Jesus Christ almighty... WTF!
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
QuotePOSTED 11:25 p.m. EDT, July 27, 2006
BUNKLEY BUSTED
Profootballtalk.com has learned that unsigned Eagles first-round draft pick Brodrick Bunkley has been arrested for having a loaded handgun on the dashboard of his car.
The arrest was made by the Delaware River Port Authority on one of the bridges connecting Pennsylvania to New Jersey.
Bunkley was the fourteenth overall pick in the 2006 draft. He currently is unsigned even though the team opened camp earlier this week. The major sticking point reportedly has been the length of the deal -- the team wants six years, and Bunkley's agent, Gary Wichard, will agree only to a five-year term.
::)
If he had a license, it's not a big deal at all. Even if he didn't it's bad, but not nearly as bad as the other shtein that has gone on with other players this offseason. Being in Philly, the crime capital of the country pretty much, maybe he just wanted to feel safe.
I'll reserve judgement until there are more details.
great way to start things off.
i think he wanted to scare mcdougle and eliminate competition on the line.
License or not, driving across the bridge with a handgun ON YOUR fargING DASHBOARD proves that steroids make you stupid.
@ MURP...
I edited the original post to reflect the word "allegedly" because none of this has been confirmed.
So, how many million does that knock off the contract price?
Maybe, just maybe, he needs to get his stupid ass into camp.
Maybe he was going out to pick up Madden 2007 from Wal-Mart.
PFT updated it to say that it happened
at least a week ago!!QuoteBUNKLEY BUST NEWS TO EAGLES
Profootballtalk.com has caught wind of strong rumors in Philly that unsigned Eagles first-round draft pick Brodrick Bunkley has been arrested for having a loaded handgun on the dashboard of his car.
The arrest, which per the rumors was made by the Delaware River Port Authority on one of the bridges connecting Pennsylvania to New Jersey, happened at least a week ago. An effort was made to get the charges dropped quietly, but prosecutors (we're told) have refused to do so.
Meanwhile, early word out of the Eagles organization is that they haven't heard of any arrest. In response, our source for the rumor says that official news of the charges won't break until Friday.
Bunkley was the fourteenth overall pick in the 2006 draft. He currently is unsigned even though the team opened camp earlier this week. The major sticking point reportedly has been the length of the deal -- the team wants six years, and Bunkley's agent, Gary Wichard, will agree only to a five-year term.
Quote from: Father Demon on July 28, 2006, 12:02:21 AM
License or not, driving across the bridge with a handgun ON YOUR fargING DASHBOARD proves that steroids make you stupid.
This is a guy who could just barely qualify to stay in school at FSU. It's a wonder he can look into the mirror in the morning and understand that there's not a man in there who looks like him.
Have I ever mentioned that I hate professional athletes?
Bunkley could have the brain the size of a peanut, if he can get to the QB and blow up plays then I really don't care.
Quote from: QB Eagles on July 28, 2006, 12:06:20 AM
Maybe he was going out to pick up Madden 2007 from Wal-Mart.
well played.
Good news. Exactly what I wanted to hear. :yay
Guess what? He better take the 6yrs and he better start talking to Andy.
Go Criminoles.
Dumb farg. God damnit.
310 pound dudes definitely need to be carrying loaded guns. You know, for protection.
This angers me to no end. farging dumbshtein farghead wannabe gangster athletes.
WTF is he doing with a gun? I mean, you got a gun on your dash, you're generally trying to let people know you've got a gun..right? What the hell do you need to do that for? Was the guy waving it at motorists who piss him off? Trying to get laid by some ghetto trash whore who thinks violent scumbags are hot?
Cut him.
Yeah, but he's OUR stupid steroid junkie.
Who give's a shtein. Sign the guy already.
I am disappointed that no one has taken his combine photo and done a photochop on it yet.
Slackers.
McDougle tells Bunkley he's missing critical part of camphttp://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/15142108.htm
Quote...defensive end Jerome McDougle, the Eagles' most recent previous rookie to miss a week of camp, said yesterday he had just spoken with Bunkley.
"I think it's real important [to be present for the early work]," said McDougle, drafted 15th overall in 2003. "The best advice I gave him was, 'Just stay in shape, just really stay into it.' You're really missing a lot of critical camp time, a time to jell with all your teammates, a time to kind of get your legs up under you, get that contact. You know, you can't make up for that contact....
per McDougle, "yo better bring some
heat wit ya, cause we be kickin ass".... I guess Bunkley misunderstood.
Bunkley was planning a hit on Mcdougle to finish the job.
All i can say is what a moron, like RJS said your 315 pounds, look the THE THING and you still need a gun, let alone on your dashboard!
Let's make a deal with the skins, cowfarts, and Giants. We'll launch Bunkley into the sun, if...
- The skins attach Taylor to Bunkley's back.
- The cowturds shove T.O. up Taylor's ass.
- The Giants shove the whole pack o' morons inside Eli's vagina.
Sounds fair to me.
I'll buy a raffle ticket for the rights to press the "launch" button.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 28, 2006, 08:52:12 AM
I'll buy a raffle ticket for the rights to press the "launch" button.
Don't bother buying one through normal channels. The raffle's rigged a la Eagles ticket sales. Only way to have a chance to win is buy your ticket through RazorGator.
Quote from: FFatPatt on July 28, 2006, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on July 28, 2006, 08:52:12 AM
I'll buy a raffle ticket for the rights to press the "launch" button.
Don't bother buying one through normal channels. The raffle's rigged a la Eagles ticket sales. Only way to have a chance to win is buy your ticket through RazorGator.
nice :-D
That would have been funnier if you just said "tickets available through RazorGator."
if this is true....i could care less if this guy ever signs.
i really care less and less about pro athletes each passing day
Quote from: Wingspan on July 28, 2006, 09:01:33 AM
if this is true....i could care less if this guy ever signs.
i really care less and less about pro athletes each passing day
In.
this is the worst thing that could have happened
say hello to a lot more reno mahes chris gocongs and darwin walkers in the future and less broderick bunkleys
now we know why the negotiations have turned so sour in the last week
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:05:43 AMsay hello to a lot more reno mahes chris gocongs and darwin walkers in the future and less broderick bunkleys
fine with me. gun toting dirtbags need not apply.
Yeah, that's the other problem. This team doesn't need thugs and criminals, but it sure as shtein doesn't need any more boyscouts. This won't help that.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:05:43 AM
this is the worst thing that could have happened
say hello to a lot more reno mahes chris gocongs and darwin walkers in the future and less broderick bunkleys
huh? So the Eagles are going to trade out of the first round from now on?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:05:43 AM
this is the worst thing that could have happened
say hello to a lot more reno mahes chris gocongs and darwin walkers in the future and less broderick bunkleys
now we know why the negotiations have turned so sour in the last week
I don't remember there ever being a mention of any criminal history with Bunk that would have kept them from taking him.
Maybe you mean we'll see more part-asians? Walker looks like he has some in him.
gun toting dirtbag who can ball up>flower and puppy loving morman worshipper who sucks
Quote from: Beermonkey on July 28, 2006, 09:11:32 AMMaybe you mean we'll see more part-asians? Walker looks like he has some in him.
Ha!
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:05:43 AMsay hello to a lot more reno mahes chris gocongs and darwin walkers in the future and less broderick bunkleys
i'll take the mahes, walkers, and gocongs over the bunkleys of the world any day of the week.
you know why?
the the mahes, walkers, and gocongs are the ones of that group you mentioned that have actually signed their contracts and not managaged to get themself arrested.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:11:36 AM
gun toting dirtbag who can ball up>flower and puppy loving morman worshipper who sucks
If you're talking about class war, sure. If you're talking about football player on the Philadelphia Eagles, I disagree.
