have drafted, including a bomb of a 1st round pick, has needed at least one season to learn this offense.
but all of the sudden it's negative to apply logic and reasoning to what Hank Baskett is and will do this year.
Hanks new nickname: The anomaly
i think we should have an "Ask Hank" forum
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 02:24:03 PM
in all the years of Andy Reid being here...1 wide reciever has made a positive impact in his first year, Reggie Brown.
every other wideout they have drafted, including a bomb of a 1st round pick, has needed at least one season to learn this offense.
but all of the sudden it's negative to apply logic and reasoning to what Hank Baskett is and will do this year.
It's not even a question of pessimism or cynicism in this forum.
It seems more to me that certain people are not only expecting him to fail but actually hoping for it. That's what I can't stomach.
What's so unreasonable about being cautiously optimistic about Baskett, or any other rookie, for that matter?
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 02:32:14 PM
i think we should have an "Ask Hank" forum
Yeah, we can call it "Hank's Basket". That would be clever as shtein.
Punmonkey?
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 11, 2006, 02:33:38 PM
Yeah, we can call it "Hank's Basket". That would be clever as shtein.
i don't get it
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 11, 2006, 02:33:38 PM
Yeah, we can call it "Hank's Basket". That would be clever as shtein.
i don't get it
Ya see, the forum would be like a virtual "basket" were we'd deposit our very well thought out questions & Hank would then reach into this "basket" to reply. We could even add a wicker background & some cool basket clip art to the forum.
(http://pbskids.org/lions/words/images/basket.gif)
I'm surprised that no one else came up with this "Ask Hank" idea.
hmmm, still doesn't work for me. how about "Hank's Forum for Answering Questions About Football and the Like" ?
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 03:02:02 PM
hmmm, still doesn't work for me. how about "Hank's Forum for Answering Questions About Football and the Like" ?
No, no, no.
You do understand that Hank's last name is "Baskett". Baskett.....basket....Baskett..basket.. get it?
nope...still not getting it. maybe it's just me, but i don't get all your voodoo wordplay.
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?
umm maybe because greg lewis as an undrafted player was also at one time getting overrated and hyped up the same way baskett is now
in training camp and preseason dont beleive everything you see and hear...especially when 99% of the trends tell you so
undrafted wr's
rookie wr's
eagle rookie wr's
eagle wr's
undrafted rookie eagle wr's
and on and on and on and on and.....
:-D Good stuff in here today.
...it puts the football in the baskett...
p.s. -im so glad its no pronounced baskette.....
Quote from: mussa on August 11, 2006, 04:43:07 PM
...it puts the football in the baskett...
p.s. -im so glad its no pronounced baskette.....
Or it gets the hose again?
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 04:34:27 PM
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?
umm maybe because greg lewis as an undrafted player was also at one time getting overrated and hyped up the same way baskett is now
in training camp and preseason dont beleive everything you see and hear...especially when 99% of the trends tell you so
undrafted wr's
rookie wr's
eagle rookie wr's
eagle wr's
undrafted rookie eagle wr's
and on and on and on and on and.....
Greg Lewis was never as hyped up as much as Baskett has been.
farg me
id farg me
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 11, 2006, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 04:34:27 PM
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?
umm maybe because greg lewis as an undrafted player was also at one time getting overrated and hyped up the same way baskett is now
in training camp and preseason dont beleive everything you see and hear...especially when 99% of the trends tell you so
undrafted wr's
rookie wr's
eagle rookie wr's
eagle wr's
undrafted rookie eagle wr's
and on and on and on and on and.....
Greg Lewis was never as hyped up as much as Baskett has been.
yes he was. everybody thought he was a step up when Pinky got hurt last year
Correct. We were wrong. He sucks.
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 11, 2006, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on August 11, 2006, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 04:34:27 PM
Why are you even comparing Greg Lewis to Baskett when you know for a fact that Lewis is nearly, if not completely, worthless?
umm maybe because greg lewis as an undrafted player was also at one time getting overrated and hyped up the same way baskett is now
in training camp and preseason dont beleive everything you see and hear...especially when 99% of the trends tell you so
undrafted wr's
rookie wr's
eagle rookie wr's
eagle wr's
undrafted rookie eagle wr's
and on and on and on and on and.....
Greg Lewis was never as hyped up as much as Baskett has been.
yes he was. everybody thought he was a step up when Pinky got hurt last year
Your right, but there was never the same type of hype that now surrounds Baskett.
Greg Lewis never had the kind of camp that Baskett has had.
Greg Lewis doesn't have the size, strength or ability that Baskett apparently does.
Greg Lewis was never more than a fourth option at best. Baskett, on the other hand, went into camp as about the 6th option yet has somehow risen to the 2nd. Again, something that Lewis never did.
And why is that? Because Greg Lewis is nothing more than a role player. He's proven that again and again.
Baskett, on the other hand, has not proven anything yet other than he has the ability to go from the bottom of the depth chart before training camp started to near the top in the space of three weeks.
But hey, let's compare Greg Lewis (who more than likely occupies Baskett's former place on the depth chart at this point) and Baskett some more. It's teh funnest.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 05:42:19 PM
Greg Lewis never had the kind of camp that Baskett has had.
Greg Lewis doesn't have the size, strength or ability that Baskett apparently does.
Greg Lewis was never more than a fourth option at best. Baskett, on the other hand, went into camp as about the 6th option yet has somehow risen to the 2nd. Again, something that Lewis never did.
And why is that? Because Greg Lewis is nothing more than a role player. He's proven that again and again.
Baskett, on the other hand, has not proven anything yet other than he has the ability to go from the bottom of the depth chart before training camp started to near the top in the space of three weeks.
But hey, let's compare Greg Lewis (who more than likely occupies Baskett's former place on the depth chart at this point) and Baskett some more. It's teh funnest.
True, not quite.
Yes, but he has a lot more speed.
Wrong. Lewis ascended to the #2 role with ease last year and kept it the whole season. He played #2 more like a true #4, but he was the #2 guy all year none the less.
Everyone's a role player. Some roles are bigger than others.
Baskett has limitations on his speed, so if he ever rounds out a route or starts dropping the tough catches, he's pretty much useless.
Why not compare them? At this point, Baskett has the edge, because he's unproven, but there's still hope. Whereas Lewis has proven himself mediocre.
He has more speed? Great! Too bad he can't get off the line to use it. And when he does somehow find his way off the line, he ends up getting pimp-slapped around.
As for the role-player retort, you knew what I meant, so cram it.
As for the speed thing, that applies to nearly ever receiver in the NFL because the cornerbacks covering them are every bit as fast.
Finally, I have no problem comparing them. What I have a problem with is someone using Lewis as an example of why Baskett will fail. Greg Lewis is a UDFA just like Baskett, so of course, Baskett is destined for failure. That kind of illogic is patently stupid and that's what Mr. IGY initially implied, FF.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 05:42:19 PM
Greg Lewis never had the kind of camp that Baskett has had.
Greg Lewis doesn't have the size, strength or ability that Baskett apparently does.
Greg Lewis was never more than a fourth option at best. Baskett, on the other hand, went into camp as about the 6th option yet has somehow risen to the 2nd. Again, something that Lewis never did.
And why is that? Because Greg Lewis is nothing more than a role player. He's proven that again and again.
Baskett, on the other hand, has not proven anything yet other than he has the ability to go from the bottom of the depth chart before training camp started to near the top in the space of three weeks.
But hey, let's compare Greg Lewis (who more than likely occupies Baskett's former place on the depth chart at this point) and Baskett some more. It's teh funnest.
Dude, before we annoint him the next Mike Quick or Harold Carmichael, lets see how he does when, you know, a defense actually prepares for him. The earliest that might happen is the 4th preseason game. More likely, it won't be until Houston.
Oh, and one other thing, Lewis ascended to the #2 spot because they didn't have anyone else who was remotely competent playing on the field. He rose there out of pure happenstance, not because he earned it.
Yep, no way you can compare the two situations at all.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 05:54:58 PM
Oh, and one other thing, Lewis ascended to the #2 spot because they didn't have anyone else who was remotely competent playing on the field. He rose there out of pure happenstance, not because he earned it.
