Has anyone else been watching this throughout the week? ESPN's NFL "experts" are ranking 5 categories for each NFL team: QB quality/depth, RB quality/depth, WR/TE quality/depth, pass defense and run defense.
Link to rankings (http://sports.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?id=2502031)
The Eagles are 6th in QBs and 31st in RBs and WRs/TEs, ahead of only San Francisco.
Offensive rankings:
01 = Bengals
02T = Seahawks, Panthers
04 = taterskins
05 = Patriots
06 = Giants
07T = Colts, Chiefs
09 = Steelers
10 = Broncos
11T = Falcons, Rams
13 = Saints
14 = Chargers
15 = Cardinals
16 = Ravens
17T = Cowboys, Dolphins
19 = Vikings
20 = Buccaneers
21 = Jaguars
22 = Texans
23 = EAGLES
24 = Bears
25T = Raiders, Packers
27T = Jets, Lions, Titans, Browns
31 = Bills
32 = 49ers
Yes, I know. It's ESPN, and all of these lists don't mean s**t, but it's for entertainment I guess. The taterskins at #3 for WRs/TEs though? c'mon...
they also have the skins as 14th in QBs. ha.
Having the Skins anywhere above 20 or so for QB's immediately takes it out of the running.
I think that the Eagles RB's are underrated, as Moats may be quite productive this year also, but the pass catcher rating is fair until proven otherwise. Let 'em earn it.
Do they Raiders really have that bad of an offense--think about it
Glad to see the Texans improved that O-line to make them heads above the rest there...nice
Yeah, look out for those stellar Vikings WR's and that young, cut and chissled QB
Im applying for a job there
Quote from: reese125 on June 28, 2006, 11:22:32 AMDo they Raiders really have that bad of an offense--think about it
Now that it's being run by Aaron Brooks? Yeah.
he might surprise you bud
no need to beat a dead horse and go down this road again
Um, no. Aaron Brooks stinks.
Mark Schlereth licks Gibbs' taint. Salisbury is kissing up to the Skins now that they made him look like a douche last season.
I looked in on it... and when I saw they ranked the Eagles #31 among RB's... I stopped watching, because I knew it was just a fluff piece based on little to no facts.
These fools will be kissing the Eagles dicks my midseason.
I'm expecting a decent ranking for the pass defense, but they'll probably be in the bottom 10 for run defense, based on the last decade...
Of course... we've dropped right back into the bottom ten as soon as we lost the "run stopper" Corey Simon.
It's all based on fan-voting. They've been running the polls for the last week or two on their website. There's no objective analysis here.
The fan ones are ranked separately. ESPN is doing their own, which is what I linked to...
Quote from: FFatPatt on June 28, 2006, 11:40:38 AM
Um, no. Aaron Brooks stinks.
new environment, new coaches, new players (quality receivers) can do wonders...look out
The taterskins at #3 for WRs/TEs though?
if you count cooley as TE which im sure they did...then that ranking is legit
as legit as their qb ranking is not legit
They said Cooley is decent, but they're basing it on a dominating trio of Moss/Lloyd/Randle El :P
cooley is better than decent....you can say what you want about randel el or lloyd being overpaid...but the fact remains they are on eof the best set of wr's in the nfl....the question is can brunnell get them the ball...brunnell didnt throw for 200 yards in like the last 11 gamnes of last season....yikes
-they are on eof the best set of wr's in the nfl-
my god IGY...did you pull a tube on your lunch break?
1. pry jaw open
2. release penis
3. move along
its just too hard not to comment on plain nonsense--your losing credibility by the day
Quote from: reese125 on June 28, 2006, 01:33:30 PM
its just too hard not to comment on plain nonsense--your losing credibility by the day
Hahahaha.
Quote from: ice grillin you on June 28, 2006, 01:20:26 PM
cooley is better than decent....you can say what you want about randel el or lloyd being overpaid...but the fact remains they are on eof the best set of wr's in the nfl....the question is can brunnell get them the ball...brunnell didnt throw for 200 yards in like the last 11 gamnes of last season....yikes
I am sorry but they may be one of the better receiver sets in the NFL but there is no way in hell they are ranked number #3. That depth chart is awful on Sportcenter, if they are going to count RBs and TEs the Eagles are definately better than #31. Whatever, it is pointless to rank that crap anyway.
I didn't see it, but supposedly the pass defense was ranked 15th. The taterskins got #2...
The taterskins got #2
what a joke that was
sean taylor is superman but come on...second best pass defense in the nfl??
Carlos Rogers is better than all the Eagles' corners combined. DUH.
for those upset with the eagles' rb & wr/te rankings...what teams would you move them ahead of???
seriously. our WRs suck. i think 31 is a fair assessment until they prove hey can do anything. i'm more confused about the skins being 3 than the agles being 31.