I don't cheer for gun toting dirtbags.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:05:43 AM
this is the worst thing that could have happened
say hello to a lot more reno mahes chris gocongs and darwin walkers in the future and less broderick bunkleys
now we know why the negotiations have turned so sour in the last week
he's not signing because he confused a prison sentence (5-year) with his NFL contract (6-year)
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:11:36 AM
gun toting dirtbag who can ball up>flower and puppy loving morman worshipper who sucks
We have no idea if Bunkley can "ball up" at this level.
And what's wrong with flowers and puppies, assface?
huh? So the Eagles are going to trade out of the first round from now on?
no but they will eliminate a lot of talent from their drafts boards...more than they already do now...this year with bunkley and justice was very promising...incidents like this will send reid back to the stone age
put it like this...id rather have a coke filled team of hooligans like the cowboys and have multiple superbowls than have byu nfl style and win 10 games a year the 'right way'
its a friggin football team...i dont care if they are mass murderers as long as they help the eagles
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:15:43 AM
huh? So the Eagles are going to trade out of the first round from now on?
no but they will eliminate a lot of talent from their drafts boards...more than they already do now...this year with bunkley and justice was very promising...incidents like this will send reid back to the stone age
put it like this...id rather have a coke filled team of hooligans like the cowboys and have multiple superbowls than have byu nfl style and win 10 games a year the 'right way'
its a friggin football team...i dont care if they are mass murderers as long as they help the eagles
soon we'll have crack whores and strippers as cheerleaders too >:D
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:15:43 AMput it like this...id rather have a coke filled team of hooligans like the cowboys and have multiple superbowls than have byu nfl style and win 10 games a year the 'right way'
Then go root for the cowboys. I'm stuck with this goddamned team for the rest of my life, and I can't stand rooting for shteinbags like TO, or gun toting wanna be thugs like Bunkley. Stupid farg belongs on a corner getting shot at by other shteinheads, not in an Eagles jersey.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:15:43 AM
put it like this...id rather have a coke filled team of hooligans like the cowboys and have multiple superbowls than have byu nfl style and win 10 games a year the 'right way'
its a friggin football team...i dont care if they are mass murderers as long as they help the eagles
Every time I think I have read the stupidest thing possible, IGY steps up to prove me wrong.
IGY, your going to the extremes again. Every player is an individual and Reid looks at it that way, which is obvious by his actions over the years. To make blanket statements about what Reid will do one way or the other as far as personel decisions is a waste of time. We knew from day one that Reid was about "character" guys and yet that has deviated here and there. Buckhalter was in the weed car years ago, missed practices etc. and is still a Reid favorite. McDougle had an arrest on his record and Reid didnt think it was a serious thing. Winston Justice had obvious past character issues and it didnt stop them from targeting him in the FIRST Round let along getting a steal in the second. Andy Hall got a DUI and was still on the team for a while after that. Jeff Garcia has a DUI on his record, yet Reid went out and grabbed him this offseason. To dis Andy Reid and play the card that all guys coming to the team are BYU choir boys who cant play football is misleading at best.
reid already likes the soft guys...this isnt gonna help
is that better
so now your theory is that only thugs can win superbowls?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:15:43 AM
put it like this...id rather have a coke filled team of hooligans like the cowboys and have multiple superbowls than have byu nfl style and win 10 games a year the 'right way'
its a friggin football team...i dont care if they are mass murderers as long as they help the eagles
well bunkley isnt helping the eagles right now is he?
no, he was allegedly arrested and has yet to have serious contract negotiations. he is not on the practice field.
MURP makes a good point. Reid is not unreasonable. But I have to say igy is probably right that episodes like this only reinforce Reid's natural aversion to anyone who isn't lily white pure as the driven snow. That might mean that Reid will be less able to objectively evaluate talent in criminals...but that's fine with me.
He can't evaluate a WR or LB to save his life anyway. Might as well throw criminals in that group.
so now your theory is that only thugs can win superbowls?
no but soft players definitely dont...they need more trotters and coles on this team
the most important thing TO brought to the eagles (in the good times) was not his talent it was his attitude it changed the whole aura of the team...its something that reid has never had/allowed on his team...an over the top shtein talking bust you in the face attitude...they need more of that...and you dont need to be a thug to have that in you
oh one more thing
sapp>mamula
no shtein.
Quoteover the top shtein talking bust you in the face attitude...they need more of that
I agree, but these are two totally different things. Being a criminal has nothing to do with that attitude. TO doesnt have any criminal record we know of, yet he was like that. Bunkley is not a trash talking in your face psycho, yet he possibly has a criminal record.
note that one thing has nothing to do with the other.
has this been confirmed? I find it hard to believe that the media in this city wouldnt have been all over this.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2006, 09:44:07 AM
has this been confirmed? I find it hard to believe that the media in this city wouldnt have been all over this.
No, not yet confirmed.
apparently the morning crew dopes were pimping it as the eagles knew about it and have been trying to cover it up ::)
if it happened the eagles definitely have known about it
as i said its most likely the reason the negotiations have gone so bad in the last week...ie reid going public with his anger over whats happening
If I were the Eagles, trying to sign this guy, and I knew this had happened, I'd keep that little nugget to myself (and away from the press), if only as a tool for getting the guy signed.
"sign for six"
"no"
"we know about the gun"
"..."
jesus people calm down. it hasn't been confirmed yet and your ready to keel over and call it a season. how and why this kid has a loaded handgun on his dashboard is just stupid. you gotta realize he is pretty much a kid and is going to make some dumb mistakes. i just hope if this true, it will give him alittle scare and say hey i can't be doing dumb shtein. now sign the farging contract and get to camp dumb ass.
the press have people in the police dept that would have leaked this, no?
Quote from: Diomedes on July 28, 2006, 09:48:14 AM
"sign for six"
"no"
"we know about the gun"
"..."
:-D
yea but hopefully they are eagles fans
Just sign the bastich. I already don't care about the alleged incident.
Quote from: mussa on July 28, 2006, 09:48:20 AMyou gotta realize he is pretty much a kid and is going to make some dumb mistakes.
I've been waiting for someone to drop this idiotic line. No, you don't gotta realize that kids are prone to driving around with handguns on their dashboard. You don't get a pass for this. I wouldn't if I were the one caught with a gun, and neither would you. This has nothing to do with being a dumb kid and everything to do with being a very dumb human. And that's putting it charitably.
If it's true, farg him.
may i ask why you care more about a guy with a gun in his car than you do about five kids getting drowned by their mother
Welcome to the paradox that is Dio.
Hunt Bunkley for sport.
I agree with Mussa to this extent:
Can we at least wait until there is official confirmation of Bunkley being arrested before we jump off the Walt Whitman en masse?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 09:55:44 AM
may i ask why you care more about a guy with a gun in his car than you do about five kids getting drowned by their mother
not in this thread.
He's not a kid. I've been 21, and I never did that. A kid mistake is dating the wrong girl, getting loaded and acting like an ass...not carrying a loaded gun in plain sight. That there is a criminal mistake, not a kid mistake.
That said, I'm not going to bury him for it. It mostly means he's stupid and cares too much about looking cool. He needs to apologize, sign his damn contract and make people forget about this with his heretofore incident-free stellar football playing.