Hank "earned" it over the likes of Greg Lewis. Wait til Houston to decide on the kid. He'll be the #2 then, you'll find out just how good or bad he is.
I never annointed him the second-coming of Christ.
I pointed out that his potential exceeds Lewis's. Am I wrong about that? Am I wrong to say that Lewis is nothing more than a 3 or 4 at best on this team?
If so, please enlighten me.
The draft experts at about.com (http://football.about.com/od/nationalfootballleague/p/hankbaskett.htm) projected Baskett as a first round player. :sly
I don't think you can make that call yet, sorry, Rome. When the defenses start designing a gameplan is the only time we, as fans, can really get an idea of how good or bad a player is. Na Brown always looked good in August.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 11, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
I don't think you can make that call yet, sorry, Rome. When the defenses start designing a gameplan is the only time we, as fans, can really get an idea of how good or bad a player is. Na Brown always looked good in August.
Na Brown was a good practice player he never did shtein during the preseason games.
baskett hasn't accomplished shtein yet, so to compare him to glewis83 is ridiculous. glewis83 owns him right now. im pulling for baskett to go up on glewis in week one though....so farg you all
You know, I'm gonna be a risk-taker and put my "rep" on the line here.
I'm gonna say that Baskett will end up being better than Greg Lewis.
I mean, I'd hate for my "rep" to go to hell in a handbaskett over this, but what the hey, right?
You're only 16, you don't have a rep yet.
Quote from: MadMarchHare on August 11, 2006, 05:54:31 PM
Dude, before we annoint him the next Mike Quick or Harold Carmichael, lets see how he does when, you know, a defense actually prepares for him. The earliest that might happen is the 4th preseason game. More likely, it won't be until Houston.
That's what I'm saying. If he has a year like Pinky's best then next year everyone will be calling him the next TO!
I haven't seen last nights game yet, I can't wait to see that catch. The pics look good, Baskett was nicely extended,but I'm almost inclined to agree with Igy's first assumption that Dmac is putting the ball on the money, hitting the spot, throwing that laser. But, that's what he's supposed to do against teams that will most likely be sub .500 teams. Both of them should be playing great.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 11, 2006, 06:35:04 PM
You're only 16, you don't have a rep yet.
I have ties that are older than that.
Armani, too... :o
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 06:34:17 PM
I mean, I'd hate for my "rep" to go to hell in a handbaskett over this, but what the hey, right?
At this rate, I dont think any puns will be left by the time regular season rolls around. Or Monday.
Baskett is much bigger and stronger than Greg Lewis. He also jumps much higher than Greg Lewis does. The only real comparison between the two is they are both undrafted. I don't know Greg Lewis' stats on Illinois either, but I doubt they were as good as Baskett's. Baskett had a damn good season for NM last season.
I don't think Baskett will be a star in this league, but I think he'll be a solid contributor for this team.
Quote from: Bunkley78 on August 11, 2006, 06:56:18 PM
I don't know Greg Lewis' stats on Illinois either, but I doubt they were as good as Baskett's.
All I remember was he scored 3 TDs vs Middle Tennesee State, and Kurt Kittner was the QB.
Without coaches tape, you just can't evaluate him against a team which hasn't prepared specifically to play him. And a zesty team at that. Until then, he merely has greater potential than Lewis.
Besides, saying he'll be better than Lewis is a pretty low hurdle, don't you think?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 11, 2006, 06:34:17 PM
You know, I'm gonna be a risk-taker and put my "rep" on the line here.
I'm gonna say that Baskett will end up being better than Greg Lewis.
I mean, I'd hate for my "rep" to go to hell in a handbaskett over this, but what the hey, right?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Greg Lewis never had the kind of camp that Baskett has had.
who says?...the people chanting baskett!...baskett!...or the media who you 99.9% of the time pay no attention to
Greg Lewis doesn't have the size, strength or ability that Baskett apparently does.
and baskett doesnt have the speed that g lew has
Greg Lewis was never more than a fourth option at best. Baskett, on the other hand, went into camp as about the 6th option yet has somehow risen to the 2nd. Again, something that Lewis never did.
are you kidding...lewis was the eagles #2 wr with a bullet over that scab pinky
And why is that? Because Greg Lewis is nothing more than a role player. He's proven that again and again.
g lew is a role palyer and hank baskett is a nfl receiver because why?
Baskett, on the other hand, has not proven anything yet other than he has the ability to go from the bottom of the depth chart before training camp started to near the top in the space of three weeks.
so hes passed an injured pinky...an incompetant gaffney..and a cfl player in lewis.....im sure his momma proud right about now
But hey, let's compare Greg Lewis (who more than likely occupies Baskett's former place on the depth chart at this point) and Baskett some more. It's teh funnest.
come nov-dec theres equal amounts chance that lewis is ahead of baskett on the depth chart as vice a versa
but im quite sure you were on g lews payroll when he was the flava of the month just as youre on basketts scroat right now....thats the best comparison of them all
Here's an idea...
How about we stop comparing Baskett to Lewis and stop lamenting the fact that he's a UDFA and just wait and see what he can do?
He's obviously doing well and breaking the mold of what we're used to seeing with Eagles young WRs. Let's just hope he helps the team and isn't a Na Brown or Freddie Mitch.
He's obviously doing well and breaking the mold of what we're used to seeing with Eagles young WRs. Let's just hope he helps the team and isn't a Na Brown or Freddie Mitch.
but i think the point we are trying to make is at this point how is he really any different from training camp sensation na brown
You're right. It's similar.
But Baskett situation just has a different feeling to it. Just watching him and hearing how he handles himself impresses me.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 11, 2006, 11:47:28 PM
but i think the point we are trying to make is at this point how is he really any different from training camp sensation na brown
Na caught a touchdown pass in a playoff game.
You mean I shouldn't make a reservation for Canton for Baskett's HOF inauguration yet? ???
No, by all means, lock in the low rate now!
i love the smell of Hank Baskett talk in the morning.
smells like....victory.
Victory smells like my ass cheese, then.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 11, 2006, 11:50:55 PM
You're right. It's similar.
But Baskett situation just has a different feeling to it. Just watching him and hearing how he handles himself impresses me.
Homer.
i am already petitioning canton to start working on the Hank Baskett wing, sure fire HOF. in fact they should change the rules for him and just put him in now.
the next 2 weeks he should go against credible CBs and get more play time. Lets see then what he can really do..
im in the middle of a fantasy draft and hank baskett is not on the draft list damitt!
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 12, 2006, 12:39:51 PM
im in the middle of a fantasy draft and hank baskett is not on the draft list damitt!
I know, man. It's an awful feeling.
At least I have dibbs on him in the CFFL Keeper :-D
I thought this quote from NJ.com was funny:
QuoteQuote of the Day came from a member of the media after yet another nice grab by rookie free agent Hank Baskett. "He's like T.O. without the B.S." ...
Comparing Baskett to T.O. in any way except saying that they'r both "big-bodied receivers" and both of the decidedly black persuasion is absolutely ricockulous.
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 15, 2006, 11:44:50 AM
I thought this quote from NJ.com was funny:
QuoteQuote of the Day came from a member of the media after yet another nice grab by rookie free agent Hank Baskett. "He's like T.O. without the B.S." ...
spadaro
You suck at quoting. Maybe you should use the IGY bold method.
maybe, or maybe i should just punch you in the face
The IGY bold method sucks and I really don't understand it. It takes longer to quote someone using that method and most of the time I have no idea who he's quoting.
Quote from: SunMoTzu on August 15, 2006, 12:41:32 PM
maybe, or maybe i should just punch you in the face
It would have to be a sucker punch, because you know I would kick your ass like Hugh kicked T.O.'s.
The IGY bold method sucks and I really don't understand it. It takes longer to quote someone using that method and most of the time I have no idea who he's quoting. Yeah, really.
It takes longer to quote someone using that method and most of the time I have no idea who he's quoting.
yeah but when i son people i save them the embarrassment of being identified
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2006, 12:44:46 PM
It takes longer to quote someone using that method and most of the time I have no idea who he's quoting.
yeah but when i son people i save them the embarrassment of being identified
You're a humanitarian and hero to most.