To be fair, hunt, Westbrook has a proven track record. Buck, uh, if he could stay healthy had 1 good year. Moats has 2 good runs in his rookie campaign. Parry sucks, Tapeh is a complete unknown and the other guy is an URFA.
They ranked the Jets higher at RB, but all they have is a declining Martin and average guys backing him up....
i thought they ranked teams passing games not wr's?....the running offenses not the rb's
because the eagles have a small injury prone pass catching running back as their #1 rb...and they dont run the ball anyway...so if you wanna smack them for their running offense theres no problem there
but if youre gonna do that then westbrook must count as a big positive in thier passing game and i dont think they gave them points for that
They did "pass catchers," so L.J, Schobel and Westbrook should have factored in there. I'd put them around 24 range.
The series finished with the run defense. The Eagles were ranked 24th...
Well, I guess according to the "Ultimate Depth Chart" the Eagles are destined to suck again.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on June 30, 2006, 12:27:24 AM
Well, I guess according to the "Ultimate Depth Chart" the Eagles are destined to suck again.
I was thinking the same thing when as I saw all the rankings. Accoridng to them, the Eagles will be lucky to win six games this year.
We'll see...
Tonight they're going to sum everything up and do an overall ranking. Using the 5 lists, it'll probably be something like this:
01 = Panthers
02 = Seahawks
03 = taterskins
T04 = Steelers, Patriots
06 = Ravens
07 = Colts
08 = Giants
09 = Bengals
10 = Broncos
11 = Cardinals
12 = Falcons
T13 = Cowboys, Dolphins
15 = Chargers
16 = Buccaneers
17 = Bears
18 = Chiefs
19 = Jaguars
20 = Vikings
21 = Rams
22 = Saints
23 = EAGLES
24 = Texans
25 = Browns
26 = Jets
27 = Packers
28 = Bills
29 = Titans
T30 = Raiders, Lions
32 = 49ers
I can't wait for the Skins to have a losing record this season.
god bless you my son
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 30, 2006, 10:39:56 AM
Tonight they're going to sum everything up and do an overall ranking.
i am shteinting myself in anticipation
is that some kind of kinky German maturbating technique..never heard of it
Quote from: BigEd76 on June 30, 2006, 10:39:56 AM
Tonight they're going to sum everything up and do an overall ranking. Using the 5 lists, it'll probably be something like this:
01 = Panthers
02 = Seahawks
03 = taterskins
T04 = Steelers, Patriots
06 = Ravens
07 = Colts
08 = Giants
09 = Bengals
10 = Broncos
11 = Cardinals
12 = Falcons
T13 = Cowboys, Dolphins
15 = Chargers
16 = Buccaneers
17 = Bears
18 = Chiefs
19 = Jaguars
20 = Vikings
21 = Rams
22 = Saints
23 = EAGLES
24 = Texans
25 = Browns
26 = Jets
27 = Packers
28 = Bills
29 = Titans
T30 = Raiders, Lions
32 = 49ers
yeah...they have the eagles ranked 23rd & coming in last in the nfc east.
They have the Saints ranked ahead of the Eagles. :-D Not that this matters at all, but I can't believe they think the Eagles will be that bad again. Who knows maybe they will be, but the "experts" seem to forget how many players the Eagles were missing last year.
They also have the taterskins ranked ahead of the Steelers WTF? Carolina as the number one team in football, after they got owned by Seattle last year in the playoffs, it isn't like Seattle got worse, they got better. Crap like this makes it very hard for me to watch ESPN.
They have the Bengals as the 9th best team in the NFL but missing the playoffs, while the 18th ranked Chiefs will make it....
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 01, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
They have the Bengals as the 9th best team in the NFL but missing the playoffs, while the 18th ranked Chiefs will make it....
Yeah ESPN is slowing losing its credibility.
You could tell no real research was done on this. They didn't really pay any attention to the "quieter" moves any team made, or solid, even superstar level players were returning from injury. The only thing that swayed them to say a team is improved was big name signings. The Skins, for example, made a lot of bigger moves, as usual (we've seen the results, which these talking heads always seem to forget at this time of year), and they laud them with praise and movement up these rankings. Crap.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 01, 2006, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 01, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
They have the Bengals as the 9th best team in the NFL but missing the playoffs, while the 18th ranked Chiefs will make it....
Yeah ESPN is slowing losing its credibility.
ESPN lost it's credibility years ago. Now they are simply losing what little shred of entertainment value they had left.
Quote from: Sgt PSN on July 01, 2006, 02:56:23 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 01, 2006, 02:04:51 PM
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 01, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
They have the Bengals as the 9th best team in the NFL but missing the playoffs, while the 18th ranked Chiefs will make it....
Yeah ESPN is slowing losing its credibility.