A player has a gun on him, hes automatically labeled as a thug and hardguy? I can bet that half these guys carry guns with the threat of being carjacked, jumped, or held at gunpoint--just not stupid enough to put it on the f-in dashboard going over a bridge. They have alot of money and its the true jealous thugs that will do anything to get it, so they dfend themselves like a growing up poor, ghetto black kid does--with a gun. You can take a ghetto boy out of the ghetto and stick him in the NFL, but you cant take the true ghetto out of him.
the more "shots fired" heard around the NFL, the increase in players holding a piece, no matter what their taught in the NFL classroom
Quote from: Geowhizzer on July 28, 2006, 09:57:21 AM
I agree with Mussa to this extent:
Can we at least wait until there is official confirmation of Bunkley being arrested before we jump off the Walt Whitman en masse?
pretty much my take...there's only one source that has said anything about this that isnt talk radio...so we'll see.
i don't have my hopes to high for it though. ya never know since he was from FSU, he very well could have been going after mcdougle to finish the job. :P
kid probably grew up in a swamp in florida somewhere...population three
so imagine hes coming over the ben frank looking illatropolis dead in the eye first the first time...then it hits him "what the farging farg am i doing"....and proceeds to go under the drivers seat for his cannon
So it was a ghetto swamp? ???
Quote from: Beermonkey on July 28, 2006, 09:11:32 AMI don't remember there ever being a mention of any criminal history with Bunk that would have kept them from taking him.
BUNK LUVS HIM SUM GTA
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 10:02:21 AM
kid probably grew up in a swamp in florida somewhere...population three
so imagine hes coming over the ben frank looking illatropolis dead in the eye first the first time...then it hits him "what the farging farg am i doing"....and proceeds to go under the drivers seat for his cannon
You mean he was my neighbor?
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 28, 2006, 10:05:34 AM
Quote from: Beermonkey on July 28, 2006, 09:11:32 AMI don't remember there ever being a mention of any criminal history with Bunk that would have kept them from taking him.
BUNK LUVS HIM SUM GTA
:( I remembered that after I hit post.
Oh god, violent games really do make you stupid! Quick, somebody take my copy of Madden!
With the murder rate in philly this year i cant say i blame him.
Im reading that it is legal to have a gun on the dash in some southern states.. In NJ that is illegal. Bunk should have stored it away.
did I see a replica Bunkley Baretta 9mm for sale in the Eagles Store already??
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 10:02:21 AM
kid probably grew up in a swamp in florida somewhere...population three
so imagine hes coming over the ben frank looking illatropolis dead in the eye first the first time...then it hits him "what the farging farg am i doing"....and proceeds to go under the drivers seat for his cannon
This made me laugh.
Quote from: General_Failure on July 28, 2006, 10:08:38 AM
Oh god, violent games really do make you stupid! Quick, somebody take my copy of Madden!
My copy of TO's ESPN NFL 2k5 makes me very angry
Quote from: Beermonkey on July 28, 2006, 10:15:24 AM
Quote from: General_Failure on July 28, 2006, 10:08:38 AM
Oh god, violent games really do make you stupid! Quick, somebody take my copy of Madden!
My copy of TO's ESPN NFL 2k5 makes me very angry
I still play that from time to time, when I need a break from Arena Football. I luv me sum cheap sports games.
gargano just said his sources have told him that this whole story is false
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 10:22:14 AM
gargano just said his sources have told him that this whole story is false
Don't know who Gargano is--some shock jock, I imagine--but I hope to hell his sources are right.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 10:22:14 AM
gargano just said his sources have told him that this whole story is false
it was probably a super soaker that looked like a real gun
da da dun
Quote from: rjs246 on July 28, 2006, 09:02:49 AM
Quote from: Wingspan on July 28, 2006, 09:01:33 AM
if this is true....i could care less if this guy ever signs.
i really care less and less about pro athletes each passing day
In.
Yet we've watsed countless days of our lives
analyizing them...meh
Quote from: dis12 on July 28, 2006, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 10:22:14 AM
gargano just said his sources have told him that this whole story is false
it was probably a super soaker that looked like a real gun
No, this was Bunkley, not Justice.
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 10:22:14 AM
gargano just said his sources have told him that this whole story is false
shocker
i think reid prolly told him to bring it to make mcnabb mentally tougher. thuganomics 101 for mcnabb.
no, because a story like that in this city would be EVERYWHERE
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 28, 2006, 10:39:58 AMno, because a story like that in this city would be EVERYWHERE
It's a good point.
On TC Live Andy Reid said that there was no Bunkley arrest. Im not surprised, PFT just being a crock of shtein like usual. Although there would be no reason for Reid to admit it at this point in time.
Ha. Apparently Gaffney got pulled over for having a gun, but his was registered in Texas.
Aside from the fact that the story is apparently false...Is anyone else not upset by the thought of the kid protecting himself? After what happened to McDougle last year, how on earth can you blame any of these gusy for carrying protection. I'm not big on guns, but I can't say I'd do any different if I was a target like these guys are.
I'd go so far as to say they should be carrying protection.
jabar gaffney is the guy pulled over
they saw a gun in a holster in the car and got him for that
concealed weapon charge on the walt whitman
will be a press release later today
Our WR's are fine.
mcnabbs gonna have to be quick on the trigger with these guys
oh well, with his family history i dont blame him for carrying one. Wasnt it a week before the superbowl his brother got killed in a home invasion or was it his cousin?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 11:51:59 AM
mcnabbs gonna have to be quick on the trigger with these guys
Ban?
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 11:51:59 AM
mcnabbs gonna have to be quick on the trigger with these guys
D+
How do you confuse Bunkley and Gaffney other than the "ey" at the end?
Quote from: SidFarkus on July 28, 2006, 11:33:50 AM
Aside from the fact that the story is apparently false...Is anyone else not upset by the thought of the kid protecting himself? After what happened to McDougle last year, how on earth can you blame any of these gusy for carrying protection. I'm not big on guns, but I can't say I'd do any different if I was a target like these guys are.
I'd go so far as to say they should be carrying protection.
Or else he'll end up like Ron Mexico.
in about half the country he wasnt committing a crime
and in the other half if he were white there would have been no arrest
Channel 3 local news just broke in with 'breaking news' that it was definitely Gaffney and Reid confirmed it on Eagles live. I still don't care.
So it goes from Bunkley and a gun openly on his dashboard to Gaffney and a gun in a holster.
Got to love those rumors!
There's a reason it's called a "concealed" weapon.
Dook shouldn't have been carrying it in plain sight. I know he's from Florida and every Tom, Dick & Harry has a permit to carry down here (including me) but still... just plain careless & stupid.
Here's a summary of the Florida concealed weapons law pertaining to this issue:
QuoteFlorida law allows any person who can legally own a firearm to carry it in his/her vehicle without a license or permit, even loaded, so long as it is "securely encased" and "not accessible for immediate use" (and the statute plainly states that simply placing the firearm in an unlocked glove compartment or briefcase is sufficient, for example). Refer to the Car/Gun Law paragraph above.
this is officially a non story
lock it down
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 28, 2006, 11:57:10 AM
in about half the country he wasnt committing a crime
and in the other half if he were white there would have been no arrest
Did you just try to turn this event in to racist behavior?
You're an (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ananumuss/trotterass2.jpg)
:-D oh man what have i created
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v101/ananumuss/trotterass2.jpg)
This must be the "bubble" that Dave speaks of so often.
NBC10 link (http://www.nbc10.com/sports/9591691/detail.html) says it happened on June 20
Did you just try to turn this event in to racist behavior?
nope im saying the whole thing is a non starter...so perhaps the holier than tho im better than every other person on earth crowd will seckle
I'm happy this thread turned out to be nothing more than a waste of our collective time.
PS: If I could, I'd close this sucker down.
^^^^
listen to him
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 28, 2006, 12:34:33 PM
I'm happy this thread turned out to be nothing more than a waste of our collective time.