Quote from: Tomahawk on August 15, 2006, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2006, 12:44:46 PM
It takes longer to quote someone using that method and most of the time I have no idea who he's quoting.
yeah but when i son people i save them the embarrassment of being identified
You're a humanitarian and hero to most.
And the pendulum on Sean Taylor's ballzack to everyone else.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 15, 2006, 12:44:46 PM
It takes longer to quote someone using that method and most of the time I have no idea who he's quoting.
yeah but when i son people i save them the embarrassment of being identified
which is more annoying, because i have to scroll back up and see who it was, or worse yet, go back a page
Once you finally click on the correct page, the server will have stopped responding.
did Hank cure cancer yet?
twice
Guys... you've got to understand that we have our very own receiving angel!
Just imagine how awesome Hank Baskett would be if he was being coached by Gibbs and his QB was Brett Favre.
Wow. He'd have a 3000-yard season, without a doubt.
In three games.
Why, are they taking him out at halftime?
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/MEDKFCFILEJL/baskett-080506.jpg)
He kicked a child that punned at him. Also, he said "HAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!"
(http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Sep-08-Thu-2005/photos/2unlv.jpg)
See, what most people don't know about that catch is that Hank actually ran down the sideline like that!
hahaha..what a magician
there is no hysteria in this thread. none.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 16, 2006, 09:06:07 PM
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/MEDKFCFILEJL/baskett-080506.jpg)
shortly after this picture was taken, Baskett killed Chuck Norris 8)
:-D Nice.
Quote from: Seabiscuit36 on August 17, 2006, 12:12:37 AM
shortly after this picture was taken, Baskett killed Chuck Norris 8)
Then Chuck Norris arose from the dead and tore Hank's heart right out of his chest.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2006, 07:30:07 AM
Then Chuck Norris arose from the dead and tore Hank's heart right out of his chest.
Shortly after, Norris heaved it into the air, and Baskett made a beautiful leaping catch on a fly route.
Make it stop.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2006, 11:15:54 AM
Hank makes me a complete Baskett case!
I can't wait for Hank to score a TD after juking a DB. The Daily News headline will be:
"Baskett Weaving 101"
Quote from: Beermonkey on August 17, 2006, 11:20:23 AM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2006, 11:15:54 AM
Hank makes me a complete Baskett case!
I can't wait for Hank to score a TD after juking a DB. The Daily News headline will be:
"Baskett Weaving 101"
Or how about on Sportscenter after a game when McNabb and Baskett just got done humiliating the Cowboys or taterskins, and Stuart Scott says during a TD pass highlight, "A tisket, a tasket, McNabb just put it in the Baskett!"
That would be so rad.
Alright, now I hope Baskett blows out his knee.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 12:43:52 PM
Alright, now I hope Baskett blows out his knee.
welcome aboard.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 12:43:52 PM
Alright, now I hope Baskett blows out his knee.
Out of the frying pan and into the Fryar?
(http://www.thegoal.com/players/football/fryer_irving/fryer.JPEG)
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 12:43:52 PM
Alright, now I hope Baskett blows out his knee.
Would they then cart him off in a Stokes baskett?
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 12:43:52 PM
Alright, now I hope Baskett blows out his knee.
Then the WR core would be a total baskett case.
Nothing worse than re-punning.
re-punning>purposely dropping unfunny puns in an attempt to be funny
purposely dropping unfunny puns in an attempt to be funny > hyperbolic exaggeration of one's own knowledge
my knowledge cannot be exaggerated
Thanks for proving my point.
It's like saying Harvey the Rabbit was 7 feet tall when really he was 6 feet tall.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 17, 2006, 02:46:49 PM
It's like saying Harvey the Rabbit was 7 feet tall when really he was 6 feet tall.
Ha! Well put.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2006, 12:54:49 PM
purposely dropping unfunny puns in an attempt to be funny > hyperbolic exaggeration of one's own knowledge
using back to back synonyms is an ignominy to ones own knowledge :P
you love that word
he wants to chill in igy's hyperbolic chamber...he just doesnt know it yet
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 03:49:37 PM
he wants to chill in igy's hyperbolic chamber...he just doesnt know it yet
How similar is that to TO's hyperbaric chamber?
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2006, 03:55:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 03:49:37 PM
he wants to chill in igy's hyperbolic chamber...he just doesnt know it yet
How similar is that to TO's hyperbaric chamber?
They're identical except that after sleeping in igy's hyperbolic chamber you wake up hating white linebackers and craving Sean Taylor's man parts.
edit
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 17, 2006, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 17, 2006, 03:55:23 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 17, 2006, 03:49:37 PM
he wants to chill in igy's hyperbolic chamber...he just doesnt know it yet
How similar is that to TO's hyperbaric chamber?
They're identical except that after sleeping in igy's hyperbolic chamber you wake up hating white linebackers and craving Sean Taylor's man parts.
:-D
This thread has gone to Hell in a Hank Baskett.
you are all horribly unfunny.
Hank the Tank was stellar last night. :yay
matty has officially been promoted from the rank of Captain Obvious to Major Obvious.
Well done, sir.
:yay
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 18, 2006, 12:24:16 PM
matty has officially been promoted from the rank of Captain Obvious to Major Obvious.
Well done, sir.
:yay
Sweet. The best part about someone getting promoted is we all get to put our drinks on his tab.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on August 18, 2006, 02:12:27 PM
Sweet. The best part about someone getting promoted is we all get to put our drinks on his tab.
And savage punches and stabbings to collar bones. GAUNTLET BITCHES!
One of the nerds on yahoo fantasy football had his list of sleepers of whatever and used one of the horrible puns in this thread.
He said something like, a ticket , a taskett, you should draft hank baskett...
Journalism at its very bestest.
hank baskett is god
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 16, 2006, 09:06:07 PM
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/MEDKFCFILEJL/baskett-080506.jpg)
(http://www.femmefan.com/site/images/lookerspics/lookers3/Donte-Stallworth.jpg)
Like Hank... If I could be like Hank.
Ninja death crew WR's. nice.
Baskett was on the radio tonight talking with Merrill Reese. Reese asked him how he was able to get this offense down so quick. Baskett said that during mini camp he took a ton of notes about all of the plays. When minicamp is over the players have to give their playbooks back until they get them again at training camp. Baskett said during that time period he had all of these plays and notes written down and he studied them all the time. So when training camp started he already had a lot of time put into it. I couldnt help but think that all these years the difference was the coaches taking the fargin playbooks back in between camps so no other teams got their hands on it... and the rookie WR's were too dumb to copy some shtein down before hand. damn you Na Brown.
Quote from: MURP on September 05, 2006, 11:17:55 PM
I couldnt help but think that all these years the difference was the coaches taking the fargin playbooks back in between camps so no other teams got their hands on it
I bet Nate Wayne had something to do with that.
Shawn Barber, Sassy. You know - the guy who you berated for leaving the Eagles. :P
.. um no ones heard of a copy machine?..
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2006, 11:38:09 PM
Shawn Barber, Sassy. You know - the guy who you berated for leaving the Eagles. :P
:-D I didn't berate him. I just let him know how I felt with a poorly made t-shirt.
And I thought it was Nate Wayne who lost his playbook. ???
Quote from: L-ong-B-each-I-ggle on September 05, 2006, 11:53:48 PM
.. um no ones heard of a copy machine?..
Dude, they're football players not scientists.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on September 06, 2006, 12:49:52 AM
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on September 05, 2006, 11:38:09 PM
Shawn Barber, Sassy. You know - the guy who you berated for leaving the Eagles. :P
:-D I didn't berate him. I just let him know how I felt with a poorly made t-shirt.
And I thought it was Nate Wayne who lost his playbook. ???
Nah, it was Barber. And he had it stolen from his car. Someone broke his window, jacked the playbook and then police found it in a sewer somewhere.
Or even librarians.
Billy McMullen had a key catch for a 1st down on 3rd down on the Vikings' 2nd TD drive of the day.
Hank Baskett did nothing.