ESPN lost it's credibility years ago. Now they are simply losing what little shred of entertainment value they had left.
As true as that is... the sad part is that all the clueless sheep across the country are taking that shtein as the gospel.
Quote from: BigEd76 on July 01, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
They have the Bengals as the 9th best team in the NFL but missing the playoffs, while the 18th ranked Chiefs will make it....
their overall rankings were an aggregate of the positional rankings they did...their playoff predictions were based on how they thought teams would actually do...not on their rankings.
These ESPN guys are idiots. The taterskins should've been #1 in every category including QBs. How could you disrespect Brunell like that? I mean cmon. World class QB over there in DC. Also, Campbell is the next... well, I don't think you could use one NFL great to compare him to. I'd say he's Elway, Montana, Marino, Young, Brady all in one. Times 7.
Wow, Cowherd just said on ESPN that he likes the Eagles to win the NFC over Carolina. I think he is one of the first national media types to say that, not that it matters.
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 02, 2006, 11:02:45 AM
Wow, Cowherd just said on ESPN that he likes the Eagles to win the NFC over Carolina. I think he is one of the first national media types to say that, not that it matters.
cowherd?
Colin Cowherd.....works on ESPN Radio
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 02, 2006, 11:02:45 AM
Wow, Cowherd just said on ESPN that he likes the Eagles to win the NFC over Carolina. I think he is one of the first national media types to say that, not that it matters.
Funny he has anything positive to say about Philly since he spent about 15 minutes ripping Philly and their fans on his show a couple weeks ago.
Rendell is holding his daughter hostage. He doesn't have a choice.
Quote from: EagleFeva on July 02, 2006, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: Drunkmasterflex on July 02, 2006, 11:02:45 AM
Wow, Cowherd just said on ESPN that he likes the Eagles to win the NFC over Carolina. I think he is one of the first national media types to say that, not that it matters.
Funny he has anything positive to say about Philly since he spent about 15 minutes ripping Philly and their fans on his show a couple weeks ago.
Feva he ripped Eagles fans, not the city or the organization. If you listen to him regularly he always mentions Philly and New England as the two best run franchises. That guy is damn good with his picks FWIW.
More proof that ESPN is a fraud:
Their NFC playoffs based on the rankings:
1 Panthers
2 Seahawks
3 taterskins
4 Bears
5 Cowboys
6 Falcons
They had the taterskins beating the Falcons and the Cowboys beating the Bears.......so their divisional round matchups were Dallas/Seattle and Washington/Carolina.... :sly
They also messed up the AFC playoffs. They have the Patriots as the top AFC team but playing in the wild card round, with the 3rd-best AFC team Baltimore being the #6 seed...
1 Steelers
2 Colts
3 Patriots
4 Broncos
5 Chiefs
6 Ravens
KC over Denver, NE over Baltimore
Their divisional round winners: Carolina, Seattle, Pittsburgh, New England
I care.
Wow, Cowherd just said on ESPN that he likes the Eagles to win the NFC over Carolina. I think he is one of the first national media types to say that, not that it matters.
with the incessant whining thats beeen going on in this thread it seems like it matters quite a bit what the national media types say
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 05, 2006, 07:14:05 PM
Wow, Cowherd just said on ESPN that he likes the Eagles to win the NFC over Carolina. I think he is one of the first national media types to say that, not that it matters.
with the incessant whining thats beeen going on in this thread it seems like it matters quite a bit what the national media types say
Ahhh, you just can't get past the boner you sprung seeing the Skins ranked so high.
Yesterday they predicted a rematch of SB38....Pats/Panthers
No one is predicting a Seahawks implosion this year?
How can that be??
They lost the Super Bowl last year!!!111111111!1
...and Shaun Alexander is the Madden coverboy too. Nah....that only affects the Eagles....
They said Carolina will beat Seattle because:
A ) Kris Jenkins can't possibly get hurt in a 3rd consecutive season
B ) Keyshawn was the most underrated signing of the offseason and one of the best
C ) Seattle lost Jurevicius
i feel sorry for those guys....most of them are pretty good at what they do...its the producers at espn that come up with these inane ideas...like depth charts and superbowl predictions in june/july...
Quote from: ice grillin you on July 06, 2006, 12:46:35 PM
i feel sorry for those guys....most of them are pretty good at what they do...its the producers at espn that come up with these inane ideas...like depth charts and superbowl predictions in june/july...
Nah... that's when they're at their (relative) best. When the producers make them nothing more than the faces that talk to the people at home. It's when they're allowed to throw their worthless and biased opinions around is when the real bullshtein starts flying.
I also love how they voted the Niners as having the worst pass catchers.
Umm, Vikings or Bills anyone? Neither have a receiver the caliber or Antonio Bryant let alone Vernon Davis or Eric Johnson as TEs.