Shocking!
Quote from: ttllabtoof on July 28, 2006, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 28, 2006, 12:34:33 PM
I'm happy this thread turned out to be nothing more than a waste of our collective time.
Shocking!
^^^ Why is this spamming, trolling, psychotic, dickless idiot still here? ^^^
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 28, 2006, 12:34:33 PM
I'm happy this thread turned out to be nothing more than a waste of our collective time.
Waste of time..hell, it helped me dispose of a couple hours at work on a summer Friday morning. Are you kidding, this thread was awesome!!
it wasnt a waste of time
but its over now
to show how much of a non story it really is...there has not been a single call on wip about it today
It was no more of a waste of time than posting in general is, so in that regard, both Dio & IGY are correct.
I'm home sick today and bored so I read this whole thread. I hate myself and should be mocked...
Quote from: Phanatic on July 28, 2006, 01:09:33 PM
I'm home sick today and bored so I read this whole thread.
Care to post a critique? I'm very happy with my contribution. I rock.
In summary we hate professional athletes but spend our entire day shirking work and talking about them... Holla!
Word life holla back, y'all!
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 28, 2006, 12:34:33 PM
PS: If I could, I'd close this sucker down.
You could change the topic to something non-Eagles related like, "FFatPatt has a massive johnson".
Yeah, like anyone would ever believe that.
Quote from: Phanatic on July 28, 2006, 01:21:25 PM
In summary we hate professional athletes but spend our entire day shirking work and talking about them... Holla!
This sums up my sad sad life perfectly.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 28, 2006, 01:30:47 PM
Yeah, like anyone would ever believe that.
That's not the important thing, now is it?
Quote from: rjs246 on July 28, 2006, 01:32:17 PM
Quote from: Phanatic on July 28, 2006, 01:21:25 PM
In summary we hate professional athletes but spend our entire day shirking work and talking about them... Holla!
This sums up my sad sad life perfectly.
Boo hoo. How sad can it be?
You have a beautiful (I assume) lady friend to keep you company. At least you have that going for you.
Quote"He had the gun registered in the state of Texas, he thought it was fine on his move up here," Reid said. "Jabar is not the kind of guy I'm too worried about. He's a pretty straight shooter. ... No pun intended there."
Oh dear. AR and Romey should hang out and pun it up all night long.
Best pun evar.........!!1111111111kldlpkioeatitraw
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 28, 2006, 01:48:12 PM
Boo hoo. How sad can it be?
You have a beautiful (I assume) lady friend to keep you company. At least you have that going for you.
Good call, actually. My life kind of rules.
Quote"He had the gun registered in the state of Texas, he thought it was fine on his move up here," Reid said. "Jabar is not the kind of guy I'm too worried about. He's a pretty straight shooter. ... No pun intended there."
The gun laws down here are not very stringent so it is easy to see how he could screw it up. Down here you can pretty much carry a gun wherever and whenever you like.
Hey guys, just reporting in, did I miss anything?
Quote from: hbionic on July 28, 2006, 02:45:15 PM
Hey guys, just reporting in, did I miss anything?
No.
Quote from: hbionic on July 28, 2006, 02:45:15 PM
Hey guys, just reporting in, did I miss anything?
Broderick Bunkley shot Jabar Gaffney. In other words, no.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 28, 2006, 03:22:09 PM
Quote from: hbionic on July 28, 2006, 02:45:15 PM
Hey guys, just reporting in, did I miss anything?
Broderick Bunkley shot Jabar Gaffney. In other words, no.
Great, now he's going to want the cost of bullets reimbursed in his contract.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 28, 2006, 03:22:09 PM
Quote from: hbionic on July 28, 2006, 02:45:15 PM
Hey guys, just reporting in, did I miss anything?
Broderick Bunkley shot Jabar Gaffney.
But he only wants to do 5, not 6 years in prison.
Quote from: Diomedes on July 28, 2006, 03:22:09 PM
Quote from: hbionic on July 28, 2006, 02:45:15 PM
Hey guys, just reporting in, did I miss anything?
Broderick Bunkley shot Jabar Gaffney. In other words, no.
by far the best post of the year!
isn't it legal to have an open alcoholic beverage in your ride in texas? and isn't beastiality legal and sodomy not?
Quote from: mussa on July 29, 2006, 05:13:48 PM
isn't it legal to have an open alcoholic beverage in your ride in texas? and isn't beastiality legal and sodomy not?
I don't think it is legal to have an open beverage in you vehicle, but that never stopped me. :paranoid
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 29, 2006, 07:37:34 PM
Quote from: mussa on July 29, 2006, 05:13:48 PM
isn't it legal to have an open alcoholic beverage in your ride in texas? and isn't beastiality legal and sodomy not?
I don't think it is legal to have an open beverage in you vehicle, but that never stopped me. :paranoid
It's legal in Missouri, as long as you aren't in St. Charles county (where I live). But, still an awesome rule for road trips. :yay
Quote from: Father Demon on July 30, 2006, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 29, 2006, 07:37:34 PM
Quote from: mussa on July 29, 2006, 05:13:48 PM
isn't it legal to have an open alcoholic beverage in your ride in texas? and isn't beastiality legal and sodomy not?
I don't think it is legal to have an open beverage in you vehicle, but that never stopped me. :paranoid
It's legal in Missouri, as long as you aren't in St. Charles county (where I live). But, still an awesome rule for road trips. :yay
Why do some natives of the state call it Missourra? I just got back from the Current River where I overheard many locals pronounce it that way.
Because they are either a) hillbilly hoosier rednecks from the backwoods (about everyone has roots from 'da hills'), or b) they are politicians trying to seem homey.
Current River? I bet that was a blast. How many open sex acts did you get to see? My over/under on that would be three.
Quote from: Father Demon on July 30, 2006, 06:04:13 PM
Because they are either a) hillbilly hoosier rednecks from the backwoods (about everyone has roots from 'da hills'), or b) they are politicians trying to seem homey.
Current River? I bet that was a blast. How many open sex acts did you get to see? My over/under on that would be three.
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Hill on the Rams signed for 5 years so that probably means Bunkley will be done by monday night. Tuesday at the latest.
If not, something is seriously wrong. 2 in front and 1 right in back of him were signed.
Something's already seriously wrong. He's missed 8 days worth of practice as is.
Quote from: FFatPatt on July 31, 2006, 07:18:48 AM
Quote from: Bunkley78 on July 30, 2006, 07:26:55 PM
Hill on the Rams signed for 5 years
I read 4.
The Rams' site (http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/55079/), aside from offering incredible insight to this entire story, says its five.
i think it's time to stop being cheap & sign bunkley. there's a game this sunday.
Quote from: hunt on July 31, 2006, 11:05:18 AM
i think it's time to stop being cheap & sign bunkley. there's a game this sunday.
::)
I think it needs to be expressed as "game", with quote marks included.
it has a lot more to do with being stubborn than it does being cheap
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 31, 2006, 11:23:14 AM
it has a lot more to do with being stubborn than it does being cheap
You're on fire today.
Quote from: hunt on July 31, 2006, 11:05:18 AM
i think it's time to stop being cheap & sign bunkley. there's a game this sunday.
Bunkley probably wont be playing in the Hall of Fame game.