McMullen 1, Baskett 0
i was thinking that last night
actually i was thinking
bill mcmullen viking 1
billy mcmullen eagle -12
please 1 catch, how many did Pinky have??
oh yeah he was cut :-D
So, McMullen > Baskett > Pinkston > Gaffney
Quote from: General_Failure on September 12, 2006, 12:28:11 PM
So, McMullen > Baskett > Pinkston > Gaffney
More like...
Greg Lewis > McMullen > Thrash > Baskett > Gaffney > McCants > Pinkston
More like...
Shut the farg up > Greg Lewis > McMullen > Thrash > Baskett > Gaffney > McCants > Pinkston > Keep running into this lame ass ">" jargon
Hey, at least you kept the guys I listed in the same order. Thanks, bra.
anytime, sis
ZinG-o!
You got me good, you farger!
Quote from: FFatPatt on September 12, 2006, 06:43:30 PM
You got me good, you farger!
Misquoted, but appreciated none the less.
Quote from: Wingspan on September 12, 2006, 04:29:56 PM
More like...
Shut the farg up > Greg Lewis > McMullen > Thrash > Baskett > Gaffney > McCants > Pinkston > Keep running into this lame ass ">" jargon
You should have worked a gay joke in their somewhere. Otherwise, okay work. C-.
22 receptions, (17 for 1st down), 464 yards total, 21 yards per catch average, and 2 (very farging long) TDs.
For reference: Billy McMullen
23 rec (14 for 1st down), 307 yards total, 13.3 yards per catch average, 2 TDs.
I'm hysterical for Hank Baskett.
Quote from: Diomedes on January 02, 2007, 09:44:03 PM
22 receptions, (17 for 1st down), 464 yards total, 21 yards per catch average, and 2 (very farging long) TDs.
Those really aren't bad stats for a rookie receiver. But I'm sure someone will come along any minute to tell me I'm wrong.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on January 02, 2007, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: Diomedes on January 02, 2007, 09:44:03 PM
22 receptions, (17 for 1st down), 464 yards total, 21 yards per catch average, and 2 (very farging long) TDs.
Those really aren't bad stats for a rookie receiver. But I'm sure someone will come along any minute to tell me I'm wrong.
You're wrong. Look at Randy Moss' rookie season. that is incredibly accurate.
Hank Baskett sucks, he can't get open in the NFL.
He ain't no Randy Moss. But he's a lot better than McMullen
Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL.
A decent 3rd/4th WR until "the next best thing" comes along. I guess.
I think it would be hard-pressed to complain about Baskett's production considering he was an undrafted rookie FA. And considering that the Eagles traded McMullen for him and that he outproduced McMullen makes it a good trade in and of itself.
Hank is a nice, big target that can work the middle of the field. For a 3rd or 4th WR, he's pretty good.
He might not be able to get open consistantly, but for an undrafted free agent, he's done pretty well.
He seemed to get open fairly regularly with A.J. throwing him the ball.
I think that says it all. Starting A.J. & Hank = Super Bowl win(s).
CLOSE THREAD.
I think it would be hard-pressed to complain about Baskett's production considering he was an undrafted rookie FA
the dallas game alone was enough of a contribution for him to have had a successful year...in the long run tho they must upgrade the #3 wr position...mcmullen is fine for a four and wont ever been anything more than that...before the meaningless atlanta game he had 15 catches in 15 games....not gonna get it done at the three...not even close
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2007, 08:33:32 AM
mcmullen is fine for a four and wont ever been anything more than that
Freudian slip?
I think the Eagles are fine (and actually fine, not Andy's version) at WR if they re-sign Stallworth and L.J.
Some combination of Avant/Baskett/Lewis is fine for a 3rd/4th/5th receiver combo IF they have two good starters and a pass-catching TE.
Some combination of Avant/Baskett/Lewis
NO
NO
NO
i dont give a shtein what they do with the 4 and 5 slots...they can put twenty hank basketts there if they want but the #3 slot has to be upgraded...in general and especially on an andy reid team...a #3 wr is basically a starter in the league now and even more so on the eagles...they need more than a one catch per game guy there
i feel you on stallworth and brown as the top two...its the best theyve ever had and is a valid nfl combo and upgrading the #3 wr position is by no means at the top of the list of upgrades....but i dont want greg lewis on the team and i dont want hank baskett seeing the field anymore...they need some talent at the #3 spot
avant ill take a wait and see approach as i cant get a good read on him...but right now he seems to be a much shorter version of baskett
Garcia, along with the WCO system, makes mediocre WRs look better than they are.
Lewis is pretty awful but with Tapeh seeing the field more the #3 is on the field less. IF they continue to run the ball I don't have a problem with this receiving corps. Lewis contributes a little and gets open enough. Avant/Baskett are throwaway players but can fill the 4/5 spots fine. If Stallworth comes back, this offense doesn't need anything other than a change of pace back with two knees.
Quote from: rjs246 on January 03, 2007, 09:13:41 AM
If Stallworth comes back, this offense doesn't need anything other than a change of pace back with two knees.
I'd settle for one.
Quote from: ice grillin you on January 03, 2007, 08:45:30 AM
Some combination of Avant/Baskett/Lewis
NO
NO
NO
i dont give a shtein what they do with the 4 and 5 slots...they can put twenty hank basketts there if they want but the #3 slot has to be upgraded...in general and especially on an andy reid team...a #3 wr is basically a starter in the league now and even more so on the eagles...they need more than a one catch per game guy there
i feel you on stallworth and brown as the top two...its the best theyve ever had and is a valid nfl combo and upgrading the #3 wr position is by no means at the top of the list of upgrades....but i dont want greg lewis on the team and i dont want hank baskett seeing the field anymore...they need some talent at the #3 spot
avant ill take a wait and see approach as i cant get a good read on him...but right now he seems to be a much shorter version of baskett
IGY you're retarded. I've tried explaining this to you before.
Stallworth-#1
Brown-#2
Westbrook-#3
LJ Smith-#4
These are the top four options for McNabb/Garcia on any given pass play. The #3 WR, no matter who it was, was going to be the 5th, 4th option at best, on the field. They weren't going to get huge numbers. I called it earlier in the year because of this, I said Baskett would probably wind up with around 20-25 catches because the #3 WR wasn't going to get as much looks as in years past in this offense.
As long as they re-sign Stallworth, the WR core will be perfect for next year. Westbrook will continue to be a priority in the passing game over the #3 WR, and if LJ Smith is back, he will be too. If he isn't back, then expect whoever the #3 WR is, yes even if it's Hank "He can't get open in the NFL" Baskett, to produce more in that role next year.
RJS also hada good point with Tapeh being on the field more and the Eagles running the ball. I can only hope they continue doing this next year.
didnt read
didnt read
Here's a breakdown:
Stallworth-#1
Brown-#2
Westbrook-#3
LJ Smith-#4
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on January 03, 2007, 03:40:23 PM
didnt read
Here's a breakdown:
Stallworth-#1
Brown-#2
Westbrook-#3
LJ Smith-#4
Thank you.
no one reads you...because you're a douche and we hope you die.
hahaha
I don't hope s/he dies. Just post less. Like most of you.
Also, Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL.
the eagles will lose all three division road games....fact
Quote from: SunMo on January 03, 2007, 05:05:41 PM
no one reads you...because you're a douche and we hope you die.
I'm glad you removed IGY's schlong from your mouth long enough to type that. Do you sit on his lap during the games?
Yes, I called you gay!11.1! and you called me a douche!11/11oeneevoene :yay
Why wouldn't LJ be back next season? He's still under contract for the 2007 season.
Quote from: Eaglez on January 03, 2007, 10:33:40 PM
Why wouldn't LJ be back next season? He's still under contract for the 2007 season.
Really? Everyone around here talks like his contract is up. Well at least that's not a problem for next year.
I'm hoping he gets traded to the Skins for a first day pick.
That's because when a player is vocal about not getting a contract extension when they want it the natural inclination is to think that they won't be back. Obviously.
Baskett wins Rookie of the week award (http://www.nfl.com/rookies/vote)
Munson appears in 3...2...1....
Hysteria!
From Dave's latest jizz (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=66140):
QuoteTwice, of course, he scored touchdowns on plays of 80-plus yards, so it isn't like he is a Slowsky.
To quote Chris Walken in "The Continental"... Wowee wow wow wow.