QuoteEagles | Bunkley still not signed; talks cooled
Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:17:51 -0700
Bob Grotz, of the Delaware County Times, reports Philadelphia Eagles first-round draft pick DT Brodrick Bunkley remains unsigned. Talks cooled over the weekend and there was no sign they resumed. Bunkley is now not likely to play in the team's preseason opener Aug. 6. Bunkley, projected to be a key component in the rebuilt front seven, has missed 18 practices in 11 days. "I've been hopeful since we started the process," head coach Andy Reid said Sunday, July 30, when asked about signing Bunkley. "It isn't done yet and I expect it to get done pretty quickly." Pretty quickly, on the other hand, isn't the same as immediately. Reid has been unable to communicate with Bunkley despite repeated attempts. DE Jevon Kearse, one of the senior statesmen on the defensive line, also was unsuccessful in attempts to speak with Bunkley.
Quote from: PhillyGirl on July 31, 2006, 11:14:10 AM
Quote from: hunt on July 31, 2006, 11:05:18 AM
i think it's time to stop being cheap & sign bunkley. there's a game this sunday.
::)
corey simon's in camp.
And lookin' good. Three years too late.
So when do you guys think Bunkley will get signed?
I don't know anymore. I honestly think there is a big chance he won't even be signed this week and possibly even next week.
He'll sit out the season and be drafted by the Falcons next year.
It would be funny if he sits out the season, and reenters the draft, and the Eagles pick him again.
No, it really wouldn't.
According to EMB ( lollzlzlzltr3ovg866, ) Eskin said the Eagles are getting so sick of negotiating with Wichard they told him to just pick if he wants 5 or 6 years. Wichard cant decide between the two. Eagles would supposedly pull the deal off the table this weekend because Bunkley wont be worth as much after missing so many practices.
Bunkley isn't winning any friends in the locker room holding out like this.
I don't give a shtein what any of the players say publically. They're sweating their asses off and being ground into the dirt twice a day up there and where is Bunkley?
Not good. If this shtein goes on much longer, he's going to be useless this season.
What a f'ing waste.
I don't know about useless, but it definitely can't help by missing this much time. He's too much of a pansy to tell his agent to get his ass into camp or he's fired.
If he misses the rest of this week, he'd be useless to the Eagles.
A rookie with no experience in the system rarely comes in and contributes in any significant way especially on defense.
Nope... if he stays out, his ass will be buried on the depth chart until Reid gets good and ready to play him. We all know how vindictive Reid is and all Bunkley's doing now is pissing him off.
Like I said, not good.
Simon came in and started though, and missed more time than Bunkley. But I agree that it isn't good, but to say he's useless, is taking it way too far IMO. The best and most effective player will win the majority of the minutes. If Bunkley earns it and impresses when he comes in, then he'll get that job.
The only way that Bunkley contributes in a meaningful way is if he gets his ass into camp immediately. He's missed 18 practices, dude. EIGHTEEN.
He's at the point now where if he doesn't get in here, he's not going to be able to contribute at all. He won't be a part of the regular rotation because Walker & Patterson will be the starters and Rayburn and Howard will be spelling them. That makes him the fifth defensive tackle at this point. Unless someone gets hurt, he'll be on the outside looking in.
It was a longshot for him to start even if he'd been there since the beginning of camp. At this point, there's no fricken way that'll happen unless injuries wrack the tackle position.
I'm telling you, it's a stretch to believe he contributes at all now much less contribute in any meaningful way.
Quote from: Dillen37 on July 31, 2006, 07:18:55 PM
According to EMB ( lollzlzlzltr3ovg866, ) Eskin said the Eagles are getting so sick of negotiating with Wichard they told him to just pick if he wants 5 or 6 years. Wichard cant decide between the two. Eagles would supposedly pull the deal off the table this weekend because Bunkley wont be worth as much after missing so many practices.
That's hilarious, actually. The agent's negotiating with himself, then?
Ha, I guess. He wants to pick the one that makes him look better to other clients/potential clients.
Rome, im not really worried that's its been 18 practices. We started way earlier then other camps, and he plays DT. If we didnt have the HOF game, he'd have missed only 6 or 7 practices, which is still too much, but it isnt really a HUGE deal I dont think.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on July 31, 2006, 08:06:05 PM
The only way that Bunkley contributes in a meaningful way is if he gets his ass into camp immediately. He's missed 18 practices, dude. EIGHTEEN.
He's at the point now where if he doesn't get in here, he's not going to be able to contribute at all. He won't be a part of the regular rotation because Walker & Patterson will be the starters and Rayburn and Howard will be spelling them. That makes him the fifth defensive tackle at this point. Unless someone gets hurt, he'll be on the outside looking in.
It was a longshot for him to start even if he'd been there since the beginning of camp. At this point, there's no fricken way that'll happen unless injuries wrack the tackle position.
I'm telling you, it's a stretch to believe he contributes at all now much less contribute in any meaningful way.
At any other position I'd agree with you, but there's not much to learn at the DT position. Biggest thing for him will be to get into playing shape and adjust to blocking schemes the NFL has to offer.
Quote from: Dillen37 on July 31, 2006, 07:18:55 PM
According to EMB ( lollzlzlzltr3ovg866, ) Eskin said the Eagles are getting so sick of negotiating with Wichard they told him to just pick if he wants 5 or 6 years. Wichard cant decide between the two. Eagles would supposedly pull the deal off the table this weekend because Bunkley wont be worth as much after missing so many practices.
I heard that call on WIP tonight also. Eskin was just stating that the hold up is not due to the length of the contract. He mentioned that the agent has the choice of a 5 or 6 yr deal but never alluded to the agent being confused over what length he wanted.
He said it was primarily due to money & that his agent wanted him paid more than the 9th highest player (it may have been higher or slightly lower).
I know hard ball negotiating has been going on for some time now, but man, I feel like Rosennerd really put a monkeywrench in all of the agent industry. Somehow it seems like these guys are above all that is holy more and more now
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but this Wichard guy has already dealt with the Eagles twice this offseason (Darren Howard, Jeremy Bloom) and some of his top clients include Jason Taylor, Dwight Freeney, Terrell Suggs and Adam Archuleta....
(http://www.protectmanagement.com/images/oldsitephotos/gary.jpg)
what a damn joke. everything else has been going great for the eagles and now are most promising draft pick, has missed 18 practices and has yet to get close to any deal. lovely!
Someone actually did the research. Bunkley's situation is even worse than I thought.
Joy.
QuotePosted on Tue, Aug. 01, 2006
Bunkley bucking history with holdout
By Bob Brookover
Inquirer Staff Writer
BETHLEHEM, Pa. - It could all turn out all right for Brodrick Bunkley. The Eagles' first-round draft pick could sign a contract, report to training camp, and have a monster rookie season.
That's certainly the scenario the Eagles are hoping for even as they struggle to figure out what it is that Bunkley's agent Gary Wichard is seeking from them. The defensive tackle's camp holdout extended to 12 days yesterday as the 14th overall pick missed his 19th and 20th practices.
No progress was made on the negotiations, and Wichard continued to ignore all phone messages from The Inquirer. Attempts to reach Bunkley also failed.
If recent history repeats itself, this is an ominous situation for Bunkley and the Eagles, who had hoped to receive a major contribution from their first-round pick this season. Defensive coordinator Jim Johnson addressed the rookie's absence after the team's morning practice, saying that Bunkley has already missed a lot.
"He'll never make up the techniques that [defensive line coach] Pete Jenkins is teaching," Johnson said. "This is the first year for Pete and he's trying some new techniques, and [Bunkley] is missing those. You just don't catch up."
Johnson said he has seen it all before.
Rookies "are lost anyway for a while," he said. "You just have to face the facts that a rookie has a hard time learning things right away. Sometimes it takes them a full year to learn. I can give you a lot of examples of that, so if you miss it, it's almost like a double whammy. It's hurting him. There's no question about it."
That may sound like coach-speak, but there are some daunting statistics to support Johnson's claims.
Since 2001, there have been 11 rookie defensive tackles that were unsigned and missed time in training camp. In the majority of those cases, the players struggled during their first seasons; in many cases, the players continued to struggle beyond their first year.
Only two of the 11 rookie defensive tackles that did not report to camp on time - Tennessee's Albert Haynesworth and Arizona's Darnell Dockett - managed to play all 16 regular-season games as rookies.
Here are some detailed examples of the struggles encountered by rookie defensive tackles who did not report to camp on time.
Ryan Sims, the sixth overall pick of the Kansas City Chiefs in 2002, missed 41 days of training camp as a rookie. He played in just six games and had only five tackles before suffering a dislocated left elbow. He remains an extreme disappointment for the Chiefs.
Wendell Bryant, the 12th overall pick in the 2002 draft, missed 49 days before joining the Arizona Cardinals. He played in 14 games as a rookie and had 11 tackles and 11/2 sacks. He did not record another sack after that and is now out of football.
If, as anticipated, Bunkley does not sign today, it will be the third-longest training camp boycott by a rookie defensive tackle in the last five years. The other double-digit absences since 2001 were Cleveland's Gerard Warren (10 days in 2001), the New York Giants' William Joseph (12 in 2003) and Seattle's Marcus Tubbs (10 in 2004).
Warren, the third overall pick, played in 15 games and had five sacks as a rookie with the Browns, but his numbers declined each year after that and he is now with the Denver Broncos.
Joseph's three-year career with the Giants can best be described as disappointing. Tubbs, the 23d overall pick, had a poor rookie season that ended prematurely with an ankle injury, but he rebounded to play well last season for the NFC champion Seahawks.
An examination of the first-round picks at defensive tackle in the last five years who reported to their rookie training camps on time reveals that they have had tremendous success.
Eleven defensive tackles taken in the first round reported on time. New England's Richard Seymour, probably the best of the 11, and Travis Johnson, a Wichard client and Bunkley's teammate at Florida State, are the only two who did not play all 16 games as rookies. Seymour missed three games and Johnson missed one, but both still had good rookie seasons. Seymour, in fact, had a great one and has been to four straight Pro Bowls since.
The rest of the cast: Jacksonville's Marcus Stroud (three Pro Bowls) and John Henderson (one Pro Bowl), Pittsburgh's Casey Hampton (two Pro Bowls), the New York Jets' DeWayne Robertson, New England's Ty Warren and Vince Wilfork, Chicago's Tommie Harris (one Pro Bowl), San Diego's Luis Castillo, and the Eagles' Mike Patterson.
You will not find a single Pro Bowl player among the players that did not report to their rookie camps on time.
Maybe everything is going to be OK for Bunkley and the Eagles. Maybe he will have just as good a rookie season as Corey Simon did after his 12-day absence from the Eagles' camp as a rookie in 2000.
At the very least, though, it appears as if Bunkley has already rolled the dice with his NFL career.
It sounds like Bunkley's agent is a class A douche.
Bunkley isn't winning any friends in the locker room holding out like this.
I don't give a shtein what any of the players say publically. They're sweating their asses off and being ground into the dirt twice a day up there and where is Bunkley?
Not good. If this shtein goes on much longer, he's going to be useless this season.
What a f'ing waste.
worst post ever?
you have any idea how many players have stayed away from eagles camp only to come back and be embraced by the players...and many of those were holdouts...bunkley is not a hold out...if anything the players love another player sticking it to a front office that is not known as the most player friendly...and even if that is being extreme they absolutely to not begrudge him anything...
as for your ridiculous worthless comment....trainign camp would normally be starting right about now...so he really isnt behind where a normal rookie would at this point...
bunk will sign sometime after the hof game...probably a week from today and no one will remember any of this even happened...so settle down and stop getting all emotional because a player wont do what your beloved front office wants when they want
Wait, IGY, so the last 18 practices have meant nothing? They've installed no packages, practiced no defensive calls, learned nothing over the last 10 days? Come on. He's going to be far behind. No doubt he makes the team, but he gets way less play time than was expected of him when he was drafted.
And hopefully he's in good physical shape when he shows up. Based on his combine pic, I'd say that's likely, but game shape may take some more time.
Wait, IGY, so the last 18 practices have meant nothing? They've installed no packages, practiced no defensive calls, learned nothing over the last 10 days? Come on. He's going to be far behind. No doubt he makes the team, but he gets way less play time than was expected of him when he was drafted.
they mean nothing in terms of bunkley being ready for the season...rome said missing those extra practices would make him 'worthless' for the season...if there wasnt the extra game this year camp would be starting now...and hed be getting the exact amount of time that every other eagle rookie in their history has gotten (except for the ones this year) so are you saying the normal length training camp isnt enough?...that starting with this year they should always begin a week early??
And hopefully he's in good physical shape when he shows up. Based on his combine pic, I'd say that's likely, but game shape may take some more time.
this is true but i would hope that he would have been in shape had he arrived at the start of camp...and i hope he comes to camp next year in shape
he will be behind the other eagles in this years camp...but when he comes in he wont be behind in terms of their not being enough time for him to get ready for the season
romey and some others here are getting way to excited about this...at least at this point...and it has nothing to do with bunkley not being ready or missing 18 practices...its because when a player disses the front office it means he is in turn dissing them personally
Did you read Brookover's column?
Case closed.
Oh well. I guess they should have drafted Santonio Holmes.
yeah and if he comes back next week he held out less time than any of those guys
check the calender...its not even august yet dook
if he holds out until the middle of august then everything changes
like i said tho hell be signed on or before next tuesday
eagles camp started last year one year ago today...so he could sign tomorrow and miss no time off a normal camp
settle down
My calendar says August 1st, IGY.
And he's now missed 19 practices. But I guess you know more about this than say Jim Johnson does, right?
Christ... ::)
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 08:33:41 AMcheck the calender...its not even august yet dook
what calendar are you using?
lol..yeah jim johnson is going to come out and applaud a player for not being there...dont worry bunk youre fine get in when you can
thats your problem...you follow what the team says like its a religion
the team doesnt always tell the truth and the team says things that generally are going to support the organizations position...but its not always correct
anyway if it was so important for him to be in there why doesnt the team do what it takes to make that happen
what calendar are you using?
sorry the batteries in my sun dial died yesterday
I kind of had a sneaking suspiscion that Bunkley was going to be a bust anyway. Now I'm pretty sure.
VIVA LAJUAN RAMSEY
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 08:39:34 AMsorry the batteries in my sun dial died yesterday
ok then, as long as we're on the same page now.
I kind of had a sneaking suspiscion that Bunkley was going to be a bust anyway
me too...and by all reports he was terrible in the mini camps
he is athletically freaky tho and with those guys at least you have a chance at greatness...hopefully he reaches his potential one day
i didnt see him contributing much this year even had he been at camp from the jump off
What a stupid article. Brookover gets an F for that pile of crap.
Anyone can isolate a couple hold outs who failed and extrapolate ridiculous conclusions. And of course Johnson is gonna spew crap like "you just don't catch up." If that were REALLY the case, they'd release him. "You don't catch up." What a crock of shtein. We all know damn well that he's missed nothing vital. It's bullshtein company rhetoric, parroted by a punch-the-clock sports page clip. Big whoop.
I'm not concerned.
The point isn't that he would have missed less time had we started camp normally. It's that they start installing all their packages and calls AT THE START OF CAMP. He's still missed all the early practices. He has time to get into game shape, sure, but the practices now are designed with the assumption that you know all the packages. He won't, and they aren't going to slow down to get him up to speed. Which will put him at a significant disadvantage to other guys. Which will limit his game reps come Sept.