Quote from: FFatPatt on March 14, 2007, 09:14:23 AM
From Dave's latest jizz (http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=66140):
I tried, I just can't get past a couple of sentances before ::)
Quote from: mutton head wroteThe philosophy is clear as daylight now that the jewels of free agency, as it were, have been picked. The Eagles came into the off-season focused on retaining the players they really wanted to keep -- Juqua Thomas, Quintin Mikell, William James -- and they planned on largely staying out of the high-stakes game of free agency.
They can't really believe anyone's swallowing that trite.
Swallowing it is a lot different from believing it.
hes saying two different things here...
The philosophy is clear as daylight now that the jewels of free agency, as it were, have been picked.
1. the eagles would have liked to been involved but all the good players are gone
The Eagles came into the off-season focused on retaining the players they really wanted to keep -- Juqua Thomas, Quintin Mikell, William James -- and they planned on largely staying out of the high-stakes game of free agency.
2. from the start the eagles never intended to be involved in the free agent market
I think he's saying that all along, they didn't plan to get any of the "jewels" of the FA market, but only now that they're gone without the Eagles making a move is that strategy outwardly clear.
Either way... they obviously planned to largely stand pat with a team that took miracles to finish 11-7 last year and never truly threatened to beat a top-tier team or win it all.
yeah i can see that...and if thats what he meant he shouldnt have even brought up the jewels of free agency...just say its pretty clear what the eagles strategy was all along
Yeah, he's trying to have his cake and eat it too... I don't think he has a clue what the FO was trying to do this offseason and he's even said as much. With all the crap with Reid's sons I don't think they even had a clue what they were wanting to do this offseason other than try and re-sign Stallworth, and that was a half hearted attempt at best.
QuoteWith his rookie year behind him, wide receiver Hank Baskett is working on fine-tuning his game and his body. Away from football, he's keeping busy with his own charity golf tournament as well as playing on the Eagles off-season basketball team. He talks about that and more in this week's Catching Up With ...
PE.com: Talk about participating in the off-season conditioning program.
Hank Baskett: "It's been awesome. The young guys, we had to come in a little bit before all of the veterans. It's just amazing to be in an NFL off-season because now I feel like I'm getting my body right for the NFL. Before, you're still transitioning between college and the NFL and trying to figure out what to do. But here these guys are the experts so they know how to get your body right for a long off-season and an even longer season.
"They don't leave one muscle unlooked. You'll hit everything in the weight room. Some days you're crawling out of here. But it's all worth it to get your body right.
WR Hank Baskett
"Being here with all the guys makes workouts fun. Before you work out and after you work out, just sitting in there and joking around with the guys in the locker room. That's what makes this job so much fun, being able to hang around these guys every day."
PE.com: How can your work now help you down the road?
HB: "Our job is fine-tuning the little details every day and that's what we come up here and do. We work on something new every day, get the workout in and then do our extra stuff on our own trying to fine tune those things."
PE.com: What are some of the things you're working on?
HB: "The NFL is still new to me. My initial footwork and my quickness and my release off the line of scrimmage, that's what I've been working on. I'm also working on being fluid in my routes."
PE.com: How would you assess your rookie season?
HB: "I'd say it was pretty good, but there's still a lot I need to improve on. Last year I was kind of thrown into the fire but it's something I'm very fortunate to have experienced because a lot of rookies don't get that, especially undrafted players, they don't get opportunities like that. I just made the most of it and hopefully the coaches saw what I did last year and hopefully by working on the things I couldn't do last year puts me in a good position for a lot of playing time this year."
PE.com: How do you stay hungry?
HB: "I've been that way all my life. My dad raised me like that. The day you stop working is the day someone else is working. Someone is always trying to take my job like I'm trying to always take someone else's job. You always have to be willing to work for it."
PE.com: Talk about some of the non-football things you have done this off-season.
HB: "I got to go to the Hoover Dam with the crew from the Eagles Television Network. I'm going home next week for my first charity golf tournament, Teed Off About Child Abuse Golf Tournament in Clovis, New Mexico so I'm excited about that. My dad has had the tournament for five or six years and now I'm taking it over under my name. It goes to a very good cause. A bunch of the players have helped me with things. Greg Lewis is going to be out there.
"Back here in Philly I've been playing on the Eagles off-season basketball team. That's a lot of fun because I miss basketball."
PE.com: Talk about what's ahead with the draft, mini-camp, etc.
HB: "The challenges that you don't know, that you can't see. That's what comes with our job. There's always that "what if." What if they bring in someone else tomorrow, what if they don't? You have to take each day day-by-day and just come in here and do whatever you can to get better every day and see what happens."
(http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/FLBPNPBEAOEN/PE0N6267.JPG)
"I recall Central Park in Fall..."
Is that a calculator watch?
whats with the phones or walkie talkies?
That's the camera remote in their hands.
thats precious
What's with all these gay pictures of the players? What happened to just standing there and smiling(or not smiling) and having your picture taken?
Dave and/or Chris McPherson must have said, "Hey, let's do some joking around shots for PE.com! It'll be super and not at all gay!"
Well AJ looks pretty lost in his picture, he probably SHOULD have done something gay.
I like the goofy pics.
QuoteSour Play of the Week No. 1: Philadelphia led St. Louis 14-0 with a minute remaining in the first half, and faced third-and-8 on its own 10. Les Mouflons can surrender turf without worry: The only thing that can go wrong with a minute remaining and 90 yards to the goal line is for someone to get behind the secondary. Hank Baskett -- the Hank Baskett -- gets behind the secondary, no safety anywhere in sight. Ninety-yard touchdown and the rout is on.
Haha. TMQ rules.
LINK (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/080909&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab3pos1)
Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL!
2 catches. Just calm down.
If he does it against Dallas or Pittsburg, I'll be impressed.
Does what? Catches 2 balls? It's not like he had some sort of magical moment where he beat his man and made moves to find the endzone. He was left uncovered, caught the ball and ran in a straight line for 70 yards.
Get 100 yards, or just gets open for 3-4 catches and is somewhat productive.
He is what he is - a good 4th receiver that defenses will occasionally forget to cover.
Quote from: shorebird on September 10, 2008, 07:02:56 AM
If he does it against Dallas or Pittsburg, I'll be impressed.
YOu forget his long TD against Dallas?
This was the only highlight that I was able to see from the game. All the coverage they had over here for games and there virtually no highlights of this game.
Its funny in both fantasy leagues I am in Hank Baskett was picked up right away.
2 reasons:
1) people dont watch Eagles games and dont know the players
2) people see a "hot" symbol next to the players name, they race to the "add player" button
Remember Clevelands Steve Heiden from a year or 2 ago (?).....say hello to Hank Baskett
so....Kendra Wilkinson huh
Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL.
he really cant...unless hes playing det or the rams...but the kid catches everything near him
Have you ever admitted you were wrong?
have you ever watched a game?
more game watching and less box score reading would benefit you greatly in the football threads
No doubt...pay my bar tab or Dish bill and I'll watch 'em all. I'm not lucky enough to live in Philly.
Nevertheless..you were wrong on Hank and you're the only one who doesn't know it.
does he have excellent hands yes...is he tough in traffic yes...has he ever gotten open in the nfl of course...did he have a nice game yesterday sure...but if you watched the games you would notice that he doesnt get open very often and rarely ever on plays that dont break down or get extended by mcnabb
and i dont even care if you disagree or tell me im wrong IF you watched the actual games...but a box score game thread reader calling me out is laughable
Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL.
Quote from: BigEd76 on September 22, 2008, 04:19:58 PM
so....Kendra Wilkinson huh
He's fargin her or something?
according to PerezHomo and other gossip sites, yeah
whose kendra wilkinson?
She's a Playboy bimbo. She's as ugly as a bag full of aborted puppies too. Totally fake, bit titted, skinny white funhole. Oh, and she's an Eagles fan too when she isn't cheering for the Chargers.
Her momma was an Eagles cheerleader back in the day. Probably got run up in by Jaws and the gang.
and baskett is hittin it?
Wonder how Hef feels that one of his whores is gettin her catchers mitt beat up by someone else?
according to wwtd.com Hank is engaged to her, Good job. I'd hit that shtein all the way to china.
Hank Baskett can't get any Playmate Hoyda.
(http://www.eonline.com/static/on/shows/girlsnextdoor/images/gnd_980x340_vid.jpg)
She's the gutter slut on the left. And the bitch in the middle would get it until I ran out of come.
those are three different people?
lol
All white people look the same, I know.
and yet he was so close at not even coming close to a girl like her. If he wasn't signed as an UDFA or stayed with the Vikings then his entire love life would be changed entirely.
Hank is a lucky dude.
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 06:09:19 PM
does he have excellent hands yes...is he tough in traffic yes...has he ever gotten open in the nfl of course...did he have a nice game yesterday sure...but if you watched the games you would notice that he doesnt get open very often and rarely ever on plays that dont break down or get extended by mcnabb
and i dont even care if you disagree or tell me im wrong IF you watched the actual games...but a box score game thread reader calling me out is laughable
Man, I haven't rewatched the game yet, but he had 8 catches against a pretty damn good Pittsburg D. And yeah, I remember a couple of times he was pretty wide open.
I'm not calling him the next Jerry Rice, but to say he "doesnt get open very often and rarely ever on plays that dont break down", is just you trying to cover your ass. He was open as anything yesterday. It looked to me that the D was keying on the pimp. Baskett was finding the gaps in the zone and making some decent moves on slant patterns.
I mean cmon' give the dude a little credit. Maybe he's starting to feel confident. He'll never have the speed to be an elite reciever, but he can get open.
she's like Jenna Jameson with a horrible laugh
Quote from: shorebird on September 22, 2008, 07:57:17 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 06:09:19 PM
does he have excellent hands yes...is he tough in traffic yes...has he ever gotten open in the nfl of course...did he have a nice game yesterday sure...but if you watched the games you would notice that he doesnt get open very often and rarely ever on plays that dont break down or get extended by mcnabb
and i dont even care if you disagree or tell me im wrong IF you watched the actual games...but a box score game thread reader calling me out is laughable
Man, I haven't rewatched the game yet, but he had 8 catches against a pretty damn good Pittsburg D. And yeah, I remember a couple of times he was pretty wide open.
I'm not calling him the next Jerry Rice, but to say he "doesnt get open very often and rarely ever on plays that dont break down", is just you trying to cover your ass. He was open as anything yesterday. It looked to me that the D was keying on the pimp. Baskett was finding the gaps in the zone and making some decent moves on slant patterns.
I mean cmon' give the dude a little credit. Maybe he's starting to feel confident. He'll never have the speed to be an elite reciever, but he can get open.
cover my ass on what?...you might live to try and "bust" people for being wrong on message boards but i dont think that way...i call em like i see em i really could care less if im wrong on a player...its happened before and it will happen again...
btw i did re watch it and got to watch the game in person where you can see the whole field and youre wrong....obviously any wr who has played in the nfl gets open sometimes...but in general he has a big problem seperating from guys at this level...and if you had read my post you would have seen that i did give him credit for having very good hands and making tough catches...when he gets open its almost always because of the scheme the line gave 5 a ton of time or the play broke down...hes better than worthless guys like greg lewis and has turned into a decent complementary wideout but he doesnt beat guys one on one much
Baskett's a nice #4 receiver and he could be handy as a jump ball guy in the end zone if they had a quarterback who could actually throw that pass.
Let's not get our cocks all sticky over him, though.
Quote from: Rome on September 22, 2008, 07:33:53 PM
She's a Playboy bimbo. She's as ugly as a bag full of aborted puppies too. Totally fake, bit titted, skinny white funhole. Oh, and she's an Eagles fan too when she isn't cheering for the Chargers.
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff288/dragonzak_23/BreastEnhancedKendraWilkinson.jpg)
ewwww yucky
she's the least attractive of the 3 Hef girlfriends IMO
Right. Just so we're clear then.
Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL.
Townsend was out yesterday, Ike Taylor sucks. Mcfadden sucks, Hank did a good job getting open against LB's. Hank isnt a great player by any stretch but he did his job yesterday after lebeau clearly wanted Desean out of the game
Here's Kendra without the blonde hair. Frankly I think she's the hottest, albeit the least tolerable, of Hef's girls but that isn't saying much. She's a workout freak, an idiot, a sex fiend and a sports fan. 3 out of 4 ain't bad...
(http://www.wwtdd.com/ul/12431-kendra_wil_brown_3_big.jpg)
She'd get It, most of you are Romes
yeah i was just about to post that as a totally useless human being designed for the pure purpose of being sexually objectified she is friggin awesome. :o
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 08:09:41 PM
cover my ass on what?...you might live to try and "bust" people for being wrong on message boards but i dont think that way...i call em like i see em i really could care less if im wrong on a player...its happened before and it will happen again...
I don't live to try and bust anyone, but you make it too easy. I love the way people like you who were at the game think no one else at home can see anything because we were watching on TV. Like you zone in on Baskett every play. Gosh, I guess if anyone wants to know anything, we can just ask you because
you were there!! He's been getting open, period.
You said the same thing last year about Curtis and he ended up leading the team in receiving.
Baskett has twelve catches with a TD in three games. Eight of 'em came against a good Pittsburg defense, but he can't get open on his own.
And when you say bullcrap like
Quotewhen he gets open its almost always because of the scheme the line gave 5 a ton of time or the play broke down
this, yes, it's you trying to cover your ass because you can't admit when your wrong.
As for the Bunny, those come farg me eyes make my putter flutter. I'd dive in that shtein face first, but it's plain to see my standards are way lower than the rest of :CF's posters.
I'd bang the living shtein out of Kendra
The difference with Baskett this year is he isn't luggin an extra 25 lbs. around. He was noticeably faster at camp and it's carried over to the season.
Man, everytime I see your avatar I almost do what I did the first time and try to kill the friggen' bug.
Quote from: shorebird on September 22, 2008, 08:45:22 PM
Man, everytime I see your avatar I almost do what I did the first time and try to kill the friggen' bug.
4th person to say that = Mission accomplished
Quote from: shorebird on September 22, 2008, 08:38:39 PM
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 08:09:41 PM
cover my ass on what?...you might live to try and "bust" people for being wrong on message boards but i dont think that way...i call em like i see em i really could care less if im wrong on a player...its happened before and it will happen again...
I don't live to try and bust anyone, but you make it too easy. I love the way people like you who were at the game think no one else at home can see anything because we were watching on TV. Like you zone in on Baskett every play. Gosh, I guess if anyone wants to know anything, we can just ask you because you were there!!
He's been getting open, period.
You said the same thing last year about Curtis and he ended up leading the team in receiving.
never said anything of the sort about curtis...hes not a number 1 wr is what i said about him...baskett has trouble getting open in the league...which is why he went undrafted and is a 4th wr not a 1 or 2...your obsession with trying to prove me wrong is clouding your opinion...i would suggest taking my penis out of your eye so you can get a better view of the games
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 08:57:47 PM
your obsession with trying to prove me wrong is clouding your opinion.
Obsession? Hardly, I don't have to try and prove you wrong, you do a fine job all by yourself.
Quote from: Diomedes on September 22, 2008, 05:54:09 PM
Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL.
This is all it took to get you started.
Your obsession with having to be right about everything clouds your judgment. Baskett isn't Jerry Rice, but he has just had the best stretch of games in his career. He's getting better, like SD said. Just be quiet with your constant droning about him not being able to get open even after he's proven he can.
Holly is about 80 times more desirable than Kendra.
Kendra would be really hot with a ball-gag.
As for Curtis.......
Quote from: shorebird on April 01, 2007, 01:37:13 PM
Curtis put up numbers better than Lewis has as a no.3 behind two all pro's. He's much better far as I'm concerened. He seems quicker, like he gets down the field faster. He catches more TD's. He's been playing with Bulger, and I can't wait to see how he does with Dmac throwing to him. I think he can walk in and play as good as Brown. I look for around 65-70 catches and around 8-9 td's.