We should have taken Laurence Maroney.
Which will put him at a significant disadvantage to other guys.
this is true...he will be behind the guys that are in camp now...but that wasnt the point of romey and others...their point was that hes now worthless for the whole season which is ridiculous
he has a month to learn what they have learned in a week
hell have to catch up but he will have plenty of time to do so...and once he gets to where they are now then its all about who can execute the packages best...and thats where he will be come first week of sept (provided he gets in relatively soon)
again this isnt about bunkley this is about disrepecting the front office...like dio said jim johnson knows full well he can come in soon and be fine for the start of the season...johnson himself saw it with corey simon...but johnson must tote the company line and talk ish on bunk just as reid heckert and banner have done over the past week
funny that the agent and bunk refuse to talk to the media thus far even after being attacked by the eagles...which is the way these negotiations should be
Quote from: Diomedes on August 01, 2006, 08:49:42 AM
What a stupid article. Brookover gets an F for that pile of crap.
Anyone can isolate a couple hold outs who failed and extrapolate ridiculous conclusions. And of course Johnson is gonna spew crap like "you just don't catch up." If that were REALLY the case, they'd release him. "You don't catch up." What a crock of shtein. We all know damn well that he's missed nothing vital. It's bullshtein company rhetoric, parroted by a punch-the-clock sports page clip. Big whoop.
I'm not concerned.
What he said.
Corey Simon missed how long in 2000? I believe he was out for 2 weeks, right? He had 9.5 sacks.
Who knows my Bunkley is going to amount to. But I know this, I would be more worried if the DT situation looked like it did in 2003. They have several guys who are playing really well now.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2006, 09:21:21 AM
Corey Simon missed how long in 2000? I believe he was out for 2 weeks, right? He had 9.5 sacks.
Including the very first play of the season.
On Troy Aikman no less. :D
Bunkley sacking David Carr on the first defensive play of the season would be impressive on many levels, but mostly because there is no way in hell he'll start on defense in that game.
Sacking David Carr has never been impressive.
I think he's actually been credited with sacking himself a couple times.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5819844
6. Philadelphia
Tackle Mike Patterson had a surprisingly effective rookie year, and veteran Darwin Walker is very quick on inside penetration, which makes him a perfect fit for coordinator Jim Johnson's blitz-happy defense. But when Patterson and Walker need a breather, Eagles fans will be in for a treat: Rookie tackle Brodrick Bunkley is a freak of nature who combines incredible upper-body strength with great speed. He'll look good next to "The Freak," end Jevon Kearse. End Darren Howard was a great free-agent signing. End Trent Cole is a converted linebacker and a good pass rusher.
So all the guys who missed camp and turned out to be busts as a result were flukes yet the one or two players who didn't turn out to be busts were the real deal?
Oh, I see.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 08:46:11 AM
i didnt see him contributing much this year even had he been at camp from the jump off
And then...
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 09:47:30 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5819844
6. Philadelphia
Tackle Mike Patterson had a surprisingly effective rookie year, and veteran Darwin Walker is very quick on inside penetration, which makes him a perfect fit for coordinator Jim Johnson's blitz-happy defense. But when Patterson and Walker need a breather, Eagles fans will be in for a treat: Rookie tackle Brodrick Bunkley is a freak of nature who combines incredible upper-body strength with great speed. He'll look good next to "The Freak," end Jevon Kearse. End Darren Howard was a great free-agent signing. End Trent Cole is a converted linebacker and a good pass rusher.
Which is it, IGY? Is he going to be great or a bust?
McNabb held out for 1-2 weeks and missed learning the WCO from Doug Pederson. How'd that turn out?
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 01, 2006, 10:18:30 AM
McNabb held out for 1-2 weeks and missed learning the WCO from Doug Pederson. How'd that turn out?
still no SB rings, maybe those two weeks costs us a championship!!
Quote from: PhillyGirl on August 01, 2006, 09:12:15 AM
Quote from: Diomedes on August 01, 2006, 08:49:42 AM
What a stupid article. Brookover gets an F for that pile of crap.
Anyone can isolate a couple hold outs who failed and extrapolate ridiculous conclusions. And of course Johnson is gonna spew crap like "you just don't catch up." If that were REALLY the case, they'd release him. "You don't catch up." What a crock of shtein. We all know damn well that he's missed nothing vital. It's bullshtein company rhetoric, parroted by a punch-the-clock sports page clip. Big whoop.
I'm not concerned.
What he said.
Same here. That article smacks of front-office propaganda. If there is any position in the roster that can sustain a holdout, it's DT. Especially for a guy who may or may not crack into the starting DL rotation. I have no doubt that given his apparent abilities, Bunkley should have plenty of time to get up to speed.
Quote from: BigEd76 on August 01, 2006, 10:18:30 AM
McNabb held out for 1-2 weeks and missed learning the WCO from Doug Pederson. How'd that turn out?
Apples and oranges.
Did he contribute in a meaningful way in his rookie season?
Not so much, Ed.
Not including P or K, I'd say that DT and DE are the easiest positions for a rookie to jump right in and play.
QB obviously is the hardest.
I'm not trippin yet. Both the Eagles and Wichard need to pull their heads outta their asses.
McNabb was not going to contribute in a meaningful way in his rookie season unless Dougie Fresh got shot in the face. Even then, Koy might have played a little.
Quote from: PhillyPhreak54 on August 01, 2006, 10:26:09 AM
Both the Eagles and Wichard need to pull their heads outta their asses.
On that we agree.
Both camps are acting stupid here and should be taken to task for doing so.
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 01, 2006, 10:23:40 AMDid he contribute in a meaningful way in his rookie season?
Not so much, Ed.
Played in 12 games and started 6 before getting hurt, mostly relying on athleticism alone (like Vick still does)
Which is it, IGY? Is he going to be great or a bust?
#1 i said i dont see him contributing that much THIS YEAR...how would that make him a bust
#2 i didnt write that about the defensive line...thats was an article...note the link i included
You asserted that Bunkley holding out won't affect him. Then you said you didn't expect him to do much this year even if he was there the first day of camp.
You're playing both sides of the argument like you always do, IGY.
Which is it? Will Bunkley be a force this year or won't he?
I think he'll be much less effective and productive because of this extended holdout. That's my position. Which is yours?
I wanted to add one other thing... I sincerely hope I'm wrong about this situation. I hope Bunkley beats the odds and comes in and dominates. Based on past history, though, I just don't see that happening.
QuoteEagles Blog: Bunkley's Agent Has Old Beef With Eagles
By Scott Bomboy, Managing Editor, NBC10.com
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The agent for holdout Eagles rookie Brodrick Bunkley may have a big, historic axe to grind with the Eagles.
Just put agent Gary Wichard's name into Google along with the word "Holdout" and you will find an old article from the New York Times.
Link: query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE0DB123FF933A1575AC0A966958260
Yes, in 1990 the same Gary Wichard convinced his client, Eagles pro bowl tight end Keith Jackson, to holdout for 50 days.
Eventually, Jackson and Wichard signed the same contract offered to them by the Eagles at the start of the holdout.
The Eagles lost their first two games that year without Jackson and Jackson had to pay more than $100,000 in fines. Since he was making $500,000 a year, it was a bitter pill for an agent to swallow.
The move also helped cost the Eagles an NFC division title and coach Buddy Ryan his job.
Flash forward to 2006. Wichard represents three new Eagles players: Darren Howard, Jeremy Bloom and Bunkley.
Howard has been a find for the Eagles but Bloom may not play at all this season (if ever).
Wichard aggressively sold Bloom's skills to NFL teams, but there's talk Bloom may not even be good enough to be put on the Injured Reserve list.