You should see the crap I got for those comments. (http://www.concretefield.com/forum/index.php?topic=19562.140)
Quote from: ice grillin you on September 22, 2008, 06:09:19 PM
does he have excellent hands yes...is he tough in traffic yes...has he ever gotten open in the nfl of course...did he have a nice game yesterday sure...but if you watched the games you would notice that he doesnt get open very often and rarely ever on plays that dont break down or get extended by mcnabb
and i dont even care if you disagree or tell me im wrong IF you watched the actual games...but a box score game thread reader calling me out is laughable
it's more than laughable, it's hilarious....because he's right.
You know what - arguing about what "getting open" means and whether or not he did or did not get open is a pointless semantics argument. (Surprisingly I wasn't involved - that's my specialty)
Baskett made some huge catches in critical 3rd down situations this season. I think that makes him worthy of being the starting slot receiver on this team.
I'm gonna say it. With DeSean in the mix now, and once Curtis and Brown are healthy, I like this WR corps as a whole more than I have since Andy Reid came on board.
Jackson and Brown on the outside with Curtis working the slot is a respectable group. It isn't Boldin, Fitzgerald and Johnson, but it's a good group. Add in situational good-hands receivers like Baskett and Avant and it's a really solid group.
Baskett as a starter, though, is awful.
See, this is what I don't get - a slot receiver is supposed to go through the middle and make tough catches in traffic for first downs. Isn't that what Baskett has been doing so well?
just because the Eagles were able to exploit one defender in one game in the slot doesnt mean chalk it up as a given every week
Baskett has hands but does not run good routes. A quicker corner will play up on him and can read him too easy and jump the ball. You put Curtis in, they play back a little. Im sure they will mix it up though regardless
I think Kendra should be on the sidelines, it will distract the other team
Hank made some catches but what's with the jump and catch on all of them.
BTW. T.O. also spanked Kendra :-*
Quote from: King Cole on September 22, 2008, 07:52:09 PM
and yet he was so close at not even coming close to a girl like her. If he wasn't signed as an UDFA or stayed with the Vikings then his entire love life would be changed entirely.
Hank is a lucky dude.
yeah, if he had stayed in Minnesota he'd be boning Prince.
straight from the retards mouth...
Quotehiiiiii just wanna let yall know that i am not engaged! if i was id be very happy though n i wouldnt hide it..hahahahaha!!! rumors are sooooooooo fargin funny. yaa trickk yaaaaaa lololol!! Love is a beautiful thing n i think the world needs more of it. lol..
this chick used to have a blog on the EMB until everyone started calling her a whore and chased her away. good times.
On the plus side, there's bound to be more openings for English teachers. Surely the older ones are killing themselves after reading stuff like that.
Quote from: SD_Eagle on September 22, 2008, 08:43:03 PM
I'd bang the living shtein out of Kendra
The difference with Baskett this year is he isn't luggin an extra 25 lbs. around. He was noticeably faster at camp and it's carried over to the season.
Agreed on all counts.
hank has more catches and yards than TO
Quote from: phattymatty on September 23, 2008, 03:06:11 PM
straight from the retards mouth...
Quotehiiiiii just wanna let yall know that i am not engaged! if i was id be very happy though n i wouldnt hide it..hahahahaha! rumors are sooooooooo fargin funny. yaa trickk yaaaaaa lololol!! Love is a beautiful thing n i think the world needs more of it. lol..
this chick used to have a blog on the EMB until everyone started calling her a whore and chased her away. good times.
god help us.
Quote from: BobbyT on September 23, 2008, 02:03:06 PM
Hank made some catches but what's with the jump and catch on all of them.
BTW. T.O. also spanked Kendra :-*
How the hell are all these people boning Hef's woman? Also, from what little I've seen of The Girls Next Door, I'm shocked Kendra isn't in hardcore porn yet
yet
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillygossip/Hank_Baskett_and_Kendra_Wilkinson_engaged.html
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r54/mick3772/bump.gif)
first comment under the story...
Maybe another oj trial?
haha
ha
QuoteAs hot is she is you'd think she could land a reciever who could catch
Hef cleaned house. The cute one left for Criss Angel and he got rid of the old one. Now he's dating twin 19-yr olds. Awesome.
(http://images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20081009/425.shannons.mugshot.100908.jpg)
oops.....I mean....
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2008/10/11/gal_twinswithhef2.jpg)
Douchebaguettes?
Valtrex for everyone!
Nah, he had a pacemaker put in his scrotum.
HYSTERIA
From Deadspin:
QuoteDelightfully dim Playmate Kendra Wilkinson is giving her fiancee, Eagles' wide receiver Hank Baskett, a good indication of what kind of headaches he'll have to suffer through the rest of his life once they become legally married and bound together forever.
And ever. And ever.
Wilkinson appeared on Fox's "Best Damn Sports Show's" podcast yesterday and between her usual giggle fits, addressed the following topics:
• Reveals that at a recent Eagles Christmas party she asked the Eagles owner, Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb to throw more passes to her fiancé, Hank Baskett and asked them to sign him for another year.
• She wonders why Kevin Curtis gets more balls thrown his way than Hank, going so far as to say that anytime Kevin touches the ball, nothing happens. But when Hank touches the ball, things happen.
• She has suggested end zone celebrations to Hank, one of which was to have Hank re-enact their engagement in the end zone by getting down on one knee and "proposing" to the ball.
• Says that Hank "blows her kisses" after every catch.
Oh and she also compares Hank's playing style to Plaxico Burress. She's a fantastic publicist.
The interview is long and may result in you banging your head against the wall multiple times. Listen to it if you so choose. Somebody should really give poor Hank a Kendra intervention before it's too late.
Kendra Wilkinson Interview [Fox Sports]
Most important WR's to the Eagles in last night's game:
1. Jason Avant - Mr. 3rd Down
2a. Kevin Curtis - TD set the pace
2b. DeSean Jackson - teh troof
4. Greg Lewis - HOW DO YOU LEAVE GREG LEWIS OPEN IN THE END ZONE?!?
5. Braylon Edwards - He's pretty good. Might have been a problem on any other team.
6. Hank Baskett
7. Donte' Stallworth - I loved the boos after he caught a pass. Nice form, home crowd.
8. Reggie Brown - farg you, douchebustface.
Some good comments followed
QuoteBy a show of hands, how many Eagles fans would take her playcalling over Andy Reid's?
QuoteThat would be the gayest touchdown celebration ever. And I'm counting that time Brady Quinn scored and actually had sex with another man in the end zone.
QuoteIf given the chance with Kendra, I, like Andy Reid last night, would have an equally messy, embarrassing two-minute drill.
I've crapped turds that have more brains then her.
Quote from: FastFreddie on December 16, 2008, 04:11:54 PM
Most important WR's to the Eagles in last night's game:
1. Jason Avant - Mr. 3rd Down
2a. Kevin Curtis - TD set the pace
2b. DeSean Jackson - teh troof
4. Greg Lewis - HOW DO YOU LEAVE GREG LEWIS OPEN IN THE END ZONE?!?
5. Braylon Edwards - He's pretty good. Might have been a problem on any other team.
6. Hank Baskett
7. Donte' Stallworth - I loved the boos after he caught a pass. Nice form, home crowd.
8. Reggie Brown - farg you, douchebustface.
Reggie Brown's absence was more important than a #8 ranking. It's like having an extra player on the field when Brown is benched, because Brown is invisible whether he's on or off the field.
Fun Fact: Brown's contract runs through the 2014 season.
I can't believe Cheggie didn't get a Pro Bowl spot.
Hank Baskett can't get open in the NFL.
I can't help myself.
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 16, 2008, 05:46:25 PM
Fun Fact: Brown's contract runs through the 2014 season.
High five?
Quote from: QB Eagles on December 16, 2008, 05:46:25 PM
Fun Fact: Brown's contract runs through the 2014 season.
So he wasn't benched for refusing to sign a contract extension
he was benched for accepting one
He was benched because Greg Lewis, Jason Avant, and Hank Baskett are more valuable to the team than he is.
He sprained his MCL on Monday, and is questionable for this week.
Jumping a fence?
No, he hurt hisself getting open in practice.
For the record, I would break myself off in Kendra's caboose.
Making her cry in pain would be worth it. Otherwise, pass.
Quote from: rjs246 on December 17, 2008, 09:56:38 AMFor the record, I would break myself off in Kendra's caboose.