Wichard also represented, back in the day, a huge NFL bust - Brian Bosworth.
The Bunkley situation could be a bigger disaster. The team keeps saying it expects to sign Bunkley soon, since 26 other first-round picks have signed deals.
But Wichard wasn't even speaking with the Eagles as of Monday, and the team may not even have contract terms from Wichard.
And the chances of Bunkley playing well aren't very good, according to an excellent column from the Inquirer's Bob Brookover:
Link: .philly.com/mld/philly/15167526.htm.
Basically, rookies who miss their first training camp just don't play well - ever. Andy Reid and Jim Johnson said the same thing at a press conference last week.
And rookie LaJuan Ramsey has already taken Bunkley's spot on the defensive line.
The bottom line: If Bunkley doesn't sign this week, the team will just move on.
Eventually, like with the 1990 Jackson holdout, Bunkley would take the Eagles first contract offer, but he will not be a force on the field for 2006.
Also, the Allentown Morning Call reported that Bunkley wasn't returning phone calls from Eagles teammates, as well as coaches.
you know Bunkley is itching to pick up the phone by his teammates and new coaches and get this season started, but you have a scumbag agent whispering in his ear not to pick up, promising him the "best possible deal for you and your family" bull$htein and the war begins. Not realizing that probably in year 4 or 5 a bigger deal could come if you really are THAT good.
i smell bust
So Bunkley is going to give up millions of dollars, hold out for an entire year and eventually re-enter the NFL Draft in 2007 because of his agent's 16 year-old beef with the Eagles??
OMG.
:-D
bunkley will be in camp in the next week
and he wont have a big impact this year...i can see a similar season to patterson last year...but it wont have anything to do with his contract not getting done...and his whole career certainly isnt over because of it
now we have another loser with a blog...saying theres a history with his agent going back to 1990...lolol...even tho hes darren howards agent...i see the front office minions are in full e-f-f-e-c-t right about now
you kids get way to excited over stuff that doesnt warrant it...let him be unsigned in september before you lose it
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 12:40:51 PM
bunkley will be in camp in the next week
and he wont have a big impact this year...i can see a similar season to patterson last year...but it wont have anything to do with his contract not getting done...and his whole career certainly isnt over because of it
now we have another loser with a blog...saying theres a history with his agent going back to 1990...lolol...even tho hes darren howards agent...i see the front office minions are in full e-f-f-e-c-t right about now
you kids get way to excited over stuff that doesnt warrant it...let him be unsigned in september before you lose it
Yeah and 1990 it was also a different ownership, though I do disagree with you about people should not get excited over him not being here. There is no reason he shouldn't be this is a slotted contract and the picks directly in front of him and after him have signed. So really there is no reason at all for him to still be a holdout.
well he should be in camp but for whatever reason he isnt..my point is there a lot more things to be worrying about right now than bunkley being a week late for camp
i mean people are actually saying his career is over cause of this...you dont think thats outrageous?
yes, its completely foolish and its also foolish to think this guy is going to be a make or break for the Eagles d-line this year. if the birds thought that, he'd be in camp right now
if hes destined to be a great lineman, he will be. so, to get this excited about missed practices is not going to effect the Eagles record this year--maybe from his learning curve perspective, but thats it
Stop trying to calm me down! I'm so pissed!
LOUD NOISES!
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 12:51:18 PM
well he should be in camp but for whatever reason he isnt..my point is there a lot more things to be worrying about right now than bunkley being a week late for camp
i mean people are actually saying his career is over cause of this...you dont think thats outrageous?
It is absolutely outrageous, but people often make stupid comments when they get emotional about a topic. My concern with him coming in late to camp is the injury factor, players who come in late often get injured when going against these guys that are starting to get into football shape. I figure as long as he gets in by the end of the week he should be ok.
I think Bunkley will contribute a lot. Probably won't start at the beginning of the year, but I think by the middle of the season he will be. If he comes in and makes more plays than Walker, then Andy has no reason not to start him. He wants to make his football team the best it can be.
It's not missing camp that's going to ruin his career, it's that damn weapon charge hanging over his head.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 12:40:51 PM
you kids get way to excited over stuff that doesnt warrant it...
Good God. Physician, heal thyself. :-D
Also - I never said his career was over and neither did Brookover. He merely showed that players who miss their first camp because of a holdout are more prone to being busts and the facts generally supported his assertion.
Additionally, I never said he was going to be a bust. I said he was going to be useless
this year if he doesn't get his ass into camp immediately. And I stand by that opinion. He's plainly doing himself and the team a big disservice by not being in camp, IGY.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 01, 2006, 01:54:24 PM
It's not missing camp that's going to ruin his career, it's that damn weapon charge hanging over his head.
I heard he hired some hookers too.
Wow, most people only rent them.
He's the Thing. Once he's done with them, they aren't much use anymore.
Quote from: ice grillin you on August 01, 2006, 12:40:51 PM
and he wont have a big impact this year...i can see a similar season to patterson last year...
You see, this is a normal level of expectation for a rookie. But no! Every first rounder is going to be super stud 10-sack all-world oh my god we have the bestest defensive line ever!
Reality is a much more relaxing place to live, freaks.
seriously.
not every rookie can be the great corey simon.
Bunkley's 'roided out combine photo with the tough-guy scowl has people thinking he's gonna eat babies and shtein bombs.
Simon, he just ate.
Quote from: rjs246 on August 01, 2006, 06:13:50 PM
Reality is a much more relaxing place to live, freaks.
Quoterjs246
post Today, 08:52 AM
If Scott Young makes this team as another one of Andy Reid's pet projects while a player with actual talent and experience like MJG doesn't make the cut my F'ing head will explode.
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You luv you some rjs.
c'mon... that's not fair to single him out.
We all love us some rjs.
Quote from: FFatPatt on August 01, 2006, 08:17:54 PM
You luv you some rjs.
You love you some shoulderpad sean.
None of you is allowed out in this heat again until you get less retarded.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 01, 2006, 08:34:38 PM
None of you is allowed out in this heat again until you get less retarded.
Let's not litter this board with unrealistic expectations.
Quote from: General_Failure on August 01, 2006, 08:34:38 PM
None of you is allowed out in this heat again until you get less retarded.
Hahaaaaaaaa!
Good luck with that.
BTW: I still think Bunkley's being a horse's ass by not signing and getting into camp.
Given the history of the current FO I am leaning towards the Eagles being penny pinchers.
Quote from: mpmcgraw on August 01, 2006, 10:28:50 PM
Given the history of the current FO I am leaning towards the Eagles being penny pinchers.
Word is that they have offered more money than the Browns paid Wimbley.
Penny pinchers is the wrong word.
Didnt Wimbley and Ngata sign for 5? In my opinion the precedent is set, and the Eagles are going against it if the problem is 5 or 6 years and from what I understand it is.
my bad Wimbley did sign for six, but Hill signed for 5
oye vey
Yep. Tye Hill got 5, I believe.
None of us really know what's been offered. All we can do is speculate, just like the press.
Saying that, someone should handcuff the agent, Heckert and Banner together until they get a freaking deal signed.
This has gone on long enough.
I agree. Why do professionals start to make it personal?
Quote from: Jerome99RIP on August 01, 2006, 08:15:23 PM
Quote from: rjs246 on August 01, 2006, 06:13:50 PM
Reality is a much more relaxing place to live, freaks.
Quoterjs246
post Today, 08:52 AM
If Scott Young makes this team as another one of Andy Reid's pet projects while a player with actual talent and experience like MJG doesn't make the cut my F'ing head will explode.
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Cross board quoting? That's pretty advanced for you, Rome.