I'm starting to think that maybe you're an assman.
Your powers of perception serve you well.
He can just sense when a ditch really wants to be dug.
(http://media.philly.com/images/010408eagles1.jpg)
Where did her snoobs go?
She tucked them in her belt.
ahhh...the half tucked in gangsta look...I get it.
chick is such a friggin goofball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyGmMfBygJ8&e (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyGmMfBygJ8&e)
I cant wait to get my invite
Snoop Dogg is one cool ass muthafarga'.
QuoteIn a video interview on the team's Web site, Baskett said the Eagles have an advantage over other teams because they can throw five different talented receivers at defenses.
"When you have just one receiver, yeah that one receiver can make a lot of plays, but in the NFL, injuries happen," Baskett said. "What if you put all your eggs in one basket and that big-play receiver gets hurt? Then what? Then it's a widespread panic."
Baskett listed the team's five receivers -- DeSean Jackson, Kevin Curtis, Reggie Brown, Jason Avant and himself -- and described what each player brings to the table.
"That's five dangerous weapons right there that you don't know what to do with," he said. "You can't gameplan all five of us."
And finally, he said the Birds' receiving corps is among the best in the NFL.
"I would definitely say our recievers stack amongst the best in the league. Some teams that they say have great receivers, they have one receiver. That's not great receivers. That's a great receiver," Baskett said. "... When you got a mixed group of guys that can fill every one of those different categories, that helps out because if one goes down, you have a guy that can come in, as we did last year, and still make things happen."
unreal...why is it that all the below average WR's in the NFL need to talk shtein and completely out of their ass? Baskett has a better shot at calling Heff up and asking to be The Boy Next Door than being a threat at WR for any team
Baskett's next job will be to take over for Spadaro.
Gotta admire a guy who doesn't let facts like stats or his severe lack of talent get in the way of his beliefs.
Hank dropped the "eggs in a basket" line.
if the eagles get another good wr hank could very well be out of a job...whats he gonna say?
He'll probably start by crying into his girlfriend's boobs. Then he'll get angry the first hundred times someone tells him "har har, I guess the Eagles really didn't want to put all their eggs in one basket!" After that, maybe a backpack tour of Europe to find himself... an NFLE team.
I hear those packpack tours are really exceptionally packy. Sounds boring.
There's always the chance to see some boobs and gore, or getting turned into a werewolf.
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Baskett listed the team's five receivers -- DeSean Jackson, Kevin Curtis, Reggie Brown, Jason Avant and himself -- and described what each player brings to the table.
"That's five dangerous weapons right there that you don't know what to do with," he said. "You can't gameplan all five of us."
"I would definitely say our recievers stack amongst the best in the league. quote]
Well, say bye bye to Baskett, he's gotta' fail his next piss test. The man is on something gooooooooood.
To be fair, he is partially correct. Andy Reid has no idea what to do with his receivers.
Quote from: JackStraw on April 08, 2009, 08:02:08 PM
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Is that the dude who stars on House now?
David Naughton...b actor and Dr.Pepper shill. Baskett should have hands like that.
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I love that movie....
Quote from: JackStraw on April 08, 2009, 08:02:08 PM
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See, kids... going blind isn't the only bad thing that can happen.
rfa baskett resigned to a one year pact
OK, will everyone stop bitching about not having a #1 receiver?
Whatever - let me know when he wants to renegotiate
Quote from: Tomahawk on April 23, 2009, 05:18:18 PM
Whatever - let me know when he wants to renegotiate
Jesus Christ man, he just signed a contract. Nobody's going to remember to remind you in ten days!
Hank 'n the boobs this past weekend (http://www.vegasnews.com/7499/kendra-wilkinson-kicks-off-memorial-day-weekend-with-holly-madison-at-wet-republic.html)
Quote from: BigEd76 on May 25, 2009, 11:07:13 PM
Hank 'n the boobs this past weekend (http://www.vegasnews.com/7499/kendra-wilkinson-kicks-off-memorial-day-weekend-with-holly-madison-at-wet-republic.html)
I'm not the least bit jealous. Nope, not one bit.
I couldn't be any less jealous of Hank Baskett in the female department. Kendra's body was certainly made for penetration, but I don't have the slightest idea how he manages to spend more than 5 consecutive seconds around her without his dong in her butt. Idiocy is intolerable.
theres some slammin ass girls that always tend to give off a sexy vibe know matter what they do, Kendra Wilinson is not one of them. Her body is beyond sick, but when she talks for more than 5 seconds you want to donkey kick her teeth in
hope that helped
i dont even think her body is sick....she has blatantly fake tits and no ass....shes a dime a dozen when it comes to bodies
I could give a rats ass if they're fake or not...Ill take him real or fake cause whens she naked you shouldnt care either... unless your mds gay
and when was the last time a playboy model didnt have an ass...not quite sure what the hell youre looking at
Hate fake tits-- real is the only way to fly. On a side note, it's entirely possible that I have more muscle tone than Hank....he might want to think about hitting the gym a little more and spending time in the pool a little less.
one question--why do you hater fake tits?
fake boobs have come a long long way that majority of the time you cant even tell there fake and they feel real as hell. Its a win win and I bet if your wife got them you would be a changed man. Hurry up Zan-- get involved
I'm not a big fan of cosmetic surgery, in general. And I haven't felt a pair of fake ones that even come close to emulating the real thing.
267-854-3488....thats my wifes number.
Ill tell her you'll be calling
Quote from: reese125 on May 27, 2009, 10:31:06 AM
267-854-3488....thats my wifes number.
Ill tell her you'll be calling
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Quote from: rjs246 on May 27, 2009, 09:28:54 AM
I couldn't be any less jealous of Hank Baskett in the female department. Kendra's body was certainly made for penetration, but I don't have the slightest idea how he manages to spend more than 5 consecutive seconds around her without his dong in her butt. Idiocy is intolerable.
Word.
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2009, 10:04:23 AM
i dont even think her body is sick....she has blatantly fake tits and no ass....shes a dime a dozen when it comes to bodies
translation: she's not black
Quote from: ice grillin you on May 27, 2009, 10:04:23 AM
i dont even think her body is sick....she has blatantly fake tits and no ass....shes a dime a dozen when it comes to bodies
this. there is nothing about her that's special. she's got the body of a 12 year old asian boy with some fake tits that don't match her body. i see dozens of girls that look just like her whenever i venture down to la. big effin deal.
skinny ain't sexy.
Kendra is not attractive in the slightest. Some fake boobs are nice, but hers are awful. Her bleached hair is stringy and nasty, and she's an annoying buffoon to boot.
http://www.eonline.com/on/shows/kendra/index.jsp
get yer Hank wallpapers
For real, Hank?
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Dude, he was undrafted. He is of very averagish ability for an NFL receiver.
Yet, he had two TD's of 80+ yards one year. He's banging a plastic chick that probably takes it in all holes.
Considering the hand he's been dealt, he's living the dream.
he's actually getting more than 5 minutes air time on this show
probably more than he'll get this season
Kendra's knocked up. yay Hank
I bet it's not his
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 10, 2009, 10:46:58 AM
Kendra's knocked up. yay Hank
let's see how excited he is about this in about 5 years when he's out of the league, she's back to being a nobody and starts banging tommy lee.
Maybe she already is. I guess we'll find out when they circumcise the umbilical cord.
he married that plastic woman (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20288138,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines)
Three months before she's found with Joselio.
i don't know which is worse.
kendra was banging hef's 80 yr old crank for a couple years in exchange for a better life.
or
baskett marrying her in the same house she used to whore herself out in.
i wonder if at any point prior to the ceremony if hef walked up to hank and said something to the effect of "i got her all warmed up for ya."
Maybe Hef would have said that if that whole "girlfriends" thing was anything more than a corporate branding sham.
The only women that Hef has farged in the last five years are the ones who happen to be Playboy shareholders.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on June 28, 2009, 05:16:58 PM
i don't know which is worse.
kendra was banging hef's 80 yr old crank for a couple years in exchange for a better life.
or
baskett marrying her in the same house she used to whore herself out in.
i wonder if at any point prior to the ceremony if hef walked up to hank and said something to the effect of "better get some penicillin."